Is It Worth It To Buy A 2020 Challenger Deck? | Magic: The Gathering Product Review

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Tolarian Community College

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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 жыл бұрын
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@Evan-wv4hz
@Evan-wv4hz 4 жыл бұрын
You and Vince have really found your groove with your episodes together. I really look forward to them. The skit about the new sets was amazing.
@memorylapsedm8262
@memorylapsedm8262 4 жыл бұрын
This fact that WoTC does not put a redemption code on their products is a huge statement from them. That statement is loud and clear, and would be, "We never plan on moving to a fully digital format within the foreseeable future." Rest assured to the people out there thinking that WoTC will move all formats to a digital format, during this epidemic and seeing it as the perfect time to do so, will never happen for as long as they can remain within the physical format. The day that they start putting a redemption code on all their products is the day when they plan on moving completely to a digital format. Until they do, they are encouraging the player base to actually leave their homes when possible, and spend some time at an FNM or Pre-Release/Release Tournament. I think it is a smart move that is taking into consideration people's health. The reason for that is because of people being unhealthy and not being physically active in the information age (i.e. especially during this epidemic). A wise choice on WoTC's part. They can both, make more money doing it this way, and also help to keep their player base a little healthier.
@ph0enixr
@ph0enixr 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Professor! I'm thinking about getting a set to use as a sort of Game Night boardgame. Do you have any suggestions on changes to make to balance the four decks against each other and get them to all roughly the same power level? Thanks again!
@dreammatter1734
@dreammatter1734 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your amazing review, Professor. So I understand these decks aren’t balanced to play against each other, and if I use my Allied Fires against my brother’s Cavalcade Charge, I’ll get crushed every time; right? Or is there a chance of winning?
@rhealastname266
@rhealastname266 4 жыл бұрын
@@memorylapsedm8262 do NOT go to FNM rn. You need to be socially distant which is not possible at FNM. I repeat. Do NOT go to FNM rn. Covid-19 is too dangerous.
@biggiecheese247
@biggiecheese247 4 жыл бұрын
Many magic the gathering players ask the question: is there a better KZbin channel that reviews the worth of magic products than TCC? The answer is no. ( thanks prof for the video )
@JesseJames83
@JesseJames83 4 жыл бұрын
A+ review
@lanmaster53
@lanmaster53 4 жыл бұрын
@@JesseJames83 A-... no Arena code...
@OrionTheAussie
@OrionTheAussie 4 жыл бұрын
Uh alpha investments. Less annoying voice.
@awakengaming
@awakengaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@OrionTheAussie True, he has a less annoying voice, but a much more annoying way of presenting videos.
@tylerkister4628
@tylerkister4628 4 жыл бұрын
This made my day
@VatisInsania
@VatisInsania 4 жыл бұрын
I think the double-sided adventure tokens are unique. Don't forget, the """best part of deck building is getting upgrades""" ideology plaguing Wizards currently I think Golgari Adventure is the cheapest to upgrade? At least pre-rotation. I really like your anecdote about prices and the current global status of "the Gathering" part of Magic, and keeping the local game store as part of the MTG cycle. Great video, Professor, gonna be an "A" from me.
@malouqvastor4455
@malouqvastor4455 4 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Baker “best part is upgrades” interesting that they push that, then necessitate upgrading the most boring part of the deck: the mana base. They might have a point if I was just adding vraska, instead of overgrown tombs and temples of malady.
@Jaquan018
@Jaquan018 4 жыл бұрын
Final Adventure is possibly the deck that suffers the least from Rotation if you properly upgrade it since it revolves around the Adventure mechanic limited to Throne of Eldraine. The win conditions cards are primarily Black (the deck mostly closes games by chaining Smitten Swordsman's adventure with 2-3 clovers on board with couple knights) so going in that direction leaves you with reasonable package till Eldraine rotates out. I believe MTG Goldfish has an article about upgrading it with rotation in mind.
@ohnosmoarlulcatz
@ohnosmoarlulcatz 4 жыл бұрын
The irony is that the whole point of challenger decks is to be competitive out of the box. If it needs an upgrade, that means it fails its job doesn't it?
@Lucifer0the0morning
@Lucifer0the0morning 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohnosmoarlulcatz It's meant to be competitive at the FNM level. They aren't handing you meta lists for $30 lol
@Jaquan018
@Jaquan018 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohnosmoarlulcatz Competitive on FNM level. They're not exactly Tournament ready but you can play them at FNMs in your local game store and expect certain level of success depending on the level people there play.
@TheRealSarceus
@TheRealSarceus 4 жыл бұрын
Watch them raise the "MSRP" by $5 just for that arena code next year.
@thomasborders6882
@thomasborders6882 4 жыл бұрын
And it would be worth every dime...
@sefer-nv6cn
@sefer-nv6cn 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasborders6882 Depending on the contents it might not be. They managed to completely botch one deck out of the four and again, decreased the value of all of them this time. Who knows what will happen to the challenger decks that will be released in the future?
@Alphine_Agnitio
@Alphine_Agnitio 4 жыл бұрын
I would hate that, I refuse to play Arena(no commander means no play) so for all intents and purposes to me that would be just $5 for a blank card I'll just throw away anyway.
@Theyungcity23
@Theyungcity23 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the arena code?
@Big_Dai
@Big_Dai 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasborders6882 No.
@schrottinator
@schrottinator 4 жыл бұрын
I preordered all 4 of them at a discount from my LGS.
@aliasagnome6992
@aliasagnome6992 4 жыл бұрын
"HA, that lousy professor can't grade our products if there's a new one every week! MUAHAHAHA!" -WotC, probably
@BosoxPatsfan603
@BosoxPatsfan603 2 жыл бұрын
All they care about is money. They don't care about our wants and needs!
@Krishnath.Dragon
@Krishnath.Dragon 4 жыл бұрын
I will be perfectly honest here: I only bought the decks for singles to my commander decks and only then because it was cheaper than buying the singles and get them shipped to me.
@Guccibear100
@Guccibear100 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@Kevin-hz1rl
@Kevin-hz1rl 4 жыл бұрын
Same but for my Brawl decks
@corvus15
@corvus15 4 жыл бұрын
Odds are I will be doing that. For now I just wanted something standard legal to bring to when they're running standard events, which sadly fit into my schedule more than commander ones
4 жыл бұрын
I printed them, it didnt cost me much.
@NightfallTH
@NightfallTH 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin-hz1rl found the one Brawl player. How are you? Everything ok in your format?
@namoroke
@namoroke 4 жыл бұрын
Short answet: No, you'll be on quarantine until them rotate.
@ferdithetank7535
@ferdithetank7535 4 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@DHZ-xy5ui
@DHZ-xy5ui 4 жыл бұрын
Final Adventure is like 90% ELD
@namoroke
@namoroke 4 жыл бұрын
@@DHZ-xy5ui Know what, you won't be on quarantine until something rotates btw, it's called joke.
@DHZ-xy5ui
@DHZ-xy5ui 4 жыл бұрын
@@namoroke I think it's actually a valid concern since no one really knows for how long this will go on. So if the FNMs start again and you can use the deck for like a month you might not want to buy it. So just pointing out that most of Final Adventure won't rotate out at all :)
@namoroke
@namoroke 4 жыл бұрын
@@DHZ-xy5ui Nah, is probably extended this month but I don't think much more, bu the way, yes, I missunderstood your comment, sorry for that. 😅
@sahargaryani9879
@sahargaryani9879 4 жыл бұрын
i cant wait to see the commander precons review
@torysaccount5753
@torysaccount5753 4 жыл бұрын
Let me guess: Cool new cards, fine reprints, disappointing mana base
@milkncookie
@milkncookie 4 жыл бұрын
12:55 "and remember, stay healthy, stay strong and stay the hell away from me!" -The Professor
@RJAMiniatures
@RJAMiniatures 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do an “upgrade” series for these decks! Choosing which cards you’d take out and add to make the decks more enjoyable or competitive. 🤓
@MrLoowiz
@MrLoowiz 4 жыл бұрын
I miss playing and trading with my friends... I hope this quarantine ends soon. Thank you for the video, professor!
@LeifMaelstrom
@LeifMaelstrom 4 жыл бұрын
Remember the government cant stop you from teaching your neighbors how to play! And you can play magic without coming within 6 feet of them.
@nicholasstavash7880
@nicholasstavash7880 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from late August. It has not ended yet
@MrLoowiz
@MrLoowiz 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasstavash7880 I'm still alive, you know.
@testpatternmih
@testpatternmih 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised Prof didn't note that this is the first box design that actually functions as a newbies-deckbox. It fits perfectly the cards fully sleeved and when you take out the left-side spacer it acts as a dice holder. This was something they've been grilled on regarding the Commander packaging. So hopefully they get credit for doing really well on this one.
@joshuatylenda264
@joshuatylenda264 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Prof, this helps a lot!
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@pandaman6097
@pandaman6097 4 жыл бұрын
I think i am going to pick the mono red deck + the dark deck, i just love pre-constructed decks they save me a lot of time well and money by being ready to play out of the box! So yeah. Really love your reviews keep them up + i wish everyone good health and may all of you be safe. 🤍
@Dr.Nenjisteins
@Dr.Nenjisteins 4 жыл бұрын
Getting that red deck for my friend later. She's gonna kick my butt and I can't wait.
@amadeustd3418
@amadeustd3418 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, we get creature tokens with our decks
@tinynstrong
@tinynstrong 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly wizards of the coast dropped the ball on this perfect opportunity to do more for the community it’s pretty sad to see such a big company do something so stupid like oh I don’t know including an online code while everyone is being told to stay home
@darthsteel9333
@darthsteel9333 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably more a logistics issue. The print run was probably complete or near complete when this whole mess blew up. Trying to go back and insert codes into all of the already sealed decks would have been a nightmare that would have delayed getting these out. It's just a guess, but it's my best guess why they wouldn't do that.
@Jay16872
@Jay16872 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthsteel9333 You're completely right. People need to be more understanding of this. The cards are already extremely good value, come with a nice side board and token cards.
@Miko_of_the_North
@Miko_of_the_North 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthsteel9333 They could have printed the Arena codes when this crisis happened and gave them to the LGS'S to hand out with the purchase
@Chris-ci8vs
@Chris-ci8vs 4 жыл бұрын
@@Miko_of_the_North exactly, no excuse for their fuckery.
@alexandercrumulent271
@alexandercrumulent271 4 жыл бұрын
If they had the code, I wouldn't have cancelled my order...
@supertaft77
@supertaft77 4 жыл бұрын
I bought 3 sets of all...would open at least one of each of them had their been codes 😎
@luispolanco5966
@luispolanco5966 4 жыл бұрын
@@supertaft77 why did you buy them then? Re sale?
@supertaft77
@supertaft77 4 жыл бұрын
@@luispolanco5966 been buying cards again for the last 2 years something from every release from bundles to booster boxes and kits.
@demitriafallscon2732
@demitriafallscon2732 4 жыл бұрын
Same, so disappointing. 😟
@clovisleoncio
@clovisleoncio 4 жыл бұрын
If they had the code I would buy at least a couple of them right now
@YawgmothWasRight
@YawgmothWasRight 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I bought the mono red and the simic flash and let my friend buy the other two
@xpadseyx
@xpadseyx 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. My wife and I have been playing a bunch at home and I'll be hoping to pick a couple of these! Thanks for the video. I've only gotten into Magic over the last few months and your channel has been a great help!
@darkokoroshi5883
@darkokoroshi5883 4 жыл бұрын
to answer the Q at the end: I'm in a small play group, in a small town, 40 miles away from any other lgs. We have 6 regular players, and up to 15 gather for PR. We gave up on standard, colectively, around mid-to-late-2018, and we all got into commander, so i highly doubt anyone of us will buy these decks. Around half of us still work, even with this stay-at-home problem, so we went trough EDH discord chanel, and found "whereby" app that works nice for us. Two players have webcams, the rest of us use phones, and we improvised stands for them. While not the same, as playing in an LGS, and takes more time than a regular game, it is still better to have some fun online, than not play anything for a few months. ...the only draw-back is steal and/or copy effects are a messy thing to play when you're not playing at the same table... and i just built Sakashima the imposter on the last day before state-wide isolation, so, i won't be able to play it, at least not without headache, for a few months xD
@80budokai
@80budokai 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Enjoy your Saturday!💯😍
@das_gruuben
@das_gruuben 4 жыл бұрын
My LGS's owner didn't order them for fear of not selling them. I'm checking what his minimum order is so I might get some of the gatherers in on buying out an order for him. Prof is right, everybody. It's now more important than ever to try to support your LGS. Especially if they already struggle in a small town like ours. Stay safe and stay healthy, Prof. And DON'T PANIC.
@ginatruiolo
@ginatruiolo 4 жыл бұрын
Thankfully both of my local game stores are doing on the phone ordering and curbside pick up. Thanks for the product review!!!! Love your videos prof!!!
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, friend!
@ecpracticesquad4674
@ecpracticesquad4674 4 жыл бұрын
I play modern and even I’d be more inclined to buy these if they came with an online code. I’d love to play more mtgo, in general, if it weren’t so expensive to keep up with both paper AND online decks.
@alextye7779
@alextye7779 4 жыл бұрын
Many Magic the Gathering players ask the question: will the professor ever find a good Mono White Card?
@dom19945
@dom19945 4 жыл бұрын
Anointed Procession and Smothering Tithe.
@Krishnath.Dragon
@Krishnath.Dragon 4 жыл бұрын
Land Tax and Serra Ascendant
@luispolanco5966
@luispolanco5966 4 жыл бұрын
Teferi's Protection & Avacyn Angel Of Hope
@quinnhait3475
@quinnhait3475 4 жыл бұрын
Wrath of god and swords to plowshares
@ArmadilloAl
@ArmadilloAl 4 жыл бұрын
MTGMuddstah just spoiled a pretty spicy one this morning.
@sshim950
@sshim950 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos occasionally. Thanks for making and sharing them
@Jamesmy
@Jamesmy 4 жыл бұрын
I'm only an occasional player, but I loved the set of matches I played with my 2019 challenger deck! I love this product and I'm happy to see that it's holding up well.
@101Shifty
@101Shifty 4 жыл бұрын
Bought all 4 new, have all 12. Making it sort of MTG boardgame. It's really fun to have those, for my friends, who are long time out of tabletop/MTG altogether.
@connormurray445
@connormurray445 3 жыл бұрын
For a player who is recently got back into mtg and want to play it with some friends not comp. Which of the 4 is your favorite?
@joeysewell2394
@joeysewell2394 4 жыл бұрын
So ever since i started playing commander i stopped playing standard. I understand the need for rotation in order to keep the game going but something about it just got under my skin. I might consider the decks for commander pieces in any case. However, as always it is a pleasure to watch your analysis and i think i speak for the entire community when i say it is always appreciated. My group and i have been using cockatrice to maintain our friday nights. We had talked about getting webcams and stands to try and do paper still.
@chasehatchett4756
@chasehatchett4756 4 жыл бұрын
My LGS is Mothership Books and Games in Austin, Tx. Lauren is the owner, and a great person. They are even doing deliveries to your house in the ATX area. We all need to support our LGSes(LGS’s?) during these turbulent times.
@AceDRoses
@AceDRoses 4 жыл бұрын
Prof! Thanks for the videos at this hard time!!!
@justinaulislong3950
@justinaulislong3950 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another solid review. Professor! Always good to see you in your dapper attire.
@tjteehan721
@tjteehan721 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind word prof. We all need it in this time.
@megashrek5059
@megashrek5059 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that was quick Edit: I though tit was the Ikoria commander decks. I’m an idiot.
@adamalbano8263
@adamalbano8263 4 жыл бұрын
Giggity
@dustinlee5985
@dustinlee5985 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the commander decks to come out though
@TechnicolorMammoth
@TechnicolorMammoth 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty excited about the Ikoria commander decks too. And tits.
@derekwhidden9730
@derekwhidden9730 4 жыл бұрын
I bought Final Adventure based on a recommendation from another channel. My only means of playing is solitare. My only Internet access is an older phone and it will not run Arena. My best deck is a heavily modded Oko Plainswalker deck and just in one game I was pretty impressed with how Final Adventure performed against it. It didn't win but, that was only one game and I am still learning it.
@NextGenNative
@NextGenNative 4 жыл бұрын
Due to the current pandemic I decided to try a new hobby as a card game enthusiast I’ve decided to pick up the MTG cards I’ve always been intrigued by it. Picked up to booster boxes but I’m completely lost on how to start a build and learning to play . Love your channel subscribed and liked and looking forward to future videos :)
@graig654
@graig654 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a more close comparison. Me and my buddies wanted to buy a set of evenly matched decks. Nothing crazy expensive, and when I saw this I was excited. But that D rating breaks my heart. We just want a throwback to the times we weren’t thinking competitive and a 2/2 with no ability was okay to play without being laughed at. :) maybe we will get them from our LGS and do a $20 upgrade and see what happens.
@flynnrider119
@flynnrider119 4 жыл бұрын
Your awesome Professor. I enjoy watching your videos and thanks for supporting LGS's.
@yesac42
@yesac42 4 жыл бұрын
We'll be picking these up as usual. My wife and I are very casual players with no deck building skills so we play all the pre con challenger and commander decks against each other. Thanks for the review Prof.
@thedislikebutton3425
@thedislikebutton3425 4 жыл бұрын
Stay safe Prof. Thank you for the great videos
@danacoleman4007
@danacoleman4007 4 жыл бұрын
Just got mine in the mail and trying them out right now.
@jessemillano7995
@jessemillano7995 4 жыл бұрын
I was decided on RDW and Simic Flash for my wife and I just from the deck lists, and your grading made me more confident! Thanks calling my LGS now. =) great video as always!
@ronan3394
@ronan3394 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased the allied fires challenger, upgraded it a bit by replacing Kasmina with Dovin hand of control (he is fabulous in this deck) And replacing the life lands with temples. With only those changes I went UNDEFEATED at my standard showdown. ( please note that the country I am living in does not currently have social distancing) when upgraded allied fires is an absolute POWERHOUSE.
@carlosjavierblancochuecos3618
@carlosjavierblancochuecos3618 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Prof! I'll try to contact my LGS. I was thinking of getting these via Amazon, but, as always, you are right about the support our LGS deserve!
@Un0vaGaming
@Un0vaGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I have been out of the magic loop for several months and these had me excited to play standard as I always thought Jeskai fires seemed very cool! ... and then I realized it was banned now! That's wild.
@DSolymanH
@DSolymanH 4 жыл бұрын
I love your knowledge (or semblance of knowledge)! I just got back into Magic. My last expansion was Weatherlight.
@Teachermook
@Teachermook 4 жыл бұрын
What happened at 12:36 sold me. Your awesome prof.
@erichansen5812
@erichansen5812 4 жыл бұрын
As someone just starting in Arena it would be great to have codes. I appreciate you pointing it out repeatedly.
@trevor.mccauley
@trevor.mccauley 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to playing MTG. I bought all of these challenger packs from a local game store and been having a lot of fun playing them! So anyone else here that knows nothing about magic. These are definitely great introduction decks! Just began upgrading a few of these.
@jmg128
@jmg128 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!!! That red deck looks fun! Can't wait to play at my local store / play group again!!! Stay safe!!!
@MilkshakeSkunkette
@MilkshakeSkunkette 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for keeping the great content flowing prof
@Cairoarena
@Cairoarena 4 жыл бұрын
im heavily considering picking them up mostly because i have sleeves for cards i want to play with and i do not want to un-sleeve my other decks. thank you for the assessment Prof.
@AstroDuckMusic
@AstroDuckMusic 4 жыл бұрын
More magic videos in the middle of a pandemic XD you sir are a legend. Love you bud. Keep up the good work.
@starnik
@starnik 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you professor for reviewing these based on how well they play out of the box, rather than just on financial value. It's too bad it looks like this year of standard is cancelled, I would have loved to have tried out Final Adventure or Simic Flash.
@megaduc
@megaduc 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a review of these decks! Ive been waiting
@thunderstruck560
@thunderstruck560 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning curbside dropoff and delivery Prof. That's what my store in Denton is doing and it's keeping them going.
@gheare3
@gheare3 4 жыл бұрын
I just started Magic this week. Oddly enough, I've won the games I've used Allied Fires in. But after doing some research, I can see why you need more upgrades to the deck given the current format. Will be looking to buy the Cavalcade of Charge and Flashes of Ferocity to complete the sets.
@valiantdetector
@valiantdetector 4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of picking up Cavalcade charge.
@Lightsong001
@Lightsong001 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the allied fires deck personally
@DakonBlackblade2
@DakonBlackblade2 4 жыл бұрын
Ye it works super well, in my testing it has the highest win rate out of the 4. The manabase could´ve been better (it realy should have at least 1 more shockland and 1 Fabled Passage, it wouldn´t exceed the other decks in value) but the only thing to concearn yourself here is to have an untap land on turn 3 to play somethign, like a clarion or a Narset, and then have another untap one on 4 to play fire, after that no one cares about the mana being tapped or whatever. Also its easy and super cheap to upgrade the lifelands into temples. If you are willing to put some money into it get 4 Teferis and 2 more Kenriths, the manabase cna be the last thing you tweek its not that important in this deck, its all in the 3rd and 4th turns untap lands. I find Cavalcade Charge to be kinda meh, the lack of embercleave and the cavalcade strategy don´t realy work on current standard anymore. Its not expensive to turn it into an actual Red Deck Wins tough.
@Michael-hv5vm
@Michael-hv5vm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your work Prof!
@sandwichboy1268
@sandwichboy1268 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the when Cavalcade was in standard. I miss those days, though Embercleave is fun, too
@orangebannana7640
@orangebannana7640 3 жыл бұрын
Its 2021 and I must say the best pick here is charge, its value is about 40 bucks, meaning that if you can still find one for 30, you can also buy sleeves and a deck box all inside the value of the deck! its a great way to get started with no cost as when you sell the deck (if you sell) you can make most or all of your money back!
@DiabloMatrix968
@DiabloMatrix968 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Professor, When i tried the decks out on MTG Arena I found the same kind of play with them. The mono red deck being the best. It’s hard to play the game right now, but with the help of computers and smart phones its possible to set up a game over the net directly with friends. Stay safe Professor.
@mtg-magic-moments
@mtg-magic-moments 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Prof, I guess you missed the small bit interesting fact, that the product was cut a bit (the dice has been removed). Another argument for providing an Arena unlock code, as Wizards saved production money. Please compare those products the next time year over year for those changes. Thanks a lot & keep up the good work!
@kylemcgowan1
@kylemcgowan1 4 жыл бұрын
We think alike. I agree with the whole video. Seems like better quality cards than in years before. I will buy the complete set for the cards and upgrade all of them. I just hate how inevitably the prices will fall on just about all of the chase cards included.
@MichaelJamesAndersonActor
@MichaelJamesAndersonActor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for solid review. I'm probably going to get the middle two based on your suggestion.
@TheAlchemic1
@TheAlchemic1 4 жыл бұрын
My yearly favorite Standard product (e.g. the only Standard products that are truly worth buying). Love having 1 of each for a snapshot of what Standard was like each year at some point. Loads of fun to go back and play from 2018 Standard especially during these times!
@samp9418
@samp9418 4 жыл бұрын
Casual Player over here. Big thanks for the video, it helped me pick out which challenger decks I wanted to buy!
@Aldrnari956
@Aldrnari956 4 жыл бұрын
I grabbed a copy of flash of ferocity. Been looking forward to your review of the product, prof
@Rathial
@Rathial 4 жыл бұрын
High quality review
@johngleeman8347
@johngleeman8347 4 жыл бұрын
Looking fly as always Prof. :D
@Abarataphoto
@Abarataphoto 4 жыл бұрын
I've reached the same conclusions, more less (based on lower number of tryouts, most likely). -Red deck is strong, we all know that Cavalcade isn't the most powerfull version, metagaming wise, but it's quite easy and with low expense to make it a strong metagaming deck. As it is a Cavalcade deck the single Embercleave isn't that much of an hurt, also. -Simic deck came in second on my tests. It's also not the best Simic Flash deck, but getting it to be metagame competitive isn't that hard/expensive, and it's a fun play out of the box. -With the Golgari I struggled a bit, and I'll say it has a big way to go to get to the other 2 decks. Golgari adventures can be quite powerfull, as we've seen last season, but the complete lack of Casualties of War, The Great Henge and the single Vraska make it a weak deck, that has a low chance of success against both the other 2 better decks. It's also difficult to make it good metagaming wise atm, as Golgari adventures is a bit off the hook. And Vraska, Casualties, Midnight Reaper and Find//Finality (this last one is one which I can't really understand the inclusion) are going out with the rotation. Good note for having a couple of Castles, what a great card. -Still nothing compares with the Jeskai. Wizards decided that the good Fires of Invention was very hard to put in a product like this, because of the high amount of Mythics it needs (both Cavaliers from M20, as well as Kenrith), so they mixed it up with the Jeskai Superfriends, that is way out of the metagame cicle. Still it would be playable if it had Teferi, Shatter the Sky and a couple other inclusions (instead of Saheeli, for example), as well as Shocklands or Temples, as you mentioned. The way it is, I consider it 100% unplayable. I'd prefer a Doom Foretold Orzhov deck (!!!) instead of this. Even if I disagree with a couple of points (or I don't actually disagree but rather get more annoyed with them than you did), great video, as usual Professor! P.S. And the lack of Arena codes on every single product they release is mindblowing.
@tommullings9912
@tommullings9912 4 жыл бұрын
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@adriatoll1106
@adriatoll1106 4 жыл бұрын
Check this allied fires gameplay and maybe change your point of view kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4vXY5hrnrCefLM
@joristhejester3229
@joristhejester3229 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t the allied fires deck have temples tho
@funnygamingvidz
@funnygamingvidz 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always, professor!
@NerdAndProudOfIt
@NerdAndProudOfIt 4 жыл бұрын
ordered all 4 from my local game store in the netherlands for 100€ including delivery last week. a buddy wants to order all 4 as well and we will play against each other via zoom, aiming the camera at the cards on the table. they should arrive either today (saturday) or monday. thanks for the video! stay safe everyone!
@Brandon-ch9eo
@Brandon-ch9eo 4 жыл бұрын
I’m getting RDW and Sonic Flash from my LGS next week!
@rosehawker
@rosehawker 4 жыл бұрын
again thanks to you my wife and me are going to look into more mtg stuff. off to talk to our LGS
@johnremembers7780
@johnremembers7780 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos.. They Tutor the very young audience. The new generation of players. Keep up the good work.
@LivingDeathGuy
@LivingDeathGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I play commander almost exclusively, thanks for the tips
@tsuri7275
@tsuri7275 4 жыл бұрын
For simic flash ideas, you could go with a Vivian, Champion of the Wild/ Wilderness Reclamation Combo which could just let you play two turns. If you only play Wilderness Reclaimation with Nightpack Ambusher, you can stack the triggers so that you get them wolf token( if Nightpack wasn’t cast that turn) then get the untapped trigger and use the floating mana to play another Ambusher or a chemister’s Insight
@bububu__
@bububu__ 4 жыл бұрын
had so much fun playing final adventure in MTG Arena, I'm sad that I won't get a code for it if I buy it in paper
@therogueduelist5504
@therogueduelist5504 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Great video!
@JackieM00se
@JackieM00se 4 жыл бұрын
The way the deck box fell out at the end, “huh?” Throws box away, 😂
@NorbitZone
@NorbitZone 4 жыл бұрын
Many Tollarian Community College watchers ask: was 12:33 an accidental comedy gold, or was it scripted?
@lordvoldemort3209
@lordvoldemort3209 4 жыл бұрын
I bought all 4 Decks. Allied fires is by far the Most Powerfull Deck!
@18almason
@18almason 4 жыл бұрын
I'm only planing on buying the cavalcade to port it into a pioneer deck for local play.
@panzaggg
@panzaggg 4 жыл бұрын
i think i'll wait for commanders Deck! great info Prof!
@smittynumber1812
@smittynumber1812 4 жыл бұрын
I like that Prof calls WotC out on things instead of agreeing with everything they do
@RHKEntertainment
@RHKEntertainment 4 жыл бұрын
i was actually looking into buying one of these. thank you for your review
@williamsimkulet7832
@williamsimkulet7832 4 жыл бұрын
5:50 Vraska is not really needed for this deck. 4x Murderous Riders, however, are essential. Cut all of the non-adventure knights though; worthless.
@joshualynn9337
@joshualynn9337 4 жыл бұрын
Really interested in golgari adventures agree with you non adventure knights don't seem useful enough
@luispolanco5966
@luispolanco5966 4 жыл бұрын
Put some questing beast and rankle to go full degenrate
@williamsimkulet7832
@williamsimkulet7832 4 жыл бұрын
@@luispolanco5966 Yeah; I can see those (I run Beanstalk Giant so I can power out some crazy turns against control and/or midrange, but those are good creatures. I suppose 1x of each wouldn't hurt... but 4x Murderous Rider seems like THE card you must have, and with the most crossover appeal.
@williamsimkulet7832
@williamsimkulet7832 4 жыл бұрын
​@@joshualynn9337 I could see the argument for the 3 drop (it's wrong, but I can see it); and the 1 drop is good. But they belong elsewhere.
@luispolanco5966
@luispolanco5966 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamsimkulet7832 Murderous Rider is a sexy card, I'd max it out... chop off as many skulls as possible
@NeroVingian40
@NeroVingian40 4 жыл бұрын
I guess thanks for the kind words in the end there. These are very trying times for everyone.
@wildroseXIV
@wildroseXIV 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!! I BEEN WAITTING FOR THIS
@Danksix
@Danksix 4 жыл бұрын
I think Ill pick the three that work. I have 3 2019 decks and its quite a blast to play with my 8 and 10 year old sons.
@Bloodshade
@Bloodshade 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly haven’t bothered with MTG in a while, but still watch your videos to stay in the loop
@KAMUI138
@KAMUI138 4 жыл бұрын
I will pick up all 4 of them. I am trying to get a large group of decks that are roughly the same power lever that we as a group and just grab a deck at random and play. Sorry about any grammatical errors Professor.
@germanyjones2700
@germanyjones2700 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks prof! Hey you dang ppl make sure to check out dies to removal always a good listen, plus prof and PK preview like 30 products yet to come (prospectively that is)
@kid20777
@kid20777 4 жыл бұрын
I started playing magic in 2018 cause of challenger decks, they are a absolute blast to play casual newbie like me.
@vaselinator
@vaselinator 4 жыл бұрын
The decks seem very interesting ! I dropped out of standard a few years ago but Challenger decks always make me want to grab 1 each with a buddy and battle right on
@appleslicemtg4368
@appleslicemtg4368 4 жыл бұрын
This has been so helpful thank you so much!!!
@danlewis7707
@danlewis7707 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video Professor. Final Adventure is my favorite of the four. I play red deck wins on Arena though. Teferi makes Lucky Clover + edgewall a sad panda.
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