Is It Worth It To Charge A Non-Tesla On A Tesla Supercharger? Watch To Find Out!

[@sargemonday4801]

Thank you very much for disclosing the cost. Like you said, it's good to know you can use them in an emergency.

[@Paul-cj1wb]

Thanks for making this video. If you don't live too far away and have time to take a trip throughout upstate NY, would love to see you, or anyone else, try them all and see how they're all charging.

[@johnlodge8546]

I have a tip for you.... The DC pin cover has a slot in the top, so you can secure it to the charging port Hinged Cover so you don't have it dangling on its tether.

[@theaverageev]

Thanks!

[@BrightObsidian]

It's me again! I'm taking a stroll through your channel! This video is excellent! Now this is content that I have to watch! Keep it up :)

[@theaverageev]

Thanks again!

[@ArielBatista]

Great thanks for the heads up ☺️. I for one would love them to set up more. As it would give us more options. For now I have no need to use them. But since I am in Florida. There are some locations where the options are slim. And in an emergency it's welcomed.

[@TKevinBlanc]

It might bea long time. Tesla is rolling this out very slowly. Maybe 10 sites, mostly in up-state New York so far.

[@mattsimon931]

I have been watching a lot of these vids lately, I really liked your details and data. Seems to be a consensus that the cables are a bit short, but the app and connector work well. Tesla definitely leads the way with their charging network especially with up time and reliability. It will be very interesting to see how this works when at scale.

[@pxprimary3790]

Video was helpful. They have so few CCS charging stations, at the end of the day this is pretty useless. For example I live on the west coast (Seattle) and I wasn't able to find a single charger in the entire state... let alone Oregon or California.

[@COSolar6419]

It is a really slick system. If Tesla were to implement it throughout their network it would be a major step towards EV adoption. It’s not clear they’ll ever do that. I am not counting on it.

[@robertt1336]

Can’t wait for other states to open!

[@danje10]

Here in Las Vegas, most of the casino/hotels provide Tesla superchargers for FREE! They, of course, presumed you are going into the casino to GAMBLE and they will naturally be the big winners. I don't think most of them require any APP on your phone, you just plug your Tesla (or, with appropriate adapter) to their Tesla Superchargers and you get your charge up for FREE. (hey... at darn near 100% of all casinos in Las Vegas,.... DRINKS are FREE as long as they can see that you are making an honest effort to gamble at a slot machine or video poker or kino machine!)

[@ianvankirk8820]

Sorry if this is covered in another video (I looked and couldn't find it): What's the device/accessory that you use the monitor the charging data?

[@theaverageev]

Not a problem! I use the Veepeak BLE!!! You use these links to grab it off of Amazon! Click here to purchase the Veepeak OBDCheck BLE (The one I use!) amzn.to/3qguMdV Click here to purchase the Veepeak OBDCheck BLE+ amzn.to/42aMtJc

[@billlyl3725]

Do you have a video discussing just the reader and state you’re using ? Not what they are as I see your links to them in the comments, but the why and how you use them to their best benefit. Thanks

[@theaverageev]

Hello! I have a video showing how to connect it to A Better Route Planner. I will make a video showing how to use the reader and why it could be beneficial! Here is the ABRP video if you are interested in that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6CWqneKpJyGmLcsi=zCm6Xg0AKSg0o8Au I will try and get it up this weekend!

[@billlyl3725]

@@theaverageev thanks. Picking up my leased id4 this week. First non-ICE vehicle

[@josepinchero]

great video! thanks. as of April 2023, how many of the Tesla superchargers are fitted w/ this CCS capability?

[@theaverageev]

Thanks for watching! As of right now there are 11 sites with magic docks. They are testing them in the real world, likely collecting data, before they roll them out more. When they roll out more they are likely to start in areas that have poor charging infrastructure! Not sure what their timeline is, but knowing Tesla they won’t scale it up until they feel confident with everything.

[@flolou8496]

Wow, expensive, but could someone provide an up to date estimate, for example how much to charge say 100 miles of range on the Tesla network with a 2017 Chevy Bolt ? (is that still around 20.00 ? )

[@theaverageev]

I am working on a video about charging costs ice vs ev, Tesla vs electrify America vs evgo vs (you get it).

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

Looks like the charge cable is being stretched and has a nasty bend, these none Tesla EV's will eventualy damage the Tesla charge cables. Hopefully the Tesla super charger reliability does not drop from damaged cables. As a Tesla owner welcome to the Tesla super chargers, please don't damage them and lose our good will.

[@Pheonixdinero]

I wonder if this works for the charging stations in Texas

[@theaverageev]

There is currently only one that Non-Tesla vehicles can use in the Dallas-Fort Worth Area.

[@furloughedagain]

@@theaverageevany idea where?

[@Katleen123456789]

What is the icon image of the Car scanner pro app? I can’t find it in the Apple Store

[@theaverageev]

Here you go! apps.apple.com/us/app/car-scanner-elm-obd2/id1259933623

[@soothingrelaxingmeditation3129]

unless they open a lot of stations it's almost useless and i wouldn't use it anyway, i charge free at work, and EA 3 year free. I was at a 10 charger tesla location the other day, there were 10 cars in line and nobody at the EA chargers. Is anyone charging at their house/apt??

[@manmythmenace135]

So if the tesla supercharger does not have a magic dock, can a non tesla charge there? Are there adapters to let non teslas use the superchargers?

[@theaverageev]

That is a loaded question! Right now as of today non-Tesla vehicles can only charge at locations with the magic dock. Most major automakers have recently made deals with Tesla to gain access to the supercharger network. The first automaker to gain access is Ford and all existing ford owners will get an adapter that they can use to charge on the supercharger network. Then Tesla will gradually let more automakers on to their network. There are currently two companies that have created an adapter, but it is uncertain if they will work on the superchargers once each manufacturer is allowed onto the network. As of right now the understanding is that you will need to Get the adapter from your car’s manufacturer or from Tesla. We shall see if Tesla allows third party adapters! Hope that helps! Please let me know if you have any other questions!

[@manmythmenace135]

@theaverageev This was a big help. Thanks man.

[@Yanquetino]

Seems to me that Tesla should just sell that "Magic Dock" adapter to non--Tesla owners, and then enable any and all Superchargers to accommodate them. Even better: also sell them an extension so they can reach their charging port at any location on the car. Ah, well… if wishes were horses… I'd win the Kentucky Derby.

[@theaverageev]

I totally agree, but Tesla wants to control which chargers CCS vehicles can use.

[@Yanquetino]

@@theaverageev Which is NOT, of course, reciprocal. Teslas can plug into any DCFC with their available CCS adapter. Elon Isherwell has always been a taker, never a giver.

[@markthomas7279]

​@@theaverageevobviously. They have to service their customers. Rest are bound to get sticky seconds, I would think.

[@markthomas7279]

​@@Yanquetinothat's because Tesla enable customer service. Why have others not addressed the charging issue.

[@chriscondon7074]

What is the app you have on your phone that shows the power your charging with and all the other numbers that were showing , does it work on IOS as well ?

[@theaverageev]

The app is Car Scanner Pro. It works great on iOS!

[@4rwayner7]

What one reader do you use?

[@theaverageev]

Click here to purchase the Veepeak OBDCheck BLE amzn.to/3qguMdV Click here to purchase the Veepeak OBDCheck BLE+ amzn.to/42aMtJc

[@theaverageev]

I use the BLE. But you can also get the BLE +

[@blablabla1185]

Isn't charging at EA free? Or we are talking about things in the future?

[@theaverageev]

Yes, but not always

[@Scooter-K]

Which NY town / SP station was this filmed in?

[@theaverageev]

Hancock, NY

[@bloodycreepy]

just pay the 12 if you plan on taking a road trip just in case you need it

[@rog1046]

What app are you using for that charging data?

[@theaverageev]

Car Scanner Pro!

[@777Outrigger]

It seems that Superchargers are more reliable with VWs than VW's own system Electrify America. 😮

[@theaverageev]

Haha. Can’t argue with that…

[@thomasjacques5286]

So Tesla opens just enough stations to qualify for the Biden bucks. Genius.

[@barryw9473]

3500 will open.

[@guru2899]

Yes, Tesla will open the majority of their chargers in North Dakota, Wyoming, and Guam. Just please don't open any in NJ. Enjoy the chargers everyone....those who bought Ford, GM, Stellantis (almost choked on my phlegm) or whatever the #$%^^%% ev you bought.

[@barryw9473]

@@guru2899 I have already used the station in CA and looking forward to a lot more in highly populated areas. Glad to see Elon taking government money to improve DCFC access for CCS cars.

[@tomsekerchak2176]

95% of Tesla superchargers are active and usable. The reliability of EA chargers is not that good.

[@ultrastoat3298]

This program is dead in the water now that NACS is the standard in the US.

[@theaverageev]

Likely. This video was prior to all of the announcements. The info about charging speed is still valid though. Charging should still be limited to 350 amps for non-Tesla vehicles.

[@ultrastoat3298]

@@theaverageev the question is will vehicles with native NACS ports put them in the correct spot. It will be years and years before all the pedestals are updated to ones with longer cables.

[@theaverageev]

@@ultrastoat3298 that’s a great question. Volvo I’m and Polestar are the only ones that switched to NACS and have the port in the right place. Ford, GM, and others will have to adjust their cars.

[@mike.n.davies]

You do realise it was charging as fast as your car allows right at the start of the session? 365Vx350amps = 127kW which is ID.4 max charge rate. Just because the charger says it can do 350kW (or whatever) does not mean your car can.

[@theaverageev]

I have an 2023 ID.4 Pro from Chattanooga. It has an updated battery and BMS. It can accept 500 amps and charge up to 180kWish (I've seen as high as 192kw). You can view my charging curve video. 2021s charge at 125kW and 2022s charge at 135kW. Confusing I know, but I'm glad my car can accept 180kW. I am well aware that my car will never get 350kW. You can watch any number of my videos where I show my knowledge regarding this topic. In this video I also state that the charge is giving me all it can. Again because I saw with my OBDII that it was outputting 350 amps (Not kW). My car can accept up to 500 amps so the Tesla Charge is not outputting the full amount of amperage that my car can receive which should be 365Vx500amps=182.5kW. The Tesla chargers are limited for some reason as of right now. Might change over time.

[@COSolar6419]

@@theaverageev It looked like your battery was fairly cold so that would decrease how fast it would charge.

[@theaverageev]

@@COSolar6419 the battery was 20 degrees Celsius. Which is ideal! The supercharges only deliver 350amps. So I actually had a near perfect charge session for a supercharger. If they open it up to 500amps for CCS cars then I would get the 182-192kWs!!!

[@COSolar6419]

@@theaverageev Apparently I miss read the Carscanner information.

[@theaverageev]

@@COSolar6419 all good! No worries! I use Celsius so that can be confusing. I just find it easier to use!