Is Jeremy Corbyn's "anti-Semitism Crisis" a Smear Campaign? (Pt. 1/2)

[@trippplefive]

do you even need a question mark after that title? it's obviously a smear campaign.

[@horacetwiddlepass2714]

Joe - please show us where he "refers" that, or did you make it up?

[@deseangibir4764]

Anyone falling for Jeremy Corbyn being an anti semite is a complete fool.

[@irishamerican9205]

Desean Gibir Sadly there are many complete fools and many more who know Jeremy Corbyn isn't anti-Semitic, but are using it as a stick to beat him with!

[@jasonmaert5253]

If our neoliberal press and blairite labour politicians where not fighting Corbyn tooth and nail I would suspect Jeremy was a conman.

[@t814]

Desean Gibir My introduction to politics was the obvious lie about WMDs. So I had a poor opinion of the Labour Party. I completely lost interest in it after the revelation of the "Ed Stone" during the 2015 General Election campaign. Both Milliband and Cameron were rubbish. I didn't even bother learning about the election result. I didn't like either of the frontrunners. They were the same. So I had no idea Labour had a Leadership Election. I noticed really negative news headline after headline about a 'Jeremy Corbyn' in 2016. I wondered who this disgusting person was. Looked into he stories about him. Horrible. Looked into his history - completely different to what the news was reporting and exactly the type of politician I wanted. But I'd already been betrayed a Blair and disappointed by Brown and Milliband. Paid attention to Corbyn and the headlines for the next few months to see if he was the real thing. He is. The entire media is coordinated in their three-year smear against Corbyn. And considering many people don't investigate stories in the media themselves, I'm not surprised there are still many that believe the mainstream headlines. All that's left to do is question them on the mainstream narratives.

[@augurcybernaut4785]

Desean Gibir I guess there are good people on both sides?

[@paulshipp23]

Follow the money..... the powers that be have more than enough of it to ensure Labour don't get elected. They know no limits to the depths they will stoop to undermine anything that threatens their economic and political monopoly.

[@whzzmann99]

i have been watching corbyn for years.......i find no fault in him

[@whzzmann99]

and i aint british

[@heighwaysonthewing]

​@@whzzmann99 I am British I find not fault in him too, he wants the best for the poorest that make me proud to be British by the way.

[@t814]

Recently on Channel 4 News, there was an interview with two Jewish people as guests; one against Corbyn and one for. The man against Corbyn admitted at the end of the interview that he was weaponising antisemitism get Jeremy Corbyn out of politics and completely out of the public eye. He also criticised the programme for daring to publicly show Jews having opposing opinions.

[@kronossonork6994]

This is one excellent exceptional news outlet that puts the lamestream media to shame.

[@ingwer8918]

@therealnews: This is such an important topic and Norman Finkelstein's sober analysis is always valuable. With the audio on him so difficult to understand, is there someway you can add/insert captions for his part? The CC option does not help at all. That set aside, Aron Mate's interview, as always, is terrific. Thank you for this.

[@psychvision101]

Rita Petersen do this

[@kingnoodle8785]

i came to say this

[@hootiegabriel9200]

This fight and discord that dominates our societies will last many years and I’m not sure what the end result will be. Scary times as they seek to divide us up.

[@svendavid3374]

BBC - Being Blatantly Conservative ! Say no more.

[@JayJay-nc7pr]

The BBC conservative?!?! What parallel universe did you come from mate!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ggggg-h9s]

Many people I know think the opposite.. The BBC is too left-leaning?.

[@davedave7298]

Right wingers call it left wing, left wingers call it right wing lol

[@davelocke]

The political side of BBC is demonstrably right wing.

[@davedave7298]

BBC is not what it used to be, but in the past especially early nineties,some of their programmes were killers, watch Panorama, destroy the ADHD bullshit, which was created by a Pharmaceutical company, they made Ritalin their patented miracle cure, also watch operation Gladio, BBC 2 documentary about how CIA supported by Masons and right wingers are embedded all over Europe since the 2nd world war, you don't see stuff like this anymore.

[@davidlinney2765]

Unresolved cases of antisemitism are 1 in 7000 in the Labour Party. That is one person per each medium size city. The 'antisemism' consists of disparate social media comments. Not anti Jewish campaigns or threats. Antisemitic incidence has decreased since JC became leader of the LP

[@BabelSongs]

David Linney yes, all you say is true, I have seen the same reports. We truly live in an era of lies

[@bhasinneeta]

Both Norman Finkelstein and Jamie Stern-Weiner are excellent - clear and to the point! Unfortunately, the audio is not very good at Finkelstein's end. Perhaps he needs to get a microphone?

[@vestibulate]

What Corbyn has tried to offer, and what voters have increasingly shown themselves in agreement with, is a form of social democracy which in most respects was the norm from 1945 until the advent of Thatcherism. That this mild expression of reformist goals is completely unacceptable to Britain's rulers ought to show us where we've arrived in our neoliberal journey. As we ask ourselves, why does Israel stand at the center of this campaign against Corbyn and the Left, we should keep in mind events in that country and Israel's importance to the American Right and the national security state. As we advance ever deeper into the dystopic scenario scripted by neoliberalism, our rulers have come to understand that the previous form of representative government may not serve the needs of this new system. And the Zionist project increasingly provides what they believe is a viable, even necessary model for social control, with the construction of interdicting walls, mass campaigns against immigrants, hatred of Muslims, militarisation of policing- American cops are now Israeli-trained- resegregation on the basis of race and poverty (and what is gentrification, after all, but a spatial war on those people akin to Israel's colonisation projects), heavily controlled and censored media, great concentrations of wealth, fascist populism, constant war or the threat of war as a means of maintaining discipline and profits. All of those features are core values and practices in Israel, and they are now making their appearance at the highest level in numerous countries typically described as "democratic". For these reasons, governments around the world are adopting Israeli methods and concomitant colonial attitudes towards minorities and others regarded as unfit to enjoy the liberties guaranteed by an enlightened state. Even Israel's theft of resources such as natural gas and water have their corollary in the global drive to secure these crucial elements on behalf of corporations and aggressive North American and European states. Israel stands at the symbolic center of the struggle to maintain and expand the neoliberal order because it offers a fully worked-out model for successful authoritarian rule while preserving the facade of democracy, a model which unlike the royal system of Saudi Arabia for instance, is adaptable to Western practices and elite opinions. And as more people on the community level reject that model, forces at the top, including media, can be expected to reach for more strident forms of denunciation and repression in order to thwart what they regard as illegitimate demands for social justice and political representation. So this "antisemitism" campaign IS about Israel. But we have to ask ourselves, what is it about Israel that confers this unique, sacrosanct status? The official response points to the mass murder of Europe's Jews in the 1940s. But Israel is valued and valuable for reasons quite unrelated to the Holocaust. It performs a role today, one both symbolic and practical, in the global crackdown on freedom.

[@t814]

Tom Hall What people seem to forget or don't know is that European Jews started legally migrating to Palestine in the late 19th century. Over half a century before the Holocaust. The British military occupation of Palestine where Palestinians had their guns confiscated, subject to harassment and humiliating checkpoints and restriction in movement in their own country was opposed by British Jews who took to streets to protest against the government. While Palestinians protested in Palestine. Balfour's Declaration at the request of Lord Rothchild, the then head of the Zionist Federation, was made in 1917 and opposed by the only Jewish politician in Parliament at that time. This was decades before WWII (1939-1945). In 1948, the British military gave their military weapons and posts to the Israelis at night and left the country. The next morning, Palestinians were killed were expelled from their homes. The Nakba. Over century ago, Jews weren't brainwashed with Zionist lies about Palestinians being some sort of enemy. Today majority of Israeli Jews support, cheer and engage in the terrorism and murder of Palestinians. While Jews speaking out to protect Palestinian civilians' rights, and voices like Jeremy Corbyn, are either suppressed or their reputation smeared. The coordination across the mainstream media, regardless of national borders, is shocking.

[@shoti66]

Tom Hall bravo! Well said.

[@cameloty]

Eloquently said....www.wsws.org

[@adriansmith3427]

I do not hate Jewish people. I do however have a problem with protesters being shot by snipers. Because of this I have a problem with the government of Israel, I also have a problem with the countless other governments/dictatorships around the world, does this make me a racist toward those countries? Because if we are only allowed to condemn certain countries for committing atrocities. Are we really a free society?

[@kavabean]

Please add high quality Closed Captioning for Finkelstein's segments. The audio is very hard to understand.

[@rdpatterson2682]

Hilarious. Propaganda at its finest.

[@cameloty]

Concur....www.wsws.org

[@egrono1]

This is what neoliberal desperation looks like.

[@t814]

Mosaddegh Allende for three years straight. It's embarrassing.

[@egrono1]

TheMystery It's akin to calling nazism anti German.

[@cameloty]

Concur....www.wsws.org

[@olivierlecuyer9344]

Any friends of Finkelstein out there that could come together to get him a decent mic as a gift ?

[@Junkhead91]

And a faster internet connection. It's unwatchable.

[@nonenonee8783]

You can't criticize them; they own your country.

[@TommyTucker091]

Yes it is a smear campaign. They don't like how popular he's becoming so they must grab at straws.

[@mdkvisions]

No one is buying it

[@vdotme]

They tried anti Semitism after the coordinated resignations failed to affect his popularity - indeed it made him look better. It was clearly a plot - front benchers resigning via the press, 1 or 2 per day over a few days, rather than all telling him they don't wish to serve in his cabinet and going once and for all.

[@whoyatoya]

An Anti Semite was once used to describe those who don't like Jews .Now its uses to describe those who Jews don't like. Some might say "Where's the SS storm troopers when you really need em"

[@engineercctv4511]

Jeremy for next PM !!

[@5mnz7fg]

Both Norman Finkelstein and Jamie Stern-Weiner are worth to listen but the latter finally is a real voice of reason.

[@darinsingleton3553]

It is my considered belief that the conflation of the Netanyahu government with the entirety of the state of Israel is not only problematic in it's coherency, but dangerously misguided. Standing up for the rights of Jewish people, and for the right of the state of Israel to exist, does not meaning having to condone the current government's horrendously brutal policies. Arch-Conservatives within Israel, and Neocons throughout the world have long sought, and mostly succeeded, with conflating Likud, and their ultra-conservative, racist brethren with the existence of Israel, and to have the neoliberal forces in the UK and the US aiding in this effort is yet one more piece of proof of their moral bankruptcy, and dangerous thirst for power.

[@darinsingleton3553]

Eliseville, While it is indisputable that there are many Israelis who hold the horrendous beliefs you assert; it is also true that there are many who do not, and who actively support Palestinians, in hopes of engaging in a fruitful and peaceful coexistence. The pain and frustration in your assertions is evident, and must be honestly acknowledged. Nevertheless, to summarily exclude those who seek a peaceful resolution, and to make dismissive declarations which might feel momentarily gratifying, does little to move forward on serious, meaningful participation towards ending cyclical enmity. Simplistic binaries and blanket condemnations are the tools of demagogues and fanatics, which produce great heat, but little light. I do not try to suggest that there are easy solutions, or that there is no place for righteous anger. And I admit that things will most likely continue down a very dark road for the near future. But, ceaseless bloodshed is not a viable answer. The future depends on critical thinking as well as passion; and a kind of courage that ultimately must move beyond fury. Zero-sum attitudes, and indiscriminate vilification plays into the hands of those who would keep the current bloody status quo to preserve their power and prestige. You can choose to oblige them, and proceed with sweeping denunciations, or you can oppose their schemes by building. It will not be guaranteed of success; and it would be bone-crushingly grueling and demanding, with many defeats along the way. I truly wish I could see a less difficult road ahead. But, you are wise enough to know that is not to be the case. But, you also seem wise enough to know that it, ultimately, will be the only real, true answer.

[@kennethmarshall306]

100% right

[@chokinonashes61]

Yep, it's a smear..

[@JimBCameron]

The claims of anti-semitism would be greatly diluted if critics of Israel would stick to the words 'Israel' and 'Israeli' and drop using any variation of the terms 'Jewish' or 'Zionist'. Israel is a nation state and should only be criticised in those terms, anything else invites conflation?

[@rdpatterson2682]

Jimbo Jones sorry, Israel is the Jewish State. Western zionist controlled media brings this on themselves.

[@JimBCameron]

I rest my case.

[@rdpatterson2682]

Jimbo Jones why is the main stream media silent about the suffering of Palestinians? Why do they paint the Palestinians as terrorists? I rest my case.

[@JimBCameron]

I think you'll find that has everything to do with state influence. I refer you to my original post, but you are, again, making my point. Thanks.

[@vestibulate]

Jimbo Jones It's perfectly legitimate to name and criticise state ideology. And in this case, its name happens to be Zionism. Incidentally, the critics are not the ones who keep harping on the supposed Jewish identity of the Israeli state. It's in the country's laws and national institutions. As a matter of fact, Israeli nationality doesn't exist as a legal category there. A citizen's passport and other forms of identification list under "Nationality", Jewish or Other. It's Zionist ideology and the Zionist lobby that conflates Israel with Judaism, as does the state itself- tirelessly and stridently. So don't misdirect our attention. We're being beaten over the head with accusations of racism because we challenge the racism of Israel, and now we're being told to find a separate vocabulary and not use the very words our opponents employ to describe themselves. Talk about Apartheid.

[@tommysteel2844]

Bottom line Corbyn wont accept "criticism of Israel is antisemitic " neither should we.

[@jpfrssnv]

Manufactured crisis, we've seen this before, ignore anything on the Main Stream Media, as usual...

[@g.pmoore4293]

Most definitely .

[@davidhinkley]

Wow, that's the easiest question to answer I've ever seen: Of course! It's ridiculous and baseless and there is no evidence of it (because it's never happened ---- not even the reasonable perception of it.) done.

[@splinterbyrd]

Has there been a "rise in antisemitism?" What there has been a rise in is a new and very good news story -racism of any sort always makes a good headline. Those who are _really_ in power are never criticised

[@Kinkle_Z]

Ouch! Norman - that's quite a SUNBURN! Be careful....we need you.

[@Johanreistad]

It is all about privatization has nothing to do with Jews.

[@t814]

Johan Reistad Jews are treated as metaphorical human shield from though. The Zionist, the politicians and everyone taking part in this smear don't care about the consequences it has for Jews.

[@meofamily4]

In the United States, the cries of "anti-Semitism" raised against the foreign policy scholars Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, when they published a balanced, well-documented study of the impact of the Israeli lobby on American foreign policy back in 2007 produced a backlash, to the extent that the entire charge of anti-Semitism has lost its potency in U.S. political circles, due to its overuse.

[@whzzmann99]

i like norman.....he gets pissed off every once and a while too

[@whzzmann99]

hash tag......#.normal norman

[@heighwaysonthewing]

it was a smear when Jermyn left as leader from the next day to this not one claim of anti semitic behaviour from being infested with it, to zero in 24 hours that's a great job you did there Keir do me a favour.

[@amania9254]

Jeremy Corban is a good honest man, he will do great!

[@Nine-Signs]

Jamie wss honest, nervous, and rather cute.

[@ronnie12398]

This definitely isn't "the real news".

[@jordanallen3078]

I hope that was a rhetorical question. Because of course it is. UK neoliberals are no different from US neoliberals.

[@solokom]

You know a demonstration is not artificial when pre-manufactured, professionally printed signs are given out to everyone. LOL

[@adrianreyes1877]

Yes

[@codyedwards5827]

NORMAAAAAAAAN

[@gfy8729]

NO it's a fact get used to it then put it right.......some hope of that.

[@pambromley7481]

Refreshingly clear and honest account from across the pond of the root cause of the AS nonsense in the British LP.

[@japagowtrio8008]

Anti Israel and anti semitism have to be two separate things...if not then we are looking at something sinister.

[@chrisknightmp]

Recommend watching this at +0.5 speed!

[@smalfie1214]

I am beginning to worry for the likes of Sanders and Corbyn, the verbal and written attacks on the latter have been so intense that I do feel fearful now for his mortal safety. I just wonder if it will be a case of stop him at all costs. Politics today has got real real bad! It seems the really decent individuals are targeted.

[@zahrans]

*Yes.* Next question please...

[@squeeth2895]

Norm's connexion was a bit rough, was the sound engineer down the pub?

[@betterthantelly2993]

This comment thread gives me hope.

[@petergreen2552]

Stick it to the little creep. A Corbyn lead Government would be good for the ordinary people,Jew and Gentile.

[@BabelSongs]

Peter Green who is the little creep?

[@stevenpaulgoulding]

Corbyn will wave a white flag at Putin.

[@deedee8568]

Short answer: Yes.

[@inmyopinion651]

Disagreeing with the geo political country of Israel on some of the policies they have does not make one antisemite or a bigot. They have done a good job though at trying to change the definition.

[@johnmorgan5495]

What a shame you couldnt have sorted out Norman Finkelsteins sound before you started !

[@bonniedrasco8166]

I stand with Corbyn

[@pippipster6767]

No.

[@pics8619]

Supporting Labour is disgusting, this isn't the old Labour, far right parties should be barred in parliament by law, although I do not agree at all with Israel in how they have treated palastinians.

[@BabelSongs]

pics not sure I understand your point here

[@pics8619]

Bay Whitaker meaning I'm disgusted with corbyn in general, and I disagree with Isreal towards palastinians.

[@alexwheaton1736]

I think I've got a bit of a man crush on Jeremy Corbyn

[@mjay6566]

Jesus Christ! Now they're going after Jeremy

[@MikeTSager]

This KZbin is supposed to be about the Palestinian position. What is interesting about the comments is how little the comments are about them and how much they are about israel. It shows that support for Palestinians is primarily driven by hatred of a Jewish State rather than any concern for Palestinians.

[@curtisking5138]

The issue is not "about the Palestinian position"! It us about the "smear campaign against Corbyn"!

[@BabelSongs]

Terrible sound on the interview with the man in the green shirt, can't hear what he's saying, can we get a transcript?

[@g.pmoore4293]

A smear it is

[@erlich85]

i couldnt hear anything. upgrade your video and audio quality Iran.

[@whzzmann99]

real news knows.......if baltimore ever goes to war.......we quit asking anymore

[@kevinpitt2203]

This is not live. Was it so totally impossible to get the sound sorted out. It seems as if he is having feedback problems because he is not using headphones. Just incompetent.

[@leadfarmer9396]

This is why good people cant get into poltics

[@andrewwright9378]

YES

[@soudeuseeusoudomal1394]

Short answer: Yeah, duh

[@tedvothjr.2426]

DAMN fools!

[@duckchaserssssss]

@ man at 1:09: Indeed, I don't know if the Nazi's used white phosphorus on unarmed, protesting civilians though.

[@roadend78]

Corbyn will get my vote in Tory foodbank uk - 2018 .

[@paulbrendan8034]

It is But...alot of the labour party are racist and not just anti Semitic. Diane abbot for one. They run now on identity politics. It's weired what's going

[@williambehan1344]

BS.

[@xMI55IONx]

The audio guys, come on!

[@prinzbeutaux8169]

by default corbyn cannot be 'anti-semetic'as palestinians are also semities . .

[@hashkeeper]

lots of hired payed actors, as usual

[@imperiald3864]

how can u call this the real news. If it was real news you'd have 2 guest one from each side of the debate and have them talk. Having 2 guys on the same side parrot eachother isn't news it's propganada

[@Useaname]

This video is very anti semetic. You'll be telling me next that Palestine is a country.

[@keegan773]

It wasn't Jeremy laying wreaths on the Munich murderers graves. It must have been someone else who looks like Wurlzil Gummage.

[@ttrons2]

It seems hopeless for the socalled progressive movement.

[@t814]

Tom Martin Not really. Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party received 40% of the votes in the 2017 General Election. The right wing party in government received 41%. Corbyn's Labour Party gained the most seats and gained overall in the 2018 Local Election. The right wing party in government lost seats overall. Corbyn's Labour Party now has the biggest party membership in the whole of Europe at nearly a million. The right wing party in government's party membership has dwindled so much, it no longer publishes this data. The last time it was published, the number was around third party figures. However, the members themselves tend be multimillionaires so funding isn't an issue.

[@offmyface1]

Ffs get a mike Cheapenstein.

[@mikehunt8572]

🤔

[@davejlboy4505]

Of course !!!

[@AlexRubner]

This is hilarious - no mention of Jeremy being mates with holocaust deniers? Laying wreaths at the graves of terrorists? 🙈

[@Irishtradchannel]

or the Labour Cllr called out during the week calling for the murder of Jews, the Labour Policy Comm member who was ranting about Jew money buying and corrupting people.