Is Joker Folie a Deux a Secret Prank on Warner Brothers? (Based Theory)

[@DarranKern]

I meant Matrix “Resurrections” sorry, the fourth movie, when I was making that analogy. Sorry. Man those titles are bad

[@GreyKnight7777]

Here's the real story: The King of Comedy didn't have a sequel, so Todd Philips had no idea what to do. He didn't pull a Gremlins 2. He's not that clever.

[@Nova-fh2et]

Ever hear of New York, New York?

[@GreyKnight7777]

@@Nova-fh2et lol okay. Maybe he had a blueprint after all.

[@genzen6129]

They could have just made a bad movie without humiliating The Joker if your theory was correct. Obviously malice to character imo

[@FeederOfSeeds]

Joker - Sneedie a Cheux

[@Valeska2k]

The "joker" is a MKULTRA project ( financed by Wayne enterprise)."project PAL?" Arthur was a candidate to become "the joker"... Via Arthur's mom.( Trauma based mk) .... Lee (Gaga) is tasked to bring the joker out of Arthur. She lies to him , uses love as a weapon. Music scenes are cues for Arthur to become this agent of CHAOS.... He rejects the joker mask and ends up getting canned... Another "PAL" takes up the joker mask... (Order out of agent of chaos) * Wayne family created skull and bones

[@perrybb2]

Judging by the Game of Thrones poster in the back, it seems like you're used to seeing great series go down in history with some of the worst follow-ups imaginable. Our children will never forgive us for these artistic crimes

[@DarranKern]

@@perrybb2 lol true

[@JoeyJ0J0]

Lady Gaga's character seems to be a black pilled characterization of a woman.

[@DarranKern]

@@JoeyJ0J0 right? She’s like this starfucker e-girl type. Far from a Margot Robbie interpretation, thats for sure

[@culturewarrior2012]

Not sure I agree but I like your style.

[@cruciallll]

theres no way the road trip, borat, hangover and joker creator didnt do this on purpose lmfao kek

[@KillDozer44]

bruh its just a shit woke movie it aint that deep. Pheonix himself is a global warming goof

[@DarranKern]

@@KillDozer44 yes Joaquin is insane. A vegan, too

[@KillDozer44]

@@DarranKern yep lol

[@EndofTimeGaming-m9s]

yeah no conspiracies here lol, just hollywood churning out another horrible film, just like the first one btw

[@guner9824]

Todd Phillips pull The Matrix Resurrections Prank on Warner Brothers.

[@cris46531]

Joker 2: Filet oh dooo 😂

[@PolishTamales]

You need a phone stand. Was getting vertigo from just seeing piercing B/W with shaky cam.

[@tosweetdelight]

My problem with Matrix Resurrections and - if true - Joker 2 is that as a filmmaker, if you agree to make a film, then you also have an obligation to the audience. And audiences are sick and tired of seeing 'creatives' using TV shows, films, books, comics, games, whatever to rant about x, y, or z. If you want to sabotage a project for personal reasons, then you're not the person who needs to bring that project to life - let someone else do it, and protest in a different way that doesn't poop on the existing fans, too. Either way, yeah - I hope it does poorly at the box office, and people need to stop paying to see this garbage.

[@RawOlympia]

The Warner Brothers were two brothers who drew nasty cartoons to foment World War 2

[@srahman8124]

The real joke is the audience. i support ur theory

[@thefancasthub6862]

It looks like another typically bad superhero film. Adult men should study history and theology instead.

[@elhombredelsaco3995]

It’s definitely not a superhero movie but it is bad

[@Br1cht]

Sounds like cope tbh but you’re correct, a W is a W.

[@DarranKern]

@@Br1cht it might be cope. I dunno.

[@DealwithitHand]

​@@DarranKern Nah, be mad. Black Velma is some racist wokie BS. Go tf off. This outrage is why everything is slowly going back to normal.

[@MrTidx90]

He Pulled a Lana Wachowski! 😂

[@DarranKern]

@@MrTidx90 I’d like to think so, anyway.

[@jamad-y7m]

I think you’re right. Also the fake fear and gaslighting surrounding the first film was marketing. They planned it. What’s more effective than painting your movie as a “dangerous” film?

[@DarranKern]

@@jamad-y7m i dunno about the gaslighting being intended as marketing, but it did have that effect

[@o27001]

Very based theory. This whole scenario around Folie a Deux reminds me of this 1976 film called Network (Which Todd also used as inspiration for the first Joker). The MC Howard Beale starts off by going absolute nuts on Television with extremely relatable rants that the public starts getting behind but then eventually *spoiler alert* . . . . . . . . . . . . the parent company of his TV network suddenly clamps down on him and sways Howard towards their cause resulting in his latest rants being extremely depressing and demoralizing (Exactly like Joker 2 which I found to be extremely depressing to watch). Ultimately resulting in the TV network literally assassinating Howard on live TV (Kinda similar to how Todd just announced that he's done with DC after burning a big bridge with them). Quite ironic

[@juggernaut316]

there is one quote in the movie that makes me agree with you. "Give the people what they want."

[@anthonylakich1727]

Look what we have here ...a 2008 style ...not woke ..youtube Review of Movies.... i see at least you and ROTS ...used a spoon to dig out of KZbin Jail... Good so i have subbed.... And Yes we your right your right...i'd say almost the same stuff... i don't talk about movies much these Days... But Movies and Video Games are Crap these days SO Flush it...and give the Monster Squad and Goonies...

[@DJJunkfoodJay]

Hollywood is my B. I do ALL the effing.

[@carlosr1176]

It undoes the character and any love for him so that movie does not inspire anyone. There will be no more movies where a talking head get what he freaking deserves. They could have made any sequel to continue the character or even change him to be more like the comic. That was the directive by the studio undo the character so if there was to be a joke on the studio, it was AFTER that mandate was made, making it a musical could be part of that. But the part they will never tell us is that the deconstruction of the character is the reason this movie was made. To make it hated by those who watch it could be the inside joke.

[@DarranKern]

@@carlosr1176 thats the most obvious possible answer. This video is just about another theory going around. Either way, F Warner Bros

[@Domingo95x]

When it comes to beloved IP purchases by major studios, Phillips is aware that the industry prefers the hate-watch number as it out-performs the average and subsequently generates FREE publicity over the internet via the cynical nerd who just couldn't help himself. "i just got home from the theater to tell you how bad this movie was"

[@jeremygross992]

Great, honest review

[@applejones1697]

Hey I really appreciate you staying so based in ur video. I get really sad seeing some of my fav creators go soft.

[@DarranKern]

@@applejones1697 Im not trying to earn a living here. I just post whatever I want to.

[@AntonSlavik]

This is the first I'm hearing there was a sequel, and I went to see the first in theatres 4 times. I don't often go to the theatre, so the movie struck deep with me. By the sounds of it, you're absolutely right, or maybe we've all been trolled. I can't speak for others, but when I soul search I've decided I liked Phoenix' Joker character himself for a variety of reasons. In his own weird way he stood his ground and also redeemed himself - he was human. There's also something to be said for a person who gets broken by society and instead of imploding and destroying themselves, they push that energy back outward at society's idols and institutions. That didn't come across to me as incel at all - an incel shoots innocent people after having lost all of humanity. Joker had humanity.

[@DarranKern]

Oh his victims were not innocent. Thats also somewhat sympathetic as well.

[@AntonSlavik]

@@DarranKern but to be fair, that's not a hard one to pull off. Having your anti-hero kill bad guys to make him/her sympathetic is done to death now. Worked for some people with that d!ckhead character in The Boys 🤣

[@onithedemonslayer3142]

When I seen lady ga ga was in it I was like I'm out I'm not watching this I can't stand lady gaga.

[@yawns3004]

The Batman 2022 > Joker 1

[@DarranKern]

@@yawns3004 eh, disagree. 2022 batman is a pile of shit

[@ChrisR-f5r]

Batman 2022 was awesome. Not the best Batman movie, but probably 4th best one.

[@DarranKern]

@@ChrisR-f5r lol why. Just because of the iceberg lounge scene? The movie is fcking THREE HOURS LONG

[@67maxfield]

@@DarranKern dude it was awesome. flawed for sure but the heart and soul of it is on point and shines through, at least as far as my subjective slack goes.

[@DarranKern]

@@67maxfield what does “heart and soul” even mean? The heart and soul of journaling and taking bombs to the face?

[@67maxfield]

@@DarranKern lol. well, yeah, those two things could actually be examples of said 'heart and soul'. the heart and soul being that they got batman/bruce/gotham so right. for me atleast. and i love batman comics, from old to new. so like the journaling is a great new spin on what makes bruce bruce. it highlights his obsession and how he lives in his own little world. it also serves as a way for him to narrate, which gives off a great detective/noir atmosphere, which is of course another core tenet of batman. i know it adds to the whole 'emo' gripe a lot of people had, but i actually love emo batman. at least in the context of a young version, still driven mostly by anger, revenge, etc. young batman is the quintessential melancholic loner. i'm also pretty sure him journaling has been done before in the comics, so. in any case, its a perfect fit and feels right. the bomb to the face thing also felt very right for me. again, he's obsessed af. not only with being batman/solving crime in general, but also now obsessed with getting to the bottom of this specific case. he'll stop at nothing, and he wants to squeeze every last bit of info out of colson that he can. and with that, he's also not even really paying attention to the timer. it really captures that sense of obsession for me. like when you can't let something go no matter what. he also wants to save colson, and can only do so if colson gives the name. but ultimately, i dont think its logical, like in the movie universe itself/with the character. the obsession isn't logical. i also feel theres an empathy there too. like at a certain point, bruce knows its too late/he cant save him, so hes almost willing to die with him. which fits this bruce also, as he conveys often, even verbally, that hes basically got a death wish. but yeah. he sees colson refusing to jeopardize his family, and i think it registers deeply with bruce, and he wont leave him. something like that. i know its like a split second thing, and some of this is reading too deep. but i'm mainly making the point that it all works effortlessly for who batman is to me, on as many levels as i can conjure up. so yeah, somea thats def just my head cannon. but also, just tackin this on, he does shield his face at the last second lol. so theres that. edit: very lastly, how can you not love the dynamics of that scene?! lol. watching it again. you got the riddler maniacally counting down. and the desperate back and forth of batman and colson's whispery shouts. its so cool and noir feeling to me. "people are watching." "what people!?" "so much bigger than you could ever imagine, its the whole system!" then that countdown, which does catch bruce up to speed, but he doesn't seem to snap back to reality until the last second. so again, i think my above logic can be inserted throughout that scene. specifically during the above exchange. and then the shot of colson saying "god have mercy on me", during which bruce is just seemingly staring at him. so yeah, i think he's captivated by the implications of what colson has just shared, dying to know more, and perhaps as i also said, maybe empathizing with him.

[@DarranKern]

@@67maxfield most of what I truly despise about ‘22 is the writing. Its such a hot mess of conflicting ideas, about six subplots, a particularly snippy catwoman, the cops just basically doing 75% of the work and waffling rapidly between being friends and enemies with batman, the riddler incel cult plotline coming basically out of nowhere just to have a setpiece about 45 minutes after the main plot was already over. So much dorky dialogue that should have been edited out to give riddler plot and Alfred subplot more time to breathe. I could EASILY cut Batman ‘22 into a 1hour 55 minutes film that’s actually coherent, instead of a three hour homunculus of crap. Its got Colin Ferrel, Robert Pattinson, Jeremy Irons, John Turturro, and Paul Dano and they STILL fucked it up.

[@PapaJajo213]

batman forever being better than the batman 2022? idk about that one bud 😭

[@BarrickMacready]

I believe you are 100% right. There's so much to say about this situation I'm still trying to figure it out but I need to rewatch it with clear audio ( 🏴‍☠️) Todd "Based" Phillips Based review/take And Batman Forever is my favorite Batman movie. If you think about it, they ended the movie the best way possible.

[@middlemanAD]

If Todd did this then good for him, fuck the suits who keep ruining i.p., but it may not bode well for his career.

[@Illsky9]

I took my daughter to go see Joker 2 today. Honestly, I didn't even know it had even been made. We went to go see something else, but it wasn't playing so we decided to watch Joker. I couldn't believe how awful that movie was going to be. I can never regain those 2 hrs. of my life back. The first one was great, I really enjoyed it. But my god this movie was a giant pile of horse sh!t

[@Scrattah]

I thought after the first one they were gonna show how he became the joker that fights batman like why does it all have to become political garbage.

[@Gametester110-qf8vs]

WORST sequel of ALL time!

[@DarranKern]

@@Gametester110-qf8vs american psycho 2 still has that on lock lol

[@Titantitan001]

Its really not that bad. From what ive seen. Will watch it whenever I get a chance but I’ve heard multiple people that I trust and are based said it was at least a good musical

[@DarranKern]

@@Titantitan001 yeah I haven’t heard that

[@dbwatchet7292]

The movie is artistic hubris gone wrong. You give Phillips to much credit. Hes not the clever. Hes just bad.

[@screenPhiles]

I don't buy that. Reason being, whomever directed the Joker sequel (I don't recall his name at the moment) could have easily just walked. He didn't because Warner Bros likely gave him significantly more money to do it. Also don't necessarily agree with your point about The Matrix Reloaded because that implies that it's a bad movie. It isn't. Sure, it's up its own arse but so was the original but the pretentiousness was less noticeable because of all the new visual effects on display.

[@DarranKern]

@@screenPhiles i meant to say “Ressurections” every time I said revolutions lol. And its not a knock on Reloaded to say it probably shouldn’t have been made. Matrix 1 is a self contained movie, really

[@screenPhiles]

@@DarranKern While I agree 'Resurrections' isn't great I suspect it's not for the same reasons that you might. An important thing 'Resurrections' needed to do, which it didn't, was recast Keanu Reeves (casting him was a sure sign the filmmaker was looking to tread the same old ground) and maybe, just maybe show him if he happened to be in front of a mirror (because that aspect was one of the more interesting things about the movie). But to be fair that movie also was put on HBOMax concurrently with a theatrical run, which likely cost millions in lost profit - After all, why go to the theater when it's literally streaming at the same time. (and in fact Village Roadshow Pictures sued Warner Bros. exactly for that reason though I don't know how that suit fared). Another thing about that movie is that it apparently cost $190 million to produce, which leads to the question who pocketed the brunt of that money because it definitely wasn't on screen. Remember the return of the Merovingian? Remember the fight choreography? I'm not saying that I could do better it was a far cry from the prior movies in the series. As far as the message goes, I don't think Warner Bros cared. Sure, it was to an extent anti-corporate and played with the idea that they were only doing it because the higher-ups wanted a sequel but that doesn't matter because it's paying lip service to defiance, to anti-corporatism. And besides, the 'higher-ups' ALWAYS want a sequel to a successful property. Hardly an earth-shattering revelation these days. If Lana Wachowski really wanted to show corporate what's what she could/would have walked. Instead she just played their game and whinged a little. Hardly the stuff revolutions are made of.

[@DarranKern]

@@screenPhiles contractual obligations. You wrote all that without even thinking of things like that. Thats the kind of place Hollywood is in, pure selfish chaos. The studios (and the dudes that run the studios) are so poisonous that even the most derranged frauds like the wachowskis are crashing out and pulling shenanigans

[@screenPhiles]

@@DarranKern How do know what I'm thinking? You only know what I typed and have no idea what I was thinking. That being said, how does contractual obligations - which you have no idea is actually true, by the way - change anything?

[@DarranKern]

@@screenPhiles i do know its true, stop making shit up, it’s embarrassing

[@kingcurmudgeon8685]

Agree on Batman 2022 being overrated as can be. I was falling asleep throughout.

[@Facepalm-Guy]

Niga, you're also part of the reason outcasts resonated with the first film. How much you belittle and shit on already outcasts and how much society pushes them further until one of them snaps. You ever thought about that?

[@DarranKern]

@@Facepalm-Guy boohoo

[@TonyG8992]

Batman V Superman was actually dope af, you full of doo doo bruh.

[@verdifine]

the dark knight rises is the single worst comic book movie ever. birds of prey might be a pile of turds, but the dark knight rises dang thats bad.

[@Sumkneegrow]

It's only bad in the second half when Bane gets sidelined and cucked by Talia Al-Ghoul.

[@verdifine]

I could give you 20 reasons: from the sloppy opening to the escape to why this movie wasted all that time so catwoman could save him to even thinking about killing an iconic character. Why'd he retire: because of Rachel? Movie had so many missed opportunities. Worst part it was watchable, but when you pull back that onion, Nolan played us all

[@Sumkneegrow]

@verdifine Get out of Nolan's colon. Ledger stood him up so he had to make do and put together a different narrative.

[@DarranKern]

@@verdifine you’re so right, Rises is such trash

[@verdifine]

@@Sumkneegrow would seem you're in the colon if you defend that thing. he should have scrapped it.

[@BobJenkins-ez1jl]

This conspiracy would only work if todd Philips was contractualy obligated to make a sequel in the first made money. Do we know for a fact that he signed itwo picture deal? If he didn't that wouldn't stop the studio from going forward with a new director.