Is Lebron James better than Michael Jordan?

Piston bitterness here, but LBJ is closing the gap. Jordan was the finest athlete, toughest competitor and winner i personally ever saw. i loathed what he did to my Cavs but respected him all the same.

[@trentf4891]

Jordan is #1 in every major efficiency category of all time in regular season and playoffs. How are people arguing this still? Lebron's efficiency will only decline as he ages.

[@ieatfooddrinkwaterandbreat7137]

Aged poorly

[@KingEDZKY]

Whereas if Jordan played the seasons that he missed his efficiency will decline too, lol. Btw, LeBron's efficiency in the regular season is yes, declining but just a little, on the other hand in the playoffs it's still rising.

[@sean70729]

I thought SCORING at will was the surest sign of dominance now they say assists smh.

[@joeldriver5356]

Jordan is the greatest scorer in NBA history (30.1 points per game is the highest scoring average and that includes the last 2 years he played well past his prime) and arguably the best defensive shooting guard to ever play the game (1st team all defense 9 times and also won POY in 1988). In the playoffs he was even better averaging 33.4 points and in clutch time he was the best to ever play the game. What truly sets him apart from Lebron is that he never choked in big moments in the playoffs and his defense. Lebron is a good defender but not even close to the level Jordan was game in and game out. That's what people truly miss when they compare the two because it's a two way sport.

[@liberalssuck3155]

6 for 6 in finals,spoke clearly,wasn't covered in tattoos..James couldn't be a scab on Jordans nuts.

[@RealMrGreenTeaLatte]

Pick the bigger guy,.. Ask them how well that turned out for Portland and Sam Bowie.

[@rimofheaven]

Michael Jordan caught the NBA at a time when athleticism was about to be redefined. Many players still dribbled with one hand, or shot the ball with one hand. Michael was like a god compared to so many - we had never seen anyone like him before. He was incredible, and though I was never a Jordan fan, I really took notice of his absence when he left momentarily after the death of his father. Suddenly the NBA's best players and teams looked mediocre. I hated Jordan, but I was so happy for his return because I was ready to appreciate his greatness. I actually missed him. However, it should be noted that Michael won championships because he had great players and arguably the league's greates coach ever on his side. Before the pieces came together for him his talent alone was not enough to even get to the finals. Also, when he did leave for that one season, the Bulls went all the way to the second round without him. Lebron has also redefined athleticism in the NBA: He is a beast with speed, power, and grace. He can guard every position on the floor for 48 minutes. Michael had moments when he made each position on the floor look silly defensively, but Lebron has the staying power and athletic talent to do so for an entire series, let alone a game or a moment. People speak of Michael as if he never knew failure, but he knew plenty of it before making it to the finals. Lebron has known plenty of failure as well. However, his talent was actually enough to carry mediocre teams deep into the playoffs and eventually into the finals (therefore his failures took place on a grander stage); Jordan's was not. Think about it. When Jordan left the Bulls the first time, they made it to the big dance (playoffs). When Lebron left Cleveland, they didn't even make the playoffs. What happened to the Heat when Lebron left? They ceased to be contenders, while the Cleveland team he rejoined became an instant favorite to win the east. What this says is that Michael did not do it alone, and Lebron does more with less. It also speaks volumes of Lebron's qualities as a leader and ability to make those around him better. The Heat team he played for had a horrible coach, a less than dominant center who always seemed to be trying to define himself, and an off guard in Wade who's ego was too big to admit that it was Lebron's team and not his. Michael went 6-0 in the finals. This is what most experts and fans alike point to when they see Michael's legacy looking in it's rear view mirror at a gaining Lebron James. This logic is deeply flawed. How many great players - who paved the way for today's players - never won titles? It is not about rings. It is about the player's heart, soul, talent, will, and the moments they give and leave us with. Let me ask you this: Is Floyd Mayweather greater than Ali simply because his record is spotless? Of course not. Part of being a champion is to get knocked down and to get back up. That's why Ali is "The Greatest." Lebron is proving himself to be more like Ali all the time. True, he is polarizing: hating him has become akin to the feelings of Confederates upon witnessing Yankees take over Georgia. But hey, those Yankees won the war. He has never left the game, so we cannot appreciate him in his absence yet, so unfortunately it may be a while before he is truly appreciated and his greatness is truly recognized.

[@sean70729]

you mean as the media outlets were about to evolve surely you didn't mean to say there were no athletes back then Clyde drexler Kenny walker Dominique Wilkins Shawn Kemp Harold minor David benoit Larry Johnson David robinson akeem olajuwon Tim Hathaway Grant hill James worthy penny hardaway Charles Barkley Karl Malone shaq sure there were no athletes in Jordan's era.SMDH

[@rimofheaven]

No, I said what I meant. All those players you named wore pieces of the evolution - they were the next generation - but Michael wore the whole suit of armor; he was the culmination, just as Lebron is today. Someday there will be someone else, maybe a woman. Who knows?

[@Kahwuwiqhfhkgehi29260]

The game has changed, it was played more inside out than outside in like now. Skill sets change to the way the game is being played. Lebron would be great in any ear with his IQ and athleticism....would just be used differently depending on the era.

[@sean70729]

peter rimofheaven I call bullshit on that guys like Baylor drexler Wilkins Joe bean Bryant literally invented the athletic game and they all preceded Jordan he just took it to another level even with hand checking rules and no def. 3 seconds 30 ppg didn't gaurantee a SCORING title I can count on one hand how many players averaged 30 since 2000 mj did it for a career SCORING aggresively when most needed like Irving in the finals.

[@nunyabusiness7927]

I honestly don't think it's possible to be better than Michael Jordan. The best anyone can hope for is to be as good as MJ was.

[@mattb3910]

who would you rather play with? LBJ. Who would you rather play with if you want to win a championship=MJ.

[@JuniorLewingKoo]

Lebron in this era. Jordan was the marquee player in the 90s. The game overall has evolved and is overall much, much better than the 90s. Lebron all day.

[@mattb3910]

Junior Lewing Koo I strongly disagree and question whether you know what you are talking about. #1-the game hasn't evolved...the quality of play has lessened if anything. The basic fundamentals of the game have decreased and have been replaced with either A) athletic players who can't shoot, pass, dribble, to save their life (there are some but they are the exception rather than the rule). B) It's all iso and jack 3's. You can't tell me the triangle offense the bulls ran, and the quality in which they ran it, wasn't superior to any offense run today. C) Defense...let's not even go there. #2-Rule changes. Rule changes have been put in place in today's game limiting the defensive players ability to actually play defense (if they even make the attempt). Zone defenses+all the 3 point shots taken (there are more "good shooters these days, I agree), and the less physical play/tick tacky fouls that are called give all the advantage to the offensive player. No handchecking, all the fricken flopping (it happened in the 80's/90's but not to this degree), and all the carrying/traveling no-calls is down right ridiculous. #3-if you put Jordan in today's era, he would legit average 40+ (probably more) per game on 55+ FG%. Look what he did to guys like Artest, Garnett, Pierce etc etc when he was 38+ years old. #4-MJ was a "marquee" player since his rookie year. Everyone thinks of MJ after he started winning championships....was pushing 30 and was 35 when he won his last champtionship.

[@jasonthomad2322]

Mr. Junior Lewing Koo game is nowhere near as good now sorry for the kids that missed those years and magic and bird

[@JoshDavis1016]

Lol at the idea that the game is better today, look up Jordan at almost 40 vs KG in his prime. That will show you all you need to know about the difference between the 90s and now. The younger generation doesn’t understand that fundamentally solid basketball, strong defense, and a high basketball iq, will beat athleticism all day. Jordan in his prime would dominate today’s game more than he did in the 90s. With today’s rules he would average 40, he averaged 37 one year as it is with the old rules and teams playing very tough defense.

[@bradymichel6762]

Jordan also lost to the Pistons with Scottie Pippen so that's a blatant lie

[@mattb3910]

When Pip was a rook/still developing as a real player in the NBA. And the pistons were one of the best teams of all time.

[@jonathanhill7819]

when you let a boxing analyst talk other sports SMH

[@izzylagi9247]

MJ is the GOAT hands down!! LeBron fans keep crying

[@PowerGearPerformance]

Jordan all day.. Jordan can rise on the big stage offensively or defensively to win games.

[@markbriggs1245]

Bobby Night said Jordan is the best player he ever seen. This is when Jordan was 19. A college allstar team with Jordan beat an NBA allstar team with the likes of Larry Bird like four or five times straight. I'm 54 and Jordan is the best player I've ever seen.

[@ccbgaming6994]

No one gives a shit about one man’s opinion

[@PETERODZZ]

No. LeBron is not better than Jordan. I can type this all day if I have too.

[@derrickalarcon3424]

didn't jordan average a triple double as a senior in high school. I believe it was 29/11/10 and scored 30 in the senior McDonalds all American game with another mvp of that game. just saying lol

[@tysonlee3864]

lebron shouldn't be in the goat conversation

[@thetruther9521]

MJ over LeBron .. Why ? JORDAN Knows Everything .. LeBron asks for the Answers .. get it ?

[@MichaelLandSeasandAir]

Kobe should be compared to Jordan because of their playing styles and Lebron should only be compared to Magic Johnson because of theirs.

[@bobbyd6097]

Yes the rim is 10 feet and Lebron is 2 inches taller! But MJ has 4 inches higher vertical! Lebron is great, MJ is the GOAT!

[@cjaviergutierrez]

Can't ask that question to bill ...a MJ hater..

[@melvinmcclain8127]

Hell no. No in English and no in Spanish. Lost more in the finals than MJ. 1-8 in finals 1st games, 3-6 in the finals, got swept twice, lost to the same team 3 times. L3-6ron will pass up MJ in stats because MJ left the nba. L3-6ron james will NEVER 3peat and will NEVER get 6 titles. These are facts.

[@rauveridtan740]

You don't know Jordan when he was 16 'cause there's not so much media before compares today where a booty of celebrity is considered a news.

[@MrChrismlamorte]

No. LeBron isn't close to MJ

[@selegnakomedagul1176]

Lebron is a freak of nature and he's probably a top 5 nba player of all time, but to say that he is the GOAT is just absurd. Fans of Lebron keep bringing up stats saying that he is the greatest, guess what? Stats do matter but if you ain't got the "KILLER' mentality and you'd rather pass the ball in bigger moments, then it's blasphemous to be even compared to Michael. 5 losses in the finals says it all, HE AIN'T GETTING AWAY WITH THAT! Plain and simple.

[@ccbgaming6994]

Lebron has the most post season buzzer beaters in nba history. That’s killer mentality.

[@domenicantonelli7797]

he is the black Jesus

[@MrChrismlamorte]

No. LeBron isnt better then MJ. Thanks!

[@fethryduck]

Bill is what he is and always was. A jealous Bit...... No Doubt MJ is Number 1.

[@selegnakomedagul1176]

Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, but FIVE finals losses!!! Mj is the goat.

[@acchris029]

Sublime Guitarist did you for get the not 6, not 7, not 8 part? well hes was impying of losses so he beat jordan there.

[@terrifictroll1916]

Jordan scored when he HAD to..big difference between "all time scoring leader"...Jordan had 10 scoring titles..defensive layer of the year..lebron NEVER...MULTIPLE times steals leader of the year.. had TWICE as many 30+/40+/50+ point games than lebron..More MVPs...6 for 6 in finals..6 finals MVPs..NEVER a game 7...MUCHHH better ft shooter than lebron..Jordan was known as Mr CLUTCH..Lebron known as Mr CHOKE..Jordan beat a 60+ win team on way to titles like 10 times..Lebron ONCE..(MAYBE twice)..Jordan was so GREAT its 2017 and his SHOES are STILL the most popular shoe in the WORLD!!....i can go on and on and on..But here is a clincher..Jordan was named "Athlete of the CENTURY!!!"..

[@terrifictroll1916]

This dudes ENTIRE arguement was that lebron is "bigger"

[@tyronejames4187]

Max destroyed him. MJ for the win

[@rjdownie161]

No Lebron is not better than Jordan not even close

[@derrickwilliamson5843]

Stop asking questions we already know the answer to . LeBron couldn't win a championship without joining a super team to win Jordan never had to do that and nether did any other basketball great👍what do these people want us to do forget that ? if he would have stayed in Cleveland the first time because he started in the same position Jordan started and every other great ball player . this clown wants us to believe that LeBron has won his 🏆's playing with a bunch of bums and that makes him better than jordan but I say again LeBron James had to go create the first and I repeat the first super team to ever win a championship! and just like he left the Cleveland Cavaliers the first time after making it to the conference finals and losing after sweeping the playoffs up till the conference finals in the same position the goat whether this clown agrees or not Michael Jordan was in against Detroit guess what he did? he didn't do what the all time greats did like magic Johnson Larry bird Hakeem the dream Olajuwon Michael Jordan Bill Russell dr. J he didn't stick with the team he was with and bring them to Greatness no no no he ran to go and create I already set to win a championship team there by creating the NBA'S first super team and they were such a super team that they got their own 30 minute sports segment the big three Dwyane Wade Chris Bosh LeBron James Jr Smith need I go on Shane Battier and they lost to the team nobody thought would beat the Dallas you can't be serious. And guess what LeBron the guy you people want us to think is better than Jordan did as soon as they lost he ran and created another super team with LeBron James Kevin love and kyrie Irving and jr smith and the host of other players he had at his disposal! and as soon as they lost he ran to another team .real great players don't chase championship stacked teams they chase championships. So stop with the bullshit

[@brandonterzic]

First thing is first. If you are using the primary measuring stick in qualifying a player's greatness as championships won, it is a false equation. There are too many factors in winning a championship that are beyond any one player's control, like quality of front office, coaching staff, quality of teammates, team health, quality of competition, etc etc. I think it would be better to look at the overall winning percentages during the regular season and the playoffs, placing more emphasis on playoffs. The great ones all do inevitably win championships, but I think it is a fallacy to make that the forefront. If you look at Lebron and Jordan, it is a pretty easy thing to break down their respective games. Here are the numbers. Lebron, lifetime, is basically the 27ppg 7apg 7 rbp man. He also shot about 50% lifetime. In the playoffs his numbers go up to about 28 7 and 9. Jordan is lifetime: is 30ppg 6rbg and 5 assists. he also shot around 50% from the field. Both him and LBJ averaged 2 steals and 1 block per game. His playoff averages are: 33ppg, 6 dimes and 6 boards. They both have made the NBA all defensive 1st team multiple times, with Jordan winning defensive player of the year once. I personally don't place too much on awards, though both players have multiple MVP and finals MVP awards. Being that Lebron's career is not finished yet, it is pretty pre mature to try and compare his career to MJ's, but presuming he stays healthy he will probably win another title or 2, and his career numbers will be staggering. From my own opinion, Michael is the better scorer, Lebron the better play maker. They are neck and neck as defenders, Lebron is the better rebounder but he should be, he is bigger and he is a forward. Jordan's mid range game was masterful, which is a lost art these days, as was his ability to take it to the rack. Lebron is the best passing forward ever not named Larry Bird, and his athleticism is unparalleled. Neither one of these guys were great 3 point shooters. It is pretty close to being a wash really, you couldn't go wrong with choosing either of these guys for your all-time dream team. Personally, Give me LBJ, MJ, and Dream, and I would put those 3 guys against anybody. Those are the best 2 ways players I have ever seen, with Duncan, Kobe, Mchale, Jabbar, and Garnett behind them.

[@ProverbsMC275]

I agree with you on everything except, that Lebron is the greatest SF and the greatest passing FORWARD EVER.

[@brandonterzic]

Its close bro. Larry Bird was a crafty passer, Lebron gets alot of assists from drive and kicks...Bird got his I would say in a more clever manner. But they both are lifetime around 7 assists per game. Lebron is the greatest small forward ever, but only because of his superior defensive abilities. Bird's floor game was unmatched on the offensive end.

[@ProverbsMC275]

Style doesnt equate to passing vision, and Lebron has some of the best court vision this game has ever seen, and to refute your point = gyazo.com/6ff0abc63788d16073bc16f691e4d053

[@brandonterzic]

I stand corrected. Bird's lifetime assists is 6.3, Lebron's is 6.9, so Bird averaged about a half an assist less. and yes style doesn't equate to passing vision, I just personally don't think drive and kick assists match up with thread the needle type dissection, on the ascetic level, which counts for something to me. WhatI really like about LBJ's passing is the cross court bullets. Anyways, I am partial both ways, I grew up watching Bird, but Lebron is from my hood, so I love them both. There was something about Larry's game that was magic though, in an old old school kind of way. Lebron is the better player overall though, the defensive end is what seperates the 2. For small forwards, you would have to say LBJ, Bird, Julius, Elgin Baylor, Hondo, Pippen

[@sean70729]

Are you drunk LeBron averages 1.7 steals per mj averages over 2.5 steals per no fricking way they are equal defensively.

[@fishman1347]

Lebron is better! A better diva

[@JuniorLewingKoo]

Do you really think the late Cassius Clay (Ali) would stand a chance against a Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson in his prime. As skilled as Ali were in his era. The conditioning & technology are way better than in Ali era.

[@dl30wpb]

Actually yes... George Foreman was a monster... But you seem to be an idiot lol

[@spunterage]

+Diesel this guy also forgets that if Ali was in the same era as those guys or vice versa than technological advancements would be irrelevant.

[@willievasilli]

he couldn't even make a case he know he wrong

[@JasonGreen2000]

Out of all of Jordan's stats that make sense. He brings up most consecutive triple doubles.🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@dennisasmith1230]

MJ didn’t beat Detroit till Scottie Pippen entered his prime. MJ also didn’t beat Orlando till they got Dennis Rodman. Somehow MJ gets all the credit though. Lol

[@Pawlotscha]

Dennis A - what bout Scottie maybe you right maybe not, MJ did not ever has problem with Orlando. He came back to the league after about 2 years break - in the end of season so thats is the only reason he couldnt beat Orlando in season 94/95. Rodman got nothing to do it.

[@JasonGreen2000]

Jordan's vert was 48". Lebron was 46" it evens out

[@JuniorLewingKoo]

MJ has talent & the most marketable or marquee player to propel the basketball globally. Ask former NBA president David Stern.

[@ashleygilmore1352]

Remember now the pistion made a jorden Rule they won that Game.. the following next year jorden came BK an whoop ass so if tha pistion had to do ordered to win jorden is GOAT?

[@MrAlmiranda]

who is Wesley Mathews?

[@RASTAGOOB]

MrAlmiranda a LeBron hater

[@ajaysinghfeb98]

3:48 Jordan didn't have the highest per in the history of the nba, Wilt did... And Wilt tied him for points per game total and a 50 ppg average season. The jordan nut sucker straight up lied.

[@trentf4891]

Jordan has the highest career per of all time in the regular season and playoffs. He also has about 15 other all time records in the regular season and playoffs.

[@honorfirst7506]

In the playoffs points per game Jordan averages 11 more points per game than Wilt Chamberlain. Cut it out. The game is played for winning the last game of the playoffs and for nothing else.

[@irvrickle282]

Dam go cavs

[@martinamicflyy2618]

the answer is No!

[@ShifuCareaga]

no. end of discussion

[@martybishop6131]

No not even close......

[@l.torrence1932]

The fact that we are having this question changes everything. Bron is the new G.O.A.T

[@sean70729]

Or everyone drank the ESPN look aid like deja vu when Kobe played.

[@Magiccloud-ym9zo]

bron couldn't hold jordans jock strap Jordan played in a era of men the league today are a bunch of cry babies

[@williamlau6838]

No.

[@bradymichel6762]

People act like MJ is Jesus Christ

[@JuniorLewingKoo]

Absolutely.

[@domenicantonelli7797]

he issssssssssssssssssssssss

[@KJRawX]

Larry Bird did say that MJ was "God disguised as Michael Jordan!"

[@KJRawX]

Only one game?? Jordan vs Bird career reg season avg... --> (read more) Jordan: *34 ppg .506 fg%, .306 3pt%, .870 ft%, 8.5 fta, 6.1 rpg, 5.8 apg, 2.7 spg, 1.1 bpg, 38.1 mpg, 28 games: 11 wins - 17 losses* Bird : *26.9 ppg .498 fg%, .469 3pt%, .927 ft%, 4.4 fta, 8.6 rpg, 6.4 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.9 bpg, 39.4 mpg, 28 games: 17 wins - 11 losses* _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Jordan vs Bird career Playoffs avg... Jordan: *40 ppg .464 fg%, .500 3pt%, .885 ft%, 13.0 fta, 6.7 rpg, 5.8 apg, 2.2 spg, 1.8 bpg, 43.8 mpg, Bird : *27.2 ppg .531 fg%, .462 3pt%, .869 ft%, 10.2 fta, 9.0 rpg, 8.5 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.8 bpg, 45.2 mpg, Jordan vs Bird 85/86 playoffs... *44 ppg on .505 fg%, 1.000 3pnt%, .584 ts%, 6.3 rpg, 5.7 apg, 2.3 spg, 1.3 bpg, 115 Offensive Rating, 119 Defensive Rating, 39.7 usg%, 45.0 mpg* Jordan vs Bird 86/87 playoffs... *36 ppg on .417 fg%, .400 3pnt%, .529 ts%, 7.0 rpg, 6.0 apg, 2.0 spg, 2.3 bpg, 115 Offensive Rating, 115 Defensive Rating, 38.9 usg%, 42.7 mpg* ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ LeBron vs the '07 Spurs who were nowhere near as great as Bird's Celtics... In the 2007 finals LeBron was absolutely HORRID on the big stage & was even worse in the 2011 finals, despite having his own personally handpicked Supa-Dupa Team! Notice the differences in performances between LeBron & Jordan... 2006-2007 Spurs vs Cavs 4 gm sweep - *22 ppg .356 fg%, .200 3pnt%, .428 ts%, .697 ft%, 7 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.5 bpg, 32/90 .350 fg%, .428 ts%, 4/20 .150 3 Pnt%, 20/29 .711 ft%, 7.25 fta, 23 tov's in only 4 games (5.75 tov), 83 Offensive Rating, 104 Defensive Rating, 36.1 usg%, 42.6 mpg* (SWEPT IN FINALS)* 2010-2011 Heat vs Mavs 6 games - *17.8 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.5 bpg, 43/90 .469 fg%, .541 ts%, 9/28 .289 3 pnt%, 12/20 .666 ft%, 3.3 fta, 24 tov's in 6 games, 4 tov, 3.5 pf, 43.4 mpg (Lost Finals in 5 games)* LeBron was 23 in the 07' finals. Jordan at 23 yrs old averaged *37 ppg on .491 fg%, 5 rpg, 5 apg & 2 spg for the entire 86' season*, while playing in a brutal Eastern conference & despite coming off a career threatening foot injury! Jordan at 23 yrs old in the playoffs averaged *36 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 6.0 apg, 2.0 spg, 2.3 bpg, 90% from the FT line & 40% from 3 pnt land* & still got swept in the first round! This is just 1 of then many proofs that LeBron benefited & still benefits from playing in a creampuff Eastern Conference for basically his ENTIRE career!

[@KJRawX]

Jordan has a better 3 pnt percentage in the playoffs & finals! Prove that Bird was strictly talking about that 1 game?? Oh wait.....U CAN'T U DUMBASS! I win! U lose! :)

[@JuniorLewingKoo]

Three rings in today's tough & fast paced basketball are like literally 6 rings. Lebron may retire with 5 rings. Do the math. 5×2= I rest my case. Lebron has as look already equal MJ as already.

[@mattb3910]

lol...sorry junior. The competition was much better in the 80's/early 90's...plus the league is soft now a days. 6 rings of MJ's are like 12 today....do the math.

[@skuggasveinn_music]

So basketball is the only sport that has evolved backwards with time? There is much more competition in basketball today with much higher salaries and more people playing the game. Watching games from the 80/90's is like watching today's game in slow motion.

[@jerrodgarland7160]

When people talk they never talk about when Jordan was getting swept by teams in the playoffs they just talk about when they stacked his team with the best players & the best coach

[@dylanwhite6618]

+Matt Beaupre I agree

[@mattb3910]

"evolving" of athletes doesn't take place in 20-30 years. Rules change, the game changes but I would not call it evolving. If anything I think the game has gotten worse. There is LESS competition in today's game vs the 80's/early 90's. There were less teams, and more athletes that played 4 years in college. The league was "deeper". The pace in the 80's and early 90's was FASTER than today's game so I don't really know what you're talking about (seriously...it's a fact, look it up). And let's not forget that early in MJ's career, he got swept by the Celtics twice (widely considered the best team ever)....that's it. And in 88/89 in Pippens 2nd year,, they went to the ECF vs the pistons who are also top 5 or 10 best teams of all time. They made it to the ECF again the following year and lost to the Pistons in 7 games who ended up winning the championship (and are one of the best teams of all time). Pippen stunk it up in game 7 going 1 for 10 with 2 points in 40 minutes. He really didn't "come into his own" until after that series (3rd year of play). And let's not forget MJ NEVER MISSED THE PLAYOFFS. And when they were getting swept by the Celtics, MJ was playing with guys like O. Woolridge, Charles Oakley, David Corzine, Brad Sellers, ....Picture those guys going up against, Bird, McHale, Parrish, DJ, And in those series, particularly in the 80's, MJ was DOMINATING the entire league....but played on a crappy team.

[@nitehumpp]

What drug are you on?

[@justin-wb9tm]

Lebron all day, mj was great winning 6 for 6 in NBA finals and had the better prime years, but Lebron will have the better overall career.

[@adambarett8629]

Lebron goat, nuff said

[@dtayak]

Adam Barett he's not but ok

[@RASTAGOOB]

you know LeBron is better than Jordan because at 16 LeBron could've been the #1 pick in the draft EASILY.

[@JuniorLewingKoo]

Lebron is far superior to Michael Jordan. Lebron is faster, bigger & way better. Jordan era is over. Today's basketball is way tougher than the 90s era. Wake up idiots. Jordan only wish he coiled do what these players are doing now.

[@bobdole4432]

+Joel Villarreal lol nothing to dispute what he said just butthurt. MJ as great as he is is the most overrated athlete ever. Still top 5 all time but he gets more overrated overtime because kids grew up wanking themselves to his posters. As people and athletes evolve they're is always a better player. Always. Really think babe Ruth is better then Mike Trout? Lol

[@JuniorLewingKoo]

+Michael Parisi I totally agree. Most of these basketball fans believe that the game of basketball stop when MJ & Bryant retire. Not realizing that the are not only better. It's progressing or evolving.

[@bobdole4432]

+Joel Villarreal you're entitled to your opinion but facts indicate otherwise. LeBron is the only player in nba history to lead both teams and players in the finals in PPG, assists, rebounds, blocks, steals

[@acchris029]

+Michael Parisi 3 peat. retire. 3 peat. enough said.

[@acchris029]

+Joel Villarreal 8 peat what?