Is Loki RE-WRITING the MCU Timeline? - Time Slipping Explained

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10 ай бұрын

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Loki's season 2 trailer showed the god of mischief "slipping" through time. But what exactly does that mean? Is he hopping between universes? How many universes are there? And does this all mean that the MCU is about to be reset?
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Written by Colton Ogburn ( / coltonogburn )
Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Randolf Nombrado, Brianna McLarty, Lee Mazzio, and Sofien Dami
The Loki season 2 trailer has arrived and we need to talk about why Loki is doing this-[clip]
So there’s a HUGE hint that was hiding in plain sight in this trailer that I think all but spells out EXACTLY what’s causing Loki to timeslip.
And a little alter we’re going to talk about an even wilder possibility that if true-would fundamentally change the way we view the Marvel multiverse. [clip]
So from what we can tell, timeslipping is exactly what it sounds like, slipping through time. That’s pretty obvious to anyone who’s seen the trailer. But the real mystery is, what happened to Loki in those final moments of season one that has made him uncontrollably glitchthroughout the time stream?
We’ve seen MCU characters travel to alternate timelines and universes before and never experience this contorting vanishing act-or even the glitching we’ve seen happen in the Spider-Verse films. [clip] Which we’ll tlak about in a bit.
Now it’s worth mentioning that OB says he’s seen timeslipping happen before, but never within the TVA. So before we can diagnose why Loki is timeslipping and how it’s happening inside the TVA-we first need to explain what timeslipping even is.
Loki says- [clip]
If OB, a member of the TVA, has seen this before, I’d venture to guess it could be a side effect of traveling through time too many times. Perhaps he’s seen TVA agents have these same symptoms when on missions across the Sacred Timeline.
But remember, the TVA agents are variants! So this means theat time slippiung could also occur to variants who attempt to live in timelines they aren’t from-when their home timeline has been pruned from existence. [clip]
Doug: yeah, like how Sylvie was hiding out in apocalypsi.
Apicalypsi?
Doug: Its the plural of apocalypse.
Ah, didn;t know that.
Doug: I made it up.
So back to Loki timeslippung-I think we could be asking the question all wrong. The question isn’t “why is Loki slipping through time?” but why is time slipping through Loki. [clip]
The trailer even contains a massive hint about what’s happening to the god of mischief. In this trailer we saw Sylvie in a record store. And we can even see a record beginning to unravel.
Doug: What’s so special about records? You a vinyl guy now?
Buddy, records are a perfect representation of the Sacred Timeline and how it works. The circular record represents the Sacred Timeline. And the various songs on the record’s groove represent the various streams of time within the Sacred Timeline.
When you look at the Sacred Timeline you can see every moment in time-past, present and future-all occurring at once. Just like when you look at a record you can see every groove that contains every soundwave of every song on that record.
And in the center of a record you’ll find a hole for a record player spindle, the thing that makes the record spin. Just like how at the center of the Sacred Timeline you’ll find He Who Remains, who keeps the Sacred Timeline spinning.
Doug: So how does Loki play into this?
Well Loki is the needle.
On a record player the needle doesn’t spin around the record, it simply travels on a straight path across the record from start to finish. And it's the record itself that spins beneath the needle.
And that’s really how time works for everyone. The flow of time is just that, a flow. And we’re merely observers watching as time sales by.
Remember how season 1 ended. Loki and Sylvie finally came face to face with He Who Remains. He Who Remains tells them all about the multiversal war and how without him and the TVA, far worse versions of himself would rise to power. [clip]
Sylvie doesn’t buy it and still wants He Who Remains dead, but Loki fears he could be telling the truth. [clip]
They duel it out, but Sylivie gets the upper hand and sends Loki back to the TVA. She then kills He Who Remains and the multiverse devolves into madness.
And when Loki finds Mobius and tells him about what’s coming, this happens… [clip]

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@badam1814
@badam1814 10 ай бұрын
Awesome analogy to what is going on with Loki. I wonder if you could have just said that since he was located somewhere outside of time when the multiverse was let loose :P
@unlimitedv3rses
@unlimitedv3rses 10 ай бұрын
Resetting the MCU is a terrible ideal. If they do then they would have to retale all those stories againg.
@KingTeddy1
@KingTeddy1 10 ай бұрын
You should have Doug break down a movie, episode, or series about dogs. That would be Awesome 😊😮😊
@KingTeddy1
@KingTeddy1 10 ай бұрын
And also you could interject in Doug's conversations as he does in your conversations I would love to see that!
@DenizenoftheAges
@DenizenoftheAges 10 ай бұрын
GREAT SPONSOR ❤️‍🔥🙌❤️‍🔥🙌❤️‍🔥🙌
@caerwyncensored
@caerwyncensored 10 ай бұрын
I still think we really need to draw a distinction between different timelines and different universes. The word multiverse keeps being used interchangeably but I think the difference is the key.
@NastySkelet8
@NastySkelet8 9 ай бұрын
Yes I agree I got really confused and still am when they called alternate timelines multiverse
@omeressu
@omeressu 9 ай бұрын
Fr I still don't know if the time travel in endgame was a multiversal travel or actual time travel.. Like the avengers tower damage was different and everything and them changing the past didn't affect or change the timeline at all. The flash did it much better imo, at least it made sense without looking too hard into it
@nikolap490
@nikolap490 9 ай бұрын
​@@omeressuTime travel at Marvel works on the river theory. To put it simply, changing the past does not change the future but creates a parallel world with a different future.
@enriquecasiano9558
@enriquecasiano9558 10 ай бұрын
One thing that people overlook is that when Sylvie killed Kang the past, present and future was rewritten in that instant and because loki and sylvie were out of time as it happened they didnt experience the changes, like Doctor Strange mentioning the multiverse in spiderman. It doesnt seem like they just found out that the multiverse exists recently, the moment Kang died made so that the multiverse was always a thing within the time itself on each of the universes that exist in that multiverse. Like a godly retcon
@theHiddenStone
@theHiddenStone 10 ай бұрын
My guess is that our Loki's "home" timeline either no longer exists, or is no longer accessible from his current temporal location. This means he no longer has any anchor point in time. And perhaps there are multiple places in the new continuum where Loki's presence is somehow essential to the status quo, and some power (whether that be a Kang or some other cosmic bigwig) has decided that this is more important than Loki's power of agency, or his sanity. So he is, as you say, skipping around like a needle over a bumpy record, to places he is "required" - whatever that means. A bit like Quantum Leap, only it's more of a "ripped from his place in reality" than a leap.
@paulwalsh2875
@paulwalsh2875 10 ай бұрын
this is so good l!
@MikeCoxmaul
@MikeCoxmaul 9 ай бұрын
WHY CANT YOU WRITE THESE MOVIES? I swear it'd be like 10x better💀
@theboijosh
@theboijosh 10 ай бұрын
The transition to advertising the sponsors is never talked about enough😂
@perceivedvelocity9914
@perceivedvelocity9914 10 ай бұрын
If Disney wants to reboot the MCU it has to happen in theaters. The general public is not watching the Disney+ shows. The CEO has said in earning call's that they are losing subscribers and Disney+ is not profitable. A extremely common complaint about Doctor Strange was that people didn't know why Wanda was evil in the movie. They had no idea what had happened in Wanda Vision.
@glenwaldrop8166
@glenwaldrop8166 10 ай бұрын
I know Disney is going to ultimately follow the dollar but they should stick to the story. The people that aren't watching the series aren't Marvel fans (in general, not trying to say you're not a Marvel fan if you don't watch every single show), the moment they start catering to the masses instead of the fans they lose the fans. Every actual fan knew what was going on with Wanda, the casual fan did not. The actual fans will spend their money on the product, the casual fans may not, though there are a lot more casual fans...
@perceivedvelocity9914
@perceivedvelocity9914 10 ай бұрын
​@@glenwaldrop8166I'm sorry but I disagree with you. Disney is telling stories. IMO they should tell their stories where the most people will see them. At the moment Disney+ is not the best place to tell this kind of story.
@glenwaldrop8166
@glenwaldrop8166 10 ай бұрын
@@perceivedvelocity9914 Marvel and DC both are catering to casual fans, often just to people that complain, rather than their core audience. If you lose your core audience you won't keep the casuals. They're losing the core and the casuals right now.
@Kwildcat13
@Kwildcat13 10 ай бұрын
Well most people can’t afford movies so Disney plus is a cheaper alternative
@Ra-Hul-K
@Ra-Hul-K 10 ай бұрын
​@@Kwildcat13 the reality is that even people with subscriptions aren't bothered about watching every MCU show that comes out.. for instance, someone would watch the pilot episode of wandavision and would decide that it's not their cup of coffee
@brandon_tuan
@brandon_tuan 10 ай бұрын
I've to say I'd watch ScreenCrush everyday all day, man I love how Ryan just makes everything about the MCU and comics look soo understandable and fun. On KZbin, you're the best Movie Review Ryan. 👏🏽🙌🏾
@DatBoiChris420
@DatBoiChris420 10 ай бұрын
He's not even top 20 lmfao
@iamdevine376
@iamdevine376 10 ай бұрын
​@@DatBoiChris420 jealousy won't get you far in life my man trust me ,lose it now.Ryan ,Erik Voss and The Canadian Lad are top three movie reviewers on KZbin without question and if you think not just look at the numbers and statistics that otta shut you up.
@treysniper
@treysniper 10 ай бұрын
@@DatBoiChris420i need more ppl to watch so give me those 20 😂
@brandon_tuan
@brandon_tuan 10 ай бұрын
@@DatBoiChris420 Well then you've bad taste I guess 😂 😂
@DatBoiChris420
@DatBoiChris420 10 ай бұрын
@@iamdevine376 jealous of what exactly?
@F-Society-Mr.Robot-
@F-Society-Mr.Robot- 10 ай бұрын
I honestly have no idea at all. Just happy to have season 2 and Loki still in the MCU
@OkamiSatsujin
@OkamiSatsujin 10 ай бұрын
The clue is in the casting...Everything, everywhere, all at once, but on an MCU scale instead. Loki is slipping through time because there is a version of Loki still in the Citadel at the End of Time. If all time is now and is spinning out from the citadel, whenever the other Loki interacts with a time period, our Loki slips into that time period because they're tethered. Einstein called it, Spooky Action at a distance. Or, quantum entanglement.
@nayelivalenciana2304
@nayelivalenciana2304 10 ай бұрын
And maybe that other loki is sylvie 😳
@ladiguevrt333
@ladiguevrt333 10 ай бұрын
What if, like you said, now that the multiverse-packing-thingy (the cercle at the void I think??) There's INFINITE possiblities of what loki could've done, so it happens at the same "time" and switch place with "variants" of himselves and that's why he is time-splipping, since many versions of himselves zre doing something else
@Sienisota
@Sienisota 9 ай бұрын
​@nayelivalenciana2304 could be. Loki is a shapeshifter, so Sylvie genuinely could be just a shapeshifted Loki. Heck, we never saw baby Loki’s genitals, so for all we know, our original Loki was born a Frost Giant girl baby, who shapeshifted to an Aesir boy baby.
@vivaankhasnis7862
@vivaankhasnis7862 10 ай бұрын
Just watching this video is breaking my mind. If this is the direction the MCU is going, it's incredibly interesting but also VERY complicated.
@MrCake-ui8uo
@MrCake-ui8uo 10 ай бұрын
I don't think its interesting... Its extremely complicated.
@DionAndress5
@DionAndress5 10 ай бұрын
Whatever is going on, I think that Loki will be the ultimate savior at the conclusion of the Multiverse saga.
@ZyliceLiddell
@ZyliceLiddell 6 ай бұрын
He a;ways has been and always will be. 😉
@Sillygoosespoofse
@Sillygoosespoofse 10 ай бұрын
loki is like to be our living paradox, theyre setting it up kinda like that. Avoiding his fate, falling in love with his variant, his existence spanning the multiverse wether its how you described it or not, maybe hes the key, our owen reece.
@Nbz0
@Nbz0 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately most of what Ryan and other great KZbinrs come up with is way more connected, coherent, and cool than anything the MCU is concerned with. I’ve seen countless theories on this channel prove to be FAR more interesting than what the MCU is actually doing. It sucks that the MCU does not care that much about the MCU.
@domdomjamesterry4378
@domdomjamesterry4378 10 ай бұрын
Fully agree. If I was Marvel, I would watch these videos closely and replicate the theories, or at least try and push them in that direction. They're always way more thought-out, clever and make for great story telling.
@dskillzhtown
@dskillzhtown 10 ай бұрын
I agree. That is the problem with these channels. I enjoy them, but they set unrealistic expectations for what is about to happen. MCU is not as connected as these videos wishes it was. I just feel like at this point, the MCU is just trying to push content out, being coherent isn't a concern.
@ZachDickson
@ZachDickson 10 ай бұрын
This is the sad truth right here. Fully agree. KZbinrs get me excited. The actual show/movie does not.
@Berto2K
@Berto2K 10 ай бұрын
I think some of that may have to do with keeping the plot reachable by more masses. Casuals who don't watch YT vids for more info had a hard enough time keeping up with End Game and Loki travel shenanigans.
@michaelwhitfield9095
@michaelwhitfield9095 10 ай бұрын
So...what we need to do is lobby for Ryan and his crew to actually be hired on as screenwriters at Marvel, once the SAG-AFTRA strikes are over...someday.
@DRS7672
@DRS7672 10 ай бұрын
I loved the idea of every black hole being a different universe, and inside each one are coexisting thousands of timelines. Didn't notice that on Loki's S1 finale, but it'd explain so much about this multiverse mess. They haven't made it that clear, in some projects they tell you about different timelines, in others they tell you about different universes, but that arose so many questions like, if you travel to the past, are you traveling to another timeline or to another universe? Now this answer would imply that you are traveling just to another timeline, where things just went differently, but that you're still inside the same shared universe. It's still kinda confusing, but would explain so much.
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 10 ай бұрын
I hope this is the case because this is what DC and most of other media that cover time travel and multiversal travel tend to follow. Marvel not following that made it so confusing.
@hezekiahramirez6965
@hezekiahramirez6965 10 ай бұрын
I have to tell you, all this metaphysical mumbo jumbo is a big reason I lost interest in the MCU. I watched this video to see how complicated it's gotten and it doesn't inspire confidence. My eyes just glaze over when I hear all this timeline parallel universe omni-whatever crap and I just tune it out. This is why I haven't read mainstream comics in years. It's so hard to follow I lose interest. And it's not that I'm not smart enough to understand it. I just can't bring myself to care. If I really wanted to follow it I could and have followed many complex narratives over the years, but this just doesn't hold my interest at all. It's hard to follow because it's so uninteresting and unnecessarily complicated and I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way
@mastertucker
@mastertucker 10 ай бұрын
The issues here are that the TVA still considers timelines branching off to create a multiverse. So to them timelines are confirmed to be universes. The other issue is with the black holes. If Marvel timelines are a multiverse then the black holes were two multiverses, okay that's fine either way, but if you notice when we're zooming out of the first black hole, all the audio is real world events. Once we zoom into that and to the other one, then it's all Marvel audio. They're clearly implying that that other black hole is not just another marvel universe but our real universe. So the one black hole with all the marvel audio is the marvel multiverse, each timeline is another universe - timelines and universes being the same thing here - and another black hole is a whole other multiverse, and more specifically is our own multiverse completely separate and inaccessible.
@Natta44
@Natta44 10 ай бұрын
So this would explain Strange travelled through multiple black holes but in the form of a doorway through Americas portals. So maybe they just aren't important as we are dealing with different timelines rather than different universes apart from 838 which seems to be mentioned the most so far as its most similar to our own rather than the paint one.
@Natta44
@Natta44 10 ай бұрын
​@mastertucker This is what I originally thought when I watched season 1. The only way they could get around a timeline being a new universe which didn't make sense to us is assuming the first point in time is the creation and that universe was created differently so instead of galaxy's and planets forming it formed weird liquid entities or something. Because big bang or whatever happened differently in that timeline thus creating a completely unrecognisable universe with own set of laws of physics. But I want to still with the separate universe blackhole theory with its own tangle of timelines is what they went for. Head is hurting.
@NoxAnexayi
@NoxAnexayi 10 ай бұрын
This is the video that finally made me understand the whole mtiverse/time line thing. The record analogy helped a lot.
@sylkilaufeyson
@sylkilaufeyson 10 ай бұрын
My theory is that loki has arrived at the beginning of the sacred timeline right after the tva was created and the reason he is time slipping is because the time loom which keeps the timeline together is broken
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 10 ай бұрын
THANKS for this, Ryan and Doug!!!
@ZevockVile
@ZevockVile 10 ай бұрын
I believe that Loki isn’t just slipping through time but is slipping between alternate timelines and universe’s. I also believe that Loki was not sent to an alternate TVA but the same TVA but in the past. Even though the TVA exists outside of time it still hast it’s own unique timeline. Meaning Loki could have been sent to the TVA in the past Maybe when He who remains reigned openly before creating the illusion of the Time Keepers.
@julianneb2941
@julianneb2941 10 ай бұрын
Plus Mobius didn't even know who Loki was which he should have generally even if he didn't know they had already met
@nayelivalenciana2304
@nayelivalenciana2304 10 ай бұрын
​@@julianneb2941Exactly, and more with the fact that mobius said on the first season that the loki's variants were the most numerous of all.
@FoggyBadger
@FoggyBadger 10 ай бұрын
I love how Loki appears in front of the wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tube man, imitating his own motions lol
@AllyGirl-hg2sb
@AllyGirl-hg2sb 10 ай бұрын
Yeah that was pretty funny. 😅
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 10 ай бұрын
The time travel Logic is always so interesting great video as always ryan👍🏽.
@PaulieLauraXombie1331
@PaulieLauraXombie1331 10 ай бұрын
To me I think his goal is to get back to the citadel to stop Sylvie from killing He Who Remains, and the earlier Loki may try to tune the stream into the single strand
@ArianaariasPrieto
@ArianaariasPrieto 10 ай бұрын
Peter to Loki ,thank you thank you thank you . Loki- it had to be done my boy
@SceneWins
@SceneWins 10 ай бұрын
So the whole point of season 2 is to undo season 1? Yeah, I could see that.
@vantyto
@vantyto 10 ай бұрын
Soo, break infinity war logic? "Time can't be changed" If you stop sylvi, you end in diferent timeline.
@PaulieLauraXombie1331
@PaulieLauraXombie1331 10 ай бұрын
It kind of can in a way because of Gamora and well Loki himself.. Loki manipulated their timeline by using the tesseract hence why he's in the TVA, younger Gamora was also ripped from her timeline and brought back into our current timeline, She should technically be captured by the TVA for replacing our dead Gamora. They haven't truly explained that I know what The Ancient One tells Bruce how it works but we have the proof it can be manipulated
@vantyto
@vantyto 10 ай бұрын
​@@PaulieLauraXombie1331 no, that's not accualy chnagned timeline. they created new timelines, but didn't changet their own timeline, its like, any change in history don't make change in your curent timeline. by any change you create new timeline from that point. so by bringing Gamora here, they created new timeline in Gamora'S original timeline. now there is 2 timelines - 1. "our" main MCU that whe know and 2. timeline without Gamora (this timeline should be destroyed by TVA, if we take what Morbius told Loki, that "main MCU" timeline is "the one") + she is from past, so you technicly don't change anything in "our" by that. By Loki "escaping", we can see that TVA destroyed that timeline in 1st LOKI episode, when they arest him, they put that "deleting devices" there (if i remember correctly) Only thing that is sort of proof is old Cap. America, he shouldn't be there, unles it is Cap from diferent timeline, and "our" stay in diferent one. but....i think writers itself are lost in their own rules, and they change it as they want. so.....
@jeremyowens81
@jeremyowens81 10 ай бұрын
good job with the ad. leading into it was brilliant.
@_TheViewer_
@_TheViewer_ 10 ай бұрын
Loki left the timeline around 2012, all in Loki series is outside of time/main time in the movies/series ! With the support of William & Mephisto: MCU In-Universe Years 2023 Endgame WandaVision (about three weeks after) 2024 The Falcon & W (said 6 months after endgame) Far from Home (spring/early summer) Shang-Chi (said around April, because of the Quiming (day of the dead, joke with the grandma bringing her husband alc)) Eternals No Way Home (Around November, MJ should remove decorations from Halloween) Multiverse of Madness (seems fishy but November/December, either it’s some weeks or months after NWH) Hawkeye (December) 2025 Moon Knight Wakanda Forever She-Hulk (again fishy, because it’s said to be some short time after Shang-Chi, because of Wong and Abo, prolly Gao’s fault) Ms. Marvel Love and Thunder Werewolf by night (Giacchino said that he has an extra idea for the specials in the timeline, but it’s not official yet) The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special (December again) 2026 Quantumania Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 Secret Invasion (All in 2026 maybe then be around February/March to June, no signs of Christmas/winter either) (Loki & What If… excluded, we don’t know the time, this Loki went off the time around 2012) So we got a reference for the year and month inside the mcu for now, I hope 😂 so we all on the same page ✌️
@MammothMorals
@MammothMorals 10 ай бұрын
I think ms marvel is closer to secret invasion as as it ends with with her being swapped with captain marvel, leading way for the marvel's. And in secret invasion nick fury knows nothing about captain marvel being on earth even tho he's in the marvels
@_TheViewer_
@_TheViewer_ 10 ай бұрын
@@MammothMorals The Marvels is prolly coming directly or short time after Ms marvel and SI stays at its place. Even with Fury being in the Marvels, it doesn’t mean he knows where Captain Marvel is while in SI, nor that she stayed since then on earth. Unless they move SI back in the chronological timeline, everything is correct and in connection with Disney plus. And he just said he can’t call the heroes because of the harvest secret. Another sign for Ms Marvel and The Marvels being close but far from SI. Coming down to: The Swap happened and right after that the Marvels will pick up, while fury is on saber before SI even STARTED. The Marvels after SI sound less realistic with the time since the first swap, I mean it could be like we see Kamala being somewhere else off earth for a while before switching somehow with monica and then meeting fury, like in the trailer. But less realistic I think.
@joshuameisinger5746
@joshuameisinger5746 10 ай бұрын
I loved that you were using a Mouse Rat record during the video! Love the channel!
@adamsavage2646
@adamsavage2646 10 ай бұрын
4:45 best MCU multiverse explanation I've heard yet
@marzix427
@marzix427 10 ай бұрын
I think Loki is going to be the key to the multiverse being fixed in Kang Dynasty and Secret War.
@ZyliceLiddell
@ZyliceLiddell 7 ай бұрын
Oh it’s not just you, *EVERYONE* does as Marvel are certainly setting it up that way. 😉
@robi-wankenobi6416
@robi-wankenobi6416 10 ай бұрын
I have a different idea: maybe the TVA, being a time police, can’t overlook the Multiverse alone, so like multiple police stations for each region, there are multiple TVAs per part of the Miltiverse, each with its own Kang as leader, and Loki is slipping between those TVAs
@ladiguevrt333
@ladiguevrt333 10 ай бұрын
I've seen a theory where they think that the MCU project is happening in 2 different universes, it could explain a lot of non-sense that we saw recently, like, the law in she-hulk or even Kamahla kan backstory etc was happening in a different universe.
@Marianojoey
@Marianojoey 10 ай бұрын
Really cool theory, and the explanation was superb. :D
@briank7957
@briank7957 10 ай бұрын
Ryan I just heard you on Preston and Steve, 93.3 WMMR in Philadelphia. Great segment with my favorite radio show and my favorite (since I found you explaining secret invasion) MCU breakdown channel!
@ElChris816
@ElChris816 10 ай бұрын
This was an amazing theory/breakdown. They wouldn't show the two black holes in that opener for no reason. I feel that you're hitting the nail on the head with this. Besides the Ahsoka series, I'm really excited for Loki. Marvel really needs a win and hopefully Loki will be just that.
@slack__
@slack__ 10 ай бұрын
GotG3 was a big win in my opinion, and Loki is the next release now. I think the "Bob Chapek hangover" might be wearing off, and we could be seeing some of the things that Bob Iger has been overseeing at Disney going forward, and trying to course correct away from the fkcup that Chapek put the MCU in - Back to another era of quality over quantity. Most of the projects have been enjoyable, and much better than your average cable shows etc, so I'm not complaining, but i guess a lot of fans might be expecting too much, or don't know what was going on at disney behind the scenes with the execs etc. Idk though, imma just watch along and see 🤷‍♂
@Natta44
@Natta44 10 ай бұрын
Other black hole is 838? Since their illuminati was already aware of multiverse.
@lucagz6481
@lucagz6481 10 ай бұрын
True, those "black holes" are also what He Who Remains showed while explaining how he (or a variant of him) discovered the Multiverse, as "Other Universes, stucked on top". Clearly, it shows that the whole TVA cartoon was a straight up lie also in explaning the Sacred Timeline, which makes it more "down-to-earth" than it was described: it was never the entire Multiverse that was re-created as a single flow, but only the Timeline of one Universe.
@viktorj16
@viktorj16 10 ай бұрын
Oh man, I really liked this analogy. Thank you for the great video Ryan and Team.
@joejohn6987
@joejohn6987 10 ай бұрын
Loki is an epileptic with insane auras. I feel you!
@apeman505
@apeman505 10 ай бұрын
Real quick shoutout to that stunt guy playing Loki getting yeeted back to the TVA, skidding on his back, and doing a backwards somersault onto his face. That looked painful, but also kind of fun.
@mrwaffles4334
@mrwaffles4334 10 ай бұрын
The tva is in its own universe that Kang created outside of his palace because he knew that having variants(tva workers) outside of the sacred time-line could be a liability to him and he must have knew that the variants he kept(tva workers) would age so thats why time moved differently in that "place". The reason for loki's time slipping is because the universe that they're in is branching and becuse its branching loki is "slipping through time" as ryan said in the tva. Also somehow Kang was expecting Sylvie to kill him or make a different decision then the last time he was in that situation because he said he was going to end up back in the same spot and i assumed thats what he ment. Just a theory.
@ArtanesCS-Rockon
@ArtanesCS-Rockon 10 ай бұрын
Ryan holding the record by the grooves drove me nuts.
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 10 ай бұрын
Should they just hard reboot the MCU?
@micheal.j3331
@micheal.j3331 10 ай бұрын
Noo please no
@samurexatlas7373
@samurexatlas7373 10 ай бұрын
At this point? The might have to, post Phase 6.
@_TheViewer_
@_TheViewer_ 10 ай бұрын
It think they can do the perfect soft reboot after secret wars, bring this plan to an end like it was thought to be, give us battleworld and then soft reboot with what was good and make the rest new + mutants 👌
@micheal.j3331
@micheal.j3331 10 ай бұрын
I just don't think it's good to give the fans everything they want, it's kinda like giving a child everything they asks for, they end up spoilt
@wobsoriano
@wobsoriano 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, and include Black Adam in the Avengers
@TOKUSATSU_MONK
@TOKUSATSU_MONK 10 ай бұрын
That alternate multiverse theory may be how we get heroes like the X-Men or fantastic four in the mcu
@petertomshany
@petertomshany 10 ай бұрын
Recent work in theoretical physics brings up a thought experiment comparing the perspectives of two individuals, one outside an event horizon, and one who has crossed beyond it. I’m sure this doesn’t help, but I know theorists are often consulted when writing sci fi. I hope some of these ideas (not exactly “new”) make it into the show.
@sebastiansaavedra3683
@sebastiansaavedra3683 10 ай бұрын
the segway into the ads was crazy LMAO. loveit
@PapiBocaChula
@PapiBocaChula 10 ай бұрын
Well I think Slyvie. The Older Version we Haven't seen yet, is the cause of "Loki" Time Slipping. And some how he always ends up with Slyvie in Time.
@dominickscott4454
@dominickscott4454 10 ай бұрын
Love the shoutout to NR. SC and NR are my go to for breakdowns and Easter eggs
@harrogance3404
@harrogance3404 9 ай бұрын
It’s a very cool hypothesis. Basically time slipping is just Loki standing still and living a linear timeline, but the rest of reality changing around him, meaning that from the perspective of anyone else he (Loki) just appears and disappears. Nice 👌 Keep the good work going, sending love to all the screen crush crew 🫶
@djtripmix
@djtripmix 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@ZyliceLiddell
@ZyliceLiddell 6 ай бұрын
*LOVE* the record analogy! 👏
@martybarron816
@martybarron816 9 ай бұрын
Great video thank you
@bradfordgoodman8564
@bradfordgoodman8564 9 ай бұрын
When Sylvie and Loki met he who remains he was jumping through time with that little pad on hand. And when Sylvie push Loki through that portal it already was loaded for what he who remains wanted Loki to do
@bradfordgoodman8564
@bradfordgoodman8564 9 ай бұрын
🤔👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@ZyliceLiddell
@ZyliceLiddell 6 ай бұрын
Time-slipping is like ‘rubber-banding’ in video games when you’re in a laggy server and you’re moving too fast ‘where you’re not supposed to be’ and the server can’t keep up so it ‘glitches you around the place.’
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 6 ай бұрын
Yeah that's a greta metaphor for it
@pesky-media
@pesky-media 9 ай бұрын
Loki slips through time because of the many times he flips his hair back in a dramatic fashion
@StarshineGoomba
@StarshineGoomba 10 ай бұрын
I'm waiing for find out that *somehow* the moment that Sylvie killed "He Who Remains" happened around the same time that the multiverse was breaking at the end of Spider-Man: No Way Home. Like maybe going along with that theory that only the person doing the time travelling remmebers the previous timeline, Kang may not have *orignally* been in the Quantum Realm when Janet VanDyne was, but the timeline changed after Sylvie killed "He Who Remains".
@beautheory6047
@beautheory6047 10 ай бұрын
Kang basically closes a time loop to create the sacred timeline the same way Rick created his citadel - by excluding any timelines where he's not the smartest & strongest. This is why the end of time is at the center. Time is a period of a celestial body's rotation. The reason why Kang wanted to be killed in the center was that was the only way to create a derivative universe with the closed loop, in which the sacred timeline continues to exist - but Kang isn't trapped inside. (Another Kang) Loki basically is stuck between his old and the new because he was part of that plot, but back in the TVA when the death of Kang occurred.
@KatR264
@KatR264 9 ай бұрын
I think we’re dealing with a single multiverse and the reason why we don’t see a paint-Kang or a cube-Kang is that he never managed to achieve inter-dimensional travel. In Marvel cannon Kang only travels through time, not dimensions. Maybe the paint universe has a paint-Kang, or maybe things unfolded sufficiently differently in the paint universe that Kang never felt that drive to master time travel (who knows?) But Kang cannot master other dimensions at this point in time because he was so drawn-in by what he discovered whilst time-travelling. One thing is that the Lokis, including those trapped with the liath, were unique in all being outside of the sacred timeline when the multiverse started to split. Every other person who crossed the TVA (including Thors, Titans, etc) all died, only Lokis, many Lokis, lived in the void as well as being with He Who Remains at the moment of the split.
@KevinAJKline
@KevinAJKline 10 ай бұрын
That Mouse Rat album is in perfect condition. Well done.
@justinproctor4453
@justinproctor4453 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like a great way for Loki season 2 to unfold. I’m just more apathetic at this point with mcu. Do they have amazing places they could with things beyond endgame? Yes. Will they succeed despite constantly to this point failing miserably? Most likely not
@DenizenoftheAges
@DenizenoftheAges 10 ай бұрын
Loki going from God of Mischief to God of Stories HYPE Edit: Ultimates HYPE
@AirFuzz
@AirFuzz 10 ай бұрын
No one said yet that the 3 time keepers are in fact the three Kangs from the council of Kangs. You knew it first here.
@Memein4k
@Memein4k 10 ай бұрын
The flash kind of explains it. He who remains kept it neat like a record player. Without him or rather multiple Jim’s everything turns to spaghetti.
@MagicCityMayhem
@MagicCityMayhem 10 ай бұрын
Loki is like the island from LOST. He’s been dislodged from time.
@The_Infamous_Boogyman
@The_Infamous_Boogyman 10 ай бұрын
Omg i needed a new video from one of my top 3 so bad. Thank u for something. Anything. Its been so dry since this stupid strike. Pay the people and get back to work
@jvlicious
@jvlicious 10 ай бұрын
Wow, fantastic analogy 🤯 Would not be surprised if this will be the actual explanation that they'll use in the series. Even with a new team behind S2, hoping for tasteful fan service (Throg, etc) as well as genuine surprises (subtle nods to Multiverse of Madness, etc) and a better throughput of Kang's role.
@RobStevens64
@RobStevens64 10 ай бұрын
Nice job with the record analogy! Now let's hope this is how they'll explain it in the show. ;)
@jamelherring5359
@jamelherring5359 9 ай бұрын
I’m more amazed how much work was put into this theory.
@D4rktimesss
@D4rktimesss 10 ай бұрын
This season is about to be crazy.
@plummet3860
@plummet3860 10 ай бұрын
crazy shit yeh probably
@daviddesjardins7751
@daviddesjardins7751 10 ай бұрын
Love this analogy.
@ivand121
@ivand121 9 ай бұрын
i think that time slipping is going to the past which is why Loki sees another version of him from the past and it said getting pulled through the past and present but i didn’t say future so he is slipping to the past and present when he first got to the tva
@kadadriancottman9097
@kadadriancottman9097 10 ай бұрын
Use stuff you learn on brilliant for more of your videos, your breakdown of a record/record player was nice.
@arkahimself
@arkahimself 10 ай бұрын
@screencrush Reminds me Tony's quote from Endgame "It's the EPR Paradox. Instead of pushing Lang through time, you might have wound up pushing time through Lang. It's tricky, dangerous. Somebody could have cautioned you against it."
@quinnsnextstep
@quinnsnextstep 10 ай бұрын
I liked the record analogy.
@SuddenJeff
@SuddenJeff 10 ай бұрын
The vinyl album analogy makes sense. Time keeps on slipping into the future because of The Steve Miller Band.
@pj828
@pj828 10 ай бұрын
Loki is the best thing the MCU has done since Endgame. Can't Wait to see it!! And Ryan!! Give Doug a hug for me!!
@RealXbot
@RealXbot 10 ай бұрын
You are so right about the multiples theory
@iLLiCiT_XL
@iLLiCiT_XL 10 ай бұрын
I feel like the other blackholes are the Sony and Fox Marvel universes, and I think Deadpool will confirm this. Also, and this is a wild one: I think Kang's control over the MCU is a metaphor for Disney's control over Marvel (maybe even a direct dig at Bob Chapek). And that's why He Who Remains' chamber at the end of Loki had a slightly hidden Mickey in the form of his window facing the sacred timeline.
@wolfbite1984
@wolfbite1984 10 ай бұрын
Perfect analogy time is exactly like a spinning record
@Grimmsnake
@Grimmsnake 10 ай бұрын
Another KZbinr had the same type of idea but with the world eater galactis an only a few of the well liked hero’s get pruned or something to another time line. This would be a great way to start over an focus on mutants an tell thous storys. A reboot really
@phihun
@phihun 10 ай бұрын
Another brilliant video... But i need to know - who voices Doug??? 😢
@ZyliceLiddell
@ZyliceLiddell 7 ай бұрын
‘God of Stories.’ 😉
@fizzle7421
@fizzle7421 10 ай бұрын
Despite every episode opening with "I'm Ryan Arey" , I always thought Doug was calling you Preston, not person.
@ZyliceLiddell
@ZyliceLiddell 6 ай бұрын
This video is *SO important in understanding the multiverse! 🤯
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@JROtoons
@JROtoons 10 ай бұрын
I think I spotted that observer dude above the citadel in the end of time clip 😮
@wenotmenetworkglobal3978
@wenotmenetworkglobal3978 10 ай бұрын
The Segway to the sponsorship ad was NICE
@wizardmari3497
@wizardmari3497 10 ай бұрын
Nice video
@0_P.E.
@0_P.E. 10 ай бұрын
I think Eric Voss over at New Rockstars got it right. Loki is time-slipping up down either his own timeline or just the sacred timeline in general but not traveling to other dimensions like what Miles did in the Spider-verse.
@justineharper3346
@justineharper3346 9 ай бұрын
I really like the record analogy
@codyleonard4214
@codyleonard4214 10 ай бұрын
In surprised more people don't talk about that opening scene in loki when it shows a whole new set of universe.
@tymi944
@tymi944 10 ай бұрын
I love you Ryan
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the Doug content in this video. Give him extra scritches for me!
@becketro
@becketro 10 ай бұрын
Ok, I liked the record analogy.
@ZyliceLiddell
@ZyliceLiddell 6 ай бұрын
This show makes my *HEAD SPIN!* 😵‍💫🌀
@agungms99
@agungms99 10 ай бұрын
Wow i feel like already watch loki season 2 after watching your video😮
@Bmos3
@Bmos3 10 ай бұрын
This is a good theory especially considering the what if episodes like Thor being an only child however, Marvel has been having a hard enough time keeping this phase canonical so I doubt they'll introduce an omniverse. But I'm curious to see if loki season 2 will bring back some kind of faith in Marvel because wtf have they been doing lately lol
@bashengatheblackmanta7003
@bashengatheblackmanta7003 10 ай бұрын
The omniverse theory you talk about is exactly how I see it, I even commented it few months ago on the marvel reddit page.
@chopworksmedia6984
@chopworksmedia6984 10 ай бұрын
Wow what a ride
@garyfrombrooklyn
@garyfrombrooklyn 10 ай бұрын
12:24 Wait a minute! Doug may be three years old but he refers to the trio of Peters as the Peters Parker instead of the Peter Parkers. I heard a discussion on this between Stephen Merchant and Rufus Wright about Gin and Tonic, is it Gins and Tonic or Gin and Tonics lol. Anyway, back to Loki
@alexhead2645
@alexhead2645 10 ай бұрын
I think technically both forms of “gin” and “tonic” (both singular and plural) are the same, so you could say “I’d like a gin and tonic” and “I’d like some gin and tonic“ … I think
@dadaaxel3189
@dadaaxel3189 10 ай бұрын
I might be mistaken, but I thought that they revealed that Loki was pushed into the past version of the TVA, hints the Kang statue.
@Natta44
@Natta44 10 ай бұрын
I think this too. In a time way before Mobius started working on Loki cases that's why he didn't recognise him. He's in the TVA before He who remains took over.
@lucagz6481
@lucagz6481 10 ай бұрын
Finally we got to the right point: Parallel Universes and Alternate Timelines are not the exact same thing. They could've been a little clearer at the time with Loki, but it's also true that the first minutes of the 6th episode are there to litteraly show the whole thing: the "Sacred Timeline" is just the 616 Timeline without its branches growing, and He Who Remains spent the whole episode explaining that.
@1138prometheus
@1138prometheus 10 ай бұрын
Whoa thank you! So extremely exhausted by the first two minutes of your summary It just highlighted that I don't need to watch this show. Many thanks. I think I'll watch Iron Man 1 2 & 3 again
@munny_1206
@munny_1206 10 ай бұрын
How has no one talked about Cable's time travel device and how he called it time slipping
@JKUTWatcher
@JKUTWatcher 10 ай бұрын
There’s a cowboy watching this video and saying ‘woah’.
@andrewheath6451
@andrewheath6451 9 ай бұрын
You guys are teaching quantum theory at an unprecedented level
@garyabernethy2
@garyabernethy2 10 ай бұрын
when is this coming out already?
@_GeneralMechanics_
@_GeneralMechanics_ 10 ай бұрын
Just be sure to retcon the part of the MCU timeline from "Secret Invasion" that suggests Skrodey was War Machine during Infinity War through Endgame.
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