Is MIni LED Better than OLED!?

[@Thetechchap]

Hey Chaps! Reckon you'll upgrade your TV this year?? (and if so.. to what?)

[@jojorabbit61]

I am thinking of upgrading to a 65 inch 4K TV If everything goes smoothly

[@JC0894]

Sony XH90, or newer alternative

[@SpawnPoiint]

I really don't think I will. The CX is great, so it'll have to be something special (either that, or you convince me again 😂)

[@robertnorris8367]

Eyeing up the 48” LG CX oled, you saying I should hold off and wait for this year’s releases?

[@RyanJUK-zl5ms]

I’ve upgraded to Sony xh90 (ps5 ready) so far so good.

[@LeGatoDarko]

Using LG 55" oled for about 4,5 years for watching and gaming... Still can't get used to its gorgeous image quality.

[@anthonyclayton8283]

Same here I've owned a 65 b7 oled for over 3 years now and the picture still wows me..playing some games the hdr is awesome at times.

[@moorgogel]

love it to play on my 65" c9 on series x. the picture quality is amazing af.

[@SaladinSnake88]

Same guys, I've just got the LG CX 65" and will be keeping it for another 7 years! We don't need upgrading anytime soon!! 🙌👌🔥

[@LeGatoDarko]

@Bobby Rubarb just check any content on 4k version of the TV in a store. It's best way to define if u want to upgrade 😉

[@anthonyclayton8283]

@Bobby Rubarb you could accidentally spill water into your tvs air vents.. That should do it.. Oops time for an upgrade.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Ayyy! 1 million! Congrats. 😁

[@nailshorts99]

good

[@wehbaelmohtarf6212]

He deserve it

[@mmoonen9344]

Hey dawid

[@SpawnPoiint]

I've never had an issue with burn-in on OLED either, but it will be great to see how Mini LEDs will look. I have the 77" CX, and I'm blown away by it, so it'll take some beating (for me) this year.

[@Cz007_]

You claim to "never had an issue with burn-in on OLED". How long have you had the LG Cx tv for?

[@foxhound_YT]

I’ve also never had an issue with burn in and I’ve had 3 generations of OLED.

[@SpawnPoiint]

@@Cz007_ I’ve had the C7, C9 and CX over the last few years. So I can confidently say, I’ve had no burn in.

[@brandonenke2680]

@@SpawnPoiint yeah but its seems to me your buying a new Tv every other year. The average consumers isnt going to be doing that. Especially if its for a tv that cost around 2 grand.

[@Amanojaku8]

Ridiculous comment, now here's one from someone who doesn't replace their TV every 12 months. I have a 2017 55" B7 OLED and it started to show burn in (KZbin scrub bar and what looks like maybe an icon from a game or app). Before you say it I watched mixed media (live broadcasts, movies and games), always had pixel shifter on, backlight at 70, in addition to pixel refreshing once a month and although it is also hooked up to my PC on a second screen I run Actual Multiple Monitors with a time out of 60 seconds (TV will then go to screensaver) as I was so paranoid about burn in. Even with all this babysitting errors like this can still manifest and what's worse I actually got the TV in April 2018 (discount on the outgoing last year's model), so it's not even 3 years old.

[@a4andrei]

MiniLED is definitely something to get excited about until microLED becomes affordable. LCDs can also suffer from image retention which can be similar to OLED burn-in but is much more rare and usually fixable. That said, this is the 1st gen of miniLED TVs coming from big brands (apart from TCL which you rarely find in Europe) so I'm a bit cautious. Usually things are significantly improved when 2nd gen hits and I know too well how it feels to be an early adopter. Even so, it is exciting to see how things are evolving.

[@alexandrusava642]

The one thing nobody mentions about OLED is no screen flicker. Granted, most LED TVs flicker so fast you can't see it, but it does cause eye strain (for me, at least). I notice a big difference using a flickerless monitor compared to an LED TV. That being said, Sony LED TVs tend to be the best in terms little or no backlight flicker.

[@emperoroftheuniverse8841]

Every screen flickers it's called refresh rate

[@alexandrusava642]

@@emperoroftheuniverse8841 I am talking about the backlight, not the panel. Refresh rate is the number of times in one second the image is updated on the panel.

[@varshoee]

@@alexandrusava642 Another advantage of OLED is perfect viewing angle. as an LCD owner it's the only advantage of OLEDs that I miss on my LCD.

[@MTBfixHQ]

This is true, I am using the Sony x720e 43" 4k tv as a monitor and its really good, rtings rates it as flicker free, my eyes notice flicker easily so its mandatory for me, still waiting for a good upgrade candidate and these mini led tv's look promising as long as they can be produced flicker free. The sad part about tv's is they tend to be 50"+ now, not seeing as many 40" options like the past

[@PainterVierax]

@@alexandrusava642 easy fix is pushing the brightness to its maximum. The PWM signal should be a straight line so no flicker anymore. Other than that, using continuous voltage instead of PWM is possible. I guess good old incandescent light bulbs give you eye strain as they flicker at 50/60Hz only.

[@ltong1999]

You give the best explanations about the different TVs, Oled, Qled, Mini and what not. Hard to really understand the technology, but I got the general idea. Thanks so much from HK.

[@Bwolf12]

I love my LG CX 48' so the upgrade would have to be very dramatic

[@xxgalaxyskyxx141]

I love myncx 65

[@Reyeston007]

Facts

[@sinbeforeme3172]

2021 won't offer any dramatic changes only cheap gimmicks to push newer devices with minimal differences. The only "upgrade" to 2021 is the Sony X90J if you're looking to upgrade from an old device but imo LG CX is still king.

[@marco2982]

Still on my 1080p Edge-LED from ~2011. OLED would be nice to have but i hesitate spending 1300 Euro+ as i rarely watch TV nowadays

[@nerovanguard846]

No, it's not. Micro LED now that could turn the entire industry to a whole new level but that's plenty of years from now

[@Adam-vx6to]

I mean technically it’s now. There are home installs of it. But for mass market it’s certainly years away

[@reclaimer1178]

@@Adam-vx6to yeah technically if you're a millionaire it's available.

[@janderson7459]

lcd is already so good you cant tell the difference in a dim lit room. unless the content is made for oled which there is barley any you cant tell unless its in a pitch black room.

[@bruthayoshi2111]

Got the CX oled 65" and freaking love it. Best viewing and gaming experience I've ever had

[@Archemik99]

Glad to hear it, I've just ordered mine, it's 55" tho

[@UgonHarleev]

Hey Ya Duduki, I'm sorry that you ordered OLED, my TV OLED burned out after 2 years of use, stains appeared in the center and in the corner of the screen. I wait for Microled from Phillips, OLED in the trash.

[@VegitoBlackityBlack]

@@UgonHarleev Stains? That's image retention.

[@RJ-cv2uw]

Any burn in?

[@bruthayoshi2111]

@@RJ-cv2uw none at all! Still best decision I ever made

[@silverwatchdog]

Times have changed a little this year. I managed to get the 48" C1, for just under $1000. The pricing is definitely heading in the right direction and I definitely think its kind of in the mainstream price range now. It was a black "Friday" (was actually the whole of November) deal but still, it's one of the best deals on TVs I have ever gotten. I had a 2020 TU7000 ($450) before as my main monitor temporarily after building my PC because of budget constraints (Don't worry it's not wasted - it's in a different room now) and the OLED is definitely more than twice as good, especially for gaming! It's one of those rare times when I felt like I robbed the store!

[@overnightdelivery]

Whoa it was $999? Got one for $1100 on the last day of December. It's back up to $1300 for now.

[@silverwatchdog]

@@overnightdelivery in South Africa it was for November that price. I think they where being highly aggressive with sales. Literally every place that sold them where discounting them to that price. But still $1100 is still a pretty great price and isn't that much more. Now though it's back up to the retail price, which is $1300.

[@j800r_aswell]

Already got the CX a few days back and I'm loving it. Expect/hope for it to last me until MicroLED becomes viable and affordable in the mass market as that would almost certainly be worth buying a new set for.

[@RobertK1993]

Not going be for 10 years min

[@dariomladenovski7047]

LOOOOL your oled will burn in in 2 years, talking about waitint till MICROLED 😂😂😂 you will change 3 OLEd TV's by then

[@koflerkohime2981]

In November 2018 I purchased a Samsung Q9FN 75" (QLED). I have been very happy with it and I just saw this video on it! Still quite an amazing TV - backlight on level 50 lights up my living room like a tiny sun. I am also very happy about the external One Connect Box. The design is perhaps a bit dated for a "flagship" model today. In the future, perhaps 2 years from now, I might replace it with new tech. It seems it might not be OLED.

[@Loopan68]

I bought the same one at the same time but in 65" and it is the lack of an external connect box what kept me away from buying an LG OLED till today! I want to be able to mount my tv gapless to the wall and connect all my equipement to that external box! So as long as LG don't give me that possibility I stuck with my Samsung-QLED or switch to a mini LED from Samsung as soon as it's available

[@harrison00xXx]

i didnt get why this Samsung LCDs were that expensive and didnt even support 4k120Hz/Gsync. I got for half the price of a QLED a OLED with a better and faster smart TV software and ofc a better picture quality, especially in modes where the QLED dont use local dimming or for proper HDR stuff

[@mewyattt]

Haven't you all seen old Sci-fi movies? CRT gonna make a comeback, baby.

[@AysahSpades]

I would absolutely LOVE that, 4K CRT with ZERO LAG and inbuilt variable refresh rate. YES PLEASE

[@jc.1191]

😂 And giant computers that display 1980's graphics as well for some reason.

[@eventhorizon2873]

crt sucks. you life in the past. glad we left it behind i say this as a 47 year old man

[@johnphillips7562]

Can't beat a good old CRT Plasma TVs still beat out any mini led TV

[@Zerobob26]

I'm glad you mentioned the local dimming algorithm, because it's absolutely KEY to mini LED technology working, and is an IMPOSSIBLY BIG processing overhead. I think the mini LED TVs we'll end up with will be far from perfect, and OLED will remain the only solution for great contrast. It's just such an elegant technology.

[@peoplez129]

It shouldn't have a big processing overhead. You'd just analyze the frame, and activate them based on a specific brightness level. It's as easy as creating a mathematical curve to compensate for color differences. The REAL problem is it's still never going to be as good as OLED. And the only real problem for OLED is making panels with 100% functioning pixels. All companies really need to do is to segment panel production into smaller more efficient groups to lessen production losses on large screens. So for example, making only 100x56 pixel panels (for 16:9 resolution), and allowing them to be stacked/plugged in side by side. This can be done virtually seamlessly by testing each panel part before assembling it onto a substrate that will be the screen covering, which will ensure everything is seamlessly lined up. So a pixel on a 100x56 OLED panel is bad? You throw it out, with a very small loss, maybe you lose 50 cents in production cost instead of $500 for having to throw out 4K pixels worth of screen because some pixels are dead. This would make OLED infinitely cheaper, and modular, allowing them to use a single fabrication process to make every type of screen resolution.

[@amesasw]

Every passing year makes it more evident that LED cannot replicate per pixel illumination. Just cant go back to how bad black and bloom looks on LEDs.

[@soreloser6018]

@@amesasw I think you may be surprised how difficult it is to tell mini led apart from OLED. Apple is using it on their new iPad pro.

[@socialreport2836]

@@soreloser6018 On iPad Pro it's not that difficult to tell, if it is LCD or OLED but purely based on a bright scene, maybe yes it's not simple but iPad Pro uses IPS+mini leds, so an expected contrast between dimming zones is around 4000:1-6000:1. It's not enough. The modern tv sets VA+mini leds have got around 20000:1 contrast ratio, it's quite good.

[@socialreport2836]

@@amesasw Yes and no. In very dark scenes there is a blooming, no question but such scenes are very rare (like star field, face contours or human figures at deep night), maybe around 15-60 sec per movie. In relatively dark scenes it's already very difficult to tell, if it is mini leds at work or OLED. 20000:1 contrast between dimming zones is not a joke.

[@foxhound_YT]

Micro LED will be hugely more expensive than OLED and it will be for a long time.

[@mistamaog]

Micro LED yes but not mini LED

[@thenonexistinghero]

Problem is that contrast is the one advantage that OLED has above LED. Currently, I'd say OLED is a dying technology. In a few years, those who want a premium experience will go for Micro LED. And those who don't have the money for that will go for Mini LED, which is significantly cheaper than OLED and will offer a contrast almost as good, while having far higher brightness. LG seems to be trying to make OLED cheaper, but it's taking them a while and whether they can offer the same quality as current OLED panels remains to be seen (though I think it's likely that they won't). Even then it'll likely still be more expensive than Mini LED. I don't really see OLED overcoming its barriers before LCD technology catches up. Maybe if there were a ton of companies making OLED screens, but LG is pretty much the only major one.

[@Adam-vx6to]

@@thenonexistinghero oled is in no way a dying tech. It’s in every premium tv and phone. It’s the dominant premium display tech and will be for many more years until microled is developed for mass market

[@savannahkorben7353]

@@thenonexistinghero "LG seems to be trying to make OLED cheaper, but it's taking them a while and whether they can offer the same quality as current OLED panels remains to be seen" uhh bro you do realize LG supplies the OLED panels for other companies, right? Sony uses LG panels for instance...

[@ernestohernandez9370]

@@thenonexistinghero oled is not a dying technology what are you talking about?? 🤔it still has the best picture quality on tvs. it is still a few yrs away until micro led will become affordable. at the very least oled has like 3 or 4 good yrs to go and they might make a big improvement to oled tech too I the next few yrs there is going to be QD oled tvs in maybe 2022 or 2023.

[@kubarejden]

Im using LG CX for now. I think I have some time to next change. :)

[@colinparks619]

4 to five years

[@xxgalaxyskyxx141]

Me too

[@elpepelucho]

what do you use for those amazing 'screensavers' ?

[@tyyroque]

I’m using the Samsung Q90T. I at first got the LG CX and was extremely disappointed with its dimness. It was unwatchable. The Q90T is fantastic though it does have a slight blooming or blossoming issue. Not a deal breaker though

[@chris61670]

Still have my Panasonic V10 58 inch plasma I bought back in April 2010.. Great picture and no burn in.

[@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter]

LMAO! No that's not a 'great picture.' That's literally last century technology that can only reach 1080p. Thanks for the laugh though. Did you genuinely not realize that even 4K is a huge increase in picture quality over anything that's just HD? So funny.

[@chris61670]

@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter Sure it is. Plasmas on the higher end had great pictures. They are not the OLEDS of today but they have great colors and good contrast levels. Now if you actually comprehended what I was saying was I still like mine and never compared mine to the newer technology so before you try to be a smartass try actually paying attention what you read.

[@BigMeechDannn]

My Pansonic VT30 plasma has screen burn now. Glad yours is still going!

[@RobertK1993]

Sony Bravia OLED TVs no burn in better ball levels than QLED Sony Bravia Trlumnios LED TVs and Mini LED.

[@joveblue]

Would love to see some numbers on how many dimming zones are in Mini-LED TV’s. Hard to find out this info but one figure I saw was ~790 in a 55” Samsung. Which is… OK? Not in the thousands though.

[@blackhoggaming]

I don’t really watch tv that often, but the one in my living room is a regular 1080p LCD. The monitor I use is 4k, though

[@stevenbulman9058]

I've got LG B6 Oled tv, I've had it from new and it is stuffing from Burn in. You can see were sky tv has been paused. Its probably taken its toll over time.

[@AndrewB23]

I wanted oled because of the black levels, I fell in love when I seen the hdr and the way lights looked natural and it even gives objects in my room their own shadows, it brings immersion to another level.

[@CameronKiesser]

I like to keep brightness levels low anyway. It's the blacks that makes OLED the top dog in my opinion.

[@michaell.445]

If I turned my B9 up all the way it would hurt my eyes.

[@Mart-E12]

Yeah playing Forza Horizon 4 in HDR the car headlights are shining in my room the effect is just crazy

[@zac1567]

What's the difference between buying from Amazon or best buy? Price is about $500 difference for the oled

[@tropictom5996]

Just bought X900h this past holiday. I think it has less than 40 dimming zones but Sony’s processing does a good job. I game heavily with screens that have static elements so I didn’t want to chance OLED. I’m hoping to ride this Sony out to the point where microLED becomes mass market.

[@DadsDomain]

I got a Sony A8H OLED this year knowing it might be my first and last OLED. If LG uses IPS Panels on their Mini LED I don't think I'd be interested, but Samsungs Mini LED will be interesting and I'll be curious to see the pricing.

[@nathanpickering6742]

Why would it be your last OLED?

[@dan4871]

I've got the 55' nanocell 79. Mainly use it for gaming and have been very impressed.

[@Jswervo215]

Must’ve been an over sized load delivery

[@stephenmeinhold5452]

looking for a new TV is a nightmare these days with all the fancy jargon so start with what size you want or need its the most important thing. eg if your living room is 15 feet from one side to the other you will need an 75"-80" TV if you get a 65" it will be to small. the second thing is the same as it ever was, native smooth motion, a lot of TVs have clever software to smooth it out but in native mode there is blurring in fast movement. the best way to ensure smooth movement is haveing a very fast quad prossesor and a high refresh rate. basicly the cheep 4K TVs will have that problem and have a 50hz panel and a slower CPU-GPU so look very carefully at the specs the minimum is a quad core chip and a 60hz panel.

[@GK-ye3fr]

Great show! When you start getting some of these new models in for review, could you please cover using the TVs as monitors. Mainly, show examples of TEXT. This is an area often just briefly touched on by reviewers. Showing a full page of text would be great, so we can see what it looks like.

[@Tom--Ace]

I just got a c1 48" as a monitor, I sit about 60cm away. Text looks great, like a normal monitor. It really is the best monitor (leaving aside burn in risk)

[@stewartj00701]

I had a 2017 lg oled for 3 years till it failed, very impressed with the picture at first, but after a year it had the netflix logo and KZbin logo clearly burned into the screen and a large blotch in the centre of the screen discoloured from burn in, so sadly for me burn in was a huge issue. Used on stock settings.

[@DennisSchmitz]

Sadly the 2018 panels were the first ones with all the bells and whistles when it comes to burn in prevention.

[@djsilverline69]

Burn in is indeed a major issue for OLED's, especially after the 1.5 - 2 year mark. Many that I know have had burn in issues and now it's finally happened to me. A good 30% of the red pixels around the center of my 65" C7 have started fading slowly over time. It's left very noticeable blotches and is also making white skin tones look a pale zombie green. Everywhere else looks totally fine, just not in the middle of the display. I've been running pixel refresher at all the recommended times and have also been very cautious about static images. My guess is that a static blob from people talking center screen has formed over time. So OLED buyers beware. I'm excited about these new TV's though. Glad to see comparable options come to market because I didn't want to go OLED again for my replacement.

[@krehbein]

That’s a good real world experience that seems more relevant then LG saying burn in only happens in certain cases of watching the same content hours on end.

[@googIesux]

Yeah the way they downplay burn-in without actually making hard statements is very telling. It's frankly not a marketable tech to anyone who cares whether a TV is disposable, and OLEDS are disposable. They know it happens, and they legally say as much.

[@thomasaichele9882]

Das Problem ist das sie den pixelrefresher regelmäßig benutzt haben. Man sollte den TV auch nicht vom Strom trennen, da er im Standby Modus die Pixel kalibriert. Der pixelrefresher sollte nur benutzt werden wenn etwas eingebrannt ist.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@krehbein it shouldn't even matter if someone were to "watch" the same content for hours. All of these OLEDs have a PC mode and we all know that a PC has a plethora of static interfaces. I've had deniers (99% sure they're KZbin users being paid by manufacturers) tell me not to use the TV in a wrong way and it won't happen. Essentially, the way they were approaching this issue was a margin away from genuine online bullying. With that said, OLEDs clearly don't have a long lifespan when it comes to their optimal operating conditions.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

Zero burn-in on my C9 after 3 years with heavy usage + PC usage + PS4 Pro and PS5 gaming for tons of hours with HUD at high brightness. I feel sorry for people still thinking OLED has burn-in issues. LCD has TONS of issues, which are present on DAY ONE. This is why OLED is used in all flagship products now, except for Samsung which still scams it's customers with garbage LCD, however they are doing MicroLED and OLED soon too. My C9 looks as impressive today as it did 1st time I turned it on. Jawdropping image quality. Never ever going back to LCD thats for sure. LCD will be considered entry level only soon. Cheap and dated tech which relies 100% on proper backlighting but even with FALD and tons of zones it does not even come close to OLED (but costs more when FALD with several hundred zones are used). Sad but true. LCD is a joke.

[@SaladinSnake88]

I've just got the LG CX 65" and will be keeping it for another 6-7 years! No need upgrading anytime soon!! 🙌👌🔥

[@fredyfredo2724]

Av1 codec will force u to change

[@SaladinSnake88]

@@fredyfredo2724 Nope. Nice try though. 👏😂😂

[@fredyfredo2724]

@@SaladinSnake88 it's not a trap. It's the standard in april. U will be unable to watch netflix in 8k

[@reclaimer1178]

@@fredyfredo2724 8k is not worth it unless there are added bonuses. There needs to be something revolutionary like HDR that comes with it.

[@RagedroxX]

in 2 or 3 years, its probably that tv has burn in

[@Turkey936]

The bit that is rarely covered in miniled videos the fact that picture quality and local dimming takes an absolute nose dive when put into game mode. All the advanced algorithms have to be neutered in order to achieve low input lag so you lose very thing you pay for. This is not the case with OLEDs

[@gangnamchild6310]

Not with sony ✌🏻

[@TheOneandOnlyCornBread]

@@gangnamchild6310 Yes, that includes Sony. All LED TVs turn off local dimming when in game mode by default. That or input lag will be in the 300+ millisecond range.

[@5Rivers79]

E7 that has image retention for a second time. This time it’s black bars from watching blurays and 4K discs. I love the image quality Oled provides but it’s not exactly bullet proof. Maybe time for a change?

[@HomeworkRadio]

I'm trying to get my LG oled repaired atm, I wont be buying one again anytime soon so i'm pleased to see this video! Screen burn* 🔥

[@zantesh]

Same but I could never go back to LCD. I'll get it repaired on my 5yr warranty as many times as it takes. And only buy a new one if it comes with a similar warranty.

[@HomeworkRadio]

@@zantesh I'm waiting to see if they do it :/ I heard the position of the electronics inside can actually speed up the process and looking at my set this does check out! I've said this to them, time will tell. It's a B7

[@JoseByronGonzalez]

How long and what conditions took place before you saw burn-in? I'm almost ready to pull the trigger but while I watch mainly movies my wife's viewing habits, I'm afraid would lead to it. And she watches a lot more TV than I do.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Once you go OLED though , it's really hard to go back. Brightness on OLEDs is different though. When I max brightness on my OLED , it seers my eyeballs , NOT because it's too bright , but because it's so vivid and rich. Brightness on LCD is just brighter , but not brighter than OLED , it's just brighter and washed out.

[@zantesh]

@@JoseByronGonzalez Edit: Got my TV back a week later from teamknowhow. The panel has been replaced with the new CX 10 series panel. Works great, has its original glow back. Well my burn in happened just after the first year of heavy use, maybe 10 hours per day, I tried not to use it for gaming or for pc use, as a lot of static objects. Then out of the blue, with no prior warning, I start to see a discoloured blob on more yellow scenes, in the center of the screen about 20cm across. From what i've read, its something to do with the board components getting hot and damaging the oled. If your going to buy one of these amazing screens, make sure you get a good solid warranty. I have a really good ips lcd screen next to the lg c9 and it doesnt even touch it, however the LCD was miles better than my old tv.

[@KeyserSoeze]

LG OLED55B7V, bought it at end of 2017 for around 1200€. Wanted OLED and 4k, and price was kind of good. Feels like it was a good time to buy, nothing much have happent since then and the prices are around the same still.

[@Wistbacka]

Just purchased (still waiting for delivery) LG C9. Chose C9 over CX for brighter panel (and less aggressive ABL), DTS support, and true HDMI 2.1. the only thing I miss from CX is 120 hz BFI, but according to end users it is apparently not that necessary due to the near instant pixel response time of OLEDs. This will be the first TV I ever own/purchase (only had parents' TV before) Next TV will be MicroLED for sure. But that is some significant time in the future. 😅

[@rufio86]

I love OLED, however I got burn in on my E7, logo on bottom right and left through normal viewing and pixel shift etc enabled. LG have added a logo dimming feature to newer models but I was surprised how easily it happened given how unlikely people say it is.

[@space0015]

7 and 6 series were burn in tvs.

[@-Yurkey]

I just upgraded from a pos Skyworth UHD LED smart TV to a Philips 4k UHD LED performance series Android TV... Honestly, the picture is awesome even tho it's just LED and the "ambilight" feature is something I didnt know I wanted 😂... It has all one needs of the essentials (youtube, netflix rokuten tv come as standard) , chromecast is built in and since it is Android everything you need Google Play offers (I even have a wireless controler for a spot of gaming on ye ol telly 😂)... Simply brilliant, see no real reason to go OLED or MINILED

[@dannykl6883]

What model is it please? I’m thinking about buying a Phillips ambilight for my apartment in Spain

[@-Yurkey]

@@dannykl6883 TV 43" Philips 43PUS8545 Android Ambilight 👍

[@ITpanda]

Which ever has the higher PPI while maintaining or improving current best contrast ratio available, would be where I would spend the money l. For me a 42" at 4k is much better than a 65" at the same resolution due to the higher PPI it offers. Anyone else feel this way?

[@mistamaog]

I actually went from a 49" 4K TV to a 65" 4K TV almost 2 years ago, and the ppi hasn't been an issue at all. I'm actually loving the bigger size, even though I'm using it in my personal bedroom.

[@ITpanda]

@@mistamaog how far away from tv are you sitting? I have a vary small house and at most would be 8' from surface of the screen. Sitting at coach about 6'

[@MichaelSchiffelers]

I just bought a LG CX 55" And verry happy with it! Combined with the Xbox seriesX :) I will wait a wile befor buying a new mini or micro led tv.

[@savannahkorben7353]

yeah it's going to be a solid 10 years before micro LED is available at good prices, these youtube guys are skipping way ahead with this shit

[@MichaelSchiffelers]

@@savannahkorben7353 👌 i agree. But i am happy with what has to come.. in yeah lets say 10years for me 😉

[@reclaimer1178]

@@savannahkorben7353 yeah it's a disservice really. I just bought an oled and I'm glad I did. I almost didn't because these clowns had me sold on waiting for microled. Don't get me wrong, that tech will be awesome, but I'm not waiting a decade to buy a premium set.

[@strausszen1215]

Still haven't been able to look up a purchasable microLED TV...

[@mgsamps]

I really don't get this obsession with brightness lately, I have a 2020 HZ2000 OLED and never have my luminance above 70% and contrast at 80%, more than that and it burns my eyeballs out.

[@randyphillips1617]

I got an oled! And I never looked back! I'm on my 2nd oled! Upgraded from the 55inch C9 to a 65inch GX! My advice to people is get one for yourself and not listen to everyone else. My C9 is still running strong! No burn in, no nothing! 😉

[@regineurtegard5460]

If they could reduce size of backlight leds, but that would require some large steps in tech. Oled is still the best by far. Burn in is not a big issue per today and bright rooms can always be adjusted to some extent. Even the price point of Oleds are way better than what they were.

[@The-illuminated]

You dont need more than 8k tv guarantee unless watching on giant screen. 4k is enough and tough

[@regineurtegard5460]

@@The-illuminated never stated that you need 8k, though i agree.

[@regineurtegard5460]

@@simpleboy3457 i know many people isn't going to get you far. Give me a graph where production year, type of usage and brand is weighted. Then I'll consider your statement. EDIT: After a reread i realise my statement is as factless as yours. So no need to bring up numbers.

[@arvindmenon6265]

Planning to buy a 85” Tv. Any suggestions??

[@keptick]

The application of these new technologies for monitors is also pretty exciting. Right now OLED is kind of a no-go because of the risk of burn in with all the static elements present on a pc screen. Something like micro-led in a monitor would be a gigantic upgrade in picture quality compared to even high end lcd screens currently available.

[@RicochetForce]

Bingo. Just the massive PC market is going to give Mini-LED and Micro-LED the leg up for market dominance. As you said, PC use cases have so many goddamn static elements that you're extremely likely to cause if not burn in, really ugly image retention. And things like Automatic Backlight Limiters are a no-go for PC use. That would be hugely disruptive and distracting. It also doesn't help that OLEDs do not have better text reproduction than LCDs due to their RGBW subpixel structure.

[@StopWars420]

Whenever I see people saying they want to use a 40" OLED as a monitor I shudder

[@jdoyle4811]

@@StopWars420 LG does not make a 40" TV and Sony makes a 48" (the smallest) which they buy the panels from LG

[@jdoyle4811]

Have to agree to disagree that OLED's are no go because of risk of burn in on TV but maybe that is not the case with PC, Biggest upgrade on quality picture image TVs is to buy the OLED itself from LG as Sony, Samsung, and Vizio supply in some models but panels supplied by LG. With prices dropping significantly in US (6 months after this video) for LG OLED not seeing the reason to jump into mice-LED.

[@TheOneandOnlyCornBread]

Linus from Linus Tech Tips has used an LG CX 48 inch as a monitor for 2 years and he has zero image retention

[@jamesfoster7775]

3:31....i want to know what settings you use! My series X looks nothing like that what so ever, but instead dull and greyed out. Naff.

[@cesarfaz2509]

Just got the BX. It is amazing!

[@behzadnazari1946]

How many inches was TV in the 2:00 when the flight similator was shown?

[@vinnysagar]

Ah you young kids. This was the same discussion 10 years ago with plasma or PDP tvs, they offered better picture and deeper blacks compared to LCD but they eventually died out.

[@GazzaDazzle]

Lol you sound like 90 years old, but then you said only 10 years ago lol. Sounds like u still 15 haha

[@overnightdelivery]

@@GazzaDazzle Most kids do think 10 years is a long time. I'm 40 and to me 10 years ago seems like last year.

[@Dan89201]

Tv I’m using atm a cheap 40” JVC led and what would make me upgrade, better bank balance

[@trw4war322]

😂😂😂

[@michaell.445]

No prob with my brightness on my B9 I bought last year.

[@mayotube84]

Can someone tell me what's the light on the back of the TV at 1:51?

[@yogeshkadam7254]

congrats for 1 million sub

[@skeptical_Inquirer200]

If you watch a lot of 4:3 material with black (sometimes white) bars on the side, might you cause burn-in on a OLED TV?

[@adamzeman4787]

Meanwhile I'm still using plasma TV.

[@paulohanlon714]

Meanwhile I'm still using a CRT 🤣🤣🤣

[@galaxydave69]

Ive got oled but man I miss my Panasonic plasma

[@Rickline84]

And I'm Still using my Panasonic plasma ZT60

[@galaxydave69]

@@Rickline84 had a gt and zt and both amazing and still handled standard content better than the oleds ive had I reckon

[@Rickline84]

@@galaxydave69 thanks for that . I think I'll wait a bit before buying OLED

[@Eadwin]

I still can't wrap my head around TCLs. I didn't know them until last year and now they dominate everything?

[@paulslingo]

I think it used to be Sharp but changed name or was brought out by another company, but I am not 100 percent positive on that.

[@nickdial8528]

They have bad quality control. Go on best buy and read customer reviews or go on the forums. TCL is having problems where their screens die. No joke. I was going to buy a 6 series,until I read people angry over their screens going out.

[@syedrahman4322]

Congrats on the 1 million brother, you definitely deserve it for the beautiful, informational and visually pleasing videos!

[@dittujoju9371]

I bought my lg led cs 55" after seeing one of your videos. And its the best thing I bought in the last 10 years.

[@atticsf]

cant wait to see TCL 6 series this year, hopefully they keep the prices down

[@liggerstuxin1]

Did you end up getting it? I ended up getting it but I returned it because the years previous was good enough. I can ride rat not getting it though because it has 120 Hz

[@JonteJak]

I'm using a LG OLED E9. I would like to get a newer and better one but as you said. The progress each year isn't that big. I'm still waiting for something grand to happen before i upgrade.

[@honecode2120]

I think a lot of OLED innovation has been in transparent panels, bendable/rollable, and they’ve been getting thinner. LG display showed off a prototype of a bendable TV so you can have a curved tv for gaming and a flat TV for movies all in one. We’ll see if any tv manufacturers actually pick that up though. LED/LCD innovation is focused on catching up to OLED picture quality while OLED innovation is mostly focused on form factor.

[@3ric908]

Hi, i’m not fluent and it ins’t easy. Very short simple question please : what is best as monitor (3d, unreal enfine, and basics as mail..), oled or miniled ? I look for the C1 in 8 or 42 with the cess now, or equivalent in miniled.. Thank you for eventual repply.

[@mymika1989]

Loving OLED but one of the biggest weakness is also the reflection. In your video you see the reflection of you lightning and when you standing playing on ps5. So if mini led have the same or almost the same darkness thrn de mini led is far better for almost every user. Because not many people have a very dark room where they watch tv

[@Antibackgroundnoise]

Bang on mate! If one owns a OLED one should consider the lighting in ones room! That's why I took my lighting reflections damn serious. If you click on the dragon you can see how serious I took it!

[@satanpotato8927]

Quick question. LG C1 55" OLED 4K or One of Samsung's QLED TV's I know OLED will always be beast but in terms of having a potential sunlit room, will the OLED be okay for that sort of room?

[@OBAges]

This video really help looking at all the TVs in the market and the new lineups coming soon.

[@tobyninja6369]

For a new tv what do you recommend. I have a 11 year old lg led tv. I’m looking for 43-48 inch. Thanks

[@Nyxeme]

I have a LG CX - Do you know how fucking bright that thing gets? Why do manufacturers think we need MORE brightness?

[@jtotheizzh]

Just got mine today and was SHOCKED! The way people talk, I expected it to struggle with my windows. Instead I'm trying to figure out how to keep the menus from burning into my retinas!

[@Nyxeme]

@@jtotheizzh Right? I use a Samsung G7 as my pc monitor and have it at 30% brightness. Anything above gives me headaches.

[@lucasyork9196]

I have a lg cx 55inch and I’d be tempted to upgrade if the c1 also had increased brightness and better banding.

[@simons5484]

I'm waiting for Micro LED to be available to the mainstream for a decent price, I have a QLED at the moment the Q70R which is not the best but still a decent one until Micro LED is below $2000 for the 55 inch model. I hope they start making Mini LED monitors since we need that. LCD monitors are straight up garbage with extremely bad black uniformity and bad contrast even on the high end.

[@darrenhaken]

Hi,what is the TV cabinet you use in your lounge? I was just watching your OLED Vs Mini LED and I'm keen to know!

[@battlefieldclips7013]

I’m still happy with my legOledc6 curved n 3D, which is unique. P.S I had to dream fucking whole 2 years to buy it though.

[@xseeyah]

Just bought a LG CX 77inch...after watching this should I return it and wait for the Micro LEDs of next year or the 2021 LG CX?

[@sammitchell7310]

Yay more stuff some of us can’t afford

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

I'd say "most" of us. All these tech channels and gadget people are literally either selling to or feeding off the 1%

[@tlreclipse1126]

at least it will be in stock

[@jc.1191]

Ikr. I'm looking at the bottom rung as an upgrade. 😂

[@kkr6549]

I still use my Panasonic plasma TV. I bought it in the UK. Used it for 8 years in Italy and now live in the USA. Here I use a transformer to run it off 110V. I have not seen a TV yet that would tempt me to ditch my plasma screen.

[@gsrorive]

The end…? Virtually more than 95% of consumers are probably still rocking LCDs.

[@你是國王]

Oled is just so much better

[@gsrorive]

@@你是國王 Granted, but “normal” people aren’t on the same A-train is what I meant. It’s funny to call it “passé” when the average consumer didn’t even fully embrace OLED. It’d be like calling 8K the new normal when most people are just fine consuming 1080P / the media providers don’t broadcast much more than 1080P for the average Joe.

[@Thetechchap]

End of OLED, not LCD is the premise.

[@你是國王]

@@Thetechchap but every year oled gets cheaper so at some point people might just start to buy oled instead and just spend a bit extra especially at the 48-55” bracket.

[@TheMetalheart10]

@@你是國王 not.... to dull. My Q90R is better. 👍

[@lewis523]

Is the LG 55" CX good for my first ever OLED? haven't got the money for a bigger one or different series. Plus added the fact I dont know what previous OLED models are like to compare to.

[@ZeDarkLord]

"Regular people have LED/LCD TV." Me, an intellectual who has Plasma TV,. "Yeah, it's Big Bren time."

[@tazboy1934]

Lol

[@db95gt]

I miss my Panasonic plasma RIP.

[@ZeDarkLord]

@@db95gt I've got an LG Plasma working for like almost 8 years now. It has got burn-in in it. But it's fine.

[@db95gt]

@@ZeDarkLord I have terrible luck with TV's. After our plasma died we watched TV on a laptop or my gaming pc for a couple years. Finally decided to buy a new one and it died within 3 months. luckily warranty covered the replacement. TCL may be a cheap tv brand but I'm impressed with their customer service.

[@ZeDarkLord]

@@db95gt Damn bruv, that's hard. But it's good that warranty is a thing or else it'd have been tough. All my life which is kinda short of only 2 decades we have had only 2 TVs. The first one was a CRT 17 odd inches TV. That we used for almost 15 years and we gave it away and this has been working fine. Just one time we faced an issue with the display and it was resolved. I guess this TV will work well for atleast another year or so.

[@Jeremyspoptart]

@thetechchap I have an LG EC9300 OLED. Would a C1/G1 or A90J blow my mind in terms of upgrades? Or should I wait for Sony’s QD-OLED? Thanks again. Love your programs.

[@honecode2120]

Going to have to wait for micro-led if you want to match the quality of OLED. I’ll probably give micro-led a shot when it comes around at a reasonable price but I’m sticking with OLED for now. OLED tech itself seems like it could be cool for futuristic display stuff(windows that are also displays, a display that wraps around your wrist). The innovation in OLED is in areas not really needed in TVs such as the bendable and transparent displays. P.S. loving my 55” LG CX. I honestly watch more content than ever before just because I want to admire the tv lol

[@jeffgoldstein1000]

I purchased several months ago a TCL 75inch 635 unit that I love. when the newer TCL 85 inch comes out with their newer mini led I up switch to that,

[@naythanjones2320]

I’ve been gaming on OLEDs exclusively since July 2018. Had an LG B8 for a couple years till I got an LG CX 48. Always had top tier GPU to enjoy them and can’t go back to anything else. Even if the TV burns in after thousands of hours of use i’ll feel like i got my money’s worth. Any other display is just trash in comparison.

[@gazza82]

What's the screen saver on the set in the background? Is that built into the TV?

[@awlonghurst]

And no burn-in. But I still love my LG OLED

[@rpospeedwagon]

The best 👌

[@sebastienderidder5418]

I would like to know how high you mounted your tv on the wall. And haw far is your seating position? TNX

[@sebastienderidder5418]

I see you had the same media cabinet with the 65" CX. and with the 77"GX you raised the TV by a couple of cm. Isn't the viewing angle to high? I am asking because I am getting a 65" Sony A8 (got a 50" plasma now) and in order to fit my center speaker under the tv I have to raise the 65" A8 to 60cm at a viewing distance of 3 Meters. I am hesitating ... will I be able to see the bottom part of te screen comfortably. Nice video's by the way. keep up the good work !!!

[@neilrock7386]

Thinking of buying a tv, reckon I’ll go OLED... no wait, mini LED... no wait micro LED. If I buy this is nano LED going to come out? So confused when to finally spend my cash with full on replacement tech fear. 😩

[@reclaimer1178]

Microled should be the next tech that dethrones oled(providing oled tech levels off). Samsung is nowhere near ready to make that panel affordable to the masses. My guess is 8 years min before that happens. My gut tells me longer.

[@johnphillips7562]

Micro led is years away and will be way more expensive than oled which are coming down in price year by year. If you do get a led screen make sure it has a va panel with full array. I just returned a q90a which was mini led 50 inch. But Samsung decided to swap out the va for ips to save money 2019 qleds where better than anything now. Oled is the way to go. Unless you can find a old plasma. Don't be tricked into the fancy tech nonsense a good TV from 10 years ago will wipe the floor with most led garbage including mini led

[@williamj515]

Early LCD TV's were backlit using thin fluorescent tubes on each side and a translucent panel to spread the light across the LCD display. When the first LED backlit TV's came out, I feel as a marketing ploy, manufacturers called them LED TVs. Which in reality only described how the LCD display was lit. If this was always the case on how a TV was described, why weren't the first LCD TV's referred as Fluorescent TV's?

[@davejones538]

Don’t think I could go back to led tv 🤣 Sony 55 ag9 @ moment 👍

[@itsalex3631]

same here, this tv beats any other oled in the market right now with that overpowered x1 ultimate chip. plus it won king of TV, I don't think I need to upgrade for another 5 maybe 10 years🤔

[@Lyndonimus]

I'm on the af9. Not gonna upgrade for a long long time.

[@moyahaboserumula3192]

Got a 55" B9 OLED from LG and not in a hurry to upgrade. Maybe in 4 years time, but I'm happy with it thus far.

[@NickelninezRealOne]

3 friends all had burn on their oleds... Hate that everyone says it's a small chance.

[@swa99a10]

With oleds

[@Ramgopal5]

What do you recommend ,,,,,, GX series or CX series .... trying to get a 77” one and the difference in Deals is like $200 between them. Does GX really have something over the CX series ? Can potentially get GX for 3100 CX for 2900

[@josevinicius7470]

Uma nova imersão da imagem e som ainda melhores

[@krucial88]

Pretty soon it's gonna be all OLED and mini/micro led TVs in everyone's house which I wonder whats to come after that can it get any better?

[@SuperSaf]

FIRST!

[@fa_iz_13]

Nope ur not 😁

[@Thetechchap]

Wow that was fast 😅

[@SuperSaf]

@@Thetechchap that’s what she said!

[@StevePlaysSteveplaysyotube]

@@fa_iz_13 heheh

[@jojorabbit61]

@@SuperSaf so does it mean you didn't lasted 😂

[@marjanp]

Does Mini LED still have much slower pixel response time compared to OLED?

[@shaggymike03]

I am using LG CX 55" as a PC Monitor.

[@fr3ddy1461]

I recently purchased a 65’ Vizio OLED for $1500. Which I thought was a deal.. until I just seen the 85’ TCL QLED for the same price. If Mini LED is indeed close to OLED than I would assume the TCL is the better deal because it’s way bigger right?