Is Nadu the best commander from Modern Horizons 3? cEDH Gamplay NADU v KINNAN v ATRAXA v KRARKASHIMA

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Things in the Ice

Things in the Ice

Күн бұрын

Is that a bird? A plane? A consistent value engine of ramp and card advantage? Oh it's just a bir--OH GOD NO
Shoutout to the Nadu discord! You can join the discussion here: / discord
John on Nadu: www.moxfield.c...
Jeremy on Kinnan: www.moxfield.c...
Kyle on Atraxa: www.moxfield.c...
Seth on Krark/Sakashima: www.moxfield.c...
#edh #cedh #mtg

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@vincentfeng9802
@vincentfeng9802 3 ай бұрын
so for krark flips, you have to choose the same mode, so when you cast REB to counter the force of will, you have to keep picking counter blue spell for the copies, you cant change it to destroy target blue permanent.
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
Ooo good to know! Thanks for the heads up! I didn't mean that as a Krark pun, but I guess it kind of is 🤷
@ThingsintheIce-Seth
@ThingsintheIce-Seth 3 ай бұрын
Can't believe I missed that, good catch!
@AndyG3173
@AndyG3173 2 ай бұрын
Couple of things with Nadu: You can equip the same creature twice with Shuko and Umbral Mantle and save a little bit of time. You can also sac a second land to Sylvan Safekeeper in response to the first activation so you get 2 Nadu triggers off of a single creature. Not super mana efficient, but you get 2 Nadu triggers off of 1 creature if you need to dig.
@andyontaneda996
@andyontaneda996 3 ай бұрын
Btw you can equip the same creature multiple times
@GerBessa
@GerBessa 3 ай бұрын
+1 Only Lightning greaves need to swap between creatures because of shroud.
@mikedite
@mikedite 3 ай бұрын
Nadu's awesome you guys, you showcased it great too. Btw I love to see Seth use the Trigger tokens, I uploaded them on mpcfill some time ago and didn't see them in the wild yet.
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Seth loves those trigger tokens. Couldn't Krark without them.
@ThingsintheIce-Seth
@ThingsintheIce-Seth 3 ай бұрын
I've been playing with them for the better part of a year and they really help keep track of all the goings-on with Krark! Excellent work on the token.
@NotAWhaleAtAll
@NotAWhaleAtAll 3 ай бұрын
You could activate Sylvan Safekeeper twice for each creature if you wanted to (that turn before culling ritual), just do the second activation before the ability resolves and the creature gets shroud
@smack80
@smack80 3 ай бұрын
Snap on Nadu, it resets all the nadu triggers on all creatures.
@andyontaneda996
@andyontaneda996 3 ай бұрын
Btw if you hold priority on the sylvan safekeeper ability you can get two nadu triggers with the ability
@CodingLime
@CodingLime 3 ай бұрын
Loved that Nadu win! Really exited for that BIRD! But I'm worried that it will be a too much "durdly" of a deck/commander. Keeping an eye on decklists to see what brewers come up with!
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm excited too, I've already made a decent amount of changes to try and make it a bit more consistent
@brenoraffa2750
@brenoraffa2750 2 ай бұрын
I like deterministic games, on championships with time on it, that matters a lot. Nadu being a gigantic mega turn deck makes you stare at the wall for 30min, with 3 ppl not having fun while you need to gather everything. That’s the only reason I’m so sad it’s released, because it doesn’t do everything with the “parcial” combo cards
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 2 ай бұрын
I see your point but I have a Krarkashima player we play with and it's the same kinda thing. I think it's fun since the interaction points are very different from other decks.
@kennethritacco6959
@kennethritacco6959 3 ай бұрын
Should have snapped the flesh duplicant to replay and get another atraxa, draw more cards and then if it was dispelled, you have chord for backup
@FarNorthMtG
@FarNorthMtG 3 ай бұрын
Let’s go! Excited to see the bird in action
@untapupkeepdraw2003
@untapupkeepdraw2003 3 ай бұрын
13:42 how did Nadu got haste to attack after just been casted?
@smack80
@smack80 3 ай бұрын
nadu turns are 96 hours long so summoning sickness wears off
@untapupkeepdraw2003
@untapupkeepdraw2003 3 ай бұрын
@@smack80 hahahaha good one
@RafaelPanazzo
@RafaelPanazzo 3 ай бұрын
Nadu is the new Krarkashima. Requires too much brain power to me 🤣
@Gwenchicken
@Gwenchicken 3 ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoying the silly bird wizard. He's just a little guy.
@havardharaldsen332
@havardharaldsen332 3 ай бұрын
The Nadu-as-Commander is causing my brain to melt. I'll slot it in Derevi and be very content, thank you. Great game! (Also yes, the modes of REB must remain the same on copies, is a thing.)
@coolbeanzs
@coolbeanzs 3 ай бұрын
excellent video!
@smack80
@smack80 3 ай бұрын
25:20 you missed the trigger from the One Ring giving yourself protection from everything, so actually you don't have protection at 33:45. The c in cEDH stands for competitive, so competitive rules enforcement level applies
@benjaminmarcum8536
@benjaminmarcum8536 3 ай бұрын
The good: shared enthusiasm for flips and reveals off of Nadu was infeciouns and fun. It's obvious y'all are friends and also content creators. The bad: Nadu at a random table with a random person you haven't played with much looks to play miserable: "Is it second trigger?" "I can't remember, dude, you've drawn 13 and played five lands, I stopped paying attention five minutes ago". It's a solo play deck that demands attention or immediate concession if there are no answers, but a deterministic win isn't presented because you *could* spend 10 minutes just to watch a whiff. Thanks for the video, keep up the great work. I hope I don't see Nadu at any casual tables.
@ThingsintheIce-Seth
@ThingsintheIce-Seth 3 ай бұрын
It wasn't long into the first game that we realized we needed zone tokens or a dedicated playmat to track things that have been targeted 0, 1, or 2 times. It gets ugly quick, kinda like that much card advantage gets ugly quick!
@twi1ightknight
@twi1ightknight 3 ай бұрын
Unctus loot ability is not a may making your board blue means many draws maybe drawing out
@EduardO-gm7hx
@EduardO-gm7hx 3 ай бұрын
I thought Nadu's trigger effect only happens twice per turn per creature?
@Pechko
@Pechko 3 ай бұрын
My mind also went directly to a playmat with 3 vertical zones- 0, 1, and 2 targets so far this turn for each respective zone.
@andrewkelley6039
@andrewkelley6039 3 ай бұрын
Jyle i see your Mark Poole tokens.... respect
@coltonholder4649
@coltonholder4649 3 ай бұрын
Can you run Inskir through the gauntlet, I've had pretty good results from testing!
@lucasbirch5398
@lucasbirch5398 3 ай бұрын
You used a food chain mana to cast the one ring
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
Whoopsie!
@alanoftheinfinite
@alanoftheinfinite 3 ай бұрын
Awesome game! Looking forward to post MH3 games too lol
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Alan!
@ggangulo
@ggangulo 3 ай бұрын
should've mental mistepped that dispel on your chord. great game fellas. awesome win! Nadu is OP
@adbirk19
@adbirk19 3 ай бұрын
3-feri
@whattupmang
@whattupmang 3 ай бұрын
Yup this is the exact card I’m worried about from this set. Just so much value whether you like it or not. Love the channel y’all, earned a sub from me. Just started mine last month and hope y’all can check it out or get a game in soon! Peace ✌️
@johnweinhandl8890
@johnweinhandl8890 3 ай бұрын
Green bird !- for the algorithm
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
We pledge our lives to the dark master known as the algorithm.
@Tft220
@Tft220 3 ай бұрын
Can’t cast on ring off of food chain mana(sacrificed orc token to food chain, and used it to help cast one ring)
@mehassharpie
@mehassharpie 3 ай бұрын
I feel like this deck NEEDS a venerated rot priest.
@mehassharpie
@mehassharpie 3 ай бұрын
And maybe a lab maniac/ thassa'a oracle to protect yourself from Nadu dooing yourself to death
@albertburse6024
@albertburse6024 2 ай бұрын
@@mehassharpieNadu doesn’t draw cards so you won’t kill yourself by decking with Nadu, but having win conditions within the deck are always good
@jynx1345
@jynx1345 3 ай бұрын
Madi discord expired 😢 help
@Lumpyspacejams
@Lumpyspacejams 3 ай бұрын
So does anyone have a tally on Seth's flips 🤣
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if Seth wants to face that reality lol the cold hard numbers may not be too kind
@Rizso1
@Rizso1 3 ай бұрын
cant use foodchain mana to cast one ring
@brendanrobot1
@brendanrobot1 3 ай бұрын
I just noticed on turn 4 john paid 5 for Nadu and then swung with him. I wonder if anyone caught that.
@Skreddy331
@Skreddy331 3 ай бұрын
Birb.
@scott_raven
@scott_raven 3 ай бұрын
Damn, i wana build nadu nadu now 43:34
@akiraeverheart3325
@akiraeverheart3325 3 ай бұрын
Link to alter artist please?
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
instagram.com/vincent.veg.alter/
@VincentVegAlter
@VincentVegAlter 3 ай бұрын
​@@Thingsintheice thanks 😁
@lukecormier6913
@lukecormier6913 3 ай бұрын
Can't Nadu ability only trigger twice a turn or am I mis reading that?
@christianroberts1121
@christianroberts1121 3 ай бұрын
It's twice each turn, but each creature says that. Meaning each creature can trigger twice each turn
@erikShimizu-sx9cw
@erikShimizu-sx9cw 3 ай бұрын
17 minutes in I see a summoning sickness nadu swing for damage and food chain mana used to cast the one ring. I’m sure all the cards are good when you cheat 😬😬
@WALABOOSH
@WALABOOSH 3 ай бұрын
Yall should sell good/ bad d6
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
That's a great idea! We just started selling merch! That will have to be one of the items next on our list!
@Womping-Willow
@Womping-Willow 3 ай бұрын
Burb gud
@dragonfist
@dragonfist 3 ай бұрын
the list you gave for Nadu is not correct, we saw Carpet of flowers but it is not in the list?????
@dragonfist
@dragonfist 3 ай бұрын
also Roaring earth is not in this list
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
The list has changed a bit since we recorded this game, sorry!
@tdwpguy42
@tdwpguy42 3 ай бұрын
You don't have to equip to another creature. You can repeatedly equip to the same creature over and over.
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
The ability Nadu gives to creatures only triggers twice per turn for each creature, so to make the most of it you do need to keep attaching it to different creatures
@tdwpguy42
@tdwpguy42 3 ай бұрын
@Thingsintheice yeah but there are multiple points where you equip it to a creature that's already been targeted twice just to move it back to a new creature.
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
Fair enough, I see what you're saying now. Good thing to keep in mind!
@mrJanbenes
@mrJanbenes 3 ай бұрын
Except for the boots, those give shroud. but rest of the equipments are fair game :)
@Locdogbeastmode1
@Locdogbeastmode1 3 ай бұрын
Just for clarity, he was able to cast or target other creatures 2 times per turn as they had the ability to be targeted two times per turn as well? Has it been clarified that the ability limit itself is linked to each creature rather than the overall ability? If so, can someone drop the link where they were able to discern between the two?
@drew941
@drew941 3 ай бұрын
Read the card? I hear doing that explains the card.
@ThingsintheIce-Seth
@ThingsintheIce-Seth 3 ай бұрын
Nadu gives all creatures you control the ability. The limitation on triggering is on the creature itself, not Nadu. Furthermore, blinking Nadu 'resets' the limitation as all creatures lose the ability and regain it, so it's treated as a new instance of that ability. Blinking/flickering the creature itself would also reset the ability, but only for that creature.
@brendanrobot1
@brendanrobot1 3 ай бұрын
The card literally says CREATURES you control have this overpowered ability but we limit to twice a turn.
@Houororoiocoaonoe
@Houororoiocoaonoe 3 ай бұрын
Jeremy repping the Yaboi merch! Love me some Rebell stans
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
Yaboi is my spirit animal!
@alanrois7941
@alanrois7941 3 ай бұрын
Kinnan could have use worldly tutor to get nyx bloom and that makes infinite colorless mana with grim monolith. Greeeat game tho, new sub!
@crashdnc1585
@crashdnc1585 3 ай бұрын
Where do you get these dice from? i want so badly.
@Thingsintheice
@Thingsintheice 3 ай бұрын
They are from the Spike Feeders!
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