Is Once Saved Always Saved Biblical?

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@awalkthroughtorah6897
@awalkthroughtorah6897 6 жыл бұрын
I think we need to stop trying to aim for the bare minimum for Jesus, and start walking in a way that draws nearer to Jesus every choice we make.
@nicholas3354
@nicholas3354 6 жыл бұрын
Mindy, why do you say such a thing? It seems clear that you already aim for the truest because Christ is drawing you toward Him. You say "we", "stop", and "start". Believing what is true is the key. Speaking what is true is to offer Light. It's good to rejoice and be glad because Christ is our Good Shepherd. This may sound knit-picky, but "every choice we make" is to knit-pick. Also, Truth is sharper than any two-edged sword, and sharp is precise. I agree that we need to not aim for the bare minimum, but we cannot stop such if we have already been stopped from such by Christ. I agree that we should draw nearer to Him in every choice, but we can't start such if Christ has already started us on such. There is much talk of how not good enough we are, much warning. But we have been given eternal life. For many the time for warning is past and the time for encouragement is now. We will not be that nor do that which we do not believe. We are saved; let us encourage this belief so we will be and do as the saved shall be and do. I hope this encourages you, and I look forward to checking out your videos. Much love to you Mindy. Peace is yours in Yeshua Christ.
@unlearnthelies
@unlearnthelies 6 жыл бұрын
We should always be drawing closer to our Messiah and seeking to be more like Him
@dennishagans6339
@dennishagans6339 6 жыл бұрын
A walk that draws closer to Jesus means you are walking further away from the world. as I have drawn closer to Him, I have laid aside more weights that though they were not sin their weight was a hindrance to my walk, I do not want any strings tying me down to this world When Jesus comes, or I go by the way of the grave.
@flyingsourdough1619
@flyingsourdough1619 6 жыл бұрын
You cannot lose your salvation For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. - John 10: 28
@Vocal-Vegan
@Vocal-Vegan 5 жыл бұрын
Amen Amen Amen!!!
@hbrown6598
@hbrown6598 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t our work that got us saved. It was Jesus’s work. And he KEEPS us saved. We don’t keep ourselves saved.
@dominicochoa9925
@dominicochoa9925 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus's crucifixion is the means by which we may be forgiven. This doesn't mean that His sacrifice isn't enough to remove and forgive us for our sins, but it means that if we continue in sin and remain unrepentant, we can and will lose salvation. Good works go hand in hand in faith. There are a plethora of verses in Mark, Peter, and Matthew that say that we must strive for righteousness. Therefore, good works go hand in hand. We can be forgiven for our sins, but we should not live in them. This is not works based salvation. Righteousness is a lack of evil works. A lack of works. Faith and repentance still save. Repentance is not a work, because it is a work of God to forgive us for our sins. Salvation can be lost. It's a day by day task for a lifetime, not a lifetime that decides whether or not every previous day was enough
@rocknrollcowboy1620
@rocknrollcowboy1620 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominicochoa9925 once saved always save, if you could loose your salvation you could never get it back. God is not in heaven just blotting out your name everytime you sin & writing it back in when you become good little boys & girls again
@dominicochoa9925
@dominicochoa9925 2 жыл бұрын
@@rocknrollcowboy1620 you do realize that getting it back is called repentance right? What you're telling me isnt what Jesus and His Disciples taught. Repentance
@rocknrollcowboy1620
@rocknrollcowboy1620 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominicochoa9925 totally disagreeing with that
@thelegendofneo
@thelegendofneo 2 жыл бұрын
@@rocknrollcowboy1620 well you’re just disagreeing with the Bible sadly. Fear the Lord and have an honest heart man. Are you really trying to understand what the Bible says in it’s entirety or are you so attached to an idea you have that u want to fight for it tooth and nail even when so many things in the Bible contradict what you’re saying. This isn’t about how u see it or want to understand it. Ask God to show u the truth no matter what it is. Even if it’s against what you currently believe.
@CalCorbin888
@CalCorbin888 4 жыл бұрын
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
@SkyKingAzure
@SkyKingAzure 4 жыл бұрын
Free Choice means that you can remove YOURSELF from his Hand.
@XxlightxX
@XxlightxX Жыл бұрын
@@SkyKingAzure no you can't no man can you are sealed when believing. The category of believing is more strict than how others categorized it.
@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG
@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG Жыл бұрын
​@@SkyKingAzurewould you?
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 Жыл бұрын
@@XxlightxX this is a standard argument....the issue is salvation an event or a process....and a hint is that salvation is mentioned, in three grammatical tenses, past, present, and future...
@XxlightxX
@XxlightxX Жыл бұрын
@Philip Buckley once you believe in christ and grow on the good soil you're saved. Those who leave are not really one of us or they would've continued with us because it's undeniable.
@boynton20
@boynton20 3 жыл бұрын
The lord said he will never loose any whom the father as given to him . That's why I believe if someone is truly born of the spirit they cannot loose their salvation. I believe some believers are like the prodigal son at times believers get weak sometimes dry get discouraged fall away but God knows how to get them back on track. He will never loose anyone who truly belongs to him .
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 Жыл бұрын
salvation, in three grammatical tenses, why...
@legendarysouls8152
@legendarysouls8152 Жыл бұрын
He will never loose but you may loose yourself
@christopherneedham9584
@christopherneedham9584 Жыл бұрын
@@legendarysouls8152 ALL that the Father gives Me will come to me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent me. This is the will of Him who sent me, that of ALL that he has given me I lose NOTHING, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day. John 6:37-40
@chasedollars1643
@chasedollars1643 Жыл бұрын
​@@legendarysouls8152 God bless you
@echeneis2256
@echeneis2256 Жыл бұрын
@@legendarysouls8152 No creature shall separate us from the love of God
@melvinlewiswellsjr.2619
@melvinlewiswellsjr.2619 6 жыл бұрын
i think im gonna live my life like i could lose my salvation and stay near Jesus.....not by works but by faith and true faith creates good works
@cohencyrus5337
@cohencyrus5337 6 жыл бұрын
and through works we shall be judged
@robm567
@robm567 5 жыл бұрын
MELVIN LEWIS WELLS JR. beautifully said. Works are the natural progression from faith and salvation, not the cause of it
@skylow77
@skylow77 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent well said ...best way to know your saved is to understand your a sinner and without Jesus we are NOTHING...we all need JESUS
@jandrefelix3577
@jandrefelix3577 5 жыл бұрын
You're the same as the new Indian convert who also believes in other gods and says " I'm saved by faith in Jesus... but just in case that doesn't work, I got my Krishna by my side" - that never works. You're either all in or you are all out. You need to know exactly what you believe/what you put your trust in.
@m1gz13
@m1gz13 5 жыл бұрын
MELVIN LEWIS WELLS JR. Well said.
@charlesbronson9529
@charlesbronson9529 5 жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 1:18 “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.” King James Version (KJV)
@glennlanham6309
@glennlanham6309 4 жыл бұрын
this of course, has no relevance to the conversation....
@tlauhon26
@tlauhon26 4 жыл бұрын
It is very relevant. Changing wording changes meaning. Are saved and being saved are not the same thing. Recieving the spirit vs received the spirit is not the same thing. Passed from death to life vs passing from death to life cannot be the same thing. I have a million dollars or I will at some point have a million dollars is completely different. I have salvation because I believe Or I will have salvation at some point if I keep believing are two different statements. Yes it is relevant
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 4 жыл бұрын
check your verb tense.....are saved, vs are being saved....this may be one part, of the argument...
@DeeMoney-rj4rj
@DeeMoney-rj4rj 4 жыл бұрын
Glenn Lanham see how spiritually blinded you are?...this verse makes perfect sense to those who are SAVED
@fightforflight_____5110
@fightforflight_____5110 4 жыл бұрын
@@tlauhon26 well said!
@abomination2theLord
@abomination2theLord 4 жыл бұрын
GOD say this: Ephesians 1: 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (did you catch that: Sealed to GOD forever) What GOD seals no man can un-seal. Love 4Truth!
@pinknotebook
@pinknotebook 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I believe this too.
@lesliecrawford1336
@lesliecrawford1336 2 жыл бұрын
There are only 144,000 that are sealed. That’s in Revelations. Everyone is not sealed. That seal means sealed with truth.
@thelegendofneo
@thelegendofneo 2 жыл бұрын
did you catch that????? You conveniently added the word Forever but it never said forever! and also you conveniently skipped over the fact that the word sealed is used in the bible as a stamp a mark NOT as meaning it is Closed and Locked in that is a different definition of the word. You are using the definition of sealing something like "locked in" yet the bible speaks of a seal as being a mark or symbol representing ownership. In verse 14 RIGHT AFTER THIS VERSE in the bible it refers to it like a Down payment or a deposit. But does a down payment/deposit, a symbol showing you are God's that he purchased you and you belong to him, mean that it is "unsealable" and he cant cut you off? He cant remove his deposit? no because being marked doesnt mean you cannot be disowned. But of course to remain consistent with your already preferred idea of osas you have to be told that seal means locked in so you can feel comfortable. Even though the word used in the greek for seal is to mark. not to close up or lock in. I suggest you reread the word through clean and unbiased eyes. I was misled with this same point once too till God opened my eyes.
@7manuvit
@7manuvit 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelegendofneo Amen this is all facts
@newcreation2521
@newcreation2521 2 жыл бұрын
Matthew 7:21: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
@mr.emaaejae6058
@mr.emaaejae6058 4 жыл бұрын
Remember this: God knows the heart/deep motives of each and every one of us whether we are saved or not; whether we are hot, lukewarm or cold. In his wisdom he distributes or withholds his power, the Holy Ghost. No one can fool God!
@jamesswigert5666
@jamesswigert5666 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@cedricmcclendon3290
@cedricmcclendon3290 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@libertypastor1307
@libertypastor1307 2 жыл бұрын
Very true! Be sure your sin will find you out, also.
@mr.emaaejae6058
@mr.emaaejae6058 2 жыл бұрын
@@libertypastor1307 That's the job of the Holy Ghost, the discerner and corrector of people's hearts.
@libertypastor1307
@libertypastor1307 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.emaaejae6058 When people fail to listen to their conscience, and in the case of saved people, fail to heed the reproof of the Holy Spirit, their sin will actually out them.
@jtnoodle
@jtnoodle 5 жыл бұрын
It's not called temporary security, it's eternal! That means once you believe, it's forever which nevers ends. Faith alone by grace alone, in Christ alone.
@jenluvzya
@jenluvzya 4 жыл бұрын
Edward Russell agreed, but it’s not our works that saves us, it’s our faith through grace, a gift from the Lord. Good works is evidence of our faith, something that naturally occurs because God lives in us and sanctifies us, but it’s not what determines our salvation. We just have to examine if our faith is truly in Christ because even demons believe in the name of Jesus.
@manilabry8
@manilabry8 4 жыл бұрын
@Edward Russell those verses was for Israel, they had to sacrifice animals and show their works with Faith. After the cross, its all about "Faith" to be "Saved" so in our Church age, we have Faith and Faith alone but you show your works "after" you've been saved, by the Fruits that we produce in Christ🙏
@manilabry8
@manilabry8 4 жыл бұрын
Your Salvation is not the result of good works, your good works is the result of your Salvation🙏🙏🙏
@DeeMoney-rj4rj
@DeeMoney-rj4rj 4 жыл бұрын
Edward Russell Romans 4:5 Ephesians 2:8-9
@paeng46
@paeng46 4 жыл бұрын
Dee Money1990 Romans 4:5 and Ephesians 2:8-9 all speak about justification of faith. It’s not salvation in the context of its entirety. The salvation that is being implied there is salvation from the wrath of God, of which all believers are said to have been freed from after they believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Justification of faith is just the prelude to your salvation (John 1:12). It’s not salvation in the fulness of its essence.
@taniachara77
@taniachara77 4 жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 9:27 “But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified."
@beereaucrat3233
@beereaucrat3233 3 жыл бұрын
NOT a reference to salvation, raised by sheep.
@Bobepc
@Bobepc 3 жыл бұрын
@@beereaucrat3233 - disqualified : From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.
@marydube7523
@marydube7523 3 жыл бұрын
The entire chapter is not talking about running the race in order to earn one’s keep with God. It’s talking about running in order to obtain a prize (i.e., an eternal reward). Eternal life is a free-gift received at the moment of belief, whereas, eternal rewards are earned by a life of faithfulness. Paul speaks about an incorruptible crown which will be earned by remaining disciplined in service to the Lord. Paul is by no means teaching that we have to prove we deserve to be kept least at any given moment God gets rid of us.
@timothyseals3791
@timothyseals3791 3 жыл бұрын
@@marydube7523 What you said is not biblical.
@marydube7523
@marydube7523 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothyseals3791 Sir, you can’t ignore the context and force a meaning on a verse in order to support/defend a belief that contradicts what the Bible repeatedly teaches differently. The apostle Paul is not worried about losing salvation once started by God.
@triumph5649
@triumph5649 4 жыл бұрын
He says, "depart of from I never knew you" not "I knew you and I lost you." In the example of the ones he says it to, they are rattling off their works (lordship salvation). They added their works as a condition of salvation and thus grace was of no effect to them. It is trusting only the completed work of Christ that saves. We aren't co-authors of our salvation otherwise we would get some of the glory. Renee Roland has a great channel for hammering the true gospel into people's heads. It's called the good news for a reason, watch it and send it far and wide and people will start getting saved once they understand this is a free gift that has nothing to do with the impossible obedience people are preaching these days. (Not a license to sin btw)
@jwm66
@jwm66 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@DeeMoney-rj4rj
@DeeMoney-rj4rj 4 жыл бұрын
Triumph exactly
@dennishagans6339
@dennishagans6339 4 жыл бұрын
Scripture against osas. Mathew 25 for starters, Luk 13:23-30, Mat 13:3-23 - Mar 4:3-20 - Luk 8:5-15 The sower, 3 of the casting of the Word of God began to grow, they started the race but 2 of those casting did not endure unto the end. Luk 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. Luk 8:14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection. Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. Those that fail to bring forth good fruit like the seed in Luk 8:14 are subject to John 15:2,6. 1Co 6:7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 1Co 6:8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them. there would be no need for these warnings to Christians if they could not be subject to them because osas says they cannot be. a man-made doctrine does not get to sit in judgment of God's Word. Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Gal 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. It does not matter what your doctrine says, what matters is what God's Word says, and when there are scriptures that have eternal consequences if you do those things, your doctrine does not get to change God's Word and no that scripture is not osased. (osased) made null and void by the doctrine of osas. Either God's word says what it means and means what it says or it doesn't, when God's Word says if you do this, that, or the other thing you will not inherit the Kingdom of God, it means exactly what it says and osas is not going to get you out of it. Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Heb 6:7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: Heb 6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Osasers do not get to interpret away or explain away the hard verses that stand against their osas, they get to read them and believe them exactly as they read. Anyone that says, those verses do not mean what you think they mean is a liar, and they are about to interpret or explain those verses in such a way as to render them null and void of what they plainly say. God's Word says it and that settles it. Luk 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. Luk 11:25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. Luk 11:26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. It takes the power of God to evict the unclean spirit to start with, but after time has been given by God for that person to grow and obey, and they refuse to do so, God will leave, and when He does the unclean spirit finds his former home vacant and ready for reoccupation and this time he brings some friends.
@DeeMoney-rj4rj
@DeeMoney-rj4rj 4 жыл бұрын
Dennis Hagans I’ll explain those scriptures but first I want to show scriptures supporting once saved always saved:...John 3:16,John 6:39-40,John 10:28-29,Ephesians 1:13-14,1 John 5:13 Romans 5:1 Hebrews 10:8-17 1 John 3:9 (KJV by the way)
@dennishagans6339
@dennishagans6339 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeeMoney-rj4rj I only use the KJV, but the scriptures I listed stand clearly against once saved always saved.
@mercermitchell7873
@mercermitchell7873 4 жыл бұрын
If you could lose your salvation, YOU WOULD lose your salvation! None of us are strong enough to protect such a precious gift! The Holy Spirit is our "Seal" and He will see us through to the end!
@peace8453
@peace8453 Жыл бұрын
Yupp like the angel sent to lot but remember lot and his family had a role to play
@Streetballress
@Streetballress Жыл бұрын
💯
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Жыл бұрын
99% of Christians are gullible , deceived, fanatic victims of bible warping, antinomian modern Pharisees. OSAS, JESUS' blood is CURE ALL, and 10 commandment/sabbath TRASHING are the major clues to the pandemic heresy in Christianity. Most Christians have never even read the whole new testament once and don't even know what saved, grace, and gospel really mean!..
@voyager14
@voyager14 9 ай бұрын
Thank you. This is what Hebrews 6 is saying. It's not possible, be assured of your salvation, and go forth and do good works for God. Not because you are trying to 'save yourself' or 'stay saved' but instead, out of love for God and others.
@Eloign
@Eloign 7 ай бұрын
That's philosophy not Scripture. You didn't engage with any of the Scripture he quoted either.
@claylunday3179
@claylunday3179 6 жыл бұрын
Romans 8:38-39 and Hebrews 13:5 give me security that salvation is an inside out trust in God and not my works but his finished work.
@SGOV86
@SGOV86 4 жыл бұрын
Romans 8:38-39 is not about salvation but about the love of God.
@peterdeneke8401
@peterdeneke8401 5 жыл бұрын
losing your salvation is a fear-based doctrine. If every time we sin, does that mean we must get saved again and lose it the next day.... that makes no sense.
@DeeMoney-rj4rj
@DeeMoney-rj4rj 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Deneke I use to think I could lose my salvation until i realized I didn’t save myself in the first place
@TheBibleSays
@TheBibleSays 5 жыл бұрын
We ALL sin; the issue is not whether we sin or not. The issue is whether or not we are in *repentance,* confessing and forsaking sin. Outside of *repentance,* we will perish, not receiving God's promised mercy: ⚫ "except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Jesus, in Luke 13:5) ⚫ "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9) ⚫ "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13) ⚫ "Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him . . . " (Isaiah 55:7) That is why Jesus told His disciples to preach "repentance and remission of sins." NOT "faith alone." NOT "faith + nothing = salvation": ⚫ "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." (Luke 24:45-47) You wrote: _"Losing your salvation is a fear-based doctrine."_ So, what's this about: ⚫ "Let us therefore *fear,* lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." (Hebrews 4:1) Or this? ⚫ "Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but *fear:* For if God spared not the natural branches [the Israelites], *take heed* lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: *otherwise thou also shalt be cut off."* (Romans 11:19 -22)
@peterdeneke8401
@peterdeneke8401 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheBibleSays . Luke 13. is a call for salvation. We are talking about the issue of losing your salvation. I agree we need to repent, and the reason is to keep our relationship with God right. We can't lose our right standing with God or righteousness. Hebrew 4: 1 Was written to unsaved jews who wanted to earn their salvation by works. They were not saved and had made no decision and were in unbelief. The fear of God is a reverence and respect for God, not a fear of punishment. check the original greek.
@pandemicwarfare4288
@pandemicwarfare4288 5 жыл бұрын
I believe it is not somewhat accidental sin, like swearing when you stub your toe, or getting angry at someone ect. It's moreso willfully and defiantly sinning, like planning to hook up with as many women as you can, or planning to set the lord aside since you're depressed and rely on alcohol or xanax to help with your problems.
@JLeppert
@JLeppert 4 жыл бұрын
@@pandemicwarfare4288 relying on alcohol for our depression is what the inerrant word of God says to do, though. Proverbs 31:6-7
@joshl1984
@joshl1984 6 жыл бұрын
If it's not eternal then it shouldnt be called " eternal". It then should be called" probation"
@BioStock08
@BioStock08 5 жыл бұрын
I am going to use that. I would ask for permission but who knows if you are ever going to read this and respond. Sorry guy.
@fountain855
@fountain855 5 жыл бұрын
Phaahaa!
@Radiantlyrebe
@Radiantlyrebe 5 жыл бұрын
josh lausch your problem is that you think that "once saved, always saved" is the same as the term eternal life. They are not. Once you realized this, you'll come to see that the OSAS is a false doctrine.
@explorekenya4685
@explorekenya4685 5 жыл бұрын
@@Radiantlyrebe what's the difference?
@tommy.1002
@tommy.1002 5 жыл бұрын
@@Radiantlyrebe Your a lost soul, There is no difference.
@JessicaTayB
@JessicaTayB Жыл бұрын
For anyone thinking Hebrews and Romans were contradictory, Hebrew 6:4-6 was talking about spiritual maturity. Paul said that if you’ve learned and seen everything and even tasted the Holy Spirit, THEN you fall away, it’s dang near impossible for you to repent because your heart is so hard at that point. God won’t just NOT accept people back. He’s talking about you making the choice to walk away and not looking back.
@Scripturesdude6361
@Scripturesdude6361 Жыл бұрын
Hi 👋.
@johnfast1015
@johnfast1015 5 жыл бұрын
Repentance-We have been saved from the pleasure of sin Justification- We have been saved from the penalty of past sin Sanctification-We are being saved from the power of sin Glorification-We will be saved from the presence of sin
@pcharliew
@pcharliew 4 жыл бұрын
too simple.
@labae8728
@labae8728 4 жыл бұрын
AMEN! This is all over the bible and a lot in Romans! Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. Romans 8:30 NKJV
@pcharliew
@pcharliew 4 жыл бұрын
@@labae8728 Let me ask you a simple question. I think this will clear it up. Does the Bible teach that those who are saved will eventually believe in Jesus. Or does the bible teach that those who believe in Jesus will be saved?
@labae8728
@labae8728 4 жыл бұрын
@@pcharliew Those who BELIEVE in JESUS WILL BE SAVED. "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9
@DeeMoney-rj4rj
@DeeMoney-rj4rj 4 жыл бұрын
John Fast amen once saved always saved
@Okogg
@Okogg 6 жыл бұрын
We continue in righteousness through The Holy Spirit because of gratitude for what Jesus Christ did for us not out of climbing our way up to heaven don’t confuse it with us having to do something to be saved.
@SpiritSoulAnd
@SpiritSoulAnd 5 жыл бұрын
His point is, if we are truly saved, our true faith will manifest true works. Jesus said you shall know them by their fruit.
@JimiSurvivor
@JimiSurvivor 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpiritSoulAnd This is not exactly the point. Faith and works (or our obedient responses to faith) are interactive. James said: 21Was not our father Abraham justified by what he DID [his actions] when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his FAITH was WORKING WITH his ACTIONS, and his faith was PERFECTED by what he did. (James 2:21-22) Abrahams actions increased his faith causing to grow to completion. Would Abraham have had faith if he had NOT sacrificed His son? I think not. The Bible also says: 8 By faith Abraham, WHEN CALLED to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, OBEYED and went, without knowing where he was going. Hearing the call to leave was not enough. Abraham actually had to obey by moving his household.
@lightninlad
@lightninlad 5 жыл бұрын
macolyis No, works are not simply “evidence” of our faith-James explains that they are ALSO a source of justification: (James 2:24) “24 You see that a man is 👉justified by works and not by faith alone.” There is a big difference between saying that works are “evidence” and that works “justify”. It is totally possible for someone who has faith to not have good works. That’s the part that you’re not realizing: (1 Timothy 5:8) “But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has 👉denied the faith👈 and is WORSE than an unbeliever.” You as a believer can “deny the faith” by your deeds. It’s not automatic that your faith will produce good works. You must participate in your own salvation. We are not sponges 🧽 soaking up God’s grace.
@totalityofscripture1001
@totalityofscripture1001 5 жыл бұрын
macolyis if Christians can’t be carnal then why does Paul refer to them as “babes in Christ”?? Did Paul not understand the concept you’re trying to set forth??
@darcie7773
@darcie7773 4 жыл бұрын
Well said BROTHER
@c.g.ryderii2405
@c.g.ryderii2405 6 жыл бұрын
The letter to the church of Laodocia says it clear, Jesus says IF you repent " I will not blot your name out of the book of life" Revelation 3. much love brothers and sisters Jesus Christ is King
@dennisdier2906
@dennisdier2906 6 жыл бұрын
thats interesting because why didnt isreal just do a few sacrifices and that was it? what is blasphamy of the holy spirit?
@ATinyPillow
@ATinyPillow 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta repent from eating the Forbidden Fruit of the flesh of God's creatures. Judgement is on the horizon because most are still eating the Forbidden Fruit of the flesh of God's creatures, "thou shalt not kill", remember? For those who think "thou shalt not kill" only applies to killing people, have a read. Isaiah 66:3 "He that kills an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrifices a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offers a grain offering, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burns incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their souls delight in their own abominations." .
@lmorris6170
@lmorris6170 5 жыл бұрын
Dennis Dier Blasphemy of the holy spiritual is to kick against the Bible.
@dennishagans6339
@dennishagans6339 5 жыл бұрын
@Charles Pieters the commandment keepers don't even keep the 10 perfectly! Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. they offend in one point and are thus guilty of all 613 OT commandments.
@dennishagans6339
@dennishagans6339 5 жыл бұрын
@Charles Pieters first of all, the quote from Exodus is not a part of the Law Exo 32:31 And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. Exo 32:32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. Exo 32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. this is a conversation between God and Moses and God is making a Direct Statement to Moses *_Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book._* secondly, I stand firmly against osas it is a doctrine from the pits of Hell thirdly you misunderstood what I meant about offending in one point and being guilty of all. if you offend in one point of the Law as James says you are guilty of breaking all of the Law of which there are 613 old Testament commandments google it, so to offend in one point of the Law is to be just as guilty as if you broke all 613 commandments. sda's and other cultist groups that claim we have to keep the 10 commandments violate The law of The Sabbath in one point. there are two of the 10 commandments that have two parts. Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. Eph 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; *_(which is the first commandment with promise;)_* Eph 6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. as that commandment has two parts there is one more with two parts the one that the law keepers stress the most. Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. this commandment also has two parts and the second part is not kept by the law keepers Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Exo 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Exo 31:15 *_Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death._* Exo 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. Exo 35:2 *_Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death._* those who violate the Sabbath are to be put to death that is the second part of the Law of The Sabbath, the so-called Sabbath keepers are offending in this one point of the law in that they do not do the whole of the Law of the Sabbath but only half of it. and to get out of the second part of the Law of the Sabbath the law keepers must run to the New Testament to get their reason why they do not have to do the second part of Keeping the Sabbath, so if they are going to get one reason for not keeping one point of the 10 commandments from the New Testament why not get the rest of the reasons for not being under the Law but under Grace from the New Testament as well.
@boynton20
@boynton20 3 жыл бұрын
Once the spirit seals a believer that believer is sealed forever . God keeps us by his power .
@elvispresley3234
@elvispresley3234 Жыл бұрын
Bull.
@bobgiffin2598
@bobgiffin2598 Жыл бұрын
If we, by His grace, "endure to the end" (Mat 10:22; 24:13).
@elvispresley3234
@elvispresley3234 Жыл бұрын
@@bobgiffin2598 "If".
@bobgiffin2598
@bobgiffin2598 Жыл бұрын
@@elvispresley3234 Yes, "if."
@andreaakilic5608
@andreaakilic5608 Жыл бұрын
True. Ephesians 1:13
@jesussaves3949
@jesussaves3949 5 жыл бұрын
1 Peter 1:23 BEING BORN AGAIN, NOT OF CORRUPTIBLE SEED, BUT OF INCORRUPTIBLE, BY THE WORD OF GOD, WHICH LIVETH AND ABIDETH FOR EVER.
@Living4YHWH
@Living4YHWH 5 жыл бұрын
Cherry picking... Continue reading that and it clearly describes a life of obeying scripture. You can also read before it and find the same! 22 "...In OBEYING the truth..." Not 'In continuing a life of sin despite the truth'.
@tommy.1002
@tommy.1002 5 жыл бұрын
@@Living4YHWH You think your own righteousness saves you?
@TheBibleSays
@TheBibleSays 5 жыл бұрын
@@tommy.1002 You think "faith alone" saves you? Read Hebrews 5:9.
@tommy.1002
@tommy.1002 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBibleSays What works are there in getting saved? I had none myself! Name your works you did in getting saved.
@TheBibleSays
@TheBibleSays 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommy.1002 You're not saved, Tommy, and you won't be saved until you receive the gift of eternal life at Jesus' return. Short of that, both you and I will perish, losing everything, very much unsaved. However, if we'd like to enter justification with God, we can follow instructions and receive His mercy, as promised: ⚫ "And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent" (Acts 17:30) ⚫ "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13) ⚫ "Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him . . . " (Isaiah 55:7) ⚫ "Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation *unto all them that obey him"* (Hebrews 5:8,9)
@snowbear8240
@snowbear8240 6 жыл бұрын
His grace is sufficient I accept that gift freely thank you yeshua
@BokaLokaToka
@BokaLokaToka 6 жыл бұрын
Is grace applied before or after you are a Christian?
@turt1231
@turt1231 6 жыл бұрын
@@BokaLokaToka Was Abraham righteous after he believed?
@BokaLokaToka
@BokaLokaToka 6 жыл бұрын
@@turt1231 Was Abraham a Christian or a Jew?
@Phenique35
@Phenique35 5 жыл бұрын
The Bible does not teach the doctrine of ‘once saved, always saved.’ A person who has gained salvation by faith in Jesus Christ can lose that faith and the salvation that comes with it. The Bible says that maintaining faith requires great effort, a “hard fight.” (Jude 3, 5) Early Christians who had already accepted Christ were told: “Keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”​-Philippians 2:​12.
@Phenique35
@Phenique35 5 жыл бұрын
@@BokaLokaToka The Bible does not teach the doctrine of ‘once saved, always saved.’ A person who has gained salvation by faith in Jesus Christ can lose that faith and the salvation that comes with it. The Bible says that maintaining faith requires great effort, a “hard fight.” (Jude 3, 5) Early Christians who had already accepted Christ were told: “Keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”​-Philippians 2:​12.
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 4 жыл бұрын
Converted yes Enlightened yes Changed your ways yes None are yet saved, for salvation can only happen after judgment. Matthew 24:13 Shall is the word
@johncollins6755
@johncollins6755 3 жыл бұрын
...those that endure to the end, the same shall be saved...JESUS..Mat. 24:13...
@jesseljones4991
@jesseljones4991 3 жыл бұрын
“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1:13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬
@Sherlock245
@Sherlock245 2 жыл бұрын
He teaches that Elijah never ascended into heaven, the thief on the cross next to Jesus didn’t go to heaven, and the idea that we go to heaven is pagan and might be the biggest lie we’ve ever been told.
@chickbowdrie4750
@chickbowdrie4750 2 жыл бұрын
Great verse. Now, brother, apply this verse with the verses that this video brings up. What do you have?
@chickbowdrie4750
@chickbowdrie4750 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sherlock245 fortunately there is absolutely no evidence to support your statement. What you're saying is mere speculation.
@Sherlock245
@Sherlock245 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickbowdrie4750 this person is very misleading
@Sherlock245
@Sherlock245 2 жыл бұрын
@@chickbowdrie4750 it is evidence that he believe and said it.
@HeavenlyHearth
@HeavenlyHearth Жыл бұрын
It's too late. All of my sins have already been removed past, present, and future.
@tommysuriel
@tommysuriel Жыл бұрын
Philippians 1:6; “being confident of this, that He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”
@BruceJC75
@BruceJC75 3 жыл бұрын
In these last days with many coming deceptions, it’s so important to be vigilant about being firm in our faith.
@kenshiloh
@kenshiloh 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. It is absolutely true, 'once saved, always saved.' Remember that salvation is to know Christ, "This is eternal life, that you know God and Jesus Christ Whom He has sent." A person who falls away never knew the Lord, as it is written, "Love never fails." If 'love' fails, it was never really love in the first place; if someone denies the Lord permanently, then they were never saved in the first place; if a person loves sin but professes Christ, they are a tare among the wheat, a wolf in sheep's clothing, a false convert. Jesus said that whoever believes in Him will have rivers of living water bubbling up within them. Do you know the Lord? Are you seated in the heavenlies with Christ? Does the Holy Spirit bear witness with your spirit that you are a child of God? Remember that salvation is a personal encounter with the Lord. Simply confessing or going to church does nothing unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit. Ask and you shall receive! If you are not certain about your salvation, you probably are not saved! Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@cometochristorg
@cometochristorg Жыл бұрын
@@kenshiloh yours is a fallacious argument. how can a person falls away is he was not in the right place before? Falling away means away from the truth he use to stand on.
@iceyblue1077
@iceyblue1077 Жыл бұрын
​@@kenshilohit's not true. If you start doing worldly acts and fulfill fleshly desires willingly without repentance, you will be cut off. You cannot serve two masters. You cannot drink from God's cup and turn around and drink from Satan's cup.
@kenshiloh
@kenshiloh Жыл бұрын
@@iceyblue1077 Hi. I hope that you will carefully and prayerfully consider what I have to say, as I am sharing accurately from the Word of God. Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved (Romans 10.13)." From Scripture, can we agree that those who are saved 1) bear much fruit and 2) endure to the end? Therefore, when a person calls upon the Name of the Lord, they will be born again. Conversely, if a person prays the 'Sinner's Prayer,' but is not filled with the Holy Spirit, they did not truly call upon the Name of the Lord. For example, you mentioned that if a person acts according to fleshly desires without repentance they shall be cut off. Yet, those who have been born again will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, as they hunger and thirst after righteousness. You cannot be saved and not love and serve the Lord. Those who have been born again HAVE eternal life. They will live forever in Christ, they will hate sin, and they will endure to the end - otherwise they did not have eternal life in the first place. You cannot have temporary eternal life! Therefore, a person cannot 'lose' eternal life, as they were never born again, as they were never saved in the first place. What I am about to write is of eternal importance to you. Referring to the Holy Spirit, Jesus said, "Whoever believes in Me shall have rivers of living water bubbling up inside of them." Do you have that? Do you know the Holy Spirit? Does He bear witness that you are saved (Romans 8.16)? If not, then ask, trusting that God always keeps a promise. Whoever asks of Him shall receive the Holy Spirit. Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Christ died on a Cross so that we may know Him. If you are living in fear that you mighty lose your salvation, my question is, how do you know you are saved in the first place? The problem is easily solved by asking for and receiving the Holy Spirit. Christ died on a Cross so that we may know Him. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@sasquatchycowboy5585
@sasquatchycowboy5585 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how someone couldn’t come back and John 3:16, and a host of others could be true. It says believe in present tense, and everyone. Doesn’t that mean if one repents and believes and isn’t saved how could everyone that believes have eternal life?
@lilacook921
@lilacook921 2 жыл бұрын
I am SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS FINISHED WORK ON THE CROSS! I am being sanctified throughout my life ❤️ and ✝️🛐 s
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 Жыл бұрын
this is the argument of osas.....so what does it mean...the one that preserves, till the end, shall be saved....
@johnarnold3696
@johnarnold3696 Жыл бұрын
And in that case you are eternally secure because He does the saving. He promises it is eternal life. Not maybe so life. Many who taste of the Holy Spirit but not swallow or gobble it completely are not saved. And can be enlightened but not surrendered and born again. Tasting and being enlighted are not salvation. Jesus said that all that come to Him in salvation He will not lose one. He even promises that those that are under the blood of Jesus are predestined to be like Christ someday. To mix one's filthy rags self works with the finished work of Grace is satans biggest tool to get people to trust in themselves and not in Jesus and His work on the cross. Please beware of false teachers that put the burden of salvation on what you do, denying the saving power of what Jesus did.
@lilacook921
@lilacook921 Жыл бұрын
@@johnarnold3696 you are absolutely right ❤️ and ✝️🛐 s
@simplifiedlife8607
@simplifiedlife8607 Жыл бұрын
@@johnarnold3696 And what about all of the scriptures he quoted in his presentation?
@peace8453
@peace8453 Жыл бұрын
​@@johnarnold3696 ohh but remember demas read John chapter 17 you would realise Judas was one of those giving to Jesus read the letters to the churches in revelation and mind you they were churches also remember it was to people who were originally saved in the new testament salvation is used both in the past present and future tense and remember the bible says the unholy won't inherit the kingdom of God.
@randydodsworth4334
@randydodsworth4334 5 жыл бұрын
There’s no greater joy than to have the peace of knowing you have eternal security. If we could lose our salvation, we surly would and it would be about us rather than about him who saved us and keeps us.
@RealSnail3D
@RealSnail3D 5 жыл бұрын
Randy Dodsworth Amen, God bless you.
@jetrey9553
@jetrey9553 5 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@michaelkey3780
@michaelkey3780 5 жыл бұрын
1 Timothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. These are people who once believed but fell away.
@christianjamesguevarra6257
@christianjamesguevarra6257 5 жыл бұрын
@Christ is king you are unsaved. You do not rightly divide the word of God and you read scriptures out of context. Please improve your reading comprehension skills and pray before reading and quoting scriptures from the bible. I hope you get saved soon. Peace.
@dreamcomics5378
@dreamcomics5378 5 жыл бұрын
@@christianjamesguevarra6257 I'm too far gone...
@mr.e1220
@mr.e1220 5 жыл бұрын
I used to believe and fell away for years...so we can be renewed to repentance...remember if u do not continue in unbelief we can be GRAFTED IN AGAIN!
@kenshiloh
@kenshiloh 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. It is absolutely true, 'once saved, always saved.' Remember that salvation is to know Christ, "This is eternal life, that you know God and Jesus Christ Whom He has sent." A person who falls away never knew the Lord, as it is written, "Love never fails." If 'love' fails, it was never really love in the first place; if someone denies the Lord permanently, then they were never saved in the first place; if a person loves sin but professes Christ, they are a tare among the wheat, a wolf in sheep's clothing, a false convert. Jesus said that whoever believes in Him will have rivers of living water bubbling up within them. Do you know the Lord? Are you seated in the heavenlies with Christ? Does the Holy Spirit bear witness with your spirit that you are a child of God? Remember that salvation is a personal encounter with the Lord. Simply confessing or going to church does nothing unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit. Ask and you shall receive! If you are not certain about your salvation, you probably are not saved! Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@EricBurum
@EricBurum 2 жыл бұрын
Right and I don’t feel like that’s what he was saying I fell away and became a drunkard I didn’t quit believing in Christ I just did a lot of bad stuff but the belief was still there but I repented I think there’s a fine line here
@JesusChrist_IsTruth-LoveForALL
@JesusChrist_IsTruth-LoveForALL 2 жыл бұрын
SAME! ALL Glory to the most high for his grace and mercy! 🙌
@grahamwhitman5515
@grahamwhitman5515 2 жыл бұрын
@@EricBurum the key is that you repented of your sins. God's Grace allows you to be forgiven when you show remorse and repent. But the OSAS crowd say that even if you should die in sin you will still go to Heaven because God don't see you as a sinner.
@newcreation2521
@newcreation2521 2 жыл бұрын
Ezekiel 18:21-32 (NIV): "But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. 22 None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live? 24 But if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die. 25 Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear, you Israelites: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? 26 If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin, they will die for it; because of the sin they have committed they will die. 27 But if a wicked person turns away from the wickedness they have committed and does what is just and right, they will save their life. 28 Because they consider all the offenses they have committed and turn away from them, that person will surely live; they will not die. 29 Yet the Israelites say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Are my ways unjust, people of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust? 30 Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. 31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? 32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!”
@TruthMongerMomma
@TruthMongerMomma 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, after reading alot of the comments I see why some channels turn the comments off!
@GodGuy8
@GodGuy8 3 жыл бұрын
its so annoying why they turn it off
@krellpoes5194
@krellpoes5194 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the truth can be annoying to liars
@Kelle0284
@Kelle0284 2 жыл бұрын
Turning off comments seems like a huge red flag to me.
@LukeZimmerman-ss8xo
@LukeZimmerman-ss8xo Жыл бұрын
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24 KJV
@GibsonRickenbacker
@GibsonRickenbacker 6 жыл бұрын
This is not going to be popular. The truth rarely is, however.
@Nethezbet
@Nethezbet 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but FAR too many Christians simply accept what they have been told and never dare challenge themselves.
@tigranvoskanyan5411
@tigranvoskanyan5411 6 жыл бұрын
*Watch* : Once Saved Always Saved by Pastor Steven Anderson
@allenelman1233
@allenelman1233 6 жыл бұрын
@@Nethezbet What IS a CHRISTIAN??
@Nethezbet
@Nethezbet 6 жыл бұрын
@@allenelman1233 I would say that it is a person who has accepted Jesus as their lord and savior, and believes that that salvation comes from faith in the death and resurrection. Keeping things simple, I need to go to bed lol
@dennishagans6339
@dennishagans6339 6 жыл бұрын
I believe that for a doctrine to stand that it must stand the test of the Whole Word of God and not just the proof texts used to support it. Luk 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Heb 6:7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: Heb 6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. all 10 were VIRGINS but 5 of them were shut out of the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Mat 25:24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: Mat 25:25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. Mat 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: Mat 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Mat 25:28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. Mat 25:29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. all of these were SERVANTS of The Lord, but one of them was fearful and did nothing with what his Lord gave him, and he was cast into outer darkness. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. the fearful SERVANT was cast into outer darkness. Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Rev 3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. names can be blotted out or removed from the Book of Life Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. it is obvious that if a name has been blotted out or removed then on that day it will not be found. this is but a fraction of the verses that stand against osas. but people will hunt for anything to deny these scriptures and change them so that they do not stand against their beloved osas. they would rather find ways around what the Scriptures plainly say so they can keep their man-made doctrine rather than to believe the Word of God. because to admit that your doctrine is wrong is to admit that you have been deceived by those you LOVE, and that prospect is too painful to radical to even consider, pride will not let millions admit they were deceived, they would rather maintain the status quo, not make waves, not ruffle any feathers and walk as an enemy of the Cross than to admit they have been deceived. I was a Baptist once but I left over osas. God did not allow me to become indoctrinated into that heresy. when you have to find ways to deny scripture to save your man-made doctrine from them, that should throw up a huge red flag, but it does not because people become blinded to the truth to keep their lies. so many people have the rose-colored glasses of their Pastor and denomination on so that when the truth is right in front of their eyes, those glasses filter out that truth so that it is not perceived. the very Word of God has to be wrong so that the doctrine can stand because we know the doctrine is true and cannot be undone therefore the scriptures standing against their doctrine are WRONG. they prefer to accuse God's Word of being wrong rather than their doctrine. the emotional bond of love for the Pastor and denomination they got saved in blinds them to the Truth of God's Word in favor of the doctrine they have learned from those that would never lie to them. one of their favorite tactics is to claim that you are not rightly dividing the Word of Truth because if you were then you would believe as they do so you must be wrongly dividing the Word of Truth because only believing in their doctrine is rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
@mlandvodlamini8894
@mlandvodlamini8894 5 жыл бұрын
1 John:2.19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
@zeejohnson78
@zeejohnson78 4 жыл бұрын
Its happend only in one condition if someone accepted jesus christ as personal saver but after some time he denied. Otherwise its correct doctrine once saved always saved. 1st corinthians 3:13
@SGOV86
@SGOV86 4 жыл бұрын
The previous verse(verse 18) clearly states that it is about the anti-christ and the many anti- christs.
@rodgermilner7800
@rodgermilner7800 3 жыл бұрын
@@SGOV86 keep reading that chapter "Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist-denying the Father and the Son" Whoever denies Jesus is considered an antichrist
@SGOV86
@SGOV86 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodgermilner7800 exactly. The point is that it does not talking about people who once repented and then depart of the faith.
@SerendipitousProvidence
@SerendipitousProvidence 3 жыл бұрын
@@SGOV86 "if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us" Explain
@kadams5905
@kadams5905 3 жыл бұрын
Point blank honesty is so refreshing; many water down The Word. I prefer the shock & humility when I see my own flaw. I’m quicker to change when I see my guilt. My Savior continues to speak in parables through fellowship & congregational studies. Praise Yah!!
@debbiewareing1178
@debbiewareing1178 4 ай бұрын
You can not water down clear, succinct and truthful scripture. Gods grace is a free gift! No works are actually required! Although, once a person is saved the Spirit that abides in them will pursue good works. All of those I know that are saved through grace, by faith ALONE, in Christ ALONE, do not see it as a licence to sin, but in fact, often have good works. Better works even, but ultimately they have the freedom that Christ promised, an easy yoke and a light burden. The free gift of grace that the Lord gave us. We are confident in our salvation and know that should we not always attain the perfection laid out in the bible, we are still saved. It is such a relief, knowing that God loves us, for the sinners we are and that He saves us unconditionally, apart from faith as the sinners we are. God bless.
@xylsvos
@xylsvos 3 ай бұрын
We should consider two scriptures: Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. And Romans 11:29 King James Version 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
@Steve-lj8cy
@Steve-lj8cy 5 жыл бұрын
Titus 3:5-7 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his Mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
@lightninlad
@lightninlad 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Smith Don’t worry, we won’t always be with you. Once you see that eternal life is rendered according to your works-you’ll be with 👉US: (Romans 2:6-7) “6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 😌😁
@llllllllllllllIIlIllIIllIIIIll
@llllllllllllllIIlIllIIllIIIIll 5 жыл бұрын
lightninlad ridiculous ...
@lightninlad
@lightninlad 5 жыл бұрын
Jay What’s ridiculous? That eternal life is rendered according to your works? That’s literally what Paul said. Therefore we must accept that this is indeed how salvation works.
@lightninlad
@lightninlad 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Smith Perhaps all of that “ridiculous stuff” is true but you simply can’t accept it because you are carnally minded: (Proverbs 14:12) “There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.”
@lightninlad
@lightninlad 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Smith The teachings of the apostles are not chains, they are freedom. Stop using the scriptures as your personal salad bar; taking what you deem to be the truth while leaving the rest. Your vanity will be your undoing.
@mirasetfree4503
@mirasetfree4503 4 жыл бұрын
Ah this sentence in the end! "We HAVE been saved by grace, through faith. We are BEING saved by remaining in Messiah, and we WILL be saved, when he returns, if we endure in faith till the end. " So good! Definitely will share this video with friends!
@barnythepreacher4559
@barnythepreacher4559 3 жыл бұрын
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:5‭-‬6 KJV
@richardmunro7207
@richardmunro7207 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, a fruit salad Gospel of grace mixed with works, our effort and endurance. Satan loves this, but this is not the Gospel of the grace of God. If you were to rightly divide Gods word like He tells you to do, you will notice that not everything is written directly to us. We are saved by grace through faith, sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption. Although you think you’re being pious, you’re not and you’re including your effort to be saved at the end which is not the Gospel and one contrary to the one Paul preached (Our Apostle sent by Jesus Christ Himself).
@libertypastor1307
@libertypastor1307 2 жыл бұрын
So bad. So deceitful. He takes verses out of context. Unbelievable! If you share this, you will be a partaker of his sins!
@jeffrachelburkhalter3783
@jeffrachelburkhalter3783 2 жыл бұрын
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, >>>>that they might be made manifest>bears witness with our spirit,>except>because ye are not of My sheep,>know not the voice of strangersthey shall never perish,>>>I should lose nothing,nor< angels, >nor< principalities, >nor< powers, >nor< things present, >nor< things to come, >Nor< height, >nor< depth, >nor< any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:39-39 For whatsoever is >>>>born of God overcometh the world:persuaded>He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day.>>>He which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.
@chickbowdrie4750
@chickbowdrie4750 2 жыл бұрын
@@libertypastor1307 totally disagree. The man is on point. You're not listening to what he is actually saying because you're already convinced he's wrong before going in to detail.
@HowardJonesOfficial
@HowardJonesOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
(KJV Translation) James 2:24 - "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.", James 2:26 - "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." and of course Revelations 3:16 - "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
@joemoody9955
@joemoody9955 4 жыл бұрын
Great verse. Check out 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K 5 жыл бұрын
And this Perseverance is keeping the commandments through ridicule and temptation. God bless 🙏🙏🙏
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K 5 жыл бұрын
How do we endure in the faith.... keep the commandments
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K 5 жыл бұрын
Remember faith without works is dead 🙏
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K 5 жыл бұрын
Good works should be the fruit of our faith not the root of our faith 🙏
@vincent7156
@vincent7156 5 жыл бұрын
@@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K Faith alone saves, period!
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K
@seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K 5 жыл бұрын
@@vincent7156 dont you know that faith without works is dead ?!
@TIMMY12181
@TIMMY12181 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, eternal security for the church age. You must RIGHTLY DIVIDE. You are sealed.
@omegatafkal
@omegatafkal 5 жыл бұрын
"Church Age"? I don't find that term anywhere in the Bible
@robertogarza8960
@robertogarza8960 5 жыл бұрын
The Libertarian Conservative Vyonder The word Bible is not in it either, then it must not be the true word of God 🤦🏻‍♂️
@keepmycommandmentsandlive1607
@keepmycommandmentsandlive1607 5 жыл бұрын
@@robertogarza8960 Are you really going to use that silly argument? Bible is the Greek word biblos it means book, and the word book is in the bible. I agree with Libertarian. And also say that denominations should stop inventing doctrines, there is no such thing as "the church age", that doesn't exist. Also the book of Acts says the church was in the wilderness with Moses.
@robertogarza8960
@robertogarza8960 5 жыл бұрын
Keep my commandments and live I guess all the Bible applies to us, and we should start stoning children
@ethanreed2672
@ethanreed2672 5 жыл бұрын
@@omegatafkal We are not under the law, you have to understand that Jesus was living in the time of the law wasn't he? But after his death, he started to show us the real meaning of things. He told us to simply believe in him didn't he?
@dangaerlan6906
@dangaerlan6906 4 жыл бұрын
If you are not saved forever, you are not saved. Context is the key.
@Hoodinator17
@Hoodinator17 3 жыл бұрын
stop telling God how to judge or what to do
@Tre492
@Tre492 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hoodinator17 He’s not….read your BIBLE!
@gusloader123
@gusloader123 2 жыл бұрын
He who endures to the end shall be saved. Not he or she who went forward at an Evangelistic meeting or get baptized by someone. Talk is cheap. Walk the talk!
@reymarzongalletesbautista6941
@reymarzongalletesbautista6941 4 жыл бұрын
I think this analogy is fit to this video: "A faith without love will surely fall away for love is the root of faith, without it, faith will be blown away by a great wind..."
@raulmendoza4090
@raulmendoza4090 4 жыл бұрын
OSAS is like saying I’m a reborn Christian and I lived by faith in Jesus Christ for 10 years but then the last 3 years of my life I departed from God and died in my sins that I willfully committed and I still go to heaven.
@peterpulpitpounder
@peterpulpitpounder 2 жыл бұрын
Eternal security is most definitely taught in the Bible. One cannot be chosen before the foundation of the world and then un-chosen in time. Believers are "sealed unto the day of redemption." The other side of the coin is that a professing Christian is not going to live like the devil. The good news is that we don't have to separate all the tares from the wheat. God will do that, for "knows them that are His." The doctrine of eternal security must not be rejected in an attempt to combat the abuse of God's wondrous grace.
@massey904
@massey904 5 жыл бұрын
Salvation = Eternal Life Once saved eternally saved.
@gkkenobi3988
@gkkenobi3988 5 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyORiley We do not have Eternal life yet. We will die first and then be resurrected to eternal life.
@debbieguinn9311
@debbieguinn9311 5 жыл бұрын
Not so
@RevelationTwelve11
@RevelationTwelve11 5 жыл бұрын
Formerly Rabbi Chris ... What many people fail to understand is that, although Yeshua (Jesus) will NEVER leave us or forsake us, WE CAN leave HIM and FORSAKE HIM and thereby lose our salvation. The Bible is clear about this and even foretells that there will be Christians who will "DEPART FROM THE FAITH" in the last days: "Now the Spirit expressly says that *in latter times some will depart from the faith,* giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons ..." (1 Tim. 4:1) In order to depart from the faith, one must first be IN the faith, a true believer in Yeshua. 2 Thess. 2 refers to this departure from the faith as "the falling away." Under the persecution and threat of death from the antichrist, many will renounce Yeshua during the tribulation to come. And when they DENY HIM by accepting the mark of the beast in order to save their own earthly lives, then HE, BY HIS OWN WORD, must then DENY THEM. "This is a faithful saying: For if we died with Him, We shall also live with Him. *IF we ENDURE, * We shall also reign with Him. *IF we DENY Him, * *HE also will DENY US."* (2 Tim. 2:11-12) Do you SEE that it is CONDITIONAL? IF we ENDURE ... or IF we DENY HIM. His people will have to MAKE A CHOICE to either REMAIN IN HIM or DENY HIM. And when speaking of the tribulation at the end of the age prior to His return, Yeshua Himself said, "He who ENDURES TO THE END shall be saved." (Matt. 24:13) "But WHOEVER denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven." (Matt. 10:33) "Once saved, always saved" is NOT sound doctrine, but is rather a dangerous deception from Satan and is meant to cause deceived Christians to cast away their own salvation ... because they erroneously THINK that they CANNOT POSSIBLY LOSE THEIR SALVATION, EVEN IF THEY CAST IT AWAY THEMSELVES BY DENYING YESHUA in order to save their physical lives! TAKE HEED TO YESHUA'S WARNING: *"For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it."* (Luke 9:24)
@user-wn8mc1yc1g
@user-wn8mc1yc1g 5 жыл бұрын
So if someone accepts Christ, but fornicates they are still saved?
@DivineDianne
@DivineDianne 5 жыл бұрын
@@RevelationTwelve11 This is a good comment. You make very valid points. The bible does not lie. A lot of christians are deceived with this once saved always saved false doctrine! Salvation is ours when we accept Christ and believe. It is a done deal. It is a contract but we as humans can break that contract if we deny Christ! God doesn't go back on his promise to save us, but we can forfeit our own salvation on our end when we lose faith.
@wyattbranham4919
@wyattbranham4919 6 жыл бұрын
If you fall, get back up. Its when you lay in your filth, that you truly are lost.
@kac0404
@kac0404 Жыл бұрын
There is a very simple problem with the dogma of “once saved, always saved.” That problem is that it is just not biblical! The truth is, the dogma of “once saved, always saved” is part of the doctrines and commandments of men. Consider Matthew 15:1-20; Mark 7:1-23 → Galatians 1:6-20 and II John 1:7-11!
@boynton20
@boynton20 4 жыл бұрын
Salvation is a one time event . Our daily walk is different.
@MrKev1664
@MrKev1664 3 жыл бұрын
Christ be with you what nonsense rom 6:16-23 God bless you
@frank2185
@frank2185 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Pete, The walk is a whole new ballgame.
@FamousCube
@FamousCube 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but if we don’t have a daily walk with Jesus we don’t lose our salvation.
@frank2185
@frank2185 3 жыл бұрын
@@FamousCube I would agree with you. Salvation is based only on Jesus, Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
@David-mk5yq
@David-mk5yq 3 жыл бұрын
@@frank2185 But what about Matthew 7:21? if one were to keep "willfully" sinning wouldn't that person lose their salvation? do you think that's talking about "lukewarm" Christians who keep "willfully" sinning and living a lifestyle of sin? I believe there's a difference between sinning and "willfully sinning". I believe we all make mistakes(even when become Christians) but I think some Christians may use that as an excuse to keep sinning DELIBERATELY. Do you think Matthew 7:21 AND Revelation 3:15-16 refers to them? Matthew 7:21 -> Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will. enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Revelation 3:15-16 -> I know thy works, that thou art neither cold or hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because though art LUKEWARM, and neither cold nor hot, I will SPUE thee out of my mouth. Also, 1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
@raywillis468
@raywillis468 4 жыл бұрын
Essentially, it comes down to who is doing the saving? If we are trusting in anything we do to save us, we have no hope of even temporary salvation, much less eternal salvation. However, if God is saving us then we can truly say we are being saved and know that He who has begun a good work in us will complete it. Philippians 1:6 There's a marked difference between those who are trying to "be" a Christian and those in whom it is the Spirit of God doing the work.
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550 6 жыл бұрын
We have to finish the race.
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550 5 жыл бұрын
ajgYT09 you are welcome to disagree. "Once saved, always saved" dotrine teaches people they have a license to sin, which is not the case. Read Ezekiel 18. Many believers never grow beyond a certain point because they don't truly love God with all their heart. They believe in ceremonial Christianity and have weekend/weakened Warrior faith.
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Mobile Gaming hi. I hope you are doing well.
@MrBazinthenow
@MrBazinthenow 4 жыл бұрын
You cant race to heaven without being born again .
@562mjohnson
@562mjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
So you're sinless?
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550 3 жыл бұрын
@@562mjohnson I am not sinless, I am forgiven and I seek to have a circumcised heart more and more every day.
@StevePhillips777
@StevePhillips777 2 ай бұрын
Very wise use of the Word of God that challenges us to study and obey. The "Osteen Affect" keeps congregations happy with pleasant words, but usually avoids the words of Jesus and His disciples rightly divided that reveal we remain in His will by obedience and righteousness not by practicing sin. We all occasionally sin and repent and ask for forgiveness, however we cannot continually practice sin by lying, deception and careless living until death and think we are still saved. Ezekiel chapter 18 teaches us about what God thinks of sin and how a person who walks away from righteousness will be treated by God.
@picsandpsalterystudios996
@picsandpsalterystudios996 5 жыл бұрын
You are way off, and I would seriously check your heart. Instead of explaining lies, you are telling more lies. Read and study the Bible correctly. Ephesians 2:8-9 John 3:16 Note it says ETERNAL life. Eternal means for ever.
@Living4YHWH
@Living4YHWH 5 жыл бұрын
And ETERNAL LIFE is promised AFTER earthly life, not during it! Your implied idea would require humans never die on Earth.
@johnf.6942
@johnf.6942 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, everlasting is forever. John 3:16, 6:40 , 47 We are sealed.
@dikvleesachterhoofd
@dikvleesachterhoofd 5 жыл бұрын
should not perish, but have everlasting life. Were not going to perish, but instead have eternal life. But... first we must leave this sinful body before getting it.
@johnf.6942
@johnf.6942 4 жыл бұрын
Levi Pattar so according to you Jesus lied when he said he gave the life , John 3:16, 17 , and since he Is a liar he continues to lie in 3:36, and John 6:27. So why did he die on a cross and lie so much ?
@johnf.6942
@johnf.6942 4 жыл бұрын
Levi Pattar No I don’t need your help.... Because by faith we are children of God according to Romans 5:1. And It Says we are justified ....go study justified....because it means declaring the ungodly to be righteous...
@Damian.Williams
@Damian.Williams 6 жыл бұрын
Amen... For concerning those who were once enlightened and tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the age to come, and then fell away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance; seeing they crucify the Son of God for themselves again, and put him to open shame. For the land which has drunk the rain that comes often on it, and produces a crop suitable for them for whose sake it is also tilled, receives blessing from God; but if it bears thorns and thistles, it is rejected and near being cursed, whose end is to be burned. Hebrews 6:4‭-‬8
@camilla6110
@camilla6110 6 жыл бұрын
Ahmein, Damian.
@flyingsourdough1619
@flyingsourdough1619 6 жыл бұрын
This is referring to people who taste enlightenment and reject it(fall away), as they can no longer get this back. This is not talking about already saved people
@Damian.Williams
@Damian.Williams 5 жыл бұрын
@Puppet 777 please give scripture to back up everything you are saying (church age etc)... You know that he was revealed to take away our sins, and in him is no sin. Whoever remains in him doesn’t sin. Whoever sins hasn’t seen him and doesn’t know him. Little children, let no one lead you astray. He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed: that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:5‭-‬8 But if we sin on purpose that's totally different according to the word... For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and a fierceness of fire which will devour the adversaries. A man who disregards Moses’ law dies without compassion on the word of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment do you think he will be judged worthy of who has trodden under foot the Son of God, and has counted the blood of the covenant with which he was sanctified an unholy thing, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:26‭-‬29
@Damian.Williams
@Damian.Williams 5 жыл бұрын
@Puppet 777 so no scripture to back up your theory of church age ? As Paul says in a number of places that those who come to Messiah are no longer Gentiles but are the children or seed (literally “sperm,” which is the meaning of the Greek word) of Abraham (Eph 2:11-19; Rom 4:16; 9:8-11; Gal 3:7,9,14,28-29). The word Gentiles as used in the Scriptures (both in the Hebrew and the Greek languages) simply means ethnic groups or nations. There are many places in the Scriptures where Jews and Israelites are referred to as “Gentiles.” There is no class of people called Gentiles in the spiritual body of Messiah. Scripture uses the following terms for the redeemed of God: the saints, the called out ones (or church), the body of Messiah (1 Cor 10:16; 12:27; Eph 4:12) the one new man (Eph 2:15), sons of God (Rom 8:14, 19; Phil 2:15; 1 John 3:1, 2), children of God (Rom 8:16, 21; Gal 3:26; 1 John 3:10), or Abraham’s offspring (Gal 3:29), for example.... There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring and heirs according to promise. Galatians 3:28-29 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called "the uncircumcision" by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands- remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL AND STRANGERS TO THE COVENANTS OF PROMISE, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. Ephesians 2:11‭-‬13
@Damian.Williams
@Damian.Williams 5 жыл бұрын
@Puppet 777 my understanding is that we must first Know what sin is, then when we've gained the knowledge of truth we repent (turn away from sin) how many times did our Messiah say go and sin no more? For example if your a Murderer and you repent and you are forgiven... then you continue to murder people have you truly repented? What does scripture say?... My little children, I write these things to you so that you may not sin. If anyone sins, we have a Counselor with the Father, Jesus Christ, the righteous. And he is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the whole world. This is how we know that we know him: if we keep his commandments. One who says, “I know him,” and doesn’t keep his commandments, is a liar, and the truth isn’t in him. But whoever keeps his word, God’s love has most certainly been perfected in him. This is how we know that we are in him: he who says he remains in him ought himself also to walk just like he walked. 1 John 2:1‭-‬6
@toobadits_sebas4236
@toobadits_sebas4236 6 жыл бұрын
For you, salvation is by grace through faith but you must keep it through works. So when the Bible clearly states "For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ", the term gift isn't correct cuz for you salvation (thus eternal life) is a reward obtained by good works and not a gift obtained by grace.
@unlearnthelies
@unlearnthelies 6 жыл бұрын
Do you always put words into the mouth of other people? I have never taught what you are saying.
@michaelrogottie9197
@michaelrogottie9197 5 жыл бұрын
I see you are as lost as one can be.
@IWasGivenRest
@IWasGivenRest 5 жыл бұрын
Please read James. God bless
@dishikadillon
@dishikadillon 5 жыл бұрын
You can't change scripture
@dishikadillon
@dishikadillon 5 жыл бұрын
Go and look at the bible and tell God he's wrong.
@chickbowdrie4750
@chickbowdrie4750 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, a teacher who is addressing the most obviously scriptures that debunk the Always Saved false doctrine. This is absolutely refreshing.
@wolfwatchers
@wolfwatchers Жыл бұрын
here's some he didn't address Titus3:5 He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Philippians 3:9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith. Romans1:17 For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.” Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, Romans 4:6 And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him… Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus Romans 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. John3:15-17 that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.… John6:47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. colossians1:20 and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross. psalm103:10 He has not dealt with us according to our sins or repaid us according to our iniquities. psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. 2 corrin 5:19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.
@mr72rosalind
@mr72rosalind Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lex. I also thought we must hold on to our faith until the end, just like Paul said, "I've run the good race until the end"...of my life! (paraphrasing). Thank you again for your very, very thoughtful commentary.
@philipbuckley759
@philipbuckley759 Жыл бұрын
salvation, is a process, not an event.....
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 Жыл бұрын
@@philipbuckley759 Salvation is Not a " process" it is a one time event. Once you put your faith/ belief in Jesus Christ you are sealed with The Holy Spirit until the Day of Redemption. Once saved always saved by Grace through faith in Christ Alone nothing more nothing less. Now on The other hand discipleship is costly and will cost you everything. Now discipleship is a Sanctification process. Period. Again SALVATION IS A FREE GIFT FROM GOD AND NOT OF OURSELVES BY DOING WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. LET ALL POWER GLORY HONOR PRAISE AND THANKS BE TO THE ALMIGHTY SOVEREIGN LIVING TRIUNE GOD IN HEAVEN FOREVER AND EVER AND ALWAYS IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME AMEN HALLELUJAH ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️
@johnarnold3696
@johnarnold3696 Жыл бұрын
Paul was not holding on hoping to make it to the end.. That would designate that one must do certain works with a certain determination and attitude to keep saved. Jesus said there is nothing good in man. It is only by the blood of Jesus. He PAID our penalty in full. Jesus offers His work of salvation to those who believe. HE is the one that does the saving and HE promises that those who believe un HIM are declared righteous when born again. It is a one time event when Jesus imputes and puts on our account HIS righteousness. In order for one to be lost after salvation, would mean that Jesus's righteousness would have to fail, which can NEVER happen. It is His righteousness, and not ours at all What a tragedy that man would think that his own imperfect works from his own sinful nature is part of God's wonderful salvation. Jesus
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 Жыл бұрын
@@johnarnold3696 Amen brother ❤️🙏 ( our works are like Filthy rags " ) anything we put in the place OF OUR LORD'S INNOCENT POWERFUL PRECIOUS BLOOD for salvation is nothing but Filthy rags.
@RenardGarzaro
@RenardGarzaro Жыл бұрын
Jesus said his sheep would do so.
@Ripkord
@Ripkord 6 жыл бұрын
What about Romans 7:19 ? For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do-this I keep on doing. I struggle with Pornography, some times i can withstand and sometimes not. I want to do good and not pleasure myself but most of the times i struggle to withstand ! I tried my whole life to find a woman for me, yet i find none ! I even come to think that God doesnt want me to have a woman, yet i struggle to beleave even that ! How is it even possible not to do sin ? Is this sin engraved in my flesh ? Because i spiritually want to do all the things Jesus commanded us to do and i agree fully with the law spiritually, so how is it possible ? I feel like i contradict myself.. beeing a hypocrite by telling people not to do specific things and yet i end up doing them myself, i wholeheartedly hate this behavior. I hate this sinfull body of mine ! Please help me understand this ! Year for year i study the Texts, iam 34 right now and sometimes i think i understood the topic, but as soon i sin again, everything starts over, questioning my salvation, my behavior, end up crying not to know how to flee all these things....
@tigranvoskanyan5411
@tigranvoskanyan5411 6 жыл бұрын
*Watch * Once Saved Always Saved by Pastor Steven Anderson
@verdadabsoluta9756
@verdadabsoluta9756 6 жыл бұрын
God wants to deliver you but you need to walk on faith. Follow the advice on proverbs 28:13. Maybe you just confess your sin and you did not depart from it. Depart means to cut off all your access to pornography. Conviction is key because God sees the heart. God be with you.
@LouLouLion
@LouLouLion 6 жыл бұрын
Watch Renee Roland here on KZbin. Please! My eyes were just opened after praying for truth for 7 months and God confirmed it to me. Please give it a chance and just watch a few and I pray God leads you to truth and He blesses you.
@LouLouLion
@LouLouLion 6 жыл бұрын
@@saltydog9340 the deliverance is denying what Jesus did on the Cross and saying its not sufficient by trusting in your own works for salvation. That's trampling the Son of God underfoot. We cannot save ourselves or be in charge of our own salvation or we are all destined to hell. And I know you cannot think you're self-righteous brother. Please be honest. Repent is metaneo in Greek which means "change your mind." God repented!
@clefire17
@clefire17 6 жыл бұрын
You should be listening to bible believing church and KJV only and dispensation, try gene kim. You will open your eyes out of confusion
@jesusislord2457
@jesusislord2457 6 жыл бұрын
Is this what this verse is about? Luke 9:62 ~ And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, (sic), plow and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
@DaltonHBrown
@DaltonHBrown 2 жыл бұрын
"You were never truly saved to begin with." That is exactly what Jesus was talking about when he said "Judge not." How the heck can anyone presume to know what is in the heart of another person?
@thelegendofneo
@thelegendofneo 2 жыл бұрын
It’s truly sad. Are there people who have never known God and think they do? Of course. I was one of them. But that’s not the case for everybody. There are people who have known God and have strayed away. I also did that earlier in my walk and I saw what it was like to start to get entangled again to what I was freed from. And that’s according to the Bible and what it says. To presume that if u went away u were never actually a Christian with real faith is not biblical at all. It’s just a human concept that people keep spurting out so that they can remain consistent with their wrong ideas and doctrines. People need to really experience and know the Lord not just know about him through knowledge in their head. We have to judge correctly through the Spirit not through human reasoning and outward appearances.
@DaltonHBrown
@DaltonHBrown 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelegendofneo I agree. I think of the prodigal son parable. In that parable, you have the (older) son who has been with his father everyday, yet still doesn't know Him well enough to know that all his father's possessions belong to him. He *thought* he knew his father but really, the younger son knew him better.
@Th3BigBoy
@Th3BigBoy Жыл бұрын
That same Jesus told us. So did His apostle John. "You will know them by their fruit" "He who sins is of the devil"
@michaelstanley4698
@michaelstanley4698 5 жыл бұрын
'Once saved always saved' is true for the 'true' hearted believer that truly loves Christ Jesus (1Cor.16:22) 'in sincerity' (Eph.6:24), but it becomes a stumblingblock for those that do not 'draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having their hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and their bodies washed with pure water' of the Word (Heb.10:22), as apostle Paul points out also to his 'own son in the faith' (1Tim.1:2,5,19). 'Once saved always saved' can be oversimplified by novices and made into a 'damnable heresy' 'by reason of whom The Way of Truth shall be evil spoken of...' (2Pet.2:1-3). Like apostle Paul writes, 'yea, let God be true, but every man a liar... there is none righteous, no, not one...' when 'There is no fear of God before their eyes'. Thus, like Paul, let us all 'rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh' so as to 'walk after men' (Rom.3:4,10,18, Phil.3:3, 1Cor.3:3). Paul trumpets this saying, 'Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of The World, and not after Christ' (Col.2:8).
@gospelmusicfans2048
@gospelmusicfans2048 4 жыл бұрын
You need to be careful not lead someone astray
@michaelstanley4698
@michaelstanley4698 4 жыл бұрын
@@gospelmusicfans2048 Jn.3:27
@gospelmusicfans2048
@gospelmusicfans2048 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelstanley4698 there will be falling away that How someone lose their salvation we shouldn't. believe everyone you hear on KZbin be careful
@michaelstanley4698
@michaelstanley4698 4 жыл бұрын
@@gospelmusicfans2048 Ps.149:4
@therealgoodnews4804
@therealgoodnews4804 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Stanley No, it’s not true. Ever. The “always saved” part is true, but WE don’t get ourselves saved. It’s all Him. He gets ALL the credit and Glory, WE get none.
@tiwanstrong1413
@tiwanstrong1413 5 жыл бұрын
Once saved always saved... Or else.... Twice lost always lost.... I mean, who do these people think they are in the eyes of the Lord? ALL SOULS ARE LOST... that's a fact.... Jesus saves those that are lost.... THAT'S A FACT.... Sinners are dead in God's eyes.... THAT'S A FACT... Sinners CANNOT help God save them... THAT'S A FACT!!!
@vincent7156
@vincent7156 5 жыл бұрын
I seen many post on vodeos like theses but you posted a awesome post. God Bless.
@therealgoodnews4804
@therealgoodnews4804 4 жыл бұрын
destined destined I like it brother! Keep preaching! It’s good to hear some Truth once in a while I tell you! :). Amen.
@michaelrogottie9197
@michaelrogottie9197 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, Please study, 1. The believer has everlasting or eternal life. John 5:24: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 10:28: “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” 2. The believer is born of God. John 1:12-13: “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” 3. Christ will raise every believer up at the last day. John 6:44-47: “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, and they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” 4. The believer has already passed from death unto life. John 5:24: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” 5. The believer is not the object of God’s wrath. John 3:36: “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” 6. Believer are God’s sheep. John 10:2-4: “But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.” 7. The believer will not listen to nor follow a stranger, but will flee from him. John 10:5: “And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.” (The stranger here is Satan and his false teachers.) 8. The believer is known of God. John 10:14: “I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.” 9. The believer listens to the voice of the shepherd. John 10:27: “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” 10. The believer is in Christ’s hand and cannot be plucked out. John 10:28: “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” 11. The believer is in the Father’s hand and cannot be plucked out. John 10:29: “My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” 12. The shepherd is charged with the responsibility of keeping the sheep. John 10:11-14: “I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.” 13. The believer is not condemned. John 3:18: “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” 14. The believer shall never thirst. John 4:14: “But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.” 15. The believer will keep Christ’s commandments. John 14:23: “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” 16. The believer is secure because of Christ’s prayer. John 17:9-12: “I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee, Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.” 17. The believer shall never die. John 11:26: “And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” 18. The believer to be kept from the evil. John 17:15: “I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.” Jesus prays that the believer may be kept from the Devil. Was this prayer answered? 19. The believer to be with Christ in glory. John 17:24: “Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.” 20. The believer shall never hunger. John 6:35: “And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.” 21. The believer will in no wise be cast out (Not under any circumstance). John 6:37: “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.” 22. Christ will not lose a single believer. John 6:39: “And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.” 23. Christ will raise up the believer at the last day. John 6:38-40: “For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.” 24. Whosoever eats the bread of life shall never die. John 6:51: “I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” 25. Because the Holy Spirit abides in the believer forever. John 14:16-17: “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.” 26. Because it is the Father’s will that Christ should lose nothing. John 6:39: “And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.” 27. Because one cannot be unborn. John 3:5: “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” 28. The believer will follow Christ. John 10:27: “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” Following Christ, can one be lost? Have we any right to add to God’s Word by inserting if” to the passage?
@trout_man6200
@trout_man6200 5 жыл бұрын
This guy does not know the bible.
@kathyhenderson2114
@kathyhenderson2114 4 жыл бұрын
Amen, Amen and Amen!! This is the truth! I especially love the book of John.... OSAS IS the truth and VERY biblical!
@kennethfew7866
@kennethfew7866 4 жыл бұрын
This guy do know the bible
@awanaismylife
@awanaismylife 4 жыл бұрын
Michael, I think the verse you quoted actually demonstrates this very concept: "He that HEARETH my word, and BELIEVETH...hath everlasting life." If you are no longer hearing and believing in Jesus, can you still claim this promise? It looks conditional to me. If you do HEAR and BELIEVE, then absolutely, everlasting life is for you. But if you used to do those and then STOP doing so, you are no longer fulfilling the conditional part.
@labae8728
@labae8728 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennethfew7866 he knows it but does not fully tell the truth about it
@Hun7erGaming
@Hun7erGaming 2 жыл бұрын
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.
@LetsTalkChristMinistries
@LetsTalkChristMinistries 2 жыл бұрын
They follow Him. If they stop following or turn around, seems they can be plucked. To those who are genuine, they can’t be plucked.
@Hun7erGaming
@Hun7erGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@LetsTalkChristMinistries yeah only the weeds will be uprooted
@Hun7erGaming
@Hun7erGaming 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about what we believe. It's about the truth. Hope it's the truth that you believe. It's always easier to defend what we believe than to accept that we do not know. Pride is really embeded in human nature. That's why it is said we have to die. We stop seeking the moment we trust ourselves. To many here, you knew in your heart you are still in the dark, else you will not be afraid damnation. Just don't stop seeking until you see. God promised you will if you are His. No one can be a witness without seeing first hand, we should always remember: a person witnessing based on hearsay is a false witness.
@Hun7erGaming
@Hun7erGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robert-xp4bn Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live
@Hun7erGaming
@Hun7erGaming 2 жыл бұрын
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
@jasonlayman8817
@jasonlayman8817 6 жыл бұрын
This guy differently gets God's message. It's so great to finally hear someone preach the truth.
@flyingsourdough1619
@flyingsourdough1619 6 жыл бұрын
This guy is a liar. You can't lose your salvation For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. -Ephesians 2:8-9
@cohencyrus5337
@cohencyrus5337 6 жыл бұрын
@@flyingsourdough1619 this isn't confirmation of enternal saving..it's written God does forgive our sins..do u mean we shallnot sin again
@jasonlayman8817
@jasonlayman8817 5 жыл бұрын
It's only in trusting God that we obey him. God clearly told us that the lawless he will not know. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart ye that work iniquity.
@flyingsourdough1619
@flyingsourdough1619 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlayman8817 That verse explains salvation is not of works
@joshleyshon1985
@joshleyshon1985 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlayman8817 If a man puts his trust in the gospel for salvation and then falls into sin, what should he do to gain his salvation back? 2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Do I need to trust that he paid for my sin in full and rose from the dead in order to get saved again?
@ADONAIsays-so
@ADONAIsays-so 6 жыл бұрын
"Carnal Christians" are believers. Demons believe...There's a difference. God's people, as the OT Hebrews, believed, but yet not all were/are elected to salvation. IF you believe God chooses whom he saves, and you have no part in your salvation, as in , it's all the work of the Messiah, and you say you can turn away as one He has chosen, then you hold more power than He, and I don't buy that at all! I believe the first groupe you described.
@DanielStewart80
@DanielStewart80 8 ай бұрын
The 2 Peter 3:17 verse is unrelated to the issues of both salvation and the relative security thereof. Take care and God Bless.
@outerspace6236
@outerspace6236 11 ай бұрын
Imagine the broken down, traumatized, drug addicted/alcoholic sinner that believes the gospel yet is never quite able to leave those addictions behind. The broken down man or woman that believes the gospel and says "forgive me Lord, a sinner". Then imagine the upstanding person that says "I'm so glad I'm not like these others. I quit smoking, drinking, watching movies, i look away everytime i see an ungodly image, i quit having wicked thoughts. I have worked so hard to keep my salvation." Which one went down to their house justified?
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 10 ай бұрын
HEARERS VS DOERS Romans 2: 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; Do you simply hear the right path or are you walking in the right path the narrow gate. If I attend every college lecture does that mean I will do well n all assignments and exams? No. I have greater odds of doing well but I might not. There are people who know very little in comparison to you yet do well. Attending Church is good but living life as a Christian passes the test.
@timothyokeefejr6019
@timothyokeefejr6019 3 жыл бұрын
Many people want a License to sin..They listen to teachers and have itching ears..They want to hear an easy version where everyone gets a participation trophy just for saying a prayer one time..
@AlexxTehGreat
@AlexxTehGreat 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone can say they believe and have faith, aka most Sunday only Christians who worship their own Jesus. If you believe a tornado will shred your house tomorrow, you will naturally prepare for that event. If someone really believes and has faith, they will repent and overcome wickedness, continue to grow and value being set apart to have a living relationship. So many people love clinging to OSAS because they can continue to live wicked lives, without repentance or relationship, and claim that we as humans will always be sinners and theres nothing we can do so might as well induldge in sin.
@tommymcdonagh8566
@tommymcdonagh8566 5 жыл бұрын
Their is no once saved always saved that teaches that. They don't live in sin.
@jimmyblackwell6132
@jimmyblackwell6132 4 жыл бұрын
Great word spoken here with the book. Clear to see. I was once heavy into grace as an excuse to sin. I was miserable. No more.....I have chosen Christ as my savior. Not a doctrine. You know......being in Christ brings much joy. I do not want to mock, fall, or walk away.
@kenshiloh
@kenshiloh 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. It is absolutely true, 'once saved, always saved.' Remember that salvation is to know Christ, "This is eternal life, that you know God and Jesus Christ Whom He has sent." A person who falls away never knew the Lord, as it is written, "Love never fails." If 'love' fails, it was never really love in the first place; if someone denies the Lord permanently, then they were never saved in the first place; if a person loves sin but professes Christ, they are a tare among the wheat, a wolf in sheep's clothing, a false convert. Jesus said that whoever believes in Him will have rivers of living water bubbling up within them. Do you know the Lord? Are you seated in the heavenlies with Christ? Does the Holy Spirit bear witness with your spirit that you are a child of God? Remember that salvation is a personal encounter with the Lord. Simply confessing or going to church does nothing unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit. Ask and you shall receive! If you are not certain about your salvation, you probably are not saved! Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig 2 жыл бұрын
If you used assurance as an excuse to sin you didn't understand the doctrine correctly...what did Paul teach in romans 1-5 that caused him to anticipate an objection in romans 6:1 what then shall we say shall we continue to sin that grace may abound, certainly not...
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig 2 жыл бұрын
Understanding that He finished the work and justified us on the Cross will cause us to love and serve him more in humble obedience because we have such a great savior that was willing to die for us.
@kenshiloh
@kenshiloh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Adam-ue2ig Hi Adam. In all respect, you have it backwards. That is, once saved, always saved is totally true. That said, only the Holy Spirit knows who is saved. To gain salvation, a person must be filled with the Holy Spirit. Jesus said, "Whoever believes in Me will have rivers of living water bubbling inside them to eternal life." Conversely, if a person does not have an encounter with God, if they are not filled with the Holy Spirit, if they do not have those rivers of living water, neither are they saved. Moreover, Jesus said, "Whoever loves Me will keep My Commandments." Many Christians misunderstand the Lord. That is, it is not a guilt trip as in, "If you love me - prove it!" Instead, it is a 'cause and effect.' Just like the sun lights the morning sky, so those who know the Lord breathe every breath to the glory of God. In fact, those who have been born again have total freedom. As it is written, "All things are lawful..." for those who believe. That is, I am totally free to do whatever I want, whenever I want. If you disagree, I will be very concerned for you. That is because those who are saved have total freedom, but they live only to do the will of the Father. Yet, do you think in terms of, "If I had total freedom, I would be in sin; I would get lazy in my faith"? Not so for those in Christ. Total freedom means freedom to seek the Lord with all their heart, freedom to give all to Christ. If you do not have that kind of faith, it is time to get right with God. Thank the Lord for filling you with the Holy Spirit; ask in total faith in the promises of God. Unless you are born again, you cannot enter heaven. That said, your comment smacks of someone who has not yet had a personal encounter with God; otherwise you would understand what freedom in Christ is. If you have the Holy Spirit living in you, you understand what total freedom is all about. Ask and you shall receive! Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@Adam-ue2ig
@Adam-ue2ig 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenshiloh nothing backwards about what I said, and its not a mystery each believer can know whether or not they have the Holy Spirit.
@augustineusikhifo64
@augustineusikhifo64 7 ай бұрын
Being saved is like admission into the university. If you don't submit yourself to the programs laid out by the school then you can't end up as a graduate student. So also every newly saved believer must commit himself to the programs and teachings of salvation to mature into a worthy candidate of the righteous kingdom to come.
@VengefulPolititron
@VengefulPolititron Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows the verses I do.. but you presented them concisely, better than I could. thankyou! Perfect video
@VengefulPolititron
@VengefulPolititron Жыл бұрын
too bad this guy is wrong on everything else. everything that matters. this first video was good, but the rest is garbage.
@charlesmargolin2226
@charlesmargolin2226 Жыл бұрын
The speaker in this video does not understand the doctrine of once saved is always saved because he does not believe in the pretribulational rapture of the church off of this earth & into heaven.. or.. that a Christian can commit a sin unto his own physical death..I believe in the doctrine of OSAS..but I also believe that once a lost person is saved..he will not always be saved (in a physical body while still living on this earth) ..because he can be raptured off of the earth & because he does not believe that a carnal & backsliden Christian can commit a sin which will cause Christ to shorten his life upon this earth.. by putting him into heaven prematurely..I like Jews for Jesus & Chosen People ministries instead..both of are which are better..being that they are more biblical.
@PETERJOHN101
@PETERJOHN101 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesmargolin2226 Your doctrine is found no where in the bible. Salvation in the New Testament is always in the future or future perfect tense, as Jesus says in Matthew 24:13. You can't lose what you don't already have.
@VengefulPolititron
@VengefulPolititron Жыл бұрын
@@PETERJOHN101 agreed. Paul said he didn't believe he already had it. Paul warned that he should keep his body under control so that he would not forfeit or be disqualified for salvation. We are in the process of being saved. No one is saved or safe. OSAS is a Lie. It's only true from the perspective of Heaven.. that all that WOULD BE saved... finally ARE. But from an earthly perspective, we cannot know that. Jesus also warns: "those that endure to the end, will be saved." some won't endure. many will fall away. Polls and behavior indicate perhaps 90% of self proclaimed Christians, are false.. and will turn away. Also, there is no rapture, until most of us are martyred. Matthew 24
@malcolm716
@malcolm716 Жыл бұрын
@@VengefulPolititronSo how could Jesus say, (I “NEVER” knew you) to someone who held the Faith at some point… Jesus would have had to know them
@jeffrop.koaltrain5406
@jeffrop.koaltrain5406 6 жыл бұрын
I am saved, being saved and will be saved.
@malachi00000007
@malachi00000007 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@user-qt6zt3ls9l
@user-qt6zt3ls9l 2 жыл бұрын
Sanctification, Justification and finally, Glorification
@roncrawford2706
@roncrawford2706 2 жыл бұрын
I am eternally saved because no one can separate me from the love Jesus. ROMANS 8 31-39
@user-qt6zt3ls9l
@user-qt6zt3ls9l 2 жыл бұрын
@@roncrawford2706 is that what Paul said? Or is that what YOU said? Is Paul talking about salvation there? Or is he talking about the love of Christ?
@jeffrop.koaltrain5406
@jeffrop.koaltrain5406 2 жыл бұрын
@@roncrawford2706 me too
@markbibb1221
@markbibb1221 5 жыл бұрын
Amen To This Proper Teaching.
@Lion_not_a_sheep83
@Lion_not_a_sheep83 6 ай бұрын
"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins." Hebrews 10:26
@forYAHSglory
@forYAHSglory 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your ministry. I have spent my life a Catholic. Your word has helped me drop the shackles of Babylon and be a Christian. This message really hit home.
@chantalszemenyei4523
@chantalszemenyei4523 2 жыл бұрын
Wauw! 🙏🏼
@Sherlock245
@Sherlock245 2 жыл бұрын
Pls stay away from this ministry it's very unbiblical and get you to be like a Mormon.
@Sherlock245
@Sherlock245 2 жыл бұрын
He teaches that Elijah never ascended into heaven, the thief on the cross next to Jesus didn’t go to heaven, and the idea that we go to heaven is pagan and might be the biggest lie we’ve ever been told.
@Robbie09
@Robbie09 Жыл бұрын
Catholics are Christians. Those that believe in Christ and follow his word are Christians.
@josephssewagudde8156
@josephssewagudde8156 Жыл бұрын
Then you left the trunk and followed a fallen away branch. Catholics teach that only those who die in the state of grace of God are saved. Is that different from Mathew 24:13?
@donnabrown-white7930
@donnabrown-white7930 3 жыл бұрын
Oh thanks to Jesus ! When we are truly saved then we will want to stay close & keep learning so we can go from glory to glory in him as we keep growing in him 🙏🙏💕💕
@chickbowdrie4750
@chickbowdrie4750 2 жыл бұрын
Therrs actually no verse that supports this idea
@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG
@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG Жыл бұрын
​@@chickbowdrie4750have you experienced what is described by Donna?
@chickbowdrie4750
@chickbowdrie4750 Жыл бұрын
@@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG Is there a verse that backs up what Donna is saying?
@BiG_SorD
@BiG_SorD 5 жыл бұрын
You can’t lose salvation. If you are truly converted you can’t fall away. Whom the father chooses will make it to the end. Ephesians 1-2.
@truthdontsleep1819
@truthdontsleep1819 4 жыл бұрын
@steve carson Once saved always saved is the gospel Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 1 Corinthians 15:1‭-‬4 KJV Once saved you are eternally sealed with the holy spirit In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13 KJV Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 1 Peter 1:5 KJV
@lesliecrawford1336
@lesliecrawford1336 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can! Why is there a falling away coming before the man of sin is revealed?? It’s not the nonbelievers who are falling away here, it’s the Christians.
@ttff-bd2yf
@ttff-bd2yf 2 жыл бұрын
@@lesliecrawford1336 it violates the basic premise of salvation. That version of Christianity just replaces blood sacrifices with saying your sorry.
@peterpulpitpounder
@peterpulpitpounder 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@jacobwoods614
@jacobwoods614 2 жыл бұрын
1 John 2:19
@eneeland
@eneeland Жыл бұрын
I agree with you completely. But there is a bit of a problem with the verses you showed. One says: "And they also, it they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again." The other earlier verse: "For it is impossible for those once enlightened...to renew them again to repentance..." Any ideas on how to make those two verses work in harmony?
@messiahswordsfirst6992
@messiahswordsfirst6992 6 жыл бұрын
You absolutely NAILED IT with this one, Brother! Well done!
@michaelrogottie9197
@michaelrogottie9197 5 жыл бұрын
@Ritchie Blackmore Would you be the one who played with Deep Purple?
@IWasGivenRest
@IWasGivenRest 5 жыл бұрын
@Ritchie Blackmore Please stop using that verse out of context!!! You forgot verse 10!!
@IWasGivenRest
@IWasGivenRest 5 жыл бұрын
@Ritchie Blackmore Yes that is correct but your faith is evident by your works. I didn't know if you were suggesting otherwise. Many people use that verse out of context to suggest that works are not required at all and you can continue sinning and other nonsense. Glad to see otherwise, God bless.
@IWasGivenRest
@IWasGivenRest 5 жыл бұрын
@Ritchie Blackmore I never said you were wrong, I said a lot of people think that works are wrong entirely and that you don't need them in anyway. Yes, at the end of the day we cannot see a persons heart but Jesus did give us a way to see a true believer. Matthew 7:15-20 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
@IWasGivenRest
@IWasGivenRest 5 жыл бұрын
@Ritchie Blackmore I agree.
@boynton20
@boynton20 5 жыл бұрын
We are saved by grace thru faith
@TheBibleSays
@TheBibleSays 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! *Through* faith . . . NOT just because we *have* faith. *Through* faith that God exists and rewards, we could, and might, choose to "come to God" on His terms: ⚫ "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." (Hebrews 11:6) It's the choice - to "come to God" on His terms - that matters. For THAT we are promised His mercy: ⚫ "And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent" (Acts 17:30) ⚫ "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13) ⚫ "Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him . . . " (Isaiah 55:7)
@Jonathan-tw4xm
@Jonathan-tw4xm Жыл бұрын
amen
@juststen9016
@juststen9016 3 жыл бұрын
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
@libertypastor1307
@libertypastor1307 2 жыл бұрын
Great scriptures that prove he is wrong in his teaching!
@ayraykaykay4958
@ayraykaykay4958 2 жыл бұрын
@Janaina Ribeiro can you find a verse to support that?
@fillup901
@fillup901 8 ай бұрын
Brother you have to use CONTEXT to interpret the bible. Otherwise we end up interpreting to whatever we think a verse or parable means. Also you cant do that with a new translation because they're not consistent. If you can lose your salvation then... 1. Why are there no clear verses about losing your salvation, only parables which can be interpreted that way? 2. Why are there only clear verses about salvation not being by works, and on faith alone? 3. So we're not good enough to earn our salvation but we're good enough to retain it? 4. If obedience to the law is considered works, Ro 2:6-10 & 15, then why is obediency necessary to be saved? 5. If repentence is considered work, then why is repentence necessary to be saved? 6. How exactly do we get saved? What must we do? How many good deeds, prayers, confession, church attendance, repentance is necessary? 7. Why did Jesus say I NEVER knew you (as in they were never saved) in Mt 7:21 to the ppl who relied on their WORKS for salvation saved? 8. Why did Paul say Abraham was justified by his faith unto God, not by his works in Ro 4:3? 9. If Paul said Abraham was justified by works, but NOT BEFORE God, then who was he justified unto by his works? (unto men Lk 16:15) 10. Why is there not one single verse that mentions getting saved by works? 11. Did the guy on the cross next to Jesus not get saved even though Jesus told him he would be? He did zero works 12. Wouldn't works salvation mean all Christians are going to hell? We all covet via our phones and many are gluttons/overweight. 13. Sin = death, but Jesus gave us life, so what did Jesus mean when he said we'll never die as long as we believe? 14. Jesus said we "hath" (present tense) eternal life, but if we can lose it doesn't that mean it's not eternal? 15. Doesn't works salvation make it partly about me? (I pray daily, I confess my sins, I go to church, I help the poor) 16. Adding to the previous question, what did Paul mean when he said, "salvation is by faith so that no man can boast?" 17. How can it be a gift of God if he expects ANYTHING from us besides believing? 18. Our biological dads don't claim we're no longer their kids for disobeying, but God, being the greatest of all Fathers, does? 19. Jesús sacrifice made us perfect, which means getting saved or being made whole James 1:4. If we must work to be saved, is Jesus's sacrifice not perfect or complete since we have to contribute to it, and what does he mean by making us perfect? 20. How do you explain He 7:19, which says "for the law made nothing perfect?" 21. If keeping the commandments are required for salvation, is Paul in hell, because he said in Ro 7:15-25 he does that which he hates (can't stop sinning) 22. How can you keep God's commandments if Jesus says you can do nothing without me? 23. If you say I pray, I confess, I do this or do that to be saved, then how do you explain "salvation is by faith alone, lest any man SHOULD BOAST. 24. Why does God NEVER say the Israelites lost their title as His children after they commit a transgression? 25. Fire is used as a metaphor for purifying, discipline, and hell, so how do we know some parallels are speaking about hell? 26. Why is there no verse stating that getting saved is hard or difficult? It mentions trials, but not overcoming them as a requirement for salvation. 27. In John 15:16, Mt 28:19-20, Mk 3:14, and many others, Jesus "ordains" us to "go and bring forth fruit." In Mark 3:14 Jesus ordains the apostles to go "forth to preach." Hence, do we lose our salvation if we dont get others saved? 28. What did Paul mean in Ro 7:10 "And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death?" 29. What did Jesus mean when he said we would know that we are saved? If we can lose it, then you never know when you're saved 30. If obedience to the law is a type of works 31. Why did John say, nothing can separate us from Him, including "no man?" 32. How can we follow his commandments if we don't abound in him? 33. How is 2 Co 9:8 "every man according as he purposeth IN HIS HEART, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity" if works are needed to be saved? 34. Which verses state that we must change our habits, 35. Scripture says our faith is COUNTED unto righteousness, meaning we were given something which we could never qualify for, so how can we say we must do something to acquire salvation? 36. If we can get repeatedly saved, what did Paul mean in He 10:14 when he said he "hath perfected us ONCE?" 37. If we can get repeatedly saved, what did Paul mean in He 10:14 when he said he "hath perfected us FOREVER?" 38. John 6:37, them who the Father gives me I will not cast out. If we sin willfully or not but still want to live in Him, isn't he casting us out?
@FRN2013
@FRN2013 4 жыл бұрын
I was saved from the penalty of sin. I am being saved from the power of sin. I will be saved from the presence of sin.
@bailujen8052
@bailujen8052 3 жыл бұрын
You were saved from sin. Not the penalty of it because sin is the reason why we have penalties
@jessicafernandes3974
@jessicafernandes3974 3 жыл бұрын
@@bailujen8052 Yeshua took our penalty...he took our punishment that we deserved!!
@bailujen8052
@bailujen8052 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicafernandes3974 Jesus died so we can have the opportunity to be saved through obedience
@millenniumenvoy8114
@millenniumenvoy8114 3 жыл бұрын
@@bailujen8052 to obey the gospel, which is to believe on Christ
@timothyseals3791
@timothyseals3791 3 жыл бұрын
@@millenniumenvoy8114 Obeying the gospel is more than belief on Christ.
@robm567
@robm567 5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree that assurance does not give license to act anyway you wish. That is a gross misunderstanding of the doctrine. However, in order to come to the conclusion that you can lose true salvation , is also a misunderstanding. All sin was paid for at the cross, otherwise, Jesus blood was not enough. God's election is irrelevant and we are responsible for our own Salvation by works. If you can lose your salvation in this way, then David a man after God's own heart was saved, then unsaved and based on your interpretation of Hebrews 6, could not be saved again... No, when truly saved, works follow but they do not save... Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5, Romans 8 etc. You would have to throw out Psalm 121 for example if you thought that you were responsible or even able to somehow preserve yourself, or Jude for that matter. The key is "true salvation". To be regenerated by the Holy Spirit is to be sealed in Jesus. John 10 makes this so plain. My sheep hear my voice and they follow me. And I give them eternal life and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of my hand. My Father who has given them to me is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of my Fathers hand.i and my Father are one" I looked up "never" in the dictionary. It means never.
@cle5823
@cle5823 5 жыл бұрын
Someone doesn't know how to read and understand the Bible... 2 Timothy 2:15 says Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. For instance, Matthew 24 is for the Jews during the Tribulation. The Church will not be here. Once we are SEALED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, WE ARE ETERNALLY SECURE.
@GoRightlyDivide
@GoRightlyDivide 5 жыл бұрын
C&L E you’re so right!
@BloodandSoil990
@BloodandSoil990 2 жыл бұрын
So if someone truly gives their life to God and becomes a new person in Him and then later on down the road that person unfortunately back slides, has that person just lost his or her salvation?
@lesliecrawford1336
@lesliecrawford1336 2 жыл бұрын
If that person has not truly repented and hasn’t turned back to God, yes. God is fair.
@hymnsake
@hymnsake 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain the passages of being born again and being a new creature (2 Corth 5: 17)? I think the point that needs to be address is how can someone be unborn of the Word of G-d (1 Peter 1: 23)
@tigranvoskanyan5411
@tigranvoskanyan5411 6 жыл бұрын
*Watch * Once Saved Always Saved by Pastor Steven Anderson
@poldariser8686
@poldariser8686 6 жыл бұрын
Great question!
@hymnsake
@hymnsake 5 жыл бұрын
Lion Of Judah Yes it does, Thank You. I think his view is that many of these passages are speaking of the resurrection. Don’t know exactly how but that’s what I would be interested in seeing. I’m just getting into soteriology so I wouldn’t judge OSAS by its detractors but it’s exegetical prowess
@looseele
@looseele 6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to respond before watching, like I do sometimes to see if our beliefs line up: What I see in Scripture is that salvation is the reward for a "lifetime" of dedication and that it's completely up to Christ whether or not your name is written in or blotted out of the "Book of Life". I've seen "Christians" completely neglect the concept of producing fruit in exchange for a hedonistic lifestyle based on their belief that they are "saved" due to a one time confession. I've seen other "Christians" work themselves into a joyless existence based on their legalistic deeds and guilty conscience. But what does Christ say about it? He judges a man's heart and he's looking for faith. That faith is this: Does man trust that God has nailed our sins to the cross? Does man truly believe that Christ became sin for us? Does man spread that message with grace and truth? Does man understand that the kingdom of heaven is composed of servants who are well rewarded for their loyalty to God? If a man has these qualities, he will naturally produce fruit and it will be clear to Christ who is worthy of such a distinct honor. That being said, since we have a high priest who is familiar with our plight, I predict that Christ will be much more merciful and compassionate than most "Christians" WANT him to be. I truly believe many Christians want to "go to heaven" (which is another thing altogether) at everyone else's expense rather than Christ's. .....imma watch the video now.
@BokaLokaToka
@BokaLokaToka 6 жыл бұрын
Legalistic means that a person follows scripture. I believe that is the only way to go to heaven. Making stuff up instead of following God's word is a one way ticket to hell.
@turt1231
@turt1231 6 жыл бұрын
@@BokaLokaToka Only way to heaven is being legalistic?
@BokaLokaToka
@BokaLokaToka 6 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Seaman So following scripture is not a good thing? I get called legalistic all the time pointing out scripture that contradicts Once Saved Always Saved and been taking it as a complement.
@LouLouLion
@LouLouLion 6 жыл бұрын
@@BokaLokaToka I felt the same way my whole life, only recently my eyes were opened. If legalistic is the only way to Heaven you just denied Jesus Christ and you're trampling what He did on the Cross underfoot. You're basically saying He got the job done about 70% and your righteousness will take care of the other 30% He couldn't manage. Was Adam above Jesus? Sin entered the world through Eve and Adam, but you don't think God coming in the flesh and dying on a cross can erase it for those who believe on Him? Our righteousness is filthy rags. If you truly try to live out the laws, like the Pharisees, then you will be judged by the law and you better be perfect like Jesus was. Which you won't be as long as you are wrapped in flesh. The law is like a mirror, if you truly try to live it and you're not self-righteous then you will turn yourself inside out and upside down trying to follow all the rules. The point of the law is to get to a desperation and realize you'll never make it without depending on what Jesus did on the cross and putting your salvation into Him, by faith we receive salvation. Also, repenting won't work either. We sin without even knowing it. Anything not done in faith is a sin! Nowhere in the Bible does it say "repent of your sins." It says to repent, but God repented 38 times in the Bible, did He sin? No, stay away from NIV and EST Bible. They have put in interpretations instead of translations. Repent in Strongs Greek Dictionary is metaneo from g3326 and g3539 which means to think differently, or to reconsider. You don't repent of your sins and a sinners prayer is nowhere in the Bible. You have to Change your mind and stop believing in your works to get you there and believe on the death, burial, and ressurection of Jesus for your salvation. 1 Corinthians 1-4 is the true gospel. Good works come when you receive the Spirit of God and you will do them out of love for what He has done for you. It truly is good news! His yoke is easy and His burden is light. If we have to depend on our works then we are all doomed to hell. We can't make it. What Jesus did is sufficient. Our sins will be covered past, present and future. And before you say it, it is not a license to sin. Humans don't need one, they will sin regardless. Then you can actually stop focusing on your falling short and share the good news. God will work in you and start to change you. You will then do better at keeping commandments then you ever did on your own, the difference is you're secure in your salvation instead of always wondering if you're okay. And you leave the salvation up to what he did for you. Abraham's faith was counted for righteousness. We are only righteous once we change our mind and believe only on Jesus to get us there, then God sees the blood of the lamb when He looks at us, not our falling short in works or the law. Take Matt 7:21 the people (what I assume to be pastors) were telling God of all the WORKS they did. They had cast out demons, etc. He said "Depart from me ye WORKERS of iniquity, for I never knew you." He didn't say I used to know you and you forgot to repent of something. They were obviously religious. The people didn't say "Jesus we put our faith in you and I believed on you." They listed their WORKS instead. Why did He never know them? Because they trusted in their WORKS instead of God's grace. They were then judged on the law. I had an epiphany. I've prayed for truth for 7 months and God led me to it. I believed in rules too, just like the Pharisees. Jesus told them the Harlots would make it into heaven before they would. Allow the law to show you you need jesus, don't depend on your works, you'll never make it that way. We are not Jesus. God bless brother and there is a lady that explains this way better than I can. Just hear her out then you can go back to your legalistic views. Type in Renee Roland and only use KJV. Your eyes may be opened like mine were and then when it clicks, and you read your Bible, it will all make much more sense than it ever has and you will wonder how you never saw it before. May God lead you to truth and bless you. The biggest sin is believing on your own works instead of believing on what Christ did on the cross. If it points towards you and not Jesus then its not the right way.
@BokaLokaToka
@BokaLokaToka 6 жыл бұрын
@@LouLouLion That is to much to respond to. Do you feel following Christ and scripture is wrong?
@Poor.and.Bruised.of.Spirit
@Poor.and.Bruised.of.Spirit 2 жыл бұрын
Matthew 24:13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. Matthew 10:22 And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. Mark 13:13 And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. Hebrews 3:14 For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.
@armor_x6439
@armor_x6439 Жыл бұрын
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@billyrobinson6803
@billyrobinson6803 11 ай бұрын
That's the message for the Tribulation period not for us the Church Age!!!!
@billyrobinson6803
@billyrobinson6803 11 ай бұрын
I totally disagree with this this is the False Doctrine on Conditional Security it's completely non biblical concerning the Age of grace or Church Age . This heretical teaching goes back to Dutch reformer named Jacobus Arminius 1560-1609 AKA Arminianism which is the old borred false teachings going back to Pelagius who even denied that people needed the Grace of God to save them but taught that by our own free will we can be living by the examples of the life Jesus lived here on earth giving us simple ways to merit God s goodness for our salvation love one another love God with all your heart,mind etc. And to pick up our crosses and follow the examples of Jesus and our free will is all we need to do good works to merit or to get in God s " good graces" thus be saved up to that point of conversion ALL THE WAY TILL WE DIE then can we ACTUALLY RECEIVE LIFE ETERNAL. but Arminius was at least wise enough to point out in his 5 Remistraital Points where in point 5 The fear of Christians possibly falling from grace he added in that THAT IF we are to teach and warm believers of back sliding or giving up in faith would RESULT IN THEIR LOSING THEIR SALVATION [has to be pointed out in Scriptures and he was of yet to really have TRUE SOLID Bible verses especially of the New Testament to back Conditional security. The argument debate of Eternal Security vs Conditional security can actually be blamed originally on galatianism Trying to live by the Grace of God and mixing The Law together to complete a person's salvation!!!! LEGALISM was the poison the SELF RIGHTEOUS Jewish leaders that was starting to corrupt some of the Xhurch of Galatia
@Poor.and.Bruised.of.Spirit
@Poor.and.Bruised.of.Spirit 11 ай бұрын
@billyrobinson6803 ‭Proverbs‬ ‭18:2‬ ‭ [2] A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. Use scripture not your opinions. Thanks.
@thetruthshallmakeyoufree6122
@thetruthshallmakeyoufree6122 3 ай бұрын
“[8] For it is by grace [God’s remarkable compassion and favor drawing you to Christ] that you have been saved [actually delivered from judgment and given eternal life] through faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [not through your own effort], but it is the [undeserved, gracious] gift of God; [9] not as a result of [your] works [nor your attempts to keep the Law], so that no one will [be able to] boast or take credit in any way [for his salvation].” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭8‬-‭9‬ ‭AMP‬‬
@brunopaxley2837
@brunopaxley2837 5 жыл бұрын
The things you've said and the scriptures you've quoted, I've known them since my time as an atheist. The fact that many professing "christians" delude themselves with the false security of OSAS just blows my mind. Small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
@FamousCube
@FamousCube 3 жыл бұрын
Nowhere in the Bible does it say you can lose your salvation. I will send you $1000 PayPal if you can prove me wrong.
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349 3 жыл бұрын
@@FamousCube Amen brother, and he will never respond. This guy unlearn lies, is literally telling lies. He uses some version of the bible that says: those who are being saved, in the KJV it says those who are saved. This has got to be done on purpose. Pretty insidious lies.
@raygunn965
@raygunn965 3 жыл бұрын
@@FamousCube the unpardonable sin
@tulipv4475
@tulipv4475 2 жыл бұрын
@@raygunn965 can you explain I'm so confused on it tho
@flaviogarza746
@flaviogarza746 2 жыл бұрын
You are those the bible describes in Matt 7: 21-23 KJV
@saberfire2008
@saberfire2008 4 жыл бұрын
I can believe that because if angels in heaven who see God can turn their backs on God then absolutely man can do the same at any point as well.
@Simply4MEnUS
@Simply4MEnUS 4 жыл бұрын
This is thought provoking.
@DJANDNELL
@DJANDNELL 4 жыл бұрын
This passage is to Hebrews in the tribulation. Not church age Christians. Eternal salvation is for us Today
@redeemedandbeloved9607
@redeemedandbeloved9607 4 жыл бұрын
Once saved, always saved! I was 6 when I was saved, 8 when I was baptized. Addiction took hold of my life in my 20s and I denounced my faith. For 10 years I hated Christians and I hated the church. I did not believe in God and saw Christianity as a way to control the masses. I had periods of hating God, not believing in God at all to just believing in some kind of higher power but thinking the Bible was a total sham. Bottom line though was that I wanted to do what I wanted to do and not experience guilt or shame over it. Didn't work lol. God brought me back right before I got sober and now AA teaches me how to have a healthy relationship with God. I ran from God for 10 years but I never lost my salvation even though I didn't believe in it at the time. *God created time and therefore is not bound by it! When I gave my life to him at 6 years old, He forgave me of every sin- past, present and Future including the sin of denying Him before others. He knew when I was 6 years old that I was going to denounce him for 10 years. I know I meant it in my childhood when I became a Christian. I know my name was sealed in the book of Life when I was six years old. I prayed the refiners prayer when I was 18 right before I started using. That's a prayer where we ask God to draw out our impurities. I had no idea what I was in for when I prayed that prayer. There was a lot of junk in my soul that I was not aware of that needed to be brought to the surface. My faith is stronger today because I walked away from God for 10 years. God has used my mess and turned it into a message. I loved God and served God with all my heart in my childhood, teen and early adult years. I decided later that I was not a Christian anymore but because no one could pluck me from his hand, including me, God never let me go. I was His. It seems like people almost forget that God exists outside of time. We see our sins and salvation in a timeline whereas God already knows our entire story. He knew before he made me that I was going to rebel and blaspheme his name. Rebellion is part of my walk with God, and I was already forgiven for it 2,000 years ago on the cross. Putting things into a timeline, I was forgiven for that sin at 6 years old.
@D777-s8b
@D777-s8b 4 жыл бұрын
@risingStar You need to read Hebrews in context. It's talking about people who taste of the Spirit but never get saved. It's talking about the Jews being given the gospel and being warned about the dangers of ignoring it and going back to Judaism.
@jideabiaka4487
@jideabiaka4487 3 жыл бұрын
@@D777-s8b it says to be "brought Bac to repentance" meaning they repented... But now have fallen away
@mysaviourjesus4134
@mysaviourjesus4134 4 жыл бұрын
How would you explain the Verses in Ephesians 2, 8-9?
@ankokuflare
@ankokuflare 6 жыл бұрын
Enduring our faith in the end makes more sense to me since the stories of the scripture makes life of those before us one challenging journey to test the faith.
@sulkyslimeball253
@sulkyslimeball253 4 жыл бұрын
24¶Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
@AmyWelchBrokeredByFathomRealty
@AmyWelchBrokeredByFathomRealty 3 жыл бұрын
You all do realized all these versus were believe is mentioned that in the original greek it means a working obedient belief and not just a mental aknowledgment right?
@Mestresv2
@Mestresv2 3 жыл бұрын
A Welch, correct!
@inua6566
@inua6566 3 жыл бұрын
@@AmyWelchBrokeredByFathomRealty Elaborate
@GloriousYeshuaAlMightyHolyGod
@GloriousYeshuaAlMightyHolyGod 6 жыл бұрын
Amen you are right on. God bless you in Yeshuas name
@gabrielbermudez9012
@gabrielbermudez9012 6 жыл бұрын
That's just how you say Jesus in Greek
@scottbailey9242
@scottbailey9242 5 ай бұрын
I hope you endure to the end. Hard times are here and it will only get worse.
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