Gran Turismo 7 does have a noticeable improvement in resolution, and a reduction in ghosting. I did races on both the Base system and the Pro, back to back, across several tracks, and it is far sharper on the Pro. The steering wheel, instrument panel, and material details are much more defined. There is more shine to glossy materials, and the metallic flake in the paint is actually perceivable with the Pro, where it is washed out on the lower resolution of the base PS5. Distant mountains look far sharper, and track side details are far more defined. However, details still suffer from ghosting when cornering or moving your head. Going straight, everything looks much nicer, looking around, it still leaves more to be desired. My hope with the Pro patch, is that they will be able to drop the resolution, and use PSSR to bring it back to where it is now, or better. Then if they can achieve 90fps, we should get all of this additional detail on screen continuously.
@cronoesifyАй бұрын
90hz native is the key. If no VR games can go from 60 to 90, then it's not a big deal. Which sucks. I have the pro. I kept it for VR. I'm not hearing good things.
@VargolАй бұрын
@@cronoesify Always remember frame rate is a developer choice. Games aren't going to go native 90 as the dev prefer there games to look as pretty as possible over frame rates.
@cronoesifyАй бұрын
@@Vargol the difference in VR is motion clarity, which impacts immersion. With VR, it isnt as simple as 60 = more graphics, prettier picture. There is a reason why everyone couldnt shut up about Red Matter 2, and it wasnt because of how pretty everything was. It was the 90hz native presentation, with the right use of assets. Polyphony could dial down the detail a tiny bit, but increase to 90hz, and you would actually view it as an improvement graphically.
@VargolАй бұрын
Yes, frame rate is a choice, the other games that are doing 60Hz reprojected made a different choice to the Red Matter Devs. What makes you think they'd make a different one and not think oh we can have dynamic shadows, or better LOD or better textures, maybe do some supersampling to make things shaper ?
@cronoesifyАй бұрын
@@Vargol Everyone should know that in VR, reprojection is almost always inferior to native 90hz. especially with Sony's implementation of reprojection. Sure, it is their choice which route they go. But there is such thing as a fundamentally bad choice.
@LCOF2 ай бұрын
Hopefully someone like Digital Foundry will do a side by side comparison with lots of pixel and frame rate measurements. That’s the only way of actually knowing for sure.
@hb-hr1nh2 ай бұрын
They will probably zoom in about 200 to 400% and count all pixels which the human eye can't see anyway.
@ChiefJenkins2 ай бұрын
Doubt they will be able to capture the in display resolution/GFX ...and the social output is completely different and not comparable
@legendp20112 ай бұрын
@@hb-hr1nhyou can still see screen door even on psvr2. So the human eye can definitely see it. Additionally many games only run at 60hz on psvr2 instead of 90hz or 120hz
@jeanlepage42642 ай бұрын
Sadly they can't
@RoyHoy2 ай бұрын
@@legendp2011 I can't see any screen door on my PSVR2.
@sirdan3572 ай бұрын
Haven't tried any VR yet, but I've played a bunch of flat games on it and there are some very obvious differences in some games.
@bellissimo45202 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that some of the existing games won't look better necessarily - but often run smoother. Which in some cases is also the more important factor to me.
@apanamakamu2 ай бұрын
This is the video i needed. Specifically for PSVR2. thanks!
@C_Willy_2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Great job with the video Gamertag.
@TransformersHoarder2 ай бұрын
The PSSR treatment for PSVR2 isn’t here yet. That’s when night and day difference will be here.
@Unclog_my_gamecat_backlog2 ай бұрын
Well said, do you think that it will be advertised properly at least? We lack some good communication here, such a great headset and console
@DrShakamoto92 ай бұрын
@@Unclog_my_gamecat_backlog I don’t think Sony will heavily advertise. They will rely on the likes of Digital Foundry in the same way they did for the Pro. They don’t want the Pro to look too much better than base console because that’s the money maker
@LebronJames-jr2zt2 ай бұрын
In gran turismo 7 it's already really noticeable my dashboard is super clear I can see every number and I can also now see reflection on the dashboard glass that covers the speedometer..depending on weather and time of day on the circuit. I can't wait to see if it'll look even better with a patch
@jestificated2 ай бұрын
@@DrShakamoto9 it should have been a generational update and not an optional variation.
@NintenPizzaАй бұрын
If RE Village VR & RE 4 Remake VR get 90fps support, i'd be over the moon but I doubt that will happen. I really wonder if Sony will pursue VR with a PSVR3 for PS6, or if they've officially dropped out completely. I guess, never say never, IF VR/MR becomes super successful by 2030 with the likes of Quest 4 or 5, they may jump back in again and do it right, to get a piece of that VR/MR pie.
@anthonywedyck2 ай бұрын
I played a little bit of RE8 and RE4 on the psvr2 with the pro and I felt they both looked sharper. The big test will be to play the psvr2 on the pro for a week or two and then go back to the og PS5 and see how I feel.
@ZFCaio2 ай бұрын
There is not much difference, you gonna keep with mediocre Fresnel lenses with 2000 px per eye
@anthonywedyck2 ай бұрын
@ZFCaio some things we can't change, I certainly would enjoy an upgrade and if Sony dedicated itself to real AAA experiences that would be amazing. The purchase makes sense to me due to space, lifestyle, convenience, having children, etc. I've enjoyed it, it is an improvement in frame rates and fidelity on regular PS5 games and I have kids so another console is nice. I've gotten so much enjoyment out of the psvr2 even with the fresnel lenses and things do run slightly better.
@BOGZLR2 ай бұрын
Re4 is noticeably sharper for me
@jamiebaxter4221Ай бұрын
The over head definitely will help for sure
@Stiny4212 ай бұрын
As soon as I have the money for it I want to upgrade to PS5 Pro and finally get a PSVR2. I was gonna get PSVR2 at launch but then a big move to the Midwest got in the way. I still get crazy excited over these new developments!
@ImcringeiknowАй бұрын
You’re so rich
@Stiny421Ай бұрын
@ lol I wish
@Daimomaru2 ай бұрын
I've seen a difference in unlock framerates. Basically Vertigo 2 and Vampire the Masquerade had great boost to performance without patching.
@Charlster102 ай бұрын
I'm not shocked tbh. From what I've read and Digital Foundry have said, for PS5 native games they will need a patch of some kind for any noticeable improvement. PSSR will also need to be implemented by the devs its not something the system can turn on manually as it needs to replace whatever upscaling method a game may already be using. The only real difference you might get on an unpatched games is a closer to locked 90 or 60 fps if that was an issue prior. Really hoping we see PSVR2 devs patch and release their games with Pro support in the future though!
@lesserlogic99772 ай бұрын
Just Dynamic Resolution scaling where implemented
@videogamer382 ай бұрын
Most devs wont even implement pssr in vr, the sane way they won't implement foveated rendering, which btw would beat pssr every single time
@topperHarley2 ай бұрын
i'm pretty sure GT7 VR is improved IQ wise even if there is not pro patch yet, it looks cleaner now.
@DK-gw2pg2 ай бұрын
I feel the same. I'm more engaged. Things are crisper.
@86themadhatter272 ай бұрын
I'm curious how things would look sharper when it hasn't received an update and PSSR isn't supported. I would understand if maybe it didn't run smoothly before and now it does but what is the Pro improving visually on its own?
@Garnett9452 ай бұрын
@@86themadhatter27 If the resolution is dynamic, Pro can lift it higher with brute force of the better gpu, but I dont know that GT7 is using dynamic res in VR or not.
@minners712 ай бұрын
@@Garnett945 Pretty sure it doesn't will have to check an old DF video but if it doesn't then any perceived improvement is just in their mind.
@86themadhatter272 ай бұрын
@@Garnett945 I always pictured it being a fixed resolution and then foveated rendering does the rest. But i could be wrong also.
@barmyneddy17892 ай бұрын
The Pro has exceeded my expectations. Games (flat screen) feel more alive if that makes sense
@Sincerity1993Ай бұрын
Feel more alive? The thing that changed is that you can play in quality mode but have the 60 fps smoothness of performance. Don't think Alice is the right word
@scottmiddleton143979Ай бұрын
@@Sincerity1993 Who the fuck is Alice??
@capcut..tutorials8403Ай бұрын
No pssr is amazing and crisp on games that have it enabled.....you clearly haven't seen it in real life and have only watched vids....looks higher then 4k sometimes it's crazy
@Sincerity1993Ай бұрын
@capcut..tutorials8403 it's the future, however I wouldn't say it looks necessarily so much better just the old quality mode. And yes I've had my PS5 Pro day one.
@chrisbayer72942 ай бұрын
vertigo 2 framerate problems are pretty much completely fixed runs way better on pro!!
@RafaQuirkyTurtle2 ай бұрын
So I guess most of the games will make fps more stable. Is that what you see in your tests?
@bluebell12 ай бұрын
Nice jog GT! This is just one of the many reasons why I love your channel! Thank you!
@ILoveUEVR2 ай бұрын
Don't know why the hell they couldn't launch PSSR at the same time for PS VR2. Their motto should be "For The Bare Minimum".
@antjones22812 ай бұрын
Newsflash: They don't care
@kato0932 ай бұрын
Because it's A.I. upscaling and it gets better over time as it learns. For VR games I guess it's different and it's not up there yet, so it might give problems, like cause nausea when stuff is flickering and models leaving trails of artifacts, which wouldn't look all that good in games with reprojection. But when it's updated, up and running, it's gonna be MASSIVE. As big as foveated rendering. DLSS on PCVR is BIG. But it took them years to get there as DLSS 1.0 was worse than FSR 2.0, which is atrociously abysmal. And PSSR launched 2-3 years ahead of DLSS, so it shouldn't take long until it catches up and maybe surpasses DLSS. I believe we should get PSSR in VR by December, mid January, to the start of February at the latest. They already said that "Dynamic Resolution Scaling (DRS) range will jump from 1458P to 2160P on PS5 Pro, and foveated rendering "increases the effective resolution by 300% ". That is INSANE. If everything goes as planned, we might get every single future psvr2 game at 4k, with no performance hits, no need for 60 reprojected, unless REALLY needed (I mean that the base PS5 would have to be like 1080p 60fps reprojected and the extra power and PSSR is just not enough). You might be a moping crybaby right now but the future looks GOOD for VR on the ps5pro. Like crazy good.
@thehoukster2 ай бұрын
Just played Kayak VR on PS5 (not the Pro) for the first time in a long time. It looks absolutely breathtaking. Is there any possible merit to thinking we all benefit from the Pro patch? As in, there were improvements that trickled down to the PS5? Or did they improve it over the last year since I last jumped in? All I know, it looks so much better than launch day.
@mikemiles30772 ай бұрын
I haven't read all the comments so I may have missed someone else saying this, but it seems if you have a PS5 with a disk drive, you can swap it into your PS5 Pro. I saw someone do it on youtube. Great Vid!
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
So the PS5 Slim drive is the same drive used for Pro. Unfortunately my drives are built in
@mikemiles30772 ай бұрын
@@GAMERTAGVR I didn't think it was a slim the guy removed the drive from but now I'm not sure. Sorry if I gave the wrong advice 🤥
@mikemiles30772 ай бұрын
Now I'm sure, sorry about that...
@TheSurfheart2 ай бұрын
The improvements to NMS were huge and instantly obvious to me. Res, atmospherics, lighting, textures, materials and framerate all hugely improved
@parsak9382 ай бұрын
Love the content broski
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Cheers Parsak ✌️
@MuddyFox762 ай бұрын
As for flat games it depends on the dev how they utilise that extra horsepower. Horizon zero dawn remake, crew motorfest and star wars outlaws look so much better with higher detail
@ste94742 ай бұрын
I have just tested 2 hours on RE4 on a Pro I have over 50 hours playtime on the normal PS5 The Pro has noticeable improvements. You have to see it for yourself
@Outlander-tm6gd2 ай бұрын
If a game is patched the difference in VR is definitely there. That's why I really want to know if PS5pro will enhance GT7 with a patch, especially on PSVR2..it's already fantastic in VR, and the pro could make it even better! Hopefully they will say something about this soon..
@ianwatson57672 ай бұрын
And only 800 Euros for the ps5 pro. 😂 No point if you already have a good PCVR setup
@codean9092 ай бұрын
@@ianwatson5767 How well does Gran Turismo 7 play on PC?
@Aparou272 ай бұрын
@@codean909don’t know but I have a 4090 and refuse to play NMS on it and just might pick up a ps5 pro for that
@acurisur2 ай бұрын
@@Aparou27 Sure you have a 4090, the fact you're debating getting a PS5 Pro instead of just buying a PSVR2 and the PC adapter isn't suss at all.
@FurBurger1512 ай бұрын
Dude appreciate you going out of your way to grab a pro for us! We all know it isn't cheap. Man I'm looking forward to seeing What PD have done with GT7. Iol im trying to keep my expectations in check. 😅 Thanks again dude
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
As soon as I get the drive I’ll test more games specifically RESI, GT and Vertigo
@KNIGHTOFSIN1872 ай бұрын
Im sure overtime we will see a massive software update to enhance alot of the VR content and software
@stratoshd90432 ай бұрын
Just tried yesterday NMS and it’s amazing. Not sure if they did something to the headset and they bumped the resolution , honestly looked great
@MarkPoppinPringlesleaf2 ай бұрын
Great honest video GT. I've heard a lot of people saying this game looks better. As you said they are trying to justify buying the ps5 pro. I did notice on NMS when you was in the space station looking at your ship. There was some crazy frames of the light reflection appearing and disappearing. Thanks for sharing this video with us
@jamesfoster51652 ай бұрын
@@MarkPoppinPringlesleaf GT7 does look a bit smoother. The resolution has not changed but from other games patched it should be a night and day difference. A lot more come into play with the VR experience than just resolution.
@kevincafferty84982 ай бұрын
I thought gt7 looked a lot sharper
@rushtoolman2 ай бұрын
Would have loved to hear a bit more about whether some of these games are reprojected. Graphics are fine honestly. It’s the reprojection that really needs addressing.
@dingeskerz2 ай бұрын
Same
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Metro and Arizona are reprojected and were no different on Pro without a patch
@Daimomaru2 ай бұрын
@@GAMERTAGVR In Arizona sunshine I could explode a barrel with 6 zombies around with no frame drops. So it's definitely more stable aside from reprojection.
@sammartensson76172 ай бұрын
Awesome vid! You should also try RE8
@64Papiculo2 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a video of Vertigo 2 as I heard there's no more stuttering on pro.
@Riptorn732 ай бұрын
Do a walk in at Smyths toys for a drive.. I bagged one last week on a walk in, whereas online for click & collect at my Smyths it said out of stock but it wasn’t. Two days previously they had some in & they went out of stock as I was in there with my kids. Then like I say, 2 days later I was nearby & walked in & they had new stock again, bagged it. Give it a go.
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Ok thank you. I have the local store number.
@CrossplatformGamerMasterRaceАй бұрын
The thing about non patched games is that they can run smoother and or hit higher resolutions for dynamic resolution games.
@AVClll2 ай бұрын
Be sure to jump back into the OG, youll see its very, very, similar. Im waiting for pssr if i even do get it!
@ChiefJenkins2 ай бұрын
Only played Metro on the pro so far in VR and I don't know if it was the latest update or the pro (both came at the same time) but it def cleared up the atrocious Mura I had on the ast base PS5 play. With the anti glare VR Rock lenses on it was like looking through a net curtain originally
@Axel-wo6qu2 ай бұрын
I have no play station, but seeing the pro version did make me curious about this topic.
@RoguePC4U2 ай бұрын
What about motion sickness? Does the PS5 Pro help with that? I've heard rumour that it does, but nothing has been confirmed yet.
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
I don’t see why it would help motion sickness outside of improving frame rates and the stability of frame rates and In my opinion if a game isn’t patched then there is no difference so far.
@GreyMatterShades2 ай бұрын
If you wanted to test RE4 before you get your hands on a disk drive, I believe it has a free demo which should work the same as the base game (assuming it's updated).
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Ahhh that’s right. Cheers
@drahcir752 ай бұрын
NMS definitely has a much better look now on the VR2. my ships interior looks so damn sharp in the VR, wonder how much PSSR will do if its implemented
@Orain882 ай бұрын
Re4 probably has the biggest bump in fidelity I've seen so far.
@Lionheart11882 ай бұрын
Just letting you know, Resident Evil 4 Remake in VR will go black & crash when you select the "go in to VR mode" in game, something to do with previous VR save game files being corrupted, I got it to work but I had to delete all my saves. GT7 did work for me for like 5mins then crashed to the PS5 dashboard. Be wary.
@plo6172 ай бұрын
I tried No Man's Sky on my new Pro and I really don't see a difference. Perhaps I might have to go tried my other PS5 in the room right afterwards, but there isn't any huge difference, if any..
@Brian-qo8bq2 ай бұрын
gt7 is the one I want to see. Please update when you get a disc drive.
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Will do
@cusman2 ай бұрын
My own experience with PS5 Pro is the tracking is more stable for rhythm games where I move very fast and aside that I think some games are very slightly clearer and more stable, but more meaningful differences are observable in games that have PS5 Pro Enhanced patches. The one exception to that seems to be Vertigo 2 where maybe the code just used dynamic resolution scaling based on hardware so it is running better on the PS5 Pro even without a PS5 Pro Enhanced patch. On Into the Radius looking sharper and smoother, could it be from a patch between when you last played and now or the PS5 Pro performing better unless you try them on same patch level back to back.
@PsimanUK2 ай бұрын
I’m really glad I picked up a Blu Ray drive as soon as I heard the Pro wouldn’t come with one, as most of my games are physical editions. £100 seemed a bit steep at the time, but they seem to be selling for a lot more than that now.
@DrierHyperion212 ай бұрын
No mans sky Looks the exact same to me. Kayak is definitely improved because it has no reprojection now
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Kayak has been a native 90 game for a long time or maybe all along. I think people get reprojection and persistence mixed up. I do too sometimes
@DrierHyperion212 ай бұрын
@GAMERTAGVR no kayak is definitely reprojected on the normal ps5. I thought it wasn't reprojected either and then I jumped into it yesterday and it's definitely reprojected. Someone else mentioned it to me and corrected me on it because I thought it wasn't either
@giacintorenta75792 ай бұрын
No GT7 review? Is mura effect better? Thank you the video
@pdeb24732 ай бұрын
A question for you! In Horizon VR, the game looks really good like you mention, but there are a lot of times when the field of view turns small on the original ps5. This was worsening my experience. Was this part improved on the PS5 Pro? Because on your screen I didn't notice this thing, and I know that when I look on the 2d screen when somebody was playing Horzin VR, I also saw in the 2d screen that this field of view turned very small. For the rest, thanks again for your honest opinion! Your the best channel on VR! I also have the ps5 pro and didn't have a wow moment yet. I had this wow with the ps4 pro, when switching to a 4k screen. And like you, I hope there will be some proper upgrades for games like Horizon, RE and also the new upcoming games!
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
I’m not sure what you mean. Your FOV shouldn’t change at all. Please turn all vignettes off. Comfort option off. I think your seeing blinders which shrink the FOV to prevent motion sickness
@pdeb24732 ай бұрын
Oooo F! With this I just found out that I have been playing this game with vignette on. I thought it was some limitation in hardware and that vield of view git adjusted 😀 stupid me. Hopefully they will give Horizon Call of the mountain an ps5 pro update, then I will play it again without vignette 😐 😀
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
@@pdeb2473it’s all good and not necessarily your fault. Developers re-name comfort options and other bits and pieces all the time. Only last week Metro called free loco-motion (walking) ‘sliding’?
@thenovatones2 ай бұрын
Thought exactly the same with No man's sky blew me away and that's without pssr. Hopefully more to come but hold off psvr2 guys until more games get the treatment if you don't have £700 burning a hole in your pocket
@Adam-mo2qw2 ай бұрын
No mans sky has gone through loads of improvements the last year on psvr2. When did you last play it? Might not all be pro improvements
@thenovatones2 ай бұрын
@Adam-mo2qw the same day on my old ps5 kept switching between the two, it's definitely much sharper
@NinjaGuyVR2 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed that the staple PSVR2 games get some nice support and get a Ps5 Pro update 🤞 I'll wait on my end since I don't think that I can justify it.
@John-oo9xu2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice. Not buying a pro atm. Diskdrives arent sold anyways. Thank you Sony!
@minners712 ай бұрын
You need to go back and forth between versions Bryan Paul had the same reaction that games looked better but when he went back to OG PS5 he changed his mind. Especially on Kayak VR. All these people saying all these games look better are just biased as they are trying to justify the purchase price. The only way an unpatched game will look any better is if it has dynamic resolution and the ps5 pro's extra power can make it run at a higher resolution.
@jamesfoster51652 ай бұрын
@@minners71 every game is smoother with better colors and I don’t know why but my eyes aren’t fighting to focus anymore. Kayak is night and day different. No aliasing on the trees, no nausea even on the white water route. It isn’t bias man. Do you even have a pro to compare?
@kato0932 ай бұрын
When they release the patch to have automatic PSSR upscaling on VR, because it's not working in VR right now, you will see the difference. The massive difference that is there right now in flat games. Other than that, it's up to devs to patch their games to use the extra power. Otherwise, it's the same exact game, except running much better, like vertigo 2 being a stable game now on the pro, while it's a laggy mess on the base PS5. The PS5 pro is future proofing and not a machine to upgrade old games. It's not magic. You can't launch a PS2 game on the ps5pro and expect suddenly they all have PS5 graphics. Everything else is up to the lazy talentless VR devs. It's not up to Sony or the ps5pro.
@acurisur2 ай бұрын
@@jamesfoster5165 Doesn't matter how much better the PS5 Pro is when PSVR2 is using Fresnel lenses. Fresnel is garbage. I'd much rather play all of these games on PCVR with a Bigscreen Beyond VR headset - same OLED panels as the PSVR2 but it has pancake lenses instead of Fresnel. It's a night and day difference.
@jamesfoster51652 ай бұрын
@@acurisur I’m very curious to see the difference between the two and would probably pay to swap mine out if it was possible.
@moshebiderman1750Ай бұрын
Considering the psvr 2 had dynamic foeavated rendering on the regular ps5, and the relativly low resolution the psvr2 screen has, i wonder how much better it can get on the pro
@waynechapman8862Ай бұрын
Good vid, I like your microphone
@axelk.42732 ай бұрын
As long as there are no specific Pro patches for VR games, not much will change (obviously!). I can only talk about flat games, and all of those I tested so far (with a Pro patch) looked *a lot* better. I would even go so far to say that some look *drastically* better. Do you need any of this? Definitely not. It's luxury. As are all gaming consoles. But it's a nice to have if you are in a "suitable" financial situation.
@Evilkingus2 ай бұрын
I think it might be worth holding on to the PS5 pro for stuff in the future. They said the same about the PSVR2, Laddie 🤣🤣
@evgenyyurichev2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much man ❤ Heard No Mans Sky looking much upgraded on PS5 Pro before (sharper smoother and more details and draw distance). But still only 2-3 VR games are upgraded for Pro NMS, Kayak, Metro.. I dont understand why Re4 and 8 not upgraded ..
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
@@evgenyyurichev for VR use the Pro is definitely something to wait and see unless you have lots of money. I’m seeing so many different takes but I trust my eye and I’m in VR daily. It’s my job not just on KZbin. I’m also a playtester and know these games so well. Hopefully more devs support the console
@evgenyyurichev2 ай бұрын
@ Unfortunately im not have + in my country PS5 Pro price is 1300$) Thank you very much for the info 🤝
@stephenhall29802 ай бұрын
I upgraded from the base ps4 to a ps4 pro at the same time i upgraded to a 4k tv back in 2018 and the difference in clarity and performance was immediately obvious. I really don't think that an upgrade to ps5 pro from the og console will be worth it for me as my eyes really can't see in 8k.
@74amazing2 ай бұрын
The only vr games with pro upgrades are Nms and Kajak. And yes: Both look really great. Close to high end pc quality. I have tested re4, re8, Horizon: Cotm, Synapse, red matter 2… i have spotted no visual difference.
@Daimomaru2 ай бұрын
@@74amazing The difference with none patched games is the framerate. Games that suffered drops are now very stable.
@74amazing2 ай бұрын
@@Daimomaru True, but i was talking about visual upgrades. See: NMS and Kayak also run very stable. And they received significant visual upgrades as well.
@aznpanda510x2 ай бұрын
I know because it run more smooth and I like to go slow 😂 so I’m like ughhhhhh nope so it was fun to test it out. But mirage VR was so peaceful and I set it on TOUR while high af and wow it was magically wonderful
@SHOGUNBLACK2 ай бұрын
Tested: RE4, Metro, red matter 2 and i thought i saw an increased resolution/sharpness in all these games, not a huge improvement but still welcome
@antjones22812 ай бұрын
Do they even sell psvr2 games on disc? Btw you said Gran Turismo 5?
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Mental
@AmericanAristo2 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe is the ghosting. These games NEED to run at a native 90 or 120.
@tdub87192 ай бұрын
Your honest thoughts are always appreciated gt. Thanks 👍
@Evilkingus2 ай бұрын
Great video, no bullshit!
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
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@Sincerity1993Ай бұрын
I didn't feel that games looked different on PS5 Pro. It had a difference on flat games, but so far barely any impact on PSVR2. I think it will once PSSR gets implemented. No man's sky always looked super sharp.
@drakiesgaming5590Ай бұрын
Fantastic review but I have the ps5 pro on gt7 my biggest gripe on vr2 was the Honeycomb affect now its gone so it did boost it, in fact on most of my vr2 games it stopped the Honeycomb affect without a patch so you can take that as you like no the games look no better but with the vr2 on you're head it does, by the way I paid for mine out of my own pocket.
@SmartLightDimwit2 ай бұрын
We neeed some side by side comparisons
@JohnDoe-yr5tg2 ай бұрын
The only true test would be to run both swapping the headset or it’s just perceived that your tying to justify it
@Gaming-Legends0072 ай бұрын
Thumbs up for the jimmy Hill look 😎👍
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Who jimmy Hill 😂
@michaelmordecai4982Ай бұрын
Great video
@UltraInstinctZz2 ай бұрын
Ive noticed that it decreases some aliasing and improves edge sharpness making the image look better than on ps5.
@EthanWolfCat2 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that Pro patches for games are not all there so there is a lot of games including VR games that require those patches in order to see a difference.
@dukedub2 ай бұрын
Gt7 looks the same, the only difference i noticed was that when there is a lot going on screen the pro handles that perf strain better and there isn’t as much jagged frame loss (like spinning the car at 100mph doesn’t lose frames) Think that’s just down to the extra gpu handling better, the official update will prove that
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
@@dukedub thats good to know. So many different takes on the PRO
@ExupaceАй бұрын
Seeing as I spend 90% of my VR time playing NMS I'll defo be picking up the Pro.
@ICZERZERO30002 ай бұрын
🔥 Stunning 🔥
@GamerboyDEI2 ай бұрын
That's why I bought one. I have high hopes for future psvr2 games.
@simongibbins12032 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I wonder if RE4 looks any different as the base game does has the pro patch
@TheCunningStunt2 ай бұрын
The thing about better hardware? It doesn't automatically make software look better, especially if that software has not had changes made to it to take advantage of that hardware. Source: Quest 3 and Quest Game Optimiser. Quest 3 is superior to the Quest 2. But games made before the Quest 3 that haven't been updated for the Quest 3, surprise surprise, still look like Quest 2 games, and only get a sharpness boost thanks to the pancake lenses. It'll be the same for the PS5 Pro. If the games have not been 'upgraded' to for the PS5P, then unsurprisingly you aren't going to see a difference in visuals. So yeah, what you should be looking at is performance metrics. Like is the frame rate better on these games? Cannot just throw on old games and expect they're going to look like remasters because you got a faster CPU clock speed or something.
@Morbidia2 ай бұрын
The only way to get a drive is on eBay at double the price people are selling pre orders for the 1st or 2nd of December so i recon they will be all sold out in shops as people have pre ordered them somehow.
@masofdas2 ай бұрын
Heard Vertigo 2 improved as had a unlocked fps, which Pro improves
@Killa8Sam2 ай бұрын
Can check if the frame rate is improved?
@ZaaRaphz2 ай бұрын
I also can't get a disc drive in Australia, the scalpers here are crazy
@brooklynboyzfixedgearpov98672 ай бұрын
Same I don’t have a disc drive & I had to buy gt7 all over again
@Daeva83B20 күн бұрын
The only thing that i think is really cool of the psVR, thats the foveated rendering and the eye tracking.. It's smart, it's reducing the graphical power needed. I have a quest 3 and an okay PC, but my graphics, you guys gonna be jealous :p To be fair, i always invested in PC's over consoles.. so my cost weren't that high, compared to someone who still needs to buy a pc.
@GreyMatterShades2 ай бұрын
Some games will likely benefit from the Pro without a patch. If they had framerate dips or used dynamic resolution scaling, they could benefit from the added power of the Pro automatically. Features like PSSR (when it's supported in VR) will require a patch to implement. Hopefully those Pro features will be easy to implement, and a large number of developers will put in that work.
@videogamer382 ай бұрын
Pssr will never beat foveated rendering. And yet we only get a handful of games that use it. Its also very unlikely that pssr will ever be moved to vr
@GreyMatterShades2 ай бұрын
@@videogamer38 The biggest thing keeping most developers from using DFR was that it wasn't supported by Unity. Now that this issue has been resolved, hopefully more developers will take advantage of it. Sony basically stated they were getting PSSR working with VR at some point, but who knows how long it'll take them or how many developers will use it once it's an option.
@benozkleenex2 ай бұрын
Vertigo 2 for sure any games that had frame dips or is using dynamic resolution will see a small boost.
@cloudsurfertom3268Ай бұрын
Is there any word on when pssr is likely to get integrated?
@MuddyFox762 ай бұрын
PSSR isn't enabled for the VR2 yet Sony confirmed
@Wobbothe3rd2 ай бұрын
Right, so this video is pointless.
@plo6172 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's true. That said, DF said that one of the Horizon games isn't using PSSR, but there is still a decent amount of improvement on the Pro. I believe it really depends on individual devs outside of PSSR. I really hope Sony does hurry up with PSVR2/Pro support, because that actually has more potential to make a substantial difference than the flat games do.
@videogamer382 ай бұрын
Pssr will never look better than eye tracked foveated rendering. In fact it will look much worse
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Yep. Still waiting and hope it makes a difference without the need patches on PSVR2
@plo6172 ай бұрын
@@videogamer38 Wait, maybe I'm missing something. Can't both be used at the same time?
@simongibbins12032 ай бұрын
Ohhh and it would be very interesting to see how the older PSVR1 performs with the PS4 enhanced mode enabled
@futvnyc2 ай бұрын
Unlike a pc card games are onky updated by sony or the 3rd party so this console upgrade isnt like a pc upgrade where everything is improved.
@stratoshd90432 ай бұрын
As soon as I plugged the headset there was an update to both the headset and the controllers
@KiwiKoNZ2 ай бұрын
Definitely the Ray Tracing 😎👍✨
@karlprince97412 ай бұрын
Well done GT
@ianwood6438Ай бұрын
I got a drive last week from curry’s buisness, had to create a few more steps to purchase but it was worth it
@flipsilog_GamingАй бұрын
The PSVR2 is on sale right now.. IM SO TEMPTED TO BUY IT..
@XGARXSАй бұрын
I got it but now I'm tempted to get the ps5 pro lol not sure if it's worth it if I already for the base ps5
@mountaindrew52192 ай бұрын
Holding off until GT7 gets a native framerate patch, if that ever happens.
@Slyfox17752 ай бұрын
I have yet to buy metro .. do you recommend psvr2 or do I buy it for quest 3 as its a cross buy and I would have the option to play on pc as well as stand alone .?
@mikemiles30772 ай бұрын
I bought it on PCVR so I can play it on PSVR2 or Quest 3 and see the difference. I'm not sure if you have a PC...
@Slyfox17752 ай бұрын
Yes , I have a pc . That’s why it makes sense on quest for cross buy . I also have psvr2 cable for pc . But I read other reviews say it’s not a whole lot better on of as it’s been scaled way back .
@mikemiles30772 ай бұрын
@@Slyfox1775 That's what I've been reading too. I'm getting too caught up in the graphics craze I think. I still love playing RE4 on the Quest 3 and it looks better than ever. I know it doesn't compare to the remake on PSVR2 but I just like playing it on the Quest better (probably cause I'm not tethered.)
@garytebbenham68432 ай бұрын
Had the same dilemma and I have the same hardware but went with the PS version. Apart from the reprojection it looks fantastic with the oleds and you get the adaptive triggers to boot. Reprojection is very similar to RE4/8 in the dark sections but overall it doesn’t subtract from the game but it’s there, if you know what I mean.
@Slyfox17752 ай бұрын
@@garytebbenham6843 how is the mura ? The mura in re4 remake was disgustingly bad to me .
@ste94742 ай бұрын
All bets are on that sweet PSSR
@GAMERTAGVR2 ай бұрын
Agreed 🤝
@danieldesborough4639Ай бұрын
My brother just got psvr2 for the ps5 pro and is having problems with kayak vr tutorial. It’s spawning the kayak outside the tutorial area (the floating boys) and fails whenever he try’s to move. Hes centred in the kayak which makes me think it isn’t a tracking issue. Anyone had this issue or know how to sort? Any help would be appreciated
@guapzilla89512 ай бұрын
Vertigo 2 is a major win on PS5Pro!
@umkane38512 ай бұрын
I believe some of the games you reviewed does look better