Is "Rain Mode" actually safe on a liter bike? (BMW S1000RR)

[@yammienoob]

Rain mode on a liter bike is a dumb idea for a beginner rider lmao, don't listen to your local squids. Also, this is a giveaway BMW S1000RR! Become a member at yammienoob.co

[@terrencefowler5469]

My very first bike is a 17 S1K. I’m 33yrs old…. I feel I’m responsible, I love the bike. I ride my ride and take my time. I’ve purchased it right before my birthday 4/17 and it’s an absolute blast

[@ChrisLawlor1]

Check the "engineering details" section of the owners manual. Rain mode gives you * reduced torque in low gears (doesn't specify which gears) * softer throttle response * max engine braking * max traction control * stoppie control (rear lift off assistant) * max wheelie control * softest dynamic damping control the big thing to notice is that you still have access to max power, just not in lower gears. disclaimer: I don't own this bike

[@ytTOOKTOOKmyname]

Thanks for the info. Yam doesn't really give us the deets, he just making ads for the gambling service.

[@natebienne6737]

This has to be the most un-offensive and informative statement I have read in the last year.

[@davidyoung3543]

It dampens 1-3 from 60%-80% power, respectively, though the manual really suggests it's torque reduction, not horsepower reduction. It also changes the throttle response from "by wire" to "linear" (acting more like a carburetor). I can tell you rain mode is beastie for "what it is".

[@Qassu78]

What comes to rain mode or any electronic ride/drive assistant, they are good things to exist. But none of those systems can never defy the laws of physics. In my opinion modern cars and motorcycles can be far more dangerous than 15y old vehicles. People trust too much on ESD, EPS, ABS, TCS and so on. NONE of those can save you if you try to break the laws of physics.

[@kenster007]

Absolutely. Learn your bike beforehand

[@MrEiniweini]

I can tell you from experience, you are wrong. We all like to think that raw is better and teaches us to control the machine. You actually have a better path to learning the limits of the machine with that new bike. You can feel the nanny mods kick in and you can learn to push that limit without triggering it. As an example: On a wet road out of a T junction and hard turn, I gunned the throttle on my 2022 bike, traction control kicked in and I learned the limits without dropping the bike. I have not done it since. I know the limits of my bike, I just did not drop it to learn it.

[@AstroBot-bc0213]

Yeah that’s why you don’t when you ride in the rain ride normally

[@512Chaos]

1:30 I've been here long enough to know that a Hyabusa is the only recommended beginner bike, you cant trick me with the BMW

[@danixsc]

I'm from Spain where you can find not only wet, but sometimes frozen roads (at night temperature can go under 0ºC sometimes in some places and there's a ton of humidity) and the only thing that saves you from falling is conservative riding, precise gas control and much attention to the road. No rain mode makes you safe if you don't ride properly

[@otiscraig9132]

I started on a 2021 GSXR 1000. I started in C mode and TC on 10 and rode it for 1000 miles. Turned it to A mode left the TC on 10 for another 1000 miles now TC is set at 5 and I’ve put an additional 4 k miles on it in my first season. I was 49 when I got my bike so I’m definitely being more chill with it than I would have been in my younger years.

[@MotoNerd_UK]

Do rain mode on the H2, definitely a good beginner bike someone can grow with.

[@GrantSweatshirt]

I actually started with the h2r (better abs/tc etc..) and have grown into my brand new zxsr 400 !! I wouldnt have it any other way

[@MotoNerd_UK]

@@GrantSweatshirt So you started on a 300+ HP track only version of the H2 then went to a “starter” motorbike? … cool

[@derekcharlesgrey]

Very gentle through the twisties? You convinced me, I’m getting a 1000cc as my first street bike

[@petervautmans199]

I started out on the S1000XR and i always felt like it got my back whenever I, as a cautious beginner biker, made a mistake. I did let me feel that i was not getting away with being a hooligan in bad weather. (on my first year i did 30k kms in central europe weather). Exactly as you experience !, thanks for pointing this out to a great many riders.

[@BeginnerMoto]

I started on the same bike and had the same experience you had. Did about the same amount of mileage too. If you’re responsible, it’s not bad at all.

[@dstev55]

​@@BeginnerMotomaybe you're secretly the same person

[@robertanna9964]

I own this bike and there's 4 modes that allow progressively shorter throttle responses in the 5-8k rev range. Rain mode will also limit the horsepower to about 160. And yes, Yam's right about this bike. It simply out matches 99% of the riders skill level. Unless you're truly a professional rider you will never utilize the full capacity of the s1000rr and you're likely to die trying (see track mode). And yes, I'd buy it all over again.

[@manray005]

I mean it's not a liter bike but can confirm the "rain mode" engine mode 4 on my xsr900 is still crazy. I am glad I had a year on an R3 before getting this bike. Even held back it's crazy fast. Can be done but spending time on a small bike to learn is not a bad thing or a step people should be giddy to skip.

[@streetsandpeaks3013]

Rain mode on my Monster 937 (Urban Mode) dropped HP to 70 from 110 and also dialed down all 6 of the driver aids…could a new rider ride that bike, yes. In actual pouring rain commuting on city streets in traffic the rain mode actually kept the bike grounded. Fast forward two seasons and try the Wet mode on the 153hp Street Fighter V2…nope!!! I will swap down to Touring Mode for a little more traction and ABS but I actually prefer to have my normal throttle response over the Wet Mode 110hp. Like you said…you still need to bring the A Game. Also riding in rain - you know how cars don’t see you in the dry, yes, that times 1000. Be SUPER defensive in traffic in rain.

[@S1knaked]

I started off on a 2022 BMW s1000r M and I had no issues. It really depends on a person’s intelligence and maturity in my opinion. Also, BMWs are very refined and technologically advanced machines so that definitely is a game changer. Motorcycles have come a long way since the early 2000s.

[@iliyafaezi4730]

It’s good for first bike? Because I don’t have any experience

[@HawgRiderBC]

I've got a 2016 S1000XR, and I find the rain mode works well to limit the power as longer as the rpm is below 6000. After that, not so much.

[@Mr_everything10]

It’s the restrictions yammie when it feels like it’s not giving you full power

[@JBFromOZ]

My first bike was a 1985 FJ1100, my second bike is a 2023 H2 SX SE. rain mode on that is certainly a lot tamer than Road or Sport (!!!) mode

[@LuisS1k_]

I mean cmon. Let’s be real. 400 or 1000 of your driving out of your comfort zone you’re gonna be in trouble. Why can’t people ride a 1000 like a 400 or 600?

[@PleadTheFifth_Racing]

I'm an entry level rider and my Streetfigher V4SP2 still puts down a lot of power in rain mode. I will say the only time I used rain mode I noticed it kept the front wheel planted and the rear from slipping when I go tried being greedy with the throttle.

[@goemonronin]

I really just don't have the time or wish to buy a cheesy starter bike, be tired of it in a matter of weeks. Then probably having to sell it at a loss, people say you can sell your starter bike for what you bought it for ... no you can't used is used. I don't know one Texan that is going to pay new price for something used ... sorry. Not only that but if you bought a starter bike, you likely didn't have enough money to buy something bigger anyway, unless it's over a decade old. So yeah I would buy an 08 GSXR, or Busa, turn the thing down and respect the crap out of it, and not have to deal with all that buy sell, oh now I have no motorcycle crap. I get the reasons not to, I am 45 years old and don't really look at life the same way I did when i was in my 20's. I feel I am a mature enough individual to keep in mind that even a small displacement motorcycle can maul the shit out of you. But if you make say ... walmart money, suggesting they go through all of that rigmarole doesn't seem financially lucrative. I'm sure plenty of people in a similar situation get stuck with small displacement motorcycles, because they sit down ... realize the loss they are going to take on their starter bike ... realize that they are going to have to get something really old for what they will get ... then decide they may as well just stick with the 300 "A little longer". I know that's how it would go for me.

[@scorpion-ninja8228]

Slightly damp roads, meh only true way is in actual rain, with rain mode! But I hear ya man!

[@tiger2q]

Definitely wish I saw this before I bought my S1K after only one year of riding🤦🏾‍♂️. I’ve had it for two months and it’s been ok so far, until last weekend. Going straight is one thing, but I took it out on the twisties and got my ass handed to me. I see a few track days in my future smh

[@langhamp8912]

Getting a small bike, perhaps even a tiny bike, is basically an investment for future you, and that's the way it has traditionally been. However, Keith Code's CA Superbike School mentioned that their crash rate dropped by about 80% when they switched to BMW S1000RR's from, I think, R7's or perhaps Kawasaki 600/650. So perhaps an S1000RR might actually be the correct choice if you have deep pockets. Or just get a Suzuki DRZ400SM, get a trackday at a supermoto track, and call it a day.

[@tiger2q]

@@langhamp8912 well it probably saved me this past weekend on the twisties. Cause I did almost everything wrong u can imagine going in and out the corners

[@pabloclark3332]

Try the tsunami mode and the black ice mode

[@Onewheelordeal]

Gotta get a Japanese bike to get that tsunami mode

[@langhamp8912]

3:30 you're referring to "rate of change" which doesn't reduce the power of the motorcycle but rather how fast the tires can accelerate and decelerate. That's not traction control, by the way, because even with perfect traction the computer will not allow acceleration beyond a certain factor regardless of, um, traction. That hesitation you feel is simply the computer allowing for the inertia of a wheel slowing down on closed throttle; simply holding the throttle partially open and then whacking it open should therefore show no hesitation ie you're not spinning the wheel in one direction, stopping it, and then turning it the other direction.

[@KanaalMTS]

The proper term is throttle response.

[@langhamp8912]

​@@KanaalMTS No, because throttle response can now be a slew of different things. I love it when riders say, "throttle response" because they have such varied and interesting ways of describing what "throttle response" is.

[@Knoxvillemoto]

Bought a RS660 as my first bike, and then a year later a V4S. Honestly, my rs660 is way more rowdy with the electronics turned down or off, than my V4S is. Could you start on a modern liter bike......maybe..... it'll be really expensive when you drop it.

[@VictorHernandez-fk6mp]

Nice bike, hope I get lucky. Thanks for what you do 🤙🏽

[@icosthop9998]

TY for the Ride 👌

[@kidlo2050]

He blurring his speed after seeing what happened with gixxer brah😂 But jokes aside, Yammie, I need info. I'm going to Circuit of the America(COTA) for the motogp event. I'm from Louisiana so I wanna know how safe is the Austin and Bastrop part of Texas is. I appreciate you or anyone else who responds.

[@SludgedB]

Did you get there ok?

[@antp9555]

G'day mate, if I put my busa in rain mode it rides different. It's like somethings off. I feel it's actually more dangerous as I'm used to keeping it in A mode. It still has heaps, just different gearing.

[@lonelybikr]

Rain mode delays the throttle response on my bike And at full throttle, it feels sluggish. Monster s 1200

[@tjey379]

Interesting I always thought that the R1 engine was more aggressive thanks for the video.

[@KB-yj5xp]

Ok yam I'm ready for the track footage, let's go already and upload it

[@FlyingMikeProject]

I am a big fan of your track content Yam. I recently bought an old 2003 Yamaha r6 and planning to do my first track day in Ireland in March 😄 love the channel and videos 💪🏽

[@kirkdunn1379]

without a doubt the smaller the bike you learn on the better rider you will be....not sure most care about being a good rider though....impressing strangers seems to be higher on the list

[@bernhtp]

Rain mode significantly reduces the throttle response and maximizes traction control and anti-wheelie/stoppie. It makes the suspension as plushy as possible.

[@GL-tj3xe]

🎉🎉 X GON' GIVE IT TO YA🎉🎉 r.i.p DMX

[@icosthop9998]

The rain mode on the Honda Golden Wing works more efficient in that setting, than the rain mode on this one.

[@simmons3.088]

Went from a ninja 300 to a 2009 R1 after 6 months of riding. Still alive -- not my smartest move. Mid 2000's liter bikes do not give a flying fuck whether you're alive or not. I'd do it again though.

[@ryanniksch4174]

hmm I did this with a rebell 1100 my wife was able to learn on it but still not as dramatic a reduction as down to 600 or 500, did the same on a tiger 900 nope not an ideal beginner bike.

[@Mr450pro]

I just bought the Yam mt 09 sp and it has surprised a few times now, even though I don’t ride like a maniac 😅 It is my dream bike, but I’m definitely not ready for it yet. I have been thinking of a small bike like a old Honda 500cc for parking lot drills and some track days.

[@mattsloop2736]

Rain mode on my bike softens the throttle response and you have to twist the throttle more to ride it. It also cuts the power down

[@WilliamSudek]

I don't know much about the German part of the Axis powers, But the other European Axis player lowers max power to 150bhp and slows throttle response. But the red bike is still fastish in slow mode. Check it on a track day and it's very obvious.)))

[@jacobdare4618]

Rode a streetfighter in japan was my first 1000 I've ridden rain mode helps if u have experience but yea nah won't save a beginner

[@stringersociety9983]

Bro him blurring the dash kills me 🤣🤣🤣

[@diggy-d8w]

Yeah & when it's Icy frostbitten bad you can make the world go away in the "Frozen Mode" b/c you trust the logic in the men who figured out the, "Rain Mode right down to the Com=mode" ? Do a video that explains how they put their ideas about all these "modes" to put it into the electronics so that sensors read/control what the bike is doing under those parameters. Other than that, let's all go out in bad weather to test stuff on giveaway prizes- what the Hey but pls be safe. peace

[@powaw]

Hi do you recommend me to get one? Im an experienced rider with 250cc motorcycles and never touched a 1000cc, am I ready?

[@andreimedre4268]

Really nice content and super explained, i also bought an S1000rr and if everything is fine get the licenses in 2 weeks 😅

[@joephu]

How cool would it be to have a track day head to head against a 600cc

[@stephenanderson2942]

I keep mine in race mode even when cruising around because I’m fucking stupid.

[@FoundingStockNZ]

How strange that I have the same Zero Gravity stickers like that on my 86 FJ1200, is it a style thing that I'm unaware of? 😅

[@williamsouthworth5275]

Hey Man when are you going to do Track Day Review???

[@raymocandler]

Put it in race pro 1 and turn the nanny's all the way down to actually feel the full power.

[@ryanbauer3135]

Hey yammie I was wondering about begginer choices for me who has been riding dirt bikes and am close to getting my licence for road bikes?

[@pdpotman420]

Are there any austin area MSF courses you would recommend?

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

Any with 200bhp litre bikes!

[@Jayjewelerofficial]

I wonder if a rs660 in rain mode feels like a 400 😅

[@matttarantino768]

Yammy u need 2 do a review after a BT flash!!!! Plzzz, I wana see ur reaction cuz it's a whole different bike!

[@BladePressure]

Yo! Take it easy on my future bike !

[@ozmosis0074]

Yeah BMW lives by "smooth is fast".

[@chalky042]

I ride a gen 1 and if the road is wet, even in rain mode, it will buck like a bitch if you go too hard on the throttle so you still have to watch out

[@ryann6919]

Get a Z900! Great 2nd bike.

[@motomaddox]

+1 for the Z900. Z900 Gang!

[@Krom1hell]

If you have enough grey matter between your ears the ride modes on a 1000 cc bike are enough to get you on your way.....You start in pit mode on 20 mph max....the use only 1/3 of the power, then 2/3....then rocket mode.... then there's the mv aguta that can increment in 1/10 of throttle power......Or you could just start on the bike that suits you and your experience, not your dream bike..... Now starting on a 200+ hp motorcycle is just silly, if you are not a racer at the amateur/intermediate level......a 140 hp 1000 cc motorcycle would be a strict maximum for anybody as a starter bike

[@herokillerstain4147]

Should just always keep spedo blurred.

[@costasgeorgiou5015]

Dude I love your videos but I still think your alil soft to what I was told growning up when I was getting my first bike. But I'm 50 now and things are why dif but I have always rode what you call a "liter" bike that wasn't talk years ago and I got bike with a turbo still 😁🤪. But yet my old ass has high powered boosted jet skis also my father always said I had the Tim Allen diseases lol keep rocking bro! Just my 2 cents. 😆

[@alimughal8030]

I’ve been riding since I was 14 on and off really but since I was 17 almost constantly on a 1600cc Indian and then I got a Ducati Supersport and got into a dumb wreck that was at low speed and due to a dumb mistake I knew not to do but was in a rush. I planned on getting a Penigale v2 but I have the opportunity to get a brand new s1k for very very cheap and while I feel terrified Ik I felt like that about 300s for awhile . If I ride in a lower power mode but with the aids turned down to normal I think I should be good it’s just ik I speed way to much on my Ducati and I’m scared if I hop on this I will get ahead of myself and do 180😭 and die. I’m 19 btw and been around bikes my whole life. Started on a 125cc from the 90’s and then a Indian chief bobber dark horse then my Supersport but I just don’t know if my riding has been as consistent and meaningful enough for me to hop on a 1k

[@koekeloer522]

Can you do stupid shizz like enable launch control in rain mode

[@tonymcflattie2450]

Hey slammie, you are like a cat with 9 lives. What a journey you had.

[@RevelationEndTimes-YiG2024YiG]

A "liter" bike?, oh wait, you mean, leader bike.

[@calvineaton8261]

Lol. Rain mode just changes the ignition timing.

[@cjjorge6636]

FYI motorcycle manufacturers can make a 1000 horsepower engine if they wanted to but it would kill all of us so they don't/ need that heat lol i like fast on a small cc bikes every bike i have had over 100hp don't give me joy going dumb ass fast. over 600cc is boring to me i have a.d.d and i like to move gears/gas /brakes all the time lol what ever flows your boat lol

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

What's the point of bikes like this other than impressing your friends or the occasional lap of the Nürburgring. Give me something that I can thrash a bit on a public road without getting into trouble or losing my license. Nursing high powered bikes along on public roads isn't fun, it's a PITA.

[@Mr450pro]

It’s not foolproof just look at Max Wrist, even with all driver assistance on, it will crash if you can’t ride.😂

[@Mat-zt4bi]

Its not , just got on the ground in a round about because of it

[@peteb6072]

My pan America in rain mode is still much faster then my KLR

[@williambostic3921]

Get any bike you want dont waste your money on low cc's

[@ryann6919]

Turbo Busa @0:50

[@bikelifebrad]

My 2018 BMW S1000RR gives you 150hp in rain mode

[@jonlee3081]

If I needed a computer to help me handle my bike, I'd just quit riding.

[@Dranreb865]

Wow... Im glad im not married to you..

[@jonlee3081]

@@Dranreb865 I'm happier than you.

[@Freddy-u5w]

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[@mociczyczki]

m1000 rr rain mode drsg race vs supersport 600 cos ypur words yammie mean not to much ypu dont even know how much power it have in rsin mode boi 🤭🫣 get real people want se see m1000 rr in rain mode vs sueprsport 600 👍🏻

[@maddie23578]

Luv watching this channel ❤️

[@Freddy-u5w]

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