Is [redacted] Gaster? - Undertale Theory

[@TheSoph_]

First

[@YouMayKnowMeAsNate]

Well played

[@cheesemanmaster]

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[@TheRealSuperKirby]

Wrong, I made this same video years before you did. Try again.

[@TheSoph_]

OMG you did lol. Subbed@@TheRealSuperKirby

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

​@@TheSoph_12:59 true wall labs laughing

[@godslaughter]

One of the funniest personal explanations for this REDACTED characters is Toby wanting to shove some character into the stable for some joke but ending up hating the joke and being like "you know what, no, fuck it" so he just shoves the entire script into limbo and scribbles over the character because he hates the joke he came up with one late night. Is this true? I don't know, but it's a funny thought.

[@lisatroiani6119]

BAD and NAUGHTY jokes get put in LIMBO FOR ALL ETERNITY

[@redwiltshire1816]

Honestly this makes perfect sense iv seen tons of devs do exactly that make a joke or gimmick not like it then probably just forgot about one day then saw it and went”eh just leave it for giggles and let people go crazy over it”

[@Maker0824]

That actually makes so much sense. I can totally envision myself doing that exact set of steps.

[@patlov]

@@redwiltshire1816 yall just be making anything your pfp

[@redwiltshire1816]

@@patlov I need to start keeping count of these replies lol

[@CalamitasCalliope]

I always have believed that REDACTED was an early test for "Grandpa Semi" before he was actually scrapped and turned into Gaster

[@semifollower1]

OMG SAMEEEE

[@kiwipomegranate]

I can't believe I didn't know that grandpa Semi was early Gaster, I learn new things about this game everyday it seems

[@basethecharcoal]

Why tf is he a ghost then 😭 omg

[@elio7610]

​@@basethecharcoal Maybe an early Napstablook too

[@basethecharcoal]

early napstablook, in waterfall@@elio7610

[@UwUBrick]

personally to me the sprite always looked like it was redacted too, like toby took a white brush so we can't see the original design (which actually plays into my theory that this was an early version of the mysterman fun event that was accidentally left in)

[@DohPixelheart]

bro, this is the exact same thought i had too

[@lipino7777]

exactly, why do ppl think it is it's actual sprite?

[@fabiosonhandogrande1697]

​@@lipino7777A lot of people misread both games' sprites, really...

[@MonkeySansIsReal]

what if its mysterman with a long wig?

[@olivius8891]

The only proof I need for Mystery Man to be legit is he was cool as hell in Halloween Hack 😎

[@ohmygodmateitbearinnitkid9251]

VARIK LOOK AT MY FUCKING POWERS

[@olivius8891]

@@ohmygodmateitbearinnitkid9251 *NULL AND VOID plays

[@danielmovieproductions316]

VARIK I’M GOING HOME

[@GoodOlJenkinsYT]

VARIK, YOU ARE NOT MAKING THIS EASIER.

[@ohmygodmateitbearinnitkid9251]

also i am still waiting for the new comic... luna release it pretty please :3

[@3NTR4PT4]

I always liked the idea that Gaster widely represents gaming creepypasta/unused game asset hunting in the early days of the internet. Some unused data COULD be or COULD NOT be Gaster, but unused data is diegetic to Toby's worlds just like how saving and loading is. So REDACTED, the stable, grandpa semi, the followers, mysteryman, and even unused areas as a whole could be considered "fragments" of Gaster because he exists in the depths of the game that nobody is supposed to see. A part of the game that sometimes leaks through in the form of FUN events.

[@TheMarioBBB]

i feel like redacted is a pretty obvious early version of the mysteryman room. same general shape, both in waterfall, both have "gaster" in them. my personal theory is that redacted was removed for being way too on the nose. there would be absolutely no mystery to mysteryman if he spoke in wingdings, or spat you into the soundtest, or used the theme in the sans grillby date etc. also it being locked behind dogcheck is like, a dead giveaway that its not canon

[@hachibeats]

its such a weird but fulfiling feeling that even for a game 8 years old theres so many new things being discovered, btw the video is really well made :D love it

[@vivideerie]

My theorie is that redacted is just a first draft for the mystery man. I think Toby knew he wanted gaster in waterfall somewhere but didn't know where so he made the stable first but I would assume realize that that's kind of weird and did it the way that we see it in the game now with the secret door. Redacted's room still exists as just a leftover from game development perhaps

[@ddaeby]

this ! exactly !

[@CharEx430]

I REALLY do think that the removal of redacted (and possibly grandpa semi from the story) are what inspired toby to create gaster. It really lines up to me with how gaster's room has a similar shape to room water redacted because toby probably based the mystery man event off of the removal of the original stable from the game. It has a very similar feel to something like Mario 64 B3313 where a good chunk of is DOES have grounds in actual removed content or datamined test levels, and then turns those concepts into a playable game and story based around the idea of removed content and early test builds. It fits really well with UT's metanarrative of aspects of a video game being portrayed as parts of the world and things that have a real impact on the game. This also very much lines up with pretty much all gaster related things being added noticeably late into development, because it very likely had never been planned from the start and the concept of it came later on in development drawing inspiration from what had actually been removed from the game.

[@nesstoolge]

I have a crazy theory, we’ve been manipulated and gaslit by big Gaster Blaster™️ into believing Gaster exists and he doesn’t actually exist

[@simply_curri1410]

My theory is that Redacted is what's left of a very early version of a scene with Sans, because of the fact that "Premonition" is playing. I think that the original scene was supposed to be another conversation with Sans, similarly to the one that happens at Grillby's, and that Toby decided to scrap, but while deleting the code, he just decided to say "y'know what fuck it", cobbled together some semi-crypric dialogue and decided to keep it in.

[@bukispecter9465]

We are SO back

[@Goinmach8]

The idea of gaster just hanging out on napstablooks farm is funny to me

[@doodlederp2546]

Redacted being Napstablooks Dad is now headcanon in my mind now Is Gaster can have 2 sons then Redacted can have family too!!!!

[@questionmarkquestionmarkques]

0:33 thought it was obvious that mettaton hired muffet - we know mettaton hires mercenaries in the core - she mentions mettaton "changing shape" in the shadows which could be him switching between the ex and box form - it doesnt make sense for any other character - we know for sure that mettaton is rich enough

[@orngjce223]

"Why did Chara climb the mountain?" It is implied that Chara had a traumatizing pre-mountain childhood, and quite possibly did not intend to survive the experience of falling down a hole. - Asriel says that Chara's reason for climbing the mountain "wasn't a happy reason". - Chara's room has a minifridge. This is something that indicates that Chara had food hoarding tendencies, which are common in children who have gone through serious abuse or neglect. - Chara was willing to commit a very slow and painful form of suicide. We _know_ it was slow because of the tape in the True Lab where the family was begging Chara to not die, which they would not have done if they just found Chara already dead. - Where did Chara get that knife from? Did they bring it with them? (This evidence is less strong.) - Finally, it is said in the prologue that there is a legend that people who climb the mountain never return. (Though it is possible the legend came into being _after_ Chara left, so this is also less strong as evidence.) Bonus: Frisk's reasons for climbing the mountain are unlikely to have been happy either: - Frisk's starting equipment is a bandage. The check text for it is that it has "already been used multiple times" (ew). Frisk is perfectly willing to reapply the bandage as a healing item when injured again later (double ew). - The Abandoned Quiche has special text for dropping it: "You leave the Quiche on the ground and tell it you'll be right back." - Even if the legend about Mt. Ebott being a mountain that nobody returns from wasn't present in Chara's time, it was _absolutely_ present by Frisk's time. Asriel even asks why Frisk would climb a mountain given those stories. - (This is less clear; it is likely that these options exist to be funny, not to imply something as serious as this.) Even if Chara is the narrator, I believe Frisk to be the one in charge of _which_ ACTs show up in the actual battles. If so, why is it that Frisk's go-to conflict resolution strategy is flirting? Wiggling hips? This is age-inappropriate behavior. Someone has to have exposed them to this kind of behavior, or if not, at _least_ nobody paid enough attention to them to keep them out of such things or explain them in an age-appropriate manner. I'm not saying Frisk was groomed but I'm not _not_ saying it. I hope this gives you something to be sad/disturbed about!

[@parafoxl7619]

Heck yes another video of the most underrated theory Channel in the world!!

[@nickfarace9339]

Agreed. 10 views my ass, this video is gettin SEEN.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

RedactedDess is so Based

[@SmudgedSketch]

I agree, love that theory

[@rascamedi0]

true, makes EVERYTHING feel connected

[@ma_cherri]

I like the idea but its most likely Redacted was a scrapped ghost. Toby might backtrack and use it as an appearance of Dess though it could work

[@tobiasbayer4866]

Idk to me RedactedDess is just a symptom of advanced Deltarune brainrot. Like yeah, there is barely any hints towards Dess and her fate in Deltarune itself, but now people seriously think an even more obscure reference in another game somehow relates to her? Sure... People are just grasping at straws imo.

[@rascamedi0]

@@tobiasbayer4866 theories are theories, even though it's probably not true, its fun to theorize about.

[@Ageblader111]

redacted's design actually reminds me of Sadako from The Ring It's look kinda looks like it has hair draped over the head/face and a weird arm hunched position like Sadako is contemporarily depicted like I mean if it was really meant to be one of Napstablook's family members, a silly reference like that would probably make sense.

[@adhamwashere5320]

Makes sense given that the Mystery Man's design is likely based on Uboa from Yume Nikki

[@d0ntwearit0ut]

If your theory is correct I'm glad they weren't used, poor Blooky fam :(

[@VaiCaDep0893]

I don't think neither Mystery Man nor [Redacted] is Gaster But I think Wing Gaster is the true Gaster

[@Ermageeerd]

"Hi! I'm Wing Gaster!" *_fucking dies_*

[@Matoro_9999]

The amount of time you most likely put Into these videos shows you truly deserve to be more popular.

[@Blastimation]

"A game should never crash on purpose" the same game: crashes multiple times on purpose for major plot points (for HUGE example omega flowey)

[@OneOnlyDan]

Those crashes aren't real crashes.

[@kiekz]

we are talking about crashes that clearly give you an error not those clean "crashes"

[@OneOnlyDan]

@@kiekz Nope. The crashes mentioned in the comment are the intentional "crashes" that happens as a part of the story. Those are just the game shutting itself off at a time when you wouldn't think it would, creating the illusion of a crash.

[@kiekz]

@@OneOnlyDan that's what i said

[@Bloop8279]

In the video's context of crashes it's talking about the crashes that are not intentional by the developer(s), not to where the game just purposefully closes itself out. Crashes only really happen when there's something wrong in the game's code that causes an error and results in the game being unable to stay open. The times when it's on purpose such as in the omega Flowey scene, are perfectly normal because there's nothing wrong with the game's code to cause it to ACTUALLY stop the game from working properly.

[@DiabloGregWindcharmerReal]

I THINK GONER KID IS ACTUALLY GASTER

[@thelegend2776]

Great vid, you're my favourite undertale/deltarune youtuber

[@aslexeyfromiller2.099]

I personally think that Redacted is Grandpa Semi.

[@rarecrom]

why is the editing so goated...

[@TheRandom_Boy22]

You know. Redacted really reminds me of the egg man from deltarune. When he disappeared the dialog of his presence only notes the fact that there wasnt someone here. "Well, there is a man behind tree/ well there is no man behind the tree" it was something like that, I cant remember off the top of my head. Later the stuff with the egg in itself " what egg?" And the fact that it never leaves you. Also there is a real heated debate with the valentine's letter. Maybe toby decided to remake this character into whatever he is doing with the egg man. Tbh good for him, he got a promotion from "redacted" to "egg man" . Other people say it's the river person. Not redacted, the letter. Hmm, but just a thought.

[@XxguaxinimxX.]

Interesting! I never thought about redacted being an amalgamate! Great video!

[@Jacob_Redacted]

I believe REDACTED actually IS cannon! Or atleast officially recognized, I belive there was a piece of official art that featured all the characters, and in it was both mysteryman AND redacted! And they where both removed later on, (in typical gaster fashion.) I believe this had happened twice actually, in two different art pieces. Though I do not remember the specifics of what they were.

[@kovexplay]

I don't think this counts since it's merch designed presumably by a fan and Toby already mentioned that merch isn't canon I doubt redacted can give us any relevant information and I believe it is just an unused sprite that for some reason uses wingdings. It's also connected closer to the stable rather than anything gaster-related

[@alejandrosoto8592]

They were probably removed because Redacted is an unfinished sprite and Toby always seems to not want Mystery Man or any allusion to Gaster beyond the followers to appear on merch.

[@sheogorath6834]

Actually, only Mysteryman was removed. Redacted remained for some reason. (Same for the followers)

[@Jacob_Redacted]

@rath6834 oh shit really? huh, its been a while since i thought or heard about it, very neat! wonder what thats all about.

[@Benderblender]

What official art that you're referring to has redacted in it?

[@CyanCreate]

i think that redacted is just an old version of mystery man

[@leontriestoart]

Redacted being an amalgamate is a possibility that makes a lot of sense honestly, especially some of the amalgamates(mostly the memoryheads) seemingly having refferences to gaster. The attacks that resemble gasters head without cracks, the fact that they seem to be partially made of a gaster blaster, and the whole "calling through the phone" thing. Maybe redacted was planned to be similar to the memoryheads in having refferences to gaster. The memory heads honestly do feel a bit out of place compared to the other amalgamates, especially since we never see them return to their families ...

[@Woganog]

I think that Redacted is called Redacted for a reason, that being because it was completely scrapped from the game and "redacted". There's no bizarre lore connection, it's just a scrapped Gaster draft.

[@GSavel]

I think "Redacted" was the original design of Gaster, and the stable was the original concept for the Fun Event. Toby has stated that DELTARUNE is based on a fever dream about an ending of a game which (at the time) didn't exist. There's a possibility that Gaster appeared in said dream, and that "Redacted" is a more faithful representation of how Gaster appeared in the fever dream. Over time, Gaster's appearance changed to the "Mystery Man" sprite, and becoming the mysterious, isolated, yet seemingly well-meaning scientist with a bit of a nerdy side we've talked to on Twitter. I mean, you can't tell me that the guy who fell into an alternate universe/his own game, talks to people on Twitter, built a giant energy source that has several puzzles, can re-arrange itself, and blasts a banger 24/7 is not at least _somewhat_ of a nerd.

[@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard]

He's a scientist, he hyperfixtated on a topic he likes so hard he made it his whole job

[@DAVINNIA314]

Isn't it true that there was a Vynil or something, that had both the [Redacted] and the MysteryMan sprites in the cover, but later on MysteryMan's was replaced by a Heart while [Redacted] was left there untouched? The only proof I have of this is a not-so-high quality image on Google from a portuguese language source, so could someone with more experience looking for old images please help me confirm this? That'd be much appreciated! Anyways, if that's true, then that'd point more towards MysteryMan being Gaster, because it was purposefully taken out as something that must not be seen much yet; all while leaving [Redacted] there as a quirky extra to aknowledge its existence

[@fortnj]

I'm completely on board with the idea of Redacted being a scrapped amalgamate. Adding on to your ideas about it, the term "redacted" fits in with the amalgamates and their creepy, mysterious vibe. Similar to the blank names of the memoryheads or the garble of text that shows up when you try attacking some of the amalgamates.

[@dozeycody7531]

Theory: Gaster was LITERALLY scattered across time and space. More accurately, Undertale. He is scattered across Undertale. Thats why you hear his leitmotif so much. Thats why you can find a lot of Goner NPCs. Thats why Sans and Papyrus showed up.

[@BurrtoDaApe]

Hes just a placeholder

[@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard]

I want to just say i adore when you are all confident and say things definetly, it feels like a nice breeze of fresh air to me when it doesnt feel like we walk on eggshells to avoid "arguments" with people Personally i remember being on this era i headcanoned super hard back in the early days that Redacted was somehow Gaster's wife who suffered an even worse fate and was his motivation to research spacetime and such and ended up like him But after that phase i too thought there was no way Redacted was Gaster, i felt like the dogcheck was a clear enough game statement on what is meant to be found by players and what isn't

[@cheeseboi8891]

redacted could be an amalgamate of a piece of gaster?

[@NotASnaccImAMel]

I don't think I've seen a single piece of gaster fanart using the REDACTED sprite, but pop off queen /lh/nsrs

[@nickfarace9339]

This was a very big point of discussion early on after Undertale released, in the underminers reddit.

[@GuyOnTheYouTube]

Its nice to see a fellow small content creator getting recommended to me. Keep it up!

[@3DFella]

From what I’ve heard, there is actually evidence that the REDACTED sprite used to look different, but Toby drew over it in white at some point, which I find to be pretty interesting if true. iirc the evidence was something along the lines of the file data showing that the sprite was edited at some point.

[@Realdavidfufy]

It might also be a beta memoryhead before he decided to make them connected to deltarune. Makes sense since we don't see the memoryheads in the epilogue

[@Glitch-the-YouTuber]

I always thought redacted was just a piece of gaster, because he was like shattered across time and space.

[@milessoup9246]

Really random hypothethis: Although I have my own speculation on who redacted is, if it was an amalgamate of a Napstablook family member and some other monster/monsters, I think maybe at least one of the other components would be a gyftrot and/or Aaron, although Gyftrot would be more likely since Aaron is already part of Lemon Bread.

[@milessoup9246]

The main reason for thinking that it would be part Gyftrot or Aaron is them being put in the stable.

[@NatetheNintendofan]

​@milessoup9246 not all amalgamates are mixed eg Kanako Ketsukane.

[@TheCookiePup]

I think what happened is Redacted & Stable were meant to be part of a less serious (optional?) puzzle, but Toby didn't finish it, so he put it aside, naming the character redacted in the files. Maybe later he got inspired by it to make a whole new story and character, W. D. Gaster, named after the Wing Dings font the scrapped character used.

[@joaovictor-nr6mi]

0:49 deltarune site was created 2015, but there was just a black image called ''him'', that if you bright the image, it would appear a message of entry 17 ''this experiment seems very very interesting'', prolly refering to deltarune (you can use wayback machine to check)

[@YouMayKnowMeAsNate]

Was just thinking about you the other day

[@ma_cherri]

Not only is there no evidence Gaster was redacted from reality, its even explicitly stated otherwise. Asgore took time to replace such a good scientist as Gaster after his disapeareance, which means Asgore still remembered him. Plus, gonerkid was talking about themselves, they dont exist in other universes and everythings fine. He simply got shattered throughout time and space, no redaction mentionned.

[@Dudeman23rd]

WHADDYA MEAN THE GONER DISAPPEARING NOISE IS GASTER'S THEME BACKWARDS AWLDIFJHAEWGLA

[@Axivele1]

Love the fact that people still talk about this game after so many years, especially about its mysteries

[@nickfarace9339]

I don't remember if this was ever proven, but I remember early in the underminers reddit when people put the most effort into researching this stuff. Someone said the "sprite" used for what we refer to as redacted here was a piece of what makes up Muffet's battle sprite. Even if that specifically isn't true, I think at least what it implies is. Redacts was something toby was toying with creating an event for, but at some point didn't like it and cut it. Moved the room to an unused room, hit the flag that makes it unloadable due to dogcheck, and moved on. But the sprite used there likely pointed to a specific place in the array, and rather than do the same he did with the room and just "move" it, he overwrote it. Just continued on from that place in the array. So what we are seeing is the game loading whatever visual data he put in that space. Though with the dimensions the original sprite had, so it doesn't look quite right. That is what I always believed anyway. It always just was a bit clouded by the fact Toby had some intentionally "unfinished" type hidden things he wanted or expected people to find. This one was supposed to NOT be found. And it really wouldn't have been because dogcheck was the way he stopped people trying to find the intentional stuff in the data accidentally finding the actual unfinished cut things. Its just like, SUPER in line with what he was going for with gaster so its easy to think it meant something. I mean hell, it might have even been cut content from trying to implement gaster! Don't really think so though, because of it's development being obviously around the time of the waterfall section and gaster stuff didn't really show up in data files till much later. IMO, with how the animation is identical to Napstablook fading in and out when you approach in the farm, I agree with the other guy in the comments. It might have been an early event based on Mettaton before he was a robot. Would even sort of fit with the development around the time of waterfall stuff because I think Toby intended to go a different direction with mettaton early on (as evidenced by the "you can marry a robot!" claim in the kickstarter never making it into the game)

[@Ricklet0ons]

You've hitted the main stream undertale algorithm, keep it up

[@orggannick]

Redacted could actually just be Lemon Bread - it contains Shyren's sister who would probably end up around this part of Waterfall after the amalgamates were returned to their families

[@somedudenammedryan4552]

I honestly think that while redacted isn't gaster now thanks to the video, i do think there is still importance to them. Toby knew that people would find this anyway, because it is explicitly redacted. I don't think the original script just said "redacted" so unless it's a joke to toby I do think he still expected people to find it. One theory I remember hearing a long time ago was that deltarune, when completed, would un-redact the room. I don't think this will happen... but I'm holding out hope lol

[@cryingsobbing]

good theory i appreciate the nuance like how theres a dogcheck vs gaster rooms are more accessible. i think sometimes with theories ppl think about stuff a little too hard haha.

[@SmartGuyWhoIsntNerd]

i believe mystery man is Gaster is mystery man because i saw a video where someone took a screenshot after the end of entry 17 and brightened it they saw mystery man but u have to wait a minute u before ajusting the brightness and stuff

[@thatoneidiotcurrentlyliving]

“why are you watching this random video with ten views?” *checks view count*

[@frostythesnowmanlol]

My personal theory is that redacted was a scrapped Napstablook sprite that Toby Fox scribbled over, and after he realized leaving the stable sends the player to the sound test room, he thought it would have been funny to screw with the fanbase by making it speak in wingdings and renamed the sprite to redacted

[@Durrsun]

When I first saw redacted I thought he looked like a banana lol

[@afturburn]

Redacted is most likely a test to make sure the wingdings font was working.

[@frukola64]

I won't forget that time when i was trying to sleep and gaster teleported me to the white desert, man.

[@itsflyguy5353]

my personal theory is that Redacted is a very early test for the fade-out effect that that Gaster uses as well as a Wing-Ding test (maybe Toby wanted to use lower case Wing-Dings as well)

[@justice8718]

Then fanon made them canon.

[@eszmeraldajazminkovacs4418]

I Love it that this community is still so active.

[@nerdo12gd88]

whenever i see stuff like this, i remember that toby fox is kinda like an edgelord in the way that he makes the most spooky stuff in the middle of no where. redacted looking like that and speaking in wingdings and stuff could be toby being funny and edgy because wingdings ARE pretty like unsettling as text in the way that its mysterious and alien you know?

[@Teryte]

Such a shame this video only got 10 views

[@Pixilpawzz]

hmm redacted in stable? stable like horse? horse like knight? WOWZA!!!

[@xzwf]

i didn't notice what your pfp was at first so when gangster spongebob appeared as a talk sprite in this video i lost my mind

[@KodyaRose]

6:56 this is when my brain was like: THE KNIGHT THE KNOGHT THE KNIGHT THE KNIGHT (Y’know cuz knights have a horse in chess?)…(and the horse stable…)

[@User-dyn]

2:55 also because neither wants to be in the situation they're currently in but have to fight you because of circumstances they dug themselves into

[@TruelySilliness]

"Mystery man is gaster" mfs when i show them the head that one of the followers are holding:

[@_P2M_]

has a brother named comic sans and a REDACTED named REDACTED

[@LakeGameCreepr]

Imagine if redacted is just an unfinished Blooky sprite lmao

[@vevesumi]

i did not know about reversing the teleporting sound you learn something new everyday

[@lott_hf134]

nice vid, earned a sub

[@alyx5491]

The fact that people think that the Mystery man is a worse design than the odd condom looking dude is still baffling to me.

[@redninja0078]

There’s also the official Tarot Cards. One unused card contains the Mystery Man, in all their skeletal glory. It has their door, the envoirment of The Core, and the card is named… *Gaster*

[@foxglove4814]

as a sidenote, I highly believe that redacted is actually the first iteration of the gaster easter egg, being that he has a very similar interaction to the mystery man, just somewhat in reverse, being that he appears as you get closer rather than disappearing once you approach and interact either that, or he might be the the 'original gaster', or the room he was supposed to be encountered in, however due to his shattering this ceased to exist along with himself (this admittedly might be a stretch) also, hot take, what if the other two gaster is referring to in entry 13 is actually two other pieces of himself? WAIT if the stable is a removed object, that implies the redacted sprite that appears in it is a horse, right? what chess piece uses the horse as a symbol representing it? the knight

[@Ermageeerd]

LOCAL BLOB PLANNING TO DESTROY THE WORLD!

[@AFancyDuck]

I think redacted AND mystery man are gaster, as redacted and gaster talk in wingdings, and in the official tarot card for gaster, its the mystery man. I believe that the mystery man is the main appearance of gaster, and redacted is like his vocal chords or something like that

[@3nzo_279]

To me this room was purely made for testing. The wingdings were probably a test for different fonts, especially Gaster’s, and the sprite just toby quickly made in MS Paint as a placeholder. The ghost-like effect when you approach Redacted is probably meant to test the script for napstablook’s same effect.

[@nick_panag]

A lot of the questions that you mentioned at the start are actually answered at the final part of the pacifist route. Asriel said that Chara Climbed the mountain for "not a very happy reason", which i think he's implying that it was to commit suicide. There's a couple more but I can't remember clearly.

[@daJEGJEGJEG]

Another thing to point out is that a gaster follower says he holds a piece of him. That could be his face found in his corpse (he fell into the core). Mystery man looks dead because he probably is the ghost of Gaster and the face was his original body. The colors dont matter because ghosts are white anyway

[@NovaAeternus]

11:24 could just be sans, as he watches you throughout the game, waterfall having different dialogue for when you perform a concert with shyren, where in pacifist sans started selling toilet paper tickets, but if you killed papyrus (?) and start a concert, it just saya a hooded figure is watching

[@MonkeySansIsReal]

i think [redacted] its the mistery man with a long wig.

[@F0URF0URF0UR]

What about the merch that came out, it was a tote bag or something similar that had sprites of every character on it, including Mystery Man AND Redacted but then either one of them or both got removed when they updated the merch. I bet Toby just plays into it to keep fucking with everyone wondering which is Gaster

[@knucklesproductions4452]

I think Redacted is Gaster but in an early version, Because: -Both were destined to be in Waterfall -They speak in Windings -The way you encounter them is similar -The value 666 does not resemble that of Redacted, this indicates why it is a random value in the early creation stage of Gaster

[@sand5305]

I say neither are Gaster untill toby says otherwise Or they are both because they say "gaster was shattered across time and space" So I dunno maybe think about it

[@user-st7km1if1f]

I thought it was just gaster with a towel on his head

[@anavalbuenalopez-fonseca1878]

It may be that redacted was first thought of as an amalgam, and then his sprite inspired gaster

[@Ellesiumss]

Horse stable lead to an stable, but inside there's a dummies that look like a horses, one of them is a training horse? You noticed snails everywhere, on right side you saw an market of hotel, supposed to look like a hotel, full of snails? You saw a blue snail with blue jacket and brown snail with violet outlines, it was confetti, a romantic atmosphere filling your nostrils... You saw an old doll, sitting and sleeping on hay, there's a sign saying "Do not disturb". The skeleton looking puppet remains asleep.

[@jorjeezealien]

I believe, because of the stable's location, REDACTED was either an early Napstablook or maybe even an early plan for Mad Dummy/Mew Mew's role on the farm, since the ghosts are probably all related. Plus, kinda looks like a ghost if you squint.

[@GsusCrust]

No. But Gaster IS Redacted

[@H.A.Sproductions]

We can all agree that the Gaster follower that is holding a ghost is holding Gaster

[@thestarryeyedobserver]

seems to me like it’s just a scrapped and now placeholder sprite.

[@ofconsciousness]

I really enjoyed this, thank you.

[@Selevur175]

I think that redacted was an early version of mystery man and the stable was repurposed into the grey door

[@virtualdash]

1:06 Someone send this to JimmyHere

[@Kaimana470]

I think redacted is just a machine quite literally one of gasters old computers listing a redacted code