Is Sadaf Kanwal Wrong? | Feminism 101 | Shahroz Sabzwari | THAT Laapata Scene | Ayeza Khan

Is Sadaf Kanwal Wrong? | Feminism 101 | Shahroz Sabzwari | THAT Laapata Scene | Ayeza Khan
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[@afifaahmed7394]

I belong to a very religious family. I m a kind of woman who stays home and takes care of kids and husband when he is the bread winner but my husband is the one who I remember tied my shoe laces in front of everyone when I was holding the baby. This doesn’t make any of us superior. We appreciate each other.

[@Zeb786]

You are right it’s good your husband done this . If wife’s caring to husband and done this what would you like to say.

[@janmejaydas1268]

Lucky ❤️🇮🇳

[@afifaahmed7394]

I absolutely agree. There has to be mutual decisions on how you want to run matters in your house. No one should force women to stay and home just because you’re culture demands so.

[@afifaahmed7394]

If at a certain point wife does so it’s fine just because her husband needs it not because he expects it.

[@lovelightandgrace]

I believe that if I love someone then picking their shoes or cleaning their vomit should come from love n care whether wife does for husband or vice versa. When God created us then where lies the question of superior or inferior

[@saranaveed02]

The ONLY problem I have with Sadaf Kanwal's statement is that she herself enjoys ALL rights that a woman should. But she was trying to undervalue a lot of other women and their capabilities.

[@TAM0823]

It isn't the only problem I had but appreciate your perspective

[@MiraasbyMariyamDawood]

Absolutely. All the supposed "work" she listed and accepted that she herself doesn't do it, there are women who have to do it as compulsion. Who have to carry children sometimes even earn yet look after their husbands like a babysitter. And yet abused, violated and even killed for it ( woman murdered for not making hot Sehri for husband) Miss Kanwal just put herself on a pedestial and lectured about something she has no clue about, put her in that life she wouldn't survive a day.

[@auniazahra1943]

Yes, she is very privileged and benefits from the 'liberal infulance' and then claims that we are becoming too liberal.

[@rahmed5701]

💯

[@amnasalman3407]

Yes she was sounding her opinion only she was demeaning in particular

[@daffyduck9187]

i think any woman who wants to take care of her husband out of love should, whereas i also believe that if a man is not respecting her, not taking care of her nor loving her, he doesnt deserves all that love. So it varies from person to person and situation.

[@Zeb786]

Exactly 👌

[@aneeqakhan9846]

Xactly..... Agreeee

[@rahmed5701]

"Sheroz attention deficit 😂 playing to the religious gallery." Amna spot on and on 🔥🙌🏾👏🏾

[@amnasalman3407]

Ttly♥️

[@zarinakhan9024]

No doubt 😊

[@yusrakhan795]

Thank you Aamna for calling out Shahroz Sabzwari. He knows exactly what he’s talking about. He doesn’t have one hit project and now wants to be popular among the misogynists which we have wayy to many in this country

[@zarinakhan9024]

💯👍

[@amnasalman3407]

👌🏼

[@adeensyed]

Hahaha he is so desperate to get role in KRQ next project 🤣

[@FifaMobilePlayerAnd_Edits]

he does, Hassad is his hit project

[@drmalnoor]

I often enjoy A&H's conversations, but this episode had me cringing at points: 1.Hassan's determination to lead the conversation on these sensitive issues around gender, gender roles and their projection in Pakistani TV hits at the core of the issue Amna was patiently trying to explain to him: Patriarchy is so deeply embedded in us that even the most well meaning male (like H) felt compelled to mansplain lopsided power dynamics and make excuses for it. Listen first please :) 2. Sadaf and Shahroz's demonizing feminism and liberalism as Amna says, is a conscious white-washing of their image. Private life aside, Sadaf doesn't understand or appreciate the privileges afforded to her by Feminism - she's a successful model in a conservative country like Pakistan and able to marry happily *despite* her unconventional work is because women like Vinnie, Nadia H and Iraj made it "respectable" and therefore possible! That's FEMINISM. Respect it, it's given her money and fame and social mobility! Hassan, your making allowances for her immature pandering was not cool, some lines have to be drawn. Celebrity status doesn't absolve anyone. What you allow will continue. 3. Lapata: Hassan announced at the outset that the scene didn't feel like the big deal. You know why? Because the scene was playful and therefore felt harmless - which is the trap. A women publicly and casually lying about sexual harassment is really extreme. Why? Because the stigma is going to be worse for her - it's more likely to get her INTO trouble than OUT of it. In the last episode of SH, Hassan mentioned how the kidnapping scene in Dunk could have been cut out because it didn't service the plot and was tone-deaf, why should that not apply to Lapata? 4. Hassan please don't throw imaginary stats around: "90% of women" "80% of men." Made up numbers don't validate your point :) Apologies if this felt stern, I write this with the kindest intent, we are all learning and in this together. Hassan, I usually enjoy your analysis greatly! Thank you and Amna for your hard work. You guys are fab! I wish production houses would push more content for a kinder, more tolerant and nuanced Pakistan.

[@rahmed5701]

Best comment

[@requiem8971]

Great comment and I agree. Its so obvious both Sadaf and Sharoze are trying to whitewash their image by using the religion card. And Hasan's justificarion for the scene in lapata is uncalled for. Like Dunk, the scene was completely unnecessary and should be called out as such.

[@elusion2012]

Wow I've screenshot'd this.

[@rabiaarif4785]

What a great comment! TOTALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING MENTIONED 👏

[@aiman-bm5zu]

explained it perfectly!

[@sabicashaikh7283]

YOU GUYS ARE FORGETTING ONE LINE THAT SADAF KANWAL SAID THAT WAS THE MOST WRONG "USKO MERA NAHI PATA HONA CHAHIYE, LEKIN MJHE USKA HONA CHAHIYE".

[@AF-ho6nh]

Ayeza doesn’t want to give interviews because she tries to have a ‘clean’ image and avoid controversies but then why does she choose such controversial scripts and endorsements: - Mere paas tum ho - has an affair while being married -Yaarian - has an affair with a guy, and then blames her sister for it -Faiza Cream - endorsing fairness cream - Laapata - threatening a man with false allegation of harassment I’m just surprised at how lightly she gets off. No wonder she avoids interviews and she knows she will be grilled lol

[@imanahsan63]

Loved the way Amna talked about this topic!! Absolutely agree with everything she said!! Makes me so glad that women like Amna also exist, thank you for educating the masses with this platform!!

[@hashhina7324]

After receiving so much backlash after their wedding, sadaf and shehroz seized the best opportunity that came their way to earn the approval of typical pakistani society. Because nothing can make typical pakistanis more happy than hearing something against ferminism and something that makes men seemingly dominant over women.

[@sumairaafzal2565]

What do you mean by typical? Our religious norms and values are typical for you? That's surely not the case But seemingly yes

[@hashhina7324]

@@sumairaafzal2565 when did i use the word religion i wonder? 🤔

[@javedcooks2580]

@@sumairaafzal2565 Miss, cultural values are typical. Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) used to do his own work. So, this thing is not related to religion.

[@samiaijaz6978]

Islam and being a Muslim is different. Don't portray Pakistani culture as Islamic culture

[@ritizasentertainmentchanne9622]

Hina. Ap ne sumander ko koozay main bund kar diya. That’s exactly what happened. N sadaf ne jo kuch uss particularly clip main kaha k humara culture yeh hai n mera husband …. That was solely intended to make jealous Sira. Apni sotan ko jalanay k liye n usko neecha dikhanay k liye uss ne uss platform ko use kartay huay woh sari bakwas ki k dekho main hun achi biwi n achi biwi essi hoti hai jesi k main hun. Thats all about it.

[@shahlazamir7604]

I am a doctor living in USA for quite some time.Despite my busy schedule i love watching pakistani dramas,and I like your choices of dramas and love your reviews.The comment of amna on gender roles was right on spot.My 91 year old mother ,raised in 50s always said,its not wrong for wives to make more money and have more aggressive career,but then the men should learn to step down from their pedestal and help women in household too. well done.

[@gerryburntwood9617]

My mother went the extra mile to ensure her sons knew how to cook, clean, hemming, sewing on buttons, launder,change nappies( we had a big family); and prepare baby bottle, and baby feed! She did this to ensure that none of the wives of my brothers would have to forfeit their rights to a career, because the male is incompetent in household duties! The girls were also taught DIY, and other skills erroneously associated with ‘ men’s’ forte, , like changing a tyres, putting oil in the car, etc! Both my brothers are excellent and creative cooks too! We also had the first female aeronautical engineer in our family, who is also competent in her household skills! We all can be trained in doing all sorts of life skill work, most Pakistani mothers ‘cripple’ their sons by spoiling them!

[@pratibha5773]

Aamna Ma'am you had worded everything about feminism so nicely. Thank You! So much to learn from you.

[@saranaveed02]

Also, Sadaf didn't know what RUBBISH she was saying. "Main iske kapre bhi istiri karti hoon, jo k main nahi karti." I mean are you even in your senses?

[@saranaveed02]

@@zeysayispeakalot1840 exactly.

[@fatimahjavaid9249]

I think the only problematic thing sadaf said was ‘sherry ko mera nai pata hona chye’ Which basically nulled all her rights And his duties

[@Nowhere536]

Laapata scene was problematic. Made it so casual, and to get free food. Aamna played both sides. In the beginning she said she didn't think of it much, but then came around and did say it was not a trivial issue. I appreciate that.

[@mahdiafarooquii1587]

Your discussion on various topics are very balanced and logical... Even when you guys disagree with one another on any topic,we dont feel any toxicity growing between you...& enjoy an absolute freedom to take the opinion we like the most... This shows the great understanding between you....love you both... love your partnership..... And yes.... Hassan...zyada baat kiya karein... We dont get tired of you!

[@Zeb786]

Right

[@sunalirose6913]

I totally agree with amna completely. She was completely on point regarding ayeza scene. She can prove liar in any manner. There is no need to show specifically harassment as a lie

[@maani1642]

HAHAHAA I AM SORRY BUT CANT STOP LAUGHING ON WHAT HAPPENED WITH HASSAN 😂😂😂😂😂😂 VOICE NOTES !!!

[@mariafarooq2066]

I think Hasan forgot that this is the nation, who throw the garbage where you write 'do not throw garbage here' and park their car in no parking zone. Hasan you should ask to give you spoiler then nobody would have send you spoiler

[@nabiahkhan8474]

Well said 😇

[@video4click]

In my opinion, after their affair and then marriage most people criticize and started to hate them and they’re trying to portray their positive image. I think they could do it some other way but not using religion for their purpose

[@asmanoureen3923]

Dear both , I really liked they way you present your program & keeps it simple. Perhaps, I was bit saddened to see her Kurta. I’m glad you realised it was wrong.

[@6myra6]

Yes very interesting point. I didnt think of it that way.

[@daffyduck9187]

although i believe that laapata scene wasnt appropriate or ethically right, but the way hassan defends women in every context is just soo unreal and adorable.

[@SomethingHaute]

Thanks. That's so sweet -- Hassan

[@gerryburntwood9617]

Hasan is the son many mothers should have, and a type of husband I’d wish on my Pakistani friends.,

[@SomethingHaute]

@Gerry Burntwood thank you. You're way too kind -- Hassan

[@MsGhasib]

Hassan! Are you married? :P

[@gerryburntwood9617]

@@MsGhasib yes he is and happily so, marshallah!

[@aminahshahid8878]

Ayeza is not that "woke" person, she never has been like Mahira or some other Pakistani actors

[@tahahayat6332]

Hahahahaha the way Amina copied the questions of the interviewier who interviewed Sadaf Shahroz is epic😂😂

[@zahroohussain7460]

Hat’s off to Aamna aapi for so respectfully responding to people’s comments about her kurtha. If only more people could display this maturity and measure. Nice one.

[@maani1642]

On Sadaf kanwal's comment: Marriage is a contract. A companionship not a competition ka kis ka darja uper hai kis ka nechay. Its a team of two against all the difficulties and challenges of life. Does she mean mard ka darja buland hai because wo kamata hai family paalta hai? What even? Biwi bhi ussi ke bachay paalti hai un ki tarbiyat kerti hai. Us ke kamaye huey paisy ko sahi jaga utilise kerti hai. What does she even mean by mard ka darja buland hai. Dono ka darja barabar hota hai. Darja buland honay ka mtlb hota hai ke agar wo kuch ghalat ker jae you cant question it because he is not answerable to you because us ka darja buland hai. Ya darja buland honay ka mtlb hai wo zayada respect deserve kerta hai aur biwi nahi kerti? Issi soch ne aj society ko is jaga pohanchaya hai. Ke femicide is now a routine just because females consider themselves kam darjay ki-to men.

[@TAM0823]

I usually agree with Hassan but here Aamna made the right call on both topics. Sadaf Kanwal did sound condescending and I agree that she and her husband wanted the publicity to stay relevant and they achieved their goal. The scene in “Laapata” was problematic in the current environment. Ayeza Khan may be clear about promoting herself to make money but she should have said “no” to that scene. Having said that, it is not just her but the director and scriptwriter who should have steered clear from the start.

[@ranikhan2407]

@@saminakhan4038 The First Scene of Ayeza With Dukandar

[@TAM0823]

@@saminakhan4038 The scene where Ayeza Khan went to buy badaam-piste and the shopkeeper wanted her to clear her previous debts. She refused and responded by recording a video accusing the shopkeeper of harassment.

[@amnahaq1245]

As far as the scene in Laapata is concerned, i don’t think we need ANYTHING that doubts the victim’s truthfulness in a country where women are being brutally murdered and beheaded. 90% awaam tv dramas deikhti hai aur unse chizain pick karti hai. This was absolutely irresponsible on Hum Tv’s part.

[@amnabeg679]

Exactly already it is impossible to make people believe that the woman is telling the truth about being harassed or being eve teased and people always blame the victim and amidst that mainstream media is showing this to masses how easy it is for women lie or fake about such issue.

[@alvenawasim3572]

When two people are disagreeing and you agree with both! 😂. This was hands down, the best conversation we've had in this country recently.

[@dearsntears]

Hello Aamna Ji, I don't really understand what really went wrong by you wearing Om written Kurta. It could have been seen as your perspective of love and equality to any other religion. You are such a sensible, understanding, rationale person, you can never hurt anybodys sentiments. We still love you more and more.

[@kavi4626]

Absolutely agree,wearing something which is reflective of another religion in no ways make you unislamic or any less of a Muslim.preety disappointing that you as a woke woman, educated, liberal and respectful of others would bow down to populist rants.did not expect this from you@Amna

[@mariam1844]

Totally agree with you. I was not expecting this from Amna. The word OM is as sacred as Allah or God or Khuda. The essence is same. I'm so sorry and ashamed that ppl in Pakistan do not have the freedom of expression anymore.

[@anuradhakhanna3930]

On the same page here

[@uroojkhan7947]

As a Muslim we are not suppose to promote other religions and religious things… respecting other religions is different and promoting one is different…

[@mariam1844]

@@uroojkhan7947 I dont think she was promoting any religious beliefs, and one should not have such a fragile faith that other religious scriptures break it. By the way Om is same as یا ھو in sufism

[@soniyah846]

I love how you addressed the Kurta topic so sensibly! I wish celebrities had the same approach to these kind of things

[@sohaarif8709]

I agree with Aamna. The way sadaf said it was patronizing and showed that this is the right way and other women that don’t think like this are wrong.

[@tayyabanajib1604]

She was implying roles for women which is equal to institutionalizing misogyny.

[@rahmed5701]

@@tayyabanajib1604 spot on

[@ananyakumar6381]

“Mistakes are a fact of life. It is the response to error that counts.” Dear Amna & Hassan, really appreciate your sensitive response. Sending love & best wishes from 'Humsaya mulk'. An ardent fan.❤️

[@fatimaali881]

Kya baat hai.. Padosi desh nhi, hamsaya mulk 👍😜

[@fatimahasan7710]

Who are these Indians....why don't we see more of such Indians

[@saksheekumar]

@@fatimahasan7710 Indians are full of love 💘, - An Indian

[@S_Parveen]

@@fatimahasan7710 bahen isi page pr bohot saare hain,😁We love Hassan and Aamna,❤️love from humsaya mulk🇮🇳

[@saadiiaa]

@@fatimahasan7710 please be polite & show your charming personality… i am sure you’re a person with beautiful nature😊

[@kittyperry3]

Absolutely agree with Amna over the Laapata controversy. The character could do it but the scene was normalising it as it could have been avoided but they chose to show it in a reckless way

[@amnasalman3407]

Exactly

[@zoobia8928]

the point is that most of the harassment cases dont have proofs so they get dismissed from courts. And by normalizing this stance that women casually lie about harassment you are taking away the only power that the victim has (truth). When you establish this narrative that most women lie about harassment maybe the girl who wanted to publicly name or shame her harasser will stay silent because no one will believe her without proofs

[@sarahs5870]

This! Women can’t walk around with a camera on their person at all times to prove harassment and believe me if they did, a LOT of men would be punished.

[@aayatahmed1802]

The way Hasan and Amna were arguing over "Jhooti larki", it was so raw and cute. You literally feel like you are there with them. Such an intellectual and decent conversation. Absolutely loved it!

[@AnikaNawarAhmed]

I sooo happy that you guys talked about how all this patriarchy is going on for generations and women don't even realize that what wrong things they are taught from childhood

[@amnasalman3407]

👍🏼

[@sanahaq167]

Excuse me!!! Women are not taught wrong things, Pakistani women are taught with the best culture that is why they are leading in every sector of life. Only the millennials are failed to keep a balance because of the liberal philosophy and going away from Islamic teachings and real Pakistani culture

[@Zees_cooking.]

Hasan the fact that you warned everyone about spoilers made them do that to you 😂😂😂 if you hadnt said anything, koi na bhejta spoiler. Lol.

[@humeraamjad2143]

I agree 100% . It made me google the novel and read. However, I did not send any spoiler to Hassan

[@anon2174]

I was about to write in comment section about the characters depiction in the drama from the novel and the plot, since I have read th novel some 14 years ago not once but twice ...but before I could type anything Hassan announced warning against giving those who are giving spoilers..🙃🙃..

[@zarinakhan9024]

Tbh I love spoilers as I am aging and lacking patience😀. I wonder if people will give more spoilers to Dear Hassan for other dramas too😜

[@Jessmiller4]

Legit don't understand how does X person wearing something hurt someone completely unrelated's sentiments. The level of so-called "sensitivity" is for sure downright abysmal and absurd to even comprehend. Get a life, people! Amna wanted to wear a piece of clothing she liked, and she wore it. She DOES NOT need to justify her choices to anyone. People were even having issues with Aima Baig wearing a certain thing on her bare arm on her engagement. People also had issues with outfits at the LSA. The same people had issues with a whole lot of other things. What constructive do they make out of it though? Apna imaan dekhein, do right as per your conscience, rather than preaching others. And, FFS, stop being overly sensitive, esp with trivial things like someone's choice of clothes. The world doesn't give a damn about what sh*t you are sensitive about and would love to trample on you.

[@shahneelmehmood951]

I agree that scene was unnecessary esp in this sensitive time.. And ayeza is so blind that she agreed on doing that scene without any responsibility

[@mahnoorali2944]

I want to ask shehroz what they have been doing in the industry, the kind of dresses they wear, doesn't that count as besharmi.I have never criticised anybody over their personal choices but its plain hypocrisy.

[@zainabaftab8294]

Even the word Majazi Khuda is a big big problem and irritates me a lot how can a Muslim use the word of Khuda for a humman, for a majaz.? While even i heared a fatwa about this : calling husband majazi khuda is not halal , but its quite normal in our society.

[@minsakhan7772]

It's actually...

[@tayyabanajib1604]

No one is saying Ayeza should take responsibility, we are saying what writers are writing , what channel is doing and what is actually PEMRAs function?

[@sabahatmazhar6056]

Except that Ayeza Khan posted that specific scene on her Instagram...

[@SadiaAbbas0511]

@@sabahatmazhar6056 calling it one of her favorite scenes.. Later changed the caption after receiving backlash lol

[@Nas_Raf]

@@SadiaAbbas0511 Sorry to say this, but many of these actors aren’t very bright - I don’t mean that to offend anyone, but they’re borderline clueless and unintelligent. Years ago she commented on the issue between Mohsin Abbas Haider and his wife Fatima - can’t remember the specifics, but her comments showed she lives in some privileged lala land where the man is a protector, and once a nikah is preformed somehow the rishta miraculously becomes one of respect & love. She lives in some bubble, a fairyland - so I would not find it surprising that this was her favorite scene. 🧠

[@akhan6514]

People have been attacking her on twitter and calling to cancel her

[@SadiaAbbas0511]

@@akhan6514 and yet her followers keep growing. People will be people, if they love they'll hate too.

[@mahamsayam2747]

I think interviewers should know the art of asking the correct question to the correct person. If someone does not know a lot about a particular subject then why bring them in the wrong spot light. Sadaf said what she could comprehend from the question while the question to my understanding was different. It was asked generally about women but she kind of gave a personalized answer. People over react to anything they find is incorrect according to their opinions. Acceptance is not there in our society and we just want to burn anyone with a different opinion down. We as a nation need to chill and relax a little.

[@RashidJMir]

But these days one so called liberal group is more extremists then TTP.They try to force people to accept their POV eg ..Iffat Umer

[@RashidJMir]

Shehroz and Sadaf did an interview and they have the right what to say. But here Hassan and Amna judged them of getting fame

[@mahamsayam2747]

I have never come across any one including Iffat Omer forcing any one or imposing their point of views. They are vocal about their opinions and what they think is right or wrong. Human is an epitome of mistakes so they can also sometimes do something wrong, say something which might not be right according to others but that does not mean they are imposing anything. The Liberals group as you call it is vocal about women rights and treatment. This is what most people cannot accept since women are raising their voices in a country where we are taught to keep our mouths shut no matter what is happening to us. Being a women in this society is harder than you think it is. You can not even walk independently on the streets with out the thought of men staring you from all around no matter how covered you are. There is a constant fear what might happen when we go out, we can be kidnapped, raped, harrassed, touched, catcalled, or beheaded. This is the anxiety that every Pakistani women goes through everyday after hearing what is happening around us.

[@mahamsayam2747]

I, a 21 year old not even a celebrity or influencer knows what to say to blow up the internet and get people start talking about me. Celebrities like Sadaf and Shahroz are much older, working in this industry for many years so it is not possible for them to not know what they are saying and start massive debate. However, a comment was made publicly about what women should do and what they should not. It is not a private drawing room chat that no one knew about, it was an interview on a national television channel. This is how a society grows by debating about our point of views and right or wrong. Thus, I don't think there is any judgement here. They clearly stated if Sadaf said what she wants to do it would have been okay but she had a tone which said that every women should be doing this, which is not correct.

[@RashidJMir]

Unfortunately women is not safe in any society so please stop labeling Pakistan please. Good and bads r everywhere but we have the habit of beating our own drums.In this show they mention once Pakistan as dangerous country for women so please go and check the index and compare it with the top listed countries. Unfortunately we are always deing to get Visa of these places

[@howto8919]

I totally agree with Amna on sadaf kanwal and geeti's scene..also thankyou for not discussing khalil ur Rahman..I request you guys to never discuss him. he is an attenstion seeker. his remarks are always extremely disturbing. I think he makes sure to make a remark more disturbing than the previous one. he seems to take it as a life goal.

[@raajig3348]

I totally agree with Amna about Laapata. This territory of false allegation, even as a joke could have been avoided. If this representation of such serious issue ends up invalidating the actual event of harassment of even of a single girl, it is damaging enough in my opinion and in our messed up society, it does have that potential. This is a discussion that has just begun in our misogynistic society and we should refrain from showing anything that can make it even more difficult for the victims to come forward, thinking that there is a possibility of them being called a liar 😢so this perticular scene in Laapata and the whole plot of Dunk was a bad idea that will effect many lives

[@Capricorn197530]

Well said, and DUNK, it started ok and then I thought it was the boring drama I have ever watched.

[@zebunissaismail7068]

Shafique uss scene ka koi maqsad nahi tha, Ayeza Khan ka grey character kisi aur tarah bhi show kar sktay thy.

[@azmeenafatima7863]

Hassan u were looking soo cute while talking abt voice notes...i died laughing!!😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mohammadakhter8614]

What husband & wife do for each other, is their business. Sadaf can lick her husband’s shoes if she wants to, it’s not anybody’s problem, it’s a problem when you make a standard for all women. I have never watched that show but it sounded pretty comical. Hasan & Amna , very interesting discussion. Keep it up.

[@wardaakhtar8375]

1) Sehmat nhi Urdu mai 'Mutafiq' hota hai. 2) Again, I'll quote The Devil Judge ongoing kdrama. There's a female mainstream character Sun-ah which uses her sexual abuse as a blackmail against the culprit to up her status. Now, she's an evil, manipulative person obsessed with becoming privileged and there's a whole back story about her thefts, dubious deaths of family and thinking. You can't implement it on every other women or generalize. It's 'one' person. Similarly for that Lapata scene, it's her character. She's a liar and negative manipulative person. To show in a 100 dramas every female character been casually slapped is different from showing a psychopathic character in one drama. Please, start to differentiate maturely. Pakistani awaam dheet nhi teasing hai. Aap ne dukhti rug khud di tau unho ne chairni thi.

[@samia9482]

Addicted to ur vidoes. Love to see you discussing on all sort of issues. You both are amazing. Lots of love and respect for u guys ❤

[@maani1642]

No wonder why saira jesi so wonderful and graceful women left shehroz jesa insaan jis ki esi pathetic soch hai ke feminism ka kaam behayai phelana hai. What the even hell

[@maani1642]

@@BlueBird-cj6xh hahaha good on your knowledge. Yes it is lgbtq so?

[@farahsqz]

Hahaha Hassan your too funny for actually listening to the whole voice note !!! Great work by both , so enjoyable it is to listen to your views . The dramas actually become more interesting for me when I listen to your views and match them to my views many times I learn something new , a new angle I missed . It just makes watching more enjoyable . I mean your not just sitting and watching aimlessly . Basically we all have become small time critics in our own head thanks to both of you !

[@hamnazahid8191]

I completely agree with Amna's POV on feminism and role reversal. But earnings for the family is primary responsibility of the husband. And obviously it does Not mean that women can't have the responsibility of feeding a family.

[@tehminaali7]

I'll question this for the sake of argument. Where's does it say that earning for the family is the husband's responsibility. These are the norms established by societies that worked 50 years ago. With the changes of roles in today's environment, the old societal concepts that need to be challenged as well.

[@hamnazahid8191]

@@tehminaali7 cultural norms are nothing but a joke. But as far as responsibility of man is linked with feeding the family you can so find references from quran and hadees. Or listen to any authentic scholar. And as I said there is nothing wrong in if woman is a bread earner instead of man due to their compability and understanding.

[@theonewithbrains192]

@@hamnazahid8191 islam ne yeh bhi nahi kaha that a women can't be a bread earner

[@S_Parveen]

Agree with Aamna,regarding that unnecessary scene of lapata,there are 100s of other different ways to establish any positive or negative character…

[@hafsasajid1339]

Amna said it right That sadaf's tone was problematic

[@statesman01]

If you want to please God, please be a good and kind human being and stop judging who is good and bad based on what they wear. Please leave God to be the Divine Judge.

[@ayeshakanwalkhalid6082]

Amna's point of view on sadaf and shehroz was absolutely right especially how shehroz is whitewashing his image using religion card and Hassan you are unaware that our dramas are building this narrative of falsa allegation, there are different dramas especially on ary where they are portraying that a woman is falsely accusing man ( not only in dunk but a couple of other dramas too)

[@abeerhussain7672]

Thanks Amna for being brave enough to say on the spot that where religious connotation in dress comes,one needs to be careful.Kudos to you:)

[@shahneelmehmood951]

Amna is more than celebrity.. The way she speaks, her intellect, her confident I admire personally

[@wanderingexpatinturkey7414]

Uff I am also aminazz big big fan. And at this state of my life I am not easily impressed by people.. she is amazing. She is a role model

[@designedbyfaiza6668]

I think changing nappies backwards is quite common among our husbands 😂

[@shah237]

Oh i hated that scene in lapata and that put me off! Aint watching that!!

[@s.younis1733]

Amna, you said, "I can change diapers better." My question is, don't statements like this form the core of "anti-feminism" stance? I mean these statements are uttered by people who want women to be confined to the house (they argue that women bodies are best created for only a certain set of tasks like cooking, cleaning, rearing children, etc.; hence they should stick to these and not bother about "wordily" affairs). I feel that all women and men (including Amna & Hasan) in Pakistan say they believe in feminism while in reality they are practicing something different in everyday lives. Fun question for Hasan: Who arranges for your meals and makes sure the laundry in your house is done? Its easy to support feminism in a Haute Bite session, but the values we preach, how much of those are we actually practicing?

[@syedaliiqbal3]

Especially about that Laapta scene my take is similar to what Amna mentioned.Whereas Hassan’s point of view also can’t be neglected because you expect from her role to do such things.

[@aakanshasharma9380]

Its funny Hassan that you listened the whole voice notes 😂😂 human nature ki pata hai spoiler hai fir bhi pura voice note suna aapne 😂

[@dur-e-shahwar1271]

I think he also become curious at that time. 😅

[@anamizhar4584]

Exactly I was thinking the same 😂😂

[@SomethingHaute]

Yar because I wanted to somehow be proven wrong that someone would actually do such a thing. So I heard till the end hoping they'd say they were joking or something. It was like I was so shocked that I continued to listen to it in disbelief -- Hassan

[@lafzbalafz6775]

I just read the novel and the drama is Lil bit changed with the start of the episode. Either you know the story before or not, it doesn't matter as the drama has lot more to offer. Outstanding performance by Mahira, Kubra and Usman.

[@lafzbalafz6775]

Still, feel sorry for you Hassan. One should not do that when it was clearly stated. 😐

[@thephoenix11_11]

Culture means way of living life. Her miyan can be her culture 😁 But she can't impose this culture to all women not even muslim women 🙂 I feel pity on those people who compare men and women. Comparison brings the concept of superiority nd inferiority. Love and mutual respect should be our culture 🙂

[@aishasiddiq5710]

Hahahaha 🤣🤣, Hassan ke sath wohi hai jab larkian kehti Hain, secret hai Kisi ko batana Nahi,toh larkian aur zyada batati Hain

[@humerahameed1624]

Time stamp plz? :)

[@insiyazehra5958]

Aamna, I agreed with you on all points today! You explained everything so well! ❤️

[@danianoman2041]

this was such a GREAT CONVERSATION! I really loved hearing you're point of views.

[@sidramemon9394]

Agreed with Hassan’s point of view for laapata scene. Idk why every little scene is taken out of the context.

[@Belavinash]

I may be stepping on many toes but in my opinion by wearing something with a script does not convert you, similarly I listen to Sufi music, qawaali, been to many mazaars , that does not mean that I ditched my faith. By saying this I do not want to hurt any sentiments, if we all can embrace little bit of religious tolerance, this world will be a much better place. ,

[@zb193]

YES AMNA! Thank you for speaking such great words and explaining it eloquently like you always do.

[@aishanoman7898]

I hate the disrespect she has for herself like I love to pick his shoes 😩that’s not her work

[@aymenkazmi7443]

I wish pyaray hasan could just let Amna talk, I love love love her opinions about women and feminist.

[@missysvlog8388]

Yes it's so annoying 😭

[@hotstargaming4938]

Glad to see you both on time👏.. love you both❤️❤️

[@afifakhan5179]

Lapata: In my opinion, that scene actually tells us about Aiza character's how she can manipulate everyone how far she can go. She can use her influence for anything. She can take advantage of any situation. That scene was part of her character.

[@bl3601]

Much awaited! ❤️

[@nimramunir2746]

Hassan's take on ayeza khan's incident is little dissapponting, didn't expect he would say that. totally agree with amna's take.

[@hashhina7324]

Soo right. Didn't expect hasan to say this. I really used to admire him as a man who supported women every time.

[@SomethingHaute]

@@hashhina7324 I still do support women and insha Allah will continue to. But here we are talking about a character in a particular context. -- Hassan

[@AmyP-zn9dz]

I just felt like both Sadaf and Shehroz are trying to appeal to the right Pakistani masses after they got a lot of hate for their marriage.They are just using Islam, unfortunately

[@seemasohail4823]

You've said it!👏

[@yousufrahman3630]

I did not expect someone like Amna to be compelled to apologise what what she decides to wear. It was not a mistake you can wear whatever you like. Why would it hurt anybody's sentiment. This level of entitlement is extremely problematic.

[@WellISaidIt]

Totally agree.

[@bhsdiary99]

So true. Agr ap k kuch wear krny se kisi ka sentiment hurt hota hy to usko khud ap introspection krna chaye. Ar apna dimagh durust krna chahye.

[@saidarav7583]

But awaam shuru ho jati he judge karne 😥

[@missysvlog8388]

Yes

[@nigarfatima1730]

26:52 male and female are not two different species. human being is a type of species.

[@Msid94]

Pyaare Hassan, I usually agree with you but this time I am on Aamna’s side 1) Whatever Sadaf does in her marriage is completely her decision and her right, but she doesn’t need to be condescending about other women wanting freedom in the sense where if they don’t warm their husbands food they end up getting killed or beaten up? If she has the privilege of having house help and family support to achieve her goals as well as be able to take care of Sherry, then she is quite lucky but also needs to acknowledge or at least realise her privilege and not belittle women trying to survive or even breathe. Her husband is trying so hard to stay relevant. 2) Ayeza Khan is an entertainer (and quite an amazing one might I add) and she chooses to stay away from controversies or topics that might get her in trouble, but the LEAST she can do as one of the most famous celebrities in Pakistan with a massive fan following is even if she does a negative role, at least avoid stupid unnecessary scenes- if they wanted to show her character as jhooti chalaak lerki, there were other ways they could’ve done it. As aamna so amazingly said in her argument that this is such a huge movement all over the world and our celebrities and media industry choosing to stay silent is one thing, but adding to the negative is completely unacceptable and people will stand up to it because honestly we’re just exhausted as women. Loved this episode, love how you’re both so open to discussion and accept wherever either one of you slips up. Also Hassan’s frustration over HKKST spoilers gave me such a good laugh 😂

[@tahreemtahir3420]

Amna's point of view is absolutely right.I feel like that she put my thoughts into words.

[@noorhafeez7247]

Amnas POV is completely accurate on Laapata. Hassan doesnt understand because he isnt a woman and he doesnt know how a woman feels when she points a finger to her harasser and people dont believe her. We have clearly established after the Noor Mukadam case that a woman has to get beheaded to get heard. If the same Noor spoke up on Zahirs abuse before her character wouldve been assassinated and half of our population wouldn't have believed her because of how media is now normalizing the 1% women who misuse Me too. Thanks Amna for your well constructed reviews. ♡

[@aishanoman7898]

I love Anna’s point of view on Sadaf kanwals statement kudos u are on the same line like me

[@avanipurohit2272]

Very very pleased with views of both of you.. very balanced, progressive and logical arguments... Love from India ❤️

[@asmahaque8558]

For what it's worth I do think there are some major changes in the drama script. I have seen promos and some of them are v different to what you'd expect from the book! Dw Hasan I think we all still have an element of surprise waiting for us! 👍

[@fantamerry2623]

Which drama

[@Aestheticsandall]

She is talking about Hum kahan k sachay the!

[@ramshayounis14]

I acknowledge this program so much. Specially from last three videos. I like the way you guys address and give your views on sensitive issues, I believe your words bring a lot of change to the thinking of listeners. Wish that not only women but also men should listen to such topics and learn from your thoughts.

[@mamtabhandari3252]

Amna, too the point. You are spot on about conditioning . Bravo!

[@maidahsafdar3561]

I think it is a great innitiative to talk about the lapataa scene! Well done.

[@acekel3778]

Actors are influencers...I Agree with amna. Aiza has massive following and among her massive following there will be girls who make tiktok what if they try to copy her and in same way falsely accuse a man and deny him of his hard earn money? This scene was very unnecessary they could have shown her character in a different way and specially in these times just passing a scene with no context is very irresponsible

[@ZaidNisar]

admin,, chapters for the video bana lien dubara plzz,,, there are few things specifically in the convo which we want to listen.

[@marzsama4068]

I completely agree with Amna's thoughts, Our society has generations of patriarchy and internalized misogyny. The role of a women be it be a daughter, a wife or a mother is set in stone. She is a good women if she does household chores without complaining and a bad or an arrogant women if she doesn't want to do it and stands for majority of our women. Most of the people who try to against the social norms are faced with criticism.

[@misharana2389]

Pyari Amna you are my inspiration. The way you handle criticism🔥 Everyone should learn from you. Huge respect to you❤

[@mehrejaz985]

Loved Amna’s point of view on Lapata, completely disagree with Hassan, thank god for ppl like amna who can call out the wrongs of today’s drama. Also that scene could have been completely avoided , it had so significant contribution to her character arc , given current climate it was v unneeded

[@rose4deals]

I agree with your point of you - the major issue I have with her comment is she being a social figure, her apparent lack of awareness about her audience - I wish she had touched upon the issues of Noor and Annie when asked about feminism instead of making statements like man is above a woman we don’t need her to reinforce this (not Pakistani men and women they heard that growing up) and instead reinforce how feminism should be treating women like humans first - pls watch the couple’s other interviews where she openly claims being at salon twice a week and her husband bringing her a cup of milk first thing every day while she is still in bed, all of which is possible only in a mutually respectful relationship- In our society women are expected to do all this and it’s not by choice, she has that choice- she is not beaten red and blue if she refuses to warm up his food or pickup after him

[@baigabaig]

Hasan is right... its just being hypersensitivity towards ayezas character but her character is supposed to be like tht

[@aimenzafar9985]

Wah aaj to time per video agai😀. Thank you😊😊

[@288amna]

They could have shown Ayeza saying, in that similar tone, to the shopkeeper that I’m making a video and saying that you sell expired food and milawat wali daal. He could’ve said no no and given her the things.

[@nazq6696]

This has indeed been a topic of conversation by us in my friend's group. Great conversation you two!

[@hanafromtunisia]

I completely agree with Amna ... We shouldn't except everything from celebrities. Each n everyone has a different area