Is Steph Curry the GOAT point guard? Stephen A. Smith chimes in

[@mlc7million]

I have Magic Johnson as the best point guard of all time, 5X Champion, 9 Finals appearances, MVP 3X, 9 All NBA 1st teams to Curry’s 4X Champion, 6 finals appearances, 2 MVPs, 4 All NBA 1st team. Curry’s a better scorer than Magic, but Magic is better at everything else. Both are iconic, but Magic is the best PG of all time. And something to consider is that Magic’s career ended abruptly he still had a good 3 to 4 years left to play at a pretty high level.

[@kimtoncoleman8934]

How many championship did Magic win without Kareem?

[@kimtoncoleman8934]

Steph won 2 without K.D...

[@mlc7million]

@@kimtoncoleman8934 Doesn’t matter, what about MVPs, 9 All NBA 1st teams, 9 championship appearances, Magic only played 13 seasons, it’s arguably the greatest run any player has ever had not to mention playing against 3 of greatest teams of all time, Celtics, Philly, and Pistons. Magic has gotten to the finals 69% of the time he played, compared to Curry’s 42%. Curry has played 14 seasons although he has been great no question about that.

[@drchopper7253]

How many chips he win without kareem tho?

[@mlc7million]

@@kimtoncoleman8934 That’s significant, but if Steph is as cold as you say he would have more 1st team All NBAs also, the All NBAs recognizes you as the best player at your position or in the league, Magic did it for nine seasons, Three years as the best player in the league. Steph might be able to get another MVP but he will never catch Magic on first team All NBAs. That says it all right there.

[@therocket280z7]

I don't know how I feel about this exactly. But, one thing SAS fails to mention is that Curry shoots that average while throwing up shots nobody else will even attempt from 3pt. It's easy to love EMJ. He was amazing. I think Curry is too though. People want to make him a shooting guard because he runs around without the ball so much. But, because of how good a shooter he is, it can be considered another way to get teammates open shots. So, he's in there, no matter how you want to slice it...

[@smoothwav]

Well said

[@CrystalJones-ms8it]

facts 💯

[@Shaolin91z]

That championship in college 😆😆😆😆

[@A2DCam]

Titles, MVPs, finals MVPs, individual stats Magic takes all those boxes.. in LESS years

[@am3818]

Magic was a cheat code but his competition was mid. He had at least half a foot and 30 pounds on the average pg of his time. He also had no consistent jumper. He had those accolades big thanks to his teammates. They were already great and needed someone to push the ball and get the right passes in. Right place right time. His team was already stacked. Steph would be great any team any time. Curry>Magic

[@THEREALMOEMONEY]

Imagine curry on them Laker squads ten rings easy

[@marcelmarshall4240]

@@THEREALMOEMONEYCurry could not do what Magic did for those teams…and back in those days people played tough defense. Steph would be broken into tiny pieces. He is too fragile to take that beating.

[@andrewakoji7751]

Everybody forgets that Steph was injured for the earlier part of his career

[@AaronLaZox]

Endurance is a quality not a flaw. Consistency is the key to greatness this man is consistent

[@kickstand801]

Curry is in a league of his own. That's the best way to describe him.

[@Omegamedia313]

U dumb dh he can't even stick defense why do meat riders wake up every morning.

[@DaveyDeluxe]

😂

[@SoggySlopster]

Fr magic doesn’t even compare to him. These old heads I swear 😂

[@caseyledoux1944]

​@@SoggySlopsterread the first comment on the video and stop meat riding

[@Roihclem871]

@@SoggySlopsternah man this isn’t even as close as the mj lebron debate. Magic is definitely the better point gaurd and has more accolades to show it. Curry is the best shooter ever but magic is probably one of the players that change the game like curry and has more to show for while doing it

[@IvIidnight]

While I absolutely agree that Steph is right there with him, if you are going to talk about the impact Magic had on the game, Stephen A., you have to talk about Magic being one half of the rivalry that popularized, some say saved, the NBA.

[@oneshot1824]

If curry is the best pg of all time that means he is a top 5 player of time . If im correct

[@4JaayTv]

Correct

[@aliyamarah7796]

Not necessarily. But in Steph's particular case, yes. What I mean is that the best player at a particular position may not crack the top 5 just because they're the best at their respective position. Example, Tim Duncan. Best power forward ever no debate. Yet he isn't looked at as top 5 ever.

[@Omegamedia313]

​@@aliyamarah7796oh stfu he was up 3 games folded multiple choke jobs in playoffs can't stop anybody on defense but let me know when your done being romantic for your husband.

[@Rooski245]

@@aliyamarah7796thats a terrible example. His accolades absolutely put him in the top 5. I’ve seen plenty of people out him top 5.

[@iBMcFly]

@@Rooski245cause he isn’t even the best point guard lol

[@randolphduke]

Curry: "It's me and Magic." Everyone else: "No. It's just Magic."

[@Capb25]

Speak for yourself, I’m taking Curry. Magic the goat PG but I’m taking Curry at PG for my team.

[@michael922]

​@@Capb25then tell me this would you rather build your team around magic or curry

[@Capb25]

@@michael922 Curry for me. I definitely understand if you or anyone else picks Magic, He’s great but I’m rolling with Steph.

[@dasher920]

7:29 It’s not because of his facilitation of the ball is because of his shooting… Because he’s really a shooting guard

[@dariusisfamous2840]

He’s a point guard

[@garfieldheathcliffe5535]

He's probably the greatest scoring pg. No way he's the greatest sg.😅

[@samsoniteman]

If he were, he'd be listed as a shooting guard

[@Flare8124]

@@garfieldheathcliffe5535 PG's don't really try to shoot all the time so it's an easy road being the best at it lol

[@tennised2283]

A good passer who can shoot; sort of like Chris Mullin, and nearly as good

[@graypliskin]

Magic is miles better than Steph, Magic won at high school level, collage and NBA. He won a championship as a rookie in the NBA while playing all 5 positions in that game and was always a team first player but we all know Magic could ball and score if the team needed it. The way Basketball is played now days has allowed players like Curry to flourish and become superstars, that being said I do feel that Curry is a great point guard who has indeed inspired many and who has changed the game. In the end I think that it would be more accurate to say that Magic is the GOAT point guard of the old era and that Steph is the best of the new era of basketball, but in my opinion, Magic is still way ahead of Steph as a player.

[@tjk9263]

John Stockton is a close 3rd. Stockton and Malone perfected the pick and roll.

[@Audikeeef]

Facts

[@Lee65100]

⁠This is absolute nonsense. To be able to watch the game and say that Magic is miles ahead of Steph is insane, especially if you’re talking about the “better player.” Scoring and shooting along with the benefit of gravity that uproots every defense and makes them vulnerable, is more valuable than “passing” because you get players open via gravity delegating the task of passing to someone else while being a menace to every defense. Logically, it doesn’t make much sense not to choose Steph, with all due respect and admiration to Magic, of course.

[@willjohnwick6911]

You really don’t know basketball by saying magic is miles ahead of curry 🤡

[@Shaolin91z]

That Michigan State title tho. LoL 😂. curry in college?????

[@o.g.teerock1696]

Magic had his all time assist in a game of 24 assist on November 17 1989, while Steph only racked up 16 assists for his all time high December 27 2013......now who y'all think is a better point guard at that position 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@Shaolin91z]

Don't forget that college title 😆

[@A2DCam]

You wanna talk Impact ? Magic created the prototypical point forward 😂😂 magic is the reason why forwards and centers are bringing the ball up, diming like guards. Magic is why the NBA didn’t go under, magic is why modern teams are running and gunning . That’s impact

[@SirGOATT]

How about players today jacking up all these threes? That’s impact too. Steph curry effect

[@willjohnwick6911]

Magic is not the reason modern teams is running and gunning that’s mike dantoni and the suns offense that did 🤡

[@BetweenTheLines3]

Lol magic is not the reason modern terms run and gun. Teams still had 2 bigs on the block in the 2000s until STEPH completely changed the game. Nash and the suns started the wave but steph took it to another level to the point the league had to completely adjust

[@A2DCam]

@@SirGOATT big men bringing the ball up running the offense.. who’s that ?

[@A2DCam]

@@willjohnwick6911 they continued it. But magic fasho made the league faster and the teams after him followed. Rockets, warriors, magic with Shaq, seattle with GP. The league slowed down when the triangle dominated . But that doesn’t mean magic didn’t give the blueprint for running offense, no look passing. Forwards running offense, playing position less. He’s the blueprint

[@eeluaune3449]

Talk that talk Stephen A🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@JohnSmith-tk7nt]

You cant be the goat pg and average 6 assists a game for your career. Hes the goat 3 point shooter, thats all. His style doesnt make others better. You can plug Curry into any team ever and he will help your team but of im looking for a true PG to run the floor and get my scorers into position.... there are probably 10 guys id take over curry

[@igm1201]

If that is your criteria then CP should be having championships instead of curry. So you would rather have Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Stockton over Curry. He makes other people better because of his gravity. Believe me Durant and Curry would not have championships if his model is CP

[@JohnSmith-tk7nt]

@igm1201 Curry was the best scorer on those teams as well. And their team was built around that ridiculous style of catch and shoot 3s. If they had a true 5 and added Durant they would have been LIGHTYEARS better with CP at the 1. I can't find one thing you said that has an ounce of merit, and I sat for a minute and tried

[@deonrichardson5250]

No doubt Curry is in the conversation, but i still give Magic the edge because although Steph Curry is the greatest shooter ever, Magic is the best passer the game has ever seen hands down!!

[@bdukes8075]

He not even in the conversation tbh. How when you think of playmakers you def not thinking about no steph Curry. He a combo guard. I got him 1 and Iverson 2 and Kyrie and Westbrook 3 and 4. If somebody swapped Westbrook and Kyrie I wouldn’t be mad but I like Kyrie better personally

[@chrismiller658]

Dude is NOT in the conversation. Y'all change the rules all the time to help promote y'all favorite players. Bottom line is finals MVPs are a major factor. Its the only reason lebron is greater than Kobe. Kobe has 5 rings. If finals MVPs didn't matter Kobe would be in lebron shoes right now as the second best player ever in most people eyes. Steph has 4 rings and 1 finals MVP. Lost 1 to a bench player. Who does that lol magic is the best point guard ever and that's forever untill someone like Luca starts winning rings

[@joejett5084]

It’s not even an edge, it’s a country mile

[@THEREALMOEMONEY]

Kobe is the second best we don’t listen to espn or lebron stans

[@bdukes8075]

@@chrismiller658 your slow 1 did you even read what I said? Curry is not a point guard just like Iverson was not a point guard even though he played it the beginning of his career and mostly guarded the point guards because he was to small to guard 2 guards. Then you change the point to Kobe and Lebron which your totally wrong. Lebron has more career playoff points, regular season points all on less shots taken and Lebron not being only a scorer, more finals MVPs, More Regular season MVPs. More All NBA’s , a rookie of the year award and Lebron has higher field goal % , More career assists and rebounds as well as higher averages. Lebron also leads the head to head series in games won. So how exactly is Kobe in Lebron shoes when there is all this distance in every stat and NBA accolade 😂 y’all just be saying 💩 People like Kobe’s game better which is fine. I can agree with that but there is no reasoning for saying Kobe and Lebron are close no numbers you want say it. Since Kobe died a lot of rewriting history. But it’s really not that close on career. To me its like steph and Kyrie I like Kyrie game better than steph and Kyrie has outplayed steph but they not even close in terms of accolades or stats so makes no sense saying Kyrie better

[@SiiCkBOyy83]

People who saying curry isn’t in the conversation is crazy. Half of them weren’t even born when magic was playing 😂

[@Shaolin91z]

LoL 😂 finals MVP his rookie year...after winning a college title ☺️

[@SiiCkBOyy83]

@@Shaolin91z ok? all i said was curry is in the conversation

[@Shaolin91z]

No he's not. He should have 3 finals MVP's. Hi Durant.. lol 😂

[@SiiCkBOyy83]

@@Shaolin91z and what has durant done since leaving curry? oh

[@julrob97]

Steph Curry is not really a point guard he’s more of a shooting guard. He just plays the point guard position.

[@luthfeeghazale6206]

fr

[@roshanesasson4137]

If you're creating a team, would you rather have the best passer or shooter ever?

[@KoolSocietyFilms]

Shooter

[@janmartinez-w1q]

im taking Steph, because Lebron will be in the team, he can playmake while Steph is running around like a maniac shooting three's

[@joshdorrance8821]

Steph Curry, MJ, Durant, LeBron, Shaq Good luck.

[@Shaolin91z]

I'll take that point guard that won finals MVP his rookie season after winning a college title ☺️

[@danieldbdb]

Shooter. No brainer. And he creates space for his teammates

[@UnionWorkersNBA2K]

Old School Mentality: “I can’t say I’m the greatest because I never got to play against X, Y, and Z who paved the way and came before me.” New School Mentality: “Well I have to pick myself over everyone in any situation, so yeah.. I’m definitely the GOAT” Look closely at the shift in mentality between generations. Personally, I fall more towards the old school mentality -BX

[@WorldBeater123]

John Stockton was a beast. Old heads know, NBA greats know. And he’s often left out of the discussion by modern analysts

[@wendellhanes1]

Not a beast let’s calm down

[@qceaz11]

​@@wendellhanes1at the PG position yes he was players that don't score can be beasts too

[@bigmanjoe3793]

entry pass merchant

[@Shaolin91z]

He's left out cause he never won. Magic won finals MVP his rookie season after winning a college title ☺️

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Man, the disrespect for Earvin! Steph wasn't even an All-Star until his 5th season! Magic won 2 rings and 2 Finals MVPs in his first 5 years. Stop smoking that weed, SAS.

[@microvizart]

But Curry still hoopin in his 15th season, but Magic already stops playing in his 13th season. So your point is?

[@uwomawokocha]

He was mostly hurt, or in recovery from an injury. Magic had a better roaster by a thousand miles!

[@microvizart]

Also dont forget the moment Magic entered NBA, his teammate is freakin Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Who did Curry have?

[@Shaolin91z]

Curry is so great he ran and got KD after losing with the best record ever😆

[@Porterhouse601]

Both are unicorns at the position. We will never see a 6'9" Magic that sees the floor like the matrix. We will never see another shooter like Steph (not even Dame) that bends the court like the matrix. 2 different styles...same box office attraction

[@anthonypierre2094]

Steven A. I agree with you. Many are missing your point. You clearly said not looking at the accolades yet every other comment ppl talking about the accolades 🙄. Looking at the two players I agree that what Curry brings to the game with his shooting, scoring, movement without the ball, handles, ability to get to the basket and passing. At this point he might have the edge over Magic because he can do things that Magic can't and there isn't much more impactful things Magic can do that Curry can't.

[@josegrullon024]

Magic is still the goat for me. I'll take better passing and better defense over shooting. Magic was just a magical basketball player to watch.

[@nory7684]

Defense?? Magic had no defense bro!!

[@markkaasha2111]

Never won without Jabber

[@josegrullon024]

@@nory7684 yet he was the starting center in the NBA finals as a rookie. Are you saying Steph is better than magic defensively? I am hoping your not going out like that

[@josegrullon024]

@@markkaasha2111 Steph hasn't won without Draymond or Thompson. Steph has been on team steroids compared to Magic.

[@Jonesey76F]

@@josegrullon024bruh did you not see the teams Magic played on?? He played with stacked teams. Stop that narrative right now.

[@ACelloFella]

It comes down to how you look at the point guard position. In my opinion, the value of a point guard is being a playmaker and making teammates better. Magic is the best of that. If you list the top 10 best pgs,. Curry is the only one to never have lead the league in assists. He's definitely different.

[@earlnevanTV]

Magic winning finals rookie year playing center....without Kareem is the craziest thing any NBA player could of achieved frfr

[@Be_a_Pineapple]

Respect for playing that clip unaltered

[@cousinchris5851]

Somehow Steph will not receive anywhere near the amount of hate that LeBron got when he declared he was the G.O.A.T

[@Lee65100]

That’s because Steph was asked a question. And right after he gave Magic his flowers and said it’s a tall task to be compared to magic. It wasn’t an unsolicited declaration. Those two things are very different.

[@Shaolin91z]

LeBron still has a losing record in the finals in year 21. LoL 😂 Didn't Kareem win 4 titles in college 😆

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Career Résumé…Total Achievements: (Titles, MVPs, Finals MVPs, 1st All-NBA, 1st All-DEF) 1) Jordan = 36 2) LeBron = 30 3) Kareem = 29 4) Kobe = 28 4) Duncan = 28 6) Magic = 20 … To put things into perspective, Stephen Curry only has 11…he’s not even close to the great ones. … NBA Titles: Magic = 5 Curry = 4 … MVPs: Magic = 3 Curry = 2 … Finals MVP: Magic = 3 Curry = 1 … All-NBA 1st Team: Magic = 9 Curry = 4 … NBA Assist Titles: Magic = 4 Curry = 0 … Career triple doubles Magic = 138 Curry = 10 … Curry is not a true point guard. You have to be a facilitator of the team in order to be a point guard. He is more of a shooting guard. Even Curry himself admitted in an interview that Draymond Green is more of a point guard than him. LeBron James and Draymond Green are better facilitators than Stephen Curry. Magic will always be the greatest point guard of all time. Case closed.

[@claytontuwan513]

Magic never had to be taken off the floor because he couldn't play defense. Bigger the better.

[@limog3190]

Steven A you hit it on point when you referenced the dejected look of the defenders before the ball even goes in! THAT shit iz the TELL!!! #SPEAK

[@leramfreeman2950]

What does that have to do with anything? SMH

[@limog3190]

@@leramfreeman2950 It’s a testament to the lethality of Steph’s offensive proficiency. Watch the game not the player. You’ll see the “Curry effect”.

[@limog3190]

When his off ball movement literally breaks the spirit of defenders it’s really something to see. And Stephen A is not exaggerating in any way. It has EVERYTHING to do w/EVERYTHING!

[@leramfreeman2950]

@@limog3190 Absolutely has nothing to do with being the best point guard! SMH

[@limog3190]

@@leramfreeman2950 First of all Magic Johnson is head and shoulders above anyone else as the greatest point guard ever. I was just affirming S.A. Smith’s assertion that there’s a palpable lethality that Chef brings- Im sure he just cooked ur entire favorite team😂

[@iRepNGR]

And for those saying Curry isn't a true point guard, I'll have you know point guard isn't about assists... "Point guards are expected to run the team's offense by controlling the ball and making sure that it gets to the right player at the right time. Above all, the point guard must understand and accept their coach's game plan, They must also be able to adapt to what the defense is allowing and must control the pace of the game." I'll argue Curry does this extremely well, he runs the teams offense and is the teams offense, he exploits the opp defense so much so that his presence puts them in constant danger.

[@donwilliamson3111]

That ain't him more team facilitating than him

[@iRepNGR]

@@donwilliamson3111 the data will show you that it is him... Just look at the differential when he is out.

[@Shaolin91z]

Who won a college title and finals MVP his rookie season??

[@iRepNGR]

@@Shaolin91z about that rookie MVP... That's a one game MVP because Kareem got injured and he scored 42 to help clinch the title, but even in that game Jamal Wilkes dropped 37... Kareem carried that team the entire playoffs

[@Shaolin91z]

@@iRepNGR about that....what's officially in the record books. Fmvp his rookie season....and 2 more times🤟

[@BoskoShabazz]

2 completely different styles of play. Magic accomplished more in a shorter amount of time and beat better players.

[@thereasonwhy5188]

Fact

[@trips963]

What players? N he had the best team in the league while having someone that was better than him on his team. If Steph had Kd for 8+ years they’d have 5+ rings.

[@cursin]

Name the better players of his era that he beat stop chattin

[@tamukachinyadza1095]

Who did he beat without Kareem? With Kareem, it was Dr J, Larry and Isaiah. Any other top 10 player is getting at least 4 with a top 3 player of all time tbh, regardless of the era.

[@julrob97]

@@cursinEver heard of Larry Bird?

[@Los150]

Curry is a point guard in title only. He’s a 2 playing 1. And let’s not pretend Draymond doesn’t orchestrate that offense more than anyone else. 60% of Curry’s game is running around screens like Reggie Miller looking to get open. That’s 2-guard behavior. He’s the greatest shooter ever. That’s not up for debate anymore. But Magic is still the PG goat.

[@larryguimond7288]

Curry should be in the conversation of the greatest of all time, not just guard goat.

[@ELeeOfficial]

Facts

[@Shaolin91z]

No he shouldn't. Where are his other 2 finals MVP's. LoL 😂 Hi Durant

[@andysauro1500]

These GOAT position conversations should really be broken into a different 5 categories: Fascilitator Shooter Scorer Post scorer Glue Guy The Goats at each are Lebron, Steph, MJ, Kareem and Bill Russell.

[@JR_JR]

Fix your audio on the channel please. The volume is already maxed out but still barely audible.

[@otr6003]

i thought it was only me

[@oneshot1824]

Get a new phone

[@otr6003]

😂😂😂 on phone the audio is fine it's just on Pc

[@lennybeason1110]

Nate Tiny Archibald led the league in scoring and assists in the same year! He’s as good as Steph or better as far as peak performance. 34ppg and 11 assists per game in the same season!

[@mrnyc.]

You want to change they height lol

[@samsoniteman]

Trae Young led the league the in points and assists in 2022. Guess that means "he's as good or better as far as peak performance" too lol.

[@sportsactuary8574]

Wilt wasn't impressed with Tiny. Wilt said that Norm Van Lear, who played with Tiny, was better.

[@Lee65100]

This has got to be a joke. Steph and Tiny shouldn’t even be in the same sentence. Although, all due respect to Tiny.

[@lennybeason1110]

@@Lee65100 Tiny is a true pg who could score but didn’t have to to control a game. Steph is a shooting guard who can play make but he’s not a true pg that’s why the offense is run through Draymond. Curry is like AI. He’s a shooting guard!

[@SuleimanB_]

Curry only does one thing better than Magic. Shooting. Curry is a shooting guard.

[@jhustle5001]

Magic is the greatest PG ever, Steph Is the greatest player to play PG.

[@Keepit_100]

IM SUPRIZED NOBODY IS CRUSHIN STEPH CURRY FOR CLAIMING THIS.. YALL USUALLY SAY PLAYERS NEVER SAY THINGS LIKE THIS THATS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE OTHER GREATS 🧐🤔

[@lesterkdmedia]

both are GREAT, but Steph is a great THREAT with or without the ball.

[@Shaolin91z]

He had the ball in college and didn't win a title. LoL 😂. Finals MVP his rookie season. Michigan State title as well. ☺️

[@lesterkdmedia]

HAD @@Shaolin91z what about now?😃 who changed the game? also, if you watch interviews who guarded Steph, they will all agree that he is dangerous with or without the ball.

[@michaelshan22]

I think this debate depends a lot on the aspects you value most in greatness. Magic Johnson blows Steph Curry out of the water when it comes to both personal and team achievements, and he did it in less time. But at his peak I’d say without a doubt that Curry was the more impactful player to his team, and if I were to ask myself who I’d pick over the other on my basketball team, I’d take Steph.

[@vernonherb]

Why.. Steph is good as an ensemble... Magic actrually makes you a contender because he will increase the other subpar teammates stats up he made elden camble look good and Divac look better than he ever did... Steph is great no doubt but Magic is by a mile the more superior player

[@michaelshan22]

@@vernonherb The Golden State Warriors dynasty started through Stephen Curry and will probably end through it as well. Their style of play is completely built around Steph's ability to space the floor with his otherworldly 3-point shooting and constantly calculating movement off the ball. Although it may not be as directly shown through stats as they don't count as "assists", the space that Steph opens up for teammates through his gravity absolutely makes teammates better and instills fear in the opposing team from the perimeter. I'd say his impact towards making subpar teammates better is arguably just as large as Magic's, just look at his Finals run last year where he helped to elevate the play of teammates like Andrew Wiggins and Otto Porter Jr. His impact on the game is clearly shown through the Warrior's offensive numbers with him on the court vs off it, it's like they're completely lost without him.

[@Shaolin91z]

Steph is so great he had to run and get KD after LeBron beat him🤣

[@Capb25]

@@Shaolin91zDidn’t Lebron have to run to Dwade and Bosh in Miami

[@kokenkeer99]

In Asia Stephen curry is bigger than every nba players bruh

[@DurdyRo.504]

Give Stephen Curry his flowers

[@Travis-1432]

Not only Curry is the Best pg.. but he’s on a tier on his own

[@thereasonwhy5188]

Bull

[@kokenkeer99]

Hell yeah Stephen curry is the best pg ever

[@princellasmith7562]

I absolutely love Steph Curry for who he is on and off the court as far as we can see, but Magic Johnson is the greatest point guard in the history of the NBA. Magic won a championship during his rookie season where he had to play all five positions because Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was hurt, and he did it in that era of more physicality. Steph Curry plays in this no hand-check era, and it is more difficult to be physical with him like they were with shooters back then. Magic truly did no look passes. What they call no look passes now are not really no look passes. Magic literally was not looking in the direction of the person at all, and he made a perfect pass. It was INSANE--especially at his size--that he could move the way he moved and was his effective as he was. It's Magic Johnson all day. That's not to take away from Steph Curry at all, but it's a Magic Johnson all day.

[@iTuber012]

1 Magic 2 Thomas 3 Oscar 4 Curry If he doesn't get HIV, Magic would be legitimately in GOAT discussions

[@willjohnwick6911]

Stop it magic wasn’t winning nomore rings or beating jorgoat in the finals 😅

[@iTuber012]

​@@willjohnwick6911probably not but he'd be number 1 all time in assist and probably more finals appearances

[@MaxPowerSJC]

RAISE THE VOLUME OF YOUR VIDEOS

[@bgood2lifealways36]

Magic Johnson along with Larry Bird in the NBA, Mark Mcguire and Sammy Sosa in Major League Baseball and Joe Namath in the NFL are in rare company and could be looked at as the players,who made the most impact for their perspective league as they play today. Just a Real Talkie Talk opinion on what the above players contributed to making their leagues must watch television.

[@dhaynes325]

I am leaning Magic overall. Curry is number 2. Curry is a better shooter but Magic is an excellent leader, impactful by setting up others and he can play multiple positions if needed. Curry is a dawg and love watching him play (BTW I am a Laker fan but I am unbiased)

[@k-way8471]

I definitely agree with everything you said I take magic maybe because my lakers bias but curry is definitely #2 in my book and he curry is definitely top 10 all time

[@MMS-hn5ux]

Man, people just ignore real history. One example of many: Steph was top-3 in MVP only three times (‘15, ‘16, ‘21). Magic was top-3 nine straight years (‘83-‘91) before the HIV retirement. That’s true dominance.

[@KingDavidDGM]

And name five other top 10 point guards from the '80s

[@KingDavidDGM]

When you name those other five top point guards compare them to the people Steph Curry is playing against Steph Curry is playing against a league that's full of players that are top talent It wasn't the same in the '80s

[@Shaolin91z]

Finals MVP his rookie season after winning a college title 🤟

[@TheFilmSpace1]

Magic obviously. His resume is one of the best ever

[@JasonAlmighty]

Players should be ranked by their position not their specialty. If you were to rank players by specialty there would be a lot more player in the discussion for that specific specialty, making the talent pool less and less.

[@manofaith75]

Last season Stephen A said if Curry beats Lebron in the semi-conference finals, not the NBA finals, the semi-finals, a legitimate argument could be made that Steph is better than LeBron. He then disrespects a legend in Magic, someone he claimed to be his guy, suggesting Curry has surpassed him as the GOAT of point guards. Not only does he not have facts to back up his blasphemy, but Stephen A has bragged about his relationship with Magic, which goes way back. Whatever so-called relationship he has with Steph pales in comparison. That's loyalty for you. Let me tell you what's going on here; the dude has long been infatuated by Curry, literally jacking off on his jump shot. He values shooting more than he does passing and defense. Even Stephen A, in so many words, has admitted that. When it comes to his baby Steph he refuses to be objective.

[@TwanVRr39O]

Love curry but, the “pg” was meant to pass the ball and be the floor general, he can do it. Magic just did it on an entirely different level. Curry changed the game like Shaq did but magic is the greatest point guard ever.

[@alonreid]

We’ve never seen Steph facilitate an offense or be the “quintessential PG” so how can we say he’s the greatest when he hasn’t done anything PG like in his career. Steph is a SG masquerading as a PG.

[@willjohnwick6911]

He actually was the facilitating the offense as the quintessential PG in 2013-14/2014-15 under mark Jackson he averaged 24/8.5 assists and 24/8 assists so it shows you don’t know basketball 🤡

[@antoniouy9704]

I also forgot to mention bob mcadoo..a former mvp, a top 75 all time, and a three time scoring champion..and mychal thompson, a rookie of the year?

[@astronewton1995]

Honestly it hard to choose but one thing I know is that steph is definitely second. The only reason people confuse by the topic is because steph is more of scorer but his three point attention he gets from defense space the floor for his whole team so by definition he plays his role as point guard and he will pass you the ball which I love about him.

[@xionxxx3359]

No he's not definitely second, if you go by accolades Russell Westbrook actually beats Steph in every category except championships. Kyrie Irving is just as skilled as Steph and hit a shot to win a championship over Steph. Magic Johnson is the best point guard ever and it's not even close.

[@Shaolin91z]

Finals MVP his rookie season after winning a college title...not curry😆

[@Rhys1979]

@@xionxxx3359russ and irving ain’t no where near curry’s level

[@Nerdy714]

Steph is the GOAT of the PJ position

[@qbqb99]

Defense matters

[@Aimpeccable]

Curry won championship with ANDREW WIGGINS as the 2nd best player and draymond green as a CENTER. Magic won his championships with Kareem and Worthy. Magic Johnson would never won a championship playing with Draymond and McGeee as a 4-5. Curry is the greatest shooter and ALSO TOP 3 handles ever.

[@Bray1Jay]

He's not clear cut. He's hell on wheels. A straight menace and deadly from anywhere on the court. But he IS absolutely worthy to be in the discussion of the GOAT PG. Right up there with Magic and Zeke. Is he the best PG in the game today? Absolutely 100%.

[@Shaolin91z]

Zeke and Magic won titles in college. LoL 😂 Curry?

[@Bray1Jay]

@shaolinsoldier1762 nobody gives a shit about college. We're talking about professionally. He didn't win a chip in college, but he won 4 in the pros against the best players in the world. How does him not having a championship in college even factor into any of this? This is a discussion about him as a point guard and he has consistantly been a primary factor in every championship Golden State has ever won, along with his shooting efficiency and ability to make plays. I didn't say he was the definitive greatest pg ever. I don't belive he is. But he is absolutely worthy to be in the discussion among the greatest pgs ever.

[@Shaolin91z]

If he was that great he'd have 3 finals MVP'S. LoL 😂 College does count. Lol. Kareem has 4 college title... LeBron? Bron in year 21 still has a losing record in the finals 😆

[@Sirmax17]

All the way from Kenya 🇰🇪. Steph curry is the greatest point guard in the NBA history and he ain't done yet watch this space guys 💯

[@pep2st8p64]

Magic won 5 chips in his first 9 seasons...

[@hayskig1226]

Yah by himself with no help.

[@hayskig1226]

@thialhoinj1971Curry only player with unanimous MVP, Steph is different.

[@Travis-1432]

Curry had better competition. Curry impact on the game.. terrifies any Defense.

[@SamuelMills-ez4jo]

​@@hayskig1226shut up lol, when mj didn't win unanimous you know its bs.

[@pep2st8p64]

@@hayskig1226 only 1 finals MVP with 2 regular season MVPs...Magic has 3 regular season MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs.

[@ayoonine]

all these kids want to do is shoot 3s. He is relatable. the smaller guy who works on his game can succeed

[@mrbigrzl]

How did the discussion warrant a debate when this dude just won his first finals MVP

[@willjohnwick6911]

Your mixing up accolades with who’s better. Curry is a better basketball player magic is a greater alltime basketball player so you get it now?

[@mrbigrzl]

@@willjohnwick6911 no. Curry is better at shooting. That’s it.

[@willjohnwick6911]

@@mrbigrzl curry is a better finisher better handles better playmaker better scorer curry is better than magic at basketball simple

[@marrynarravito5873]

Are we forgetting that Magic’s career was cut short?

[@jamareycarter5550]

By this Logic, there's no debate for Lebron being the GOAT b/c Jordan took years off.

[@Shaolin91z]

In year 21 Bron still has a losing record in the finals 🤪

[@d-p_]

We gonna see you, SAS, on Gil's Arena? That's be great!

[@qbqb99]

Oscar was a beast too

[@elhadjndiaye8031]

Stephen A is in the moment again 😂😅 Magic the 🐐.

[@RnBLegacies]

Steph curry is the moment band has been since 2015

[@danieldbdb]

Steph's off-ball impact is the highest in the league, and that is measurable by advanced stats. So he generates more points for his teammates than his box score assists show out.

[@aliyamarah7796]

Winning 5 rings in the 80s is like winning 10 straight in the current era 🤣

[@tonydegante7449]

🧢

[@4JaayTv]

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[@aliyamarah7796]

maybe disprove my point instead of spamming emojis like a 9 year old.

[@4JaayTv]

This current era of basketball is arguably the most competitive/talented it’s ever been. No way

[@aliyamarah7796]

@@4JaayTv this is also the only era where the don't call travels or carries, players flop, and there's no hand checking. Last season had the most 50 point games ever! It's not the players as much as it is the negligence of actual rule enforcement.

[@qbqb99]

Isaiah beat Jordan bird and magic and LeBron at point is a cheat code

[@gappie3]

Magic much better as a whole. Not even a discussion. Better passer, rebounding, same probably in points, just avg on everything going down due to his last few years (was not supposed to be playing). Magic is prime Magic since day one, a true prodigy of the sport.

[@darth_uchiha8853]

Thank you Stephen a smith

[@nobody_like_n8]

If Steph was so “Impactful “ why didn’t he win finals mvp 2015?? All that shooting and iggy had way more of a impact on that series bcuz of the defense he played. Iggy put up decent numbers too! Being the best shooter of all time doesn’t always translate to impacting the game

[@iBMcFly]

Magic is the best point guard. End of story on that front. Steph’s the best shooter ever though. EDIT-Magic had what 5 less PPG(and that’s with Steph shooting a million 3s a season), but Magic had more assists per game, more rebounds per game, more steals per game, more blocks per game, he played defense better, he was better at making the players around him better. Nothing wrong with asking the question if Steph is the best PG, just like there is nothing wrong with the answer being NO.

[@epo3gaming001]

Magic is also 6’9 so defense comes a little easier.

[@iBMcFly]

@@epo3gaming001 6’9” with a handle and lateral quickness…I don’t see many 6’9” boys out here guarding quick and agile 6’2”-6’5” point guards like magic was able to. In one way his size made it easier, but in another way it made it harder.

[@RnBLegacies]

Stephen A is real one! Forget what these casuals talkin bout

[@kyleparker2821]

John Stockton should be considered if were talking PURE point guard

[@jonathanchen1026]

Lebron: I’m the best PG ever!

[@solohere5608]

Curry will become the undisputed best after he gets his 5th ring this year.

[@shawnturner5520]

Where it gets tricky at finals MVPs and magic can guard all 5 positions

[@J8te]

If you were to draft a pg for your team in 2023, who would you pick? I’d pick Wardell for sure 😤

[@MrMan-sq7hp]

Magic was finals MVP as a rookie. Case closed.

[@willjohnwick6911]

Magic loss 4x times ina finals 🤔

[@Greatone765]

No one takes into consideration that if Magic played now with the lane wide open he would average more points and more assist. Not to mention more rebounds too with all the extra possessions and misses. Also if Steph was playing in Magic Era with the physicality and hand checking his stats would actually diminish. So i would have to go with Magic on this on.

[@willjohnwick6911]

Stop it magic can’t shoot he would be a liability in todays league

[@Greatone765]

@@willjohnwick6911 see this is the problem with casuals. U go off what u hear and look up stats. First off Magic can shoot he just chose to pass first and the NBA wasn’t jacking 3’s at that time like they do now. Magic first 9 seasons average under 1 3p attempted per game. His last 4 seasons he started shooting more 3’s averaging about 3 shots attempted from And he shot 34% from the arc. He is also a career 85% FT shooter. Magic would dominate todays game no question.

[@willjohnwick6911]

@@Greatone765 stop it he would not be the same magic Johnson of the 80s he would still be great but these new guys are more way more athletic than magic era and he shoot 30%3pt that’s Westbrook numbers he would be a great passer but his scoring will go down cuz he not a great finisher casual

[@Greatone765]

@@willjohnwick6911 I can tell u a youngin. So cause U think players are more athletic that makes them better. That’s a fools statement. 2 of the most dominant players today are non athletic. Luka and Jokic. And Jokic just won the chip. Goh with that bull. And like I said Magic first 9 seasons he averaged under 1 3p attempt per game. His last 4 seasons he averaged 3 and shot 34%. U don’t know basketball youngin. U a casual.

[@willjohnwick6911]

@@Greatone765 when did i say being more athletic makes them better stop putting words in my mouth. Your a casual for saying curry wouldn’t dominate the 80s cuz they was more physical that’s absolute blasphemous when zeke was dominate in the 80s being smaller than and worse than curry your the true casual that don’t wanna let go of the past players and accept the new era is better simple 🤡

[@sinematicvisuals]

You can say Magic is the best but yall do know Steph is still playing right? Its easy to say Magic even though he couldnt win without Kareem and Steph has the best chance to surpassing him when its all said and done. Dude is a legit black hole on the court. Best Shooter, better handle, unanimous Mvp, also proved he could win without Durant. Everyone who is defending Magic in these comments is in their right but its the fact steph is in consideration at a time like this in his career. If he's knocking at the top 10 all time then that alone warrants a discussion & eventually he'll surpass him. Most of you misunderstood SAS point.

[@Thunder-Raw-am]

Magic Johnson. The man gets the entire team involved with unselfish game play. He has sight beyond sight with the basketball no look passing. And could still give you over 25 points plus a few rebounds and crazy assist. No one has ever plaid identical like Magic. We got to see Kobe play like Jordan but thats another conversation. Magic is the greatest in that position. Steph is the best shooter from long range that i ever seen! But he does not haz that showtime fast break dazzling play making creator gift like Magic. And I yet to see Steph have the sight beyond sight with passing abilities like Magic. If your from the 80's you know exactly what im saying. Showtime baby. (I like Steph too).

[@topdawggaming]

Magic is the goat “Point Guard” Curry is the goat to play/be listed at the PG position

[@randm4246]

Magical Johnson's resume is better and his career was cut short after 12 years. Steph's played 14 years and is still adding to his. I think if Magic kept playing it wouldn't be even close. Magic > Steph.

[@jonathanmendosa9023]

Magic was 6’9, I want to see magic be 6’3 and still do what he did. Being 6’9 is a HUGE advantage.

[@thiernobah6453]

And I want to see Michael Jordan be 6’1 and Shaquille O’Neal be 6’4…🙃

[@jonathanl8159]

How many 6'9" PGs are in the league today and have accomplished what Magic did?

[@willjohnwick6911]

@@jonathanl8159 luka is 6’7 point guard and dominating more than magic when you compare there first 5 seasons and magic was playing against 6’3 Pgs he had a big advantage 🤡

[@Shaolin91z]

I'd like to see curry win a title in college 😆

[@willjohnwick6911]

@@Shaolin91z i mean if he went to a top level college he would’ve won a title in college. I would’ve liked to see magic win a championship without Kareem but he choked twice 🤔😅

[@SkanDigital]

Steph is a Shooting Guard! Magic is a Point Guard!

[@byronsanders8562]

Steven A for what you are saying points guard Steph is a totally different point guard he is a scoring points guard at the HIGHEST LEVELS

[@blackjesus6433]

Magic had tougher competition. Bird, MJ, Hakeem, Isiah, Dr. J, Moses, Clyde, etc. 🙏🏾

[@RockerxRealms]

Curry took 3 chips off LeBron. Just stop.

[@trell439]

@@RockerxRealms2 of them with KD and one with an injured kyrie and kevin love. Just say you don’t watch basketball and move on lmfao

[@RockerxRealms]

​​​@@trell439Magic had Kareem and Worthy. Just say you don't watch basketball and move on 😂

[@trell439]

@@RockerxRealms doesn’t compare to the best team ever assembled try again 😂 no one in the history of basketball is beating the warriors with KD. You have no clue what you’re going on about

[@RockerxRealms]

@@trell439 haha has KD won since? Pretty sure Curry got one after, so who is making who great? You keep losing bro. Magic is amazing but he didn't change the game like Curry. No where close. Imagine passing the ball to Kareem your entire career 😂

[@begcoins]

Hilarious he says that with his new teammate coming to town.

[@iRepNGR]

First off, can we acknowledge that Curry had a finals MVP stolen from him. Ok so now we are looking at 3FMVP to. 2FMVP, 3MVP to 2MVP (one unanimous≈2MVP) so that's really 3MVP to 3MVP, 5 Rings to 4 Rings, 10 All NBA to 9 All NBA. One of these guys had 2 top 75 players (and Pat Riley) for all his rings from day one, the other had no top 75 player for 2 of his rings and started his career on a borderline lottery team. One of these guys was 6'9 215lbs and came into the league as a SG, the other is a 6'3 185lbs PG... Yeah I say the conversation is very legit

[@kmartin2020]

Something is wrong with the volume level on this video. I've watched this video on 3 devices and it seems too low. Which is ironic cause normally you're screaming lol.

[@phatswag100]

Curry has a better defensive ratings better shooter 3's free from throws magic is a better passer rebounder might be more clutch maybe

[@Westlyn80]

Stephen is describing a scorer vs a pg. Magic avg 11.5 assist per game vs stephs 5.6 ast per gm. Mike n kobe avg 5 plus ast per game. Steph has the 3s and magic has the rest. It's magic !!!!

[@bdukes8075]

Exactly Steph is a combo guard. Best shooter ever but avg point guard. 6.5 career assists not gonna get you to the top 5 of point guards it’s just not gonna happen

[@Shaolin91z]

Finals MVP his rookie year after winning a college title. Curry in college?????

[@sbungabanqh9348]

I see the Chef as a 2 guard… Dray-Dray has the ball in this hands a lot more to give the PG credit all to the Chef. It’s like saying someone is the best center of all time cause they shoot better than all centers. That’s not the primary role for that position. 6:09 here we go… shooting guard.