Is the 2022 Subaru BRZ a BETTER sports car to BUY than a Toyota GR 86?

[@mattmekhaeil]

These cars are so much fun to drive. Good job to Toyota and Subaru on this joint venture and thanks to both of them for giving us a manual as well. They still know how to make enthusiasts happy

[@RaitisRides]

I totally agree with you!

[@cwx8]

Honestly would rather see a Toyota turbo motor in here if it doesn't mess with the balance. The way the h4 makes power is jarring and not very sporty

[@ericB3444]

Girls car

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

@@cwx8 You're asking for too much for them to make a brand new engine when the GR Corolla is going to be a thing

[@salmonjerky]

Joe's smiles and laughs are so genuine and contagious, I love it! I can't help but smile and feel like I'm really riding along with him in the car. Keep up the good work!

[@RaitisRides]

That really means the world! I love sharing my car passion with you!

[@brandonurban9537]

I bought this exact spec about 3 months ago. Added an exhaust. It is by far the best car I have ever owned.

[@On2thakneppz1]

Compared to…

[@LS1007]

No doubt both are fun cars. In my experience driving a small car feels like you’re going faster than you really are. Thanks for the ride Joe. Nice job you and Lori!! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸

[@RaitisRides]

You are so very right Larry! Thanks for taking the ride with us!

[@wyattgrigor1995]

I use to have a GMC 2500HD pickup and when I'd jump in my girlfriends Acura RSX, I couldn't stop smiling haha it felt like I was in a go kart in the city and that was just a stock RSX, can't imagine how fun these must be! Can't wait to get the opportunity/time to drive one 🤘🏻

[@TeXasDadBod]

I liked that the price tag on Scion that you saw on the window sticker was tax and everything included and not a penny more . So what you saw is what you payed no haggling no staying at the dealership 5 plus hours just straight forward . I wish all cars where sold this way . Yes I know that this is Subaru but just wanted to mention that .

[@djomanchester]

I have MX5 2lt. The BRZ has always been a temptress and my fav out of the two BRZ / GR86, the BRZ I like being more understated. Would have to be in manual for me. Only down side here in the UK we're not getting the 22 BRZ 😕 I'm glad to see lighter materials used in cockpit as can be a bit dark. A sun roof would be great but you'd lose ridgidicity (is that a word?). Great review. This car give miles of smiles. Nicccce! Shout out to you both Joe and Lori 👍

[@richardledesma1675]

I believe the word is rigidity but yeah man a small sunroof would be a cherry on top not a giant one that softens the rigidity and stiffness of the upper body ! I hope you guys are able to import them asap from other parts of the world they’re sick

[@Reaperguy67]

I like this car. It does look good in that red.

[@RaitisRides]

It really pops a lot.

[@Reaperguy67]

@@RaitisRides I argree with you

[@R1Armadill0]

The red is pretty damn amazing! Can we just get one in each color!?!! ahahaaa!

[@Reaperguy67]

@@R1Armadill0 lol. That whould be alot of money

[@mclarenspeedtail8988]

Honestly both gr86/brz are great cars. i can't wait to see the future of these cars

[@RaitisRides]

They will be electric for sure.

[@R1Armadill0]

@@RaitisRides Disturbing as it is, you're prolly right. 2018 STi here, and I have always loved the BRZ! I don't need one... I WANT ONE!

[@Nigel__]

@@RaitisRides Which hurts my feelings lol.

[@badboy-gn8fu]

@@RaitisRides please God no

[@midnightquest9758]

I get mine on Monday , can’t wait !!!!

[@bryanme5771]

That's exciting! Congrats and enjoy!

[@midnightquest9758]

@@bryanme5771 hey thanks !! I’m super stoked

[@AmiKochlany5906]

The new redesigned 2022 Subaru BRZ is awesome especially in the RED color.Such a fun car to drive!!! Excellent car review,. Thank you so much Joe and Lori 💪🙏

[@eliv8468]

Hopefully the GR Corolla takes attention away from this car so I can get one. This car reminds me of my 240SX hatch.

[@SaintMecha]

It won't. Toyota just said they want GR Corolla to be limited. It WILL be freaking expensive and very limited just like the GR Yaris. Getting GR86 and BRZ will be easier when the chip shortage ends.

[@aeronYTco]

I believe it’s hard to compare the GR Corolla to a GR 86. Both serve different audience. But you can’t go wrong with either.

[@SaintMecha]

@@aeronYTco toyota will only make 6600 GR Corolla. And they'll be expensive AF. So the GR Corolla target is not the economy fun market. People should realize that.

[@eliv8468]

They’ll build 6500 for the first year. Im thinking they come out with special editions every couple years to keep people’s interest. Im just looking for a fun daily, so I was being hopeful. I might wait for the new Miata to make a decision.

[@fwj0n_]

corolla 💀💀 not surprised you’d say that

[@lash9400]

I’m so excited about this car. Well done Subaru and Toyota. This is so refreshing from the usual crossover/SUVs. I love 2 door coupes/sports car and always had one.

[@LibraUnleashed]

with you standing next to it, it looks like a match car lol

[@frankpavan7865]

Great review !! I really love this car . Really made for driving enthusiasts. When on throttle it sound so amazing !!

[@RaitisRides]

I am glad that you really are digging this BRZ Frank!

[@cort5503]

People who look down their noses at the AT in this car, haven't actually tried it. With the paddle shifters, it's seriously underrated for not being a DCT. In my opinion, you can't go wrong with either transmission option in this gen BRZ. Stick and paddles should unite instead of fight.

[@huni8268]

Front of GR86 and brz BRZ：😂 GR86:😦

[@timbrown9731]

This BRZ looks so much nicer than the new WRX! In fact on the side vents of the car near the door this and the Toyota reminds me of an ISF!

[@BigFatBabyLegs]

there is a blue one of these near me with like 6 thousand miles on it that they are trying to sell for 38k before taxes. They must have lost there mind.

[@Dreamweaver94]

Vehicle scalpers. People are legit buying cars, putting a few hundred miles on them, then selling them to a different dealer to make a profit. It's ridiculous. Even 2017-2020 BRZs are selling for over retail.

[@DaveDVideoMaker]

I’d have a GR86. We won’t be getting the BRZ here in Europe.

[@RaitisRides]

This is very true Dave

[@ericB3444]

Car is for girl

[@johnn1250]

I would go BRZ, because I like the front bumper better, and it kind of looks like a MK4 Supra from the front.

[@zinny999]

I preferred the GR86 front grill. However is almost 4k more here in Australia so ordered a white BRZ S

[@bobkloth57]

Hey Joe, The very first thing that I thought of when I started watching your video was that the BRZ should be in World Rally Blue, and then, you said the exact same thing. Great minds think alike. Lol 😂

[@RaitisRides]

You better believe it man!

[@MrOfficer235]

Another awesome video, thanks Joe and Lori. Personally I will be purchasing the GR86 but it’s always smart to do your research on both vehicles.

[@franzvanjulio5523]

I do love the 86/BRZ. Hopi g I get to drive it one day. Looking forward to seeing you put it through its paces. I thought the spontaneous acknowledgement of the garbage bag was funny. You and Lori take care.

[@franklinbriones4472]

Only problem is there is no inventory anywhere😩 it’s been impossible get my hands on one

[@PlanoGuy1979]

I like The GR86 Better Then BRZ because GR86 has GR86 logo On Push to Start button and BRZ has A Standard no logo on Push to Start button also I like the GR86 Duck Bill Spoiler that give more down force when driving and it's makes it more fun to drive Then BRZ

[@stimofo808]

Good job on the back to back videos coming out this week!

[@RaitisRides]

You got it my friend!

[@zachbackar5389]

I got the same in Racing Blue. I love ringing it out more than my Acura TLX A-SPEC AWD.

[@brianlee9233]

Subaru and Toyota are killing it with the sports car segment, I love these Toyobarus a lot, but since I'm 6'2", I have to put down the seat before getting in the car because the interior is so tight inside.

[@Tom-cp6yj]

I was wondering that.. I fit very well in my GTI

[@curiosityredpill7030]

Damn I’m 6’3 is it just has tight like Supra?

[@marcwelby1836]

@@curiosityredpill7030 I’m 6’4 and have sat in both. Driving this is more comfortable to me than the Supra. Supra feels really cramped compared to this.

[@curiosityredpill7030]

@@marcwelby1836 ok thank you I figured cause the Supra look real tight for a tall person

[@desertdriver7056]

I’m 6‘5“ and can drive this car no problem. It’s getting in and out that is the challenge. Not sure a tall body is necessarily supposed to bend that way…!

[@terraw3814]

Thank you Lori & Joe! 🚘

[@DenisDamulira23]

This car is really an affordable Porsche. My manual weighs less than toyota said at 2798 will a full tank of gas. Simply amazing power to weight ratio of 12lbs per HP for a NA car. 2023 GR Corolla is at 10.83 with 300HP.

[@Sharmichelle3]

I was just thinking it's shaped like a Porsche.

[@DenisDamulira23]

@@Sharmichelle3 handles like one too

[@zacharywolter]

And once the warranties expire you can slap on a turbo and beat the power to weight

[@mg1822]

Man so many options right now...GR86, BRZ, GR-Four, Nissan Z. I think I'm going to go GR-Four...it's not very often the US gets a rally car..so I got to support that.

[@GC-kw1gq]

I drive both manual & auto - but my eyesight has declined and my daydreaming has inclined. I’m old enough to reminisce:) So automatic with safety features for me. For you too if your in my trajectory/vicinity… Mastering the paddle shifting will be my “challenge”. Downshifting to rev match the computer:)

[@RaitisRides]

I can understand where you are coming from.

[@clemsonguy99]

I’d probably go with the 86. The BRZ front end looks like it’s smiling.

[@lucky889s9]

Yeah but the eyebrows white part of the DRL make it look menacing. Like devils look while smiling

[@amill1563]

I love the design and pricing and character of this car. I'm surprised at the mpg's.

[@pfwww12]

That handling looked super sharp in the drive camera.

[@fijidesi]

I’m here from Australia love watching your channel n detailed video for cars.

[@MrPugheaven]

I just love seeing lower power, smaller sports cars... they're a dying breed and people who are power obsessed (it's not got 300bhp not interested tyoes) are missing out on the gems in this world... these and the GT86 are like a natural successor to the RX8 which for me was the last great handling sports car that didn't have turbos'and stupid amounts of power (over powered really)... love it, hope they're popular!

[@derrickhaley9732]

I drove the 2023 BRZ (w/6-spd MT) this past fall before the snow flew. Tried the Premium (cloth interior) and the Ultimate (leather/ultrasuede interior). Definitely prefer the leather interior, seats just feel better. Fun factor was off the charts for me, as it's been awhile since I drove a sporty car! I found the brakes were a little lacking though, could have definitely used some Brembos. Wanted to try the AT, but none available, very hard to find anywhere in Canada! Looked at ordering one......good luck!! Eventually went with ordering the 2024 Mustang EB in Vapor Blue Metallic w/Nite Pony Package, Active Exhaust, and over the top racing stripe (black/red). A bit more money than the BRZ, but much nicer fit and finish with tons more space (not to mention power & torque)! If I had the money, I'd buy a BRZ as well, who knows, maybe I'll win the lottery.......

[@Blackwing668]

Awesome review Joe and Lori as always! On throttle!!

[@RaitisRides]

Heck yeah man! Thanks for taking the drive with me!

[@ak2112]

I bought a 22 BRZ over the GR86 just because Subaru let me place an order so I could get exactly what I want. Also, multiple outlets reported that the BRZ was a little softer/quieter. Love the car, though I like the front end of the GR better.

[@bryanme5771]

Congratulations! Enjoy!

[@YT1300MF]

That was my situation too. Toyota dealer wanted to upcharge 20% over MSRP for the one they had coming and wouldn’t let me place an order, so went to Subaru and placed an order this week. Plus you can get World Rally Blue on the BRZ.

[@MeowStationOrignal]

The car has a smile on its face how oddly cute.

[@richardledesma1675]

Brz or 86 is honestly just which front fascia you dig more, pretty similar there is nothing that stands out largely significant. I prefer the 86 look much much more, but brz would still be dope too👌🏼

[@gs98999]

Their suspension setups are different. Subaru also has aluminum pieces instead of steel that Toyota uses. I assume only back to back drives could reveal this.

[@richardledesma1675]

@@gs98999 and yet the gr is said to drive a tad bit more sporty from car reviewers and the Subaru a tad bit more compliant but it’s almost negligible

[@TheDiskinsDoEverything]

Finally someone having fun in the Automatic! I can’t drive a manual due to knee injury and have been distraught as every reviewer disses it so much

[@RaitisRides]

Yes you can still have fin. I am sorry to hear bout your knee.

[@dirtycommtroop]

Im not a car guy in fact ive never owned a car. Ive always had an SUV of some sort. I want one of these in my garage someday.

[@sgod5902]

Yea the smaller cars like this are always fun to drive. It’s clean

[@micksmydad]

Huge disappointment with mpg on this car. The larger eco boost 3 pedal Mustang is better?

[@edwindeoleo5258]

Another fantastic video 🔥🙌🏼

[@shahrukhbakar3248]

This car absolutely deserves a Brembo red BBK package on all four corners, and slightly more sport-tuned suspension. Make it an optional package for 2023. I agree that the GR86 just looks better. The TRD parts rollout for the GR86 has been delayed and rather disappointing in North America, and I do not understand why. The door hinge stiffeners should be standard.

[@mikedaleiden7725]

Your route looks fun and A LOT like a road I used to take between Spring Hill and Dade City until mother nature started trying to kill me down there. I had a snake fall out of a tree on my windshield, hit a tortoise at night that did $2K damage bouncing up into the wheel well and kamikazee Bambi's in an area that looks just like that!

[@porfiriato84]

Haha! That is wild. Idk how y'all live in Florida Way too much craziness out there

[@Oaklomon99YT]

Hi Joe, I love this car🤩 can you review the Nissan GTR Nismo please 🙏🙏

[@justchillin619]

I am so relieved now that I know I can carry my Chobani with me in this new BRZ!!

[@mikepollastrelli7725]

I have one just got it last Saturday Ice silver limited 6-speed . Such an awesome car

[@michealmessam884]

I still remember, that the Subaru BRZ of the Future. And I like a lot of more Toyota GT86, Scion FRS, & Toyota GR86. But it's been a while for along time ago for the Future of the Modified Cars in the World.

[@boldcitycc]

It’s not really an awesome intake growl. It’s an active sound generator behind the dash. Pull the plug to it behind a panel on passenger side of dash, and the engine is pretty quiet without it. The noise in the video is almost entirely from the fake sound generator. I own a GR86, and pulled the plug.

[@pauldimaranan8187]

if red is my pick for my subaru brz I would tribute it to my beloved 2008 chrysler pt cruiser!!

[@Dreamweaver94]

I prefer the look of the last of the previous gen BRZs, but a base level trim 2017 BRZ manual with ~35k miles cost like, $28k right now. It'd be rad if prices fit those went down, especially considering the new car is better in almost every way..

[@geoculus5606]

Interesting design with the touchscreen. They gave it enough room to be integrated but still didn't integrate it. Doesn't look bad, but it kind of makes it seem like it's aftermarket.

[@a.jennings4664]

I agree, the Gen 1 touchscreen is better integrated.

[@johnfullmer7659]

Nice car and just a little bit of fun times nice design and style Thank you Lori and Joe have a great day be safe happy healthy

[@goranyordanoff2472]

I really wish the question posed in the title of this video was addressed by the reviewer and not just left us at the end.

[@leviefrauim1425]

This looks like a great, fun little car- thanks for the review, Joe.

[@ruturaj47]

I liked and wanted GR86, but I can't order one and available ones have crazy mark up. Quote I got had 4.5k in markup. For BRZ I placed an order for 2023 model year, expected to be delivered in August at invoice price (I used Subaru VIP program). I would probably end up putting new sway bars for sure, may be a supercharger in future 😉.

[@forza388]

I'm glad you reviewd this automatic since I live in the busy city and dont want a manuel in busy traffic

[@Barbwire710]

Manuel?

[@keithprinn720]

totally agree Brembos like the STi and Sachs dampers so much want.

[@ameraboukoura6091]

I’m more of a Toyota person so I prefer gr86 also want a gr badge too

[@matthyatt3143]

If it wasn't for the 2003 camry heated seat buttons and cruise control stalk, this car would be perfect!

[@zaheeralghul2509]

Hopefully this generation goes on for as long as possible

[@dominickirkwood]

Joe and Lori and keep up the work and I love the video lot real true 👍

[@mikefields2243]

I purchased one yesterday and so far love it.

[@stevecameron9439]

I would pick the one that gets here first , though I would go with the 86 if I had to choose between them sitting in front of me available for purchase.

[@LurkerDood]

If the Supra looked like this, it would be 🔥🔥🔥

[@newzealanddeeksealant4369]

Why the breaking lights are only one bulb I will never understand. Same with the partial lighting for the daytime running lights. Really makes this car look bad.

[@chabbysrides]

Looks like a ton of fun Joe. Love the color I’d go BRZ.

[@aeronYTco]

I like the GR 86 more because it looks to be more tail happy. But best is to drive them both before I conclude.

[@timothye5936]

I chose the BRZ because it seemed to be more tuned to daily driving. Which is my primary use.

[@aeronYTco]

@@timothye5936 I feel the BRZ feels more planted, or better for road use, while the GR86 is more focused for the track.

[@timothye5936]

@@aeronYTco agreed…it’s surprising supple. A little loud in the cabin, but it’s a sports car.

[@MTNorville]

I’m waiting for somebody to fit that GR turbo 3 cylinder into the 86.

[@selimpullu420]

Thank you for another great review.

[@mr.2cents.846]

I like the new face. The slightly longer nose really works.

[@mattreanor0611]

I would love to test drive this car one day. Looks good!

[@brolyvi1211]

Garbage bag was hilarious

[@eddiewehmeyer1811]

Just drove the GR86 through Kanan CNYN and PCH HWY1 and it was a blast. 6spd.M/T makes the car a lot more fun IMO Good bang for the buck and very connected to the road.

[@jamesgerboc]

Is it noisy inside to drive? Sounds like you have to yell at the camera above the road noise.

[@SPARTANDRIVES]

who buys a brz automatic? we will forget everything we know about cars

[@Zeyek1]

brz vs acura integra???

[@joebrito2066]

I’m 6’5, I wish I comfortably drive this car

[@desertdriver7056]

I’m 6‘5“ with pretty long legs and can comfortably drive it. It’s getting in and out that’s the challenge…

[@joebrito2066]

@@desertdriver7056 👍

[@DHKarol]

I must agree the gr86 front looks a bit sportier but brz front looks lower and wider thanks to that lower grill hence I would pick brz

[@christiantaylor9873]

PLEASE review a 2022 Mitsubishi mirage G4 SE

[@bill4632]

I'll take this in silver, with the manual & black wheels... Thanks.

[@lucky889s9]

That's what i thought too... Looks badass yet clean

[@DCAISTHEWAY]

You brought da Chobani. Never change, man. Never change…

[@lucky889s9]

I notice this BRZ DRL got a little eyebrows on top than that of gr86. And it looks much better. Like the grill too than square box gr86

[@EllenT1018-r8b]

I love the 2023 BRZ. The only flaw is that the steering wheel doesn’t go down much. I’m very short & the steering wheel is blocking my view. My 2019 370Z Nismo had a steering wheel that went down to my lap.

[@chrisx5127]

Why did you chose it over the GR86?

[@aapinor]

Great review as always Rati! I would go with the Toyota GR 86! ❤❤👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

[@teamskdm1]

the brz has that miata happy face smile . the gr86 is clearly more angry.

[@chrisdakins2010]

Awesome review!

[@mattlittlej]

Coil overs + sway bars + BBK and you’re ready for autoX!

[@blakerh]

I have the same blue "On Throttle" shirt. It looks great and the material is very nice!

[@timbrown9731]

Joe I can’t wait for you to get your hands on a GR Corolla the new Nissan Z and obviously the BRZ, This car looks like a fun little car again I just wish it had a little bit more power!

[@frankpavan3044]

Beautiful looking car!!!

[@BenDover-ru1dc]

Put a front license plate on the BRZ and the GR 86, and the looks of the GR 86 wins hands down.

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

Gasket issue needs to be addressed at factory

[@whatsupryan]

I think I prefer the gr86 based on the front and the spoiler. Unrelated, Joe you should post an update vid on your 350r … love that car man! 🔥

[@zeroher0876]

Really would've been cool to review both cars right next t each other