Is the 2023 Honda Civic Hatchback a BETTER car to BUY than a Toyota Corolla?

[@derringera]

It's crazy how right they got the new Civic and how wrong they got the new Accord within a year of each other.

[@BezmenovDisciple]

What’s wrong with the Accord? Just wondering.

[@WillseanTaylor]

@@BezmenovDisciplein my opinion both the taillight and headlight design are BIG flops with the ‘23 Accord.

[@BezmenovDisciple]

@@WillseanTaylor Damn. Those are my favorite parts of the new gen.

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue]

@@WillseanTaylorYup, the 2023 ones are ugly

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wrubg

[@barbiezilla1633]

I recently purchased the same Honda red color with black rims and I am absolutely stunned by it. It's very spacious for me and my kids :)

[@MrDaveaccord]

Almost bought a Touring sedan but went for the Acura Integra A Spec instead after the Honda dealer added over $1K in accessory nonsense to the price. Acura dealer had 14 on the lot and I got $1K knocked off the MSRP. I was thrilled.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wrubg chief cars accrees cats $140,000

[@dwightmolas]

Hey Joe got the same trim same car same color, got 13k miles already and loving it since day 1 I got her. You are right about the chrome trim by the window. I just bought some black stickers cover it. The hatch really is the best thing about this carfor me. The flexibility of this car is top notch for me.

[@Lazirus951]

Right there with you. People are blown away when I show them the storage capacity despite the car looking so sleek. I've been toying with blacking out the chrome too. It's not the end of the world, but it does feel out of place.

[@adccars359]

They actually look really good in that color. Instant hit imo

[@Benscarreviews]

Such a great affordable option! No trim is ignored when it comes to Raiti’s Rides. Thanks for the content!

[@stanleetfk3823]

50k in Canada tax in. Honda will squeeze every penny on this chip shortage. Nevermind poor to no strategy on electric and hybrid vehicles. Call me wrong

[@stanleetfk3823]

@Steezus Christ In Canada 🇨🇦 the regulations clearly stipulate that dealers must sell at MRSP plus tax . What some of them do, example VW , on some models, Gti or R , they would roll the car few hundred miles and then sell the unit as Used car at mrsp ++( market price).Reason is obviously very low numbers of units allocated for Canada due to so called " chip shortage and part shortage ". Also Kia and not only add some crazy dealer fees reason for some clients to file official complaints, in Alberta I think. As conclusion, this is the Dealers Market, but this mess won't last forever, especially due to high interest rates . At least in ON where I reside there are Dealers like Ford and GM building inventory on the lots, prices are high and combined with the high interest rates will make lot of them to offer incentives/ discounts.

[@yurrickhunt9707]

@@SteezusChrist__that’s not correct information

[@yurrickhunt9707]

@@SteezusChrist__ well hey thanks for calling me a dummy but I meant the information that guy provided you was incorrect there’s no legal requirement in Canada for dealers to sell at msrp

[@MoeCamera]

Everyone and there momma has a Honda. I would never get one it’s not special

[@qnzman578]

Amazing that this looks better than the new accord

[@LawnMower-jv8hg]

Almost anything does. The new accord looks like a kids concept drawing they had to do for homework.

[@bigbufobufo]

The new accord looks like they designed it to be a budget rental car

[@tuanhng0]

The new Honda Accord design is horrendous. :(

[@UltimateTuner10]

Despite this car being on the pricy side for what you’d think for a Civic being over $30,000, it still manages to look, feel, and drive even more expensive than it is.

[@michaelkuhn402]

I bought mine in Feb brand new at the dealers for 26K

[@skullrx3444]

I have had mine now for a few months and i love it. i had a 21 accord before this so i do miss the power, but this handles so much better. i even took it for a blast in tail of the dragon. completely shocked myself and those with me at how well it did being it is stock and they were all in modded 10th gen civics.

[@raven4k998]

it's a turbo charger not a twin turbo remember that🤣

[@omendarklight1526]

Looks better than the sedan version, I was worried about this one. Still kinda am. Great Review Raiti Rides

[@davidp2888]

I got a 2023 Corolla SE with a sunroof and JBL sound system for $30K out the door. The CVT is much better than it was in the past and even though Honda has a turbo I think the Corolla is a better value. Admittedly, I'm biased. Another FANTASTIC and comprehensive review, Joe!

[@raven4k998]

that's Toyota or Honda for you improving the tranny to be more durable and last longer gotta love it

[@auntlalanyc]

I have a Corolla S... I like it. BUT the Honda Civic has way more pep!

[@raven4k998]

@@auntlalanyc till it rips it's cvt belt apart with that pep🤣

[@auntlalanyc]

@@raven4k998 lol

[@raven4k998]

@@auntlalanyc well it's true it happens from the simulated gears all that yanking on the belt to give you those acceleration bursts like your changing gears they do take there toll on the belt over time ripping it apart that is why a good long lasting cvt has smooth linear boring acceleration

[@nikoleigraham8747]

I really like the new pov camera, it gives a good impression of what its like to drive the car. Great job :)

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

Hey Joe! Another milestone, 970 K Subs! We just got 30 K more to go! Also can't wait for the first drive the Canyon and Colorado Zr2! 😁👊👊👌

[@ericB3444]

Maybe EMILIO should track YOUS SUBS at once.

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

@@ericB3444 YOUTUBILO is in charge of this in our basement of our beach house in San Diego. BoOPs on shore

[@Idkwhtpsipto]

Wow that color is fkn nice! I have a white sport touring 27K miles now I absolutely love it! No regrets every month when I bend over to pay for it, as some day I won’t be paying for it and she’ll still be in good shape 😀😀

[@RaitisRides]

That is really fantastic that you are happy with the Civic.

[@user-gq8hf3kq6v]

I have this same color but mine is a Honda civic EX-L it came with spoiler window tint Leather seats and all weather mats includes It was definitely worth the money and it also came with all the outside covers

[@shahrukhbakar3248]

The wheels are absolutely fantastic. The Civic hatchback is still available with the 2.0L NA engine with 6MT which will probably have the best long-term reliability - no high-pressure fuel pump, no direct injection, and no oil dilution issues.

[@andybub45]

Yes the K20 is a bulletproof engine

[@robertevans3604]

The "oil dilution" is a cheap shot since it's been a few years and Honda has pretty much fixed that problem.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

If it was RWD I would have bought it yesterday.

[@t.k.morris]

@@robertevans3604 Same thing then with other brands everyone wants to bash huh? What do you think about the Elantra-N ?? It currently cost less tgan the Civic because of dealer mark-ups! Yet, everyone wants to compare it to a Type R which costs at least $15k more today. Why isn't it compared to the SI? Same price bracket, or closer at least, at MSRP vs MSRP pricing.

[@chodkowski01]

@@robertevans3604 the difference is direct injection vs port injection and the way they keep the valves clean.

[@firianto]

As far as practicality is concerned, a hatchback is always better than a sedan

[@ericB3444]

WRONG

[@jamisonz3365]

Exactly. I don't understand the point of a sedan except for maybe S class or 7 series. Its trunk space is less practical because of the three-box bodytype, with no benefit whatsoever compared to a hatchback, wagon or SUV.

[@anaveragehuman2937]

@@jamisonz3365 Sedans have better chassis rigidity and noise suppression. Sedan trunks are lockable to keep your things secure and out of sight from even your passengers. Can't smash n grab through steel. Otherwise, hatchback only wins by volume. Subjectively, I like the look of hatchbacks, sportbacks, and wagons more than sedans :)

[@jamisonz3365]

@AnAverageHuman But the civic/Corolla or anything else hatch chassis are exactly same with the sedan version. There's no such thing as a better chassis and noise suppression. As for the lockable part, it still doesn't make much sense. The Hatchback/SUV usually have a storage plate/board that keeps the storage place out of sight. And criminals can still break through the windows of a sedan if they want.

[@anaveragehuman2937]

@@jamisonz3365 Look closer. The sedan and hatchback chassis/bodies are different. You'll see some variances in legroom, wheelbase, track, and torsional rigidity. They're based on the same platform but all major manufacturers make the platforms scalable for different applications. Objectively, the noise levels are different as well. The hatchback truck area is open to the passenger space so any noise intrusion from rear wheels has no barrier to a passengers ears. Sedans trunk area is closed off reducing a common noise intrusion vector. I'll try to give an extreme example to make my point. Given the same platform and level of noise insulation, which would be quieter, stiffer, etc? Civic based minivan or civic based coupe? I would say coupe. On the spectrum, a sedan is closer to coupe and hatchback closer to minivan. IMO of course. Maybe we should break out the gauges and meters to really settle to question haha.

[@Orange-yp9bl]

$32k ... damn I purchase a 2017 Honda accord V6 with Honda sensing for $30k brand new ... times have changed

[@moneyman8452]

Parking sensors, standard led lights, led fog lights, new Honda sensing sensors, blind spot monitoring, rear cross traffic alert, full digital dash, 10 inch screen with Apple CarPlay I can go on more. Regular cars today have so much bs tech this is why there 30k plus.

[@Gen10civic]

I got my 2018 sedan si for 24,000 in 2018 brand new. And to think I thought $34k was too expensive for a type r . They sat in lots everywhere that year

[@rachelgreen1368]

@@moneyman8452 All this junk costs $500 from China.

[@rachelgreen1368]

@@Gen10civic I watched base Nissan 370z for $32k back in 2020. They couldn't sell them for many months.

[@porschegt2346]

Nobody here understands inflation. Talking bout “I bought my 99 honda civic for 14k, I would never pay 32k blah blah “, I’m sure back the you were making 5 bucks an hour also.

[@deundreward7057]

This hatchback looks even better than sedan style.

[@deivsonsilva9230]

fantastic review 👏 the honda civic is an iconic car here in brazil unfortunately it is no longer manufactured here, nowadays we only have the hybrid version that comes imported with a very high price.

[@cambo438]

joe you’re right the back light looks nice it lights up when you brake too but you already know that

[@cherokeefit4248]

I want a type r so bad but I refuse to pay a crazy premium from the dealer or some guy that raced his car and wants to flip it

[@jmackd1]

i've got a 2016 touring coupe......I wish they would bring back the coupes....Love my civic, with the 1.5 ltr turbo not one problem with 125000 miles...

[@avery4528]

This car is so Accord like that I wish we still had the Honda Fit

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

The Fit was passed it’s prime. Get the Civic hatchback and you’ll see it’s Honda’s best hatchback.

[@avery4528]

@@haroldbeauchamp3770 the rear headroom is pretty bad, just gonna wait and see how the golf gti ages

[@Rip84LW]

I had this same exact car for 3 months. I loved it. Only thing i did not like about it was the CVT with lack of power. The sound system is amazing. Once i saw pictures of the new Honda Accord i quickly sold my Civic Hatch Sport Touring. I am now back into a 2022 Honda Accord 2.0t Sport in Sonic Grey. This Accord still amazes me still till this day even though it came out in like 2018. It totally outshines the new Accord and the new Civic in my opinion. It is so fast! I still love the new Touring Sport Civic Hatch though. Just wished they tuned it to at least 200HP but i guess they saved that for the new Integra. I do not think i would ever go back to a CVT though. I wish all companies would stop making them. That is just my opinion. Now the new Type R outshines them all! Wish they made that thing into a 10 Speed Auto with paddle but most people on here would tell me i am either stupid or crazy and whatever rude comment they can come up with lol its fine. Cheers

[@t.k.morris]

Those people you mention that would bash you, would probably also tell you that a CVT or some form of an automatic is quicker. Double standards in their opinions. Personally, I don't care which one anyone chooses, but I want a manual just because that is what I like and what I want.

[@BlaqMambaX]

I love this hatchback's look much more than the regular Civic sedan. This is likely going to be my next car. The only thing I don't like is that I would have to settle for leather seats in order to get the sunroof.

[@michaelandrew8493]

Just bought a silver one today

[@BlaqMambaX]

What trim?

[@michaelandrew8493]

@@BlaqMambaX sport it's nice man it's all I need

[@timdonlan6627]

Got the sonic gray touring a couple months ago. Would definitely recommend the touring trim.

[@tedwhite5197]

Joe, I love your informative and entertaining videos.

[@SmartPracticeSuccess]

I bought a brand new 2023 Honda Civic Touring sedan in January. Personally, I think the sedan looks better than the hatchback. Mine is meteorite gray with a two-tone black/gray interior. (Honda says the seats are gray but they look ivory to me.) It’s a gorgeous car, almost semi-luxury with all of its bells and whistles. It may sound silly to say about a Civic, but it almost looks like an executive sedan. The comments disparaging the Civic’s higher price, larger size, more tech and luxury aren’t seeing Honda’s goals for the Civic (and Accord). Honda is intentionally moving upmarket with their cars, aiming to attract more women in their 30’s-50’s with money to spend. The Civic’s gorgeous new interior, tech and luxury touches are all about attracting these professional women. Civic is no longer aimed at college kids. I’m in my 40’s and they got me with this gorgeous 11th generation Civic. (I’d been driving my ‘02 Civic LX for 18 years. It was definitely time for an upgrade.) I’m super happy with it. I only wish Honda didn’t keep making their cars bigger all the time. I’m 4’11” and need a *small* car!

[@JazzRoyce]

Love my sport touring hatch, its a ‘22 and that sport mode makes a definite difference In drivability

[@ericB3444]

Weak car.

[@robertevans3604]

@@ericB3444 Can't afford it? lol 😎

[@MC-ie8xl]

I’m looking at the 2024 civic sport touring, what do you think?

[@Jovibe23]

My 1st Honda 2005 DX 5 speed and sold it. 2nd Honda 2018 Honda DX Auto and sold it. 3rd Honda 2023 Honda Civic sport touring hatchback white 6-speed manual The next Honda car I'll be getting is a Type R year...?

[@RaitisRides]

Sounds like a plan.

[@youseecars]

Joe you bring that sweet enthusiasm enthusiastically to us Car Enthusiasts

[@emmanuelvaldez9242]

I love this car, everything about it is awesome. I actually went and got one in white but with the 6 speed manual. I have always been a manual guy and I love it, everything about this car is awesome. Thank you for doing the review. the red is nice but I just really took to the white pearl.

[@raven4k998]

Nice!!!

[@edwarddejong8025]

A Civic that costs 32k... yikes. I blame the govt for adding more and more required crashworthiness and equipment, it is making new cars so expensive, that people are sticking with way older, way more dangerous cars. An Accord should be 32k. A civic should be 20-25k. The beauty of a Japanese car is that it is status neutral; it doesn't have flash, it allows people to bypass status conversations. Honda does make cheaper models, but doesn't import them to the USA. It's tragic that the Japanese have abandoned the original segment they conquered, which was inexpensive, reliable transportation. This is a well made vehicle, Honda is the best engineered Japanese brand, but when you add the reg fees and sales tax (almost 10% here in california), this would be 35k out the door, and unsustainable high price for consumers.

[@bruceleeroy8302]

The Civic Type R was re-released in 2017 and the MSRP was about $34.5k. Now you'd be lucky to get a 2017 TypeR with 60k miles on it for $35k. The new ones are going for $60k+ It's totally ridiculous.

[@edwarddejong8025]

@@bruceleeroy8302 All of the fancy Toyotas and Hondas have 5-10K dealer markup. Honda just brought back their entry level DX trim, and that helps a little bit, but with no Ford Escort, no Toyota Echo, no Honda Fit, etc., under 25k i can only think of the Ford Maverick, which they won't have a 3rd shift making until July 2023, and i don't expect people can order one until October 2023. With much higher interest rates, the whole bottom 25% of the USA is locked out of the new car market. That's not good for America. A car is a symbol and an expression of independence and freedom. The Chinese could bring their cheapo cars, but they aren't going to. And India has cheap cars, but isn't trying.

[@xp50player]

It’s as big as Accords used to be, and really they are both EPA large class now, so the added cost is for a bigger car.

[@ashkanm.362]

I wonder at this point if you can just buy one overseas and bring it over for cheaper

[@codeman409]

You could, if you wait 25 years for them to be legal for import iirc

[@cooper.dalferro]

I bought the 2023 Honda Civic Hatchback on December 12th last year and I payed 32,000 for it and put down 18. Right now I’m only paying 204.04 a month and it is worth the money

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@bryanwashington9511]

I'm digging this Civic Sport Touring hatchback in the red!

[@esemteckreal4873]

I love the red reflector feature in the rear center. It’s like a type r. Love it.

[@naveenthemachine]

Yes it’s absolutely better than the corolla in just about every way

[@sergeysmelnik]

I have both. A 22 civic sport sedan and a 21 Corolla sport nightshade, both with cvt. I prefer the civic. Both are great cars however. The major difference is the civic is bigger and feels more premium but it also cost 4 or 5k more. The civic sport rides stiffer and handles better but the corolla is more comfortable on long drives and has less road noise. Engine wise they are both a naturally aspirated 2.0 and transmission wise they are both cvt however the corolla has a real first gear and feels quicker than the civic. The civic cvt feels smoother. Their mpg is exactly the same. The seats are softer in the corolla but I like the civic seats too. Interior wise the civic is a full step up in design and quality. Both base stereos suck. Overall the civic feels like a step up in class and size and the chassis just feels better. I rent these cars out so I would have chosen neither trim. If I bought one for myself it would either be an SI or a sport touring manual.

[@mssn3166]

Hatchbacks are great when your moving big things. That wide door opening is essential with half sedan look. Perfect.

[@bruceleeroy8302]

Looks great but $32k for a Civic? I paid far less than that for my 2017 GTI a few years ago. The only difference is mine didn't have a sunroof.

[@matte8441]

Cars have gotten more expensive lately. I paid $32K for my non-GTI Golf in 2020.

[@OleMisss]

@@matte8441 that’s rough man

[@matte8441]

@@OleMisss Its rougher nowadays. Im a tech at a dealership and its not uncommon for compact cars to be in the $30K range. Minivans are going for $50-60K now.

[@j8bautistaduran485]

Raitis rides eres el más consistente haciendo estos videos felicidades bro 🤝👏

[@ericB3444]

This is not Spain, son.

[@boonie3]

I think the E HEV version is the Civic to get this generation with the amazing mileage it gets.

[@wbwayne8887]

It's definitely going to be the ultimate daily driver. In regards to EVERYTHING. Can't wait to see more. Just hope the cost is held in check.

[@xp50player]

Will surely cost more for the hybrid and no engine tuning for an Atkinson cycle system. No performance advantage.

[@DS..69]

You want to play you Goin pay. Lol

[@wbwayne8887]

@xp50player I'm ok with that, for something that is a highly efficient, extremely versatile, fun to drive daily. Of course it would be perfect with a manual, but I know that isn't possible with the 2.0 hybrid powertrain. 🤷‍♂️

[@sharonbraselton4302]

​@@xp50playerwrng there 8ß

[@SuperSymbol]

I like the Civic Hatch e:HEV it can do like 60-80MPG if you rlly try

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@TheHuester44]

I have a 2014 Civic Si and I’m considering getting the hatchback. I know it’s less powerful but I believe the little turbo will be better down low in the powerband better gas mileage and regular gas instead of high test. The hatchback convenience will help with loading a mountain bike or gravel bike in the back .

[@Idkwhtpsipto]

All accurate bro.

[@DiscipleofChrist101]

Less powerful? A Two Step Performance tune will fix that. Comes free if you purchase a ktuner from them. In all, you'll get about 3 or so tunes for around $450. Well worth it.

[@preethammannem8378]

Nice review. I think civic hatchback looks better than any other in the market.

[@Sunjib12345]

Hey Raiti's Rides How Are You Can You Make The 2023 Hyundai Sonata Limited Sedan Great Video Have A Nice Day

[@kovalm3]

I am a civic fan. Used to have 3 of them. This is nice one, needs at least 200 bhp, and a manual.

[@AlexIsUber]

SI has all that

[@IronGuardLegionnaire]

its called the si

[@cabbagehead8082]

Si my guy

[@liudxdx]

or the type r my man

[@quadrygrace94]

Wait they got rid of manual for the hatch??? I thought it was only the hatch sport you could still get Manual without going si and type r

[@TypicalToyReviews]

Hey Joe! Do you have a video coming of the 2024 Sonata, or do you have to wait until they show it in the US?

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@michaelkuhn402]

I have the 2023 Civic Sport Sedan. 2.0 Liter No turbo. Love the car. The Rally Red gets me so many compliments from people. Put on the Paddle Shifter extensions It's great to slip it in sports mode drop down the gear and pass the slower trucks. Great car. Econo mode is getting me 33 city and hwy driving.

[@panglingaow]

Is it slow?

[@michaelkuhn402]

No I get plenty of power.@@panglingaow

[@mattmekhaeil]

The manual option would be the way to go instead of getting a cvt. Glad Honda kept it unlike Toyota where they dropped the manual option for this year

[@kenro-96]

89 degrees black leather no vented seats. It s ok.. Love this car. Would never get an accord LX over this. For the extra 3 or 4k, this is the way to go. Smooth, quiet, handling, steering , resale, reliability. Best of everything. It s why I have 2 Civics.

[@DiscipleofChrist101]

I'd love to get this in a manual but... 31k?! It's a civic... Acura may have recently remembered their heritage, but Honda must've forgot what the Civic was all about. Affordability.

[@ogi-9346]

I own a civc hatchback but The new civics worth almost what an elantra N worth. And the elantra N is being compared against the civic Type R 😅 I don't need a new car but if I do, I'll choose the elenatra N wich has a lot more HP more futures and overall a better performance car than a hatchback civic.

[@StopWhatYerDoing]

I got the Corolla hatch in the SE trim because I wanted a cheap and reliable manual. The Sport Civic with the 2.0L is naturally aspirated, but it's got less power than the Corolla, is direct injection only, and is still more expensive. Even then I still don't trust the 1.5L turbo in the higher trims. I love my lil Corolla and am very happy with it overall, but I will say, I'm envious of the hatch space in the Civic!

[@Jumpman67]

The civic 2.0 isn’t direct injection. It’s port injected.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@StopWhatYerDoing]

@@Jumpman67 damn, I just checked their website and it does say the 2.0 is multi-point injection! I stand corrected.

[@Jumpman67]

@@StopWhatYerDoing In your defense I think they had it incorrectly labeled as direct injection at some point.

[@tradermarkkalil86]

Nice, I like the hatchbacks

[@alengreen589]

the same 0 - 60 mph time and topspeed like my 2022 Kia Sportage with 178 HP, 48V mild Hybrid system, 7 speed DCT, not bad Honda 👍👍👍

[@ThePenaboy2]

In Dallas these are still marked up or have high add ons. While the Integra you can get 3k off msrp

[@coy9898]

I have the 2022 Touring trunk as in Canada it’s up to $5000 extra for hatchback. Also wireless charging still isn’t fixed for newer iPhones. Dealership knows about it and says Honda is aware but there’s no fix. Also the back up camera looks like it’s out of the iPhone 3. The infotainment system lags and needs to not be touched for 3 mins when first started. Those are the flaws but rest of the car has been great. I don’t see any difference in the 2023 model

[@sqquintzz]

Got my 2023 platinum pearl early December. Loving every mile with it 🤙🏽

[@ericB3444]

What does she’s in there and platinum Pearl the name is cheesy son

[@porschegt2346]

This civics actually cheaper then civics of the past when Inflation is factored in. What’s the problem.. ??

[@lukehatfield4392]

Picked up a 2022 LX hatch for about $24k. For the lowest trim it’s amazing how much you get. Love Honda. The ultimate utilitarian brand!

[@hutzman7664]

Glad I got my ‘22 for $30,800. Prices going up!!

[@ericB3444]

Weak car.

[@DJKiguee]

i own it. i love it. just wish after market cosmetics for the hatch was more abundant.

[@mystictk4149]

I like it Joe, the design of it from the front end to the rear end. The inside is done well in my opinion as well so not many zonks at all but maybe a few small things.

[@raven4k998]

yeah and it has real dual exhaust I love that😃

[@t.k.morris]

U R Right Joe ... I like the red lens across the rear end underneath the spoiler. Is the little lip spoiler taped on or bolted on?

[@biglugaming8378]

I LOVED my 2018 sport touring, and then upgraded to a 2020 Kia Stinger. I got a promotion and started driving about 100 miles a day, and needed to downsize again to be smart. Man are Civics overpriced now! I went with the Elantra N Line for the few extra features for 6k less than this and although I think the civic is better, I’m satisfied so far.

[@t.k.morris]

I know exactly what you mean, I got two quotes from Honda dealers. One in GA and one in TN and they both had $5k mark-up over MSRP window sticker. Elantra-N is less to purchase as is a Mazda3 Premium hatchback(much nicer interior) and so is the GTI in the S trim, the 40th anniversary trim and the SE trim with 241hp and it also runs on regular 87 octane fuel.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@peterjordan2738]

Hondas are usually pricier than their competition. Paying over $32K is not what I would have expected. I can get myself a Mazda CX-5 for that price point. I am waiting on to see the new Forester and Outback Hybrids (will be a Toyota Hybrid system which cannot be beaten)

[@melmel8828]

So, joe, i hope i can get an answer from you i watch your channel alot getting ideas for my next car but my question does a honda civic last for a long time? Or toyota corolla last a long time?? I want a forever car.. what you think??

[@RaitisRides]

I Mel! You can really go with either! They both are very reliable. The Toyota will give you a little better fuel economy but the Civic drives better.

[@CHICOZTACOS]

Love the look of the car. Honda should have made the SI a hatch.

[@RaitisRides]

They do not want to dilute Type R sales.

[@t.k.morris]

@@RaitisRides Not a good reason Joe! People who want a Type R, want it for the HP and track tuned suspension and other specialty parts. Do you really believe that people would buy fewer Type Rs? Then why allow Acura to sell their new but not good quality product? Will it not take away from Type R sales. Logic doesn't seem to be an indication of that thought process.

[@joeschmo2693]

Nice car. I think the silver trim around the doors should be all black. Just bought a '23 Corolla, so no going back now. For me, I'll take the lower power non turbo and all the extra miles it'll rack up - I didn't go with a 4 cylinder subcompact for the rubber burning HP.

[@khaledhekmat5980]

Hey Joe, I have been watching your channel for the past two years looking for different cars and what’s going on. I have decided to buy a Honda civic hatchback. My question is, is it worth it to go Civic sport touring hatchback or just save myself 5k and go Civic sport hatchback? Please help me I’m going crazy lol Thanks in advance

[@juannevindez6969]

Has major electric power steering problems. Honda is refusing a recall and NHTSA is investigating.

[@CombatVeteranUSNAVY]

I paid $27,000 for my 2022 KIA Forte GT. I have ventilated and heated seats, I have a vent in the rear of the console, and I have power lumbar support. I don't have a 12 speaker Bose stereo, but I do have an 8 speaker Harmon Karden radio, navigation, and a sunroof. How Honda did not place lumbar support in a $32,000 car is outrageous. Now, does my car drive and handle as well as the Honda, I not sure. I had a 2020 Honda Civic Sport Hatchback, and that car handled and drove very well.

[@tomdrummy4984]

It’s like a little suv with the hatchback 👍

[@ericB3444]

Nobody cares what you like grow up

[@Blackwing668]

I wouldn’t mind a Honda civic as my first car but I’ll go with the sport sedan with the HPD package in rallye red with black accents.

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

Sounds cool bro 😎. Joe is officially at 970 K Subs!

[@Blackwing668]

@@DarkJediChrisG-1425 so close bro in two days is the media drive for the Mazda cx90

[@ericB3444]

EMILIO. Son: MOOP.

[@Blackwing668]

@@ericB3444 hey there Ericball YOUS CUB. Moop

[@ericB3444]

@@Blackwing668 REMOOP

[@kelee4730]

Best looking Honda!

[@hutzman7664]

Any trim with Sport in it should never have chrome.

[@DocLobster94]

That’s like your opinion man

[@MARTINRIGGSS]

My go to for car reviews. You waste no time and tell us everything we need.

[@Ghanshyam00000]

I didn't see a corolla hatch i think civik is more awesome than the corolla this civik looks sexy

[@newsmedia-one9756]

We love you joe! ❤ 🙌🏾

[@keithkornatoski9162]

putting my money where my mouth is ... last week I put my name (actually my daughter's name) on a 2024 Civic Sport Touring Hatchback to be built in April 2024 ... now for the mouth part .. NO CVT for us ... going with the 6MT (which am guessing is probably the last year for it if Honda goes with the hybrid in top trims) ... once they are gone they will be gone forever! (i think i mentioned this earlier but my first new Honda was a 1976 Honda Civic CVCC '5 Speed' the original "sporty" Civic ... yep all 68HP of it!!! ,... Thanks Keith Chicago IL

[@keithkornatoski9162]

and forgot to add ... I'm with you on the rear full-width light ... It may look funky without it ... or simply like 'any other vehicle'

[@cervanteforfun1864]

Honda with the hatchback is the easy choice for me and the hybrid version will be the runaway favorite. Toyota put zero passion in the design of the corolla. I'm even a Toyota Lexus guy.

[@panglingaow]

Mazda 3 beats civic and corolla, i test drove all 3. Mazda 191 hp 187 torque no cvt 25k Civic 158hp CVT 😅 26600k Corolla 169hp cvt 26k Mazda comes standard with BSM and G vector technology the turns are amazing! And interior like a Audi. I use to be a honda and Toyota guy but now my middle name is Mazda!

[@otrbron5936]

The screen is shit

[@boost331]

New challenger approaching. 2024 Impreza RS makes 182hp 178 TQ. Its a hatchback with even more space. Also has AWD for $3k less.

[@xp50player]

No more manual option. Less total interior volume than the Civic hatch by 1sq ft and 3 less luggage volume.

[@boost331]

@@xp50player The no manual thing does kind of suck. But the fact is people bitch about it, but nobody actually buys them in these types of cars. People DO want manuals (I have 3 myself) but nobody buys them to be cheap and efficient anymore. In a sports car I absolutely 100% need a manual, even in situations where the automatic option may be faster. But in a little putt putt civic, impreza, corolla, etc. Nobody cares about a manual because it will never be sporty and the reason people buy them is to get something cheap and efficient. That makes the CVT the better option. Subaru makes a far better CVT than honda these days. The NA engine in the subaru is also way more reliable than the high strung tiny little turbo engine in the hondas. The subaru will also get nearly the same MPG even while having AWD which no honda cars (not SUV or crossover) offer. All while costing a good deal less. You can keep the extra cubic foot of space. I dont need it to be a moving truck.

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

Hard pass. I don’t want that legendary Subaru unreliability.

[@boost331]

@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Statements like that are just as outdated as "toyota makes the most reliable vehicles" Neither have been true for well over a decade. But whatever floats your boat.

[@garyalbert9297]

I like the red totally across the rear of the car.

[@speedracer0495]

3:43 😭😭I love this guy 🤣🤣

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for letting me share the laughs and the cars with you!

[@BanBiofuels]

It's a great car. I love everything about it except the high price and the spider hotel on the front dash.

[@RaitisRides]

I know how you feel.

[@desmondgurley]

Crazy how the new civic is actually better than the new accord

[@MTB_CRZY]

I think for the money, Id got for the Acura instead and get the manual transmission. A few thousand more but red leather interior is much nicer! The CVT is such a let down and I wish they would just die off already. They have no soul!

[@georgedoolittle7574]

Honda as does Toyota and Nissan still move the metal so be interesting to see how all of the German name plates respond to that to include of course Tesla. Most profitable and best vehicle market to be in has *ALWAYS* been the Sedan Market so yet again this entire Industry excepting Detroit unless it's Cadillac still know where their bread is buttered #SMART Great review as always.

[@VanquishedAgain]

No way. Pickup trucks are the best market to be in. They make like 100% profit on those stupid things

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy nassain leaf

[@RelearnMath]

32k?! I don’t understand why people wouldn’t just get the Integra, 35k gets you the limited slip differential , 12 way memory seats with Alcántara, adaptive dampers, the ELS 3D sound system…

[@xp50player]

The Integra is ugly inside and out; that’s my reason. The dash design is a lesser derivative of the Civic’s pure Zen design. It’s 37k to get a manual. The hatch liftover is higher.

[@narnold87]

11:31 “for your famous…birthday mayonnaise eating contest” LMFAO wth Joe 😂😂😂

[@dominickirkwood]

I love it Joe and Lori and Steve and keep up the good work and I love the video 👍

[@DavidElCid300]

I almost choked on my seltzer water when you said, "Unless there's something wrong with ya." Hilarious.

[@darekgwozdz]

I went with the 2023 Civic EX Sedan over the Sport Hatchback. For only $1,000 more, I got a sunroof, remote start, heated seats, blind spot monitoring, and the 1.5T engine. The 17 inch wheels provide a smoother and more comfortable ride compared to the 18 inch wheels. The sedan looks better and has the same amount of cargo space. The only advantage the hatch provides is a wider opening. Fuel economy is also better with the sedan at 42 highway/33city compared to the hatch at 37 highway/29 city.

[@xp50player]

Wrong. The sedan has 15ft cargo space and is an EPA midsize car. The hatch has 24ft cargo space and is an EPA large/fullsize.

[@t.k.morris]

I wish the sedan had a manual transmission offering!

[@redalert206]

I like the sedan version of the civic better, it just looks better to me that way but I see how the hatch is more practical if you don't have an SUV or crossover.

[@durklbar]

The sedan definitely looks better, but the hatchback space is pretty dope. You could sleep comfortably in that space!

[@letzrock1675]

Rear of the hatch looks way better than rear of sedan…hands down

[@darrennicholas860]

Joe as I told ya before 2023 civic i bought was my first I love it I’m ready for my 2024 let me know when there coming out in ready a real fan

[@musamusa2961]

Thank You Almighty God I will buy one for myself

[@wbwayne8887]

I personally would rather have the Civic Touring Sport Hatch over any Integra. I think the proportions are better.

[@xp50player]

The Civic hatch lift-over height is lower too.

[@wbwayne8887]

@@xp50player Even better.

[@TheMotoChick9]

I'm not a fan of the outside body style. I still have my 2016 Civic and so many of us still love the style. Love the interior tho.

[@xp50player]

Fake news on the bigger brake rotors. Only the Si has an inch bigger, and the Type-R has 2 inches bigger. That heckblende taillight (look that up in your Funk & Wagnals) is a premium feature these days and provides a brake light unobscured by any potential spoiler choice.