2023 Honda Civic Hatchback review // Still a good buy?

[@ranthony2714]

Two years ago, i purchased a new Acura Ilx. If I was to buy a civic today for the list price of my ilx, I would have to buy a civic ex sedan. This is a massive price bump in 2 years. If I was to buy the Acura vehicle that replaces my ilx, you are looking at 45,000.

[@bill7481]

The challenge with the Civic is not the car itself but Honda dealerships. Here in the northeastern US, many dealerships charge a premium over MSRP. Spring 2022, a family member wanted to buy the SI, there was a premium over MSRP. Same thing with the manual Touring hatchback. She found a great deal on a Mazda 3 Premium, black with red interior, with the manual transmission. Now she's grateful that those Honda dealerships drove her away.

[@michaelsciortino7112]

Same situation here. May 2022 went to Honda for a sport hatchback and they wanted $629 per month w 3000 down for a civic. Went to Mercedes not even 5 mins later and got quoted $628 with 3,000 down for a well equipped c300. $1 cheaper I was laughing. Didn’t end up purchasing anything because I wasn’t in dire need of another car, just wanted it to be a strictly commuter car, but I ended up using my Mazda as a daily and commuter.

[@Jumpman67]

I was quoted 20k over the MSRP for a Type-R. I hope the dealerships that do this, get what's coming to them.

[@Blank00]

It's really sad. These markups are not Honda's fault because dealerships are franchises that do whatever they want regardless of what Honda recommends, yet Honda will suffer a reputational dent and lose business for this.

[@SmartPracticeSuccess]

I bought a brand new 2023 Honda Civic Touring sedan in January 2023. MSRP was $31.6K USD and they tried charging me $4K additional dealer markup. Ha ha! I said no. They ended up charging me MSRP but with taxes, fees, etc., it ended up being $35K OTD. Definitely pricey for a Civic, but I desperately needed a new car (I’d been driving my ‘02 Civic LX for 18 years). The new Civics are really beautiful. I’m super happy with mine.

[@bill7481]

@@SmartPracticeSuccess Congratulations! That’s a serious upgrade-from your generation to the current one and from a base trim to the top trim. Getting into your new Civic probably feels like getting into a different class of car. Enjoy the many miles to come!

[@katanamast279]

I can chime in on GTI ownership. I currently still own my 2015 MK7 GTI DCT in black. It has been my daily since I bought it with 5 miles on it. I am currently at 260k miles and still running strong. All I have done is regular maintenance such as oil changes, transmission fluid changes, Spark Plugs, FIlters, etc. I am just now about to do the water pump/thermostat change which is way past the expected mileage. Every GTI owner will eventually have to do this as it is a common problem. Otherwise my car has been super reliable and fun to drive everday and on long trips. I also have a tune since 70k miles and never had any issues. Cheers!!!

[@Brian-jv8iy]

Yeah, this is standard German car experience, those are reliable, it will do 500k with only maintenance no problem

[@lucabrasi5070]

VW’s are garbage. Ask any dealer mechanic and they’ll agree.

[@imanwan2861]

Did you change any strut and rear shock?

[@katanamast279]

@@imanwan2861 Nope. Suspension is still good. No bouncing or anything

[@Noneofyourdambusssiness]

😂😂 You guys crack me up. Love when you leave in some of the funny outtakes. Keep up the great work.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you, glad you liked it!

[@HerNameWasMcGillShe]

Such a wonderful alternative to the SUV craze. I got as low as 6.43 l/100km and it had so much space, performance and utility.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Oh that's great to hear, thanks for sharing!

[@edvinkissel3377]

That's a lot! I'm getting 5.5l with crazy winter temperatures and 4.2l at hot summers. Rav4 hybrid as a car.

[@ivalterbaptista2305]

@@edvinkissel3377 lol I was about to say the same. Not too much more expensive than the civic too.

[@jayhut2262]

I get 7.3l/100km I'm my 2006 civic ex that I bought new in 2006. It cost 23k and has been paid for since 2011

[@darthvader1417]

my 2020 civic lx gets 5.5l/100km

[@derfandme]

The Civic hatchback has an amazing amount of room for 4 people and all their stuff. The GTI is nice and fun to drive but I keep my vehicles for a long time and the GTI will not be as cheap to maintain. I retired in my early 50's and one way I did that was buying reliable vehicles not money pits. In 37 years I've owned 4 vehicles. Reliability is my main criteria.

[@mikeymyke]

A car is no longer enjoyable once you're shelling out tons of money to fix it. There's a funny video on the Redline Reviews channel, this channel also reviews cars. He did a review on the GTI, and funny enough, the car had a check engine light on it, and the reviewer was confused as to why it's showing up so early.

[@Blank00]

GTI interior is also ergonomically challenged with the capacitive crap

[@SmartPracticeSuccess]

Reliability is also my main criteria. (Longevity and safety are part of that top criteria also.) I just bought a brand new 2023 Honda Civic Touring sedan in January 2023. Previously, I’d been driving my ‘02 Civic LX for 18 years. (Yes, EIGHTEEN years!) So I was waaay overdue for a new car. It was either another Honda Civic or a Toyota Corolla, although the Civic is my first choice. Toyota didn’t even have any stock (and still doesn’t) so it was a moot point. 🤷‍♀️ The new Civics are just gorgeous cars. I’m super happy with mine!

[@mikeymyke]

@@SmartPracticeSuccess Corollas are also quite boring styling and design wise. Also the legroom and hatch size are smaller, its less practical than the Civic. Civic won this generation war for now

[@derfandme]

@@SmartPracticeSuccess can't go wrong with a civic. Good choice. I would go with the 2l as i don't need or like turbos.

[@Mikehunt3]

Bought my civic touring here in the US for 29,000k. That was of course after a week of talking with the dealership and walking out. They yeah called me back and said we’ll make it work for 29k. I pay about $500 a month for 60 months and I’m very happy! The Bose system, and the full digital dash makes a huge difference

[@obhatti]

Great review and laughed so hard at the "blooper reel" - glad you guys left that in!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! We were terrible! lol!

[@AznfoboiXO]

Proud owner of a 22 sport touring hatchback with 6mt, same colour as in the review. I've received so many compliments about the car from friends and colleagues that own BMWs and Audis etc. It is also the global body style of the civic in europe and asia where it competes well against entry-level german competitors (1 ser, a3, a class) It is a great all rounder that provides me all the latest tech features that I would want while sipping 87 octane regular gas and cruising at 130kph on the 407 effortlessly all while letting me row my own gears. Also handles itself very well up to 70-80% of the limit and has an unflappable ride quality for this class. Its space is great for those unexpected IKEA AS-IS finds and has a backseat where I can put people I actually like. Yes its more expensive but also feels more exclusive within the Honda line up, i think i see 1 hatchback for every 10+ sedans where I am and less so the sport touring with 6MT. If you want value, stick to the sedan. It has replaced the Accord Sport as the go-to attainable fun to drive 99% capacity car, for around $35k msrp. My only issues with the car is the auto-stop start on by default ( should not be like this on a manual car) and the lack of driver lumbar support.

[@raven4k998]

how many cold cranking amps dose the 12 volt battery do? if you know what the car comes with

[@POVBaker]

I have a this exact car and absolutely love it. I’ve never once regretted my decision. I got it for 35k before the 2k price bump which was nice. Suv with similar features will run you over 45 so I don’t see a problem with the price for the top model.

[@Spanede]

I am contemplating the 2024 sport touring cvt for commuting on the 407/401, how's the suspension, firm? How's the fuel economy if you keep up with traffic on 407, if u know what I mean?

[@joelh3637]

Will be picking up this exact trim next month. I do agree with the price and trim structure being off base. However, this just nails all the things I'm looking for in a vehicle. I want something that is: -fun to drive -has a nice interior (I feel its almost on par with the Mazda, better than the GTI/Corolla) -has a good predicted future reliability and cheaper repairs (much better than VW) -good resale value down the line (unlike with mazda and hyundai) -generally a small footprint for easier parking while maintaining good 2nd row room + be a hatch -great MPG for its class

[@raven4k998]

but she said smudge🤣

[@jp93309]

In the end I want fun AND reliability so def leaning toward Civic. I’ve been burned with past VWs in my life.

[@2Kriss2Kross]

I have a year with my white ‘22 Sport Touring, previously had a ‘19 Sport Touring. This car is leagues better than the last gen and the current Elantra. Feels very European in solidity, driving dynamics, and interior quality. Best selling car doesn’t always mean best car.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

Love Andrea laughing at Zach at 13:20 on pricing, bit im with Zach. I'm a Honda fan who would love to buy the civic hatch with the manual, but pricing is absurd.

[@dstevens518]

I am frugal with a capital F, but having driven both Hondas and Toyotas through the years, I'd splurge for the Civic model I want and know I'll amortize the maintenance costs over time. Less headache, more fun, all worthwhile in the end.

[@rdyardie]

This is an excellent review. My grandson in Oklahoma has a Civic a few years old. He installed a better shifter in it over the Christmas holidays. I asked him why bother, . . . Honda has had one of the best shifting manual transmissions for eons. He had me drive it after it had the new shifter installed. I did not like the button emergency brake. I might get used to it but I liked the pull emergency on the console. Keep up your reviews. They are appreciated. By the way, I agree with your reliability comment about the 2.0 L engine.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you so much, really glad you enjoyed the review!

[@davidp.4727]

$40 K for a Civic is completely ridiculous. C’mon Honda, get serious .

[@Paa375]

I remember when a civic use to cost $20,000 what a joke prices or vehicles are insane you now have be rich to buy a car

[@littledovecitydust]

If you have walked into a Honda or Toyota dealership in the last two years, you'd know the reason for the price hikes. Talking about the wait list wait time in terms of years.

[@chrislim7976]

It obvious to me the Canadian market doesn't matter enough to Honda. They are already behind the Koreans as a value car and selling $20K Civics in Canada isn't a sustainable business. Honda makes no apologies or cares there will be less Civics in Tim Hortons parking lots.

[@BrianJR01]

After delivery and taxes, this top model is $45k in my province. Then add on whatever dealer markup crap. Looks like my current 2012 Civic will be my last.

[@benz9063]

For 40k I might as well buy a Lexus.

[@tomhockman6267]

The option to not get blind slot monitoring is due to a parts shortage. Many Accords and CR-Vs don’t have BSI due to this shortage.

[@lawrencemitchell5983]

I'm a Mustang and Mazda fan and current owner......but my GTI was probably best all around practical performance car I've owned....and it didn't attract attention in white, but was frankly unbelievable at speed.

[@charlottetownspud7903]

i just got my 2023 gti 40th Anniversary edition a month ago. Fun ride!

[@kellingtonlink956]

I like Honda Civics. In the mid-90s I bought a very well used first gen CRX as a 2nd car, I absolutely loved it. It was an upgrade from my 1979 cream coloured VW Rabbit diesel - which I thought looked like a first gen GTI… it didn’t. What I really wanted was a new(er) Honda Civic 2-door hatchback. But I could not afford one (closer to $15,000 vs $600!). Now that I’m a well established married man of many years… I still cannot find myself affording one at nearly $40,000! I suppose the more things change, the more things remain the same. So nowadays… I’d just buy a slightly used GTI and enjoy a splendid holiday with the difference (Portugal?). Thanks for the video.

[@devastator_1985]

Only 16 seconds into the video an i already like her the moment she said you know what I miss manual transmission

[@King_Jab]

No it's not just Canada. Honda is marking up everything in the USA. Like a flat 5000 on all trims on the civic

[@limitedreach4446]

If it wasn’t for supply chain issues, the Civic would still be the sales leader and is on track to regain the title this year since it’s supply chain issues are being resolved.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

I think we need to stop blaming supply issues. I think this is honda taking the profit as long as they can. Enough with the excuses.

[@limitedreach4446]

@@bassandtrebleclef If it wasn’t the supply chain issues, why are Honda sales back up this year? Make it make sense. Going by your logic, Honda sales would be on a continuous decline, right?

[@arsalan825]

No one in the right mind would pay 35K+ for a Honda Civic. A well equipped Sentra is 25K. Toyota and Hyundai are coming with Hybrid powetrain for under 32K. Stupid rip-off pricing from Honda.

[@CC-wm1yq]

@@arsalan825You’re 100% right. Honda is not that stellar to command those kinds of prices.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

@@limitedreach4446 sweet strawman. Have a great night!

[@JoKIA_-100]

40 years ago I bought a brand new 1984 Civic S hatchback for 6800 bucks in the US. In today’s dollars it translates to a little over 20,000. I purchased a 2024 EX-L for MSRP of just under 30,000 last month.

[@dougshugarts3105]

I hope you'll review the Civic hybrid when Honda starts selling it in North America. Reviews from Europe and Australia have been glowing. That's the Civic I might buy.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Yes, we will for sure! We are both looking forward to that one as well.

[@A3A4Tom]

Civic is still a great car. Its just Honda needs to offer base LX trim on all of its models. Cause its not everyone need an EX or Sport, LX is what most consumers wanted. That's why Toyota's LE trim, which can added option package, is a more viable marketing decision. I have a 2018 Civic Sport hatchback. My parents drive a 2019 Civic LX sedan. The LX got everything they really wanted and needed. They even find some of the features redundant in my Sport.

[@Just-a-guy926]

I like my 22 Civic Touring when you get in the car for the first time you instantly know where everything is and how it works. The mess treatment on the dash is attractive but the gloss black trim is a dust collector and sometimes with the sunroof open the sun can glare off it. Reliability has been good but the climate control system had to be replaced at less than 3,000 miles. If you like black interiors that will be the case in most Honda vehicles . Hopefully the hybrid will be on sale soon Honda said it would be available after the CR-V/Accord. In normal driving conditions you will hardly notice the CVT.

[@markaruski]

Nice! A temporary spare tire! I can't wait until the Civic Hybrid comes out and you two test drive that one!

[@Bonjurro]

Here here! On the black. The birds know exactly when you’ve washed it.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Oh do they ever!

[@shahrukhbakar3248]

Wish you guys would review the base LX hatchback with the 2.0L NA K20C2 engine and 6MT. This is going to be the clear winner in terms of long-term reliability - the engine has been in production for years with proven reliability, timing chain, port injection, no high-pressure fuel pump, and no oil dilution issues and no turbo. You guys did briefly mention this aspect of the range but very few if any reviewers care about this aspect of car ownership.

[@ryantyniec1081]

Excellent points. I am trying to get that exact car. Unfortunately you can't get the lx with a manual, you have to step up to the sport trim to get the 2.0 and 6 speed. In the US it is MSRP for right around $27k. Honestly I'd be happier with the higher profile wheels and tires the lx seems to have, I really only care about comfort.

[@canpin]

Zach, youre living the life - car, travel & beautiful lovely wife.👍

[@etacarinae5558]

Honda Civic Hatchback....rich mans car

[@sammyt3514]

I get what Zack is talking about in terms of black cars and I say the same thing to myself whenever the time comes to replace my black car, but I always end up getting another black car, lol! That color is just the best as it hides the body panel gaps and makes the car look like it was made out of one sheet of polished black steel! I wouldn't buy that Civic hatchback, in particular, in any other color; it looks mundane otherwise imo, especially in lighter colors. Aesthetics beat practicality for me I guess.

[@kabbykabby3370]

I heard the release of a model without blind spot monitoring was a result of a lack of availability of that component and people getting tired of waiting for their new car.

[@SCraig-Handsome]

That would make sense

[@Flying-Fox19]

Realistically for rear passenger space, the front passenger seat should be adjusted so the person behind can get more leg room. Nobody in their right mind would set the seat all the way back. I was at the Toronto auto show earlier this year and found these cars with the worst rear room. Toyota Corolla Hatchback and Lexus UDX. Small CUVs like the Kona, Seltos and Kicks were even pretty spacious back there. I am 5'7 so not very tall also. The Corolla Cross with my driving position had more room for the rear despite many reviews showing it looked pretty tight back there. For someone 7 feet tall yes but you should be looking for larger vehicle. Happy trails.

[@parsatayebi]

nah when i drive i have my seat all the way back because its more comfortable for me. im also “only” 5’8 isnt much of a problem because i drive an SUV right now but it will be with this civic

[@Flying-Fox19]

@@parsatayebi I was referring to sitting on the passenger side not as a driver dude. You're not that much taller than me but when I sit as a passenger in our car, I actually don't like to slide the seat all the way back even though I could. It just feels weird being so far back from the dash. I want to touch and have access to the buttons lol. I've never done this in any car I've been in also.

[@sly9214]

I recently went to a Honda dealership for a civic, they told me there is a shortage of chips for the blind spot monitoring, that is why some models are starting to come without, otherwise this would make no sense to shave 500$ on a 35-40 000$ car.

[@ErictheRN]

I liked that old Honda Accord Wagon parked on the side street; definitely a great classic!!!

[@iana36s]

Honda is clearly not concerned about selling the cheapest vehicle. To be fair they do provide outstanding engineering and long term structural rigidity. Market share is a thing of the past. The measurement is return on investment.

[@dfk09]

As a Golf GTI owner, I'm envious with the size of the hatch. The mk 7.5 GTI was close to perfection, minus the hatch. The mk 8 is another story. I don't understand the trend with these cars without map pockets behind the driver seats. It looks so cheap and unfinished.

[@Bonjurro]

Another thing I’ve noticed and i[ don’t know if it is across all manufacturers but Honda charges more for a manual. It used to be you’d save maybe $1k if you took the manual option.

[@twotrackjack2260]

Solid and detailed review. Elantra wins my vote over this, Honda has lost its mind with pricing. Cvt auto is also a huge negative.

[@Blank00]

Elantra so has CVT

[@twotrackjack2260]

@@Blank00 Not the one I would consider buying, elantra n

[@Blank00]

@@twotrackjack2260 Elantra N does not compete with the CVT equipped Civics. The more direct rivals are the SI and Type R, neither have CVT. CVT equipped Civics compete with CVT equipped Elantras

[@twotrackjack2260]

@Blank I'm well aware of all that. In my shopping, it's the only comparison I care about. Not my fault Honda won't put a decent automatic into anything but the '18 - '22 accord touring or sport.

[@DarkMatter727]

Just bought a 24 sport, went CVT kind of wish I went MT but being in Florida traffic I didn’t want to deal with it. I love my car though. Its got so much.

[@Billn1971]

Love the triple black on this. It looks sinister for a family economy sedan. My suv is black with medium ash gray inserts/ 2 tone. I don't mind the slighlty extra effort to keep her "clean". This is my 4th black vehicle I've owned.

[@andreaspencer9813]

I love a black car, but we are obsessed with keeping our vehicles clean so it's just that added work. But if you don't mind it, a black vehicles always looks great when it's clean.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

I think it looks dirty. Zach is right.

[@sleepyintoronto]

My first car was a 1991 civic SI hatchback. No power steering, roll down windows, no radio, no AC, 108HP but it remains my all time favourite car and took me through high school, university and MBA. Total cost on the road was under $15k. I was a huge 90s Honda fan boy but since that time Honda totally lost their way. I want to go back to Honda, but their offerings are so lacklustre.

[@Jd-di1dj]

Great review as always guys! Honda Canada pricing out to lunch still.

[@waynewilliams1487]

A hatchback is the best of both worlds: the drivability of a car and the practicality of a SUV with the hatchback it should be called a “cartility”vehicle

[@hoodiepapa7344]

You guys should vlog your GTI purchase that would be interesting.

[@travelguy1564]

I own a 10th gen Civic Hatchback, LX, 6 speed 1.5 turbo - great car! I prefer the body style of the 10th gen over the 11th, just my opinion.

[@iana36s]

Funny I test drove the GTI and ended up with the Si. The Si allows me to confidently wring the car out where as the GTI left me with a disconnected feeling. I really wanted to like the GTI. If I had a do over I’d get the Integra A-Spec Elite trim so when I want to turn down the tempo I can.

[@fp5495]

This gen Civic already has a big recall on it for a major steering issue. Customers have complained that the steering becomes stiff for short periods while in motion making the car lose its composure. The steering power rack needs to be replaces. My friend's 2023 Sport Touring hatch was in the shop for over a week to get the steering power steering unit replaced. He's super pissed because he hasn't even had the car a full year yet. This affects even 2024s.

[@michaellacelle8591]

Beautiful car and will choose a Honda any day to anything else but that price is crazy .

[@barbz_zayne]

can we see an hrv vs civic hatchback??

[@danryan4137]

Most civics produced in Ontario go down the highway into the states. We get a very small allocation here. Thanks to the auto pact between our countries. So what’s leftover in Canada get hefty dealer markups, some dealers doubling the price of civic R’s.😢

[@mrmatthewgriffith]

Would you get the Hatch or Sedan? Why?

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

For fun, check what the MRSP on a new base 1993 Honda Civic was, You won't believe it.

[@Image1Nation]

31250USD is over 42300CAD and the Canadian market gets heated steering and heated back seats for 5k less before taxes. Also, Canadian dealers can’t up charge from msrp. I traded in my 2017 civic after 18 months to the same dealer for more than I bought it for.. with taxes and loyalty promotion I got over $7500 off my brand new sport touring. I still do wish it had AWD for the price.

[@tomdrummy4984]

Great car ! Great review !!! I would prefer this over the Hyundai 👍. Civic grew up over the years. 🙂 Is there really coffee in Zack’s cup ? Lol

[@andreaspencer9813]

There really is coffee in the cup!

[@dstevens518]

Yup, I was shocked the Elantra outsold the Civic, don't care about the price difference, it's butt ugly, not the same reliability, and Hyundai/Kia dealers are a nightmare. Best of luck to those buyers, they'll need it.

[@justforyoublue]

I think the blind spot monitoring is for what you mention at the beginning of the video. Inventory. Less sensors = faster off the production line. There are lines halting because of transistors, i imagine this alleviates thats.

[@nikcotsang9782]

Great video as usual. I do have a 2018 Nx. I want to trade it to Nx hybrid. However, Nx hybrid requires premium gas. Only 1 out of the 3 dealers told me Nx hybrid can be used regular gas. Can I use regular gas on 2024 nx hybrid? If yes, what is the impact on the vehicle, like engine or performance? Or should I trade to ux instead?

[@CoolsBreeze]

I still miss the Fit. That's a true hatchback.

[@stevewise1656]

That nine inch screen only actually shows about six inches of useable screen. Lots of dead black space.

[@vicp8772]

Size of the hatch. Check. Price now a days nope. Why the integra has no rear wiper? At least a manual loaded is still offered. Nice review folks.

[@Blackacreonfire]

Like me, you folks appreciate a manual transmission. You are also mindful of fuel economy. I'd like to hear some discussion on how the few manuals we have left are all getting significantly worse fuel economy than their automatic counterparts. I attribute at least some of this to the shorter overall gearing of manual equipped car. What's up with that? Why can't we have a manual and a nice tall top gear for maximum fuel economy?

[@larryaugsburger8452]

My last manual was on my 2010 Acura TSX, but I have also had manuals in Dodges and other Hondas. The MPG ratings for manuals always seem to be very pessimistic compared to what I get! I was seeing mid-30's on that TSX despite it being a 6-speed and turning close to 3,000 RPM at 70. It was only rated for 29 highway, and I did not baby it.

[@Blackacreonfire]

@@larryaugsburger8452 My last manual, a 2010 civic coupe exl, was never able to achieve it's rated economy. It sure felt like a taller top gear would have gone a long way to remedying that. True, a nice tall top gear would have meant practically no torque at ordinary highway speeds, but that's why you've got those other other gears. My V6 Accord coupe auto rolls down the highway at about 2,000 rpm, and often gets better fuel economy than that civic ever did.

[@dennisjones8906]

First here! I’ve been waiting all week! 🎉😊

[@andreaspencer9813]

Awesome, thank you!

[@mickeybrumfield764]

I can understand why they might not include the heated seats in the base trim in the U.S. but why do they not include the blind spot monitoring? Do the Honda people think we like blind spots in America.

[@marclangman4836]

Just look over your shoulder like the good ol’ days.

[@velocityvibezzz]

The best part of this review is that doggie at 15:10

[@stephanechamberland8486]

I see much more Corolla hatchback than the new Civic Hatchback ! I see way more Corolla 4 door than the new Civic. The golden days of the Civic are over I think.

[@GlennLaycock]

My black - it was so low on my colour choice it was not on the list - Elantra. There was not an enormous choice - but lava red and black is kind of what we ended up with after leaving a few times. I came in again to ponder and they had both washed up out front for me, which is a bad sign. So I said that I won't choose as what does it matter if I cannot afford it. So put in what should have been a reasonable offer and figured take it or not - if you were transparent it should be an okay we can live with that acceptance - but it just hit me - the black hides the grill and black wheels and a lot of the lines (I decided not to look at them as EVERY OTHER BRAND would go after the looks - please so confusing, overdone, vanilla look runs zero risk of ever going out of style - imagine saying that to a date right!). Just updated my WIRELESS computer for the second time - nail biting always, but worked flawlessly (while I waited for my takeout pizza order to be cooked).

[@jeffer1101]

This is a very good car, but it is pricey. If you really want a Honda, I'm sure you'll be more than happy with it, even if you're paying a bit of a premium for it. There are many other options out there in the $25-$40k range that may offer better options (in terms of space, features, price, etc) so it really depends on what matters most to you (and how you weight those in terms of importance). Lots of other good compact car and CUV options in the sub $40k range as this vehicle costs (in CAD) if you need more space. A few other options with AWD if you prefer that. Toyota has some hybrid options if you want better fuel economy. In summary, even outside of a vacuum, this is a very good car, just be sure it checks your boxes since you're paying a premium for it (which is fine if it's the best choice for what you want and/or need).

[@SmartPracticeSuccess]

Exactly! I bought the 2023 Civic Touring sedan in January. As Zach and Andrea say, it’s definitely pricey. (I paid $31.6K MSRP, $35K OTD in U.S.) But it’s a Honda! And it’s a really beautiful car. Honda has gone back to their design roots. I love the understated exterior and the semi-luxury interior. Someone else pointed out 1) Honda is moving upmarket and 2) they’re trying to appeal to more women in their 30’s-50’s with $$$ to spend on a car. I agree. I’m in that category and they got me. Yes, pricey, but I love it! It’s a gorgeous car and I’m super happy with it.

[@jeffer1101]

@@SmartPracticeSuccess nice. As long as you do your homework and make sure it's the right car for you, you will be happy, it's a great car. If you "settle" for it, you'll likely regret it. That said, Honda's typically have decent resale value (especially in today's market of limited availability) so if you did change your mind, it's still worth something on the used market.

[@SmartPracticeSuccess]

@@jeffer1101 Absolutely! Prices have gone up astronomically. Over $30K for a CIVIC??! That’s insane! I could have looked at other cars or gone down a few trims to save $$$, but I’m a Honda girl and am really stuck on the Civic. (Toyota didn’t even have any stock at all, so I couldn’t even test drive the Corolla if I wanted to.) Honda is moving upmarket with their cars now and have added a lot of nice features to justify their price increases. I chose the Touring model for specific reasons and yes, I would have been unhappy if I’d “settled” for anything else. I don’t normally buy the top/priciest option of anything, so I wondered if later I’d regret spending so much money. I don’t. It’s a gorgeous car and fits me well. I’m super happy with it. Best of all, I was able to pay cash, so no car payments! 🥳

[@lisabarnes6919]

I am going to buy myself a Honda Civic 🥰

[@marcelm5681]

I have yet to see a single Civic Hatchback on the road. What am i missing? Are they still making these? What are drivers buying instead? (CX30 - GS, CX5-GX, Corolla Cross LE FWD, Impreza Touring are all essentially the same price as Hatchback LX model)

[@SereneIceDragon]

Im in the US and am trading my 2014 Nissan Versa (had nothung but problems with that car) for a 2023 Civic Hatchback LX. Its more than my boyfriends Corolla cost him, but I think I'll be pretty happy with it. Pricing is just bad all around right now...

[@parrou3]

so, Any news please about oil dilution in Turbo engine? is it fixed in the new gen? do you have plz any feedback from owners ? you recommend to go with 2.0L naturally aspirated, but it is not powerful engine & too noisy,

[@Jeymez]

alot of people feel Honda played it too safe, while i can agree the Accord looks a little odd with the new grill, but it looks fine on the Civic. now the styling might have a old school look about it, but that's what made the Civic stand out. the previous gen styling did not age very well, especially if you get it in hatchback form. the Accord did look good with that grill, but the Civic did not. it's the opposite this time around, this time the Accord doesn't look as good with the new grill, but the Civic does. also look at the new Pilot and the CRV, they look great with the new grill.

[@preoksaha4504]

A couple more smudges would be perfect 😂 great review as always guys!

[@letsgo4834]

Zack is right: we’re in a car pricing crisis. It’s not much different here in the US. Cars which I had considered as my lease was in its last 12mo in 21 are now simply a fantasy. Likewise for used models I’d considered. It’s quite disappointing and doesn’t seem like it can hold this way.

[@kurtmartindale9294]

I know that inflation has increased prices. I have a 1993 Honda Civic Si I got new, still have it. Paid $18,000 plus taxes.

[@johntak3401]

When will the Honda Civic e-HEV that sells in Europe and Australia arrive in Canada?

[@catsspat]

I miss the days when Si was hatchback. I'm planning on buying something with manual transmission within a year or so to keep as a second car, before manual ICE cars disappear. I want a hatchback, but Type-R is too much of a car for me. And regular hatchback is missing LSD and Si seats. So unfortunately, I'm leaning towards an Si. I still got time, though.

[@artstar5994]

Better looking than the other civic. WHAT!!!! 37,000 dollar's!!! GET BENT!!!

[@andyhawkins7988]

when is the civic Hybrid coming to Canada?

[@timphillips4147]

This is a brilliant car Andrea and looks good in black too. Very stylish at the front and back together with a low sporty silhouette. Great black leather jacket too !

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you so much! Yes, it does look great in black, I really like the Civic, we own one, it's a good car. I did miss driving the manual in this one.

[@timphillips4147]

@Andrea Spencer Definitely is a car that's evolved over the years some iterations haven't always hit the mark, but this smoother lined version is just right!

[@10OF9OFBORG]

Awesome review Andrea! I think its a great car hat gives you awesome gas mileage. Only con is moonroof is not my favourite because it not bright enough in the cabinet. Also black is not my favourite because you can’t see this car in the dark. 😆 Great show Andrea. 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you, so glad you enjoyed the review! The Civic is a great car, there is no doubt about it, just getting pricey.

[@10OF9OFBORG]

@@andreaspencer9813 yea That’s one problem.

[@ranthony2714]

Enjoy many aspects of the current generation civic, less the elevated prices, lack of availability and strange packaging.

[@aurelianvoicu6413]

Which GTI trim would you say is the best value?

[@POVBaker]

All cars are expensive if you don’t want to spend the money get the bottom trim. For what you get with this too trim I see no problem with the price. It’s probably about 10k less than a similarly spec small suv

[@geirbalderson9697]

The Civic is rather low. Is it easy to access or do you have to contort to sit in it? Small cars appear to be uncomfortable in that manner.

[@TypeToSnipe]

It's not even about whether you have the means or not, at this point it's about the principle for me. I'd NEVER spend 40K on a civic, and I'll also never drive the base model of a car. This basically means I'll never be a Honda customer again. It's a shame because my first car was a 91 civic hatchback and it was a peppy little car, fun to drive. I'm loving my mid trim 2018 Elantra. Hasn't given me any issues and runs as smooth as the day I drove it off the lot 40K kms later. I realize I don't drive much but I have nothing but good things to say about the brand. I loved it so much that I convinced the wife to get a 2020 Venue. No regrets, we got good, reliable commuters with plenty of tech for well under 30K CAD all in. Brand new cars. Hyndai, Kia, Ford and Chevy all make affordable cars for the working class, and they can be reliable if maintained well, just like any brand (yes, I realize there are lemons and some brand have more than others, but the odds of getting a good car are still in your favour). If you're all about value for money like me, Honda is no longer a brand to consider in Canada. With the way the cost of living is increasing, affordability is a major selling point. They'll probably never be the best selling car here again.

[@SCraig-Handsome]

All the Civics are made here 100%, consumers buy them not leasing companies or corporations, that’s why Toyota sales are so high, taxis and rental companies. I’m on my 3rd CR-V. I’ve also bought Toyota and Hyundai. The thing about Honda is, maintenance… I’m constantly being asked to bring in my car for maintenance after the minmum mileage, not with maintenance minder. On average I get maintenance once a year with Honda, 2x per year with Toyota and Hyundai. Cost of Ownership is very low with Honda. My current CR-V is at about 75,000km, still on stock tires (although I did buy Winter Tires) and very minimal brake work. So yeah, I get that prices are going up and you could get a cheaper car than a Honda but the Cost of Ownership is so good with Honda… and they are built by Candians for Canadians. Interesting too that when there is a recall or engine issue, Canadians seem to be the 1st one to get their cars fixed. If you live in Canada buying a Honda has a lot of benefits

[@iyn1911]

So why did Honda drop the Fit?

[@quixomega]

If the Mazda 3 hatchback is a little small, there's always the CX-30. I went in to the Mazda dealership to buy a 3 Hatch and ended up with a CX-30 for the extra headroom. It was a couple grand more and the back seat is a lot more usable size as well.

[@UltimateTuner10]

I didn’t find the back seat of the trunk notably better in the CX-30 compared to the 3. They basically just gave the car a taller ride for old people

[@user-jo5mp5jk6o]

there really isnt that much difference betweeen the 2, i almost felt like the cx-30 felt more cramped in the back tbh

[@MeliorIlle]

It has over an inch more.@@UltimateTuner10

[@ghenry85]

I don't know if I just sampled omes with a harder suspension(I work at a car lot, and drive a mix of everything for work), but I found the new Civics to be surprisingly unforgiving over rough surfaces(pavement cracks and small potholes and such). My parents have a 10 Civic and that car soaks up bumps really well and is comfortable on even bad roads. But yeah, there are better value propositions in the small car space than a Civic.

[@Inquisitive0Minds]

Can't wait to see your hybrid Civic review...

[@azpr1.6]

Any chance at a 2023 Corolla Hatchback comparison?

[@fredf.3769]

There does seem to be a Honda premium. I have a CRV hybrid touring on order but it was worth the price in my opinion.

[@billbouldin2969]

Love you guys

[@andreaspencer9813]

Awe thank you!

[@Ryan-cf6lc]

Zack, have you asked Honda why they offer sport and sport b? Seems very strange! What is there reasoning?

[@GlennLaycock]

OTHER OPTIONS - Gosh, how about the Kia Forte 5. It often has the turbo too. I just do not know anyone with one - it was too expensive and not in stock when I was looking.

[@ayayoutuber]

Problem is old civic sport all were 180 hp. Even base. Now you only get it in top model. That means honda had made it worse

[@michaelsylvester7272]

Wow this a tough segment as the price sure went up But not matter I do like the exterior look as well as the internal look. Choose wisely

[@AP-oc2qw]

You say with the Mazda 3 you don't get the turbo that the Civic gets. True, but you get more horsepower and more torque with Mazda's normally aspirated base engine than you do with the more expensive turbo in the Honda, so who cares about the Honda's turbo. The Mazda 3 is less expensive, has premium materials, much nicer interior design, and as always, is much better looking outside - whether the hatchback or the sedan. And remind me which car is the 2023 AJAC winner? The Mazda 3, certainly NOT the Civic.

[@hansendy3708]

The eHEV version in Europe effectively makes both the turbo and NA version obsolete.