Is the 4090 actually worth it? RTX 4070 Ti Super vs RTX 4090- The Ultimate Comparison!!!

[@SUBCHVRGE]

upgraded from a 2060 to a 4070 ti super and i couldnt be happier with my decision

[@m.poppins4843]

thinking about making the jump from 1060 myself

Upgraded to a 6700 XT from a GTX 960 2GB... :D

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

i went from 1060 3 gb to it

[@masterlee1988]

@@Leonardo.ohime.i That's an insanely huge upgrade!

[@kjellbeats]

why do y'all never consider amd gpus? loving mine, zero driver issues or whatever ppl are talking about

[@marsMayflower]

went with a 4070ti super... it runs everything I throw at it just fine. can't justify spending 1800 bucks on a GPU. Money is worth more than pixels, to me.

[@iamspencerx]

Yeah the 4070ti screams money over pixels

[@TheSelleycopter]

100%. I went with a 4080 because the 4090 costs almost $1,000 USD more where I live. With framegen + DLSS, hoping to be able to use the card for atleast 8+ years on 1440p ultrawide.

[@TooBokoo]

@@TheSelleycopter Honestly, the 4080/7900XTX are the sweet spots right now, which is sad to say because they're both $900-$1000 cards. But, spending an extra $800+ on a 4090 for an extra 20%-30% depending on the title just isn't worth it, whatsoever.

[@TheVanillatech]

@@TooBokoo 7900GRE / 7800XT are the sweet spot I think? Depending on what screen youre driving (refresh rate / resoultion). Both around £500-£550 and more than capable cards, unless you just HAVE to run games in 4K native. If I wanted anything "better" I'd fish around for a new or refurbed 6950XT for around the same price. No chance I'd ever pay over £600 for ANY graphics card. And I'm *old* so I got money in the bank! :D

[@An-intricate-man]

@@iamspencerx4070 ti super* 4070 ti is a bad gpu

[@NORTHERNLIGHTSCUSTOMPCSE-fx4mk]

stop apologizing for your kid's man you have a great channel and you have kids they are just being kids if people do not understand they should not be here this is the most informational channel I have found

[@albertforline9175]

He said deal with it. He was not apologizing

[@DMTEntity88]

Stop glazing

[@falcon6329]

I remember when a gtx 1070 used to be called a high end gpu

[@crazedhark5200]

still rocking mine lol 1070 ti xD

[@brunoutechkaheeros1182]

10y ago, maybe, but the future happened :)

[@b-ranthatway8066]

Upgraded to a 7900xtx from a 1070. Should be arriving today. Never had RT, so it's not as important to me, but the 7900gre and 78(9)00xt are at great prices 👌 (was even considering getting a 7700xt for a high-end 1080p and mid 1440p.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

@@brunoutechkaheeros1182 is it just you or all people lazy these days ? 1070 isn't even 8 years old literally could've googled that in 5 seconds.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

@@crazedhark5200 that was a good card.

[@neilstack4194]

20.50 Dan " Honestly, it's the internet!!" A gr8 roundup of games Dan, love the romper stomper background effects too. Good job

[@rem_0]

Over 40% of the scene budget went on this sfx ☝️

[@danielowentech]

Thought I'd give channel Members early access to this one since I'm done making it, but I don't want to post two videos on the main channel feed on the same day.

[@caxacar8901]

wow

[@b-ranthatway8066]

I wanted to go with a 4090, but the power connector issues turned me away. (The price as well) For what the best can get you, there should be zero issues. Period.

[@briank3754]

There are no issues, just plug the cable in properly and it will work fine . Don’t use those stupid angled adapters. I’ve had a PNY Verto and now the MSI Liquid Suprim X and they work fine. 18 months of heavy usage and overclocking with Flight Sim in VR on the Varjo Aero. Trust me the 4090 is getting pushed to the max and performing beautifully.

[@daedalus6433]

@@briank3754 Meanwhile the normal PCI-E connector never had this issue. Cope

[@jasonb110]

Calm down @daedalus6433… there are plenty of 4090s in existence that HAVEN’T set on fire. My 4090 Verto has never had a problem as well. Stop telling people to cope that actually have the product without issues.

[@SamiJuntunen1]

​​@@briank3754There are still lots of cases with proof that cable was connected fine and it melted. No adapters. Still only 0.1% of users or less but loosing 2000e gpu sucks! At the 4000 series launch 4090 was the only good gpu imo for people like me with 3080. I skipped it though.

[@daedalus6433]

@@jasonb110 I will trust Gamers Nexus over you, thank you.

[@sturmim]

Oh... you made a video about me and my buying-history of the TiS. That's nice. Which honor! 😀

[@boaether]

The 4070 Ti Super is such a good card. Great value in the Nvidia GPU stack. 67% of a 4090 for a bit less than 50% of the price (at least in the EU). At 1440p the 4070 Ti Super is killer.

[@Neovalen]

Just finished the video and I think he is spot on with today's comparison. My opinion (as a current 4090 owner) is that if you want the best of the best, wait for the 5090 at this point. If you bought the 4090 near launch (like I did) then it was 100% worth it for the enjoyment I got out of it for the entire generation.

[@lk5388]

90 series cards should be bought at launch. You will only have foreseeable 2 years of dominance until the sucessor will supersede it.

[@Lattestone671]

Well said, I own 3080 ti and want to just get the best now. I will wait for the 5090 even though I want the 4090. It's better to wait at this point in time.

[@Disco_Tek]

Its also use case. I mess around with AI image and video generation quite a bit and the 4090 is completely worth it. Depending on price I may even go up to the 5090 once we see what the VRAM limits are to it.

[@PanthalassaRo]

​@@Lattestone671Yep same GPU I'm considering upgrading to AM5 and get a 50 series card somewhere next year.

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@lk5388Facts especially with them being so huge and taking up a lot of power.

[@thescouselander5531]

I've got the 4070 Ti S in my rig which I use with a 1440p monitor and it easily handles everything I throw at it. The 4090 would have been serious overkill for me at least.

[@groenevinger3893]

do you know how computers work? 🤔

[@thescouselander5531]

Yes, I do but, so what?

[@cronos4267]

I agree. I went with the 4070 ti super too. I couldn't justify spending the money for a 4080 super or a 4090. Crazy prices.

[@TrinoDR]

Glad you made this comparison I've been thinking about downgrading my 4090 to something similar, built a media center for another room with a 4070 in it and the performance isn't bad at all even @ 4k I find there's always a combination of settings to make things look great!

[@prashantmishra9985]

What do you do for a living?

[@Dionyzos]

I went all the way down from a 4090 PC to a Steam Deck and I'm gaming more than ever.

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

This is an interesting take I've never heard before , what made you do this and how did it turn into helping you game even more and without regret? I'm curious..

[@Natzawa]

That happened to me with my 3090 for a while. But it only lasted a couple months. Then went back to gaming on my desktop again. I don’t mind gaming on my tablet though. The screen is larger than the Steam Deck and I get more FPS on my tablet VS the SD. I just stream my games from my PC to it with almost no latency.

[@H4GRlD]

I also have a 3090, been gaming less and less but the Deck gives me my most gaming enjoyment nowadays. I'm working from my desk the whole day, so I just don't want to spend even more time sitting there, being able to play something while moving even just one room away is really nice.

[@Dionyzos]

@@fawkkyutuu8851 I was very curious about the hype and I love trying new tech gadgets so I bought one to see what it's all about. It's hard to explain why I enjoy it so much more. Having such a small device that can play everything, everywhere, while only consuming 15W of power is just fascinating to me. Throwing thousands of dollars and 500+ watts of power at a game when you can experience it with a 500$ 15W device seems kinda... wasteful? Sometimes less is just more :) And also, being able to just press a button and immediately be back in the game that I left the day before is a game changer. I heard people call it the backlog killer and that absolutely rings true for me as well.

[@KarlParl]

Why don't you just stream from your PC to your steam deck with sunshine/moonlight?

[@kathrynck]

Made the switch to 4k, and got a 4090. Do love it. but it's definitely very "enthusiast tier", financially. I would recommend 95% of people should probably look more at a 4070 Ti Super & 1440p.

[@clinten3131]

Great to see you are happy and your kids are happy. Great content as always.

[@MetalFreaken007]

great video! i'm saving up like crazy till march, to get new gpu combo with 7800x3d 64gb ram! can't wait to see what the new gpu deliver in performance!

[@HanSolo__]

When 4090 is talking about its own price: "You would be better off using such money to replace the engine in your motorboat or to drop your shitty bike and buy a proper motorcycle"

[@groenevinger3893]

😂

[@electricant55]

proper motorcycle for under $2k, suuuuuure

[@Natzawa]

My 3090 still holding up so gonna wait until the 5090 or 6090 comes out. Still great for VR too.

[@michaelthompson9798]

I got my RTX 4090 at launch and it’s been a great gaming and production GPU. I think thou were going to need to see some real performance advancement by GPU manufacturers over the next couple generations to see the acclaimed graphical benefits touted by Nvidia in gaming.

[@TheVanillatech]

Nvidia are far more focussed on AI right now, than discrete gaming GPUs. Far more profit it in for them.

[@Moonbogg]

Got a 4070Ti Super for my valve Index. It felt like the only choice for me really and it's great.

[@DELTA9XTC]

19:43 interesting, 4090 has a massive 60% lead here and this is when it draws 430 watts of power. In all the other games that came before, I think it only drew like 350-380 watts tops, usually around the 330-350 watts range even. Usually the power limit of a 4090 is at 450 watts. Its weird, that it didnt get fully used in the other games, maybe they were all a little CPU limited, even at 4k? and Resident Evil is the first of those games that doesnt limit the CPU so it lets the 4090 to reach its full potential, thats why it is able to draw the 430 watts and come close to its 450 watts power limit? thats also the first benchmark where the difference is so big, its freaking 60% faster. very interesting, interesting indeed.

[@FlumoniX]

Very interesting 🫢😂

[@TheVanillatech]

Averages just a 20-30% lead though. And for a 200% price tag increase. Terrible. TERRIBLE INDEED!!!!

[@squirrelsinjacket1804]

5090 will pry be pushing 600W unless they've made big efficiency gains

[@cosmic_gate476]

@@TheVanillatechlikely still at least 50%. 4090 was 65% faster than the OG 4070Ti

[@TheVanillatech]

@@cosmic_gate476 Did you watch the video? ffs 😝

[@themetalnoir2233]

Imagine the possibilities: with a 4070 Ti Super, you can build an entire PC for the same price as a standalone 4090! 💥💻🔥

[@liquidstudios-gamer]

4090 is a legendary card - i use it with 144hz 4K monitor Gsync and its incredible. I got mine at launch and could not be happier but caveat being i use it for Rendering as well as gaming, depends on your application otherwise i would not reccomend it at the price range.

[@fdiskformat5049]

My Asus Strix 4090 is more then 1 year old :) I got it on day 1 and totally loved it !!

[@Efsaaneh]

God i would totally buy a 4070 TiS if I had the money

[@aadams99]

Great channel. Awesome info that's badly needed. Thanks for doing this work.

[@RolanTHUNDER]

4070 Ti Super is very impressive considering its MSRP vs the hugely expensive 4090. Of course we'd all take the 4090 if cost was of no concern but since it is for most people, the 4070 Ti Super is a solid high performer.

[@shrimpwalk8230]

upgraded from 3080 to 4090, experience is insane.

[@emma6648]

Congrats want a medal?

[@hex.-lp5ii]

You must be​ mad. Dude is just happy of his upgrade, good for him.@@emma6648

[@B1u35ky]

@@emma6648 can i get a medal for my 4080? Or is that not good enough?

[@Crazical]

@@emma6648 yes please

[@y0Fiqqy]

@@emma6648 damn bruh you a hater, mans just shared his experience

[@HD-vv4wo]

I upgraded from a RTX 2070 to a 6800XT and i'm more than definitely happy with my decision!

[@Brodda-Syd]

Yes! In 2014 I bought a Dell 4K 32 inch monitor and since then I have been struggling to game at 4K with many sli builds. The RTX 4090 is the ONLY High-Refresh 4K gaming GPU

[@jeanrushmer8192]

4k existed back in 2014 🤯

[@Brodda-Syd]

@@jeanrushmer8192 It most certainly did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqazoZKvpr-ehLc

[@Brodda-Syd]

@@jeanrushmer8192 Yep. Dell UP3214Q

[@TheVanillatech]

@@jeanrushmer8192 I was playing Quake III in 1920x1440 back in 2003.

[@TheVanillatech]

It really isn't. It ccouldn't even hold 60fps in every game in 4K max settings on it's day of release, let alone NOW! That's 60fps. Not "high refresh". If you want to drive an OLED 120Hz screen at max refresh + fps, you're gonna have to upscale from 1200p or so. In WHICH CASE, you ain't running at 4K, are ya? You're running at 1200p. Which is less than 1440p. 4090 is the fastest GPU available. But it ain't a 4K card. It's like 20-30% faster than the XTX, but costs 200% the price! XD I'd rather buy me AND my daughter a 7900XTX EACH, and get a McDonalds with the change.

[@NCamico]

I feel super-lucky to have gotten a 4090 at MSRP. The persistent markup on that card feels unearned, but I suppose that's what a lack of technical competition does.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

The mark up coming from the semi pro "value" not so much from lack of competition.

[@Kryptic1046]

In my opinion, ultra high-end GPU's are rarely worth it this late in the product life cycle, at least not for what the 4090's going for right now. I bought a 4090 in Dec. of '22, but there's no way I'd buy one today unless it was discounted.

[@Krenisphia]

Yeah, IMO there is a small window to buy the top flagship card - within the first 10-12 months of launch. After that it's essentially mid-life and you should wait for the next gen, or buy something much better value-oriented. I got my 4090 in Oct '22 and I've enjoyed a no compromise gaming experience for nearly two years now.

[@Kevin_RSA]

Settled for 4070 ti super. In my country the 4090 is double the price of 4080. 4070ti Super was on a very good deal that I couldn't pass away. Great video.

[@AleksiJoensuu]

Just gonna say: Don't worry about the stomping. The kids deserve to play more than we deserve a clean soundtrack ❤ I'm glad you have've taken the "that's how we roll here" attitude. Cheers Daniel!

[@zaraizara2794]

Comparison of power consumption between NVIDIA and AMD GPUs, please.

[@amireffect6054]

Planning to upgrade from 970 to a 7900 xtx. Can't wait

[@realnamesnotgiven6193]

That will be orders of magnitude better

[@mikaela43523]

@@realnamesnotgiven6193 no shit

[@sasquatchcrew]

AS A 7900XTX saphhire nitro user , its worth it

[@TheVanillatech]

Why the flagship XTX? You use a 4K screen? I'd think the 7900GRE or 7800XT (at like 60% of the price of the XTX) are the best around right now. XTX offers worse price/performance than those. Cost per frame ain't the greatest with the XTX! ;)

[@WhiteWolfTechGaming]

On average, it looks like there's a 20-40 FPS difference (depending on the game and settings) but that price difference between the two is roughly $1,000 USD...

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

The price difference is insane , I want a 90 GPU to always be able to do 120 or higher natively no matter what , but looks like we have to wait till 6090 for that , till then the 70 ti super tier looks like the sweet spot.

[@TheVanillatech]

Not so long ago, 4090s were listed in the UK around £2300-£2600. At the same time, you could grab a Sapphire 7900XTX for £1150. Less than HALF the price, for 80% of the performance...

[@TheVanillatech]

@@RicochetForce According to Anandtech, over a 25 game benchmark, it's 78.8%. I rounded it up to 80%. But you can have 70% if you like! That gives the 4090 a 30% advantage ... at a cost of 220%! Do the math. The 4090 would have be TWICE as fast as it is in order to break even in terms of value. TO BREAK EVEN! Not even to WIN! Why are you even arguing? People who argue in the face of such BLATANT logic are the reason Nvidia sold 400% more 4060Ti 16GB cards than AMD has 7800XT's. Despite the 7800XT completely destroying the 4060Ti 16GB at the same practically the same price point. And the reason that Nvidia will charge $500 for the next entry level gaming GPUs.

[@TheVanillatech]

@@fawkkyutuu8851 Price difference is SMALLER now than it was for at least 15 months! For ,most of the 4090's shelf life, it was $2500 (or even higher) compared to $1100 for a 7900XTX. Literally 2.5x more expensive! For a 20-30% fps increase! Insane.

[@TheVanillatech]

@@RicochetForce Sure, but RTX is a gimmick. Always has been since Turing. Theres a reason that only 2% of ALL the games released on STEAM in the last 12 months have RT implementation, and 98% do not. It's a gimmick, it looks incredible in Quake and Quake II (30 year old games....), but as a "main feature" it's ridiculous to consider, and to argue about. AI is another non-starter for me. I'm a GAMER. I have been buying GPU's since the late 90's, to play VIDEO GAMES WITH. Not to encode videos, not to ask an AI to do my homework for me or to draw me a pretty picture or talk to me in David Attenboroughs voice. I play games. So I need lots of FPS in games, and because I'm not a PRINCE, I need it to cost a reasonable amount, in comparison to the competition. That's it. That's all. AI, power consumption, raytracing, etc. Couldn't care less. FPS please, at the best price possible. In that regard, 70% of the performance for less than 2/5ths of the price, is an absolute nail in the coffin done deal for me. And sorry but ... saying that a £900 GPU is overpriced, when it offers 70% of the performance (closer to 80% in reality) of a £2000 GPU, is just bonkers. Did you fail math? You should attend some of Daniels classes.

[@GKSchattenjaeger]

I have to wonder how the availability of the initial 50 series variants will be, and pricing. I imagine both will be absurd, in opposite directions.

[@SiqFix]

All you need these days is an RTX 4070 Super or RX 6800 XT/7800 XT

[@yazi2879]

my 6800xt can do ray tracing no prob in alan wake 2

[@SiqFix]

@@yazi2879 most games don’t even need ray tracing the only game I’ve use ray tracing for was Sword and Fairy 7 one of the most demanding games and without ray tracing the game doesn’t look as beauftiful

[@HOMELANDERRR0]

People said that about the 3060 ti couple years ago but now it’s useless because of 8 gb vram.. 4070 super will share the same fate at 1440p. 16 gb minimum is the way for 1440p

[@niebuhr6197]

​@@HOMELANDERRR0 it plays all games fine at 1080p. Your opinion is what's useless

[@masterlee1988]

@@HOMELANDERRR0 Yeah I'm definitely going at least 16GB for my next gpu.

[@TheVanillatech]

4090 was £2500 when the 7900XTX was £1100. The "is the 4090 worth it?" boat sailed a LONG TIME AGO! :D

[@1984Captive]

Yeah tech channels struggling for content right now. Rumors of next cpu and next Gen gpu perf. It's all beating a dead horse currently

[@TheVanillatech]

@@1984Captive Remember the desolate landscape of the Corona hardware draught? I contemplated cutting my wrists with a spoon.... But "4090 worth it" is scraping the barrel. Less than 2% of the worlds PC gamers can even afford it, and it's price/performance is practically the worst of any GPU EVER in history! XD

[@groenevinger3893]

would not spend money on the amd either.. i think amd cards are handicaped.

[@TooBokoo]

@@groenevinger3893 Depends on your use case. Assuming price is no object - If you are into Raytracing, then a 4090 makes sense. If you just want a large amount of vram and don't care about Raytracing, a 7900XTX would make the most sense. Different strokes for different folks.

[@offgridgaminguk]

@@TheVanillatech I do I sold my old R9 Fury X for £250, half of when it was brand new and it was 5 years old and it's AIO had been replaced with an air cooler, it was bonkers!

[@decade_of_dust8810]

I have an RTX 2080 Ti. Waiting for the 50 series to come out maybe in six months is not too bad.

[@PabloB888]

I have just bought a second hand 2080ti. It should be a decent upgrade over my GTX1080 and run PS5 ports (like TLOU1) without problems. At first I wanted to buy a new 4070tiSuper / 4080S now, but I would probably regret spending 800/1000$ a few months before the launch of a new generation. With the RTX2080ti the waiting for the RTX5000 series should be a bit easier.

[@decade_of_dust8810]

@@PabloB888 The 2080 is not that bad of a GPU. I honestly play a lot of older Steam games so for me it works great.

[@PabloB888]

@@decade_of_dust8810 The RTX2080ti just arrived but it's damaged. The GPU clock is stuck at 1350MHz and I cannot see the voltage settings. It seems that this 2080TI has been heavily mined and the voltage regulator has blown. I'm going to return this card and probably buy a new 4070ti Super.

[@GummyDoesYT]

I just like your videos before it even begins playing because I already know its going to be an informative, honest, well edited video thats factually based. Thank you for your time spent to make these videos, really good stuff. Cheers

[@briank3754]

Flight sim in VR with Varjo Aero is using every bit of horsepower that the 4090 has. It is a great card, but I can’t wait for the 5090.

[@goldenheartOh]

A friend of mine got a 4070 for his VR set & it was chugging due to not enough vram. He bought a 4090 and saw his vr needed about 13GB vram. He regrets the impulse buy despite it being super smooth.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

16GB VRAM seems to be the minimum for VR.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Ideally I would go for 24GB VRAM for future proofing but people can get away with 16GB VRAM

[@Xist-Mob]

I’m definitely an enthusiast, I started with a gtx 1070 in 2016 purchased purely for the Battlefield one release, I carried that warrior with me for 6 years with heavy overclocked usage. When the 30 series was teased and or leaked, the generational performance gains alone sold me immediately and I fought for my life to get a 3070 due to gpu production issues. I found a plastic sealed brand new 3070 on offer up for just about $30 higher than msrp (I honestly love these people who buy a couple, one for themselves and one to sell for a SMALL profit. I’m not talking about scalpers, I also got my og AirPods Pro after they sold out for exactly msrp on OfferUp). Two years later here I am with my 6 month old 4090, destroying anything I throw at it at 1440p 165hz, the raw horsepower is absolutely insane.

[@13_cmi]

Personally I don't have the money or desire to buy a super expensive gpu and the power connector is still a little sketchy. But it's a powerful thingamajig and will get the job done for anything and everything. I also don't want so much heat in my room that just sounds miserable.

[@EXOWill]

I run a 4070 and I love it for 1440p with max settings. I'm using a 32" curve screen @ 240hz and love how it's performing. But, I'm not real hard to please :)

[@FIVESTRZ]

The RTX 4090 is for the 4090/3090 buyer. They typically NEED its power OR don’t care about its price when deciding on a GPU

[@dreadful4684]

I only consider 90 cards in the current market because of VR

[@robbrg246]

I have a 4070 and in some vr games it feels like there not hitting the max refresh rate when I'm maxing things out in vr lol. So maybe your on to somthing

[@dreadful4684]

@@robbrg246 oh yeah most definitely. For most games that had VR built from the ground up even a 3070 is sustainable in most cases, but then you start to get into stuff like modded Blade and Sorcer, Skyrim VR, and even Minecraft where the VRAM and just straight power isn't enough anymore. Skyrim VR is my go to right now and that uses around 16GB alone. I use the Q2 and want minimum 90Hz shooting for 120Hz.

[@robbrg246]

@dreadful4684 yup. don't get me wrong though, the experience is still great

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

@dread I argee that the 90 cards would give the best future proof ability for VR. But the RTX 4070TI super is a great contender for VR as it has 16GB VRAM and most VR games use around 12GB VRAM anyways. Yes that could change in the future but honestly I think 16GB VRAM will be fine until 2028 at least for VR.

[@dreadful4684]

@@robbrg246 I dont doubt that, I really am just talking about having complete freedom. Though I agree the 4070 will last you a while for sure. PSVR2 boost things and the 4070 offers way more power than the PS5

[@jpcapone]

Hearing the kids in the background is soo funny. Keep grindin'!!

[@k5elevencinc0]

I'm getting a 4090 Strix for a big discount, but I was going to get a 4070ti Super.

[@MegaYummyjelly]

what about a 4070 ti super for 3440x1440? Is it an ideal fit?

[@KekAuch]

Is nice

[@RosinFlyFishing]

I'm upgrading from a GTX 770 to a new PC with a 4070 Ti Super. I am excited. 😂

[@TheZROLimit]

I have the 4070ti super why am I watching this lol

[@bigmatth23]

To see if you did the right thing ;) And you did!

[@richshrimp7680]

Always love these videos even if youve done a ton of them! Always entertaining for me lol

[@phantomzagreb]

Here it's nice to see how little RAM the games actually use, and Hardware Unboxed released a test today, and it doesn't know that there is allocated and dedicated RAM usage, and that the way it presents the comparison doesn't make any sense, because the only important statistic is dedicated RAM usage, which it doesn't have

[@RandomUnassignedYTHandle]

Nice video as always Daniel. Hope you kept the C1! (With its rolling scan motion clarity a "legendary" display to quote one of your fellow creators. Not a CRT, but versus blurry 60/120Hz without rolling scan absolutely night and day. Such a shame LG removed it from the C2 onwards. OLED and clear motion can exist. And is amazing.)

[@paulm6198]

If you're a DL researcher, then this comparison completely makes sense. Because all you care about is memory size per $. And for 30xx/40xx series there's actually only: - 3060 12 GB (good start) - 3080 12 GB (ok if cheaper than 4060 Ti 16 GB) - 4060 Ti 16 GB (ok for most models) - 4070 Ti Super (16 GB, much faster) - 3090 & 4090 (24 GB) Other GPUs are not worth it, as they don't provide any memory size improvements over models cheaper in their lineup.

[@SubtleHustle72]

I built a 4070 TI super w/ 7800 x3D two weeks ago and couldn’t be happier.

[@Hless421]

Upgraded from a 2080ti to the 4070 ti super and in CP 2077 went from playing at 1600x900 getting mid-high 20 fps with RT overdrive to 80-90 fps thanks to frame generation. With frame gen off the response is not very good. It's a game changer and the card cost a bit more than half of what I paid for the 2080ti.

[@gunslinger9786]

Happy with my 4070 ti super

[@ZeroZingo]

Got the 4090 on release day, will hopefully get a 5090 on release day. 4070 Ti super is obviously also a great card, and much much cheaper. Great video.

[@rodiculous9464]

I like this video, very helpful. I have been agonizing over wait or buy, still rocking a 1080 but i upgraded everything else. Your video makes an excellent case for a 4070 ti super. That way i can enjoy it for a year or more while all the price wars and scalpers and such settles down, then make an informed decision. With new gpu releases yeah it's "coming soon" but good luck getting one at msrp unless you go FE version and camp the buy button, then who knows what early adopter issues you might run into. Imagine being the guy that bought a 4090 and it fries your computer!

[@dragonman910]

If my next choice is nvidia, I'm going with the 4070 ti super. It'll have the horsepower and vram headroom to handle 4k gaming when I upgrade from 1440p. Amd will be the 7900gre.

[@azazelleblack]

You said "I don't know why you would buy a GeForce if you're not going to use DLSS." What, really? Ray-tracing performance? CUDA? Superior power efficiency? The excellent new lightweight NVIDIA App? Come on now.

[@dkindig]

I have a 7800X3D/4070 Ti Super and I've been experimenting with super resolution (4k render and downscale to 1440), with an eye on maybe picking up a 4k monitor. It lets me get a good idea what I have to do to maintain enough fps for a good experience and even downscaled there is a perceptible improvement in image quality. Looks like DLSS Quality is going to be my best hope. BUT, if I'm going to get a decent 32" OLED I need to be hitting 100 fps or so. This method lets me play with settings and see what I have to change to get desired results.

[@AchmasSmati]

I ended up getting a 3090 personally, it has 70s perf but enough vram to not be throttled

[@crispinalexander7550]

4080 would have been miles better, sorry

[@megadeth8592]

​@@crispinalexander7550you don't know what he paid...... Lmao

[@TheVanillatech]

@@crispinalexander7550 4080 £1000 .... 3090 probably around £500. Is the 4080 2x faster than a 3090? Nope. No it ain't. 3090 the clear winner.

[@crispinalexander7550]

@@TheVanillatech well 500 for the 3090 is indeed almost unbelievable. Here it is still 200 euros more than a 4080 smh.

[@TheVanillatech]

@@crispinalexander7550 Well looking on eBay UK, I see a dozen or more 3090's sold in the last 4 weeks for £530, £550, £520 etc. Seems like a good deal. Personally I'd rather have a 7900GRE for that price, but I'm only a game player thats all I used a PC for.

[@gorgono1]

i got my 4080 SUper for 700€ new and I am super happy with it.

[@ivann4512]

4090 is not a gaming card only,....it is worthwhile for productivity for sure

[@Johnny-tu6cf]

I've got a RX 6800 and am looking for a 4070 ti s or 7900 xt performance for my next card but can't justify their prices. I paid $325 for my RX 6800 (on par with the 3070 ti but with 16gb vram) 1.5 years ago and very happy with the card and performance.

[@TheVanillatech]

You're in no mans land really. Still have a capable card, but will have to spend a lot on a slight upgrade. Current market is terrible. 7800XT or 7900GRE would be the best choices, at around £510-£550. And sell your 6800. Or look for one of the last 6950XT's. I'm sure some will magically "appear" near to Black Friday. Or wait it out for a generation. You said you're happy with the card. Grab a 7900XTX next year when they bottom out in price! XD

[@extra4542]

came from a 2070 super to a 4070 ti super and I've been able to run everything at max settings well above 60fps (120+ fps on COD MW3) on my ultrawide 38" 1600p monitor. It's been amazing and I think the best value for most consumers trying to spend a little more if they care about having 16 VRAM for headroom potentially for games in the future. I just refuse to spend 1000+ let alone $2000 on a GPU.

[@wildonezgaming7630]

@danielowentech I was always curious since you are a hardware guy to see your take on cloud gaming particularly Geforce Now. It is really impressive and I wanted to see you do a comparison with native vs cloud and the pros and cons. Bandwidth, Latency, Price vs investment in a gaming rig, etc. Maybe it will lead you into a rabbit whole of experimenting. Thanks love your content as always!!

[@lukepearce6174]

Thank you for this!

[@Mikkey_Gee]

Great video for a 4070 ti super owner like myself! Good to know how it'll perform. 👌 Wanted to get a 4080 but my computer was limited with regard to card length, so had to go with a gigabyte 4070 ti super, which was the only card under 300 mm I could find. I love it. Cyberpunk in 4k RT overdrive w/ DLSS P + FG is a little rough I agree. I don't mind the latency too much as I'm playing with a controller. However there are quite a few artifacts. But if you can live without PT then it's all good. 4k high DLSS P with RT Ultra and no FG is above 60 with rare exceptions.

[@ysfex3sew]

I have a 4070tis now, but I initially bought a non super. It is actually a couple inches longer than the super. So long that it didn't fit because I still have a case with a drive cage. Until I Dremel sawed a piece out of the cage.

[@Aseapia]

I think the 7900 XT would be a better choice than the 4070 TI. That extra vram it's going to come in handy in a couple years.

[@csrgames233]

im all about efficiency definitely 4070 ti super is sure win for me.

[@adriankoch964]

Daniel, maybe an idea for a content piece could be: "how would X amount of money in a timespan Y be best spend: Buy 2 midrange cards (skipping a gen) or spend the same amount of inflation adjusted money earlier on a high end card?" For example, a 2080 in $699 in 2018. Now it is about as fast as a 4060 that cost $299. Would it have been better to have bought a 2060 then and now a 4060 for comparable total amount of inflation adjusted money? Also considering the potential value of an used card. This could work well as a sponsored piece with Jawa, for example.

[@TheGrace020]

Another great video! thanks Daniel! might get a 4070ti super or 4080 super or wait if i can hold myself 🤪

[@_Quint_]

I love how, of all people, Jayz2Cents predicted that the Ti Super would eventually become the buyer's pick and everyone's favourite - after its initial dismissal at launch by most short-sighted reviewers (including GN) as bad value. I surmised this outcome too, which is why I picked one up in the first week. Sometimes it's just about being wise.

[@Reluctant_Hero]

Yup, I invested in a 4070 Ti Super in April and I couldn’t be more happier with it. But I did try out the 4070 Super for a week… after that excellent experience I returned and put the money todays the Ti Super.

[@PURENT]

@@lancevance6346 I would have definitely bought a 4070 Ti Super a year ago if it was out, but it wasn't and I went with a 7900 XT. That card needed the 16 gb VRAM for it's price instead of the bare minimum 12.

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

Wise? It was dead obvious , the cheapest NVIDIA entry into 16gb of VRAM and extremely close performance to a grossly overpriced 4080 (and was a rebranded canceled 4080). It will be the same story for 5000 series , you either go 5070 ti super or 5090 , due to the leaked gigantic performance gap between 5080 and 5090 which will render the 5080 once again overpriced horrible value.

[@jeffreyrodriguez9009]

Just got a open box tiSuper for 720 feels like jackpot!

[@kinglew0773]

It’s honestly a decent card. I’m glad with what I have though, I scored my Gigabyte Gaming OC 4080 back in February for $850

[@xikirito_6809]

Went from a 2070 super to a 4070 and it wasn't enough for ultrawide 1440p, and now I have a 7900xtx and that's actually the sweet spot I think for price to performance in my use case.

[@bipinlamichhane4847]

I got the 4070 Ti Super graphics card, and I'm really happy with my choice.

[@HurricaneSparky]

This really just reinforces to me how cost-prohibitive an optimal 4k experience is in this current generation of hardware. You can achieve far higher graphical fidelity and framerate on 1440p for sooooo much less. I mean, go for 4k if you've got disposable cash, but I went with higher FPS on 1440p, running a 7800X3D and 7900 XT with a 240 FPS monitor.

[@ak33mc]

This is a great conversation topic. Well worth having with current prices

[@nighthawkgamingYT]

If you have a VR, you should benchmark Blade & Sorcery, it finally came out of beta!

[@gaminginstilllife9429]

i really wish you could do this for VR

[@IcyTorment]

I'd go a step further and say it would be nice if benchmarkers tested a better variety of scenarios in general. One or two VR games, a triple monitor flight sim, etc. instead of just one AAA FPS in single monitor config after another.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Great comparison. Have the 4090 but the Ti Super sounds like a decent option also.

[@guarnibl]

IMO, 21:9 1440p high refresh rate QD/WOLED feels like the sweet spot for me. For that, I think a 4070 ti super is ideal. If you want to run AAA games for years to come on 4k, well, that sounds like an expensive upgrade cycle to get into that starts at a 4090.

[@justevil100]

I moved from a 5800x / xfx 6800xt build to a 78003d / 4070ti super. I have been extremely happy with the upgrade. It's an excellent 1440p expirence.

[@kidmarcus_]

DANIEL OWEEEEN!!! DROP MORE GPU COMPARISONS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[@TryhardFlareOfficiel]

upgraded from a 2070super to a 4080 super , and its amazing

[@claxcz]

i was trying to go rog 4080 super and im looking it at 3.5k total and I’m thinking I could already run with 4090 at the price range and confirmed it by checking and configuring it by changing to different brand of gpu but its 4090. The only gpu that stables the price total was the 4070 ti super, even with rog brand, you’re only paying a premium of max 200 from all other 4070 ti super variants. whereas in 4080 super and 4090 from 4070 ti super you will be paying a premium of 400-500 & 1k to 1.2k respectively for rog. So 4070 ti super makes sense for high end build that’s in between slightly budget conscious and paying premium for aesthetics. disclaimer: these prices are from our country (PH)

[@hinchlikescake7592]

To gain back some performance from Pathtracing without sacrificing too much on image quality you can adjust how many light bounces there are. from 2x2 (4), on Cyberpunk. With a mod.

[@DELTA9XTC]

Daaaaaaaaniel what is with your new 4k 240hz WOLED monitor? Still waiting for your video about it. Almost feels like you didnt get it yet? or do you want to test it a few weeks before you talk about it? Im planning to buy a 240hz 4k OLED, Im leaning towards one of the QD-OLEDs but Im still really curious about your opinion of the WOLED, since you know how QD-OLED (even tho I dont think youve seen the newest gen panels, right? the ones that are used in the 4k240 MSI, ASUS, Alienware monitors?) looks, Ive never seen either in RL

[@_Jacksen]

Upgraded from a 2070 to a 4070 ti super. Great for high settings and high frames while on 1440p

[@unorthodox5171]

My dad was next to me watching this video he said exactly "what the hell is this guy talking about?" xD

[@TROD..]

just finished getting a 4080 for 750 on hardwareswap, the raw performance with the 4000 series isn't the problem, its the the price to performance as you noted. I urge anyone and everyone to try to get a 4000 series card open box or second hand from early adopters who will inevitably buy into the 5000 series because its shiny and new

[@mrdappernature8861]

Im keeping my 4080 until I cant run games atleast 60. So Ill probably skip this upcoming gen and get a 6000 series

[@stevenszmek7007]

I still don't get people buying a 90s card. It's just a waste of money considered the performance increase. Nvidias prices are already a joke - and someone buying a 90s card is not the "smartest" person in my eyes. At least if it's just for gaming and not for business...

[@camdustin9164]

Just upgraded one of my PCs to a 4070 ti super from the 5600xt. It worth every penny, the RTX 4000 Super series has been the best release since ever since the 1080ti. Great power + great price to performance.

[@CFenix1]

"that's how we roll on the channel, just deal with it" 😂😂

[@thefurmidablecatlucky3]

this comparision might be a bit odd but it does make sense cause you can build an entire PC with a 4070 Ti Super in it for the price of a 4090

[@johndelabretonne2373]

Daniel, I'm curious how you would feel if the difference in price between these two was more like $640 (so around an 80% price increase instead of more than double)? I consider that while the 4090 costs more, it would also probably last a few extra years in my system, and when I'd decide to sell it, it would most likely still be worth more than double what the 4070 ti Super is worth, netting me more equity toward my next GPU upgrade. This is seldom brought up reviewers, but it's an important aspect to consider for me...

[@danielowentech]

I think the 4090 would lose more total value as soon as it's surpassed in performance. For example, I could see it dropping to $800 or less by the time the 4070 drops to $500 or so.