Is the 5DMIV Still Worth It?

[@cornerofthemoon]

The latest Canon Mirrorless Full Frames are technically superior but I find the user experience of an old school DSLR far more satisfying.

[@justdavidphotos]

I ❤️ my 5DIV and plan to keep it for years to come. The used EF lenses are becoming cheaper and cheaper as people switch to the RF lenses.

[@ericsunphotography]

Yes! I’m here for cheaper EF lenses 😂😂 and my 5DMIV is still going strong for 5 years!

[@MrZorbatron]

Not a Canon guy, but this is exactly how I feel with Nikon. Lots of guys switching to Z, and buying new lenses instead of using the FTZ. Just leaves more high quality lenses for me (and every other SLR holdout).

[@mikem6796]

@@ericsunphotography Have you shot with the r5 or r6ii? Curious your experience.

[@ericsunphotography]

Yup! I actually have the r5 now. I’m planning on doing a video about the pros and cons of it. It’s certainly a love/hate relationship at the moment being a hybrid shooter 😂😂

[@Gauravsinghrf]

Same here. Got a new Sigma 35 mm f1.4 for my 5DM4. M set for another 5-6 years, such a beast this camera is.

[@nelsono4315]

anyone that cannot take superb photos with the 5DMIV needs to rethink their photography

[@ericsunphotography]

😂😂 gear is important but it’s not everything!

[@barryking6522]

I use may 5D4 as well as my 5D, mirrorless will not replace them for me

[@ericsunphotography]

The 5DMIV is still one of the best cameras out there in my opinion. Definitely still a beast of a camera!

[@dankman8619]

I've got a cannon 5d mk2 as my first camera and I'm loving it for wildlife photography but I'm thinking about upgrading to the mk 4.

[@lukapogo]

I recently got a R5ii. I'm absolutely keeping my 5d4. I was very surprised at how well it compares in terms of high ISO compared to the R5. The only thing that's markedly inferior is the focus. But if i were to go somewhere where weather was inclement, where i absolutely needed ruggedness, i'd take the 5d, no questions. I have also worked as an assistant to several photographers who still use the 5DS/R bodies. As someone else in the comments has said, if you cannot take a good pic with these cameras, it's not the camera's fault (usually)

[@ericsunphotography]

The focus is definitely improved with the R5 and I imagine even more so with the R5II. DSLR’s are still great cameras that fit the needs of whoever needs them at a great price now!

[@rdmanzo6691]

Thanks for the great video. I've shot with my Mark 3 for MANY years and it has served me extremely well. Can't wait to upgrade to the IV and reward my Mark 3 with semi-retirement, backup camera status.

[@ericsunphotography]

You won’t regret it! Love mine and still use it all the time!

[@juangamarra9668]

I still use my 5D Mark Iv and also my 7D Mark II, both are fantastic and worthy of keeping, and saves me a lot of money, instead of going mirrorless I bought the 70 200 2.8 IS III version, arriving today, rather buy lenses than bodies.

[@ericsunphotography]

I feel that for sure! How you liking the new lens?

[@juangamarra9668]

@@ericsunphotography loving it, making some soccer photos and enjoying a lot.

[@TubaSolotheHiker]

I've said it before and I've said it again. I'm deep in Canon mirrorless but hand me a 5DIV and I'll slay all day long everyday in both photo and video. 5DIV is an amazing photo and video tool.

[@ericsunphotography]

Slay it bro and completely agree! Definitely recommend this camera all day!

[@johnhagen31]

I've had all sorts of Canon DSLRs from the EOS 10D up to the 90D but I cling to my 5D/2, 6D/2 and of course 5D/4. Simply excellent to use. For travelling light my wife and I have 2 M5's each with adaptors for our L EF lenses

[@ericsunphotography]

I love traveling light and always try to bring as little as I can to shoots because I’m not trying to drag a heavy camera bag with me if I don’t have to!

[@guidobosch8459]

Yes! 5D4 now 3 yrs old. I was considering an R5 or EF 85 1.4 … I decided to keep my 5D and bought a new EF 85 1.4. I mainly shoot portraits. The feel of the body and the look of the photos are unmatchable with the modern mirror less … and this feeling and look will only ripen in the future … it will be a market in future just as we now buy old M42 lenses…

[@ericsunphotography]

Absolutely! That combo is 👌👌 I love that set up whenever I can use it!

[@babc97]

Just bought a brand new one in 2024 and will use it for years.

[@ericsunphotography]

Let me know how it goes!

[@mamumonkan]

Hello There, can you shoot the 5D IV in silent ELECTRONIC SHUTTER MODE ????? THX !!!

[@ericsunphotography]

Hey! Thanks for your question. So there isn’t an electronic shutter mode because it’s still a DSLR and has a mirror inside that flips but you can turn on a silent shutter modes. There’s some options to choose from depending on what you prefer but you can still hear the shutter when you take photo. I turn it on sometimes and it’s a big difference depending on the space that I’m shooting. Hope this helps! You can go to the camera menu, the red section to page 6 and you’ll see “Silent LV shoot.”

[@mamumonkan]

ok thanks for clarifying, strangely enough the lowly Pentax K1 added this via firmware update ?@@ericsunphotography

[@ericsunphotography]

@mamumonkan I’m not too familiar with Pentax since all the bodies I use/used are Canon ones but Canon announced, before they started releasing all their mirrorless cameras said that they’re not really supporting their DSLR’s anymore. I could be wrong but in that announcement it included firmware updates. Which is unfortunate but that’s why I don’t think Canon will have an “electronic shutter” silent mode for the 5DMIV. There are some cameras that are capable of both mechanical and electronic but the MIV, to my knowledge doesn’t have that ability where the shutter is as silent as an electronic shutter.

[@mamumonkan]

Hey you seem to be a genuine guy - I contacted Canon and keep you posted meanwhile I just found p.312 in the manual and that looks promising :) ( from a pro who used to put 40 - 80 rolls daily through 1N RS bodies @@ericsunphotography

[@aaronporterjr.9515]

Love my 5DM4! Bought it used a few years back and have been blessed honestly. You have cheaper lens options with mirrorless and RF being the “thing “ to own today. I don’t know if/when I’ll ever make the move to mirrorless. For what I do, DSLR’s do wonders for me!

[@ericsunphotography]

I see it like a new software update 😂😂 I’ll let the other users work out the kinks in new tech so when I get it, it’ll be a pretty well polished camera but I always keep my 5DMIV with me. In certain conditions, using the MIV’s viewfinder is so much easier in my opinion.

[@anatolymelnik5923]

Thank you, I fully agree. I have two 5Div bodies, 5Dsr, R6ii, and a ton of L glass. Both DSLRs have grips and are literally extension of my hand. 5D series has been refined to near perfection (same probably goes to Nikon DSLRs). My fingers know the button placement and fly through settings changes without even looking. I feel no disadvantage whatsoever when using a DSLR. 1Dx series cameras are very nice too but more expensive and I like the flexibility of removable grip. Mirrorless camera is fun to use but I find it to be more of a toy and not built as well as pro DSLRs. Time will tell. Accelerated changes in functionality, size and button placement, take time to adapt to. Sure, once you’re used to it, it’s all great… until they change it again just so they can increase their profit margins. Transition from film to digital was more seamless to me and justified. The overall layout of cameras remained consistent with the addition of a screen. But this time the need to change is not obvious. DSLRs, in general, have not exhausted their potential, certainly not in image quality department. The only undeniable advantage of mirrorless is fast autofocus and eye tracking. The autofocus and EVF have brought pro cameras to the masses. Anyone with enough money can now buy R5 and 50mm 1.2 and produce stunning images. Camera will do it all for you. But the underlying knowledge and skills are lost or devalued. Lastly, Canon, what’s up with all the bulky and plasticky RF lenses, even the L glass? Sure, the image quality is great, but why are the lenses so fat and plasticky, especially for the huge amount of money they cost? What’s up with the noisy focus motors on the non-L “cheap” lenses making robot sounds from the 80s? Is any of this going to last like the EF glass? What’s up with heavy reliance on in-camera correction to mask huge flaws in optical design on non-L glass? Locking RF mount for other lens manufacturers is BS. Anyway, I’ll stop ranting here. Lol

[@ericsunphotography]

Haha this is an open space to share your thoughts! Thanks for sharing too! I definitely agree with some points that you mentioned and I personally still love the DSLR VF. Can’t stand the mirrorless EVF sometimes but at the end of the day, those that do prioritize craft and continue to grow in their art will be able to create great images regardless of gear. It’s the foundation you build upon that keeps you going!!

[@russeli1941]

Very well said!

[@Himmelsdrake]

How would you compare the image quality of the R6ii to the 5Div? I need to upgrade for the autofocus and burst rate, but I don't want to loose to much image quality :/

[@anatolymelnik5923]

@@Himmelsdrake The image quality is comparable. Colours are similar. That said I tend to look at an image overall quality and I’m not seeing any noticeable differences that would be bothering me or make me switch entirely to mirrorless . R6ii lets me keep more action images (especially kids) due to autofocus and stabilization but I still use 5d iv for most serious work.

[@aling.4977]

I’m just a hobbyist photographer from Melbourne and shooting with my 5D mk4 is nothing but joy. It just works and the view finder is so soothing compared to evf. I did the switch from 5D lll to mirror less system than back to Dslr. I’d rather quit photography than use an evf again.

[@ericsunphotography]

Not going to lie, the EVF still gets on my nerves sometimes 😂😂

[@aling.4977]

Don’t get me wrong I love the smaller mirror less systems and the auto zoom while manual focusing is nothing but spectacular. Unfortunately I started developing very itchy, runny eyes. The level of discomfort was only getting worse for me from using the evf. My optometrist told me that whatever I’m doing is affecting my right eye more..Now you probably understand better why I switched back.

[@sureshbankar5958]

Iam still using 5d mark 4 for photo & video

[@ericsunphotography]

Such a great camera!

[@Petsublak]

Hi, Great video ! I've been looking at upgrading my camera for a while, I've looked at the 5D mk4 for sometime, then I've also looked at mirrorless. I've watched and also read a fair few reviews on the 5D mk4 and the Canon R series. You've have helped seal my decision for which I am very grateful, thank you !!!

[@ericsunphotography]

Glad to hear I could be of some help!! Can’t wait for you to start shooting with your new camera!

[@DenniBoy44]

Thanks for your review, I am planning to buy 5DMK4 in 2023, because of much better viewfinder, compared to mirrorless, and also it gives you emotional contact to what you are photographing. Regarding big video file size - the other side of that, it that codec consumes less processor time, and camera does not go to overheat, and battery works longer - which is pain in mirrorless with image stabilization.

[@ericsunphotography]

The viewfinder! Yes, that’s my biggest complaint about mirrorless cameras and I don’t hear many people talking about that. I guess not as many people use it anymore? Not sure but I covered an event the other day with the 5DMIV and it made shooting so much easier than if I just shot with a mirrorless. I do think canon “fixed” the overheating issue with the R5…as long as you don’t constantly film in 4K 60 for long periods of time.

[@lb7144]

I have the Canon 90D, 5D MKII, & C100 MKII. I’d love to have an R6 but couldn’t pass up the deal I got on the 5D MKIV.

[@ericsunphotography]

Wow, you’re stacked on camera bodies! Low key jealous but happy to hear you got a great deal on the MIV!

[@lb7144]

@@ericsunphotography Yep, trying to get my gear together so when I retire the 2nd time I’m fixed for my hobby. I am so enjoying my 5D MK IV! It’s like chicken thighs on the grill, you almost can’t mess it up. My photos are sharp and it lets in so much more light than my 90D and it’s the newer body. That full frame sensor is awesome. I’m still learning but when I keep my exposure proper and shooting trinity correct, I get great photos. Well, great in my novice eyes. Thanks for the awesome content.

[@SomeAftermath]

Thx for the video, Eric! This was the last video I watched before I decided to pull the trigger and purchase a used 5d mark iv. Im upgrading from a 7d, so it’s my first full frame camera. Can’t wait to see more videos from ya.

[@ericsunphotography]

Glad to hear it! Happy to help and let me know how it goes once you get it and congratulations on the upgrade! 👏👏

[@iLLSinceProductions]

It's 2024 and I'm upgrading from my 5DM3. Truly looking at the mark 4

[@ericsunphotography]

Do it!! 👏👏

[@roywales4444]

I just acquired the 5D4 yesterday as part of the 5D collection. All of my cameras are 'old' (nothing newer than 2016) but loving the experience and images out of all of them in their individual ways. Looking forward to exploring any new features over the mark 3. Although I plan on building a newer mirrorless system, just not convinced yet which way to go for my needs.

[@sale83]

I still use mine. Don't have plans to switch any time soon, don't have any reason to, this one gets the work done. shutter, aperture, iso...all I need basically and files easy to develop. Many say focus points better on milc, yeah great, but, 99% of those who are poitning that, use live view anyway. Put 5d mk4 to live view and you get the same thing and focus all over the screen. Maybe in 10-15 years, if I am still alive, i will switch to mirrorless, but for now I am good with good old dslr.

[@ericsunphotography]

100% facts! This camera was definitely built to last and it holds its own time after time. The focus in the VF and in LV work so seamless for me that when I hear other people talk about focus points and etc. from other cameras, it doesn’t phase me too much because the 5DMIV just does such an amazing job that the question for me is, how do these new cameras compare to the 5DMIV. Then I might pay closer attention 😂😂

[@mk-escapades]

I have a question for you Eric. I have a 5d MKiii and love the camera, have had it for 10 years. I would like more MPs, and would like another 10 year camera. the Canon R scares me a bit because all my lenses need to be firmware upgraded, plus I would need an adapter to run, them, there are so many cons. So i'm considering the 5D MKiv. Despite its age, do you think it would be a good buy to upgrade?

[@ericsunphotography]

Thanks for asking! I’m happy to help however I can! If you want to stick with DSLR’s then for sure. I’d recommend the 5DMIV any day to anyone who mainly shoots photos. The video capabilities isn’t bad (compared to the new cameras coming out, it’ll do what it needs for sure but it isn’t really anything worth mentioning now since what the 5DMIV has seems like a base for all new cameras coming out). You’ll definitely benefit from the higher MP sensor. I know that a few canon lenses need firmware updates for RF use so that will depend on the lenses you have. I haven’t updated my EF lenses firmwares and they’re pretty great. I do have a mount that I use but I still use my 5DIV quite often. At a quick glance, I saw some for a little less than $1300 online used. I’d always recommend renting first to see how you like it if you’re able to before paying all that money for one but short answer is, yes. I love mine still and for what I shoot, it’s a great one to have! But I will also say that depending on your needs, looking into mirrorless cameras and knowing your options isn’t a bad thing either. You’ll just have to pay a little more for new memory cards and other accessories if you do get a mirrorless camera. Hope that helps!

[@amanra1595]

I have the 5D Mark IV, and love it

[@ericsunphotography]

👏👏 one of the best DSLR’s out there!

[@davetoth9767]

I certainly love my 5D ! No thoughts whatsoever of replacing it yet !

[@brentmiller73]

I agree. I know of several other pro that still use the 5DMk IV for their go to. Color is awesome! As well as, the auto focus.

[@ericsunphotography]

Absolutely!

[@innesstroud2971]

I am still using DSLR in fact I use the Canon 90D as my go to camera, I was considering going mirrorless with the Canon EOS R6 Mark II but the 5D Mark 4 rekindled my interest, I've heard so much about the 5D Mark 4 that it made me want to purchase one, I am more than determined to purchase one as the price go down I may give the DSLR another shot with this Badboy since I am planning on graduating from APSC to full frame.

[@ericsunphotography]

Nice! The 90D is definitely a good camera as well and for me, the 5DMIV is still the best full frame camera that I would recommend where you get the most value to the dollar with it being full frame. The mirrorless cameras are great too but they’re just so expensive to me. Depending on your budget for the camera and lenses, their are some pretty well priced 5DMIV’s out there in kits online for a great price and some come with CLog as well if you do video work!

[@germanshepherdmom5411]

Yeah I love my 5d Markiv, a matter of fact my thumbnail photo of my dog was taken with it. I do also have the R5 and it’s a wonderful camera as well but the photos I get from the 5d Markiv are so good that I barely have to edit them at all. The color output is beautiful as well, I actually prefer the colors from the 5d Markiv . I’ll never sell it!

[@ericsunphotography]

That is a great point! The color output of the mark iv is truly amazing straight out of camera. For some of my video work with the mark iv, I sometimes don’t really even need to mess with the colors at all and it looks great! Thanks for bringing that up!

[@joncothranphotography9375]

I simply love my 5D mark iv! It just works and the images come out with a look and feel that is just wonderful! I added it to my line up with my 7D ii and I love that I can set them up the same way so that I can pick up either one and just shoot. Thanks for your thoughts!

[@ericsunphotography]

Great to see another photographer still loving and rocking the 5DMIV!!

[@joncothranphotography9375]

@@ericsunphotography It's been a year from the time of that video. Do you still feel the same way?

[@ericsunphotography]

@joncothranphotography9375 that’s a great question and I think I should make an updated video. I’d still say yes but, now there’s an “and…” depending on what you shoot!

[@williamconnell6541]

I played the upgrade game for a while and started with the 400d and ended with the 5d Mk iv, I will not be replacing my Mk iv as i love it so much as it does everything i would ever need or want, the only complaint i would have is it has a video button that i never use or will ever use and feel i paid for something for nothing i needed.

[@ericsunphotography]

That’s definitely fair and I hear that for sure! The photo capabilities of this camera are undeniable but at least you have the video options in case you ever do need it..maybe? Loll

[@davidmalone4017]

Terrific video-thanks very much!!!

[@ericsunphotography]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Wolfgangzinkl]

I have a Canon 5 D IV and also an 80 D / and unfortunately to many lenses when travelling... EF and EF-S... Should I change both systems into an RF6 II with adapter?

[@ericsunphotography]

You definitely can! It would all depend on what you’d need the upgrade for but the R6 II, I’ve heard great things about it. The 5DIV is definitely a great camera and can perform alongside the R6II but if you’re ok with changing from 2 cameras to 1 and wanting to do more video or whatever, the switch could definitely be helpful! I might wait a littler personally, because there are a lot of rumors about Canon releasing more cameras which can bring down the price of the R6II but that’s just me!

[@Wolfgangzinkl]

@@ericsunphotography thanks a lot. Probably you are right..

[@effytraveler6155]

I’m an amateur photographer who started with a point and shoot. I wanted a viewfinder piece and went for a used Canon T6 body and a new 50mm 1.8 lens under a certain budget. Now I own a used Canon 5D Mark IV because I want the viewfinder piece, full frame image, and to grow as a photographer. I do have a different budget. I still can’t do the whole new and better cameras under the cost they are. I am an amateur photographer. Will I grow with this camera and learn about its limitation? Absolutely. By then I can try and make the switch to Sony or Canon’s RF.

[@ericsunphotography]

For sure! As you grow, your needs change and sometimes the camera that everyone else is raving about might not actually be what you need because of your genre or your style but getting used to how each camera works and what it can and can’t do is always great to know so you’re ready for whatever gig you have coming up!

[@meteoritoIII]

Hi Eric, Im actually just in the moment to change my old 2x 6Ds and 4 lenses to a new camera kit, and i'm in doubt if would be good idea to buy a 5DIV or move to R5 or R6II. I do mostly portraits and events but i am frustrated with the 6D autofocus (lots of unfocused eyes) so i don't know if 5DIV will give me a more reliable "in focus" experience or just move to an R camera (with all the money difference i have to put on). Can anyone give me with any advice about??? Cheers from Chile!!!

[@ericsunphotography]

Thanks for your comment! So, personally from reading your comment, I’m leaning on telling you to maybe go with an R series camera actually because of its eye detection auto focus. Granted, there’s no camera out there that will hit perfect focus 100% of the time and when I use the R5, sometimes it misses the eyes or it becomes annoying and focuses on the eyes of a picture in the background or the wrong person. BUT I’m leaning that way because if you mostly shoot portraits, I’d go with an R series. However, for events, I actually really like to use the 5DMIV because of the optical view finder. I find that to be so much better and reliable than the electronic view finder in the mirrorless cameras. This is just my experience and comparing the MIV and R5. For portraits, I don’t know the f-stop you like to shoot at but shooting at a 2.8, 3.5,4,5.6 on a 24-70 zooming in, or an 85mm 1.4 a good distance away, I haven’t really had much of an issue with missing focus in the eyes or subject in general (outside of the occasional misfocus from the camera). Both are certainly great and you’ll save money on the 5DIV but keep in mind that canon no longer supports DSLR’s so what you get is what you get. Let me know if this helps. It’s a long message but if you got any other questions, hit me up!

[@meteoritoIII]

@@ericsunphotography Thanks a lot Eric, this is a very helpful answer, from a person who experienced both systems. I think i'm going to move to R system, because of the eye detection and support from Canon. Thanks again!!!

[@georgescanvas]

Very polished video and pictures ..... Point to point single AF is still faster on the mirror slappers IMHO. I still use DSLR and don't plan on changing.

[@ericsunphotography]

Thank you! DLSR's have stood the test of time for sure. We'll see how these mirrorless ones do.

[@Joel4JC]

Just upgraded to the Mark IV from the Mark III, instead of going mirrorless! Thanks for the video, Just found your channel and now subscribing.

[@ericsunphotography]

I appreciate that and have fun shooting with the MIV!

[@RichieColemanSr]

Love the video. That being said, people moved on from film cameras to DSLR cameras. Film shooters didn't want to move from film, but a number of them did. That being said, when you look through the viewfinder of a mirrorless camera, you will say WOW... the auto focus and IBS is amazing.

[@ericsunphotography]

For sure! I think the change from film to DSLR’s was a big change and it made photography so much more accessible and easier for people to process their photos along with not being limited on how many shots they could take with film, instead it was based on how big your memory card was. As well as being able to see your shot right after you took the photo instead of having to wait and hope you got the shot after you got your photos developed.

[@bobobravo5727]

please what is your photo material ?

[@ericsunphotography]

What do you mean?

[@bobobravo5727]

@@ericsunphotography equipments please

[@ericsunphotography]

@@bobobravo5727 ah I got you. It depends on what I’m shooting-I have a video series on all my lenses on my channel that I use for shoots with my full frame canon cameras. I use Godox/flashpoint lights for interior work like real estate, portraits, and events. Flashpoint r2pro system with the lights and…any thing else? I’m planning on making a few more videos talking about the equipment that I use for each genre of photography that I shoot. Is there a genre you’d like me to start with first?

[@bobobravo5727]

@@ericsunphotography thank you very much 👍👍👍

[@kevinl1492]

I guess I am one of those people that doesn't have "mirrorless money" and I need a body that can not only handle low light as well as (or better than) my 6D's, but has a modern autofocus system. And maybe even do face tracking! I have mirrorless in other formats, but I keep coming back to optical viewfinders, full frame sensors and EF glass. Good video.

[@nickbristol3457]

I still have and use my 5DMK4 that I bought new 5-6 years ago now. I do have a new R6MK2 for some shoots by just love my old Mk4. Really a wonderful camera.

[@ericsunphotography]

It truly is! I honestly don’t think I’ll ever get rid of/over the quality and level the 5DMIV offers. It just operates in a way that it intuitively just makes sense for me while I’m out shooting and the quality of images it takes is really outstanding!

[@nickbristol3457]

@@ericsunphotography I totally agree!

[@russeli1941]

I decided on the 5D4 when mirrorless hit the scene and I don't regret it. I needed to move up from the 6D2 and 80D and I'm happy I chose to stick with the DSLR. Honestly, I did buy the EOS R at 1st but took it back to Best Buy a week later because it honestly did feel like a toy. My 5D4 just fits in my hand so perfectly. And I figured that if the 5D4 was good enough for the pros then it will surely be good enough for me. I'm debating on adding the 5Dsr to my gear, but I don't want the 5D4 to end up sitting on the sidelines, and I don't want to be throwing money around just to end up with 2 similar cameras. Any thoughts? I mostly shoot landscape in Colorado Springs and that keeps me busy in my retirement. I can't say this from experience, but I think I learn more and I am more involved in the end result of my photos by sticking with the old school DSLR's. It was nice to have come across your video, thanks.

[@ericsunphotography]

I think if you did get both of those cameras, the 5Dsr would be the one sitting on the sidelines more because the quality and performance from the 5DIV is really amazing. If you want a cheaper second camera that functions about the same and you’re just doing stills, I think the 5Dsr would be a good second camera but if you’re only/mostly shooting landscapes, if you need a second camera then go for it or save up to get a second camera that may perform better than the 5DIV in scenarios that you run across often. Getting cameras that are too similar could be a great thing but I look for cameras that compliment each other (one is better in video, one is better in photo, etc) so I can choose the equipment best suited for the job. But all that to say, can’t go wrong with your choices but I’d just keep in mind if I’ll get my money’s worth investing that much and getting 2 camera bodies. Just my opinion!

[@russeli1941]

@@ericsunphotography That's good advise. Thanks for taking the time to respond. ✌

[@georgenorthcutt6774]

I’d say yes!!!! I still use the 5D Classic and the 6D mark 1. I have a 5D mark ii but the shutter needs to be replaced. I’m probably going to convert the 5D mark ii into an infrared dslr.

[@ericsunphotography]

Oh wow! I never heard of converting to an infrared DSLR. That’s interesting!

[@miguelelliot8921]

Great review…. This camera is my workhorse and has been for a few years now covering sports, and events. I back it up with a Canon 6D M2 . Im considering buying a 1D X to go along side it but I really don’t need to fire off 25 fps as I’ve been a sports photographer for close to 40 years and still photograph daily.

[@ericsunphotography]

Nice! 5DMIV is definitely a reliable camera for sure. I have the 1DXMII as well and definitely love them both. The MII was definitely a lot more money but still really like that combo! Been faithful to me for some years now.

[@LouisTinsley]

I have a GFX 100s and I LOVE that camera, but there are certain things I still go to my 5Dmk4 for. Its just a solid ass camera that can take a beating and still deliver every time.

[@freedomlittleslobodica2079]

Been using crop 700D for I dont know how many years now. Just for hobby. But recently something clicked 🙂 and now I want to go pro. I was thinking about R6 m2, but somehow I think that 5D m4 makes better photos. I get that feeling from your video too. The price is also important, but not as quality. Ty for for the video, it helps a lot. It would be nice to see a video about your realestate work, your setup and planning process, basic lenses that are a must. Hope your chanell grows quickly, you really have a lot to offer. Keep it up, man!

[@ericsunphotography]

I appreciate that! I will definitely say that for me, having the 5DMIV I don’t feel a need to get another camera just for photos. But I will say, one thing that the mirrorless cameras may have over the 5DMIV is the video specs if that’s something you think you might want to get into in the future but the 5DMIV will not disappoint! Use it for real estate all the time and thanks for the suggestion! I’ll get a video together about that!

[@mainakdey6878]

Perfect possible upgrade option for certain genres like portraits, babies, maternity, object and even landscape photography. Mirrorless are more apt for professionals who need hybrid still and video. I would get more L series lenses and nice lighting gears for the difference price. My 5dmk3 is keeping me happy😊

[@RichieColemanSr]

How much editing did you do on your beautiful Photos?

[@ericsunphotography]

I appreciate that! The amount of editing does vary depending on the shot but I’ve been doing it for so long now that it doesn’t really feel like much? I have a workflow that makes the editing as seamless as possible while still getting the results I want like PS actions and LR presets.

[@RichieColemanSr]

@@ericsunphotography Are those the 2 that you use?

[@ericsunphotography]

@@RichieColemanSr Yup! Mostly, I also use Luminar Neo from time to time as well.

[@donswitzer54]

I shoot with a 5D Mark iv, the EF Lens are very high quality. I also use the Sigma Art Lens for my prime’s 85,50&35mm. Pertaining photography the image quality is beautiful. I plan on keeping mines. It still comes down to composition and the shooter😎📷

[@ericsunphotography]

Sigma art lenses are 👌👌! For some lenses, in my experience, I honestly prefer the EF ones over the RF ones too.

[@zvitkovits]

This is one of the very few current reviews about DSLR / 5DMk4 which does not end with a recommendation for mirrorless. If used for photography and if one has the skills using a DSLR there is hardly a difference in IQ compared to mirrorless cameras. I have used the R5 several times and haven‘t seen relevant advantages regarding IQ in 95% of my used cases. Development and innovation for sensors have slowed down. No need to rush with changing platforms. The OVF is one of the greatest strengths and advantages of DSLR platforms - if one knows how to expose. I also agree with the ergonomics of the 5D which is perfect. Only the shutter sound is terrible, what a pity. ;) I also appreciate the simplicity of the camera, it is not a computer. Especially when one earns money with photography you need to be thoughtful with your investments. This camera still delivers and the EF platform is cost efficient.

[@ericsunphotography]

💯! I can’t get over how awesome having an OVF really is. I use it so often and I just love the simplicity of it and the mirrors in DSLR’s. I also agree about EF lenses. Just can’t justify switching to RF even though some people have told me using an RF lens is better but currently, the difference between EF and RF doesn’t justify the price in my opinion!

[@zvitkovits]

@@ericsunphotography RF have many advantages and give better results but the difference in real world use is irrelevant in most of the cases. I bet in a few years from now we will see a hype around the ‚special character‘ of some EF lenses. By emphasising the simplicity you are addressing a key point in my eyes. The new platforms / systems are less about improved IQ but much more about intelligent support systems for producing images. Output is getting more and more streamlined, human contribution (including mistakes) and happenstance are more and more eliminated. Soon humans will not be needed for the production if images. Commercially good for agencies. Photography as a business is becoming even more unattractive - which is fine. If one wants to practice photography, simplicity and even restrictions of gear will bring joy and extraordinary results. Approaching the world through a good OVF allows me to be much more in direct contact with the subjects than watching simulations in a video screen. I find myself using the OVF being more creative and inspired. In post-production I remember scenes and can edit them according to my impressions and feelings I had in that moment. I also use mirrorless/EVF and find it less inspiring because its already digitally interpreted. As professional photographers we can give up striving for efficiency and productivity in producing images. Technology does the job better. We should focus on creativity and innovativeness in content creation. Simplicity supports that.

[@GrantOakes]

I still shoot with a 10 year old 5D MkIII and see no reason to upgrade. Heck, it has so much resolution that I rarely shoot at full raw resolution, I typically opt for the medium raw setting.

[@ericsunphotography]

I know a few people that feel the same way and didn’t upgrade to the IV when it came out. But I will say, 10 years though 👌👌 that testifies!

[@GrantOakes]

@@ericsunphotography in looking at reviews I really don't see enough of an improvement in image quality or features to justify the expense in upgrading to a mirrorless system or anything else for that matter.

[@gustavo_federico]

Still shooting with MK4 and MK2. The artistic render I'm getting out of these 2 are just beautiful . Great video btw !

[@ericsunphotography]

👏👏👏 thank you!

[@RobbieKhan]

UK here, just recently bought a brand new 5D4 for £1500 (digitalrev) - I have had the 5D 3 not long after it launched and wanted the improved low light high ISO performance and improved AF in low light primarily. In the end I found out that there are a host of improved features and some new that I actually really like on the 4 vs 3. I did consider going EOS R5 or R6 MkII but the cost it at least double, and then gotta buy the RF to EF mount ring too on top - And you lose out on battery life so need to buy extra batteries which are £120each... For me DSLR is what I will stick with until mirrorless prices fall to sensible levels. I will retain my EF L lenses as they are so good, I see little reason to spend even more on RF lenses, when the official lens ring does such a great job at improving EF lens performance on an R series body with no downsides. So right now 5D4 is my main, 5d3 is the backup. I also had a 6D Mark II but something always felt off about it, the screen quality just wasn't up to 5D clarity, and the shutter noise just didn't feel as familiar as a 5D's shutter does. Little details matter.

[@ericsunphotography]

Congratulations on your new 5DMIV! In addition to everything that you said, from what I heard, Canon is still working on improving their RF lenses as well, and similar to you, I just can't justify spending an extra $1000 USD on an RF lens compared EF when the RF lens line is still being developed when EF lenses are amazing themselves plus all the third party options you have too. The 5DMIV still carries itself as an amazing camera even with the new mirrorless ones coming out and that definitely says something!

[@airfixer9461]

100% right...I love DSLR's like my D7 of D1MkIII...I'm not going to mirrorless...

[@ericsunphotography]

DSLR’s will always have their place!!

[@michaeldande]

i bought the SD IV 2023 Brand new .Why i shoot wildlife .. lenses commonly used 600 mmf4 100mm macro, Sigma 35, 50, 105 plus 1.4 with 2.0 TC and this is where the catch is in the 4k video. it crops 1.7 in 4k Add that to teleconverter i get what i want in wildlife

[@ericsunphotography]

I don't shoot wildlife so I can't speak too much about it but it sounds like you have a pretty amazing kit and setup there and I can imagine that you get some pretty awesome shots with the 4K and teleconverter with those lenses!

[@naturesedgephotography1478]

It’s still well worth it, I use it for landscapes, Astro, wildlife and for the occasional modeling shoot. It’s tried and true and versatile.

[@ericsunphotography]

Absolutely agree! It’s a workhorse for sure and has never failed me either!

[@tonyrahmos811]

Hi. Does anyone get hot pixels , like blue/white marks, on 5DIV when shooting at long exposure (10-30s)? I get too many of them

[@ericsunphotography]

What’s your ISO set at? And are you taking twilight photos?

[@tonyrahmos811]

@@ericsunphotography hi. I set the ISO at around 200. And yes, I shoot twilight / dark scenes that need long exposure, like the stars, milky way, etc.

[@gazzwad]

Too many dodgy focus issues on the mk4. was never reliable enough to nail focus but I did like it to use. Sold it when I bought an eosr as it did everything better. It was a great camera I enjoyed owning but was no benefit over am eos r and not as nice to use.

[@ericsunphotography]

Appreciate you sharing! Whatever works best for you is always the best camera to use!

[@tommasosetaro]

Love your content, just subscribed!

[@ericsunphotography]

Thanks so much!

[@dbnoho]

I’ve made a nice supplemental income as a headshot photographer in New York, Chicago and California using a Canon 5d classic. 85mm and 50mm. Use what you got. Get to know what you use. Sometimes having better Auto focus would be nice. And better low light would be nice. But you figure it out.

[@ericsunphotography]

Absolutely! Sometimes limitations also allow you to think more creatively on how you approach shooting certain jobs too

[@jimmackayvlog]

I was checking out 5D mk iv prices this week. There are definite advantages to DSLRs.

[@ericsunphotography]

For sure! You know...when the price is right 👌

[@wunderler]

Eric, this is a good conversation about the 5D IV being worth it compared to the newer mirrorless offerings. First off , I'm still using a Canon 5D lll that I find to be more than adequate for my needs. I'm a hobbyist and not a PRO. I've spent a lot of money for my trinity lenses along with the purchase of several "L" wide angle lenses and some medium and standard telephoto "L" lenses. I have been contemplating the move up to mirrorless but have heard that the adapter EF to RF isn't all that great. I'm still watching and looking into this. Selling these older EF lenses and buying the newer more expensive RF lenses to replace them does not make me happy as I have limited fund to do so. Will I "UP GRADE" to the newer Mirrorless camera in the future ? Hard to say but, for the sake of frugality I'll most likely purchase the 5D IV, which will be still more camera than I need. I am not an EARLY ADOPTER nor do I have GAS (gear acquisition syndrome ) but I'm sure a 5D IV would take me into the year 2030 with no problems. Just my 2 cents ! I enjoyed your thoughts on this and have been looking at KEH and UPP for that eventual up grade.

[@ericsunphotography]

Thanks so much! I definitely hear you on the EF to RF adapter concerns and I'm not about those RF lens prices either loll. I do think that DSLR's are going to hold their own for a very long time for both hobbyists and pros. Not sure how this will affect the pricing of the mirrorless cameras out right now but there are rumors of Canon coming out with new mirrorless cameras next year and you can bet that there will be some pretty good/fairly new used R series cameras will be for sale from those who do have "GAS" haha.

[@tonyburford421]

I too am just a hobbyist. I was using a 5Diii but was ready for an upgrade, I thought about the R6 but went with a 5Div. I’m 100% sure I made the right choice it’s a great camera.

[@MarkDarnell]

Just bought a 5D IV on ebay for $950 certified refurbished. Can't wait it to come in.

[@ericsunphotography]

How’s the MIV working for you?

[@MarkDarnell]

@@ericsunphotography it's the best DSLR I've ever owned. It's practically perfect

[@ericsunphotography]

Love to hear it!!

[@mohammedmuhsin8034]

In amazone uae its showing for 1300 aed(350 usd), is that legit peice?

[@ericsunphotography]

Something about that just doesn't seem right loll. $350 USD? I personally wouldn't trust it.

[@mohammedmuhsin8034]

@@ericsunphotography ok

[@ericsunphotography]

@@mohammedmuhsin8034 Just doing some quick searches, from the States, I think around $1,500-$2,000 USD range will get you a pretty good deal for the camera body. There are a lot of kits where you can get extra batteries and other accessories around that price too but for anything below that, I feel you'd be taking a risk. Just wanted to try and help out a little more!

[@mohammedmuhsin8034]

@@ericsunphotography thank you

[@curtisbeckett4764]

I shoot with 5dmiv its the work horse. Thanks

[@ericsunphotography]

💯💯!!

[@lucannon]

I use the original EOS R, which has the same sensor as the 5D mk IV. But somehow the picture quality of the 5d mk IV is better -

[@ericsunphotography]

I don’t think enough people are talking about the differences between all electronic in camera processing of the images vs having a mirror vs film. They’re all different and they’re all great but I do think there are still positives for using DSLR’s over mirrorless and I think there are advantages of using mirrorless over DSLR’s but it just depends on the tool you need, what you prefer, and if people really care about the differences between each.

[@TheMrKonov]

I have over 1m clicks on 5d IV and I love it ❤

[@ericsunphotography]

Wow! Keep it going!!

[@Ericbjohnston5150]

All cameras still worth it. Even a 100 year camera that uses flash powder.

[@ericsunphotography]

Definitely agree but in my opinion it does matter on what you’re looking for and shooting.

[@insightvideo6136]

Hell yes it is.

[@ericsunphotography]

Let’s goo!!

[@andreawyatt3059]

At the end of the day if your crap at photography you wont improve by buying a mirrorless camera, why would a canon mkiv suddenly become crap?

[@ericsunphotography]

Very true!

[@JadenWhite]

id sang a cheap dslr for sure! Fun for street with the 50 1.2. 6d2 or 5d4 I would love one

[@ericsunphotography]

Oh yes! I use this camera for street photography anytime I can get myself out there. Love it for sure! The 50mm would be great for the low profile too!

[@Twobarpsi]

I'm looking to buy a 5d4 here in 2023!!

[@ericsunphotography]

Let’s go!! Let me know if you have questions when you get it! Renting before you buy if you have that option is always a go to for me

[@Temynutempo]

Hi Eric, where are u located, How can i contact you? I would like to learn from you. i love your works

[@ericsunphotography]

Thanks so much! I’m in Atlanta

[@davidmalone4017]

I LOVE MY 5D4-TERRIFIC CAMERA-GREAT IMAGES-VERY DURABLE!!!!

[@ericsunphotography]

Thank you and 👏👏 couldn’t agree more!

[@markrigg6623]

Its not keeping up with modern mirrorless plainly. And its just an "ok" sensor as it was before Canon went to their new raw format. Its the only 5D that I never bought, such was my frustration with Canon sensors.

[@BwBandit446]

Keep your plastic mirrorless cameras, I'll stay with the dslr tanks

[@ericsunphotography]

😂😂 the shade loll

[@rupephoto7615]

Don't like the music in the back ground

[@alannaiscoolio]

I hope a decade from now when our MIVs crap out on us they'll bring back dslrs for us 🙏🏼

[@ericsunphotography]

We’ll keep pushing this out into the universe and see what happens 😂😂 Definitely love DSLR’s for sure!

[@travel5182]

For the past 4 years I've been saving money to buy my first Canon 5Dmark 4 . 4 years ago when I did my research the 5d was my all time dream camera. now that I am almost reaching the target money to buy my camera I'm stuck in between buying the 5D mark 4 or buying the sony A7R4 . as a soon to be beginner photographer, this video was very helpful. please advise which camera would be best for me ( I plan to shoot portrait photos and night street pics and a little bit of sports photography )

[@ericsunphotography]

I understand the struggle! Honestly, either camera will work great with that you’re looking to shoot. The determining factor for me would be if I wanted to switch systems or not and if I wanted to do any video work. I’ve used the 5DIV for all of those genres and I’ve never had a complaint. The biggest thing for street photography and night photos would be your lens which you’d be paying a pretty penny for because of the aperture range and low light capabilities. The 5DIV is bigger and a little heavier than the Sony (which you’ll feel the difference if you’re walking around a lot doing street photography). I’d personally stick with the 5DIV loll though I am a little biased to be honest. But quality, both are great cameras!

[@hash46176]

I just bought a new one

[@ericsunphotography]

Congratulations on your new camera! Let me know what you think after you take it out for a shoot!

[@dayeah765caoni3]

Hello， fellow Atlantan 🎉

[@ericsunphotography]

Ayyee!!! 🙌🙌 what’s good!!

[@megakulz]

is new cameras worth it?

[@RogerZoul]

I sold my 5DM4, my 5Dsr, and all my crop sensor bodies to move to mirrorless (R5s). Don’t regret it at all, not for a minute. :)

[@ericsunphotography]

R5 is a great camera for sure!

[@mosafer787]

5d mk4 is not a reasonable camera to buy at all specially with 1300$ price for second hand one! If it was cheaper like 700_800$ for second hand ones it was absolutely reasonable camera to buy

[@ericsunphotography]

I definitely respect that and I’m curious, what alternative would you recommend (for others also who may be wondering the same)? For the video capabilities and other features of the 5DMIV, I personally think it’s a pretty good buy but would love to hear what you’d recommend instead!

[@FART-REPELLENT]

Your expectations for the price of a used 5D Mark IV are most unrealistic and unreasonable.

[@ericsunphotography]

I hear you, you have an alternative that you’d recommend instead?

[@FART-REPELLENT]

@@ericsunphotography A great alternative that's cheaper than the 5D Mark IV, is the Nikon D500, even though it's sensor is a APS-C sized with a 20.4 MP resolution, it is a excellent sensor: it can give you great image quality even when the I.S.O is set to 25,000; plus it is possible to achieve 24"x16" prints. Another great aspect is that this D500 has great auto-focusing, to name a few positives.

[@ericsunphotography]

@@FART-REPELLENT Appreciate you sharing! I think with that and the specs of the D500, for those that might be reading this, the canon equivalent to this, that I could find would be the 90D, which brand new, is a little cheaper than the D500 if an APS-C sensor is something that people would be interested in if they wanted to stick with Canon. I've never invested in or used Nikon really but camera manufacturers now definitely all make quality cameras. So, check out the D500 and 90D for APS-C (crop sensor) if you're interested! I'm still biased haha because I still have to say, if you're thinking of getting a full frame, 5DMIV still has my vote but it is true, you will be paying significantly more for it compared to the other cameras mentioned here.

[@jvlyenlimon9319]

Show us pictures and your work. Less talk is better.

[@ericsunphotography]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@dccd673]

Everyone seems to love their 5D M4, but here I am thinking about selling mine to get R5 for the extra MPs.

[@ericsunphotography]

😂😂 you can still have love for the 5DMIV and still get another camera that may better suit what you need. I still love mine but I also have the r5 because I’m doing a lot more video work now than I did before.

[@freemanchrisx]

DSLRs smoke mirrorless cameras, let the sheep buy the, "latest greatest", I'll pick up better equipment cheaper on the secondary market.

[@ericsunphotography]

😂😂

[@rasmokey4]

Nope!

[@rolandholtz8250]

They are going to be around for a long time my friend. Well save weight on the body and waste it on the lense. It's what it is a giant laugh. I bougt a 7D II von 330 $. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ericsunphotography]

😂😂 that’s a great buy for sure! The price tags on some of these lenses definitely makes me hold my breath when I click the check out button sometimes loll

[@ShademanIrvani]

I never liked MIRRORS CAMERAS

[@ericsunphotography]

Why is that?

[@FART-REPELLENT]

Unlike the R5 body design which is more linear with hard edges, the body design of the 5D MK IV is superior due to the curves and softly profiled edges, in fact all the 5D series DSLRs body designs are superior than the body designs of all non professional Mirrorless cameras. The award for the WORST body designs goes to Sony because all Sony Mirrorless cameras are linear with hard edges, it appears they no longer employ Industrial-Designers to design their cameras; I complained to Sony about the utterly CRAP body designs of their Mirrorless cameras, they still haven't replied 3 years later. I wish Nikon and Cannon had retained the curvy body designs for their Mirrorless cameras; I love the body designs of the D500 and the 5D MKIV

[@ericsunphotography]

I definitely know what you mean and the 5DMIV does feel good in the hands while you’re holding it and shooting. The ergonomics of body fits really well and I think it’s spoiled me because I can tell a big difference between this camera and other cameras that I’ve used.