Canon 5d Mark IV In 2022. After 5 years of assignments. Thoughts from a professional photographer

I have been shooting professional assignments with the Canon 5d Mark IV Full Frame DSLR since 2017. In this video I discuss my experiences and opinions of this camera. I talk through the various elements of the camera and show some examples of my work taken with the 5d mark 4. I touch on how it stacks up against more recent technology and how it performs in this day and age.

[@goodlawyer1813]

Great points. I've seen photos which were taken in the 1940s and 1950s which are remarkable...and they were taken without all of today's tech. Knowledge of photography is clearly more important than having the latest gear.

[@RoyRiley]

None of my best pictures have been camera specific so far!

[@dayeah765caoni3]

Photography before 2000 was more of a luxury than pleasure. Be grateful to you can afford nowadays

[@Azdak]

Thanks for the great review Roy. Love how you give practical opinions of how the cameras are to use overall instead of soley focusing on extremely detailed image quality comparisons

[@kurteichmiller7135]

Thank you, for your insight. I am new to the professional photography business but after much review I settled on the 5D Mark IV for the same reasons you pointed out in your video.

[@RoyRiley]

Good luck Kurt! Hope things go well for you. RR

[@LoraA4444]

Another great video! I love my IV and am always interested in learning more about its features. Please keep making videos. :)

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers Lora! Glad you liked this video.. more on the way soon. Thanks for your support. R

[@markb5139]

Great video. Decided to buy a 5D mk4 and needed some advice and came across your video. Thanks, perfect.

[@RoyRiley]

Glad you found it useful! Good luck with your new camera. RR

[@gw5608]

Fantastic videos, really enjoy your style and knowledge. I've had a 5D MKII for 10+ years and have gone through the thought process and research of updating my camera body. I understand most are going to mirrorless but for what I need (and the cost difference) I've bought a 5D MKIV and am looking forward to watching the rest of your videos.

[@everythingis2495]

Stick to the 5D2. The color tech. From my experience has gotten terrible.

[@russeli1941]

Thanks for this! All of the new gear has been very tempting but your video solidifies reality in that I don't need to splurge on what I don't absolutely need. I'm an enthusiast and have had my 5D4 for 2 years now and it still amazes me. Amen to your closing thoughts.

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks Russ. This week I found myself on a shoot with the latest canon R cameras, a bunch of Sony gear and even had a play with the latest LUMIX GH6. While all those cameras had something unique and interesting to offer I still think the 5d4 has the ability to jump up Jackie Cham style and roundhouse kick the crap out of the lot of them! Robust, reliable, highly capable. In the right hands it’s still very brilliant.

[@bingethink3491]

It's timely that I find your video. I love my 5D (my only full frame) but have been looking to a younger Canon. The R series cameras were the obvious first port of call, but you've given me pause for thought.

[@RoyRiley]

Well it might be useful to watch my latest video on the R5. I try to offer a balanced view on these cameras based on my experiences. Good luck with it all and let me k ow if you have any questions. R

[@123ljf1]

Great video....I'm stepping up from a 7DMK2 to the 5DMKIV and found your video very helpful in making my decision...

[@RoyRiley]

Glad to be of some help. Good luck with your new camera! RR

[@seanburke4760]

Hi Roy, I loved the video and always find your content interesting and informative. I have been wanting the mark iv for a while now and have read a lot of reviews etc but it's always great to actually hear someone talking about it. I shoot a variety of subjects with my mark ii but the trickest is when my wife is performing as a dancer often in tricky lighting conditions. I can get some good images from the mkii but I know the mkiv would help produce more keepers with better high ISO capabilities, faster shutter speed, 30mp etc under those conditions. I love the canon system and having looked at other options cannot see myself changing. Also a lovely, thoughtful way to end the video and I'm sure everybody feels the same. There is too much nastiness and horror in the world and one aspect of photography for me personally is the peace I feel producing the finished images. Let's hope for more peace very soon.

[@RoyRiley]

Lovely message. Thanks Sean. Don’t wish to confuse things but in the interest of balance It might be worth you having a look at the R cameras. Not to take anything away from the 5d range but the AF on those mirrorless cameras is rather amazing and for dance you might see some benefit. I know it’s more money and the lenses are very pricey but might be worth a look at least.

[@germanshepherdmom5411]

I just recently rebought the Canon 5d Mark iv. I have the Canon R5 as well as other cameras but the look that the 5d Mark iv sensor produces is just beyond and special over my modern mirrorless cameras. I’m so happy to have it back!

[@jefferyryan1219]

Wow thanks Roy. I was looking at one a week ago and after watching your review here I wish now I would have picked it up. I only have one full frame. The Canon 5D Mark II. The rest I have are crop sensor. I think I'm going to have to invest in a mark 4. The last I looked at one mind you low shutter count I think the shutter count was just under 6,000. And they wanted $1,900 for it. Oh different subject I'm really enjoying that ef300 millimeter it does a wonderful job. Thank you sir keep up the good work I really enjoy watching your videos your advice is priceless!

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks Jeffery. Much appreciated! My advice is always pretty much the same. Stick with what you have until you absolutely, 100% need to change or can very clearly see how something new will help your create pictures that are significantly better than what you already have.

[@peterlyonsphoto]

Great video, Roy! Enjoyed it very much. I have two 5D IVs and they’ve been my daily workhorses as a full-time pro shooting architecture and maritime/sailing. I’ve so far resisted migrating to the R5 because I’m one of the ten people in the world who really cares about having geotagged files. The 6D and 5DIV have GPS (with the option to turn it off for battery savings) and I find it such a useful feature that I’ll wait for it to hopefully re-emerge in the R1 (the R, R3, R5, and R6 do not have it). Until then, I’m definitely not being held back continuing with my current system. This is my favorite camera I’ve ever shot with and honestly it’s so familiar to me, I don’t have any sense of urgency to change it up just to keep up with the latest gear. These are such solid builds and are such a pleasure to use, I’m totally happy with this kit for another couple years to come.

[@RoyRiley]

wise wise words from someone who knows... stick with what works for you and spend your money on wine, women and song!

[@Drmikekuna]

Thanks for the video, Roy I couldn't agree more. I have a 5DIV (and a III) and also an R6 among a number of cameras. I'm an enthusiast who does professional work when asked to (it is not my main gig), and I find that I usually go straight to the 5DIV when I do jobs. Why? I have the lenses for the camera and I'm very familiar with the controls. I also know that the camera won't fail me when stressed. When I'm doing a real job I want to concentrate on the situation and I don't want to have to google how to change a camera setting. The R6 is fantastic and it is more advanced than the 5DIV in many aspects. However, I can't say that the photos look any better. I don't shoot wildlife or professional sports and the 5D's focusing capabilities and speed are more than what I need. All too often I have bought a new camera because I was seduced by an influencer who gushed covered the "amazing ISO performance" or the "fantastic autofocus" only to find the improvement marginal or not needed by me. My best photos are not camera specific, they are situation specific.

[@RoyRiley]

Wise words here! Thanks for your comment and thoughts. RR

[@franciscolistangarcia5498]

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[@franciscolistangarcia5498]

Interpretarlo. Espniol

[@dayeah765caoni3]

5D 3 and 4 are top of the line cameras. No doubt one can take pretty photos with them

[@Sadgira]

fully agree

[@jayse1195]

Hiya mate, I'm a new viewer and subscriber, but I've truly enjoyed the videos you've made. Fantastic, thank you so much. -Jay.

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers Jay! Really pleased you are enjoying the videos. Lots more in the pipeline.. anything in particular you would like to see videos on? Thanks for your subscription and support. RR

[@jayse1195]

@@RoyRiley Thank you for the reply! And well actually, yes! I'm from London myself but I've been living in China for 12 years now, and I'd love to understand more about the process of getting into reportage or journalistic work please, especially as a foreigner in living and working in another country. If anything along those lines might be possible then thank you so much! If not then I'll just keep enjoying your videos anyway :) Cheers, and all the very best, Jay.

[@anthonyde4314]

Talking about where this camera came from. The evolution of it. The body shape actually came from the T90. Great video as usual. Good for you. Also, thank you for the info, and your experiencing. I still shoot the mark 3, but will soon move up to the mark IV.

[@RoyRiley]

Spot on! What a camera the T90 was! It was my main camera for around 5 years back in the 90s before I made the big jump to the EOS 1.

[@sdhute]

Is it me or are the older canon bodies built better ?

[@stevenmeansphotography3861]

Very true

[@everythingis2495]

Better color. Hands down in the 2 than the 4

[@canon5dmk336]

Much better.

[@davidmalone4017]

Truly an outstanding video-I love my 5D mark 4-maybe someday I will go mirrorless but not now for sure!!!

[@RoyRiley]

Thank you. Cameras get so much attention when actually it’s a very small part of photography. Find the right tool for the job and stick with it!

[@leeriley66]

Splendid commentary. Much appreciated

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers LR. Much appreciated. R

[@waltereaton6404]

Great real world review. Thanks!

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers Walter! All the best. RR

[@AndySnap]

A very fine overview of the 5d mk4, which in many ways is also applicable to other Canon DSLRs. As a very long time Nikon user who works for a Canon equipped agency, I've found the Canons to be tough as old boots, no wonder Canon used to make it awkward to find the shutter count! Using the 7d & 7dmkii, I found the dynamic range to be what I got from Nikons 10 years ago, so I was unimpressed there. You're quite right that there's no need for mega-megapixel sensors, 30mp is more than enough for anything. The R5 is amazing, but doesn't feel like it has the DSLR build quality...time will tell. And yes the RF lenses are sharper than the EFs (though I think I might have been using kit that would benefited from a service...), so using an EF lens on an R5 via the adaptor won't look 'better', though the focus will be totally spot on, being mirrorless AF. What I don't like about the RF lenses is they are huge, a diameter much bigger than my hand, so gripping lenses while changing can be nerve-wracking..! And I've always shot jpeg, much to the derision/shock of social media. RAW is a backup file. Quite simply I shot with film for so long, I always aim to get the exposure right in-camera, no RAW tweaking, and never need big file sizes. Mind you 128mb jpeg from the R5 is more than plenty. Sorry for the rambling comment...!

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers Andrew! Good to hear from you. Interesting to hear what you say about the RF lenses. I will most likely go down that road at some point.. just not sure when! 128mb Jpeg is pretty incredible! Makes me wonder where it will ever stop. I seem to remember many years ago, when we first stated scanning negs and sending from jobs with those old Nokia mobiles we would try to keep the files quite small maybe a couple of hundred K’s compressed so they didn’t take hours to send. Crazy changes we have seen. Hope you are keeping well. R

[@opotopo1]

Great film. Thanks Roy for doing it. I've recently sold my R5 and plan to got to a 5D IV. I used to use a 5D III and loved it. Main reason for the change back is EVF. I much prefer OVF. All the best. Simon

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers Simon. Interesting move.. I know what you mean about the EVF, there seems to be a certain “distancing” that happens with an EVF that just isn’t there when your looking through a OVF

[@opotopo1]

@@RoyRiley Thanks Roy. I know what you mean about the 'distancing' effect. Its more to do with my eyes changing as I get older I think. An EVF is like looking at a (mini) TV screen and seems to make my eyes far more tired than an OVF does. Just watched your Leica film also. Like you, I've wanted to try an M for years and have recently bought one. It definitely is a more 'involved' experience! Happy photo-ing (as my wife calls it). Cheers Simon

[@Pvince73]

Always many tx for your pro, smart and sincere videos about « vintage » canon gear. I have professionally used the original 5D (3 or 4 years), the 5D II (12 years) and now the 5D IV (1,5 year) and I am more than happy with the latest! The extra resolution allowed me to sell my tilt-shift lens and rely on an 11-24mm with software correction instead for architectural photography and virtual tours. However, the 5DmkIV HDR function is only available in JPEG, totally unusable, compared to what we can achieve with Photoshop or even lightroom… I love the GPS feature but i reckon it drains the battery… I find files usable up to 3200 iso, double what it was with the 5D II and 4 times what it was with the original 5D

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks for this. You are right about the HDR jpeg thing. Not ideal. I very rarely use it, relying on the dynamic range of the RAW file most of the time. There was one occasion where I was working in really tricky challenging light conditions that were constantly changing. I tried everything but was struggling like crazy. I had a brain wave to try the HDR setting and it basically nailed it pretty well and spat out a JPEG that looked great! More last stop for the desperate than smart technique but it got me out of a hole.

[@robertmccutchan5450]

I really appreciate reviews from people who have real world experience. I'm selling my beloved motorcycle, and plan to buy my second new camera in 25 years with the money (I usually buy good used cameras). I was looking at maybe the R5, but after seeing this, the 5d Mark IV will more than suit my needs, plus I can upgrade my lenses with the money I save over the R5. I have a 90D (the first new camera I ever bought), a GoPro, and a Samsung S23 Ultra for video. I just want something that excels at still photographs that is durable. I REALLY wish camera manufacturers would come out with a basic, bare bones still camera, without video, that is simple an durable. My first camera I shot weddings with was a Minolta X-700....I miss those days. Thanks for posting!!

[@RoyRiley]

Indeed things have got more complicated. Its interesting to use a camera like the R5 for a while and then go pick up an old manual film camera and feel just how simplistic it all feels.. 5d4 still very good but the ninja like focusing of the R cameras are forcing mine into retirement

[@FlatWaterFilms]

1080p works fine for me. I'm starting to shoot more video in Manual Mode and photo's of course in AP. Purchased new in 2021, has C-Log but haven't used it yet. Since picking up a 17-40mm lens this year ($500 new), that's what I've been using 90% of the time. I shoot landscape mostly. Haven't used a tripod once this year, went fully handheld as a lot of shots I do are extreme and I like to shoot and run. As far as the Zacuto Viewfinder, It's always in my backpack. Never seen anyone else using one of these. It's a game changer!

[@RoyRiley]

Good to hear someone else is maki g using of the Z Finder! Been playing with the R5 lately. Yet to try the 4K HQ or 8k though

[@jiridvorak]

2024 and still have 5DSR, which is making money for me. I was for some time looking at R5 / R6 II, but as most of my schoots are done from tripod (real estate, virtual tours), new AI and focus functions doesnt play so big role in my workflow. So happy to stay with these old king for next year (no matter if 5D4 or 5DSR), both are last big models :) which will be here for maybe next decade until they die.

[@alanm.6096]

WIth the big 3 manufacturers now in a race to ‘innovate & replace’, I too will keep my 5DMkIV for another 5 years and turn off the ‘noise’ of camera reviews. In the end it’s about the RESULTS. And I’m getting exactly what I need. Hopefully more people will start to think that way and save a lot of money.

[@RoyRiley]

Indeed! Save your hard earned money and spend it wisely on wine, women and song!

[@attamans]

I recently purchase the 5D MK4 with log already loaded, just wanted a reliable camera for taking family photos, it's just a wonderful camera, no regrets.

[@RoyRiley]

Nice! I think the 5d4 will be a long time classic

[@davidlawery6527]

Solid Video. Not impressed yet with Canon R System, lack of Lens being the main gripe. 5Diii & 7Dii both from first available stock, absolutely no issues and still as good as Day 1. Old School still has some Mileage left in them. Have a good Christmas, stay safe & Keep well. 🇬🇧👍

[@PurpleDimension]

Thanks for the confirmation of your real life experience with 5Div. I recently acquired the same but was not sure whether it's the right choice or not (DSLR vs Mirrorless). After looking at your photos (btw, I really enjoy your mini-slide-show right after introduction of the video), it dawned on me the equipment is not everything, it is the composition! Your work emits energy, inspiration, story telling, and beauty. Please keep up the good work! Could you make some videos of your photos sometimes? Also the 5Div has a shutter life expectancy of 150,000 which is less than half of 1Dxiii's 400,000. Do you find it inadequate?

[@MrBlairskie]

I bought mine in 2018 and I love it still

[@RoyRiley]

Nice! Not tempted by a mirrorless camera?

[@MrBlairskie]

@@RoyRiley I am but there is nothing wrong with it so i cant justify upgrading. If the shutter dies on me I'll most likely get a R5

[@rolandholtz8250]

What you said there Roy, is very much how I feel and think. At the end you need to know those functions of the camera that you do use very well, so they don't become an issue on the shoot. Doing this seamlessly takes a time. Any change in system starts another learning curve, if it fosters creativity in your own work, not that I experienced it. I use they 5D Mark IV and a 7D Mark II each for the purpose it is best for and these will remain the cameras of choice for years to come. The way both function is very similar, if not the same. Plus but of course it’s the lenses. This is a point that is largely underestimated. Truth is that each and everyone of them add to complexity. Going to mirrorless means, you have to change all of it. I feel this is to much for most of us. Let them talk marketing and get the work done. (onemoresubby) Roland

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks again Roland. I appreciate your subscription and time commenting.. So I am now walking the path to mirrorless and its really does have its ups and downs but honestly.. with the work I am being commissioned to do currently.. the R5 is proving to be a very useful tool. best wishes to you. R

[@stevenaldridge96]

I bought one in January from John Lewis, it was the only place I could find a new one. Great camera.

[@RoyRiley]

Nice! Good guarantee from JL too!

[@johncordontravelstudiophot9608]

Hi Roy, thanks for the great review I have just ordered one secondhand on the strength of your excellent experience . What is the name of the viewfinder gadget you mentioned? John

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers John! It’s the Zacuto Z Finder but there are other options out there that might be a bit cheaper. My zacuto is quite old and originally was for shooting video on the mark 3 but seems to fit the mark iv fine. Using one of these viewfinders will not be right for everyone and it’s a slightly weird experience that takes a bit of getting g used to. Obviously the refresh rate is a bit slower on the screen than a modern EVF so worth bearing in mind! Wishing you the very best of luck with your photography. RR

[@gordonlynch616]

Hi Roy, did you ever make a video on the Zacuto viewfinder? I can not find it in your video list? I love your informative content.

[@RoyRiley]

Apologies no. It’s on my list!

[@metochites1]

Thanks for your thoughts. For me, the best camera by far. I only wish they could update this stupid 4k codec. Again thanks for the great video. Was nice to hear something diffrent, not only the "latest" and the "greatest"

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers! Appreciate your feedback. Dont think they will ever sort the 4K. RR

[@lisamarzano3851]

Thanks for the video. I recently. went from a Mark II to a Mark IV. I debated about a mirrorless, but felt like the cost was prohibitive and the technology might change really. quickly since it is still. kind of new. Your video helped remind me of the best features of a solid camera that will more than meet my needs.

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks Lisa! Good luck with your mk4

[@amagnier]

You will enjoy the great af on mkiv as mkii was pretty limited.

[@dbnoho]

I say this on every message board for anyone who thinks I must have the newest version etc. I've shot semi professionally as a headshot and sports photographer for a long time. It's been a great supplemental income and was never something I relied on or looked for, but just kept happening because one person showed a headshot to another and so on. For the last, I think 7 years, I shot on a Canon 5d classic. I use an 85mm lens (1.8) and a 50mm lens (1.4) All my stuff has been paid for from photoshoots well over a dozen times. I would like a better autofocus system, better rear screen and better low light would be very welcome. That said, you have to know how to use what you have, not think that the reason the photos aren't good, is because you haven't spent enough. At some point, I'll get the Mark IV. It's around $800-$900 now. And I'll use it on and off for a decade. Especially as people sell off their lens collections. But what you have, works. You just have to figure out how to use it.

[@RoyRiley]

Wise words from someone who knows. Many thanks. RR

[@kunstfuhrer]

Thank you Roy

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers! Hope keeping well amongst these crazy times

[@johnnyrothrock6675]

The canon 70D was the one of the first canon cameras that has a touchscreen and Wi-Fi. I own the 70d I really like the Wi-Fi feature as I can easily give the photo to someone after I shoot them during events. This camera in the same way has been a workhorse like a 5d to me I have shot a lot of random stuff (from portraits to astrophotography) and it produces good images. The 4k crop on the 5Dmk4 is the same as apsc which I actually like(but it’s just me) I am definitely thinking on a 5Dmk4 as my next camera.

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks for this. How do you find the Wifi in terms of reliability. I never seem to make it work very well

[@johnnyrothrock6675]

@@RoyRiley I discovered its good on iphones, but as soon as you put it in sleep it looses the signal, but other than that I think its pretty relible but I guess its just me knowing it...

[@timeslikethese6379]

Glad I recently found your channel, Roy. And I couldn't resist a video on the 5Dmk4! Have used one for several years. I think Canon is making a serious mistake in not building a 5Dmk5 along side the mirrorless models, which I have no interest in. Just add a flip screen and possibly a slightly larger sensor (though I'd buy it just for the screen) and they'd be satisfying many in their traditional slr customer base. Forcing customers to go to mirrorless is, imo, the wrong approach to marketing. Leaving money on the table, as they say. Good channel here, straightforward approach. I'm subscribed and will be going back through your older videos and looking forward to new ones. -----Thanks, Michael

[@RoyRiley]

What a brilliant comment to see first thing in the morning! Thank you Michael. I agree it’s a big shame no more cameras in the 5d range. They are all brilliant cameras and certainly not to be overlooked. Lots of people still shooting with the original 5d and Mk2 still getting great pictures.. I have reluctantly dipped my toe into the world of RF cameras and lenses and will be making a video sometime soon about the experience if you are interested. It’s certainly not all the shiny positive experience many others would have you believe! All the very best and thanks again for your comment and subscription. RR

[@sdhute]

@@RoyRiley fore the inexpensive RF lenses are not as good built as the EF versions many are used to

[@RoyRiley]

@@sdhute I think we need to see how they hold up over time. I have EF lenses that I have been using for nearly 30 years old and still work fine. I wonder if the RF lenses will still be going strong in decades to come

[@krisceuppens5273]

It would be yfor canon to make a 5d v, then Nikon would gove me a d850s or d880 . That would be superb!!

[@RoyRiley]

@@krisceuppens5273 yes! But the 850 still punches it’s weight.?? any thoughts on the z9? I hear mixed reviews

[@imagestudio3861]

Thank you so much 💓

[@RoyRiley]

Take this information and use it wisely! I expect great things from you! All the very best. Roy

[@natestain7103]

I upgraded from a 5d MkII recently to a 5d MkIV simply because it was the next best option to get all my awesome EF-L lenses on a body that has AI Servo autofocus video. 1080 P at 60fps will do just fine for me. I prefer a softer cinematic quality of images anyway.

[@tonyburford421]

Really enjoyed the vid Roy, I’ve just replaced my 5D3 with a 5D4 bought second hand with only 2k clicks. I was tempted by the R6 but I don’t really need all the bells and whistles that mirrorless offers. For me the 5D series is a good fit and really enjoy shooting with the. I also found your settings vid very handy, many thanks.

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks Tony. Good luck with your new camera! RR

[@adiblasi]

Hi Tony - I am considering doing the same thing. Have you been enjoying the variance from the 5D3 to the 5D4? If I may ask, what did the 5D4 cost you? Did you sell your 3? Thanks! - Alfred

[@tonyburford421]

@@adiblasi Hi Alfred. I think with the 5D4 it’s definitely a case of evolution rather than revolution. It’s just like a 5D3 only better in every way. I’m very pleased with it. I did sell my 5D3 maybe I should have kept it as it was mint. I paid £1400 for the 5D4 with quite a few extras.

[@adiblasi]

Hi Tony! Thank you for the feedback!

[@adiblasi]

@@tonyburford421 Hi Tony - I embraced your comment of 'evolution' and made the Mark IV purchase. Holy cow, I really like the new features, and the colors are really coming through! Thank you for your responses - it definitely helped with the purchase decision! - Alfred

[@cambsflyer42]

Great review, it tickles me pink in the press or bias reviews how a camera can be the Holy grail, then next year obsolete. Rubbish, the 5d4 is the last stop gap to the top large camera bodies. It's build and functionality is equally as good as any mirrorless, all cameras take slightly different tones in a photo, but that doesn't mean it's old hat. Too many are tempted by flashy sales techniques, however a top camera seller. No names, I asked when buying this last year do I go with this or mirrorless, and the guy spoke in a quite voice and told me 10 reasons why to go with the 5. Main thing like phones. They always want you to buy the latest, and make you feel like you can't survive without it. Listen to sence and use your money more wisely.

[@rahimjansha4163]

I bought one brand new yesterday 🫶🏼 an amazing camera can you do more videos about? To teach us how to use it bcz many are just starting shooting and it be great if you some video explaining some key features.

[@RoyRiley]

I have another video on my channel talking about the settings I tend to use with the 5d4

[@udaymistry8774]

Another fantastic video . It’s an amazing camera, defo a work horse . Quick question how do I get live view in manual mode , pls . I don’t know what I have pressed but I get a black screen . This is just in manual mode

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers. I wonder if it’s black because your manual exposure settings are not set at the correct exposure. Select a slower shutter speed and or wider aperture or higher iso and maybe the live view will begin to show?? Just an idea. Let me know. R

[@udaymistry8774]

@@RoyRiley also is it because I am using studios lights . As I am shooting between f11 and f16 for food photography ?

[@YitzYBerlin]

Hit the info button (a few times?). You may have turned off the display's information and it's gone black. (i know; I've done it too.)

[@alansach8437]

The 5d series cameras are still amazing workhorses. It all depends what you use your camera for. For landscape and portrait photography the 5d iv is a great camera. But if you need 12 or 20 fps to capture fast action, it just isn't going to cut it.

[@RoyRiley]

Bang on Alan! Not tempted by an R5?

[@maik723]

Been using this cam for many years for hybrid shooting and I swear by it.

[@RoyRiley]

Nice! Not tempted by the R5?

[@pj2614]

@@RoyRiley Not yet. My 5dmIV has served me well and has made me lots of $$$$$$.

[@pj2614]

@@RoyRiley you got me thinking. I'm 85% sure I will buy R5 before the end of the month.

[@RoyRiley]

@@pj2614 I am in roughly the same place. Let me know how it goes if you get one

[@johnnyswanepoel1976]

Hi Roy.Great video. I shoot both video and photography. For stills I will always stick to the Mark 4 - for the video I need RAW - greater stops - which leads me to either get the BMPCC4k or even the RED Komodo, BUT, coming from a film background the DSLR vs mirrorless has a feeling of film vs HDR. I prefer a slightly softer look vs the complete sharp HDR look, and that's probably one of the main reasons for me NOT to switch over to the mirrorless route. I find it to be way more cinematic than the complete overall sharpness of the mirrorless. Just a matter of preference I suppose.

[@FloridaTwoWheelAdventures]

I’m new to higher quality cameras as I’ve always used crop sensor bodies and I’ve been kind of all over the map with my search. Currently, I own a 5DM2 and an EOS-R. I really wanted the 5DM4 but it is still $1000 more than the EOS-R so I saved the money. But, even though I’m getting used to the R, I continue to wonder if I’d find the 5DM4 more to my liking. The R produces better images than the M2 I have but the ease of use the 5DM2 provides me still has me wondering if I made the correct decision. Not owning any of the RF glass further makes me second guess my decision. The EF glass works fine on the R but man, I don’t know. Maybe when Canon pushes the price of the new 5DM4’s down to get rid of them, I’ll pick one up. Or in the interim, maybe I’ll make friends with the R!

[@RoyRiley]

Just use what you have and focus on improving your photography skill and knowledge. Think about what you are trying to show or say with your work. Learn about what inspire you and look deep into the world around you to find new stuff to shoot in a way that is unique to you. Do t get too caught up with cameras. They are just boxes with holes in that allow us to take pictures… you have a really great set up that is capable of capturing amazing world class pictures.. stop worrying about cameras and get out there and shoot! Hope this helps! All the very best. RR

[@FloridaTwoWheelAdventures]

@@RoyRiley thanks! I know you’re right, and I’ve been telling the curious side of my brain the exact same thing. I think I’ll blame KZbin for this problem! The bottomless pit of videos showing all these new and fancy gadgets can send someone into a spiral. Thanks for your videos, they’re very useful to a new guy like me.

[@GRAHAM1514]

Very informative thanks , I am still thinking of upgrading to a 5D Mk iv

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers! What are you currently using and what do you most like to shoot?

[@GRAHAM1514]

@@RoyRiley I have only recently got into Wildlife Photography, Just being a occasional photographer I started off with a Canon1300D with the usual lens , I recently purchased a Sigma 150-600c and that's when the problems started , the 1300D just can`t cope with that ! Do you think the 5D will be ok for this new hobby of mine ? Cheers

[@RoyRiley]

Well the 5d4 is a very capable camera. If you like DSLR cameras then its hard to go wrong with a 5d4. I would at least have a look at something like the 90D (crop sensor will give extra reach for wildlife and will be fine with your previous standard lens) and maybe also have a look at one of the R cameras with an adaptor. (i find the R cameras do have better AF for moving subjects) I have no idea what will work best with the sigma lens though im afraid. probably a certain amount of trial and error will need to be involved! @@GRAHAM1514

[@GRAHAM1514]

@@RoyRiley Many thanks for your advice ,I shall look around at all options probably today as I cant go out ,rain ,rain and more rain ! you have a good channel here so I have subbed to it ,Take care Graham

[@RoyRiley]

@@GRAHAM1514 cheers Graham. Much appreciated. Let me know if you have any other questions. All the best. RR

[@DessieTots]

RR, don’t forget about the Canon T-90 from 1984ish. This was like a spaceship landing next to a bi-plane. I believe this camera started the now familiar ergonomics used since. I used two bodies plus L lenses at a daily newspaper, much to the consternation and muffled schoolboy giggles of my peers. Roll on a few short years and all you can see at press events are Canon EOS 1’s and then EOS 1D’s and the rest is history until Nikon ate their porridge and launched the D3.

[@RoyRiley]

Ahhhh yes! The T90.. I had one alongside the older A1 with the coughing shutter.. like everyone else I jumped to the EOS system somewhere in the 90’s. In many ways it was a great age for photography, especially newspaper photography. Which paper did you shot for?

[@DessieTots]

Any newspaper that would pay me. I suppose I was quite lucky in getting shifts within a few weeks of graduating from college at the Sunday Mail in Glasgow and the short lived Scottish broadsheets. After that it was anything and everything, almost. Dave Robertson - Deputy Picture Editor Sunday Mail (R.I.P) was one of the good guys and helped me tremendously. I could have done with a few more like him.

[@michaelk5173]

Came across this video, and have to say it was one of the best i have watched on the 5D Mk IV. I have been sittin’ on the fence about getting one…. Sadie story - i had one…. But due to a horrific tax error (not mine i assure you) I had to sell off all my gear, which included that lovely 70-200 zoom, and several others that covered the range from 10 to 70mm. I loved that camera. I am honestly surprised that’s it still commands such a premium, but dang, it simply is that good…. I am going to wait a wee bit longer before deciding. I wouldn’t mind a used one, but getting the shutter counts seems impossible. I think i WILL hit the subscribe button. Thanks for a review that was honest… and also your compassion that you showed at the close…. That actually is why i decided to subscribe. Always be the best human you cab be!👍🫶🏻

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks Michael for this great comment and sorry to hear of your tax related loss.. that’s a tough one. Your day will come again though and high times will be back with you.. thanks for your subscription and kind words.. actually means a lot to me after a tricky day.. onwards and upwards my friend! Best wishes. RR

[@lifetimesofamultiplemediam1003]

Interestingly, I just shot a job with a Canon 5d mk2, and an EOS 1n… They worked very very well together. I'd like to add the mk 4 to my arsenal at some point. The R system doesn't interest me.

[@RoyRiley]

nice combo!

[@michaelkearney7923]

The GPS settings can burn up the battery,even when you’re not using it. I keep the battery out of the camera when not in use. Love the touch screen. Have had great success with ISO 12800.

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks for the info

[@philsheath]

I moved systems earlier this year from Canon to Sony and while I love the Sony I kept and can’t sell my 5d mk2 and mk4 and on occasions I take the Canons out and am still astounded at the quality of both the cameras and the images they produce. I haven’t told my wife I kept them she thinks I sold them to fund the Sony!

[@RoyRiley]

Haha! They will probably be good investments for the future!

[@trogers3303]

Very cool video, lots of great points since I just bought this Canon 5D mark 1V like a week ago, yes one week ago (08-2023) cause everything I read about it points to it being a great professional camera , I am so reluctant to go to the ever so dollar consuming mirrorless cameras, and I am not one of those people who must always the newest trend. I saw where they said that even with the overheating, locking up, the Canon R6 is much better and it is the future, the only feature I like with it is the eye tracking, so I am on the fence about returning this Mark 1V for the Canon EOS R6 mark 11, I do a lot of wildlife photography (mostly birding in flight) , some portrait, lots of Landscape and seascapes. I am as confused as a 66 year old retiree taking a Algebra test. I have 30 days to return it. Up in the air with this one. :)

[@RoyRiley]

Hell! Get the R6 mk2 as well! You only live once! I’m joking.. honestly I dont think you will be disappointed with either camera. They are both awesome. (I have limited experience with the R6 but use the R5 everyday. For wildlife the AF on the R cameras is superior but the 5d4 is no slouch.. use what you have for a few days and then see how you feel maybe.

[@trogers3303]

My intentions exactly. Very cool.👋@@RoyRiley

[@Xdc5]

@@trogers3303how has your experience been so far?

[@trogers3303]

@@Xdc5 relatively good with wildlife, especially the eye tracking, it is a game changer, I still haven't gotten the WAW factor out of it as yet, but there are still a lot of other features that are cool and I haven't used yet. I think that its a decent camera, I will keep it.

[@N3onL1zard]

Love the camera talk, but can we talk about the .50cal bullet on the shelf?

[@RoyRiley]

Haha. Good spot!

[@mikecardan]

5D mark iv is an awesome camera for stills.

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers Mike. Superior to many of the newer cameras

[@DavidSk2683]

Superior to the Canon EOS R? Which one is better for portraits?

[@mikecardan]

@@DavidSk2683 I don't know about EOS R. but 5D mark iv will produce excellent stills.

[@mikozaire58]

Great review - However, you need to practise looking into the camera, as our host we need you to speak to us and maintain focus. I would also suggest zooming in a little so we can see your face a little larger. Content and filmwork/edit is fantastic! :)

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks for the tips!

[@Twobarpsi]

I'm thinking of buying a used one!

[@RoyRiley]

Nice! Good luck with it

[@Twobarpsi]

@@RoyRiley thanks!!

[@Ataylor756]

Hi.... What's your thoughts between the 5d iv and 1dx mk iii? Obviously there's a big price jump but the lower sensor res is apparent. I mostly shoot wildlife. I want to stay with a dslr

[@RoyRiley]

Good question! The 1dx 3 is going to be quicker that’s for sure but obviously you lose resolution to the 5d4.. not thought of a crop sensor like the 90d? Gets you closer to the wildlife with that 1.6 crop factor…

[@Ataylor756]

@@RoyRiley thanks for the reply! I actually have a 90d but was looking to upgrade from it as I like the full frame camera options

[@RoyRiley]

@@Ataylor756 my heart given advice.. stick with what you have. Spend your money on good glass and living large!

[@ricknicholson5894]

Late to the party. I have the 5D mk4 but also two different Fuji cameras with film simulations. These film sims which can be modified for me have been a game changer when shooting JPEG's. The Fuji sims make the 5D mk4 in JPEG mode more like a brick. But don't get me wrong, I love my Canon.

[@michaelmoore1926]

Re GPS I also find it drains the battery rather quickly

[@RoyRiley]

Made me double check to make sure my GPS is off!

[@adamvillata3270]

I am thinking of the 5d mark IV but does the lack of image stabilisation in the body of the camera matter ? Cheers Adam

[@RoyRiley]

Hi Adam, Really it comes down to what you shoot, IBIS is an amazing piece of technology but it does not account for subject movement so if for example you are shooting a person who might move a little then you will still get some blur.. this is where old school rules still help.. using a shutter speed fast enough to freeze the action rather than depending on IS. However if you mostly shoot static scenes then the IBIS is a great help. I have been using the R5 for as while now and am amazed at how good the IBIS is when used appropriately. What do you most like to shoot and what are you currently using?

[@adamvillata3270]

Thanks for replying so quickly. I am using a 750d and I want to upgrade. I shoot landscape, cityscape and night photography my dog. Cheers Adam

[@RoyRiley]

@@adamvillata3270 Honestly I would stick with what you already have! Spend your money on wine women and song.. Also your dog! Full frame camera require full frame lenses and the whole lot costs a fortune.

[@KPAki1Ler]

Watching this video makes me miss my 5D IV....

[@RoyRiley]

What you got instead!

[@KPAki1Ler]

@@RoyRiley I sold my 5D IV and 4x L lenses for... an R5 + RF 24-70 2.8L IS USM lens! I know it is a massive upgrade in all aspects, but I do have this nostalgic memory about how much I enjoyed the 5D for the OVF, the robust build quality( It felt like I could throw it off a cliff and it'd be fine), the fixed screen! (I know, I know). I shoot landscape and woodlands etc, so a flip screen can be helpful for shooting at low angles etc but I do think the fixed screen gave me a better sense of security in not breaking it!

[@RoyRiley]

@@KPAki1Ler me too! I have been using the R5 lately and although it’s brilliant in so many ways.. I still reach for the 5d4 and it feels like a nice old pair of slippers.. I have a video about the R5 on my channel if you are interested.

[@KPAki1Ler]

@@RoyRiley I'm considering buying a 5D IV again 2nd hand and possibly switching between the 2 cameras just for the fun of being able to use a classic DSLR when I want.

[@RoyRiley]

@@KPAki1Ler I would be interested to hear how you get on. Going backwards can be an interesting journey. I am a dinosaur so find it easier than some might!

[@enri_1986]

Hi Roy, I just wanted to let you know that your video did not appear on my subscriptions tab as a subscriber. Wondering why that is. Hope you can figure it out!

[@RoyRiley]

Hi Enrique. No idea I’m afraid. I will do some research. Apologies if it is something I have done wrong! All the very best. RR

[@geraldthompson8142]

This camera body might be old but I like the camera and I'm going to buy me a full frame camera and it will be the Canon 5d mark 4 cause it takes wonderful pictures and you can't beat that. And with all the new cameras out I will get it at a cheap price hopefully one that's in mint condition and not something someone trying to get rid off

[@RoyRiley]

buy wisely..

[@solodrivingschool3989]

Hi Roy i have my original eos 5 camera with the USM lenses Does the 5D mk4 work with these USM lenses Mike

[@RoyRiley]

I don’t know. Which lenses do you have?

[@solodrivingschool3989]

Hi Roy i have my original eos 5 camera with the USM lenses Does the 5D mk4 work with these USM lenses Mike

[@raaj0neel]

5d mrk iv live veiw af not working when back button focus enabled in still photography. What is the solution?

[@RoyRiley]

I’m afraid without having your camera in front of me I do not know.

[@palouuk]

I'm curious. A small Leica, a bust of Spider-man, a round of ammunition and a Steve McCurry book. To paraphrase Hal David, "What's all about, Riley?" Have I missed anything else?

[@RoyRiley]

Good spotting! To quote Mary Poppins “a few of my favourite things” all have personal connection so I like to have these things around the place. There is a boatload more though!

[@palouuk]

@@RoyRiley I guess "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar". Anyway, saw this and thought of you kzbin.info/www/bejne/opSyh6itlM10rsU

[@RoyRiley]

@@palouuk interesting video! Thanks for sending that over. I think Spider-Man was defo a Nikon man. Always been something about those old Nikon’s that is just way cooler than anything else.

[@everythingis2495]

I keep getting atrocious color casts shooting raw with the 5D4 Is there a preset im missing.? Cyans are garbage. And unlike the 5d2 I only have a few usable images from it.

[@RoyRiley]

What white balance settings are you using?

[@everythingis2495]

@@RoyRiley Ive tried them all..I usually stick to cloudy or shade even those have the more warm casts.. Daylight is like the big no no for me. It makes blue sky on sunny day look atrocious. I have been shooting for 25 years. I cant get it right. for example, try taking a shot in lush greenery no direct light. Diffuse. Typical of what you see in waterfall photos in the PNW. Try to get a 'neutral tone'. not warm and not cool per-say. No greens magentas. 5D2 could nail it. every time. Everything else fails. If you or anyone could offer me some advice here, Id appreciate it. I bought a white card to shoot with. So I can see what the hell is going on here.

[@adventure9606]

Having owned the 5D 2,3,4 and now the R5 for many paid jobs I go with the MK 4 because the optical view finder gives me accurate information if I have to go inside a property then outside into the sunlight a few times. When I use the R5 in the same situation the view finder brightness has to be adjusted for the different lighting environment to get an accurate photo, at least that is my experience. If I stay outside or stay inside for the entire job the R5 can get the job done, but when shooting any fast moving subjects the R5 with 12 or 20 fps and eye or regular auto focus is pure shooting heaven. Nothing like it.

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks for your thoughts on this. We have the same camera line up pretty much. Im shuffling between the MK4 and R5 same as you. I did another video on the R5 if you interested on my channel. I have had various issues with the EVF but not the same as you are describing. mine seems to handle changing light pretty well and sort of adjusts accordingly as I go along.

[@jknh05]

i am in such a big dilemma i can't choose between the 5d mark iv or the r6 it's 2023 and i still don't know which one to get, i currently have an 1100D but i have been working with a 5d mark iv at school a lot that's why i liked it just the way it worked but somehow i want to turn to mirrorless for a true glow up but i really don't know😭 hope u could help me out

[@RoyRiley]

That’s a very big dilemma you have there! Honestly they are both great cameras and so tricky to choose between. Maybe rent or borrow an R6 for a few days and see how you get on with it. I have a video on my channel about the R5 that you might find interesting ( obviously not an R6 but there are many similarities) my other more left field option for you would be to just stick with the 1100D maybe add an extra lens or 2 and save your money?

[@jknh05]

@@RoyRiley i have watched that one! really liked it btw. The thing is also the 1100D doesn't has touch which is really a thing i need, i will be doing wedding / event photography and fashion/portrait more professional assignments in the future that's why i need an upgrade

[@RoyRiley]

@@jknh05 What lenses are you thinking about? Worth pricing this in because some of the RF glass is very expensive

[@jknh05]

@@RoyRiley the 50 mm f1.8 or 50mm f1.2 but compared to the ef they are indeed quite a bit more expensive

[@josephpeppard561]

Hi Roy, an interesting video and thoughts on the Canon 5D Mark IV. Having used the 5D Mark III and Mark IV extensively I can say they are truly outstanding DSLR cameras especially when paired with Canon's excellent lenses. As you have stated before they are reliable workhorse cameras that simply get the job done. Unfortunately, it was necessary to sell my Canon DSLR cameras to help fund my Canon EOS R5 camera and lenses. I too am interested in the new technological advances as it relates to making my job easier and more efficient. With better autofocus, IBIS, great color, and decent dynamic range the R5 is a remarkable tool. Having used the R5 for close to a year, I can say that with the Canon EF and RF lenses it is the finest photographic tool I have used to date. It's weakness or achilles heel has been with video. Although I've read the latest firmware has addressed some of the overheating issues, time will tell. However, I feel there are better cameras and solutions for hybrid photographers or videographers e.g. Sony a1 and Nikon Z9. Thanks so much for the interesting content from a professional photographer's perspective.

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers Joseph. Really all the camera we talk about here are just amazing picture taking machines! What a period of time for technical change we are living through as photographers. I started my career shooting large format black and white and now we have smart phones, drones and cameras like the R5.. heaven knows where we will be in a few years? Hopefully not Slaves to AI..

[@josephpeppard561]

@@RoyRiley Yes, I couldn't agree more Roy. But I have to say at my age some of these technological advances are nice, e.g. autofocus enhancements, IBIS and dynamic range. Having said that, I still shoot film for my portrait projects and my clients love the results. As I have mentioned I'm a dinosaur as well Roy and learned photography shooting film. So I guess you could say I'm a keeper of the flame. I'm hoping that film will live on for years to come. Take care Roy and thanks for the great content.

[@sarahholling3660]

🙏

[@RoyRiley]

Thank Ypu Sarah! Much appreciated. Good luck with your photography. RR

[@Meatbrish]

I'm considering one of these now to replace my 6d mark 2, would you still say it's a good buy in 2023?

[@RoyRiley]

It’s a tricky one because the 5d4 is still a brilliant camera but mirrorless seems to be everywhere and I would say could certainly be well worth considering. We each have to find our own way and it very much depends on what and how you shoot and I guess budget. Can I ask what you wish a new camera to do that your 6d2 cannot do? Sometimes it worth just sticking with what we already have!

[@Meatbrish]

@@RoyRiley I started doing a few weddings, I've now had a few more enquiries so wanted a new main camera that could use the EF lenses I already have, then use the 6D as my second camera, I wanted the duel card slot for security. I have the M50 mirrorless and love it. I can't afford the R5 yet and like you said the RF lenses are very expensive, I looked at getting the EOS R but then it only has one card slot, I'm in a real dilemma. Budget is about £1500. Thanks for your help.

[@RoyRiley]

@@Meatbrish I wonder if it’s worth considering a used R6?

[@Meatbrish]

@@RoyRiley I did consider that, then just use the converter for the EF lenses. I thought that maybe a mirrorless and a DSLR at the same time might confuse me, the two different viewfinders etc. Is the R6 as good as the Mk 1V tho?

[@RoyRiley]

@@Meatbrish the honest truth is all of the cameras we have mentioned are all very very capable and the choice can often make it almost impossible to make a decision. Just choose one that you can afford and feel comfortable with. Buy it. Shoot with it for a while. See how you feel after that. You can always trade it for something g different if not perfect. Sometimes there is no 100% right answer.

[@Magurab5]

👍✌️

[@RoyRiley]

Cheers!

[@V3ryM3tal]

It's a real shame that the RF lenses are so pricey compared with some of the nicer EF glass. I switched to an RF body just for fun and to see what the fuss is about and I commend Canon for making a great product in their bodies, but I feel completely priced out by the RF system glass. I still use a 5DIII from time to time for fun but the R body just beats it in so many ways it's getting harder to pick up the 5D.

[@RoyRiley]

I hear you. Deep pockets required! But I guess that’s always been the case to some extent. When I bought my first EOS cameras and L Lenses back in the 90’s it was the most money I could ever imagine spending and was certainly the biggest investment I had ever made and took years to pay back the loan. Best move I ever made though!

[@V3ryM3tal]

@@RoyRiley You're right. Relatively, professional glass is expensive, always has been, and I'm not really complaining. Just upset because I can't justify the amount I'd have to spend to build a serviceable kit with the new stuff 😂

[@thedude808]

Prices of some really good EF mount L lenses are down a bit, at least on my local buy and sells, from people moving systems when going mirrorless. You could always use the EF adapter. I know it adds a bit of length to the lens but if you love the body that much there's no reason you can't put EF lenses in front of it.

[@V3ryM3tal]

@@thedude808 Absolutely agree with you about the older but still very good EF glass coming down in price. I don't know why, I just don't like adapters. I've used them on several bodies before and just don't like them. It's not that I love the body per se (I actually think the R is ugly and the dials buttons aren't as well placed), more that I feel the advantages some mirrorless bodies offer do actually have legitimate carryover to some of the jobs I do. Anyway, thanks for your reply, I'm really just nitpicking!

[@thedude808]

@@V3ryM3tal I can't say for sure because I'm still in the ef system, but the canon adapters are supposed to be excellent quality. The only purpose they serve is as a spacer, because the focal plane is so much further ahead on RF bodies. They even have some fancier ones that add the new control ring on the adapter.

[@solodrivingschool3989]

Hi Roy here is the list of canon USM lenses i have Canon ef 35-135 ultrasonic Canon ef 20-35 ultrasonic Canon ef 100-300 ultrasonic

[@RoyRiley]

Honestly I’m not 100% sure but I believe they should work. I had the 20-35 and I seem to remember that worked fine on earlier digital cameras. Apologies I can’t give you a more concrete answer

[@palouuk]

I still don't know which to buy. 5DS or 5D mk4? It's the least of all our worries at the mo though. Good to see Spider-Man in the background, as 7yo he made me want to pick up a camera.

[@RoyRiley]

Nice spot! wondered if anyone would notice it! Both very capable cameras. Not really sure which one is best TBH.

[@palouuk]

@@RoyRiley I can't even decide what to grow on my veg plot this year. Which one is fit for purpose? I've only ever known the 5d mk2 (and the 20d before that). RE Spidey maybe it's an alliteration thing? Peter Parker, Roy Riley, etc. Perhaps we need to ask @MarkMann (kzbin.info)

[@RoyRiley]

@@palouuk stick with your mark 2 and spend the money on wine women and song and maybe a new lens or two! What lenses do you currently have?

[@palouuk]

​@@RoyRiley I have four 50mm (3 canons and a youngnou), 24-70mm, 100mm , 75-300mm (it's the cheapo kit lens one). Maybe I need something to replace the 75-300. Maybe I need something wider than 24mm. I just feel like I need an extra body as a backup.

[@chrissmith7069]

@@palouuk have you considered the 6D mark I 😉

[@bolleolympus]

👍👍❤❤👌👌💕💕

[@michaeltuffin8147]

It's disingenuous to imply the 5D4 autofocus sucks compared to mirrorless models. Apples and oranges. Obviously, all mirrorless cameras, regardless of manufactuer, have superior focus systems. That's one of the benefits of mirrorless. The only other real benefit of mirrorless, imho, is weight. I don't consider and EVF and exposure preview a +, since I've been shooting since 1981 and much prefer an OVF to laggy, inaccurate EVFs....And, yes, the R6 and R5 EVFs do lag. And if a photographer needs a camera that blasts 30fps, he's doing something wrong. I'm saying this as a photographer who owns 12 DSLRs and 3 Mirrorless bodies. You also admitted (and thank you for that) that you had loaner bodies for a short time.

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks for this. Just my opinions based on my experience. in many ways we seem to agree on most of these things but I do not like your use of the word "disingenuous" because it implies that I am either lying or holding back information in some way. Neither of which are true (why would I?) . I am just presenting my opinion based on my experience so far. You have your opinions based on your many years of experience too. I very much respect that. I would love to see some of your work and hear your real world experience of working with Mirrorless and DSLR Cameras. Feel free to share if you so wish.All the very best and thanks for your support. RR

[@africanhistory]

WiFi works as u said the more understand it the better. Not good for transferring videos

[@RoyRiley]

Agreed!

[@natestain7103]

AI servo focusing in video mode… bam that's it

[@godfreysmith4703]

Its a pity the Prices are still so high

[@RoyRiley]

High price to some, good value reliable tool to others. Depends very much on your perspective and use.

[@godfreysmith4703]

Yes that's true but for us who are in the Caribbean you have to think about buying it and then paying just as much to bring it in the island. Customs, duty etc from America.

[@RoyRiley]

@@godfreysmith4703 that’s rough! We have high prices in the UK too. At least you get to live somewhere very beautiful!

[@richardbierman9856]

It's not a Nikon d850 though.......

[@RoyRiley]

Haha. You are entirely correct!

[@HezyTech]

Time to move onto mirrorless my friend. DSLR’s are old news

[@zvitkovits]

Mirrorless makes producing images easier and is superior regarding video production. For most experienced and skilled photographers transferring towards mirrorless means hardly any advantages in productivity or quality but high investments/expanses. I see no need to rush. The mirrorless hype is marketing driven, not tech driven. Thats why I appreciate reviews like this: down to earth, reasonable and based on professional experience.

[@RoyRiley]

@@zvitkovits great to hear your thoughts and perspective Chris. All very good points. Thanks for your comment. Cheers! RR

[@RoyRiley]

Thanks HezyTek. Interesting perspective. I guess we each have to find our own way with these things. All the very best to you and yours. RR

[@HezyTech]

@@RoyRiley Saying it's marketing driven is a huge fallacy. I run a production company so my main aim is for my freelancers to get the best images and videos with as little work as possible. Eye auto focusing across most of the view finder is a huge leap and must not be understated. I could teach someone to take good photos in 1-2 days with an R6. The same can't be said for DSLR's The cost of admission to DSLR's in Canon's eco system is very low. The adapter for EF lenses is cerca £100 and works flawlessly. Not to mention IBIS not only for the finished result, but for the ease of use down the viewfinder. Don't let the changing of the market take you. Change with the market...otherwise you'll end up like Kodak who thought old technology was still relevant. I get that people are old school and like things the way they are - but that's not how the world works. The R5 and R6 are brilliant cameras. And if anything wait for the mark 2 versions of these cameras to launch before jumping in. Either way, those DSLR's will soon reach the trash can.

[@Fifthimagez]

Great video

[@solodrivingschool3989]

Thanks Roy even Canon dont give a diffinitive answer so i feel im a litttle nearer to answering it than i was before. I dont want to invest in a MK4 if it doesnt work or ruin lenses if they wont fit Thanks for your time regards Mike