Is the APA Black Mamba Pro REALLY as Fast as They Claim?

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Have no clue what happened to the video as it skips over the start of breaking down the arrows, I will look into the upload to see what happened! I don’t have to reupload the video somehow a gap got into it but I can live with it Also I guess I should have had the garmin closer to read speeds not at 15 yards from me How ever I don’t think there will be much difference I will retest this and see!

[@2975lift]

Cool to see someone doing something different other than Matthews or hoyt i think im going to try out a darton this year

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

That new darton is sick!

[@dustinclays4027]

I’ve always thought the apa bows were pretty awesome. Huge fan of the solid limbs.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I agree! Have you shot one? They are very smooth I’m a huge fan of the draw , I was very hesitant when watching others reviews of the draw cycle but it’s smooth and sweet unlike what they all found

[@AnthonyJones-p9n]

That really is a cool bow love the color is banging great choice

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Right the rust is SICK!

[@wcwcgarner2717]

That bow is awesome I like the color and the options it comes wt

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Yessir hard to beat it!

[@Gibsonlife573]

So I'm running 250 grains up front of Victory VAP Elite Arrow which is kind of heavy and it's 26 1316 at carbon-to-carbon and I'm weighing 480 grains with a single bevel Broadhead from Vantage Point Archery

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Nice!

[@johnnewcomb5162]

306-307 fps with the 84 lbs is what the speed will be . 345-350 you can tune the bow and get those speeds in tuning, the main thing at 27 inches that bow was basically losing no speed going heavier arrows so the bow is nice. 311-312 at 84 pounds and some tweaking with the 444 grain arrow is moving.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Agreed the speeds were very impressive the heavier the arrow got as it was not far off my triax with wake limbs Also the garmin was 15 yards down range that also changes the speeds significantly, but honestly its speeds that matter more to me

[@randallflores-qr8cs]

Unless I'm off with my math....that bow is about 30fps slower than they claim. Not hating on the bow, but if they are that far off, it speaks volumes to me about the integrity of the company. Speed is not everything, but I watched reviews in the new Hoyts today...they are faster than that bow.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

They also tested the new Hoyt’s at 30 inch draw and another longer draw than what I did I seen tests with this it hit 344 at IBO tests (30 inch 350 grain) I don’t care about speed either but I’m loving this bow!

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Also rewatched Podium archery tests the new hoyt isn’t faster than this bow when tested at his draw length & same weight I watched both to be sure Of course it’d be fast at my draw length of 27 when those tests were at 30 inch 🤣🤣

[@randallflores-qr8cs]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSADid you watch them all the way through? He also shot them at 28"

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

@randallflores-qr8cs he actually doesn’t shoot the faster one at 28 inch draw, the screw wouldn’t come out of the module

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Here ya go here’s both to make it easy on ya 2025 hoyt kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6Stq3-Qg8uFipIsi=cM_J7FIQPxzoIF7Z 2024 mamba pro kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJmrZqCsqqqdqdksi=WGLCdBV2bgSbontp

[@philliplee1193]

I bought a really cheap 80# compound from China. It’s dual limbs are .330 thick, .660 wide, 12” long and leave the riser at about 45 degrees. It’s a bear to pull ! Yet I’m wondering since to me your arrow speeds are disappointing when their weights go up, if it isn’t a side effect of a lack of mass in the limbs, backing up the resistance from the arrow weights, that leaves these modern designs with their IBO speed ratings somewhat dusted when it comes to hunting weight shafts

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

These speeds aren’t disappointing at all at any arrow weight… it’s 27 inch draw it’s going to be slower This bow is 10fps slower Than my 84 lb draw bow at 544 grains how is that disappointing? That’s awesome

[@jfphotography69]

Nice bow, don't worry about a few fps difference, this bow like all the rest of todays bows will kill anything in North America, especially a whitetail deer, it's all about placement of the shot. I am looking at the black mamba 33, which should be a bit more forgiving with the longer brace height and longer axle. I am not a big guy, and a bit older than you, I weigh 155 #, 5' 7" with a 28" draw length, shoot an older Hoyt cam and a half at 60 # and I get 240 fps with 465 grain arrows, sometimes crank it up to 65#, but mostly keep it at 60-62 #'s.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I’m not worried about the speed, I am very impressed with the speeds this bow creates especially with how smooth the draw is I’m a big fan of it so far! Got so much testing with it to come!

[@johnnewcomb5162]

The best way to test for speed is 1 to 2 ft away like they test at the factory. I'm sure you are losing some speed with it that far away from you, but that's fast for a 27 inch draw and heavy arrows. Most bows lose speed going heavy.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Exactly thank you for finally being a guy that looks at the speeds without a bias ! These speeds are very impressive for that draw length , especially the heavier the arrows got which means this bow is VERY EFFICIENT which most here can’t seem to understand

[@longdrawarcher4857]

that hat is freaking hilarious, where can i buy one at man? also that rust color looks way better in the sunlight.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I was waiting on someone to notice the hat 🤣🤣 And yes it does! Just looks natural!

[@kip.k]

I laugh every time I see the hat! 😂

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I like to throw subtle humor into it 🤫😉🤣

[@TRC1989]

I dig the three pin but I like my digital one pin. That bow is killer!

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Yessir indeed! If I didn’t self film I’d stick with a single pin, just to much going on filming / ranging openings etc to roll with the 1 pin But we shall see this is just the first sight I’m testing have plans for 2 others as well currently

[@TRC1989]

@@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I run a tetra ryz on the axxis35 and the trophy ridge digital on the ss34. There’s always chaos when hunting just the way it goes

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Yes there is then add self filming to that chaos and you have insanity 🤣🤣

[@markkobuck693]

After the season..... Drop your Matthews to 75# then do a video comparing the speeds etc....

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I can just compare with the halon set to 73 , that triax stays at 83.5 My plan going forward is to leave the triax setup how is hunt it and the other bows I can test & compare so I don’t have to tinker with my hunting setup

[@DonaldDonohoo]

Just asking why do you shoot heavy shafts? I pull 27 on a 50lb draw weight. I shot an Obsession Fixation 7 bow 400 arrows 100grain head.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

It’s not weight I focus on, it’s FOC I like the perfect blend of 16.5%+ FOC with perfect arrow flight the weight is just what it ends up

[@Gibsonlife573]

I understand it's plenty fast for you but it's also principal that they put 360

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

This test never tested IBO IBO is full draw of the bow with 350 grain arrow The tests I’ve seen they are 16fps off as it was 344fps

[@adamstutzman5838]

@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA You should try the king cobra dg. I have one set at 82 lb and 28" draw. With a 500 grain arrow i was getting 290 fps at my local proshop and they said their chrono actually reads 6 or 7 fps slower than most other chronos.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

That’s what I’ll get from them next or what they drop in 2025 It was between the king cobra and this , but I knew I was gonna test both

[@gageb03]

is your draw length always 27"? or does APA run a little short

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

My draw length is 27 inch A bow doesn’t change a persons draw length

[@terrycalvert7812]

Plenty fast enough to kill anything you want to shoot with it!! To many guys get way to wrapped up in speed arrow weight and spine and would do a lot better if they would just get a bow and shoot it and practice with one setup instead of always changing their setup!! I get a new bow every year but iv used the same landslide hamskea and rip TKOs for like 5 years!! 75 lb lift 29 inch draw 442 grain arrows at 288fps and it’s a deer killer!! I just don’t like to change things up all time!! I hunt with one guy he builds 5 or 6 different dozen arrows every year all different weights plays with them then hunts with one and does it all again the next year!! Dude prob has 200 dozen arrows that’s been barely used!!

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

That’s how I am ahahah I don’t care about speed but I do enjoy testing it I want that happy balance of perfect flight with decent FOC & speed I think one should focus on arrow flight the most out of the 3 though This bow did very good , only being 10 fps slower with my current hunting arrow than my triax with 9LBS less draw weight that’s impressive Also I guess I should have had the garmin closer as well not at 15 yards All the other guys shoot right over it 🤣🤣

[@Gibsonlife573]

But also on my arrow my Broadhead kind of comes back and says over the Shelf

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

That’s a good single bevel!

[@joshuaeck2712]

Not to bad

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

That’s pretty damn good for my draw length it’s right there with my triax 9 lbs less draw that’s impressive Wish I could get 80 lb limbs on this bow though

[@joshuaeck2712]

@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I saw on their website they have a different bow up to a hundred pound draw weight

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

@joshuaeck2712 they do indeed

[@Indians3420]

I'm real curious, I've been thinking about selling my v3 27

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Well it drops shortly!

[@Indians3420]

The king cobra DG has 80lb limbs

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Yessir and 90 & 100 ahahah The king cobra will be in my future for sure it was between this and the king cobra DG at 80 lb draw

[@Indians3420]

I shoot sirius archery arrows, they have a speed calculator.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

@Indians3420 I’ll just stick with what I get with the garmin I am curious how close they are on their calculator

[@tommytommyp7860]

You can get that bow in 90# limbs

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

@tommytommyp7860 king cobra DG is all the way to 100 lbs

[@marvinmcafee4275]

Cant belithe hate by people if a man buys a bow an enjoys it thats what matters an as far as speed every bow manufacturer has been lying about speed for ever an they need to rember ibo is 5 grains per pound 30 inch draw an nothing on string which increases actual speed an difference chronos read different watch average jack archery he does multiple chronos same bow an arrow set up with big variations in speed ....enjoy your bow

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Ooo I’m gonna enjoy this one! The speeds I got on all these arrows I’m completely happy with as well!

[@zzz7zzz9]

All the people who whine, also likely whine that Milo has the #1 buck.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

🤣🤣🤣

[@hunterbragg2566]

They make the apa in 100lbs

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

That’s the king cobra DG that’s the bow I want next just not at 100 lbs

[@hunterbragg2566]

@ I have a Hoyt alpha x 30 at 82lbs and I want something else and thinking about getting a apa king cobra dg at 90 or either 100 just to mess around with

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

@hunterbragg2566 I’m tempted to get the DG at 80 just for how fast it is, it would be fun to get the 100lb bow for on the channel but it wouldn’t relate to anyone 🤣🤣

[@hunterbragg2566]

@ well I can only imagine how fast it is lol. My 82lb Hoyt shoots a 442grain arrow at 328 and it literally punch’s through anything. I love lighter arrows cause of pin gap and speed. My 70lb bows shoot a 346 grain at 340+. Now the down side is the bows are louder yes but I do a lot of target shoots and I’m not changing for hunting and so far everyone that’s went to a rip xv 350 or 300 spine has had full pass through. My dad’s 340 grains rip xv out of a 70 Mathew’s lift has killed 3 deer with the same rip xv arrow shooting 342fps. We shoot faster but I don’t hate on no one for a heavy arrow like most cause shoot what gives u confidence. We are all hunters we should support each other is the way I see it. But great videos man keep up the good work.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

@hunterbragg2566 agreed! But people suck I don’t waste my time on those kind of people ahahah

[@Thedudeabides803]

Gotta say I was nervous with that 350 arrow. I saw a video of a poor bastard who bought cheap Amazon arrows and it broke and sent the broken shaft though his forearm and tore out the hand. Messed him all up. I wish I never watched it. Like watching The Unlucky Russian. Glad you did it though. She’s fast.

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Yes that’s why I only shot once, did not have much confidence in it 🤣🤣

[@JeremyGibson-ni5uu]

I had faster stuff than tht 20 years ago!

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

I bet you didn’t considering this bow was one of the fastest if not the fastest bow podium archer tested last year IBO wise , and still haven’t seen a 2025 bow that is faster on his tests yet 🤣 My draw length kills speed it is what it is

[@JeremyGibson-ni5uu]

@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA I had a Jennings speed master with 29 inch draw ,yes it's 2 inch longer draw . My was 5 pounds light draw weight it consistently shot 317 fps. At 70 pounds 355 grain arrow. It was not forgiving and very hard to shot. I'm sure the apa is much better

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

@JeremyGibson-ni5uu 2 inches in draw is a big deal with fps especially on bows nowadays that’s often 10-14 fps change at identical weight Do you still have this if so I wanna see it legit never heard of them Also lastly that bow still isn’t faster than this bow like I said it hit 344 IBO speed testing on reviews I watched of it which is essentially 70 lb draw 350 grain arrow at 30 inch draw So take away 10-14 fps for the draw difference to that bow this is still faster With that said that’s insane speed for that old of a bow

[@joshfeister6566]

What a piece of crap 💩 it’s so slow compared to Ibo and it’s loud makes a weird noise lol better get your mathews back lol 😂

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

It’s dead quiet , the mic is right next to it as to why you think it’s loud I didn’t test IBO but the IBO test I seen it was 344 which is fast The speeds I got here with my draw length is extremely impressive , 27 inch draw kills speeds especially with most bows being 10-16 fps per inch of draw some faster This bow is a smooth shooter with speed Also I’m shooting over the chrono 15 yards down range which changes speeds as well when most shoot right over it/through it