Is the ATP Tour Becoming BORING?

[@joannemoore3976]

I don't get the Sinner is boring thing at all. I respect anyone's right to think it, we are all different, but just because he is focused on court doesn't equate to no personality. Watch him behind the scenes sometimes- he is warm and humorous. And no one deals with what he has dealt with this year and achieves what he has achieved without a great deal of character. In terms with the rivalry with Alcaraz that offers a really nice contrast in personality and play styles.

[@sawyer7191]

People making statements of tennis being boring tells me people want consense to blame someone for them being bored, rather than just saying they prefer to watch their favorites. It’s quite disrespectful to say the efforts a tennis player puts in is only worth watching if you approve discredits their work and disrespects how hard tennis is to even get to where these players are!

[@blackkitty9054]

​@sawyer7191 people are entitled tp their own opinions.

[@anotherfakepresident8432]

Sinner is a wonderful human. I always knew he would get where he is. But there isn't much variety to get excited about. He's just too good most of the time, doing the same thing, point after point.

[@abc...123-m1g]

@@anotherfakepresident8432they say or said the same thing about Swiatek

[@ivvywatts]

Couldn't agree more! thank you for saying this

[@becausemiro]

It was always said about dominant players. When Djokovic emerged and started to win everything people were saying that it’s boring to watch because you know he’s gonna win. When Steffi Graf was dominating WTA was same complain like “what’s the point watching the game cause you know she’s gonna win”. It happened before and history repeats itself. I personally enjoy Sinner’s cold blooded game. What makes his game so interesting and productive is that he plays his own tennis. He doesn’t adjust his game to his rivals. He forces them to play his game and they can’t catch up with him.

[@yiftachcohen470]

Except when Sinner plays Alcaraz

[@becausemiro]

@ 100% agree! And that why their rivalry so fun to watch

[@sleepem9562]

Agree 100%. I find it boring when 1 player is completely dominant. Of course the dominant player has nothing to apologize for, it's up to the others to step up. It's going to balance out, maybe even next year. I hope so 😊

[@karlpopper3246]

People who lose say it

[@Acer.21]

people must be misunderstading that athletes are there to play which entertains viewers, not entertainers first...you're not gonna find nick kyrgios drama and antics with the top players because they're on the court to play

[@sportslover2356]

There should be two tours. One which is for people who love to enjoy their sport, get excited and care about real humans. One for people who like robots and statistics without having to get involved in storylines and human angles.

[@mt817]

Jannik has skyrocketed to success like a bullet train over the past year. His humility drives his belief in continuous improvement, and that mindset remains strong. With each tournament, we witness noticeable advancements in his game-fewer rallies, a sharper service game, and a strategic approach that adapts to his opponents. He is truly a genius on the court.

[@ivanhall6482]

I'm really shocked people don't like him more as to me he feels Federer esq with the gentlemanly quality.

[@Acer.21]

@ivanhall6482 right? one of the things I like about sinner is that his mannerimsn on and off the court is very simillar to roger

[@xElNinoo]

Federer's tennis is 100x more skilled and entertaining, Sinner is robotic. There's the difference

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

​@@xElNinooyou would be surprised that even Federer was found "Boring" when he was dominating the tour on His prime

[@gabrielesantucci6189]

You probably think current tennis is boring because actually, except when Jannik plays against Alcaraz, there is pratically no match against other players...but it's not Sinner's fault!

[@vitorsherman]

There’s absolutely nothing boring about Jannik’s game. Anyone who has watched his matches against Alcaraz - and even Alcaraz himself - can attest that the quality of their shots and the intensity of their rallies rival the best of the Big Three era. If there’s anything “boring” about this era, it’s the lack of rivals - apart from Carlos, of course - who can consistently challenge Jannik. It seems to take extraordinary circumstances, like a panic attack or a virus, to even dent his dominance. As for those craving some “strong personality” drama (a.k.a. grown men behaving like spoiled brats), they can always follow Moutet or wait for the comeback of a certain misogynistic bogan.

[@seafruit-x6m]

Quando la volpe non arriva all'uva dice che è acerba. When the fox does not get to the grapes he says that they are unripe.

[@art3mide644]

Those who say that Sinner has no personality make me laugh... He has a great personality, just look at how he is managing at 23 years old and playing despite the situation he finds himself in and through no fault of his own. You're confusing having personality with being a clown on the court. Having said that, you may or may not like his style of play (de gustibus non disputandum est), I personally like it, but the problem is that apart from Alcarz, there is now no one who can stay at his level.

[@justicetiwol1147]

Guys are you kidding me? Next year the tour is gonna super interesting. There's Ben Shelton coming up, Draper looking impressive and that kid Fonseca, also Fils and Perricard, don't get me started with Musetti. The problem is that the young guns just didn't play in the ATP finals.

[@MarvinFord]

As a major fan of Nole, I like Sinner. It’s Sinner’s time. He comes across boring because he plays within himself. It might not seem exciting, but he works hard. I remember when Nole was constantly beating him and he went back to the drawing board and got better. Next season, the French players will take their place as dominant players.

[@al1976-v7m]

Sinner is truly Novak 2.0 and if you think about their skiing background it comes as no surprise they are similar players with similar strengths.

[@sawyer7191]

Yeah, Sinner’s inspiring. Watching his rise and the intimidation people are starting to have, while he is just humble and head down focused is really nice to see. No chaos or drama or tap dancing for the crowd. Honestly, the world like chaos these days and I just want less drama somewhere in life

[@ladystarlightnyc]

I could not agree more with your comment. I remember reading that Sinner specifically changed parts of his game to beat Medvedev.

[@MarvinFord]

@@sawyer7191Absolutely, the world loves chaos. People love unnecessary drama.

[@francescozappi8747]

French players? I believe Arthur Fils can grow, so GMP, but they need more to become dominant the way you mean it.

[@henning439]

Jannik Sinner and Alcaraz are outstanding players. I am an Alcaraz fan but I would rather bet on Jannik because of his consistency. He is rightfully number 1. I read somewhere that Sinner is very selective regarding engagements and this could be the reason why he is so effective. It looks like Alcaraz is everywhere and doing too much. Even Zverev is more consistent than him.

[@piapenny]

Yes. My Dad and I are big tennis watchers and we both said we were very bored with ATP Finals. We barely watched but the WTA finals we were locked in.

[@sawyer7191]

Hmmm, I barely watched WTA. It’s not that excited except for one or two players for me. I like the athletic appeal and the growth in some players on the men’s side. I mean, Alcaraz is very inconsistent so maybe that’s why people could think they aren’t interested because their player keeps losing to random players and he has many off days

[@xElNinoo]

WTA is more entertaining now, Paolini-Swiatek the other night was a fantastic match, good rallies. ATP at top end is just servebot and baseline unless Alcaraz plays

[@rabisml1234]

​​@@xElNinoothey need to make even hard courts as slow as clay so that akcaraz can do better and big servers will lose their advantage....but this will favor baseliners and serve and volley play will die.....

[@xElNinoo]

@@rabisml1234 we need both. Most hard courts are medium-fast and have particularly high bounce. There's barely any hard courts with a low bounce like in the 2000s. Mix it up, some fast, some slow.

[@maryteammate5753]

NOT boring at all ! Just joy & success !!! Do'nt spoil our pleasure.

[@JokerCat9]

Sinner and Alcaraz aren't boring. Their opposition are.

[@victormendez8811]

That's a good point! Sinner and Carlitos are at a much higher level. The rest are just followers! I would say that Zverev is looking stronger!!!

[@Bojanthekid]

Playing Fritz in the Final its like Playing Cilic in a Roland Garros final easy

[@ObservingtheMatrix]

This tournament was all about superior movement and balance from Sinner. When you watch his serve and even forehand the balance allows him to calibrate the shot lot a gun lol. It’s like when Fed would play people at a certain foot speed for 3 games - which is what Sinner did & then just ups his footwork and ball striking by 10-15 mph and then the opponent is playing a totally different match and scrambling just to catch their bearings. Alcatraz is the most elite at doing this. He does it in points and not just in game strategy BUT this requires elite footwork and balance that I feel like Carlos has lost a little edge on right now. When Alcaraz turns it up he’s the best and just making the pace and footwork so fast the opponent can’t keep up, but Sinner now has that level as his base. If you wanna startle him, you have to do it in the first 3 games of the set on his serve.

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

One thing i think Alcaraz has a a weakeness on hard courts, it's that his variety doesn't pay off that well like grass or Clay, when different effects, directions and height of the ball can make big damage, on hardcourts it's More about precisión and consistency, that's why His serve it's More exposed on those courts a d he cant apply His variety that easily cause he has less Time to think and react

[@Altanmarko1]

Do people want Sinner to play less good? Like hit the ball softer or not move that well..? Make wrong decisions..? :))

[@Aliceteacup]

Here’s your answer: “In 2024, Grand Slam tennis viewership reached a record high of nearly 2 billion people in more than 200 countries. On-site attendance also increased by 10% to over 3.36 million fans.”

[@JoaoSilva-rb3xk]

Sinner always stood out to me since he burst onto the scene after winning the Next Gen Finals in 2019 and I'm glad that after a bit of a "flop" in 2022 and first half of 2023, he has confirmed all his potential to become the player he is today. I am a big Rafa fan and Sinner was always the player I would support next. I think Sinner and Alcaraz are clearly above the rest of the field and showed they can dominate the Tour like the Big 3 did. Holger Rune is obviously the one who can join them (the level he showed in Paris Bercy 2022 was unbelievable and I hope he can get back to that level). Regarding the rest of the top10 (excluding Nole obviously), they are the so called Weak Era (basically the 96-99 born gen), Fritz is a very basic player who has fulfilled all his potential and managed to reach a slam and YEC final and finish top4, that would be impossible in previous eras in my opinion... Zverev is probably the only one at the moment who can compete with Sinner and Alcaraz (Medvedev also could but he is declining dramatically unfortunately). So, we have to wait for the new players to keep climbing the rankings and reaching the final stages of big tournaments like Fils, Draper, Mensik, Fonseca, Musetti, Shelton, etc

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

Agree to disagree with fritz, it's true that he's a "limited player" compared to other too players...but not every top 10 or top 5 it's a multitalented player with full variety, for example David Ferrer was arround the same ranking In the big 3 era at their prime at Some point...being a wayy More limited player than others...but he like fritz what they do they do better than 98% of the tour and their consistency In high competitive matches provided them being with the beat players sharing rankings...

[@JoaoSilva-rb3xk]

I understand your point but Ferrer was miles ahead of what Fritz is, he is the type of player who is in the talks of best player to never win a slam and managed to beat Nadal and Djokovic multiple times and always being really competitive. Fritz is 0-10 against Djokovic (barely won sets) and loses easily against Sinner and Alcaraz. It's just my opinion and there's no possible comparison between them.

[@justicetiwol1147]

Man i stopped watching wta since Serena and Naomi left. But oh my, Saba, Coco n Swiatek next year it's gonna real interesting and Zheng not to forget n Osaka showing some comeback moves.❤❤Go 2025

[@scarymonkey581]

A lot of people here would likely pay a million dollars for a basic ticket to watch Bublik and Kyrgios clown around for 2 hours instead for watching actual tennis. Dominance is boring. It always has been. If it isn’t now, it will be someday in a star athlete’s career. No one other than your fans will celebrate the most, and neutrals or haters will grow tired of your dominance.

[@sportslover2356]

It's pathetic the way people keep saying Bublik and Kyrgios clown around. They play superb, incredibly brilliant tennis. They have proved themselves against the finest players on tour, over and over. Who do you think you are - God?

[@scarymonkey581]

@@sportslover2356 I get what you mean, I was just using them as an example. They come to everyone's mind when you think of tennis played for entertainment instead of giving your opponent no quarter. No disrespect to either player, they're great.

[@sportslover2356]

@@scarymonkey581 Tennis played for entertainment AS WELL AS giving your opponent no quarter. I've watched many of Kyrgios's matches at the AO and Brisbane and the entertainment value was off the scale while the no quarter value was ditto, win or lose. Best was AO 20 vs Nadal. He lost but...electric.

[@theramden6025]

Coco really made that WTA Finals Tournament worth watching. The final match had my hear beating so fast. They both played and exciting match. T2 had the replay on last night and I watch the entire match again. Loosen up Queen.

[@DarrenLucas-up6ki]

It was still boring

[@sawyer7191]

Coco is my favorite to watch. Her effort is soooo much fun!!!

[@sawyer7191]

@@DarrenLucas-up6kiI think you just want something new too fast. I mean, you want a new line up of tennis players so you can watch the sport. I’m not sure what specifically people are looking for other than just agreeing to be dissatisfied because someone says it.

[@DarrenLucas-up6ki]

@@sawyer7191 cause women’s tennis is worse. Even with the men’s issues still better than female tennis. Females tennis, is like boring rally’s and they have no trick shots.

[@mausaedof8398]

I don't get it, Djokovic played same exact player last few years, and now when he's not winning it suddenly becomes boring. Make sense

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

I Guess you forgot that people said the same about Djokovic when he was dominating the tour with Nadal and Federer ibckuded...Lot of people saying it was weai era or "Boring" for your information, they said the same about Federer arround 2005 when he was winning "too Easy" against the whole tour...people it's contradictory, they want bug champions and dominant players, they they get them, they say they're Boring cause tveyr dominating "too much" then look what happens when there's a couple of "upsets" or unexpected winners in big tournaments, they said it's weak cause "anyone" can win...

[@LUCA-vr9es]

I think it's just the trasformation we are seeing in other sports. Tennis is becoming more and more physical, and sinner is the best athlete who remains strong and consistent at the distance, playing at high level no matter what. He trains reallt hard and he is helped by genetics.

[@ladystarlightnyc]

This is an excellent point. Figure Skating went through a very similar transformation. It's completely focused on the technical aspects rather than artistry and not nearly as entertaining to watch.

[@Florence-kn3dq]

I love excellence, so very exciting to have Sinner.👏🔥💪

[@StewNWT]

That's a bit of an odd take. We had 3 legit title contenders - Zverev, Sinner and Alcaraz. And then Fritz upset Zverev in an incredible match. I'd hardly call it boring. Rublev, Ruud, De Minaur and Medvedev were def a bit below par. I would cede that the amount of contrast in styles was a bit lacking. But there have been plenty less competitive YECs with the Big 4 involved too.

[@Acer.21]

I agree, people in my tennis club says they're more interested in watching tennis now because it's not as dominated by the same people (big 3)

[@blackkitty9054]

​@Ace-ig3mj are these people blind? At least during the big 3 era, there were 3 people outdoing each other. Now it's only Sinner, and the rest are just fillers.

[@juismac]

@@blackkitty9054 I wouldn’t call Alcaraz a filler when he beat Sinner in the Beijing Final recently and has a better head to head record. Alcaraz also won two Majors this year, just like Sinner. Alcaraz is definitely the more exciting player but he’s not as consistent and seems to get upset a little more in some tournaments. I’d say they are the current Big 2 but will like to see a young player like Fils, Rune, Shelton or Pericard challenge them to form a Big 3. ( cos we know Zverev, Fritz, Ruud, Rublev or Minaur ain’t goin to do it).

[@saberdiamond3425]

8:01 Not a Novak fan, but Sinner is the biggest threat to Djokovic by far. He is the only player with a non negative h2h, and has actually harmed Novak more than he has harmed Sinner (devastating losses to Sinner at the Davis Cup, Shanghai and especially AO)

[@chiefnama790]

Alcaraz too.

[@Britney_2007]

I once said and will say it again...the WTA is more interesting than the ATP in this current day and time!

[@Mmaabone1]

Hi Christian YOU ARE OUR 🌟 IN YOUR OWN STANDING. STAY BLESSED & 😊

[@jackorange1882]

Don't sleep on the teenage young guns Jakub Mensik, Joao Fonseca, Alexander Blockx, Learner Tien, Nishesh Basavareddy.. maybe Juncheng Shang if he could build some strength and his body up.

[@ChristiansCourt]

definitely going to mention them in my rising atp players to watch for 2025 video!

[@jackorange1882]

@@ChristiansCourt Awesome, looking forward to that video

[@StewNWT]

@@ChristiansCourt Joao Fonseca is going to be competing for slams with SInner and Alcaraz 100%

[@godz4ever404]

They gotta break through first like a GMP, win a 250/500 and then we will see! Put Lehecka in there too and Michelsen and Diallo! 😉🤗👌

[@godz4ever404]

​@@StewNWTI like him too; still need some refining but I like what I see! 👁️😁👍

[@tammiecurrie930]

I don't dislike Sinner, but I do think the whole doping debacle has made ppl give him the side eye, oh and I'm a Nole fan

[@henning439]

But considering his dominance, it is obvious that he does not need to dope. And it was found out that the amount in his system was insignificant and therefore could not have given him any advantage.

[@Comma_jamaal]

Snooze fest on the ATP. I’m 33, and my fav player has always been Federer. My players worth watching are now: - alcaraz - Novak - Shelton - big foe (I’m representing the DMV) - Rune - Mpetshi Perricard

[@Listenthenspk]

This WHOLE COMMENT

[@monicabolognini7962]

Tennis Is Never Been so fast , Powerful , atlethic like now. They are almost Unreal. Compare videos of the past to now ...the old ones Will looks like in slow motion! Sinner Is a Huge Champion that makes look Easy what Is extremely difficoult , same Alcaraz and others. Who Say that s boring Is because knows nothing about tennis and how Amazing those shots are. Tennis Is Never Been Better then with this new generation . Sinner , It keeps improving ,gonna be the Best of all time.

[@joannemoore3976]

Yes as a Sinner fan I am really happy, but was it the most exciting ATP finals? No. But this doesn't mean the men's tour is generally boring. We have 2 (maybe 3 with Zverev at the moment) who are dominating but that's nothing new. I think it's an exciting time , Djokovic still around and lots of new players coming up. It certainly isn't a weak era, that is usually applied to when there are no clear players dominating or when 1 player is too far ahead of the others. Anyway the tour goes through ups and downs - there will always been new story lines.

[@blackkitty9054]

Only Sinner is dominating, and next year he will be even more imposing, may win the calendar GS. Tennis is getting very boring indeed. I don't blame Jannik, it's not his fault that the rest are so inferior.

[@joannemoore3976]

@blackkitty9054 well Alcaraz did win back to back slams tbh. As Jannik says, let's see what's coming 😅

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

​@@blackkitty9054i dont see Sinner dominating a while year...he's the hoy shot currently for sure...abd the most difficulty it's to repeat or improve ab already great year...even the big 3 suffered from Some slumps after great seasons...bot expect everything being so Easy to jannik next year...you could be surprised

[@blackkitty9054]

​@diegosotomiranda4107 the big 3 had a lot of competition among themselves and other high quality players. Jannik reigns supreme in this era, the few losses he had this year coincide with physical issues he suffered during these matches. As of today, nobody can challenge him, and it doest look like this will change for a while. Perhaps he will dominate for years like Federer did, before worthy rivals appeared.

[@IvanSpazia]

I'm raised up with Seppi, Camporese and Fognini, when those have just played like wild cards into big stages like Wimbledon I was already happy. I could not even image all those guys today , Berrettini in the final of Wimbledon in 2021, Musetti already close to be a top 10, Arnaldi a good spot, like a decent Sonego, Darderi, Cobolli, Nardi and To doubles there's the duo top 3 Vavassori Bonelli, and in females sides good youngers like Cocciaretto and Bronzetti, Errani on net is still like old wine and with the gold medal in Paris with.. Offcourse the new top 5 Paolini, what a season for she, that only a year ago was only a top 30. Offcourse Sinner that have won more tournaments than games, 75 to 6 xd. One of the great season ever, surely the better of our history and citizens here at start from nowhere to watch tennis, togheter with soccer, it have becomed very popular. So I think not, it's not the wrongest here, but it's our era after centuries of something closed to nothing.. It's just Italians does it better 😅 and I'm sorry for others,that could only rosicate and do futile excuses , but we are, what we're, more than proud for our tennis on this Era. Bye bye World from 🎾👋👌🇮🇹

[@leominerva3494]

Come hai tradotto " rosicare"?😂

[@IvanSpazia]

@leominerva3494 I'm sorry for the others, but Italians do it better xd Un po' pulp fiction, un poco alla Celentanese xd 😅 To nibble or gnaw a bow like a dog non rende l'idea, è così bello quel Rosicate. Intanto pure la Billie Jean Cup, la coppa di thriller e della buon'anima di Quincy Jones è delle ragazze nostrane 🇮🇹. Se nella Davis usciamo vincitori contro i favoriti USA, il loro rosicate si ampliera' su livelli Cosmogonici. Ma scherzi a parte, questi si pongono delle domande sul sminuire i successi altrui, poiché troppo ben abituati precedentemente, seppur i tempi di Andy sono lontani.

[@brendajohnson5525]

I love Carlos' game, who he is as a person and his charisma. I'm not a fan of Sinner at all for multiple reasons but I'm so glad we have choices. Other players need to be able to challenge Sinner besides Carlos. That will make things interesting.

[@ladystarlightnyc]

It is the ATP's fault that professional men's tennis is not very exciting at the moment. Why don't we listen to the players? The schedule is too packed, the courts are too fast and the balls are poor quality. So I don't find it surprising that only one or two players can succeed in this environment. If they make the changes the player are asking for, I think we will see more individuals able to play their best tennis. Which ultimately will lead to a more exciting sport.

[@ankevanzyl2629]

Thank you for your channel!! Love your content!!

[@francescozappi8747]

I don't respectfully agree the whole "Sinner is Boring" idea. Aside from the fact that I am Italian and therefore there is a conflict of interest on my side, I believe it's game is peak if you enjoy heavy strikers with some touch. I think the "boring" part is the same to all the dominant players: Djokovic was boring, Steffi Graff was boring, hell, I even read that Rafa was boring to watch, but it all leads down to the fact that you kinda know they are going to win, no matter what, so it kinda takes off the excitement of the game.

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

Even Roger was considered Boring when only young Nadal on clay or a really ocational upset he suffered we're the few looses of His season as n1, arround 2005 commentarors we're Starting to ask for More "Challenge"

[@Grinnyt5]

I think the inequality in terms of pay and opportunity is becoming a huge issue in tennis. I understand the best deserve the most prize money, but Sinner earned €20,000,000 from prize money this year. Compared to the €2,500,000 for the 17th ranked Tiafoe that’s ridiculous

[@mattfoley4128]

Huh?😂😂😂

[@martyna2371]

There will be new faces, Arthur Fils, Jack Draper. If Djokovic is still there (and he said he has a few more Slams in him! let's listen to him), then with Sinner and Alcaraz, it makes a great storyline! I don't mind Sinner's dominance so much because for me he moves so beautifully on the court, he slides as if he were skiing. I sometimes watch matches looking only at him. His movement is absolutely amazing.

[@nelsondesousa9304]

Jannick is almost too business like and his personality comes across as quite robotic in complete contrast to Alcaraz. Also, I feel like we’re not getting the complete picture regarding the Clostebol situation. As for Zverev his narcissistic attitude gets in the way and the results reflect this.

[@StewNWT]

there isn't anything else to know regarding the Clostebol

[@nelsondesousa9304]

@ look I hope so. I don’t want to be believe he’s a cheat like most tennis fans. However, there’s a grey area here that we’re not privy too. Doping is indeed complex but there’s just something missing in the facts here.

[@StewNWT]

@@nelsondesousa9304 but what are you really basing that on? I appreciate your thoughtful take on it but he disclosed everything. Remember steroids are quite long acting in the body. It makes sense that the minute amount tested positive for twice over the course of I think it was less than a week showed up on two tests. I’m a doctor undergoes regular testing. I have in the past for collegiate sports and I do at present because in the past I’ve had a substance abuse issue. During my athletic career, I tested positive for pseudoephedrine because my boyfriend at the time had a cold and had taken some. More recently, I was intimate with a guy who was a single leg amputee from a car accident, and he was taking high doses of gabapentin. I ended up testing positive for gabapentin, even though I never taken any myself. so the story about his trainer using the formulation which is apparently a very common over-the-counter topical preparation in Italy, checks out. There is literally nothing else to know about this story from a fact perspective. Other than, and I think this is where you might have a legitimate point, why the ATP didn’t announce it publicly at the time and why it didn’t become public until just before the USO. And there is a very legitimate question of why by contrast Simona Halep’s case took bloody forever. I think we can all agree that sinner’s case was handled properly. Whereas Simona got screwed and her hearing should NEVER have taken as long as it did. Yes the sinner team had a more immediate answer for what the source of contamination was than Halep did but there was no excuse for why Halep has to wait so long to be cleared. But I don’t think it is fair or accurate to simply sit there and say something seems off when you don’t really have any basis for that other than general suspicion. You seem like a very smart poster so that’s why I am wondering why you feel that way.

[@godz4ever404]

​@@StewNWTBecause the end result is that he failed a drug test and apparently there is supposed to be a suspension for that. Irrespective of how we feel about Jannik (he's my 2nd favorite player btw) the rules have to be enforced IF the rules state this is the penalty/result for failing a drug test. The "alphabet" organizations (ATP; WTA; ITIA, CAS, WADA) have to be on the same page regarding this issue but evidently they are not.

[@StewNWT]

@ he did have a suspension - a small one, and lost his Indian wells prize money

[@xElNinoo]

In response to your question about why Novak fans dislike Sinner: I personally find him characterless an dull. And I didn't like how he was able to frame his coach for the two failed tests, that's not a good reflection of his character. Oh yeah, and he's basically Berdych that moves much better. Boring.

[@sleong]

It's been boring since Djokovic took over in 2021. So for the past 3 years. Yes this is an incredibly weak era.

[@Lederius18]

It’s interesting because I’ve seen many tennis fans comment on the quality of the WTA saying that’s it’s low but I feel it’s the opposite. In my opinion, the ATP have a huge gap between the top 10 vs everyone else. I would really like to see players like Fils, Shelton, Paul, FAA make a big dent in the top 10. Fils has the all court game I think he will go far. As it relates to sinner, he’s just boring. No personality but an incredible player. Reminds me of Ig… nvm 😂 hopefully all the players heal over the next few months and hit 2025 running making it an exciting season.

[@Onyxraye]

Who does Sinner remind you of? Speak your mind friend 😂

[@godz4ever404]

HI.LA.RI.OUS!!! We all know you're talking about Iga. But her personality is fine as is Jannik's. Remember they (the press) use to say the same thing about Venus at her pressers! Some reporters would say, "When is Serena getting here?" Peeps personalities are different, there's room for us all. 💞🤗😉

[@Listenthenspk]

Alcaraz is just more exciting to watch...its pretty simple. Nothing against Jannick it's just not that compelling like Rybakina she's cool just not that exciting

[@colinrichards1316]

The ATP finals might have been a little lack luster BUT the men's tour is much more exciting than the women's tour, the young French & Italian men makes the game exciting again!

[@KalaVeritates]

Thank you Christian. I think you gave a great summary of a definitely strong wave of feeling at the moment. I know it is true for me and I barely watched the finals. There has to be top level tennis as a given bot what is missing is any engaging factors. This would be true of any sport but if for instance a football match result was already known the interest in the match diminishes. And also dynamic engaging players to give an emotional excitement and connection.

[@saberdiamond3425]

People DID say the same about the Sampras era, and even Roger’s era between 2004-8. I think we should wait before we jump to conclusions! Dominance by a few players does not equal boring, as the Big 3 proved time and time again!

[@anthonymacaluso2671]

The wta finals was more interesting because there were upsets like gauff vs swiatek/sabalenka. Zheng also acts as an antagonist for the other 7 players.

[@helloeveryone0123]

great assessment. but i would say sinner adopted djokovic game style after taking on his coaches and he's improving so much faster than anyone, i think it's going to show the world peak sinner and strategy. its definitely not going to be boring.

[@felixfranco]

What about Iga beating all of her competition 6-0 6-1? There’s only a couple of girls that can actually challenge specially on clay she has no competition aside from the Osaka match she had. Every other tournament she is cruising by. The only reason why the end of the year was more exciting is because she was out and gave the other girls time to rise. I personally don’t care for her and find the WTA completely boring when she is cruising by and has no real competition except for the few upsets here and there. Same thing with ATP, Sinner is just better than the rest but doesn’t necessarily mean the rest are weak.

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

Iga never has been dominating, she always does great un a couple of tournaments then dissapear for another couples and repeat

[@xElNinoo]

Alcaraz is box office in most matches he plays. Sinner is boring in every match apart from the ones against Alcaraz. I turn the TV off when Sinner is on, guess the golden era really is over 🤷‍♂️

[@ivvywatts]

I have to say - I'm a new tennis fan just this year and Jannik basically single handedly made me one. Not only do I like him as an athlete because of his game, but I like tennis as a sport because of his game. Its been a tumultuous season to jump on the sinner train to say the least haha ;) BUT everything I've seen from him on and off court has only made me respect him more as "a player and a person" as he likes to say. So no, I do not find him boring. (although.. I think he'd agree that thank god Alcaraz is around to challenge him if for no other reason than his and our own shared amusement)

[@tobiasgoldman]

I really like your content and ive started to watch it regularly, i usually agree with you on many points but not in this video: 1, when the level is as high as it is with Alcaraz and Sinner it's impossible for me to call it a weak era or uninteresting. 2, Anything will be less compelling than the Big 3 rivalry, it doesn't mean that the current era is uninteresting. 3, Saying that the WTA is more interesting than the ATP right now is like saying that the junior circuit is more compelling than the senior one. They're two totally different levels. You can't compare them. You won't start watching junior tennis all of a sudden.

[@cybernetennis]

I feel like Jack Draper, Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard, Arthur Fils and Tomas Machac are my faves to push the big 2. If you sprinkle some deep Djokovic runs it will be super interesting; your right Ruud and Rublev probably don't have it and actually I don't like watching either one of them.

[@iceescape]

As a Sinner fan, I'm very happy that he is dominating. But I do think it's been a lackluster second half of the season with both Alcaraz and Djokovic not playing consistently. And the others like Zverev, Fritz, Medvedev and below do not feel like real contenders and are basically canon fodder. Still think the ATP is a bit more compelling than the WTA, which I haven't been excited about since Osaka and Serena were still at the top years ago. Hope someone from the younger generation of Draper, Mensic, Shang, Fils, Shelton, and Perricard can make that transition to the top next year.

[@JamminOnThe1]

I think the match between Fritz and Zverev was awesome. Sinner is surging but I think Alcaraz with surge. If you look at the last decade or so there were a lot of players who became number one, even Andy Murray became number 1 for a while.

[@TheFlowMind]

It was not boring, it’s just that Sinner’s matches were won from the start and he barely suffered. The most enjoyable was Zverev vs Fritz. While Sinner vs Fritz was surprisingly a serve match which is not that enjoyable especially in the first two games of first set.

[@beaniesatthebeach8457]

Mens tennis is suffering from a complacency issue; The players are content with what they have and where they are so they dont have incentive to push harder

[@coreyburney2331]

The wta finals was definitely better than the atp finals this year. Next year will be better for sure!

[@adrianonline69]

Think the doping issue is concerning and I think also that Carlos will rise to challenge him …

[@georgepalavi5060]

I thought it was a good final too, Fritz stayed pretty close but Sinner was able to raise his own game when he needed to. Sinner is in a class by himself and I hope others can push him. Alcaraz and Taylor maybe.

[@onlyfedrawr]

weak era, nah, maybe a transition era but not weak. people always say this when a dominant player starts to rise above everyone else - i actually prefer when there's a dominant force in a sport and everyone is gunning for that guy - not Sinners fault everyone else can't rise to his (or Alcaraz) level.

[@noahurst-c7x]

i think that once alcaraz gets out of his losing slump and back in form we can see matchups from him and sinner. but because he is losing in the early stages of tournaments we are not seeing any matchups. that could deficiently make the atp more interesting.

[@austinwilson8036]

ATP is in a transition phase and I think the fans/sport are still mourning the loss of the Federer, nadal and djokovic era. There hasn't been enough time for this generation of players to determine who will have the next great rivalry. The players and tennis media need to build some narratives. Right now the men behave like NPCs. Their socials are boring. Their interviews are calculated and sanitized. There is very little flavor aside from Alcaraz, Tiafoe and Shelton. It's a PR problem more than anything. Give us drama and mess, give us stakes, give us something to get us emotionally invested. Otherwise, the fans will tune out regardless of how skilled the players are.

[@REDDOT669]

I, as a Novak fan, don't like Jannik, but I also don't hate him, is more like.. I don't mind him. Whereas Carlos is someone I can potentially even love in the future. Here's why: - better celebrations - potential to become Wimbledon goat by Carlos (I know a lot of ppl won't agree with me on this one) - in general Carlos more likeable personality, he's smiling and joking all the time. Honestly, I don't even have a reason to like or hate Jannik bcs I have no idea for what... Only traits that comes to my mind is that he is calm and he is humble. It's good to have them but how can you build your whole character as a tennis icon on just these two things? Just as a reminder. We had Roger, the gentelmen, talented, finesse always classy, always funny but in a more mannered way. We had Rafa, the fighter, shy, handsome Spaniard, making all of these jokes sometimes unintatiinally bcs of his english. We had Novak, the goat, fighting with the opponent and everyone else in the stadium, always expressive, with huge serbian temperament, party breaker for Roger and Rafa. They all were SOMETHING And now.. compare it to Jannik.. well he's calm and he's humble... Great.

[@al1976-v7m]

Well don't forget he's a spindly Tyrolean kid at heart. Very guarded and private and probably not always that confident in other areas of his life. I'm sure he has a fun and quirky side to him as we've seen in the legendary Jim Courier interview last year in Australia. He just doesn't like to show it publicly all that much. I think his cool aura is a great contrast to some of the other players. But he will be the benchmark and probably achieve Novak-like greatness if he stays hungry and healthy. Similar to Novak, his base level is just higher than anyone else's and it will take outstanding efforts each time to beat him on the biggest stages. Carlos has proven he's capable of doing it, as for the others the jury is still out...

[@godz4ever404]

Well, dang, tell us how you REALLY feel?! 😂 But in all fairness, Jannik being calm, humble and just an introvert (to me) IS his something! He just brightens up an entire room when little children are around as I believe he's just a big kid himself. He is who he is and that's good enough. 🤗🎾👌

[@godz4ever404]

​@@al1976-v7mNow, wait a minute. That is taking it a bit too far (Novak's level of greatness)! Jannik has had ONE amazing year, he has to string along MANY to be considered up there with Novak; he and Carlos. People are just getting a bit ahead of themselves with that kind of talk and we hear it all.of.the.time!!! Lol.

[@al1976-v7m]

@@godz4ever404 he's shown potential before but probably lacked the self-belief against the best players in the world and wasn't physically quite ready. Now he is that, and he is still improving. I don't think this season will be an outlier... it will become the norm. Like Novak, he'll be beaten occasionally but will win most of the time.

[@godz4ever404]

@al1976-v7m I disagree; I don't see that type of dominance from Jannik year in and year out. The rest of the field is going to get stronger and faster and give him some "worries" but we shall see! 😉

[@lornawilliams550]

I think the ATP Finals were perceived as boring because of the predictability of the outcome. Sinner has taken tennis to a whole new level with his athleticism, clinical execution, and consistency. He makes most of the rest of the field look average and it's up to the other top players to step up. I'm glad you called out the trolls against Sinner. Unfortunately there will always be some salty, jealous tennis fans (esp. Djokovic ones) who will throw mud at Sinner, even though they know he's not a drugs cheat. Kudos to Sinner for his mental fortitude. Women's tennis is definitely more exciting right now because of how close the top players are in their abilities and performances. ATP you have work to do to match them.

[@nederlanditism1154]

who even watches them anyway? why should it have become boring recently or now when for the last 20 years three players won almost all of the big pots? with some over simplification (it's naturally much more intricate, yeah, you're telling me BS), sinner must be relieved his name is not halep.

[@yvettebrowne1377]

ATP needs a Dominic Theim.

[@HullioGQ]

"Is the ATP Tour Becoming BORING?" YES! I am spending more time watching the WTA

[@francescozappi8747]

As for the answer why Djokovic fan dislike Sinner: because he is like Djokovic 2.0, but younger and an even heavier striker. He basically substitued himself to Djokovic, and thay don't like that.

[@RemyMesi-ko3jv]

Right. The energy is not felt on court. There’s no engagement with the crowd at all. The tournament was a dud.

[@a55tech]

got boring when RF left lol Nadal was a clay specialist. Most interesting story next yr is if Djoker can get 1 more

[@flavi0r]

My man that music for this video is downright CREEPY

[@zetristan4525]

There's the best quality of all time now with Alcaraz, Sinner and Djokovic... anyone remember the Olympic final. Fils and Machac on their way🏃🏾‍♂️🏃🏾‍♂️ As for boring, just wait for Gioraffi Mpetshi Perricard and Zverev to battle out finals...Rhythm goodbye🦒🦒

[@zetristan4525]

Fonseca, Mensik...

[@justicetiwol1147]

But y'all weren't getting bored when Serena was dominating. Just say it: u just wanna see Serena destroy Sharapova 😂

[@godz4ever404]

Because she was BRILLIANT doing it as I see the same in Jannik and Carlos too! When I see some shots they hit, I'm like "What the hell!" And that's in a VERY good way! That's not boring tennis to me.

[@kasiaxx-k9x]

When Iga Swiatek was winning everything, people complained that wta is boring xD for Iga fans it wasnt boring at all!!!🤣 but of course, its much much better when there is some rivalry. We knew, that only Alcaraz has any chance with Sinner. but now women rules! Swiatek Rybakina Sabalenka Gauff Zheng… its not predictable!

[@evanfomby4459]

Actually Jim said “ eat chipotle “ and I laughed out loud 💀😭

[@jayld5396]

I wouldnt count out Frances T. He us in a dark phase right now , but he has the physical ability to win, mentally…. Might be his achilles heal

[@zetristan4525]

Are we in the midst of a weak era in the ATP? Hey, I'm Christian Basnight

[@puccilongatti6467]

Saying that JS Is boring Is like yo Say that Rafa was boring during Roland Garros go 15years! Well in my opinion Is superb fenomenale tennis!

[@DavidBucuco]

Are y'all ever happy

[@Altanmarko1]

When Nadal was playing Roland Garros was it boring..?

[@saami9606]

Its only boring cos of sinner, not cos he wins everything, but cos he as a player is BORING to watch

[@martyna2371]

@@ChristiansCourt I think you should edit to 'I disagree'

[@ChristiansCourt]

@@martyna2371 i didn’t read the comment correctly 😭

[@StewNWT]

total disagree. Sinner is amazing

[@saami9606]

@@StewNWT we can agree to disagree

[@saami9606]

@@ChristiansCourt oh lool what did you say originally 😅

[@zokkostenniszone3282]

All things are relative. Obviously, coming off the Roger, Rafa and Novak era, ANYTHING after is going to look worse which is where we are at right now. That said , I do think the overall quality is not that great. At the finals. only Sinner was in top form, the rest were not for various reasons. Also their games all seem very similar which does not make the best viewing.

[@GaryTornado-zy2mz]

No after retirements of Serena and Ash I find myself watching ATP more I find it more interesting than the WTA tour these days. Naomi Osaka is the only one I follow now lol

[@hqs9585]

Yes it is. Too many tournaments with the same cast every week and then the ladies mediocracy compared to men is just boring.

[@wheresbaby7783]

Center just has perfect neck technique on on forehand and backhand but you know what also he’s so good at the big point you know when there’s a big point he wins it and that’s the difference that’s why someone like you know Roger or Nola who could maybe out with them or Nadal? They’re gone so no one else got the you know big points better

[@valeriejohnson8771]

No, we are not in the midst of a weak era. I suspect that we are witnessing now, on both the WTA and ATP tours is the realization that they play the same boring baseline offensive game. There are hardly any change of pace, mixing up shots, as Alcaraz tended to do. When I harken back even to the Big 4, we had players at the top with variety, especially Federer, and Murray. Other ATP players like Gasquet, and now Shapovalov, and that young Italian….Musetti who possess beautiful playing styles. Today we have with the same boring baseline robotic style of play. I happen to love Sinner’s power game, and now he is mixing in changes of pace at times, and moving forward to net. I know the reason that I enjoyed the past 20-25 years of watching ATP, was mainly because there were more pleasurable viewing, because of the contrast in styles, across both tours. I can recall some tennis analysts speaking of the method in which junior players were being taught. It was, and still is, mostly baseline play. I don’t enjoy either tour as much any longer. I have some favourite players, and will watch mainly those players now.

[@MrCreative242]

Sinner ain’t boring but he does leave a sour taste in my mouth because others getting suspended and fined no matter innocent or guilty

[@apollard-wq5kf]

Stop putting Sinner down, and forget the doping non scandal. He was cleared of wrongdoing!

[@sbvish2000]

Matchup look boring so didnt watch

[@bryanwood411]

Can we stop throwing Holger Rune's name into the mix? He needs to get his game together, his attitude and has a lot of work to do to be even mentioned anymore.

[@djsleekmanali6489]

ATP is boring without Novak participating in it.... Tennis needs Novak.

[@michaeladkins6]

No, we need the next big young player. The 'big '3 took forever to go away. If Alcarez had had a strong second half of the year, there wouldnt be as much whining.

[@sawyer7191]

Yeah, Novak is great but other players are started to really physically gain on him and his tennis is more tied to fandom over excitement or escape tricky situations.

[@leominerva3494]

Novak è un ex giocatore.

[@lylethaparker9453]

Roger Federer had the same dominance until Rafa came along. If not Alcaraz, then it will be someone that will come along.😊😊

[@frankyyy9725]

Once Nick Kyros comes back It should get more interesting

[@sportslover2356]

I found the ATP finals listless and boring. One three setter. Terrible crowds. Of course Sinner is analytically brilliant - that's why the other players and most fans are so bored with the whole process. He simply doesn't play with them, doesn't lift them, has no intention of doing anything except show how brilliant he is. The finest players know how to bring out the best in each other, how to entertain and do great stuff (and often win). Very weak era. You want two tours - one for excitement and entertainment where we have people you hate - Kyrgios, Daniil, Rune, all giving the crowd a wonderful time and playing WITH each other for us. The other tour is Sinner playing with himself for his adoring fans. Sinnerfam, as with Nolefam, is why people hate Sinner and hated Nole. Kyrgios is/was wonderful. You want him got rid of. Take your pick. A great tour with excitement and us wanting to come back? A pathetic tour that you can watch on a computer if you want to.

[@anotherfakepresident8432]

Whole of next year looks like this ahead

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

A lot of peiple newd to reamize tbat tvis trabsition has been smower due to the covid fiasco and the awful decisions with the rankings and some tournaments on between 2020 and 2023, that slowed down a lot the overall competitive state of the tour