“THE NBA IS DEAD”

[@tr3ball_wavey473]

Hard to watch the NBA when ticket & arena prices are insane, streaming services are bad and ppl can’t even get access to their own team home games

[@GerryDeeSf]

bingo; you'd think nba league pass would let you watch games ; cant watch whats not accessible

[@davidcarroll3033]

Accuracy

[@landonpatton7997]

All this but more the 2nd half. You complain about ratings when fans physically can't watch the games whether they liked it or not

[@SkiLILs]

The product is awful and the general public doesn't want to support a league where players miss much of the season to rest. It's a bad look for the league

[@aklakl5854]

ADAM SILVER GOT 77 BILLION DOLLARS, THE OLD DEAL WAS 24 BILLION DOLLARS.. the mighty nfl only doubled there deal. Adam has doubled the salary cap since he took over for stern and the cap is going up 50 percent over the next 5 years.

[@Lightdragon773]

Everything a subscription, I can't watch local games from the NBA app, what am I paying $40 a month for?

[@BlkStar99]

It’s even crazier when you factor in that you can be in states that don’t have teams and be blocked from watching “local” games. How is it that I live in Alabama and can’t watch the Hawks, Pels, or Grizzlies when these cities are hours away from me and not locally broadcast?

[@bradenmark6976]

@@BlkStar99 For real how the hell as a person in Illinois I can’t watch the Memphis Tennessee grizzlies wtf are we doing man

[@InvaderJ_24]

@@BlkStar99that’s the main reason I canceled my subscription. Just wasn’t worth it.

[@b1b-O7]

Yes

[@Lightdragon773]

@@bradenmark6976 Bulls fan here. Its pain

[@BiggerShlaps]

KZbin TV is dumb expensive and NBA League pass is expensive on top of that. People aren't watching because you need to get a loan from the bank just to get some eggs.

[@yftstswaggin]

League pass is 16.99 a month

[@kingcobra2480]

😂fr bro shit mad expensive

[@i2Craftyy]

Streaming the game is literally free

[@manz7860]

​@@i2Craftyyand it's better. The stream I watch has the arena feed too.

[@kman9884]

@@yftstswagginNot worth it, frankly.

[@SilverSlugs16]

This is probably the most honest breakdown of multiple important factors. People tend to oversimplify the ratings thing and always want to pin it on one specific thing that bothers them. When in reality is a bunch of things

[@SkiLILs]

You mean do exactly what Commissioner Silver did? Blame the ratings on the presidential election and the MLB world series? 😂😂😂

[@trollinthedungeon5255]

I’m surprised the league didn’t shut down for a month after the election due to emotional trauma.

[@aklakl5854]

Rodney Reeves Front Office Sports 6-29-24 "The NBA continues to soar to new heights with a new $140 million salary cap and billion-dollar media rights deal looming. Despite the disappointment in viewership from this year’s NBA Finals, the NBA is riding the momentum of soaring sports property values." thats what the league will look like in the future.. soaring to new heights.

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

@@trollinthedungeon5255cry

[@Mptappin12]

@@SkiLILs😂😂 like he just wants to deny the obvious pure greed.

[@_rodgersutd4973]

TV scheduling is appalling as well, how is a game such as Boston v Minnesota not broadcasted on primetime television on Sunday.

[@noahjones3769]

NFL? But I hear you

[@already8007]

That, AND the fact that games NEVER START ON TIME!!!! If a game says it starts at 7:30 then tipoff should never be at 7:41, like ever. And I know thats so the game are staggered or whatever but I dont careeee.

[@AlphaAbyss_]

Man it’s the exact same with football over here in Europe so many different broadcasters and black outs it’s so weird that the biggest sport in the world and one of the biggest has such a simple fix problem

[@Mptappin12]

@@already8007 that’s another big one. I hate that there’s no definitive time for a game to start. It’ll be listed at 8 o’clock and it could kinda happen anytime in the next 20 minutes.

[@theophilusjones6024]

It’s true, I’m a HUGE NBA fan, watched games since 2009, watched like ALL of the NBA Documentaries and a basketball historian myself… however, it’s been tough watching the NBA the past couple of seasons man, and this year seems even worst. I really try, but it’s not easy (Playoffs are much better, I will say).

[@almightyyeezydab5149]

@@theophilusjones6024 because you’re getting older

[@Jala_haru]

Can’t relate to the players. Millionaires taking days off because they don’t feel like performing….Players gaming the system using flopping etc….The leniency on travel calls….game is a mess. The only thing excitement you see in these games is when two millionaires start scrapping

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

I couldn’t relate to 2000s players. Unlikeable era of Unlikeable players who were glorified for shooting 11/27

[@SkiLILs]

​@chrisuncleahmad666 damn, at least reply with some substance. Instead you resort to attacking an era of basketball. Sad

[@spcfl1461]

@@chrisuncleahmad666Crazy Ad-Hominem. Get better at trolling or debating jit

[@malikwilson7387]

​@@chrisuncleahmad666funny is yall talk about Allen Iverson and his field goal percentage

[@malikwilson7387]

​@@SkiLILstoday's ers is soft like cotton candy and chucking 3s

[@gsmoneybabyxxl7575]

Load management, less televised games, Stars acting Divas, Refs acting like Divas with outrageous Techs is what’s killing the viewerships

[@thh1899]

I stopped watching the NFL in 2018, NBA is real close to getting the same treatment. They keep getting paid more and we keep getting a worse product. It's trash. Stop giving them your money.

[@hmmmmmm6901]

Real just go outside and hoop so much better

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

The NBA product was never worse than the 2000s

[@improbablyyourdad8458]

The product is great today they just don't utilize the TV rights properly. Illegally streaming is better than trying to pay for their product. They should've made a deal with KZbin, Prime, or Amazon that allows paid and free viewing. Just have free users watch more commercials.

[@tropicmix8765]

​@@chrisuncleahmad666not true at all. Stop talking ball when you're a casual.

[@almightyyeezydab5149]

The NFLs ratings are near all time highs. They’re not missing you

[@manz7860]

For me its the abandonment of fundamentals. On offense, players are allowed to travel, discontinued dribble, and carry with the ball as they please. On top of that, defensive players are at the mercy of referees. Sometimes its hardly even basketball

[@Kings0424]

Fundamentals are overrated

[@lymphomasurvive]

​@@Kings0424No.

[@Kings0424]

@@lymphomasurvive Most definitely is

[@lymphomasurvive]

@@Kings0424 Any game has rules. The point is to win within those rules. It's the limitations that make a sport a sport. As a side note, how are you both a Kings and Bengals fan? Genuinely curious question.

[@Kings0424]

@lymphomasurvive Well I was born in Sacramento and grew up in my first 8 years of my life before I moved to Cincinnati and lived here until last year when I moved to Dallas. Besides I started watching the NBA and the NFL at the same in 2007 when I was 3 years old and I really liked both of those teams

[@whackeryounis]

i only watch 10 mins highlights and even i find it boring

[@hmmmmmm6901]

Lmao 😂

[@tuneunleashed]

Facts!!

[@thraxmusic687]

Facts

[@marcelo1458]

Yh I just fast forward to the 4th Q cause I know the game will be within 10p margin anyway

[@GOlone9597]

Fr, I skip to the 4Q

[@EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach]

The last 4-5 years there have been some solid high draft picks. BUT THEY DON"T MARKET THEM.... The national media doesn't, the league doesn't sponsors don't.... Just ugh

[@alexlarsen2464]

NFL knows what’s up. Most of the good games are on regular channels at the same time every week. Every game is important. Until the nba stops punishing its fans they won’t ever overtake the nfl.

[@SI-cd7xs]

lol they were never close to nfl it was pure delusional to ever pretend nba was going to surpass the nfl

[@jmgonzales7701]

I think one reason why i prefer the nfl is because the season is crazy efficient. Its less but almost every game matters and there is no unecessary series. I never liked the idea of series and i favored 1 game per play offs. Maybe if it was a series i would say best of 3 is suffice. Nba for me seems bloated like i would not watch half of the season and it felt like i didnt miss out. I would say nba needs to cut out some games in the regular season but they wont do that. Too much money would be lost.

[@jmgonzales7701]

​@@SI-cd7xsin america only.

[@yoyo0899]

stopped watching cuz theirs no defense and theirs things like a “touch foul” that exist

[@hmmmmmm6901]

There’s* bro

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

I stopped watching for years because there was no scoring and flagrant fouls were considered “tough defense”

[@ThaTruth223]

touch fouls has been a thing for decades now you buffoon

[@SkiLILs]

@ThaTruth223 he's a buffoon because you don't like what he said? Sensitive and a 🤡 😂😂😂

[@minovictor]

As someone not from the US, PLEASE give me an option to not have commercial breaks, I would pay extra. I would actually stay engaged. The rest of the world isn’t used to watching 1:30 of adverts every couple of minutes. If I could just listen to analysis during timeouts I would probably watch more of the meaningless games. Was watching a bucks game last week and there were basically 3 back to back timeouts and they play the SAME exact adverts over and over and over. I’m already barely interested in watching someone of these games and now I have to see the same commercials on REPEAT every couple of minutes???? The NBA are not putting out a good enough product to warrant that shit. Please someone let me know if there’s an option to no timeouts during timeouts

[@rest4rt000]

I can’t even watch my bulls because they changed their streaming service o something I literally can’t even get. That’s why because of shit like that

[@jmsantiago1]

I think the main factor for viewership is price, and everything is tied to subscriptions. Shit's not cheap, and the cost of living has skyrocketed, which means less money for entertainment. I do agree that defense needs to be prioritized and honestly they should bring back hand checking

[@ambientsounds5832]

its simple, we cant afford it.

[@isaiahsingleton6283]

I think Mase touched on this very beautifully on his show "It Is What It Is" when he mentioned Load Management is killing viewership. People spend their hard earned money to watch a good game ANNNNDDDD their favorite players playing. Imagine giving all you got to see your towns team or favorite player, and they aren't playing because they are injured or load managing games. Why see the game at that point? You have a few of these for the past 4 seasons...what do you expect to happen? Viewership going up?

[@ThaTruth223]

yes load management is killing n views and not the fact that local games aren’t easily accessible, and every is subscription based. yes let’s blame the players only and not the flawed infrastructure behind viewership

[@lymphomasurvive]

​@@ThaTruth223It's the players and coaches.

[@Trollificusv2]

@@ThaTruth223 Both things can be true.

[@ghtraining1]

Make the game closer to fiba rules. 10 minute quarters Fewer timeouts Don't advance the ball to half court with a timeout. Speed up the review process. Speed up freethrows The MLB made some good changes to cut down the length of games and the NBA needs to do the same! I agree about some of the changes being made to get scoring up was good bit it was too far. Allow the defense to be more physical on the perimeter. Offensive players have been allowed to get get away with carrying and get an extra step for a step back 3. That needs to stop! Fans want true basketball! These athletes will adjust!. Allow the defense to a

[@devoncarter6369]

2 years ago I payed $109 for league pass, $40 for Sling, and $70 for KZbin TV

[@tnsxpm]

Go with me here because this happened in the film industry multiple times and it's the exact thing ruing the NBA play style. - The Bourne Identity drops in 2002 and displays an entirely new cinematic fight scene concept. The fights were cut into 5-10 second long clips of mixed close up shots that made it feel like you were in the fight yourself. Beautifully done. So well done that every action movie from 2002 to 2012 and still some today have quickly cut and stitched together shots including extreme close ups. Almost NO film ever got it right until John Wick used that method and expanded on it by introducing gun-fu which is long sequences of choreography based on a few old niche Chinese movies. - Avengers drops in 2012 popularizing the beaten dead overused movie trope of "a beam of energy from the sky that will end the world" that was used in almost every mid-to-bad comic/adjacent movie until 2020 and I'm sure some still use it. Same thing happened in the NBA where the Warriors introduced a new style of play that relies entirely upon 3 point shooting. It was beautiful and history was made. Unfortunately, we are now seeing what we saw in the Film Industry and it's just as blatant if not worse. Copycat Syndrome is mimicking something, sometimes without fully understanding it and the same way those writers/directors didn't understand the styles they were imitating is the same way these coaches/organizations don't understand the Warriors. *These guys are NOT Steph Curry and they are NOT the Warriors* and imitating that play style without the necessary pieces is detrimental to the product as a whole. (If you read that entire thing you're dope & thanks for coming to my ted talk 🙏🏾)

[@Dontpayattention88]

The crazy part of this is older people have been saying this exact thing and were told their just hating

[@kylelaforest9919]

And they were

[@SirCentrism]

@@kylelaforest9919 ratings say otherwise

[@SilkyLew]

​@SirCentrism If this era was in the 90s, it will be up like crazy. nowadays people have way more entertainment and subscriptions are way too high. The other excuses are just wierd takes. People are complaining that teams are trying to win at all cost. People are complaining about threes, but the top players aren't even shooting many threes lol. The only thing I agree with is, defense needs more lead way.

[@SirCentrism]

@@SilkyLew so explain to me why the nfl ratings are still so high? Even with distractions, people will tune into what they want to watch which doesn’t seem to the nba currently

[@DragonoftheDarknessFlame]

We watch it just not the places they want. Why do I gotta pirate NBA because everything isn't uniformed? They do it to themselves

[@jaxsonburch-eo1vz]

The problems with the all star weekend and specifically the game are starting to bleed into the regular season. I used to get excited for match ups like cavs vs warriors on a Sunday night. Or Christmas Day games. The luster is gone. Maybe that’s life changing things, but the homogeneous nature of the three ball doesn’t help. No identity anymore.

[@99BullD]

The NBA should just expand the 3 point line to make it more difficult for players to make 3's.

[@Foreriverricky]

The title should be Nobody is paying to watch the nba anymore I've been streaming for free for years lol

[@7.62G0d]

Where ?? Help me out lol

[@YersiniaPestisNPO]

No game is blacked out with streams 😎

[@papigatitoASMR]

Where? 😅

[@LandonsoLucky13]

NBA bite fellas

[@Foreriverricky]

@@7.62G0d steam east or sports bay those my sites

[@marknewsome23]

the optics of the game has changed too. too many ads on the court, these nba cup courts/jerseys are an eye sore and sometimes it’s hard to even tell who the home team is at first glance

[@koki84ji7]

Everythings free on the internet my guy

[@TYLOTYLOTYLO]

This is why as a Sixers fan I was proud of our teams over the last 5 years (not this season). We have been the best team in recent times when it comes to getting to the free throw line and being aggressive. Yes that opens you up to critique from rivals because they call you free throw merchants. But I would much rather have a thing thats OURS. Rather than throwing up 35-50 3s a game.

[@drakevick1646]

Slight correction: the shot clock was first introduced to college basketball, because of the dominance of the John Wooden UCLA Bruins. That’s the team who the strategy was created to fight against, and it lead to many games ending in scores of like 20-10, or 17-13. So you were right about the 50’s era being when it was first introduced, you’re right about the reason why it was introduced, just off on which team and league they were playing in.

[@lebarbosa9778]

Ppl talk like they didnt have stat nerds back in 2010. The 3pt shot is so valuable now because you can shoot balanced since guys are catching a pass with 2 foot on the floor and then shuffling their feet to square to the basket, no call. They step back with 4 steps, no call. The offensive side of the ball have NO RULES basically. That's whats killing the game. You can catch a pass, hop, shoot. Pay attention, players do this all game, every game. No call. Sometimes they catch a pass and do a quick 1,2,3 footwork before the shot, it's insane the difference of percentage you can get by doing that compared to keeping your pivot foot and steping into a shot or hopping before you catch the ball.

[@Solznmid]

More players now can shoot volume 3s at an efficient clip.

[@lebarbosa9778]

@@Solznmid and I showed you the reasons for it

[@VoltageMarvel]

thank you. shooting threes and analytics arent the issue. its the subscriptions, costs, load management, restraint on defence, and crappy officiating that's making it a problem.

[@darthsiddious7469]

NBA is turning into WWE. WWE had 10x more regular viewers in the late 90s, but they make 10x more money now off of a smaller group of die hard fans. Both have awful regular weekly product with the WWE's PPVs being like the NBA playoffs.

[@Improve305]

When Ant said that no one in the 90’s was skilled besides Jordan. It’s hard to take the new age stars serious. Haven’t watched a single play of Minnesota. Don’t feel like I’m missing much

[@dustinrhodes4793]

It's crazy to me they don't have team specific streaming packages. I only care about one team (Lakers), I dont need a league pass for all 30 teams

[@manz7860]

And then you have to pay 60 bucks a month for spectrum sports package. got rid of spectrum last year. Why pay for cable when I'm paying for internet.

[@dustinrhodes4793]

@manz7860 yup, it's all so greedy. Ripoff

[@mrfathed3129]

My major reason for not watching much lately is just that League Pass fucking sucks. That said, I too agree with the Shaq take. It's just the saying often attributed to Sid Meier, "Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game". Yeah it's about video games, but it's just a general truth.

[@ididntaskverified3663]

Once people cancel their subscriptions, they will realize that they don't need them anymore and the nba will raise the price of the subscription to compensate

[@squidfather]

I think an underrated reason is how the draft/rookies don’t really turn teams around. If you are a bad team, you basically need to hope a good free agent wants to come to your team. Look at the NFL vs the NBA, the Texans have new life and fans feel like they are contenders… contrast that with the NBA, if you get a good player, it probably won’t turn your team around, and after their rookie extension, they will probably leave for a big market.

[@BLee09]

That's not really true. You got luka, Ant, Ja, Trae young for a couple of years had the hawks back relevant as well. Rockets turning things around with sengun and jalen green. Look at what giannis and jokic have done with their franchises.

[@tropicmix8765]

​@@BLee09those are exceptions not the rule, and Giannis wasn't that level of player until several years after he was drafted. Trae is all star good but not superstar good. Not to mention, even if you get a Luka or Jokic you need to have the pieces around them to win because every contender has minimum two top 25-30 players. So even when the Pistons or a team like that gets a guy like that, his confidence is immediately destroyed because he can't beat those teams alone. It's like any quarterback that went to the Browns before Baker.

[@BLee09]

@tropicmix8765 bruh what? I named 7 different teams that turned their franchise around through the draft, and that was just off the top of my head. Of course you have to build around them. That's how it works. What player has turned a franchise around without the team building around them? Even jordan has a team built around him and a coach to compliment him.

[@DevicCypher]

They can stop rigging games. That would help a lot.

[@deacon6221]

As the economy hopefully gets better viewership will rise. Everytime there’s an economic struggle, amenities decrease in sales and basketball is not a life essential it’s an amenity.

[@KripkeSaul]

It is too many games, too many flops, no physical play, piss poor pundits kissing the ass of over the hill players.

[@mobrown1198]

It is not just that teams shoot so many three’s. It’s the elimination of positions. When I watched the recent draft… players were listed as Guards, Wings, Bigs. There used to be defined positions, with coinciding roles. Because of the emphasis on the three point shot, all players are by default, are forced to play the same way. There is one outlier and that has been Denver and Jokic, who shoot on average 12 threes a game. The year they won the championship, they were near the bottom of the league in three point attempts. “The most efficient way to win”~ this is such a general assessment, by efficient does this mean shooting percentage? The 80’s and 90’s the had the highest overall shooting percentages. The games were more competitive, as the defense had a fair chance. The rules adjusted too far in one direction. It wasn’t necessarily the hand check, but the other rules, that weren’t enforced (moving screens, carrying, traveling, offensive fouls) Then the zero/gather step, freedom of movement, gave players even more of an advantage offensively ~ a subject that has led the narrative that modern players are more skilled… Which many OG fans have noted, that if they are so skilled why do they need these rules..? Then there’s analytics. It has changed the way players are evaluated, and it has eliminated post play, and mid range from the game. Fundamentally changing the game. The modern game is completely a different game of basketball, and what we are seeing is how many fans aren’t interested in watching. Now Gil’s take is a straw man argument, because the ratings in question have been the nationally broadcast games. The games available to most audiences for free. That was the measurement. The viewership for the NBA finals were down… and the ratings continue to decline for these games year to year. It’s the same thing for the illegal streaming argument. That’s not what was being debated. It was solely based on nationally televised games. Those arguments shift the goalposts, in order to defend the product on court. Those arguments don’t address the issue of the on court product. The long term consequences are that throughout American basketball system, from the youth leagues, high school, AAU, college, NBA, young players are developed and mimic the NBA. As a result the players are not even learning how to play in the post. They are taught and play the game the exact way the NBA plays. What’s the use of having a 7’0 player play like a 6’3 player? So you won’t see a young big, talented enough in all areas to challenge a Jokic… or a Giannis to a lesser degree, Embid when healthy.. Anthony Davis. Who is primarily a face up big. If there were guys developed in this manner, teams would and could still win games, it would change strategy, especially if the rules that favor the offense were scaled back. Anyway the genie is out of the bottle , and there’s no going back… the ratings will continue to decline… even the old way of marketing players has run its course. Prior to Jordan ascension in the 90’s… the NBA marketed the game and not individual players… there were rivalries, and players matched up against other great players… something you rarely see in todays game with the spread offense, and the switching on every play… trying to find the mismatch. Fans miss the individual battles ~ Kobe versus T-Mac.. as an example… The Bigs who would match up… even point guard matchups were fun to watch. They increased the competitiveness in the players. It’s alot to dislike about the modern game. The rules, the amount of threes, load management, the lack of defense, the lack of player matchups, the lack of rivalries, the media coverage… Scoring and stats have become so easier to acquire, getting a triple double is no longer considered great… because they happen so often and are so easy to obtain. I mean players don’t even have to box out and secure rebounds anymore, because all the bigs are in the corner or on the perimeter. I’m starting to see younger fans grow tired of this as well, and they are highlight driven, and have short attention spans… they are not watching games start to finish, they watch the game clips, and look at box scores.

[@carteja]

I remember last year I purchased an NBA League pass, I live in Toronto. I was so pissed that almost 80% of the games were not broadcasted I felt like I wasted over $110 US..Never again!

[@mentalcow]

Regarding networks, its just too many cooks. It is the NHL MLB problem. Too many and they are all spread too thin and all have different rules about if streaming is allowed. It is messy and expensive. It may not be fair to compare since it is less games and it is set days each week but the NFL has nailed it, limited networks, all available and able to be put under streaming freely. They have their own bad decisions coming as they add networks and paywall stuff which is messy but overall the unbiased commentary from set casts on set networks and channels works very well. I know its not 1 -1 due to the amount of games but... if they can find a way to secure that the NBA would fix a lot of their off the court issues regarding viewership

[@bboywolf]

All you gotta do is make the game from half court to the perimeter more physical. The midrange will be the least physical shot in the league and balance the league

[@tnsxpm]

6:57 I turned the Lakers game on when you said this and within 30 seconds I saw AD make his second free throw, the Magic set up 2 high screen dribble drives into a layup for Franz and the Lakers set up a high screen dribble drive into 2 quick passes for a corner 3 💀 Crazy

[@CharlesH-de9op]

Simple solution bring back hand checking until player crosses the 3 points line and eliminate the 3 second rule in the paint. So perimeter defense buff and basket buff brings back diverse means of game planning.

[@brianedmond545]

I'm 55 a certified old head and I'm here to say, everything the young soldier says is true. I've lived thru the eras and watched it devolve into what you see now. One the main problems we have is a weak commissioner. Dude is tragic. David Stern saw problems and addressed them immediately. Don't know why this cat doesn't. Not gonna take too much time, push the 3 point line back to where it used to be & bring back the hand check. That's two quick solutions....

[@zoesmith231]

Out in Denver we got the worst deal. Last year, I’d have to get direct tv because they had exclusive access to nuggets games. This year, the expanded who gets games on local channels but I or any of my buddies haven’t seen one game on a local channel all year.

[@Enyalus87]

You seen the details coming out of the Maxey/Philly team meeting? Shit like that would have never happened pre-2010. IDK why a dude making a quarter of a billion dollars for dribbling a ball can't show up to practice. Marketing is also, like you pointed out, a huge fucking mess. All I see on ESPN is LeBron and Bronny, Bronny stories dominating headlines even when he's playing like a bum in the G League. When LeBron was having his 3 straight triple doubles against trash can teams, Jokic was on his 4th straight triple double. Fucking averaging a 30pt triple double. Not one headline. You could have easily had an amazing marketing campaign of Jokic vs Giannis or Luka vs Tatum but the NBA is so concerned with propping up their aging superstars it's wild.

[@detwayjay]

Warriors Cavs Was Peak Basketball. Steph changed the game. He created a system that everyone tries to replicate but when they do it. It doesn’t look as amazing as them champion warriors teams

[@stonedecatur6602]

That was Steph and Klay shooting 8-10 3s a game, now you have the starting 5 on every team shooting 7-10 3s a game.

[@kylelaforest9919]

Too bad it works ☘️s bouta repeat

[@alod247]

Not peak basketball but damn good

[@scooter6079]

I think there needs to be a conversation about tightening the amount of playoff spots. Stars have very little incentive to play nightly unless they are in an awards race and this results in teams coasting through seasons with lackluster product on the court and still making playoff/play-in games. Regular season sports are more enjoyable and competitive when the games actually hold some weight towards their record(nfl,cbb,cfb). MLB, having the longest season in sports, balances this by only allowing division winners and a few wild card teams into the postseason. it’s getting to a point in the nba where teams are just going through the motions because they know they can put the bare minimum out and still make playoffs.

[@92alpha13]

Show of hands: who watches nba highlights and say phvck spending 3 hunnid to watch a game blacked out in your market or paying 150 to sit in the nosebleeds. 🖐️

[@olivernelson224]

I bought league pass as a Jazz fan living in North Dakota, every single Jazz game was blacked out in my area, had to get a refund

[@macedindu829]

When I was a senior in high school, our girls' bb team went to state. They didn't have a shot clock in the rules, and that's exactly how our team lost. The opposing team got a lead, and the last 10 minutes or so of the game was just hot potato.

[@alwaysboogie3485]

If the big three weren’t doing what they are doing at such late ages (Ie. Leading the league in categories still…) would it be easier to market new talent? I feel all three of them are generational talents and it will be hard until they are gone to get someone new to fill those roles…

[@alwaysboogie3485]

On top of that the impact those three have had on the game since day 1 of being in the league hasn’t be reproduced by this new talent at the same level since day 1. All of them have needed time to develop unlike those three.

[@01chohan]

Ratings don't matter. The NBA as a whole is making more money than ever. Just look at the salary cap (which is based on the income the NBA makes) and the salaries players are making now.

[@ambientsounds5832]

its in a bubble, eventually it will pop. look at Disney. maybe next tv deal will decrease for the first time.

[@Iamhimbutyouarenot]

Yeah you don’t understand how business works, especially when it comes to viewership and television contracts. Just be quiet.

[@aklakl5854]

This is what Adam Silver has done for the NBA James Dator SB Nation 5-4-24 *NBA’s new TV deal is worth $76 BILLION, and the salary cap is exploding again *A report from the Wall Street Journal indicates that the agreed to deal with NBC, ESPN and Amazon will be 11 years, $76 BILLION - shattering even the high-end of expectations. *Sean Marks, general manager of the Brooklyn Nets told the New York Post that he expects that by 2032 these supermax contracts will be worth over $100M per year due to the new media rights deal *-The future is ludicrously bright for the NBA, and players are destined to become some of the highest-paid athletes in history because of it.

[@malevxlent3934]

i feel like he would have added physicality back by now but the rate at which stars are getting injured has surged without increased physicality so he has become hesitant to put them in any more potential danger

[@cadrollhunting3564]

The pick and roll is partially so broken because we do not call moving screens basically at all. I would say that around 70% of all screens set in the NBA are illegal, sometimes you dont have to change the rules, actually applying the rules would already help.

[@hido...]

Recently had the idea to buy a ticket and go to a stadium for the first time. I checked the prices and instantly forgot about it.

[@ROY57ON]

NBA is so difficult to get into outside of US. If KZbin wasn't around NBA would be just as obscure to non-US markets as the NFL is.

[@Nightmare-we8vm]

Honestly, the game has been "figured out." Just like a video game, or any game really, to change the meta you have to introduce a new variable. Former game changing rules: Shot clock, adding/removing zone defense, handchecking, 3pt line, dribbling restrictions, tech fouls etc.

[@SkiLILs]

Players gotta be on board with changing the meta. Unlike Apex, the game can't just change without their approval.

[@troytheboy1985]

the 3pt shot will have to go to a 2.5 then no one will takes 3s

[@fergalhennessy775]

move the 3pt to half-court i wanna see ppl shooting like they are archers in the 600s

[@JayInDaKuetterz]

The Phoenix Suns games are on our own local TV Channel. It’s not fox or NBC, it’s literally called “Arizona’s Family Channel 3”. Love our new owner.

[@JoeNicks45]

Low saying pick n roll 3s are redundant then Low goes crazy watching pick n roll 3s. Lmao.

[@noahjones3769]

The NBA needs some new rivalries. Curry/LeBron, KD/Bron, and even Curry/KD are primetime-worthy matchups and usually deliver every time. I want to see some beef. Like I want to see Ja and Ant really go at it. But I also believe the mainstream media (not limited to networks like ESPN) also do a HORRIBLE job at basketball topics. Curry, Bron, and KD are already established legends. But when you have guys like Perk, SAS, and Malika do nothing but talk about LeBron and the Lakers all day, then this is what you have and that's why lots of people are starting to deviate to non-mainstream platforms for content. Honestly, we do need to give the BIG 3 their flowers while they are here because when they are gone, I'm concerned what the NBA will be if things don't change

[@ericsj40885]

Hell NAAAAH. THE WARRIORS ARE Bringing back and changing up the game AGAiN wit strength in numbers and has my eyes movin throughout the game!

[@Kamaii99]

🤡

[@robertbeck2094]

If I didn’t have a leaky roof, then some people are up there and I now have a leaky roof, I doubt I’d call those same people back to do the repairs

[@sillyweebanimeisforkids3413]

Low: Too many threes...ruining product Also Low: Screams and gets insanely hyped at heat check threes

[@jnerome]

I'm in France and I pay 200 euros for league pass premium for the whole season. And I have all the games. But we have the same multiple subscription problem for soccer games

[@ericberry3667]

My Cavs are now behind a paywall on local cable. And Yt TV only records the national games lol… this is so cooked

[@honorfirst7506]

- Def 3 sec violation bans zone, that’s an old illegal defense rule. -1999-00 is 5 sec back to basket rule. -1994-95 to 1996-97 is short 3 point line. - they didn’t want bigs dominating, they want SF, & G, dominating, that’s what the recent rule changes of the 1990s, & 2000s, were intended for.

[@TheMissiIe]

I just wish the NBA followed the NFL's "fuk analytics" mindset. Analytics says to go for it on every 4th down, but no NFL team does that

[@kcludvigson1258]

Blackout rules are so freaking stupid, I get blacked out for CHI,MN,& IND in northwest IA. Bulls channel is the only one available in super high TV package and I miss out on home and road games of all 3 on league and team passes. Shitshow!

[@matteoamendola4959]

I have to add something to the subscription point u made. As an european, watching football (soccer) in europe here is like 10 times harder than watching sports from the US. For watching championseleague and the own leagues in my country, ur probably pay around 100 euros a month and still deal with several problems. Thats why league pass is such a blessing in the sky, because its not even that expensive. Its worse in the US but trut me, the subscription shit really has no limts its straight war between companies. The face of the league point is completely valid tho.

[@HectorMariecote]

Thats why im using IPTV.

[@bigwerm013]

To add to the video game correlation nba 2k had the exact same problem. All these sweats just run the same lineups and play the same way it’s entirely too boring but if you really want to compete you run the meta lineup. The NBA needs to allow the defense to play defense. The rules have forced soft defenses and spawned boring offenses.

[@wnc2004]

I think the solution to this is to move the three point line back therefore it’s not as efficient of a shot and let’s not forget this isn’t the first time the NBA has done this. I believe it needs to be done again because the common NBA player’s range is far further than what it was even 6 years ago

[@katiemilkey9324]

The ONLY reason Im not watching games is because they're spread out across so many streaming services, and no one can afford all that. When I was working at a bar with cable and nba network, I'd literally be watching 2 games at once for 6 hours a night, 5 nights a week. Unfortunately, I didn't make any money there and it was a total clusterf*ck so I left but I didn't realize it would be so much harder to watch games at home. It always seems like the games I have access to are the ones I have little to no interest in watching. I hate to say it but greed is honestly ruining sports.

[@4ktkaram395]

Completely agree they’re terrible at marketing players. They keep promoting the old guys like they’re not gonna be finished in three years

[@TechyCatz]

If ratings are lower then its because of competition from all the online media. Its really hard not to be bored nowadays.

[@phinouttawater2571]

Problem with that argument, is that every other major sports has seeing an increase in viewership.

[@SkiLILs]

​@phinouttawater2571 it's almost like these people are paid to shill spreading misinformation for the league.

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

@@phinouttawater2571 Can I get a citation on that ?

[@brandonwoods9952]

Thank you for offering a nuanced take on viewership!

[@awesomereviews1561]

It’s the most efficient way to play because the rules allow it. Bring back Hand Check defense, and remove freedom of movement rule. That would make a big difference.

[@Cluez31]

I never thought I would get tired of watching the NBA. I can't even get up for my favorite team.

[@DerekDynasty]

Has a lot to do with college ball too. There is no way to learn these random players every year.

[@dt823]

True. In cfb you get years of exposure from the senior year of hs all the way until they are jr or sr in college. And it allows ppl to build connections to these players

[@SanJoseSharky992]

If you buy the $150 version of 2k before it releases every year. It has league pass included. League pass alone costs about that for the year so just an fyi for those who didn’t know

[@Keepitflat87]

Iman Shumpert called this out 2-3 years ago, on how the game will be played. The 2015 battle between the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Golden State Warriors will determine which way the league will go and style of play

[@josuerojas4157]

Would it be ridiculous to make midrange worth 2.5 points?? I think the would significantly change the shot diet if a game, maybe try it out in g league games?

[@roybradley853]

I would propose to limit three points attempts that would count for 3. For exemple every team can attempt 40 3’s per game. Past that limit, any three point made will only count as a 2 pointer

[@puncho8799]

The reason the NBA is not marketing, any of the up-and-coming players is because they’re still focused on LeBron Curry and KD. Once they retire then the league can focus on marketing the younger players.

[@MrMikeJagger]

You’re doing the good Lords work man thank you for saying what needs to be said🙏

[@SanJoseSharky992]

The reason why soccer has been around for so long and its popularity is unmatched is because there isn’t really a meta. It is such a rudimentary concept with fair rules that it doesn’t allow teams to easily exploit tactics…

[@gotti400082]

Silver is being hard headed So many people telling him someone farted in the room but Silver keeps telling us it's perfume 🤦

[@editmee.4102]

Absolutely! The 3 point shooting makes it so boring! No inside game, no crossovers, not enough playmaking create your own shot type of plays. I blame it on Curry. I miss true point guard play not shooting guard set plays.

[@alonzolincoln8745]

Another reason why viewership is down is because the fans have realized that the player have and make so much money that they don't care about the game.

[@roronoaDzoro1111]

Once again low with a fire video Mfers saying shooting 3s is ruining the game sound dumb and stupid. Shooting 3s is a natural progression of the game Whats really ruining the game like low said is the rules it needs to be changed to help the defense bring back hand checking and get rid of the 3 seconds rule that will drastically changed the game

[@funakiexpressV2]

There's almost as many subscriptions as there used to be sporting channels back in the day

[@0vern9K]

Defense should be the vocal point what makes scoring impressive is the defense your going up against. If guys can barley touch you on shots dropping 30, 40, even 50 isn’t impressive anymore. 6:11

[@ELGUAPOIV]

They play highlight ball, so I only watch the highlights.

[@HamzaWorldofFootball]

its down for several reasons and none of it is due to entertainment. Reason number 1 - the whole reguler season is useless becuase the season starts at the Playoffs, 2 - most teams are playing the exact same way, and its easy to predict the winner because the more talented team is always gonna win, 3- if the game is advertised to start at 3pm there is no reason for the game to start anytime between 3-4pm and 4 - americans love to promote athletism over actual talents hence why players like Cueley Stain and D Ayton ahead of Luka etc just to name a few. These issues are simple issues to solve, so I still have faith in the team

[@hamedsafi7715]

idk bout the 3pt shooting what gets me is officiating calling weak fouls or handing out T's because some looked at them mean, and the flopping to draw fouls like toughing up and play ball. Also the league not flexing games out when you know star players are out in advance like sixers opening night shit was so ass to watch

[@straitbeats]

They can slow down the 3 if the defense wouldn’t overreact to it. They run them off the line rather than just defending and once they’re ran off the line they drive, force rotation and pass to another shooter and shoot a 3. One big 3 point shooting contest. That’s why I like watching Kyrie, Ingram and derozan