Is the BMCC 2.5k still worth it in 2024? $100 Purchase!

[@cinechimp]

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[@crs2crs2]

100 euros, you must be the luckiest guy in the universe.

[@cinechimp]

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[@tekoppentekoppen761]

It's 1000 now.

[@cinechimp]

@@tekoppentekoppen761 Seriously? what country are you in?

[@IRyzoI]

@@cinechimp google alerting for what website?

[@cinechimp]

@@IRyzoI that wold depend what country you are in. Whatever the best one is for used camera equipment.

[@YuriusSan]

The fact you bought this camera for 100€ is a miracle. it's not cheap at all. Havent seen it go under 800€ ever.

[@cinechimp]

One of my subs just pickup one up, unopened in the box for 50 bucks....they are out there. The cheap ones are being sold of by DP's who grabbed them as crash cams or in car rigs to accompany their Alexa's

[@filmstudioritore]

Its just happines. I had also. I buyed Production 4K camera for 350$ :D Best buy in my life. :D Some film studio selled me. :D

[@13StopsPocketFilms]

You got a steal of a deal on that. Kudos. Love the first Gen BMD cameras. The footage it renders is simply magic.

[@cinechimp]

I know right I have my eye on a P4k now as well.

[@DaviesMediaDesign]

This is the camera I use for my channel. I inherited it from a family member about 8 years ago and it still works great. I always use the 1080 setting, and I've been thinking about upgrading recently so all I need to do is switch the setting over to 2.5k and bam it's upgraded. I can't imagine working with more than 2.5k - 1080p video takes up enough space as it is.

[@cinechimp]

Thats the PRORES codec for you!

[@zebrazone]

Very fun video ! Your shots are very high quality, it's really the talent of the cinematographer that matters, new cameras just have better ergonomics but in terms of picture quality, it's not night and day. Nostalgic of this camera and the old gen OS ^ I remember this Big Sur video on Vimeo with this camera, it was incredible

[@cinechimp]

You are a wise man!

[@filmic_man]

I remember the Big Sur video on Vimeo as well! It was incredible indeed.

[@rayzan9561]

3:30: "The footage coming out of this is as good as this". WRONG! The image quality of the BMCC 2.5K is superior to the new 4K or any other camera BM have made since. This is not just a good bargain. This is one of the very few digital cameras that tell a story with close to the same emotional impact of film. Everyone is just hung up on specs and numbers these days.

[@cinechimp]

So we both love this camera then?

[@rayzan9561]

@@cinechimp Indeed! :)))

[@ghostAndDarkness-o4n]

I will agree. I had the pocket 4k and then pocket 6k, they just look very "digital" I don't know how to explain it.

[@robocoontv3245]

I still using it and love it. Just shot some stuff this weekend. They used this cam on more scenes then I expected for Mad Max Fury Road

[@cinechimp]

I know. One of my mentors was the DP.

[@robocoontv3245]

@@cinechimp oh nice. I'm thinking about getting the LucAdapters magic booster for it but I'm not sure investing so much for this cam. I'm using the tokina 11-16mm and the sigma 18-35mm a lot and I'm fine with that

[@cinechimp]

@@robocoontv3245 We think alike. I have order a Magic booster and am just waiting for delivery. Keep an eye out because I will be reviewing it for sure.

[@robocoontv3245]

@@cinechimp nice to hear. I will definitely watch that review. It is better for me that you spent that money first 😉

[@TylerEdwards]

I have and LOVE that camera. Still the best image of any BM camera in my opinion. (also own URSA G2 and Pocket 6K Pro haha)

[@cinechimp]

Hi Tyler, thanks for stopping by. You're channels awesome mate. And I agree. I wish I had a G2, but man this pocket 6k pro is insane value for money. Right?

[@cinechimp]

@Sha Money The Best Rapper Ever I still think the 2.5k has the most organic look.

[@sthubbins4038]

@Sha Money The Best Rapper Ever I have the P4K, and the original BM cams with the Fairchild sensor. I can’t, for the life of me, get the same beautiful skin tones out of the modem BM cameras as the old ones. That old Fairchild sensor just seems to render skin in a gorgeous, multi-dimensional color. I wish it wasn’t the case, because the new ones are SO much easier to use. But if it’s image quality you’re looking for, you can’t beat classic Blackmagic (unless you go Alexa, obviously).

[@cinechimp]

you are spot on the money brother

[@normanlang1]

I still have my 2.5K. My fave is the original Pocket. I also love the images from the 4K Production camera. These days I use Pockets 6K and 4K. They all have their looks. Blackmagic cameras are so much fun to shoot with. Beautiful images.

[@gregormarini]

I had 3 of these cameras. I thought the same way like you but in the end I just had a lot of problems. The battery is a joke, most of my Canon lenses were not compatible. I had focus problems with the prime lenses; the monitor didn't show what was actually recorded. I couldn't use an external monitor because none of the SDI outputs worked! With external batteries or power banks, the cameras sometimes suddenly switched off and the touch screen of all 3 cameras was faulty. So, enough said …

[@cinechimp]

Oh man sounds like you got some duds. Sorry to hear that. Did you try and send any of them back to BMD for warranty repairs? Funnily enough, I have 3 of these now, maybe your old three….and you are right, one battery is napf, but one is good for about 30 minutes and the other lasts almost an hour, that's not too bad for 12 year old rechargeable batteries. I believe they are easily replaceable, which is what I am going to find out. The touch screen on all the units I have ever used have been flawless, except for one unit which I purchased with a smashed screen, but in all fairness BMDs first rounds of cameras were similar to the quality control in Italian sports cars, unreliable. But maybe I have been lucky as I have never had the screen on these or any camera for that matter no show me what was actually being recorded, but I may be miss understanding that part of your comment.

[@Mustang8ify]

I love the look of this camera and especially the raw capabilities. I shot a wild horse documentary on the 5d mark II in raw mode and it still looks as good as any 4k footage I have. Way to make us think about the quality we can get for little money spent. Very well explained and informative and most of all, done with a lot of soul.

[@cinechimp]

Oh thanks mate. I think my blackmagic cinema camera 2.5k, is one camera I will never sell. The sensor provides such a great look. Plus they are a proper durable camera

[@RyansCustomShopandGearOutlet]

Your video just convinced me to buy a "non-working" BMCC on the gamble that it is just the power supply. I'm keeping my fingers crossed until it arrives. Lol! I couldn't resist at the low price I found. I hope my gamble pays off. I'm a total amateur, but I'd like to make better quality videos for my content. I just subscribed to your channel to up my game!

[@cinechimp]

Hi Ryan I just checked out some of your stuff - great work! I just want to let you know for pure image acquisition you have made a great choice, but the audio preamps in these cameras are dreadful so I would make sure you go double system (camera scratch audio and separate sound mixer audio) so if the camera does power up, you are not disappointed with the quality of the audio recordings. Which are important for your channel. Nice guitar work BTW brother. Fingers crossed for you

[@RyansCustomShopandGearOutlet]

@@cinechimp Thank you. I appreciate the advice. I'm looking forward to checking out more of your work. Your practical guidance is super helpful.

[@cinechimp]

@@RyansCustomShopandGearOutlet Anytime - any questions about the camera when you receive it - hit me up

[@Frank_San_Nicolas]

I own many cameras and that is still my favorite camera.

[@cinechimp]

I agree. I grab it to shoot stuff all the time. The image quality is so organic.

[@FilmSpook]

100 Euros? Hey man, I need proof! Can I see the receipt? Kidding! 😅 You are Awesome, brother!! Fantastic bargain! I have the BMPCC original, and I love it. Thanks for this!!

[@cinechimp]

Nice one, great cameras!

[@marcopervo]

An MFT combo with EF Metabones, 2 SSD, OLPF, cage ran me $1100 US. They are now selling for close to $1000 for the camera.

[@cinechimp]

I know man they are going up in value, its crazy. I just snapped a 4k version as well.

[@letscreategreatfilm4488]

I love the image on the 2.5k I bought a few months ago. I bought it for 400 bucks from a pawn shop. My only issue is that the crop factor, which I thought wouldn't be a major issue, was. Shooting in an apartment or house is almost impossible, so I have to thank you so much for telling me about the Magic Booster C. I was going to buy the Laowa 9mm at 800 bucks. Now I can use my current lenses. I sincerely thank you. Insane how you got that for 100 clams.

[@cinechimp]

Man they are great cameras for their age. My magic booster came in a couple of days ago, so I'll be doing something with it of the weekend.

[@letscreategreatfilm4488]

@@cinechimp Please do. No one else has a video showcasing the magic booster on the 2.5k. Issues the 4k and 6k have with it are the odd lens flares, and slight addition of lens distortion. And the slight loss of image quality Thank you once again.

[@cinechimp]

@@letscreategreatfilm4488 its coming.....so many videos planned

[@shlawchablaas]

Hey just fyi, the $900 Laowa 9mm f5.6 is a mirrorless only full frame lens, it wouldn’t fit on the EF mount BMCC. There is a micro four thirds mount f2.8 9mm which would work with the m43 version of the camera, but it’s only around $400(usd). If you want an adaptable wide angle that would work with the EF mount, there is a Sigma 8-16mm for Canon EF-S and Nikon F mount crop sensors, as well as ~10-24, 12-24, 11-24, etc from Tokina, Sigma, Tamron, Canon, Pentax, and others. You shouldn’t have to pay more than 500 for a good secondhand rectilinear lens that could work as a wide on that sensor, and you could probably find some good options for around 300 with some patience. Sorry if you knew all that already, just thought it might be helpful. I have the Laowa 9mm 5.6 and love it on Nikon Z but I know it wouldn’t fit and would kinda be overkill if it did (just in terms of the full frame image circle).

[@cinechimp]

@@shlawchablaas HI Chris....yep totally agree with everything you say. My 2.5k is now speed boosted with a magic booster now. So closer to FF lenses are best.

[@chrisnguyendop]

Me commenting again lol but we are both in the similar mindsets with purchasing old school cinema cameras! Just won an auction for the 2.5K (will be here on Monday!) and purchased the Production 4K a few weeks ago and the BM Micro a few months ago. To go even further back in time, just got the DVX100 and have been playing with that too. Trying out some tapeless alternatives for that DV tape look on a digital recorder! Yup, totally nerding out! Lol

[@cinechimp]

Oh awesome mate, how much was the winning bid? Man you have cool lineup there.

[@chrisnguyendop]

@@cinechimp $375 but two monitors were included, 3 ssds, some simple rigging, and other knick knacks. Great deal!

[@cinechimp]

That's a bargain!

[@leoquesto9183]

Fun. Love BM cameras. Such major bang for buck. And your footage is making me miss France!

[@cinechimp]

Hey Leo, So cheap, so Good! And man has it been cold here. Which country are you in now?

[@leoquesto9183]

CineChimp My favorite times in France have always been during some bitter, damp winters in Paris. It's really intensely cold and an unseasonably snowbound storm where I am now in the southern US. It's like a once every 1.5 decade winter storm! Even non-migratory birds are huddling inside doorways. Anyway, I do really enjoy BM's BRAW so much, such a fantastic, lightweight codec, I love the BMPCC4K. This OG BMCC is still definitely worth having and looking forward to seeing what you do with it. Good looking stuff -- the original BM Pocket, as well, looked quite beautiful.

[@cinechimp]

@@leoquesto9183 Oh I heard about these storms in the US and the power outages on the news this morning. Hope you and your family are all safe. Have you been able to get out and film any of it? That would be some interesting footage to see. Yeah man Paris in winter, if it snows can be very special. Mate how is the new camera announcement! I have already preordered one.

[@leoquesto9183]

CineChimp No power outages. All are well, thanks for asking. We acquired new kittens before the storm hit so it's been loads on entertainment. So SO much snow. It really feels and looks like Ontario, Canada more than the Midsouthern US right now. They don't have very many salt trucks in the major southern cities, so the streets are like over 7" or more of snow in many places. I'll get a bunch of footage on my BMPCC4K in BRAW. I use a large MTB12 mattebox in order to use IRND w/that cam, so I will drop it down to temp and grab some footage. BMPCC6K PRO... yes, we were just gabbing about BM quality, the great deal factor, etc., and they unload the Pro yesterday. I will likely grab one on the next proj. I like the Sony batt, and the internal IRNDs *majorly* bc I do like shooting light and that means it would allow me to drop the matte box for a lot of stuff and just fill my pockets w/NPF batts. Look forward to seeing 6K Pro!

[@cinechimp]

@@leoquesto9183 Absolutely agree. You've seen my pocket rig in a the last video. Is huge. P6k is going to change all that.

[@JoaoSilva22222]

Loved the MTV intro!

[@cinechimp]

Glad to hear it!

[@jadoon702]

This video made me buy this camera and now I will cherish it forever ..... to know that this camera is capable of shooting a feature film or short documentary besides being a studio camera , is unreal! I Just shot some test shots and filled up many cards now I’m excited to see the result once I get a 2022 IMac Pro model for editing as I only have a new iPad Pro ... I bought this camera for $400 from a guy who uses the ARRI Alexa and he never opened his bmcc2.5k I feel lucky to have this camera and I can’t wait to share my footage with you after it’s done . I have the early version of resolve that came with the camera and I will keep that as well as invest in the newest studio version of the software for my iMac when I get it but for now I will learn on my old 2013 MacBook and use the early version to its max capabilities for now ...... I’m sure the new software can really bring life back into this beast and until I can run that I’m going to learn the ins and outs of resolve and see what the older version can do for now . Thanks once again for making me want to try out the black magic eco system and now I’ll definitely get the URSA12K for Christmas .

[@cinechimp]

WOW Lil Essa, you made my day! But hey the DaVinci resolve key in the box will still work today as its a dongle. It will give you full studio access to resolve, so you only really paid 200 for your camera. Amazing. So what ever you do, don't buy another copy of resolve, you now have one. And you're saying the 2.5k camera is brand new. Incredible. Lucky duck. Now I'm jealous. So now Im awaiting that link to what you have shot! ;)

[@jadoon702]

@@cinechimp yur reply Mae my day ! I literally had my friend show me that dongle thing and now I don’t have to buy anything besides my new iMac Pro 🤩 the only thing is that computer costs so much to get it sooped up it’s costing thousands hahahaha but the guy told me I won’t need to buy another computer for 6-8 years so I’m getting it maxed out for my video editing and Color grading I’ll hope I can do with that computer as well for a while

[@jadoon702]

@@cinechimp yeah I was shocked when I saw the plastic still on the box even the smell was great I should have made an unboxing video lol 😝 too late hahahaha but yes just seeing the potential of this camera being able to create a similar image of the arri Alexa after I use a LUT makes this camera simply magical ! It really needs professional lighting to bring out the best image because cheap lights just don’t cut it …… the thing they don’t tell you is that you will have to spend at least $20K on lights or rent them from a pro and have them do the lighting themselves professionally. My only hope for now is to buy a bunch of ND filters and a pro level matte box attached to my sigma art zoom lenses plus some reflectors and some lights for daytime from aperture as they are the most affordable compared to arri and joker lights I’ve been told it’s a hard pill to swallow so best is to rent and hire lighting plus gaffers this camera literally needs many things to perform at 100%. But when it does , it’s literally a professional camera not meant for amateurs at all they should sell it me buy a Sony lol hhhhhahahahaha

[@cinechimp]

@@jadoon702 Now that is some great news. And look the highest quality footage from this camera doesnt take a super powerfull computer to edit anymore. You should check out this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKSyg4GJZrWZqas it will walk you through everything you need to know about getting the best performance from davinci resolve on any computer.

[@cinechimp]

@@jadoon702 Well even the Arri Alexa needs proper lighting to look good. If you are looking for a varible ND filter. There is a specific Tiffen ND filter you need to get for the 2.5k cinema camera and it isnt cheap. But it is worth the money. You may be able to find one used. Hey they used these cameras on Mad Max Fury road as crash cams alone with canon 5dmkiis. When you now what your doing and someone grades the footage right, the blackmagic design 2.5k cinema camera can compete visually. Too many people get caught up with specs. Movies are shot 24P. So all you need if you want to be a filmmaker is that. YT, is a different beast.

[@michaelgiles9468]

i have one of these i havent used long time never tried battery for them whats a good battery system to get with this

[@cinechimp]

A cheap solution is a Sonf NPF battery sled with the right power connector. They cost about 20 bucks on amazon. And NPF batteries are dirt cheap. You just need to make sure you bet the right cable. Otherwise if you're looking for something you can use with other professional cinema cameras, a powerbase edge would do the trick with an Alvins cable.

[@selfesteemproductions]

Epic camera. Shot an entire horror feature film on it called "Extramundane." Love it!

[@cinechimp]

Oh awesome! I had a quick look, nice work and seems to be getting some views. Great Work!

[@selfesteemproductions]

@@cinechimp thank you! Do you still use the 2.5k?

[@cinechimp]

@@selfesteemproductions sure do

[@DerrykSchieck]

OG pocket my friend :D!

[@cinechimp]

its awesome - I love this camera

[@Evgeny_Voronin]

BMCC 2.5 👍👍👍

[@cinechimp]

I love watching treasure hunting channels like yours

[@jera3]

The old sensors in these cameras is the closest to replicate an Arri look IMO

[@cinechimp]

totally agree 100%

[@cyclophezurdo3883]

Nice intro. Nice video

[@cinechimp]

Oh thanks dude. Appreciate the kindness!

[@knocknapeasta]

Great video, I have huge nostalgia for these cameras - I sold mine in 2019 to fund my Pocket 4k on release. That Magic Booster looks brilliant, would have loved that back in the day! I'd be interested to know if there is a way to replace the old internal battery with a modern power bank. The internal battery life was always woeful. All the best from Tasmania

[@cinechimp]

Gidday mate. Its always a sad oodbye when you sell off stuff to fund other stuff. But hey life and work move on. Im the same, huge fan of the pocket 2.5k, which is why I snapped at the opportunity .... or should I say snapped up the opportunity - Tassie is awesome, love that part of OZ

[@brycekhilton]

There's a yt video out there of a diy internal battery replacement; Powering with an external battery is easy.

[@cinechimp]

@@brycekhilton Oh thanks for the info. Ill have to check it out, do you have a link?

[@stephanes.]

I have the BMPCC OG, still good and organic! just a crop BMCC sensor.

[@cinechimp]

Its stil very close to my cinematic heart

[@donwellsmedia]

Great video! Great camera! Do you have any footage with the magicbooster? I'm thinking about getting one.

[@cinechimp]

I actually do. I have en entire video showing how easy it is to install and then with tests....its just not quite there yet. Hahaha, I have been saying that for a long time. I have been so busy away from YT. Its hard to balance.

[@wullybud]

@@cinechimp Just checking in to see if this is still in the works? Having examples that show the difference is the deciding factor on me getting a magic booster.

[@cinechimp]

@@wullybud Hi there, thanks for checking back. It is I have been super busy commercially which makes creating for youtube hard sometimes. Got to pay the bills...

[@preshadagod]

I’m tryin to shoot music videos Is this camera good for beginners

[@cinechimp]

Hi there, absolutely is a great camera for beginners. But I would say now its more of if you can a fford it luxury camera. It has an amazing image quality, but the reality is that you most likely wont get it rented in 2022. Its ten years old now. I would go with the pocket 4k / 6Kpro. Or GH5/6, Sony A7siii or something from Canon if you require AF.

[@preshadagod]

@@cinechimp thanks

[@cinechimp]

@@preshadagod anytime any questions just reach out

[@cinechimp]

@@preshadagod anytime any questions just reach out

[@enzogoodrich4197]

Awesome Video! Just wondering where you got the camera for so cheap

[@cinechimp]

a long time looking and researching online

[@patosaita]

I have the same experience, I have 2.5 EF, 4k big ursa, 6k pocket, but I cant find magic converter

[@cinechimp]

You can buy them direct from the online store

[@NickBB]

Still looks amazing in 2021 wow

[@cinechimp]

Its such a good camera

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

What is you opinion on this vs the Production 4k?

[@cinechimp]

Oh I recently picked on up! It has a smashed screen, but it works. I remember shooting with them years ago. And the global shutter was a huge win. The camera does have slightly less DR than other BMD cameras, but hey man, the price these things are going for now....bargains a plenty

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

@@cinechimp I just picked one up and am worrying that I may be should've gone with the 2.5. The global shutter is nice and the 4k RAW is such a plus but that extra dynamic range from the 2.5k looks so good.(Also typically is cheaper)

[@cinechimp]

@@WHITEPERSUAS1ON the grass my friend is always greener on the other side. Both are great cameras. The rolling shutter on the 2.5k is major which is why I am magic boosting the camera.

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

@@cinechimp i think you are exactly correct. Thanks!

[@cinechimp]

@@WHITEPERSUAS1ON likewise

[@tekoppentekoppen761]

It's going up in value.

[@cinechimp]

Oh I didn't know the 2.5k was "that sort after", but hey good to know, thanks!

[@IgorDoval]

Is there much of a difference between the BMCinema Camera and de Production Camera 2.5k?

[@cinechimp]

Hi there, do you mean the pocket cinema camera and the 2.5k cinema camera?

[@YehorParkhomenko]

hi. i want to ask you for bmcc production 4k. does it good choise for 650 us dollars? thanks for your answer

[@cinechimp]

No they are asking too much, I wouldn't pay more than 400, but only if it came with the original box, all the accessories and the camera was in excellent condition. And everything worked after you test it.

[@octopuscinemachannel]

if anyones interested, we’ve just released a minimalist open-source CinemaDNG playback/review tool which supports the original Blackmagic Cinema Camera

[@cinechimp]

This does sound interesting for owners of older cameras. You can always use resolve for free. But I would love to hear more about the software???

[@TrIs1493]

Lucky you, because an online camera store sells a used one for 800 € (926 $)

[@cinechimp]

What seriously?

[@XanderPhillips]

Hey cinechimp. Great video. You inspired me to get the magic booster and it’s great. However Pentax k adapted lenses do not work. I run a Facebook group for this camera, please feel free to join us 😊

[@cinechimp]

Oh man, this is awesome news. If I was on any other social media I would join you for sure.

[@GorkaDiazz]

I got 4k production version... wish the had BlackMagicRaw.....

[@cinechimp]

Now that is something I wish my 2.5k cinema camera had as well

[@GorkaDiazz]

I regret to buy4k production, as I have a lot of mtf lenses... Nd being difficult work with 800iso when I'm coming from Sony 😂, but still worth it

[@cinechimp]

@@GorkaDiazz No rolling shutter is worth the reduced dynamic range, that is for sure

[@karenmcmullan2339]

I have the original bmcc and still get great film quality footage from it. Love it! But I do want to move into 4 k and slo mo but stay with the same lens mounts etc What do you recommend??

[@cinechimp]

Are you wanting to stick with BMD? Or or perhaps try other brands. Larger sensors etc? Do you need RAW?

[@danielcrippa5865]

@@cinechimp hey! i have the same doubt! I dont need raw, im using bmcc 2.5k with metabones F (nikon lenses). If i wanna use the same set of lenses (F) which cameras do you suggest? i do need slo mo 1080

[@cinechimp]

@@danielcrippa5865 If budget is a concern, go with a used BMD pocket 4k speed booster combo. Or maybe a GH6

[@juanaruba]

Hi bro..what type of memory do you recomend for this camera?

[@cinechimp]

I would buy the fastest SSDs you can get your hands on. Then when you sell the camera, you can repurpose them either to another camera / Ninja etc or into a computers system. Im still using really old SSD with my as the data rate isnt that high, but if I was buying today, Id go for fastest 512gb I could find.

[@juanaruba]

@@cinechimp thanks :)

[@cinechimp]

@@juanaruba anytime brother

[@accionarteslaverde]

Muchas gracias por la información, actualmente tengo una bmcc 2.5k MFT con un juego de lentes MD minolta que quiero adaptar me dijeron que sería una buena opción para realizar videos quisiera ver los vídeos que realizaste con la camara

[@cinechimp]

Oh thats great, but I haven't used many Minolta lenses in my time. In saying that though there is no reason you shouldn’t be able to get fantastic images from the camera. The DNG RAW files are also very flexible in post.

[@vilmossagi]

Thanks for the review...i was about to buy a fuji xt3 for 800€ because i have lenses for that system, but today i found an offer for a mint bmcc with mft for 500€ abnd a seriouly considering going for it. i would have to invest in lenses, but i really love the look of the camera. do you know if i can power the bmcc with a powerbank - or is vmount the only option?

[@cinechimp]

Hey Vilmos you absolutely can use a vlock or a power bank with the right connector. You can also use NPF batterie with a small connect which is actually the cheapest option.

[@TheRonellCross]

$100 -> $500 for the OG is a great deal. $100 is insane, even if you needed to swap to battery.

[@cinechimp]

Oddly, 1 is perfect after 13 years, one needs replacing and the other is ok. Good one runs for over an hour, the average around 20-30 minutes, the bad requires external power. Real mixed bag.

[@RubensSampaioDesign]

Nice video! I'm from Brazil and I would like to know where on internet (even international websites) I can get a BM 2.5k or BMPCC original.

[@cinechimp]

Hi there from France! Hmmm Brazil, best bet is probably eBay or local used dealers?

[@GorkaDiazz]

Also... sensor of 2.5k have better colours than production4k?

[@cinechimp]

Oh now this I totally agree with. The blackmagic 2.5k still has some of the best colours from any BMD cinema camera.

[@Giovanni-Giorgio]

I remember being blown away by the raw files and overall film like image quality. Smooth highlight roll-off. But i really really hated the moire that ruined shots in the beginning as i tried to monitor with the god aweful built-in lcd. Would be much easier with a BM Video Assist nowadays at 2500nit in daylight. Also when doing ETTR for lowest noise. The fun part was the Cinema DNG image sequences that this camera shot. Many times i didn't even grade in Davinci Resolve, but in Adobe Lightroom. Yes you read it correctly, Lightroom. Creating a Look on a reference frame and doing batch exports with that look on the whole image sequence. Call me crazy but the end result was pure gold as grading the 12 bit Cinema DNG felt like editing RAW photos. Back then i had a top of the line 512 SSD which you really needed. And hot swapping SSDs from camera into pc was effortless.

[@cinechimp]

Hi thanks for some fantastic input. Yes I do remember some people using that workflow back in the day, but I have always just used resolve on a Mac which has always been super easy with no playback issues. Today, the files are like butter on hot toast - silky smooth. You know you can change out the IR filter with a more modern one which drastically reduces the moire...

[@Giovanni-Giorgio]

@@cinechimp Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately i had to sell the camera in 2014 together with the metabones speedbooster, for under 700. I feel like a fool as AI upscaling and other software technology has evolved. I would have pushed the camera to the max. It would have been a nice shelve prop even. As a reminder at the good old DSLR days and this camera opening doors for low budget filmmaking.

[@cinechimp]

Oh man, what a shame, but hey you have to roll with the times right. They are dirt cheap now ;) and you are right, software improvements have made these cameras relevant again.

[@gregrebuck3585]

You mention that the crop factor for the LucAdapters Magic Booster C 2.5K is 1.4x. From their own website it states 1.6x, although they misspelled it as "Corp factor" so is it reliable? 🤔 Who knows. I got one last year and it seems to work. I got it in large part for the IR cut feature.

[@cinechimp]

Hey Greg, sorry for the late reply. The information I presented in the video was directly from the owner of Magic Booster. They may have changed the optical design since the video was created. I remember the one I ordered was said to be a customer order. And yes they work and are a fantastic product.

[@rostislavs.8445]

It's interesting, where to buy this one for 100 dollars?

[@cinechimp]

phototraders

[@ritasammy4575]

Good buy

[@cinechimp]

DAMN Straight

[@adamethancrow]

Thanks buddy, but this is three years old, I’ve been offered one for $800 Aus $, with a samyang 14mm lens, minimalistic cage. Any thoughts? Thanks

[@cinechimp]

sorry for the late reply…oh thats a bit pricey, I wouldnt pony up more than 400 aud for one.

[@robobin]

Can you explain what you used to power up this bad boy? My boyfriend passed away a couple weeks ago and I've since adopted this camera from his collection, but I'm not sure how to power it. He was super disorganized, it didn't come with any cables. Please help :D

[@cinechimp]

Firstly - sorry for your loss. I hope you are ok? As for the camera, if it doesnt have the power supply unit Blackmagic Design W-CONM-21 charger. This will charge the internal battery. To keep the camera running on set, you will need a Dtap to BMD cinema camera 2.4k cable from Smallrig or Alvins cables and a Core SWX Power­Base Edge battery with a Dtap out. Hope this helps. Any other questions about anything hit me back. Its all good.

[@robobin]

@@cinechimp Thank you so so much

[@cinechimp]

@@robobin Oh great way to honour him and continue his passions. I really look forward to seeing what you find and what you do with it...stay in touch. CC

[@tcibeatrecords4707]

Can you get an adopter to fix the crop factor? Is so, can you please give the name.....

[@cinechimp]

Yes, Magic booster by Lucadapetrs in Italy. They are great. I have one in my camera now and am testing it.

[@jmac2050]

the power is in the software. what the software on a camera can't do, the software on a desktop will finish..

[@cinechimp]

exactly

[@casadelosperrosstudio200]

I have 2 m43 mounts and 1 ef, as well as a 4.6k mini. I don't get to use them much, though...

[@cinechimp]

why is that?

[@casadelosperrosstudio200]

@@cinechimp Day job... family... but I did use them a lot when the schools were shut down for virtual instruction. We were shooting (and lightly editing) 5 lessons per weekday until we reopened to students.

[@cinechimp]

@@casadelosperrosstudio200 Oh cool. So you guys are teachers? Based in ? Teaching film production?

[@casadelosperrosstudio200]

@@cinechimp Sadly, no. I teach high school math. My co-teacher was also involved in video production in several capacities for years. Since his passing, I am the only math teacher at my school, so the best I can do is sneak some lighting calculations into my word problems these days.

[@cinechimp]

@@casadelosperrosstudio200 You are the only math teacher at the school. Man that sounds tough.

[@paulbowmanfilms2068]

sorry, but what look adapter? I have one and struggle with scan lines.

[@cinechimp]

Hi Paul, Sorry I don't understand your question?

[@uja1096]

How would you power it externally but not too heavy for a long time lapse (2+ hours outside)?

[@cinechimp]

I have another video online for my pocket 4k and have just adapted it to the BMCCP4k and 2.5k, you can watch that video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnTSZWSMepKfb68

[@cinechimp]

you will need a decent battery solution to run the camera for two hours

[@sergioknuf]

Can it shoot 1080p?

[@cinechimp]

The BMD design cinema cameras in 2.5k and Production 4k can both shoot 1080P

[@jesusmmfilm]

Hello the BMCC 2.5K is a good camera. And the video quality and photography look spectacular. I love cinema and as a hobby I make short films and I have a Nikon D2300 and I have done work with them and I have given them good photography and it looks great. Now I want to buy a film camera to record good quality for my work and I don't want to spend on an expensive camera either and I've seen the BMCC for 800 and the 4k is also good but it's expensive and the 6k pro is over 2,000 and I've seen your video And seeing the camera I liked the raw cinema quality that it records, it would also be compatible with a Nikon Af lens so as not to have to buy a canon lens and which one do you recommend is or is the 4k 6k better. Good job on your videos.

[@cinechimp]

Hi there, these are all great points and fantastic questions. And the Nikon you have is a fantastic camera and Nikon make brilliant glass. So I can see why you want to be able to use your glass. Heres what I would suggest: If you are really budget conscious and mainly doing narrative work, then the 2.5k has a better picture and more DR than the Production 4k BMD cinema camera does. I have both so I can attest to that. Really the big difference is sensor size and the sensor read out speeds. As the Production 4k model has a global shutter. That is the big selling point of that cinema camera. If you are looking to do slow motion, need 4k - well that rules out both the Blackmagic design cinema camera 2.5k and Production 4k. And places the Blackmagic design pocket cinema 4k as the camera you should buy. The pocket 4k has better slowmotion image quality than the pocket 6k, it ends up slightly sharper as the sensor crops less, which also results in less noise in the image pipeline. But if you can stretch your budget the camera I would absolutely recommend if the blackmagic design pocket 6k Pro. This is by far the best budget camera on the cinema camera market. There are too many reasons to list here. Have you watched this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIbLqGSbnputidU Plus you could use this www.kentfaith.co.uk/KF06.131_nikon-g-lenses-to-canon-eos-mount-camera-adapter to utilise your Nikon lenses. I would save my pennies until I could afford the pocket 6k Pro. It is a far superior camera to the 2.5k, 4k, pocket 4k and 6k cinema cameras. hope this all helps.

[@jesusmmfilm]

@@cinechimp And if I want to buy the 6k pro, the adapter you gave me can be adapted to this camera with a 35-50mm Nikon D2300 lens. Or I choose the BMCC 2.5k to make short films. I have doubts since I am looking for a camera with that cinematographic quality.

[@cinechimp]

The camera doesnt make the cinematic quality, It's what you do with it that does. Don't underestimate your own value as a creator. Go with where you are at in your career. If your making enough money to by a newer better camera, that would be the smart choice. These older cameras, while fun - because in some cases they are better - its a tough sell to get them rented on anyting. Unless a project calls form one stylistically. The 6k Pro is a better all round buy.

[@bluefilmsltd]

The biggest problem with this is that the rolling shutter is very poor especially compared to the Pocket 4k.

[@cinechimp]

True this camera has average rolling shutter performance, but it has a super organic looking image which IMO is more filmic than the BMDP4K. The pocket 4k is a far superior camera in many other ways though. I own and use both and sometimes its a hard choice of which one to use and other times - its straight forward.

[@bluefilmsltd]

@@cinechimp Yes, the image definitely looks organic, though I wonder if the lower resolution helps with that?

[@cinechimp]

@@bluefilmsltd Yes and no. Some hi res digital video cameras can look soft when using low bit rate codecs. I think its the sensor itself. Its quite unique they way renders images.

[@drknsss17]

It is such a shame that in Canada that these cameras are still very expensive in Canada..., if you can find one.

[@cinechimp]

Have you not been able to get your hands on one?

[@drknsss17]

@@cinechimp TOriginal BMPCC's are being sold as a kit with lenses and accessories for $ 1400+ CAD or on its own for $ 800 and those are poor quality imo. it better to buy a new or used camera from the USA, even with the exchange rate

[@cinechimp]

@@drknsss17 oh man thats rough. But still if you can find a good one - they are well worth it, especially for drama or doco work. Not so great for YT as they dont do slomo.

[@lrmcatspaw1]

100 E is kinda insane. Those go for 450 most of the time. used.

[@cinechimp]

Are you sure, the art of negotiation is a thing, but it's also knowing what to look for and what can be fixed. So far I have picked up a production 4k for 50 bucks, 2.5k for 100 and a 2.5k M4/3 for 75, all working with accessories here in Europe. You should check out my other videos, will have more coming soon….

[@marcuswaddell]

Why not make a new video talking about the camera, instead of renaming a three year old video?

[@cinechimp]

Hi Marcus, would you watch repeated content expressing the same opinions?

[@filmstudioritore]

I have 2x2,5k and i thing the senzor is like 16mm film. Also i have 2x4k production camera. And is bit higher contrast. But stil i using both of camera. And exactly. I have also 6k fot slowmo and if i do some event or anything when is not anought light. ☺️

[@cinechimp]

All the blackmagic design cinema cameras you have listed are awesome! Lucky you

[@kaneda8458]

Hii, love your channel, i have a problem, im searching a cinema lens wide and very bright like(12mm-t2.2) for this camera the bmcc 2.5k and i dont found anything,can you recomend me someone???

[@cinechimp]

Hi there, I would suggest something from Laowa. Ther are the only company making super wide affordable fast glass thats actually good.

[@peepo19]

Doesn't this camera have global shutter?

[@cinechimp]

Unfortunately not. The production 4k does. And they are cheap!

[@peepo19]

@@cinechimp Oh okey, I had a vague memory for global shutter so that's what it was. I'm looking at a production 4k with 2 SSD's and 2 cheap lenses for 1000$, do you think that's a good deal? :)

[@cinechimp]

@@peepo19 If you have a tight budget and dont need AF or slowmo, yes absolutely. The early Blackmagic design cinema cameras where all about image quality, so you know you will get that. Sounds like a good deal. Make sure you test the camera, before you buy it though. Another great thing is these old cameras really benefit from the DaVinci resolve improvements that have also occurred since their release. Pretty amazing when you think about it. LUC Adaptors also makes a FF speed booster for them. They are worth checking out.

[@peepo19]

@@cinechimp Thank you CineChimp for your in depth reply! Yes, I own a BMPCC 6k and so it would be mainly for narrative in controlled environments. (and I think the image looks very cinematic with global shutter and pretty colours so I'll go for it.) I would guess the Speedbooster is only for the 2.5 version though since the 4k has a Super 35 sensor. Am I right? :D

[@cinechimp]

@@peepo19 They are very close in size and if my memory serves me correctly, it covers both. They are great people over at LucAdapters. I have one. I just cant decide whether to put it in the 4k or the 2.5k.

[@stephanes.]

Alexa like footage (except dynamic range) the colors are astonishing

[@cinechimp]

Yeah man I still think this is the best camera for an organic picture they have released

[@stephanes.]

@@cinechimp I also like the global shutter of the BMPC4K, but less dynamic range

[@cinechimp]

@@stephanes. I know right. I have a speed booster from MAGIC BOOSTER and I cant decide for the life of me which camera to put it into.

[@stephanes.]

@@cinechimp if only you could have both!

[@cinechimp]

@@stephanes. dream camera from blackmagic design thats for sure.

[@risingempireentertainment]

Honestly i love my 2.5k vs my ursa Mini pro

[@cinechimp]

best value for money cameras on the market

[@DommoDommo]

Dang, now THAT is a steal of a price.

[@cinechimp]

What surprised me the most was how good the CNDGs graded in resolve 17. It was so easy now. back in 2012 when I first had one of these it was a super pain.

[@FIRUFILMS]

Nice i buy the mft version but maybe jump to the EF 2.5k or 4k version one to get more wide on amanorphic lenses and 2 hace gblogal shutter in the 4k super 35mm version, but 1 stop less of dymanic range ofc course check my fist video from my channel if you like, was record on 2.5k and upscaled to 4k, i use only c mount lens the canon 16 100mm f.19 with macro and the best is fully manual and is parcocal and only cost 60 💵 😊

[@cinechimp]

some of your c-mount lens stuff looks awesome!!

[@paravisual]

Cheapest and one of the greatest camera that shots RAW is EOS M with ML!:)

[@cinechimp]

Totally agree! But I cant find one as cheap as these BMD cameras….. maybe a future video perhaps….

[@simonc4764]

I use it as a webcam

[@cinechimp]

Awesome, just in 1080?

[@theearthisbread]

They should’ve just made the bmpcc 4k the bmcc 4k and make the pocket 4k as small as the og pocket.

[@cinechimp]

Great point, but I think you are going to be very surprised with BMD next camera that is soon to be released.

[@theearthisbread]

@@cinechimp can’t wait!

[@cinechimp]

@@theearthisbread likewise

[@theearthisbread]

@@cinechimp a blackmagic 8k haha wow. And that block camera seems pretty small and promising! Great for drone’s and gimbals probably. Still, the bmc 2.5k looks great till this day and its going to be 10 years old this year! Unbelievable!

[@cinechimp]

@@theearthisbread oh man great point. A decade. Amazing camera. I still love the picture this 2.5k baby pumps out

[@winstonross6375]

for $100 its worth it, not even a question lol

[@cinechimp]

Any camera for 100 bucks in worth it IMO.

[@winstonross6375]

@@cinechimp mad facts

[@BurninSven1]

Not true that is a good camera, I got one and 3 bmpcc, 3 Panasonic g7, one GH3 a couple of Gopros and they all produce better footage than what you show us here so....

[@cinechimp]

oh - the “love wont hurt you” is a cinematic masterpiece

[@alexandrzatonsky]

100 euros isn't 100$

[@cinechimp]

Amazing feedback!

[@TechCareerNow]

@@cinechimp It is now :D

[@_arturjutkowiak_film]

Congratz and here's what the camera is capable of: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJ6zeKego5iDbMk

[@cinechimp]

Hey mate this is great! Where are you based?

[@_arturjutkowiak_film]

@@cinechimp Hello, Poland.

[@icio718]

100...🤣

[@cinechimp]

Yep, 100

[@icio718]

Lucky man, pawn Shop?

[@cinechimp]

@@icio718 private sale. Im sure I reference that in the video