Is The Catholic Church Wrong About The Number of Sacraments?

[@SipswithSerra]

Thanks for all your work, I'm a recent convert to Catholicism from Protestantism and just started creating my own apologetics content as well.

[@luxray8852]

Have you had your first communion? Did you need RCIA for that?

[@SipswithSerra]

@@luxray8852 Yes and yes! Got confirmed this past Easter.

[@henrybayard6574]

Congratulations and welcome home. You can use proverbs 9:1 to show you that the seven sacraments are the foundation of the church.

[@Justice_Levens]

I'm 14 years old and converted 2 or 3 years ago when I started looking into this stuff. I am not able to go to confession, have first communion or be confirmed, etc until I turn 18, bc my parents are very anti-catholic. I just subd to your channel, and I hope to be making apologetics content when I turn 18 like you!

[@SipswithSerra]

@@Justice_Levens Wow what an amazing story! Very courageous of you to convert while still living in a household hostile to the Faith. Keep up the good work and thank you for the support!

[@CatholicWithaBiblePodcast]

You could do a whole video on dialectic narrowing (process of how words have more and more specific meanings). Pray, sacrament, worship, etc.

[@miguelpaivabezerra34]

UP!

[@BabyFaceNelson23]

Thank you for what you do you have taught me so much about my faith I love the fact that I am now can say I am a practicing Catholic where as before I was a luke warm Catholic I would go to mass here and there but now I am there every Sunday receiving the Eucharist and going to confession more often 🙏✝️🕊️

[@codycampbell9851]

Second!! God bless you brother keep it going you personally helped me and made me deep dive church history and the church fathers which brought me out of my Baptist upbringing to the truth of the one Holy Catholic apostolic church!

[@BelfastIsRed]

Please say yeo Adrian in your next video! God save the pope✝️✝️✝️

[@dismas6992]

I think there are good reasons for 7 sacraments not 8 or more. If I'm not wrong, the number 7 stands for perfection in the Bible. Maybe, this is the reason for 7 sacraments in Christ's church. Somebody may correct me if I'm wrong.

[@OzCrusader]

Correct 👍

[@PopelessCatholic]

Hi, the Anglican communion has a 2+5 system which the two would be called sacraments of Christ and the others sacraments of the church, as an Anglo catholic I can affirm 7 sacraments if I wanted, the 2 sacraments issue would be more of a reformed or Lutheran thing, and they affirm those because they affirm that’s what the Bible institute clearly

[@EmanuelEmanuel123]

Bibl 1. Baptism 2. Confirmation (chrism) 3. Holy Communion 4. Confession 5. Anointing of the sick 6. Priestly order 7. Marriage

[@110j]

Great content brother. I do have one silly question though: is this your natural voice? Or do you change it somehow? I was taken by surprise first time I heard you speak.

[@ignatiusjackson235]

Nah, that's his natural voice. It booms as if straight from Heaven, don't it?

[@110j]

@@ignatiusjackson235 lol insane vocals

[@dtreese]

Of course, Lumen Gentium and CCC use the older style of sacramentum and refer to the Church herself as a sacrament of the unity of God and the unity of humanity. It’s a beautiful concept and very accurate, but it muddies the waters a little when explaining the seven sacraments.

[@vinciblegaming6817]

I absolutely love that the catechism calls the church a sacrament. I was taught that sacraments are gifts from God and I’ve had a very high view of the church since well before converting. There’s no way the church body as a whole is not a gift of Grace to the individual believer.

[@vinciblegaming6817]

On maintaining 7 while calling the church a sacrament, in studying TOB, I’m convinced marriage and Holy Orders are two sides the same sacrament. It’s just a matter of who your bride/groom is. The church/Jesus or an individually created human woman/man. Both sacraments demonstrate the relationship between Jesus and the Church.

[@CrownedDiaries]

I appreciate the traditions in Catholicism…. The traditions are like a rope and it’s something tangible that’s tied to the waist of Jesus. I can see how it keeps your faith grounded. It’s beautiful…..

[@tony1685]

yet they are contrary God's Truth.

[@CrownedDiaries]

@@tony1685 in which ways do you mean?

[@bikesrcool_1958]

Tony, they are not contrary. What’s more contrary is many low church Protestantism

[@tony1685]

@@CrownedDiaries sorry for late response, youtube stinks when they don't show them! Ex 20:4-6, they still make and bow to statues, idols and body parts. Ex 20:8-11, today is the 7th day Sabbath, the Lord's day -- tomorrow is a day late!

[@tony1685]

@@bikesrcool_1958 nonsense, see John 14:15 and my post to @CrownedDiaries.

[@l21n18]

As i understand marriage was disputed as a sacrament for a long time, I wonder about that. The Assyrian Church still doesn’t have it as a sacrament and has a list of seven sacraments with two sacraments unique to them

[@AlwaysCatholic]

Babe wake up another Voice of reason video just dropped (I don’t have a babe)

[@mertonhirsch4734]

Orthodox agree to the 7 "mysteries", but also include others such as the great blessing of water, tonsuring of monks, and also veneration of icons, and hold that marriage actually can be divided into 3 separate mysteries including betrothal and crowning. The Paschal procession is a "mystery" where we join Christ in destroying the gates of hell, and so is hearing the Gospel at the liturgy.

[@davidn0747]

Thank you for your service bringing the word of god, i am part of the neocatecumenal way. Do you have knowledge on this hispanic initiative, objectively it's a good way of life but for what i am searching, the people, although they are my friends and i love them, they do not keep a christian life to a biblical degree like cussing all the time and using God's name in vain all the time, not reading the bible but only in celebrations..

[@lanmansvideos]

So Catholics (Peter Lombard according to historians) changed the definition of "Sacraments". Up until the late middle ages the first definition was used. It is my understanding that the early church fathers considered sacraments as anything that signifies Gods Glory and Grace. It is the things God uses to sanctify His people. Be it rites and rituals like Baptism or something beautiful like a sunset. Here is what I found: ‘SACRAMENT’ Historically, the word ‘sacrament’ developed from the Greek word ‘mysterion’ and the Latin word ‘sacramentum’. ‘Mysterion’ means ‘something hidden or secret’ - our word ‘mystery’. The language surrounding ‘sacraments’ did not develop in the Church for some time. We hear of a ritual of baptism in the Christian community of the Acts of the Apostles, and of the ‘breaking of bread’ - the Eucharist (Acts2:38, 41- 42). These celebrations were called by their name, there was no generic term for these experiences. It was not until the third century that the word ‘mysterion’, a word that the pagans used to describe rites of initiation, began to be used to describe Christian rites. In order to avoid any confusion with pagan thinking the theologian Tertullian began to use the Latin word, ‘sacramentum’ for ‘mysterion’ particularly in explaining baptism. The sacramentum was a sacred oath of allegiance to the emperor taken by a Roman soldier. Tertullian suggested that just as the soldier’s oath was an sign of the beginning of a new life, so too was initiation into the Christian community through baptism and eucharist. ‘Sacramentum’ then became a general term for the rites of Christian initiation. DEVELOPMENT A more detailed reflection on the sacraments came from St Augustine of Hippo in the 5th century. Augustine developed the notion that a sacramentum is a sign that sanctifies - makes holy - because it is efficacious - produces the intended effect. For instance, Christ and the Holy Spirit make effective, through grace, the cleansing that water signifies in baptism. It was Augustine who called a sacrament ‘a visible sign of invisible grace’. He also, in his letters referred to a sacramentum as a sacrum signum ‘sign of a sacred thing’ It is worth mentioning that Augustine did not consider only rituals to be sacraments but listed over 300. The Church gradually reduced this by differentiating between rituals and signs and symbols that assist people in prayer and devotion such as holy water, palms, ashes etc. These latter are called sacramentals. Gradually seven major rituals came to be accepted as sacraments, named in 1215 at the Fourth Lateran Council as the sacraments of the Church, confirmed at the Councils of Lyon II (1247), Florence (1439) and Trent (1547). These seven were, as we have today, baptism, confirmation, eucharist, penance, anointing of the dying (today the anointing of the sick), marriage (matrimony) and the ordination of priests. Saint Augustine listed over 300 Sacraments because what was considered a sacrament was different for Augustine and the early church. The question then, is why did the church change the definition? I agree with the earlier definition that was used by Augustine and the early church. There are hundreds of sacraments, things God uses to bless us, draw us to him, and grow our faith. But there are two sacraments Christ specifically instructed His People to participate in as part of the community of believers. Baptism and the Lord's Supper. That is why many protestants don't use the word sacrament but instead use the word ordinances. They are the two things ordained by Christ for all those who come to faith.

[@johanneslutgens5038]

Not to be rude but I think your videos will be much more of value when you add primary sources to back up your claim. I understand it is more work but atleast you can help some protestants to find the right sources or comparisons.

[@porteal8986]

it would be appreciated if you cited sources and gave specific examples here, unsubstantiated claims on their own cannot be responded to

[@jordanperrault5039]

The difference of sacraments & sacramentals

[@HannahVictoriaAdventure]

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[@BrianEdwardandDog]

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[@HannahVictoriaAdventure]

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[@HannahVictoriaAdventure]

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[@dynamic9016]

Very interesting.

[@EliasRendonJr]

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[@catholicbeth2371]

Oops..... I am a Catholic convert, I was a high church Anglican. That church taught the doctrine of apostolic succession, a bit like Eastern Orthodox and 7, note them 7 sacraments..... Evangelicals might say 2 but that's not what I wS taught as an Anglican...

[@davidjaramillo8282]

I Just Hear Church, Church, Churcj.....and i dont Hear anything about how we are suppossed to live as Christians and about Forgiveness of others...hmmmm?

[@davidjaramillo8282]

When you said that what the protestant claimed made you laugh.....thats arrogance buddy and God detest that if you read.proverbs...nothing about someone not.knowing is funny when we talk about people either being mislead or going to hell.....lets take the word of God seriously

[@darrellperez1029]

​@davidjaramillo8282 Yes! Lets take it serious. It is also against the bible to take things personal.

[@franciscosuazo8607]

Clicked by mistake, but first hahahahaa

[@ivaldez5715]

Lol forget the number of sacraments. Jusk ask them if they're pastor has Apostolic Succession.

[@layov9640]

Do you need all 7 sacraments in order to be saved?

[@henrybayard6574]

No. You don't need all 7. The ones that are required are Baptism, Eucharist, confirmation and confession. The other two marriage and holy orders are voluntary and is not for everyone. The last rite or extreme unction is uses for extreme sickness or near death. Hope that helps.

[@miracles_metanoia]

I agree with the comments above. This is what Jesus gave us as we journey home to heaven. However, He is God and can work outside this... like saving people who have never had many sacraments, like an infant child or death-bed conversion with perfect contrition.

[@layov9640]

@Maximilian010 I’m just asking brother don’t get all excited. So we are In agreement that salvation comes only comes from Jesus Christ. Like it says in the scriptures. “For they don’t understand God’s way of making people right with himself. Refusing to accept God’s way, they cling to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law. For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God. For Moses writes that the law’s way of making a person right with God requires obedience to all of its commands. But faith’s way of getting right with God says, “Don’t say in your heart, ‘Who will go up to heaven?’ (to bring Christ down to earth). And don’t say, ‘Who will go down to the place of the dead?’ (to bring Christ back to life again).” In fact, it says, “The message is very close at hand; it is on your lips and in your heart.” And that message is the very message about faith that we preach: If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved. As the Scriptures tell us, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced.” Jew and Gentile are the same in this respect. They have the same Lord, who gives generously to all who call on him.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭10‬:‭3‬-‭12‬ ‭

[@layov9640]

@@henrybayard6574 thanks for the information. So what im getting from this is that in order to be made right with God we have to add sacraments for are salvation? ““For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him. “There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭21‬ ‭

[@eddardgreybeard]

​@@layov9640 Christ instituted the sacraments and saves through the sacraments. They do what they do because Christ is doing it. Saying "Christ alone is necessary" misses the point so hard one would wonder if you're paying attention or are inflicted with a diminished capacity

[@Catmonks7]

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[@cephasmwila7537]

Does the Catholic church have 30 sacrements

[@BroChill-mz4sg]

No, the Church has seven. Baptism, confirmation, Holy Eucharist, reconciliation, anointing of the sick, holy orders, and holy matrimony

[@henrybayard6574]

The seven sacraments are the foundation of the church. See proverbs 9:1

[@KilborneYenz]

Hallelujah!!! I’m favored and blessed with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and also support the work of God and the church.

[@PatriciaHenderson-ry7qb]

Oh really? Tell me more!

[@KilborneYenz]

This is what Ana Graciela Blackwelder does, she has changed my life.

[@KilborneYenz]

After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son’s (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.

[@Believers49]

I know Ana Graciela Blackwelder, and I have also had success...

[@Believers49]

Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Ana Graciela Blackwelder.

[@ABM-gs8gm]

I don’t understand why you’ve been criticizing Islam and you’ve not confronted or debated a knowledgeable Muslim

[@emmetranous9682]

If they were knowledgeable they would be open minded if they were open minded they wouldn’t be Muslims

[@dexterhd438]

Becaus with muslim moat of the time you debate you don't arive anywhere, beaucse that they say wher in bibles is mentioned holy trinity and if you give the prof they start with, yeah but bible is corupted

[@killzone6820]

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[@mladenzrnic2669]

Bêste katoliken, ortodoksen of protestanten, wy moatte allegear fan elkoar hâlde en yn frede libje

[@alternativefactory7190]

True. Where better to do that in the church founded by christ. The one holy catholic and apostolic church.

[@mladenzrnic2669]

Do hast gelyk

[@NX2-30]

Let’s all join the universal (catholic) church

[@mladenzrnic2669]

@@NX2-30 Wat is de Universele Katolike Tsjerke?

[@VictoireOuMort]

@@mladenzrnic2669 The Catholic church founded by Jesus Christ. Not the orthodox church founded in 1054 or the thousands of protestant churches founded whenever.

[@heavenbound7-7-7-7]

There are two sacraments, baptism and the Lord's supper.

[@VoiceOfReason_]

Not according to the Bible or the first 1500 years of Church history 😊

[@heavenbound7-7-7-7]

@@VoiceOfReason_ Do you need to get married to be saved?

[@heavenbound7-7-7-7]

​@@VoiceOfReason_So you don't need to receive all the sacraments to be saved?

[@VoiceOfReason_]

@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 nope. But marriage leaves an indelible mark on the soul of all people who enter into one. That’s why marriages cannot be disolved, because marriage is a sacrament 😊

[@georgepierson4920]

304. What is a sacrament? A sacrament is an outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace.