The TRUE Story of How The Bible Was Put Together

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[@wildhunt3302]

The Protestant guy said at the beginning of the video that he did everything in his power to disprove what his Catholic friend said about the canon. That shows that he didn’t search for the truth but rather whatever would fit his bias. He discredited the entire video from the beginning. Great job Alex with bringing out facts and actual history.

[@kennethprather9633]

Remember it was the Jews that rejected the Apocrypha from the old testament first. Then it was tested verse by verse against the rest of the Bible. And found to not be inspired by God.

[@brandonedwards1181]

Its sad how Protestants pervert the holy scripture and how they are taught like soldiers certain scripture to go to war with the Catholic church. We aren't taught to weaponize the bible like that, and I can say how blessed I am that I was raised Catholic. However I did fall away, and when I came back to the faith I listened to Protestants which all said something differently, it threw me into confusion until the holy spirit guided me to the one true holy apostolic church.

[@kennethprather9633]

@@brandonedwards1181 We fight against the false doctrines were they are. All false doctrines have been identified for years and proper interpretation of scriptures has gotten leaps and bounds better over the years . The Churches with false doctrines teach changed meaning of scriptures to cover for the false doctrine like a Cult does, making it difficult for those defending the false doctrine to see the truth. The false doctrines take many Christians to hell by slow separation from God.

[@dennisandretuestaflores448]

@@kennethprather9633 Then which is the true church founded by Jesús, among all those churches?

[@kennethprather9633]

@@dennisandretuestaflores448 Definitely not the Catholic Church. It has 95 false doctrines. I look for Churches that have zero false doctrine. But the Church Jesus is talking about is all Christians of any Denomination around the world from his time to now. Peter said we all are living Petros. He was the first. And we make up the beautiful Church that is in Jesus.

[@Byron.D]

A 95 Thesis video AND a Council of Trent video? I say YES to both! 🙏

[@jineshfrancis]

"3 things our protestant friends will not have without the catholic church" 1: The sacred scripture 2: The doctrine of trinity 3: The doctrine of Hypostatic union short canon history The Bible is a Catholic book. The Magisterium of the Church has the authority to determine the Bible canon. In AD -382 Pope Damasus-I At the First Council of Rome, the first complete canon was promulgated ... All 73 books (46 in the Old Testament and 27 in the New Testament) are included in today's Bible. Pope Damasus declared that not a book should be added to this canon, nor should a book be taken away from it. Council of Hippo (AD - 393) Reaffirmed (state again strongly) 73 books in the Bible. Council of Carthage - Reaffimed the declarations of the Council of Rome in AD - 382 and the Council of Hippo in AD -393. In AD - 419 the 4th Council of Carthage confirmed all the decisions of the 3rd Council of Carthage. The Council of Florence (AD - 1442) reaffirmed the canon. Council of Trent AD-1546 Reaffirmed the canon. St. Jerome's Bible (Latin Vulgate) is officially announced once again. The Purpose of the Council was to counter the false doctrines caused by Protestant heresies. *British Bible society* and Robert Haldane (not Calvin or Zwingli or Luther) was responsible for removing 7 books from the Protestant Bible. Under Haldane's leadership, in 1821, a movement began against the British Bible Society demanding that funds not be given to Bible societies that were printing the Deutero Canon. The resolution was passed in 1822, which means that it has been only 200 years since Protestant churches started using the 66-book Bible. In the Heidelberg Disputation (AD1518) and Theses - 17 and 35, Luther quotes from the book of wisdom, Sirach ( Deutero Canon) for his arguments. Martin Luther debated with Catholic theologian Johann Eck in AD-1519 about the doctrine of purgatory... Luther's Arguments are Debunked... With that moment Luther took a stand the book of Maccabees was not part of the Canon ... (Jewish Canon was Right) Luther who rejected the canon of Septuagint rejected classified Epistle to the Hebrews(as it teaches about the priesthood -Hebrew 13:17), James( as it teaches that there is a reward for man's good works, James 2:24) , Jude, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, and the Revelation of John as disputed( The Book of Revelation It is not useful to understand Christ, it does not have the work of the Holy Spirit). The question is But why are these books still included in Protestant Bibles? Some Protestants argue that the Catholic Church established the canon at the Council of Trent. !!! So how did the Deuterocanon appear in Martin Luther's and other Protestant Bibles? Doesn't it sound strange...!!! Huldrch Zwingli published the Bible in German in 1531, Martin Luther in 1534(German), and John Calvin in 1560 (English)All these included 73 books. In AD -1611 the king James version of the Bible was released ... and it had 73 books. The 7 books of the Old Testament were included under the name Deuterocanon....Interestingly, many references were used from these for the New Testament. After AD-1885 the Deutero Canon books were removed from king James Bible... Gutenberg Bible www.gutenbergdigital.de/gudi/eframes/index.html Luther Bible 1535 archive.org/download/lutherbibel1535 Geneva Bible of 1560 Edition: archive.org/details/TheGenevaBible1560 King James Bible of 1611 Edition: www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1661-Bible/ God bless you brother❤❤❤

[@Ziiphyr]

This needs more upvotes votes 🙏🙏

[@Marc31977]

Good to know...

[@johnnymartinez7717]

Solid work

[@EHMD11111]

Protestants would have the doctrine of the Trinity even if they incoherently hold to an incomplete canon. There were Trinitarians solely on the basis of scripture before the Council of Nicaea. Just because a statement was more clearly defined to address the false teachings of heretics does not mean the doctrine developed on that day. This is not an argument for sola scriptura, which is false, but just highlighting the reality of what took place long ago.

[@jimdomingo6667]

Thank you Alex for standing up to the Catholic faith, god bless you brother, dominus vobiscum

[@kennethprather9633]

Remember it was the Jews that rejected the Apocrypha from the old testament first. Then it was tested verse by verse against the rest of the Bible. And found to not be inspired by God.

[@kellyedington8716]

Lol, you and Shameless Popery responding to the same video on the same day! Excellent!!! You gotta gives Joe's response a watch also! ✌️❤️‍🔥✝️

[@Bond-James-Bond-]

I gotta check that out!

[@SouthernFriedPap1st]

"Easily refuted" the Catholic position. LOL. Yeah, nothing like accessing derivations of 16th century novelties to shoot down something that's been around for 2,000 years. All that time he spent on Adobe just to come out looking incompetent.

[@jd3jefferson556]

I easily refute everyone I debate also, easily and thoroughly. Don't ask anyone, just trust me bro 😂

[@SouthernFriedPap1st]

@@jd3jefferson556 I’m an expert debatificationist.

[@TheHumbleConvert]

🤣🤣🤣 thanks for doing this video Alex! I’m Jessica 🙋🏻‍♀️🤣 you’re welcome for telling you what to do 😂

[@VoiceOfReason_]

@@TheHumbleConvert thank you, boss 😎

[@Sicarius089]

On indulgences, i highly recommend people chrcking out shamless popery's video "8 myths of martin luther and the reformation" Joe eviscerates prot arguments in that. He also did a video on rebutting this same prot video too. I appreciate you showing basically the full video and touching on points Joe didn't.

[@darrellperez1029]

His approval of indulgences is in his thesis.

[@Sicarius089]

@@darrellperez1029 i know, but there's so much info Joe Heschmeyer mentions that completely destroys the idea of the church being money grabbers or squeezing life savings from peasants, he also mentions that the poor could contribute and get an indulgence by praying if they lacked the finances.

[@kevinowski32]

I met a “Orthodox” and all he did was trying to prove me Catholics wrong, I proved him Papal Infallibility and Immaculate conception and he couldn’t disprove me, so he said that I had no proof or just responded with “no”. When he realized he was also attacking Orthodox with saying that we shouldn’t ask Saints to pray for us or that Mary wasn’t sinless, he told me he will become Lutheran, just so he could be against me. These Protestants really hate Gods Church.

[@Cklert]

Pray for that man. His heart is hard, and he's choosing his faith out of pure spite.

[@kevinowski32]

@@Cklert I did, 3 or 2 rosaries, I might still continue praying for souls to get into Gods Church

[@titusthegreat7434]

What scriptures do you recommend we use to support papal infallibility and immaculate conception when debating Protestants and Muslims

[@josh39684]

Brought my first icon it's coming tomorrow!

[@ParanormalTheology]

1:18 I’m so glad you’ve found a way to be both fruitful and edifying!!! God bless, brother!!!

[@josephhaddas5707]

PLEASE MAKE ALL 3 OF THOSE VIDEOS ESPECIALLY THE COUNCIL OF TRENT

[@CHRIST1AN979]

I was also going crazy watching this with you.. Gosh, repeated arguments that have been refuted more than a million times

[@jorjetofilau5101]

Thankyou brother I’m going to Catholic Church this Sunday

[@KiduElbat]

I hope i can download this one so that i can listen to it offline. I'm a baptist and i'm open to learning about the catholic faith. The Internet is not stable here in the philippines. 🙏 Blessings 😇

[@kreatillion1718]

Another canon argument that I’ve become interested in is how undecided it was all the way up to its solemn dogmatizing at Trent. While yes we have many regional councils and even ecumenical councils prior to Trent that corroborate the Catholic canon, we can still see disputes over certain books through history even with cardinal Cajetan in the 16th century. This indicates that the canon was not so big an issue for most Christians that the church had to define it, because they had the church to teach sound doctrine. If Sola Scriptura was the paradigm, we should expect to see the canonizing of scripture far earlier in history and far more solemnly, but we don’t.

[@kennethprather9633]

Remember it was the Jews that rejected the Apocrypha from the old testament first. Then it was tested verse by verse against the rest of the Bible. And found to not be inspired by God.

[@zachariahcraven2209]

From my understanding many of the Jews that held to other text other than the Masoretic Text tended to convert to Christianity a main reason they rejected other texts in the Tanakh.

[@MathAdam]

Déjà vu for fans of Shameless Popery

[@taramccreary8997]

What does the selling of indulgences have to do with how the bible was put together? His video just went completely anti-catholic bc its not a genuine video about the bible. You know what I think is so interesting? When we start having the debate with protestants about the bible or authority somehow we always start discussing Luther (whether its protestants or Catholics) as if Luther is their "authority". Seems to me whether protestants like or or not they look to Luther as an authority and if they don't they still have an authority at their church whether its a pastor, elders, a board, etc. So why are only Catholics badgered about authority? 🤔 I would LOVE videos over what each of the counsels taught.

[@josh39684]

When Protestants lose arguments they just start spewing all the objections they have. James White is a professional at this

[@kreatillion1718]

If I could be charitable as possible, he wanted to set up historical context for the reformation where the paradigm shifted to the 66 book canon (in his view). Of course one would hope there would be better reflection on the history after "months of research"

[@BensWorkshop]

@@Lone_BrotherinChrist You can refute Sola Scriptura from the Bible. Jesus did not believe in it. He says you must follow the teachings of the Pharisees (but not what they do because they are hypocrites) because they sit in the Seat of Moses. The Seat of Moses isn't in the Old Testament. Also Jesus went to the feast of Dedication of the temple which started in 2 Maccabees.

[@BensWorkshop]

@@Lone_BrotherinChrist Your post looks fine to me....

[@reginagiles6950]

Very informative! Can't wait for your follow-up videos!

[@prodigalsonposts]

Do both video ideas. Go over indulgences and Council of Trent. Do it. Also, W video Alex

[@jd3jefferson556]

Ok Palpatine 😂

[@prodigalsonposts]

@@jd3jefferson556 lol I didn't even realize

[@glencoelho8242]

This is good stuff. I am looking forward to those additional videos.

[@catholichad]

Thank you for this video! You are my favorite youtuber, and I watch you daily. God bless you, and as always, PRAY FOR ME, A SINNER.

[@LeavingThe99_]

I love it! Thank you 🙏 keep going! Viva Cristo Rey!

[@LeavingThe99_]

Yes! Let’s goooo! Do it!

[@rolandoinfante5494]

At this point should we even take protestant serious at all especially since he ends the video about running away. You would think he will be humble enough to get feedback.

[@willw1753]

Keep smacking down those lies! Good work!

[@enzoaugustine]

Id love videos on the counsel of Trent and indulgences

[@robertotapia8086]

Great video thank you @Voice of reason @Alex GOD Bless your family and you. Robert from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷

[@gregorymendoza9455]

Excellent video! I have a King James Bible with those 7 books in it.

[@nando1584]

I love your videos bro !! God bless you brother 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@SuatiaJeremy-jb7io]

God bless you Alex🙏

[@daneminor149]

Thank you!❤

[@shellbackbeau7021]

26:22 yes, I want you to do additional videos. Oh, on what topic? Doesn't matter the topic. I just love listening to your voice. #bass

[@KnowingInMercy]

That counsel of trent video is a good idea.

[@Joeya.2458]

Yes, please do a video on the Council of Trent!

[@fernandogarza6865]

Oh please do a video on going over the Council of Trent🙏. I'm looking forward to this. I'm also looking forward to you debunking the myths that Protestants make to argue with; keeping my fingers crossed for those two videos🤞. By the way, love your videos man, very inspirational, and very educational too. Keep up the good work and may God bless you🙏.

[@youngd9554]

Great video Alex your so smart

[@Brody_Tanner]

Wake up it’s another Voice of Reason video

[@MoCheeks2218]

Council of Trent vid would be very useful

[@shibaos]

Its mindboggling how blindly they still reject the deuterocanon without knowing why they do. Especially now with being able to search anything on the internet to cross reference so easily. I want a protestant's reaction to Wisdom 2:12-24, praying it would be along of lines of "Oh wow that is literally prophesying the whole gospel"

[@theystare]

great video

[@Ms.UnderstoodCatholic]

Yes do the council of Trent

[@tomasleiva5587]

Yes council of Trent. We want to learn our faith more and more

[@darrellperez1029]

That is correct. The reason for these three councils is because some used different gospels such as the Gospel of Mary, Gospel of Thomas, or Enoch. That is why those councils were established

[@shinta9377]

The easiest way to refute Protestants on this matter is to ask them, "how many archangels are there? Name at least 3 of them." They won't have a clue if they only use 66 books as the source. 🤭

[@CharlesWeber-vm6bf]

I'm a Protestant asking where can I get a Catholic Bible with these seven extra books? Thank you

[@aldoism1455]

Howdy, Revised Standard Version New American Bible Contemporary English Version & Good News Translation are all translations approved by the Catholic Church. You can pick up a copy in any catholic church or on any website selling those bibles. Hope that helps! 🙏

[@CharlesWeber-vm6bf]

@@aldoism1455 Thanks so much.

[@CharlesWeber-vm6bf]

@@aldoism1455 And very helpful again thanks.

[@Gio-ce8ob]

Do a video on both 95 thesis & council of Trent. People need the truth.

[@Migz2682]

I am not your boss as I am not a patreon user but I enjoy watching your videos, Particularly the ones in Spanish and I am trying to introduce my mother into the Byzantine, rite Or at least help her understand it, since I have been attending liturgy for the last 2 years. I attend both on Sundays but my mother doesn't understand that they are catholic under the pope as well as many other rites. Can you do a video in spanish about the other rites and the Liturgy and how it is still catholic and not Orthodox?

[@peterhenryzepeda3484]

Joe Heschmyer did a podcast on this today

[@jd3jefferson556]

I noticed that. What are the odds?

[@jamesmonahan9408]

yea the Aussie guy spews a lot of anti-catholic garbage. Yes, Marty suffered from usurpation & scrupulosity. Great video!

[@Jolo-oy4hd]

Good on you brother Alex love u from Ur Samoan Christian brother here 🇼🇸☦️🫡

[@jesusnieves5689]

We need the video of the council of Trent and 95 thesis

[@starlightHT]

At the time of Jesus there were already several sectors and disputes within Judaism. It soon becomes invalid to turn to Judaism to discard the books used by the Church Fathers. To justify the demonic Luther.

[@taramccreary8997]

I would love a video all about the Didichae. How old it is, who they think wrote it, How it is similar to Catholicism and the the catechism.

[@JayRedding12_12]

I wonder if he gets the LDS ad that I keep getting.

[@amo6396]

He uses Jan Huss to support his argument for indulgences. Huss was condemned by the Roman Catholic church and declared a heretic. On July 6th 1415 Huss was burned at the stake. Huss was the leader of the Bohemian reformation that started over a hundred years before Luther . His crimes included offering the cup to the laity, educating women, translating the Bible into Czech and preaching "faith alone".

[@MaranglikPeterTo-Rot]

❤️❤️

[@bobthebuildest6828]

did anyone else notice 25:41 the video VoR is responding to spelled council of trent as "cousel" minor spelling error? on the internet? its so over for you

[@amo6396]

Luther didn't remove books from the Bible . He died before the Council of Trent decided on the canon. The Canon is still open.

[@sirephraimgrayson202]

14:00 Most of Protestants I debated was saying that Synod/Council of Rome 382 is a fictional council, since the document are coming out later in Pseudo-Gelasian Decree (6th century)

[@danielhaas9469]

This is why the books of Maccabees should be ignored as inspired is because the author literally tells you he wrote it and it is coming from him. This is why this book should never be used to draw doctrine from like Purgatory. The Compiler’s Epilogue 38 If it is well told and to the point, that is what I myself desired; if it is poorly done and mediocre, that was the best I could do. 39 For just as it is harmful to drink wine alone or, again, to drink water alone, while wine already mixed with water is delicious and enhances one’s enjoyment, so also the style of the story delights the ears of those who read the work. And here will be the end.

[@fakepolymathy]

8:19 Marcion of Sinope was BORN in 85 AD, he created his canon in the mid-2nd century.

[@Moe-bb3bm]

Jude confirms what he said about the muratorian canon.

[@sirephraimgrayson202]

yea pls Alex, do Council of Trent

[@angoz8432]

Big yes, go through the council of trent

[@meghannunez8720]

Glory to Jesus Christ!! Can u plz make a video abt the Catholic charismatic movement? I grew up Catholic but I was raised also in the charismatic side of my parish. I’ve been hearing a lot of stuff lately that’s been making me question it, mainly bc I had my conversion thru one of those retreats. I just really need helpful information that will clarify things cuz it’s a hard time for me just finding this out and not knowing how to act. Plz pray for me to have light in my life bc as said in the Bible God is not the God of confusion. God bless 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@ModernLady]

Were indulgences an old fashion Patreon?

[@darrellperez1029]

Ask the 95 thesis that question. Its there where Luther supports it

[@SoldierOfGodOnly]

Can you go over the council of Trent and the Vatican 1 & 2

[@Church888]

"Lore"(Law)🤯

[@darrellperez1029]

Protestants should read thesis 81 and 71

[@amo6396]

Luther also condemned sexual immorality among the clergy and other clerical abuses like nepotism, usury, pluralism and simony

[@BensWorkshop]

But Tobit 4:9-11 says: 9 So you will be laying up a good treasure for yourself against the day of necessity. 10 For charity[a] delivers from death and keeps you from entering the darkness; 11 and for all who practice it charity is an excellent offering in the presence of the Most High. And Tobit 12:9 says: For almsgiving delivers from death, and it will purge away every sin. Those who perform deeds of charity[a] and of righteousness will have fulness of life; Did not Jesus encourage us to save up treasure in Heaven, in various ways including by helping those in need? Would love to see a video where the quotes of the Deuterocanninical books are quoted in the NT including the bits of Daniel that are missing from Protestant Bibles.

[@starlightHT]

Whoever invented Tanach was clearly anti-Christian and took the opportunity to completely redefine Judaism. If you use this book as an excuse to justify Luther, you will also become an anti-Christ.

[@darrellperez1029]

No, not really, because you also abide by parts of the tanakh

[@starlightHT]

@@darrellperez1029Talmud, which is part of the Tanakh, was inspired by the "Holy Spirit" Devil to write the tradition and become the new law that would change the one passed by Moses and invented a new Judaism invented by humans. which is nothing more than spreading hatred against Christians.

[@shadowknight7412]

With the context of the theses that Martin Luther says, you find that he was referencing the pope when he said, “He who speaks against the truth of apostolic pardons, let him be anathema and accursed!”. Thus, Martin Luther did not say that he accepted indulgences. If you do not believe me read the theses 68-76 and tell me where he really says that he accepted indulgences as an act of being forgiven, and where he really says that they will be accursed.

[@astoryafet1921]

Talk about jan jus please Hermano

[@vampyresgraveyard3307]

Was the Ethiopian bible canon or was it corrupt? i heard that the Ethiopian bible has more books and was created before the catholic church compiled the 73 books of the Holy bible.

[@TheLilragu]

i feel like i'm the only one reads apocrypha. the reason they got ditched was because of self sacrifice and putting on the armor of G-d. those 7 brothers that married the same girl got chopped up to pieces with their mom in the Maccabees. the Jews went Greek with Alexander the great. instead of trusting G-d and fighting Alexander, they jacked all the temple gold and made a huge golden shield got on their knees and bellies, crawled to the Romans, licked their toes and asked the Romans to get rid of the Greeks. when the war was over they had to pay taxes for the war. Give to CEASER what belongs to ceaser !!!

[@Kalmar917]

lol!! I already put your great video in this guys comment section. It was a very dumb video and it seems he googled everything without venting. The blind leading the blind. Also, I doubt his work mate debated him and if he did he does not know Catholicism.

[@davidjaramillo8282]

Blind leading the blind is nothing laugh about....we forget that alot of people are beinng mislead..therefore facing hell.....

[@Kalmar917]

@@davidjaramillo8282 It is something to laugh at as there is light in every religion but the fullness in truth is on the Jesus and the church. What is really laughable is when you ask a conservative Christian one simple question. Whenever they mention the church, or Bibles need to be in school I ask the following: Which church? Which Bible? I get different answers to the first one all the time and fewer answers to the second one. That is what is really laughable.

[@darrellperez1029]

Ahhh good ol Raymond "are you a sinna"

[@Neff90336]

🐐🐐🐐

[@mig6728]

What are your thoughts about Michael Kruger ideas?

[@duncanwashburn]

Circular reasoning: the Books of the Bible are inspired and so is the CC which tells us which ones are inspired, therefore the 66 + 7 are inspired.

[@WhiteWolf22303]

I'd also like to point out the fact that the Protestant guy fails to mention why he clings to the 66 book canon. If it's for the 4 points he mentioned, then those are horrible reasons. Plus, he never mentions by whose authority Martin Luther had to classify the Deuterocanon as the "Apocrypha", nor why we should accept his opinion on his canon of Scripture. The 4 points he mentioned aren't exactly an explanation on why we ought to accept the 66 book canon. Overall, great response vid on your part Alex

[@bradheffernan3351]

It's like listening to Rocky Balboa defending the Catholic church. lol

[@duncanwashburn]

Voice, you correctly stated that the extra 7 'books' are from the OT time. The OT is the Jewish Book and they have not added them. Why? Correction: the 66 Books of our Bible are FAR older thank 200 years. 37 of them are much older than 2000 years old. The 27 of the NT are over 1900 years.

[@alternativefactory7190]

Didn't joe heschmeyer do a video on this early today?

[@abdy9513]

Yeah, I think the same patreon member recommended it to both of them 😅

[@Spider-yq1ez]

Protestants should look up Lloyd de jongh if they want to know what kind of man Martin Luther actually was.

[@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm]

I heard there is no proof of the council of Rome , Decretum Gelasianum that refers to a prior “Decree of Damasus” and such decrees only come after Damasus dies?

[@darrellperez1029]

Heard lol.

[@Jesus-cx2eo]

Hi Alexander, one doubt. Yesterday I was listening to a debate between a Catholic Christian and a Muslim. The Muslim said that the history of the women rescued by Jesus in the Gospel of John(The women that the jews wanted to throw Stones), was actually introduced in the Gospel Centuries before the Gospel itself. Doing the research actually a lot of experts in history say the same thing that the Muslim said. The question is, How can we now that other stories are introduced on the Bible to make It more beautiful? Im a Catholic Christian and dont know How to respond to that argument. Thanks for listening. God bless

[@jditsfights256]

The history isn’t quite clear. However it’s a bit of a stretch to say the story was added. The most agreed upon theory is that the story was originally in the gospel of Luke. But the early Church feared that people would get the wrong idea and believe that God doesn’t take sin seriously so they removed it. But later changing their minds as they later came to believe it communicates something beautiful about Gods mercy, so they re-inserted it back into the gospel of John. Why didn’t they put it back into Luke? I don’t know, that’s up for debate. But to say the story was just added to make it seem nicer is a bit of a stretch.

[@jditsfights256]

However, even if it was inserted, it wouldn’t prove the event never happened or that it’s not divinely inspired. So even if it’s proven that the story was inserted, it wouldn’t be an issue at all for Christians. My Bible (NABRE) has the following footnote: “The story of the woman caught in adultery is a later insertion here, missing from all early Greek manuscripts. A Western text-type insertion, attested mainly in Old Latin translations, it is found in different places in different manuscripts: here, or after Jn 7:36 or at the end of this gospel, or after Lk 21:38, or at the end of that gospel. There are many non-Johannine features in the language, and there are also many doubtful readings within the passage. The style and motifs are similar to those of Luke, and it fits better with the general situation at the end of Lk 21, but it was probably inserted here because of the allusion to Jer 17:13 (cf. note on Jn 8:6) and the statement, "I do not judge anyone," in Jn 8:15. The Catholic Church accepts this passage as canonical scripture.“ The NABRE is a Bible that has been approved by the Catholic Church, so if they can comfortably say “it’s likely this passage was a later addition” without that being at all in anyway a threat to our faith, I don’t see why we can’t do so as well.

[@ketogenic_ron]

The problem that I struggle with is that if the Apocrypha is scripture, then it should not have any errors, just a couple of examples: 1: It condones the use of magic Tobit 6:5-7 2: There are historical errors a) Judith 1:5 incorrectly says that Nebuchadnezzar was the king of the Assyrians when he was the king of the Babylonians. b) Baruch 6:2 says the Jews would serve in Babylon for seven generations where Jeremiah 25:11 says it was for 70 years. “And this whole land shall be a desolation and a horror, and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years." There are other examples that I struggle to comprehend including money as an offering for the sins of the dead which is clearly not biblical. How can we say that something is inspired if there are errors, and we are not talking about grammatical errors 🧐 Dont think that I am not open to learning nor do I see you as my enemy, for God is your Father just as God is my Father, so we are brothers, and that is how I try to view my Catholic and Orthodox friends.

[@Theshadyassassin]

How do you know the rest of scripture doesn’t fall victim to similar areas? Atheists certainly think so. Depends on your definition of “inerrant” and what that means.

[@DenverDias]

Offering money as atonement for sins is prescribed in the book Exodus.

[@tabandken8562]

You think because Judith says to save fish liver and heart because it's medicine is some sort of witch craft? Have you read Numbers 5? That sounds way more like witchcraft! Do you not realize how nutritious fish liver is? Nutrition is medicine. I paste some nutrition info down below. The bible is full of contradictions. Just check it out in any atheist site. The bible IS written by men. Protestants act like the bible is written by God, it's not. Though, it is inspired. The bible even talks about money used charitably covers sin. Love covers sin. I'll post Scriptures later if you want. --- Fish liver is a rich source of many nutrients, including vitamins A and D, omega-3 fatty acids, and other minerals: Vitamin A A fat-soluble vitamin that helps support the immune system, growth, and strong bones, teeth, and eyes. A serving of fish liver contains about 2,000% of the daily value (DV) for vitamin A. Vitamin D Also known as the "sunshine vitamin", vitamin D is important for calcium absorption, reducing inflammation, and boosting mood. A serving of fish liver contains 1,250% of the DV for vitamin D. Fatty fish species have higher levels of vitamin D than partially fatty fish, and lean fish tend to store most of their vitamin D in their livers. Omega-3 fatty acids Studies have shown that people who eat fish regularly have a lower risk of heart disease, which may be linked to the omega-3s found in fish. Cod liver oil is a good source of omega-3s.

[@anthonydlcl4864]

Could you explain the magic in Tobit 6:5-7? Jesus used clay to heal a blind man, so I do not see how the organs of the fish could not be given healing powers by the Angel of God (from the Haydock Bible Commentary). Also, the Bible is not supposed to be a history book. It might have discrepancies but it does not fail to transmit Divine revelation, as the Catholic Church teaches.

[@tabandken8562]

You think because Judith says to save fish liver and heart because it's medicine is some sort of witch craft? Have you read Numbers 5? That sounds way more like witchcraft! Do you not realize how nutritious fish liver is? Nutrition is medicine. I paste some nutrition info down below. The bible is full of contradictions. Just check it out in any atheist site. The bible IS written by men. Protestants act like the bible is written by God, it's not. Though, it is inspired. The bible even talks about money used charitably covers sin. Love covers sin. I'll post Scriptures later if you want. --- Fish liver is a rich source of many nutrients, including vitamins A and D, omega-3 fatty acids, and other minerals: Vitamin A A fat-soluble vitamin that helps support the immune system, growth, and strong bones, teeth, and eyes. A serving of fish liver contains about 2,000% of the daily value (DV) for vitamin A. Vitamin D Also known as the "sunshine vitamin", vitamin D is important for calcium absorption, reducing inflammation, and boosting mood. A serving of fish liver contains 1,250% of the DV for vitamin D. Fatty fish species have higher levels of vitamin D than partially fatty fish, and lean fish tend to store most of their vitamin D in their livers. Omega-3 fatty acids Studies have shown that people who eat fish regularly have a lower risk of heart disease, which may be linked to the omega-3s found in fish. Cod liver oil is a good source of omega-3s.

[@SensumCommunem_]

Hello. I am Catholic and I always wondered why does Orthodox Bible have more books then Catholic Bible.

[@essafats5728]

Didnt the EO added their extra books after the schism of 1054?

[@srich7503]

Only some Orthodox Bibles have more. Not all.

[@TheLilragu]

hmmm, the selling of indulgences is wrong but, aren't they exactly like sin offerings and atonement sacrifices all over the old testament ???

[@ster1997]

I love every brother in Christ I don't care if he is catholic or protestant or anything else (not mormons :p ) as long as they believe in Jesus and repent from their sins thas all tha matters the churches were divided by humans not God in the reality there is only one church the church of Jesus Christ Hallelujah Amen?

[@sptomase]

I’m interested to see the video on indulgence and the 95 theses. There isn’t anything good on Luther’s 95 Theses from the Catholic perspective. Everything is from the Protestants saying how great he is and how bad The Church is.

[@CenterPorchNP]

The Geneva 1560 has 88.

[@amo6396]

Name one Roman Catholic who wrote a book included in the Bible?

[@adelbertleblanc1846]

By the will of Christ, the Catholic Church is, in fact, mistress of truth: its function is to authentically express and teach the Truth which is Christ [...] the disciple is bound towards Christ Master TO THE DUTY TO KNOW EVER MORE FULLY THE TRUTH THAT HE RECEIVED FROM HIM, to announce it faithfully and to defend it energetically while refraining from any means contrary to the Spirit of the Gospel. (Extract from the book “365 Days of Hope” by Cardinal Nguyen Van Thuan)

[@grandsonofman]

Not convinced brotha, when Catholics can interpret Daniel, than maybe I'll even consider it.

[@essafats5728]

Interpret according to ur finite brain and knowledge?

[@darrellperez1029]

You can stay where you're at. We're good.

[@Humbleservant0707]

Why aren't you mentioning the Dead Sea Scrolls? They prove the 7 books.

[@History_MadeMe_Catholic]

Another false position of the Protestant is to assume that because the deuterocanon is not found written in the Hebrew language, then it follows that it was therefore not among the ancient Jews… But you see, the Dead Sea Scrolls confirm Deuterocanon books in the Hebrew language and the later Masoretic Text “disappeared” them. Because the Jews did not have a list of books among them. They rejected their King. No central authority = lawlessness.