Is the Factory Five F9R Kit a CHEAP SUPERCAR?

[@QuickshiftCars]

UPDATE! Factory Five just made a new announcement about the F9R and their plans to release it in 2021: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5WcmqSKp8hgiZo

[@zAvAvAz]

The Factory Five F9 is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!! the Factory Five F9 is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sepg5084]

If it has the crash safety rating of a supercar then maybe it would be a cheap supercar.

[@Bozemanjustin]

What terrible horsepower numbers 580 cubic in 7,000 RPMs and they're only making 755 horsepower. That better be a factory motor with 100,000 mi warranty because that's the level of performance they're getting out of it They're moving 1.5 CFM to make a horsepower Even your standard backyard hot rod motor is 1.35 CFM And supercars are more like 1.18 CFM to make a horsepower So this car is not very efficient at making power from all that displacement However it's right on par with a factory motor. Hell look at the old 1980s trans ams... They had to move 1.8 CFM to make a horsepower but there again those were smog cars this is a freaking race car

[@donaldparlettjr3295]

I'm still a 65 Coupe fan. It's a timeless shape just like the Superformance GT 40. A shape that's so beautiful.

[@daltonbedore8396]

well yea they make replicas of it because people love it

[@rowanwills9698]

This looks like a perfect candidate for Rob Dahms 6 rotor

[@skitzoid8202]

Wow it really is

[@rowanwills9698]

@Dave Pawson define finished ;)

[@vistuscaine]

Yeah, and 10 years later he still won't have it finished!!

[@rowanwills9698]

@@vistuscaine I mean, it runs and drives now, all that's left to do is finish tuning it and do the bodywork and interior

[@rowanwills9698]

@Dave Pawson jokes aside I believe Rob said the idea was to be working on the C8 and 6 rotor projects while the 4 rotor is at a standstill whether it be away for bodywork or waiting on parts in order to fill in the gaps and not just be sitting idle

[@infinitcreative7309]

R.I.P left knee 😂😂😂

[@devilsadvocate269]

My knee looked like this just thinking about it..😱

[@ASS_ASSASSIN696]

right knee : you bro you ok? left knee :....,.

[@QuickshiftCars]

I had a cushion on the ground off-camera 😉

[@Amicodablack]

Quickshift Reviews ya stuck in there though

[@akandoldbcornothing1007]

No chill 🤣🤣🤣 ..the internet 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@BladedAngel]

NOW THIS, will captivate the younger enthusiasts! And by the looks of it, it seems Front Engine! I wouldn't have my engine anywhere else! (Mostly for maintenance reasons) The one thing that stopped me from buying a GTM is that it was too 80-90s racecar aesthetic. I still think it's pretty, but I never could vibe with it's design as it felt "before my time" I definitely vibe with this design. I hope the orders for this kit become available a few years from now.

[@AlexanderVonMalachi]

GTM looks classy and maybe even timeless, like an old-ish Jag or Aston.

[@matthewlueder2656]

Factory Five's owner routinely trashes younger people in his youtube channel so I don't know if that is what he was going for

[@imperatorxi]

BUT BLADED HOW'S THE MIATA?

[@leviathanthetallone8299]

I feel the gtm is more like the c6 then a Aston more aggressive then fancy

[@shaungovind8698]

@@imperatorxi the miata is always the answer

[@ghostygsurbobaboi5805]

I keep hearing "frent" when he says "front". Just me?

[@ideaynojodas]

Totally!

[@Celestias]

I came to write that. :)

[@rafaelmoreno3243]

You really aren't alone

[@rafaelmoreno3243]

He's probably from Canada

[@CountryDancingMan]

@@rafaelmoreno3243 what you talking a boot?

[@601performance5]

I have a feeling a viper engine would be a good match for those that can’t afford the v12 it has at sema.

[@TheScottyp1]

viper engine cost lambo money to make really fast

[@mattq8988]

@Frank L LOL Good one. Although that's a 14 cylinder, the car can only handle a 12.

[@mikesmith1290]

If I wanted a car to sound like a tractor, I'd get a tractor

[@mitchhifi9192]

@Adam West the GTM is based off an Ls7 so yeah probably

[@blaisepalermo1743]

My brother drove 2 cobras every sunny day for 20 years...

[@aaronyoung6937]

This is what a front engine Lamborghini would look like and I love it !!

[@nkd75]

looks more like an Aston Martin Vulcan to me ...

[@carbonfiber8071]

@@nkd75 Looks like a BAD attempt at an Aston Martin Vulcan to me...

[@undercoverasiant696]

Don't you mean "frent" engined?

[@dwinguzman2759]

I thought it was an aston martin vulcan

[@Plan_Br]

looks like one !

[@daltonbedore8396]

clearly thats what they are going for. the aston is way, way more refined however

[@Realtime1501]

Ecoboost V6 might be a good option as well 600hp with that better weight balance will be great

[@shark92651]

That is the coolest front-engine, mid-engine exotic track weapon I have ever seen.

[@melvincoleman8008]

I'm so pleased to hear that Factory 5 finally realized that some of their cars are getting a bit dated. The Cobra is a cool car, but there are just too many of them out there. No matter how well you build one, it's just ONE MORE COBRA.

[@QuickshiftCars]

There's definitely a lot of Cobras out there, I agree it's cool to see the brand expanding to new designs

[@BradThePitts]

Yes, Cobras are just as popular as Toyota Corollas where I live. Sick of seeing them. Even the receptionist at my office has one. Outdated design. Stupid idea in the first place.

[@melvincoleman8008]

@@BradThePitts Yes, I agree with you 210%.

[@cantho11]

Def a winning design. I dig it. But if I can have one car in this world I would choose fully build 4wd AC Cobra with plush interior.

[@mikesmith1290]

Yep, they can be an exact duplicate of the real deal, but if Shelby himself didn't wrench on it, it's just not the same.

[@1LongTallTexan]

The GTM....is mid-engine for a reason. Race a car and you'll know why! It's balanced. Balance isn't just an old 1980's to 90's thing, it's important. Supercar's aren't super that won't take a corner fast! Balance plays that really important part even today!

[@philrodrigues9270]

Factory five is just 20 minutes away I've been to the factory many times they build amazing cars build with quality parts chassis suspension components and body's can't beat the cost of there kits 👍

[@demogorilla]

Stop bothering them and buy something Phil.

[@dalelallred]

A 302 and a 5L are the same displacement!

[@Toolingabout]

“A small block ford 302 all the way to a massive 5.0L coyote” lol my dear boy 302ci=5.0L

[@nssherlock4547]

W x H x L dimensions, coyotes are a rather large engine.

[@Toolingabout]

Indeed, dual overhead cams tend to add a lot to the package size of an engine but generally speaking engines are measured by displacement. When someone identifies engines by their displacement and says “all the way up to” no one would assume he is referencing package size.

[@PureCountryof91]

The 302 is 19" wide, 22" long, and 23" tall. Coyote is 29" wide, 25" long, and 24" tall... It's a fair bit bigger buddy.

[@taylorgtrotter]

Tooling About any SBF will fit, and FYI they have stroker cranks for coyotes now so you can build up to 340” coyote motors

[@chrishamilton2559]

Have you seen a coyote? About the same dimensions as a hemi. Which would you rather have?

[@lucky7even622]

Ooohhh I just found you, I'm subbing. You've got a bright future!

[@rogerramjet8964]

37.3/4 miles. (TT America.) 20 minutes or under. Once did 20 miles in 9 minutes in a ford Fiesta XR2 at 121 m.p.h .(motorway).

[@VirginiaRican]

That's a beautiful car. Looks better than some current production models.

[@dxd48c]

what a breathtaking design. Thanks for the heads up.

[@cronopoly344]

No doubt it initially looks like a C6-C7 Vette reskin Body kit. Don't lie we all see it. I would have loved to see that styling as True mid engine though. Hard not to get a C8 Vette for the same cost though.

[@carbonfiber8071]

It's like apples and oranges. The C8 is a production car with all the nannies and weight that come along with that. This is a tube chassis race car with a license plate. They are very different animals. You cannot get a true manual trans in a Corvette anymore.

[@Made_In_Heavenn]

Looks like mazda gt3 concept

[@macmaven5037]

Good job with the video. It's been circulating on the FFR forums.

[@glenstreamer5292]

Very informative detailed video. Cheers!

[@levienns1796]

Well done, great job with the video! Subscribed

[@jajupa78]

Looks like a gto, a C8, a mustang, and a viper all meshed together. Luv it!

[@crooklyneny]

Love your channel you always make great videos 🎯

[@Henessy-d2w]

I want all of the kit cars vaydor Vallara cobra everything

[@devilsadvocate269]

I'm right with you on that.

[@smoakybeans9268]

For anyone curious the v12 they are using is an LSV12 made by an Australian company capable of 1000hp NA, also can cost anywhere between 30-65k

[@velocitymg]

Preston Aycock - Ford Barra v8, a lot cheaper and can be tuned to well over a 1000hp

[@j.richardmoore5865]

Thanks for the heads up. Can't afford it, but still can dream lol

[@rogerramjet8964]

Go to racetrack.job done.5 on em.

[@joelstatosky1817]

The thing I like the most of the car being front engine is that if you put a smaller engine the weight goes more to the center than when with a mid engine the weight moves forward .

[@azliaziz4737]

Perfect candidate for ELECTRIC Super Car❗️ 👍👍👍

[@daviejay5326]

I'd put a rotary in it... unique in design and sound, extreme light weight, fuel economy isnt such a problem on a car like that, car is light weight which suits the low torque of a rotary engine Seems a perfect application for the engine we all have shortlisted when the question of an engine swap comes up

[@shazamkablam1420]

This car remind me of Aston Martin Vulcan.🤔

[@thienphunguyen5812]

same

[@Amicodablack]

This is a beautiful car..definitely think you’d see alot of these on the road..I’ve never seen a factory five with any of the big dodge engines yet..factory five demon maybe..this would be the car

[@TrueSkoolMusic]

nice work! - glad to hear they doing something new

[@MegaJcoulter]

Your presentation was phenomenal..... organized and well crafted. You will be on TV one day.

[@undercoverasiant696]

It looks like he's comfortable in frent of the camera

[@jwilliams703]

Im still in love with the 818c. but this looks nice as well.

[@j.santiago7022]

I just scanned your content. RE and 944 content- Subscribed! 🔥

[@outperformancelife3145]

Im really hoping they keep the GTM.though. I love the GTM, Daytona Coupe and this model a lot. The Superlite SLC is great. But if They want to remain competitive, pricing is the biggest issue at hand. Modern does not mean better and remember that the GT40 was and is one of the best speedsters out there and its Superformance that has the license to make the replicas. Kind of wonder whose is better qaulity with affordability for the middle man like me. I hope Factory Five, Superlite, Superformace, RCR and other budget super car builders watch and read these comments. I really hope they keep the GTM, Daytona Coupe models all on board and just add these as more model options.

[@Christophertruck]

It takes design from the Aston Martin Vulcan

[@SergePupko]

And lamborghini

[@Christophertruck]

@@SergePupko where do you see Lamborghini in the body?

[@taylorgtrotter]

Modern 65’ Daytona coupe...

[@Made_In_Heavenn]

Mazda gt3 concept

[@Christophertruck]

@Jordan Huang yeah the headlights look crazy

[@mikegt92]

bruh.... I can't take u seriously when you are standing next to an r3

[@haram296]

lmao fr

[@ivanplacido6996]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@carbonfiber8071]

You talk bad about the C5 corvette suspension but it's still world class when set up right. Coilovers, etc. The GTM pulled 1.09 g's on STREET TIRES.

[@NischGTM]

The V12 wasn't meant to be the intended powerplant, but rather a Ford V8 is what they are aiming for.

[@crazyorwhat]

2012: 750 horsepower, that's a lot. 2020: 750 horsepower, that's it!

[@kr6248]

No, 750 hp is definitely still a lot. Even if there are a lot of cars with that many or more hp, 750 is a lot

[@johnnyd687]

I absolutely love the GTM. However, the new F9R front engine appears more desirable as sourcing a desirable 'built ' transaxle can be tedious. Furthermore, engine options are endless with a front engine.

[@allywilkeforsenate]

When you do find a transaxle they cost 10 grand or more.

[@carbonfiber8071]

@@allywilkeforsenate I bought a G96.01 from a Carrera 2 for $1200.

[@allywilkeforsenate]

@@carbonfiber8071 will that handle an LS motor at 800 hp?

[@carbonfiber8071]

@@allywilkeforsenate In a 2500lb. car? ALL DAY. Look at Renegade swaps, they run 700hp plus in a 3000 plus pound car.

[@carbonfiber8071]

@@allywilkeforsenate If you put 800 in a 2500lb. car like this, you're stupid anyway.

[@krpinckney]

Well. Another option. This "R" race/concept version is made of Carbon Fiber, but the street version could be produced in standard fiberglass. This would obviously cut down the costs. (I imagine someone already noted this)

[@davidcanady7935]

Of course the 5.0 is massive. This is due in part to the dual overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder so that it can produce similar power numbers as the smaller, lighter, more affordable, and ubiquitous LS engines. And suddenly millions of blue oval fans became massively butthurt.

[@AcEwusie]

Looks like a Lamborghini, Ferrari and Aston Martin all in one. Very nice

[@yobby00f98]

I love the casual Yamaha r3 with an m4 slip on in the background

[@marklengal9990]

I’m waiting patiently for this kit to be released

[@LunringNassar]

Oddly reminds me of the AM Vulcan, Looks great tho.

[@lj6278]

Like the looks of the GTM Better.

[@porscheguy09]

Good work on editing and everything but the script might need some extra auditing before recording. The Small Block Ford 302 and “Massive 5.0 liter” are both a 302. Kind of. The original pushrod Ford 302 was actually 4,942cc or 301.6 cu inches and the new modular DOHC 5.0 liter Coyote V8 is 4,951cc or 302.1 cu inches prior to the 2018 model year when the engine had it’s cylinder bore size increased from 92.2mm to 93mm or 3.63” to 3.66” which increased displacement from 302 to 307 cu inches. which is still a 5.0 liter. One difference between the old pushrod V8 and the new modular V8 is the width of the engine at the heads. The modular engine is several inches wider than the pushrod V8.

[@justinbelshe]

They should offer all models in carbon fiber.

[@Tclans]

Looks like a modern day pantera. Very likeable!

[@Gargamoth]

The interior is looking good.

[@craigeaves7254]

It really looks like a Mustang to tell you the truth !!!!! I just asked my coworker and that's the first thing he said !!!!! BUT WE LOVE IT !!!!!

[@Cre8Lounge]

It was designed by former Mustang designer Phil Frank

[@andrewbolivar3040]

Soooo much better than the 818. I couldn’t wrap my mind around that one. It was their truly original design but it was just a bit off in so many places and didn’t look the part of a gorgeous kit car. I love the 65 coupe, Cobra roadsters, and GTM supercar but this is vastly approaching as a new favorite.

[@Midwestwrench7112]

Why is that bike in the shot, is it his and he just wants to show it off??? Love how he says everything from a 302 to a massive 5.0L considering 302 is a 5.0 L

[@JustaPilot1]

You badly misquoted. 302 to a 5.0 "COYOTE". Yes, the displacement is the same but they are vastly different engines.

[@Midwestwrench7112]

@@JustaPilot1 well aware of that but he refers to the sizes, calling it massive. Powerful or modern would have been more fitting

[@01firstlast]

anton herres No he’s right when the old 302 pushrod motors are fit into a physical small box, a dual overhead cam Coyote motor needs vastly more width in the head area.

[@DavidJSmith-hl6kb]

The Original Factory 5 GTM reminded me of a Mash-Up of a FORD GT and a Ferrari Supercar!...As a FORD Guy, I Didn't like the Idea that its Chassis was based on a Corvette Drivetrain and Engine! : ( But, I like the F9R/F9, Especially since it accommodates a more Variety of Engine/Trans Choices! As a FORD Guy, I would like to use a 2020 Shelby GT500 Drivetrain with the 760HP 5.2L Shelby S/C Engine and 7sp DCT or a 2021 New FORD MACH 1 Drivetrain with the 480HP 5.0 Coyote N/A Engine and the 10R80 10sp Auto Trans with Paddle Shift or a 2018+ FORD Mustang GT with the 460HP 5.0L Coyote N/A engine with the 10R80 10sp Paddle Shift Auto Trans!...I am Just Saying!...God Bless America! 😇 BTW!...I wonder if a Whipple S/C would fit under the Carbon Hood?

[@DavidJSmith-hl6kb]

@@jonathanstevenson8948...Yes!... You are Correct!...It's the Edelbrock Victor Jr. Supercharged Small Block Ford 5.0L Coyote Crate Engine with Tuner rated at 785HP/660 ft-lbs. of Torque using 93 octane!...Edelbrock Part # 46890 for $29,221.95! Also, Nelson Racing Engines (NRE) offers a 427/428 Injected & Intercooled Twin Turbo Daily Driver Series for an additional $5000 or $35,000!...It puts out 1300HP/1300 TQ using Race Gas and 1000HP/1030 TQ using pump gas!...I am Just Saying!...God Bless America! 😇

[@markacarbone]

Great post. Thanks for sharing.

[@jtuttle11]

They try to sound really smart, BUT. The 5.0 liter is around 302 cubic inches. The formula was created back in the '70s for the TransAm racing series and every manufacturer had an engine in that range. Chevy had the 302, Dodge had the 305 and ford had the 302 (which was actually smaller than 302 inches)

[@kevinbutler9786]

Hopefully the F9 is fiberglass. Make an f9R for serious, rich track guys and then make an F9 that I can buy. Please. Those renders are sick.

[@bezaproductions8106]

Excellent presentation my man👌🤘

[@QuickshiftCars]

Thank you! 😁✌

[@tengu190]

Check out Superlite and DDR as well.

[@thelegoboi3666]

I'm gonna buy that! I have around $400,000 USD in savings in my bank account. Don't even ask how.

[@mrmike8490]

👊

[@fredbecker607]

Whatever you do, don't keep that kind of money in a bank account. It isn't even insured if in one bank.

[@BIGGELATO]

Hope they make it, ill get a few of them, do they have a sound system? maybe carplay would be nice

[@isaacnirmal9590]

My man hit that tim Tebow pose the whole time

[@ryanspell]

A small block Ford 305 is a 5.0. So only one engine fits i guess? And yes I know there are old 302s and the new 5.0 but it's the same displacement i know the heads are bigger in the new engine because it's dohc but still the block is similar.

[@LOUCABRASI]

What the new supra should have looked like

[@godzilla1392]

Facts 😔

[@MuShinnen]

It shares none of the design language of a supra. Tf This is more inspired by the dodge viper, and other american designed cars. The new supra should have looked like a slightly updated Mk. IV.

[@LOUCABRASI]

@@MuShinnen sorry, Mr expert, for expressing my opinion....TF!!

[@MuShinnen]

@@LOUCABRASI Nobody said you couldn't express your opinion. Lol I just pointed out that this design has nothing in common with a Supra.

[@LOUCABRASI]

@@MuShinnen gotcha. No problem

[@itsokswallow]

I like the way you give input and omit your personal opinion and just give good solid information I like your choice of topics and the kind of cars you choose I am new To your channel I'm going to delete all the other a car ppl. like doug and hoov and dedicate you as my info channel thank you

[@dgentis]

I think I’ll just order a C8.

[@m0ther_bra1ned12]

Reminds me a little of the Vulcan. Pretty sweet for a kit car.

[@starvalkyrie]

I don't get how "more room" is a good reason to move the engine up front.... when we're talking about a bespoke car. They could have fit the v12 in the back... Like right on the heels of the corvette finally going MR with it's layout specifically to escape the limit they hit with putting down power on the old layout.. this is a really awkward move. Like the #1 question for everyone looking at this is going to be "but what if Instead I modified a C8?"

[@SeanODea25]

The headlights remind me of the Kamata Fiera from Ridge Racer

[@HydeMyJekyll]

I don't understand why @4:35 you say "everything from a small block Ford 302 all the way up to a massive 5.0L Coyote." You know those are the same displacement, right?

[@MacPro8CoreMan]

Where is that v12 sourced from?

[@ShannonSouthAfrica]

Isnt an LS a V8?

[@vaelen19]

That moment when you realize that the small block 302 is the exact same displacement as that "MASSIVE!" coyote...lol.

[@n2loudcars]

If they have motor mount options for Hellphant, LT5, LS9, LS7.... that would be cool.

[@demogorilla]

All you have to do is ask and they make

[@n2loudcars]

@@demogorilla Ok. Didn't know they custom any motor mounts. I had seen on their other cars you choose a motor option.

[@johnnyd687]

Yes, the Factory Five f9r with a 2018 Jeep Trackhawk AWD drive train. You can easily get 1000 hp from the stock 707hp Hellcat engine and the Trackhawk drive train can take it...happily. A stock 5400lb Trackhawk will do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. So, a 2400Ib Factory Five f9r with 1,000hp and AWD. Beast Mode.

[@carbonfiber8071]

Won't work. You'd have to design the chassis around an AWD platform from the start

[@christophermichael.w.7577]

One trend that bothers me is people using the Ferrari Enzo as a base for another car. They are just too rare and desirable for people to be destroying them. The LS engine is used because they are relatively affordable and easy to maintain. I like some of the lit cars that use them.

[@dannylee5588]

The GTM will never be built for 50 Grand. He said the car needs a few bits and pieces in addition to an engine from a Corvette. You failed to mention the $20,000 transaxle from a Porsche. Which are getting harder and harder to find. To do a good job on one of these cars going to cost you somewhere between 70 and $90,000 once it's completely sorted. And the body takes an extraordinary long time to get it to fit correctly. Just in case anybody thinking about buying one now you know!

[@patrickmckeever2378]

Need a twin turbo model and a hemi would be so much nicer, a touch bigger might be a good move for a bigger engine.

[@patrickmckeever2378]

@Brad Viviviyal Needs a straight line version to, No Prep is a Huge thing these days, Weight matters, it has more Potential!

[@TheSarcasticEngineer]

Frent?! In-frent of the passengers 👌

[@Marrda]

Not a fan of the Acura looking headlights. Hopefully they come up with better front and rear lights

[@ERFAN_ZEX6]

ITS BEAUTIFUL CAR WE NEED THIS IN FORZA & ASPHALT ❤❤

[@richiesworld1]

I wonder how these cars fair in a crash 🤔

[@axlapointe]

Who else enjoyed hearing him say "front"?

[@wilsonnaula9313]

U mean the “frant” 😂

[@QuickshiftCars]

I think the best pronunciation is "frantend" 😅

[@IAmKXNGcharles]

came to the comments just for this

[@rpracingproducts]

SEMA was canceled last week so look for an independent release

[@AH-mj1rd]

I wonder if it will fit a 5000hp turbo shaft engine

[@Kr91122]

Where did u find that the body is carbon fibre it doesn't even say that on the page

[@T7R87]

I love the Vex and the 86

[@2HRenovation]

Factory Five looking good now.

[@allywilkeforsenate]

Stilll no kit for Beale in their website.

[@zorrbock]

Cool looking car but man is that front end just a busy looking mess. Until... you get to the back end. The backend looks like the path of destruction after a tornado goes through. What a mess.

[@zorrbock]

@Tropic Lightning Naw. But I thought I'd be uniquely bold/brave by dropping in and leaving my completely unsolicited and irrelevant opinion on the design choices. Because...internet. lol

[@carbonfiber8071]

@Tropic Lightning he's right

[@rajanrairealty8979]

v12 is nice. no airbags?

[@ArmaAutomotive]

Keep in mind they don’t sell the v12 and it’s 60k usd on its own.

[@17yrsofcollege]

“Affordable”

[@ArmaAutomotive]

Alan O most people will probably use an ls or Ford v8 is my guess.

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

The v12 ls..... hmmmmmm options options. Still superlite slc is race proven. I'd get the cobra from them though.

[@dave5833]

Ok how do you license and insure on of these monsters?? Thanks

[@ferdjanklow3566]

What is "infamous" about a F5 Cobra kit?

[@kennethroth6757]

How does the smog laws work if the car is new since u cant modify the engine for more power ie turbos

[@carbonfiber8071]

Kit cars are smog exempt low production vehicles. It doesn't come with a driveline at all. You chose it yourself.