Is the Government HIDING ALIENS?! Body Language Analyst Reacts to U.S. Congress UFO/UAP Hearing!

During a hearing last week in the U.S.A. three witnesses came forward sharing their experiences and knowledge of the existence of UAPs (UFOs) on this planet. But what do their body language, facial expressions and word choice reveal? Is the government hiding aliens? Find out now!
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03:31 WItnesses Nonverbal Communication
10:43 Did They Really See Aliens?
22:55 Is The Government Hiding the Truth?
32:41 How Much Does He Really Know?
38:08 Are the Aliens Dangerous?
44:37 This Does Not Make Sense!
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[@TheBehavioralArts]

Hey Everyone! Hope you are enjoying this week's video. Just wanted to add a few additional thoughts. 1) I touched on the kind and accepting attitude that congress had towards these 3 witnesses and I just want to add that I think it's very nice. The bottom line is, we can't know exactly what is happening as of now, but if these three men are risking their reputations and relationships to speak up because they believe they are doing the right thing, I think that's very respectable. Even if the things they believe may not be empirically 100% true, the fact that they believe it is and want to bring it to light despite knowing they are going to take a lot of heat is a noble thing to do. I know that analysis sometimes seems very critical. The truth is if this was 3 people talking about how aliens DON'T exist, I would be as critical, I have to dig into every inconsistency I see, it's the nature of what I do. I hope nobody misinterprets my analysis for judgement, I actually think that if this leads to more open discussions between congress and the intelligence community, this was a very brave thing they did. 2) Some early viewers may notice a scene was cut from the video. I feel I didn't express myself well in the video and it was causing confusion so I wanted to clarify here. At the end of the hearing Mr. Graves and Mr. Fravor are asked if the situation with the UAPs got hostile, would they be able to defend themselves, they said no. I said "they can't possibly know that" because Mr. Graves experience seems to be mostly on radars and video, which wouldn't be enough to know anything about the vessels and Mr. Fravor saw it for a quick second and then it was gone. Allow me to clarify. Mr. Fravor, with his extensive experience in aviation could have seen enough to know that this thing is advanced as heck, he even saw it move really fast and maneuver in very impressive ways. As such, he can reasonably assume that this thing is advanced and far superior and would therefore win a hostile encounter. HOWEVER, my simple point was that, later in the hearing, Mr.Fravor highly discourages making assumptions and exaggerations, he says one has to stick to the facts, and the fact of the matter is; he simply can't know for a fact that just because this thing moves fast, it also has advanced weaponry or defense. What if this thing comes from a planet that figured out speed but doesn't even know what fighting or war is. To assume it can win in a fight is to make way too many assumptions based on very little intel. If I didn't know what a rabbit was, then i saw this little thing running at incredible speeds, it would be wrong to assume it will beat me in a fight. Speed and offensive ability are not necessarily correlated. Had he said "based on how advanced this thing seemed, I think that's a safe assumption" would have been one thing but to just say "no" for someone who preaches sticking to the facts, I felt was a bit of a jump. Assumptions are like nails on a chalkboard to a behavioral analyst, when we assume, we miss important details. So, I agree that it's a safe assumption, but an assumption nonetheless. Hope that makes sense.

[@briandmadden8545]

One thing you failed to mention.: They were all under oath and Grusch, who still has an active security clearance, risks jail if he lied…

[@thomasrios3913]

@@briandmadden8545lol what? Is your comment a joke? I’m so confused. 2:40. He went on for a whole minute about how they’re under oath and if they’re lying they’ll go to jail. And that’s not even the only time he mentioned that. You repeated what he said almost word for word claiming he didn’t say it 😂 😂. How are people like this?

[@deansparks8085]

I believe these three know more than they say, to protect themselves to some extent. But thats why it was confusing them saying onething then another. Thats what tells me they're practicing alittle cya, but at the same time, admitting.

[@I_have_Aquestion]

Speed is a defense. Maneuverability is a defense. Did you attempt to run after and catch the rabbit? With it’s observed speed and maneuverability you have to realize that you can’t catch it. Now, if asked, “Can we defeat it?” (The rabbit) You know that we can. You understand that the power of our technology can defeat a rabbit. If asked “Can we defeat it?” (The UAP) Given the description of it’s capabilities and the knowledge of our capabilities and weapon systems, the answer is no. Furthermore, I think it is safe to assume that if they can move their own ship at such speed and with such maneuverability that they can also move a projectile in the same way…or better. We don’t have anything to counter such a thing.

[@I_have_Aquestion]

@@briandmadden8545Or if he says too much publicly. He is in a very risky position.

[@dark40010]

To explain - the inconsistency with fravor not receiving negative treatment vs Grusch is because 1. Tic tac incident was in 2004… 2. Fravor was silent until someone else released the information and he was convinced to speak out. He did what they would want Grusch on the other hand investigated what is presumably a secret government program and is seeking to out them for illegal activity so the difference in treatment should be fairly obvious lol

[@mitymi]

Also, one works in the intelligence world... the other just Navy operations.

[@davidlumsden4261]

I agree with both above comments

[@philmccracken2012]

That is a great explanation!

[@bettina4374]

Also fravor comes from the navy , not the same as Grusch

[@williambuchanan77]

You've got to admit this takes balls. To speak out like this is playing with fire, considering the lengths these people will go to in order to hush it up. Hopefully we'll be seeing more hearings like this.

[@firemarshallbill7983]

They’re all govt plants…this is ALL planned

[@nomadscavenger]

Oh, we will w/a government shill to prop up the actual witnesses, ironically diminishing the actual truth-tellers' credibility and the only ones who have witnessed first hand these UAP's.

[@n0tsofam0us14]

Unless it's planned by the gov-

[@williambuchanan77]

@@n0tsofam0us14 or the aliens themselves. If I'm right things are going to unfold in an orderly manner. We're probably being prepped for disclosure.

[@skruffs1537]

@@n0tsofam0us14 for what reason ?

[@wessexdigital97]

The reason Grusch is often unprepared to answer many questions, is because sat directly behind him is his legal advisor whispering 'no' to steer him away from potential incriminating answers. One attendee could hear this.

[@romulodelmendo8361]

Yes, I heard that from Corbell, I think.

[@karenking5357]

I agree

[@magnus33john]

That would explain part but not most of the problem and the best lies have a grain of truth in them Nearly all of what is being said is hearsay as he admits he never seen a ufo or alien. Are their aliens almost certainly are they visiting all the time very likely not and there some very obvious reasons why. Any species capable of travelling the distances involved would not be shot down by what we have and may barely even notice us any more then we would notice a ant. There also the little matter that in the time we existed our signals have barely 32 light years which is utterly tiny compared to the size of the universe. Its also fun n that with all the camera on phones out there now all we get is grainy pictures or video every time.

[@ATFstein]

He also has autism so you can’t look at him the same way as a neurotypical person

[@MichaelMcCabe-eb2bo]

Corbel is annoying

[@Libby9968]

Thank you Spidey for covering the neurodivergent issue in this video too. It’s slightly soul destroying when I see comments and questions (usually around liars and criminals) asking if that person has ASD/ADHD/brain injury etc. It’s heartbreaking to encounter those assumptions repeatedly and I’m so grateful that you pointed out the most important thing; BASELINE. Every human has one, and I love that you emphasise this when it comes up❤️❤️❤️

[@Themostdef100]

“Soul destroying”?? Really🥴 get a grip

[@Terrelli9]

What was wrong with calling objects that fly and are unidentified Unidentified Flying Objects??? Whoever’s in charge of constantly renaming things needs to be put in charge of something more useful.

[@kevinhank17]

Because they are not necessarily objects, aerial phenomena is more appropriate for describing the wide range of things being seen. Ufo is specific to objects, experts like to be specific, it's important. Like how Pluto was reclassified, because it did not specifically fit a definition.

[@dom85ross]

I think it was a sort of rebranding because there’s a certain stigma attached to the name UFO, but UAV sounds modern and is in the age where it is being taken seriously

[@iffyangel3380]

IMO, Because the were never "unidentified" ... they knew all along what they were and they were not all flying objects. Many were submersible.

[@drewletchworth9895]

Both terms are useful and accepted.

[@christopherdaffron8115]

Well saying aliens from outer space is so passe. You instead now use the term " non-human biologics".

[@bryanbates4285]

David Fravor seems not to have been targetted, according to his own testimony, but it may be important to note that he kept quiet about the incident for years because of the stigma associated with it. Kevin Day, the chief radar officer on the USS Nimitz during that incident, had a very different experience and seems haunted by the Navy's response to his story.

[@AndreaCrisp]

Bingo! A very different experience indeed. The only reason he's talking about any of it is because it was previously declassified. Otherwise he would likely never had said anything publicly.

[@VA_MamaBear]

Right. It sounds like he followed proper procedure, and awaited clearance to speak out. Graves may be experiencing backlash because he isn’t authorized to speak about this.

[@mikefuller363]

learn to reason please.

[@markra4044]

It's unfortunate the dichotomy of the two reactions in their commands and it illustrates just how the public is likely to be bamboozled, left confused, and frustrated by a historic event that probably can't see the light of truth.

[@Lmapmpmfa]

Based on what you said about Fravor’s response to how he was treated, I think based on his calm demeanor-he is leaning further back in his chair, his hands are neatly clasped in front of him on the desk, and he is smiling-that he has realized he is actually the level head and the fully reliable witness of the three. He is very comfortable with the leadership role. He is subconsciously trying to put everyone at ease about participating in the hearing.

[@stevejohnson5477]

Yes

[@kevinVersus]

Totaly agree. He’s the confident experienced vet

[@Chicano_pistolero]

I do agree that he’s taken the leadership role among the whistleblowers for this program and phenomenon. A natural leader and patriot who just sees he is doing his duty as a citizen and member of the human species.

[@loftyguy11]

Apparently (according to representative Burchett) there were supposed to be 3 other witnesses, one of which told Mr Burchett that they received a call from the Pentagon and then decided it would probably be best if they didn't come. (This was stated by Mr Burchett on a News Nation interview). Hopefully more will find the courage to come forward after seeing the reception of these witnesses by Congress and the public.

[@joekey8464]

The three witnesses are, Jay Stratton, Travis Taylor, and Eric Davis. All members of the UAP taskforce with Grusch and part of the Skinwalker Ranch...and they regular at AlienCon.

[@jordanmills5784]

How do you know these were the witnesses?

[@joekey8464]

@@jordanmills5784 Grusch showed his true colors when he can't help mentioning "Holographic principle and higher-dimensions that can actually be crossed" in the hearings. Straight narratives from the Skinwalkers, inter-dimensions, worm holes, ghost, werewolves, goblins and aliens.

[@jordanmills5784]

Oh, I thought he was talking about string theory. But I thought you might have seen a video or something where the actual names of the witnesses came out. That's why I asked. Thanks for the reply though.

[@jordanmills5784]

I cant take anyone from Skinwalker ranch seriously.

[@livelearn5045]

Favour’s sighting only came out a decade after he retired when the government decided to allow the New York Times to publish the video of the incident. Favour was also a leading Top Gun pilot. His circumstances are completely different to Grusch’s as he was wanting access to secret programs hidden by the US government for 8 decades. Essentially he wasn’t meant to get as involved as he did with his research into where government funds were going. He became a massive problem. The government is happy to say there are strange things happening in the skys. They are not wanting to admit to recovered technology and non human pilots and most of all, taking tax payers money and giving it to private companies and admit an 80 year lie that’s actually a crime towards the American people. Also, Burleson stated at the beginning of the meeting that he was a sceptic but he felt he needed to be there.

[@karenking5357]

HIS NAME IS "F-R-A-V-O-R" NOT "FAVOUR"....THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT, DONT YOU THINK?

[@SloverOfTeuth]

I don't think facts play a major role in his conclusions.

[@mortalclown3812]

​@@karenking5357 😂 Shrieking in caps aside... Actually, no, the spelling of David Fravor's name spelling is far less important than the cogent nature of the commentator's remarks.

[@loucard4856]

@@karenking5357 you know who he meant so what does it matter

[@brutusjudas5842]

His story is different. It’s still misinformation.

[@javega2010]

In UFO terminology “contact” means communication, not physical contact. It is perfectly reasonable to have recover an alien body, which implies physical contact, but not make contact in the sense of communication.

[@scottcampbell4678]

I was born in Dayton, Ohio during the time the alien bodies were reported to be at Wright-Patterson Air Base.

[@zeldaDIEhard9]

Strong point.

[@highcry]

I was born in Lorain Ohio and my father graduated top of his class from Ohio State. This was in the early 80’s and he “claims” he was doing some programming and computer work for Wright Patterson. There were files he naturally wasn’t able to access but for as long as I’ve been alive he’s always said that he came across things that eluded to UFO’s and aliens

[@highcry]

He really did work briefly at Wright Patterson, but I or he can’t really verify or confirm what he saw.

[@sherrellboonstra5066]

In the US military, pay grades are often based on your security levels. If there was anyone that questioned your mental stability, you would not be granted your security clearance. Speaking about UFOs would definitely make them question your mental stability. So you can understand the difference on the demeanor of someone that is retiring, as opposed to the person that was in the middle of the career.

[@leelee69193]

I saw a ufo in London 8 years ago with my son. I reported it and several months later received a phone call confirming that nothing was meant to be in that area at that time. I’m level headed, not a crackpot, and I have spent all these years trying to work out if it could be anything else, but I’m stumped.

[@Michelle-cn9zp]

What did it look like?

[@Bozo---]

More details?

[@seedsoflove7684]

Govt has cool, fast, secret ufo projects. Hollywood sometimes brings them out. Hidden in plain sight.

[@SootyTX]

A drone is by far the most likely explanation, esp in the surveillance capital of the world.

[@seedsoflove7684]

@@SootyTX yes, survelleince is what the spies do.

[@jasonrooke11]

It amazes me how behavioral specialists can have such huge differences in analysis of people.

[@sm5574]

"True to them" . . . I think this is something that is very often overlooked when people talk about how trustworthy someone seems to be. I have had personal experience with someone who will tell themself lies in order to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions. These lies sound plausible, and since they believe it, they come across as sincere to those who don't know any better. Then they receive advice from the people who believe the lies. It's a potentially volatile and even dangerous scenario that can ruin relationships, careers, families, and even lives. That's why the thing Spidey emphasizes most is so very important: nothing is absolute, and we should dig deeper, rather than assuming everything is black or white.

[@jpined14]

A lot of presumptions and projection.

[@sm5574]

@@jpined14, yes, you are making quite a few. I'm speaking from personal experience that I know to be true and saying that it is an example of why we should generally seek better understanding of any situation. You're rejecting it out of hand with pop psychology buzzwords. If you want to have a discussion, then bring some specifics to the table. Otherwise, your comment is meaningless.

[@jpined14]

@@sm5574 This whole video is meaningless along with your reply. Its not like you just explained anything original or new.

[@sm5574]

@@jpined14, I didn't claim that it was original or new, just something to keep in mind.

[@traelstechnologytmalsantua3471]

​​@@sm5574 Hey, sorry that your being met with alot of pushback. I just wanted to be one of the few optimist who gave a coherent comment lol.. This is just a sensitive subject matter for most people especially ones whove had experiences and have been on the fringe because the subject is stigmatized. Also with all the skepticism of Roswell and the declassified files coming out shocking Americans many see this as the smoking gun that validates many suspicions. I also want to add the analyst also says that these witnesses are under oath so the facts are likely to be verifiable. I think your comment just came off as insensitive to the witnesses and other evidence not being presented. I myself am very excited to say the least.

[@forranach]

I have had two close encounters. Large wingless crafts, producing no exhaust plume, moving at impossible speeds or hovering completely still, they got very close and were completely silent. The one that floated directly over me, was at least schoolbus size, and produced an ultra low bass frequency that I could feel more than hear.

[@mike-ner6645]

I was in the military. I personally saw things i can't explain.

[@Nathan47223]

lol

[@GarrickHolmed]

What did you see? That’s interesting to me

[@mike-ner6645]

@@GarrickHolmed It was about 2002 we were doing training while we were attached to the 26 MEU (Marine Expeditionary Unit) in Albania. We were going to be doing a nighttime shooting range. I and another Marine were selected to post as guards to shut down the road to civilian traffic. There were two members of the Albanian military with us. It was casual we had a fire going and were waiting for radio traffic telling us to shut down the road. It was dusk but not quite dark enough to start the range. I and the others heard a loud and rapid noise, like a cannon going off but very rapid within milliseconds of each other about 5 or 6, that sounded like it came from the ski and not quite in the direction of the live fire range. We radioed command to ask if the range had started. They confirmed that it hadn’t while they were checking the range status, I was looking into the night sky looking for what might have made the noise. I spotted two objects in the sky that were far enough up that they looked more like slightly larger stars but moving very fast. One was white and the other was light red. Within a matter of ten seconds or so they disappeared over the horizon, one chasing the other. As I stood there looking up for about another minute or so trying to figure out what the heck I had just seen, I saw the same two objects reappear on the opposite side of the horizon. This time instead of just chasing each other they started darting back and forth like what I can only describe as a dogfight with fighter jets. Sometimes stopping in midair and moving at right angles. This lasted about a minute or two before they both shot off so fast, I could barely see them in streaks of light. I have no idea of any military technology that can do that. Completely going around the planet in under a minute and moving and stopping in mid-air. I feel nuts talking about it.

[@mike-ner6645]

@@stealthwarrior5768 I agree that's why I said it like that. I don't think it was aliens. I personally think it is some sort of military technology that we haven't been told about.

[@TheMarkofJB]

- You must realize all public statements Grusch is making have gone through a formal review process with the Pentagon. They decide what he can say publicly and he must respect this especially if he wants the Pentagon to continue to afford him whistleblower protections. So in a public hearing, he absolutely must be ambiguous or refuse to answer certain questions. Failure to do so would land him in prison regardless or whether or not you agree with the Pentagon's decisions about what he can say. - Grusch made very clear that he is allowed to provide the important specific info in a private setting (a SCIF). - Grusch made clear during the hearing he is involved in an active reprisal investigation and must be ambiguous with questions about reprisals toward him in order to not compromise the ongoing investigation. - If the tic tac had become hostile, it is clear and not mere speculation that the pilots would have had no defense. Conventional air to air weapons travel around mach 2-3. The tic tac was observed traveling at vastly faster speeds making it invulnerable to any weapons that might be used against it. - Grusch's statement that he "has never seen anything personally" in context clearly meant he himself has never had a UAP encounter, not that he has never seen documents or photos relating to UAP. There were a lot more inaccuracies in the video but these jumped out at me the most.

[@janakerr71]

Well put, I was scratching my head on some of the comments that were made by this content creator LOL

[@Joel-pn3de]

Thank you for writing that out, brother

[@Chicano_pistolero]

Some people are so scared they’ll lie to themselves to not have to deal with reality. The reality is we aren’t alone. And we are being visited by at least one other intelligent species.

[@DanHarkinz99]

The scary thing about this. Is that it feels like we're gradually being prepared for some news that likely... Isn't great for the human race. A lot of time and money was invested to try and keep this on the down low but with these reports and investigations it sounds like the time tables have moved up and the general public is being prepared to accept a very hard fact that is vastly approaching.

[@britishbeef6178]

News such as?

[@DanHarkinz99]

@@britishbeef6178 I can't speak on specifics on classified information. 😆

[@jamiejustlives]

My thoughts exactly.

[@DawnDavidson]

@@DanHarkinz99😂😂

[@Nathan47223]

lol no

[@andrewwingenroth5604]

I don’t believe they are lying. BUT I do believe they wouldn’t be speaking publicly about this unless they were allowed to. Like physically allowed to. Those whistleblowers would have died.

[@Dylan-lt9eo]

Whistle-blower at this caliber. Which they technically aren't, either of them as they got clearance to go to congress and talk about it from the very people that would be the ones to "get rid" of them. That said. People at this caliber with the information they are privy to. Do not act in ways that could get them killed without a set up "dead man's switch" they just don't. Or yes. They would be "sui-c1ded".

[@RollingThunder808]

Yes. Now the government are allowing all witnesses to talk.

[@reinexalumina9925]

I've heard some suspect that they allowed this so most people would focus more on this case rather than the Hunter Biden case. It's just a speculation though.

[@neckface1]

As for classified info, the reason Grusch can answer some things clearly and other less shocking things vaguely is because of the specific classification of each document. For example, something that someone told him or that he accidentally saw wouldn't be subject to NDA, but if it was on a piece of paper with a classified stamp, i.e. any documentation of pictures, testimony, etc., then he'd be subject to the NDA in that case.

[@nybakg]

Great clarification

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Yep. But how does it make sense that the same questions is sometimes classified and sometimes isn’t? He was asked if he has seen a craft with his own eyes he said he can’t share that publicly. But elsewhere he said “i haven’t seen anything.” My issue isn’t that some things are confidential and others aren’t. My issue is that the same thing seems to fluctuate in confidentiality.

[@neckface1]

@@TheBehavioralArts It's the wording of the questions. He's been very clear that he hasn't physically seen a craft or body in person, but he's implied that he has seen one but can't talk about it, which makes me think he's referring to classified photo/video that's under his NDA

[@neckface1]

@@TheBehavioralArts (I work in contract law, so this is the kind of thing I recognize as a legal technicality that the govt would try to catch him on)

[@AlexanderStone]

@@TheBehavioralArts Sounds like he hasn't seen an alien craft, but has access to a reverse engineered one.

[@m-bronte]

I'm confused by Grusch, first he says - "what he and his wife "personally" witnessed was disturbing".....then he said - "I have not experienced anything personally" ?? SO what is his definition of "Personally"? They needed to ask him when he mentioned he and his wife witnessed personally.... did that mean video? reports? story? or did he and his wife actually "SEE" something personally?

[@chiaraa4811]

I wonder if some answers depend on the way the subject interpretes the question. For example, if only dead bodies were retrieved, even I would say that no contact was made (assuming that "contact" implies a sort of "exchange", in which someone reaches out and the other party replies). If I have seen only footages, pictures, data (without knowledge to spot whether it has been tampered or not), I would say I haven't "seen" these objects. It also seems to me that many questions are avoided to prevent going into details that might require extensive and possibly complicated responses that might be difficult to provide without exhibiting visual material or using very technical language. If UFO have been consistently intercepted/sighted close to military bases equipped with nuclear weapons, I would also answer yes, they are interested.

[@fairstream]

This is exactly what I was thinking. Thank you!

[@romulodelmendo8361]

It could also be that Grusch thought "contact" meant communicative contact. The being may have been alive but never able to communicate with humans.

[@neckface1]

It's an NDA technicality issue. He hasn't personally seen anything, as he's said, and he can't talk about any *classified* documentation he's seeing (pictures, video). But he can talk about things he's discussed with people in his professional capacity as the head of the UAP Task Force. This is why he can say he knows things exist (via verbal confirmation) but can't get into specifics (via classified documentation). Worth noting that he provided all the classified docs to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Committee and is risking years of jail time just so he can get the word out. He has GS15 clearance and a ridiculous resume, so he's also sacrificing a huge salary

[@zacharyshort384]

@@neckface1 "He hasn't personally seen anything," He did say something along the lines of "what my wife and I saw was very disturbing". I wonder if that was suggesting they saw photos or footage or..?

[@neckface1]

@@zacharyshort384 wasn't that in reference to threats he had received? Not UFO evidence

[@maryanndiamond1690]

These ppl know how psychology works and we're trained to show what they need to show to the public to come across and honest, true and integrity...

[@diezelvh4133]

Receive training and coaching on it.

[@lainey7985]

I think Grusch comes across like a timeshare salesman or someone who would try to get other people to join a cult.

[@dougblask6279]

If you asked whether I could beat some big floating thing up, sure, I wouldn't know. But if I saw it moving 100x faster than I could ever imagine moving, I'd answer no.

[@doctorcameltoe]

@19:10 -- I also do not believe Fravor is showing duping delight... personally, I think he realizes how wild this story must sound and that up to this point the topic of "UFOs" has been so laughed about, he doesn't expect the panel to blindly believe him, or that they might laugh at what he's describing (because it sounds so crazy).

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Yeah agreed. I think it could be a “I know you may not believe me” which is where duping delight comes from but I don’t think it’s because he’s being deceptive.

[@atlas543]

My mom saw one. I didn’t believe her for the longest time, until we moved and the mother of one of our friends was talking about what she saw. The details were exactly the same as what my mom told me. Turns out our friends mother was driving one of the cars coming from the opposite direction my mom was going in.

[@romariocoffie4702]

what did they see?

[@akira28shima32]

How is possible you didn’t believe what you’re mother saw. It is her truth, she’s probably educated, not using drugs, and can decipher ordinary objects, just like anyone else.This goes to show why strangers have a hard time believing David Grusch’s testimony.

[@atlas543]

@@romariocoffie4702 a large octagon shape about the size of two houses put together. It had red lights under it. It slowed down and hovered over the car. When the other cars appeared, it began to leave.

[@atlas543]

@@akira28shima32 I was very young when I learned about what she had seen.

[@paulandrew6457]

I believe you BUT seeing something in the Sky that you dont recognise doesn't mean its alien spacecraft. Ive seen UFO videos that are obviously drones helicopters planes balloons natural weather events and even flies or dirt on camera lens. My own view is the Government want you to believe in alien spacecraft because its a distraction from what they are doing. This hearing offers no proof no first hand evidence of anything. Then you get into its a cover up territory and that's more control over the narrative. What planet do people think aliens come from how come nothing is picked up by satellites in space?!

[@ronnepostell9664]

I couldn’t wait to see what you had to say! ❤ You really captured my attention when you mentioned autism…my 21 y/o son is autistic and now I am totally tuned into what Mr. Grusch is saying. My experience with people on the spectrum is that one thing they have in common is it has to be something they visibly see to believe it themselves…

[@AliciaL98]

For Grusch, he may not want to talk privately, without witnesses or representation. That's smart to me, especially if he's concerned about threats or his words being twisted without any way to verify the actual words.

[@mattsavage9960]

His lawyer was behind him and was a former inspector general during Obama's administration. He was sat behind him between George Knapp and Jeremy corbell. But the fact his lawyer is a former inspector general and the current inspector general has also said that David gruschs claims are urgent and credible after he had verified David gruschs claims by interviewing the people on these programs with first hand knowledge, the same people David grusch also interviewed says alot about how serious this actually is.

[@AdMBandLeader]

​@@mattsavage9960If you guys believe and trust people from the intelligence realms, then you're naive as anyone can be. Sorry to say that but this is nothing more than a disinformation op alongwith an imminent fake alien threat in the making. This will be executed to achieve several things by the PTB. Namely, stalling the US elections next year, diverting massive amounts of taxpayer money towards gvt based orgs and agencies in the name of investigation and research on the topic, and going back to my first point, they'll use the COG protocol, also a preparation for placing a massive US and eventually a global all domain and all entity, every individual tracking and surveillance system. Good luck with your disclosure dreams.

[@I_have_Aquestion]

They were all supposed to meet in private in a secure room called a SCIF and they were denied access to it at the last minute. Grusch can only share classified information to Congress in a SCIF otherwise it is a breach of security protocol. Even if it is disclosed in a Representative’s personal office. The Representatives mention their frustration and concern about this occurrence during the hearing. Grusch was going to share everything he could in their meeting in the SCIF. Someone knew that and that someone had enough power to deny them access to the SCIF.

[@Gr13fM4ch1n3]

​@@I_have_Aquestionthat's something that really stood out for me. The SCIF denial, and his readiness and eagerness to share the information they were asking for.

[@kimberlycarpenter9468]

This is such a good unbiased interpretation. Unfortunately I think that Grusch might be the victim of some bullying. He is being told by people in departments he doesn't have access to exactly what he wants to hear. I think they're winding him up on purpose and never thought it would go anywhere.

[@twirlingparasol_]

5:17 Spidey, this is why I'm here for your content!! You go straight to something I didn't even think about, now I'm excited for the rest of the video!! 😅

[@livelearn5045]

Sorry to correct you but Ryan did have his own UAP sighting. He was flying an F15 on duty and a clear cylinder with a cuboid inside flew directly between his and another pilots jet.

[@rebeccaburnell9319]

And his sighting was referred to by oversight committee members during the hearing, and he speaks about it during the hearing.

[@lindaj71]

It’s not that I can’t believe there are non-human life forms, but I think the US Government is very interested in keeping the population scared and therefore dependant on them: social control. What are the chances of others being self-destructively warring populations?

[@mana3735]

BS.

[@davidgomez79]

I'm more skeptical of "body language readings" than I am of UFOS.

[@TheMaskedChef7]

Thank you so much Spidey for covering the hearing! Your analysis is the most anticipated and trusted on all topics but this one is very interesting to me.

[@pamelaconstantine170]

So well said!

[@madewildwonders2810]

@@pamelaconstantine170 not working so it give up

[@yahia9481]

I want an alien on my dish 😍

[@crookedErnie22]

I absolutely LOVE your channel! The body language topic has been something I've passively "studied" for a long time, and I've been following the ufo/uap story for 30+ years...like most people, I can't say much of anything for certain about what's really going on here. That said, there's a things that I would like to point out: The nuclear connection to uap's is based on several, very well known incidents, and although it's still speculation, the connection is based on the number of incidents that have been reported at either nuclearfacilities or neculer-powered vessels. So it's not surprising the 3 men responded with confidence to the question about a connection. Another thing, in regards to Grusch being able to answer some questions and not others...and some he answered different during his interview: his lawyer was sitting behind him at the hearing, and supposedly telling him when not to answer. The other thing here is about how classification works...I'm not an expert, but from what I understand there are a lot of variables here. Like he might be able to admit something about a specimen, but not a live being, or the existence of a program but not a vehicles shape (just an examples). Being a whistle-blower, he can talk about laws being broken, but has to be careful not to interfere with ongoing investigations. Needless to say, there's something going on here, and it's so complex, that if anyone like me had to explain it to someone who hasn't been following along, it would take weeks. One of the reasons that this subject os so fascinating to me is that, you have liars, people with mental problems, AND people who believe what they're saying, and they're ALL telling a similar version of the same story...I have long enjoyed trying to put peoples stories and people in those 3 categories, and the ones who believe that they're telling the truth tend to be the most interesting cases. I'm so glad you did this video, as I was anticipating you doing one after your previous video on Grusch. Great job Spidey. Thank you!!!

[@popcornstudios3497]

So are the aliens real or not??

[@SlickArmor]

@@popcornstudios3497 not.

[@ZamWeazle]

​@@SlickArmor Of course they are real! Do the research!

[@SlickArmor]

@@ZamWeazle oh yeah my bad. I meant to say the government has finally got some working models.

[@crookedErnie22]

Who knows if they're real?! But it is absolutely true that the US gov has been keeping information about UFO's classified for well over 70 years, and keep what they know more closely guarded than even any other sensitive secret. John Greenwald is a FOIA expert, and has found documentation that confirms that the US pays close attention to the ufo phenomena. This story has been heating up in the last few years, so I'd pay attention

[@jackthompson6192]

They are not telling us anything that would be informative that would really tell us what is really going on.

[@joehurst3495]

Kinda wish you'd have thought to include analysis of George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell (the guy with the red tie and the guy with the tattoos sitting behind Grusch) who were involved in getting at least Fravor on public record as well as Bob Lazar who 'coincidentally ' claims to have worked at Area 51 reverse engineering alien craft. Seeing them there behind Grusch makes me wonder if they had some prior involvement with him as well.

[@rebeccaburnell9319]

Corbell communicated with Grusch a number of times as the hearing went on, and Grusch sort of leaned back and tilted his head towards Corbell (not turning so far as to be interpreted to be turning away/redirecting his full attention from the committee) to say a one-word answer to him, I think, on a couple of occasions.

[@nealskrenes2612]

Imagine *an alien civilization so intelligent they can travel between the stars yet when they get to earth they crash… REPEATEDLY* apparently.

[@negotiableaffections]

here, here!

[@kevinhank17]

Imagine a civilization so intelligent they can span the globe, survive in every environment, travel to other planets, dominate every facet of nature and still crash sometimes? Impossible, any civilization capable of that would be perfect in every single way and unable to have accidents or be hurt by hostile actions.

[@nealskrenes2612]

@@kevinhank17 why is some of his knowledge confidential and others in a similar vein not? _Very inconsistent in his answers he said he’s never personally seen anything he’s only seen data but later he says he’s got direct knowledge._ Can’t be both. *Why didn’t congress receive an SCIF facility?* Logical answer; they’re not alien they are military weapons projects.

[@normancarr3015]

Always remember, advanced dose not mean perfert.The conquistadors were also advanced to the native Americans. But if a native blew a poison dart up their you know what they will die like the rest

[@lipkajosh]

Keep in mind its possible to have equipment have a one way trip.

[@joetamson4054]

disclosure is coming whether the skeptics like it or not it's fantastic 😍

[@charlesqbanks]

There is overwhelming evidence that there is nothing that can be confirmed.

[@back-seat-driver1355]

thumbs up - my thoughts also!

[@Nefville]

100% Couldn't agree more

[@romulodelmendo8361]

I think it's also unwillingness on the part of Congress to go and look where Grusch told them to look (I'm referring to the 11 hour CLASSIFIED testimony he gave the Senate and Intelligence Committee staff and lawyers) -- for whatever reason. Grusch said at the public hearing he gave all the evidence to the ICIG and the Intelligence Committees. Then, separately, Schumer proposes the UAP Disclosure Act with all sort of recovered craft and non-human intelligence language in it, even invoking eminent domain to reclaim the craft and bodies from private industry. There is something going on behind the scenes.

[@jeffhayz7802]

Seem honest to me. Is it wrong to embrace the idea that our reality could be incomprehensibly stranger than we currently know? I’m all for it ❤😂

[@michaelharig6506]

Having contact could mean communication and colloquy whereas having biologics could mean possession of deceased unable to communicate or respond to contact

[@Jonathan-rm6kt]

Spidey- such a great analysis and agree with almost all of your takes. One addition, 37:47 I’ve heard an interview with Sen Burchett who admits he will turn down briefing in skiffs because he’s aware that “they” will reveal some information that will cause him to be hampered in public disclosure. I’d be really curious to see the follow up on how and why they were denied the skiff, and under what circumstances

[@fallenxxxdestiny5577]

Been looking forward to this, can't wait to see and hear your analysis ❤

[@davebutler6015]

Hi there! In this video, you stated that you thought it was weird that Grusch experienced administrative repercussions while Fravor didn’t experience any repercussions for sharing his story… I’d like to point out that Grusch’s official duties were to investigate UAP programs whereas Graves and Fravor were pilots. Their official duties don’t involve UAPs and they’re not read into these programs. From their side, sharing what they saw doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll be charged under the espionage act for sharing their stories. Grusch’s situation is different because he learns of the details of UAPs from people who are also read into the parent program but not the actual compartment regarding alleged UAP recovery efforts. This is also why he declined to answer questions outside a SCIF. If he divulged classified information, especially in a televised hearing, the FBI would be waiting for him outside of the building to face charges under the Espionage Act. Personally, I think a second hearing would be the significant event that increases the momentum started by the first. To me, I would glean that Grusch answered questions in a SCIF or new whistleblowers are coming forward. Guess we’ll have to wait and see…

[@tracybocarisa2555]

How come MSM is hardly covering this ?

[@randorama1588]

I have so VERY MUCH wanted a post on this subject. Literally anything. I'm open to the idea, i think in such a large universe it is absolutely possible, but i really don't know. Sincerely thank you for covering this subject

[@WattsToTheWheels]

I think "contact" is referring to intellectual contact, some form of communication. That is clearly not the same thing as recovering dead bodies. And I also can see why there applies a different level of secrecy to those 2 things

[@ricbish]

One thing I’ve recently read about Grush is that he might have been leaking & discussing top secret Information with a few UFO people before he came forward or became a whistleblower. They said he went to several UFO convention & discussed some things there in the conference. Then went into discussions with two people Dr. Grear and another person who I can’t recall his name but he is sitting right behind him at this hearing. If you watch that person he will nod his head up and down when Grush talks about some of the things he’s witnessed. So in my opinion I don’t think Grush is being 100% honest & some of the penalties and issues he’s been having with military officials is because of what he did before this hearing and Not because of him being a whistleblower. Just thought that was very interesting & if it’s true sheds some light on what has been going on and why he is being penalized in the military. He does come across as someone with a large opinion of himself or maybe that’s just what I seem to see and feel when I watch and listen to him.

[@seedsoflove7684]

Yup. He seems knowingly deceptive to me.

[@AndreaCrisp]

Probably anyone who is at the GS15 level would come across as extremely confident or as you say would have a large opinion of himself. He has a degree in physics, plus two Masters degrees and is a decorated war veteran with an extensive resume. This man is smart and his confidence is well earned. As for deceptive, he literally can't answer most questions. There are clearance and national security issues as well as an ongoing investigation. His lawyer was sitting behind him advising him on what he could reveal or not. If the Inspector General thinks it is a serious matter, I personally would defer to their expertise.

[@rebeccaburnell9319]

The man behind Grusch and to the right, with a beard, without a suit jacket, is Jeremy Corbell (he stuck out to me when I watched the hearing because everyone else in the audience is wearing a suit, I think, and then like you said, he becomes animated as the hearing goes on including communicating with Grusch... while pretty much everyone else in the audience sits almost frozen the entire time). He stuck out so clearly to me, and I was so perturbed by his animation & his interactions with Grusch, that I checked Twitter to try to figure out who he was - I searched for "behind Grusch" and saw able to identify him immediately from what people were Tweeting (I then looked for his Twitter profile to see if it seemed to be an accurate identification, and then a basic wikipedia search). Not exactly deep research or anything, but just trying to identify him in the moment and figure out who he is to have been given a front row seat to this hearing, over Grush's left shoulder (ie, he's sitting in a seat where he is in the camera with Grusch at all times) I'm a skeptic, but I'm trying to keep a more open mind, with there being oversight investigations and with these witnesses being under oath. Corbell is what I'd typically call a conspiracy theorist filmmaker with a lot of UFO believer content under his belt. I went back and started watching the hearing a second time, and noticed that in his opening remarks Rep Burchett (R-TN) included Corbell and another UFO investigative journalist George Knapp in his thank you's (I think Knapp was also sitting in the front row behind Corbell but I'm not certain). Burchett even called Corbell "my buddy." He then asked for unanimous consent to include statements from Knapp and Corbell into the record (this was granted by the Chairman), and he read short excerpts from what they've written. As a skeptic, I'm having to work overtime to not dismiss Burchett and Grusch out of hand, but I keep reminding myself that even if they DO turn out to be crackpots, this is an oversight committee at work and they will sift through the information they gather and cannot come up with unadulterated crackpot conclusions. They will do this if only to work on government transparency/claw back oversight powers they lost after 9-11/try to rein in Pentagon appropriation of funds. (edit to add: even if they turn out to be wild-eyed conspiracy theorists, it doesn't mean EVERYTHING they've collected from 1st-hand accounts is BS) (I'm Canadian, but all of this is important globally, whether there is evidence that non-human intelligence exists or not - what the US military does affects the whole planet).

[@ricbish]

@@rebeccaburnell9319 Yes, those are the guys I was referring to in my post. I apologize I just couldn’t remember. Both Burchett and Corbell were mentioned as people Grush was working with and probably telling them Top Secret information before he ever came out as a whistleblower! I believe what he said that Grush had been going to UFO conferences as a Govt employee! Then started spilling the beans to them behind closed doors. So I’m guessing the govt. found out & probably started a investigation into Grush who got spooked and was talked into becoming a whistleblower by Corbell. So when you watch the meeting Corbell is very animated, nodding his head etc when Grush answers questions. That stuck out to me big time. If he didn’t have prior knowledge about what Grush was discussing he wouldn’t be nodding his head. Anyway, I am more concerned about the government having Black Book funding with no Oversight then I am about alien beings! I’ve always thought we’ve had access to possible ancient technology, not alien tech, that has been used to make some of the things people are seeing. Things like the triangle craft & possibly the Tik Tacks being observed by Navy pilots is probably our own vehicles like the Stealth aircraft and being kept from the public. I don’t care if their making top secret aircraft etc as long as there’s oversight! Without that it’s dangerous and too many bureaucrats have way too much power! That needs to stop bug time! As far as the aliens go, I personally do not believe they are from other planets etc but more in line with what religious books mention as angels and demons, things from other dimensions or something like that vs aliens! I hope this hearing turns out to be legit and not another BS session that doesn’t turn out anything. All the things that were mentioned in the hearing was knowledge shared in previous interviews or things that have been mentioned in Corbells films! So no earth shattering info has been shared & I was a little disappointed when I watched it. There’s definitely something about Grush that my gut is telling me he’s either a fake or something that I can’t put my finger on! He comes off very show “offish” if that a word?😂 He just comes off with this know it all, I’m better than you type of vibe! I could be totally off but I’m usually not. I’ve always listened to my gut or “sixth” sense since I was a child and it’s always proved to be good. I had the same feeling when the government started pushing the C19 shots! I just knew something wasn’t right with them and what they were saying about it. Turns out people who listened to their gut feeling and people who didn’t rush out and get these shots were right. Now we are starting to see what they are doing to people and it’s not good. Thanks for replying to my message! Let’s sit back & watch what happens! I don’t have high hopes for this but it would be kinda cool if something does actually happen and we get to know the truth about all this! Time will tell! Oh and hey I won’t hold it against you for being a Canadian!!🤣😂🤙🫡

[@ricbish]

@@AndreaCrisp Yes I understand about how he can’t answer questions, I just thought it was kinda funny seeing he’s a “whistleblower”. Nothing new came out in that hearing that hasn’t been discussed in Corbells UFO movies. Like I said he was spotted in several UFO conventions as a high level Government employee and had shared secret info with Corbell and Dr. Grear! I really think he did and that’s why the government came after him. He’s probably under investigation for that and Grear and Corbell talked him into becoming a whistleblower to help him and help shelter him a bit. If you watch Corbell he nods his head when Grush speaks and he wouldn’t do that if he didn’t know in advance what he was saying. So yeah he has a high clearance etc but I don’t think he’s a setup or plant for the government to mislead this hearing. There’s something about this guy that just rubs me wrong. I don’t think it’s the academics. I am a electrical engineer and have worked for over 20+ years with other engineers like myself or like people like Grush & that’s not what rubs me. There’s something else about him but we will see as time will flush out a lot of this. I hope this hearing and committee turns out to be legit and they can get to the bottom of this. I’m sort of tired of all the lies and deception the government has used in the past and I’d like to see the truth come out. I don’t care if the government has top secret aircraft etc. It’s the oversight or lack of that bothers me. Time will tell…..

[@jeffsales6836]

You had the question why can he say that we recovered non-human biologics and not say that we made contact with non-humans. The difference is one is admitting to a dead body, the other on the other hand stays classified because it implies obviously that we have exchanged knowledge, therefore technologies, therefore weapons. Huge difference.

[@MattMcMatt]

Great video on a challenging situation. Just because someone believes / is convinced something is true doesn’t make it true, but doesn’t mean they’re lying either. Makes it tricky for me to figure out

[@profeh3346]

Watching this after the third indictment of Trump - your assessment sounds like him too!

[@nomadscavenger]

​@@profeh3346No, it makes anything the government is involved with look tricky and deceptive. If u can't tell Fravor/Graves are telling the truth, this platform is a waste of time. If u actually think anything brought against Trump other than being a relatively competent non-politition, you are being naive, and the key is relative to someone who doesn't know where he is most of the time, and waiting for his next intravenous "nuriva" dose.

[@reecechadwick8504]

Probably is true tho.

[@ebtinz9161]

Of course they can know if they can’t be able to beat it. They know the speed of their aircraft and they saw the speed at which the UAPs come and go. They can know that they can’t defend at least based on the speed at which the UAPs move.

[@litasanford7595]

1. The people testifying are using language that sounds specific, but actually is vague. The Defense Department has elevated that to an art form. “Contact” could mean some kind of communication. It could also mean that someone spoke to a nonhuman shortly before it died. It could be touching a nonhuman. That contact sentence doesn’t really mean anything. 2. The people in this meeting are under oath, but it’s televised. There could be information that they don’t want other governments or companies to have. Some topics may be thought of as “safe” to discuss with people in private, who have high security clearances.

[@romulodelmendo8361]

Yes, I would interpret "contact" or "in contact" to mean being in communication with and maybe even in some sort of mutual understanding.

[@DawnDavidson]

I absolutely agree about the possible different interpretations of words like “contact.” Is that a sighting? Touching it? Interacting with it? Communicating with it? It communicating with US? I teach classes about communication. One of the first things I teach is that you MUST have agreement on what particular words MEAN. Otherwise, you WILL have trouble with the communication, as people answer based upon different definitions of words. So you THINK you have agreement, but you don’t. I think that is likely happening here at times.

[@davelloyd-]

As a kid in the UK in the early 80's I saw a fairly slow moving object fly overhead that was witnessed by my friend a few doors down (we were talking over the hedges). Don't recall a sound and my child mind latched onto the nearest likey thing I knew - the phoenix from the battle of the planets cartoon, though I don't think it had 'wings' and was more just a triangular shape. As I've aged I've gotten increasingly sceptical and whilst _I_ can't explain what I saw, it doesn't mean it wasn't a human craft. My memory has also dulled and is contaminated by that latch to the phoenix so now I even imagine there was a red tip - I can't trust what I remember anymore except the feeling of awe. We didn't all carry around cameras in our pockets when I was a kid, but nearly everyone has a mobile phone nowadays, yet the 'best' pictures we have are vague grainy dots?

[@LisaAnn777]

The cameras we carry can't catch far away objects very well. Sightings usually don't last very long either so you would have to capture it pretty quick. It's going to take something like military radar systems and flir to really catch something like that.

[@tracyfrederick5606]

Thank you for pointing out how nice and cooperative this hearing was ! I noticed it the first time I watched it. I've watched it several times.

[@1183newman]

This is because congress has been hearing this information for over a year with multiple witnesses coming forward to congress behind the scenes. Grusch, fravor and graves were just confirming in public setting what congress already knows.

[@The_Reckoning_Is_Here]

My grandfather was a radar specialist in the coast guard for over 20 years I’m curious if he ever seen anything. I’m torn on the issue - we have billions of planets I can’t believe statistically we are alone.

[@LisaAnn777]

I'm not torn on it. These same type objects have been reported since ancient times. Something has been visiting and monitoring Earth for a very long time.

[@sirmoomin2322]

I ran into your channel by coincidence and I subscribed after first video. Top notch and you really know your stuff.

[@bonnied72]

One thing I found interesting as well as that when asked if he believes there is a threat to homeland security, Fravor says yes but only mentions the threat as being from humans reverse engineering the technology. He doesn't appear to think there is any threat from whoever created the tech

[@loftyguy11]

I've been waiting for this one!!

[@olx8654]

We upgraded our radar systems and they started picking up weird bird sized, bird speed, bird altitude objects that seem to have some kind of flappy propulsion. I think at least 2 of the more popular videos match that description if you look at the actual sensor data on screen.

[@Mirandajane84]

No. Any time someone makes extraordinary claims without extraordinary evidence I'm not buying it. But I am curious why they are taking time to talk to them.

[@mana3735]

Money will be made.

[@Mirandajane84]

@@mana3735for sure...at every opportunity

[@mana3735]

@@Hermes_The_Sage I have...it's all BS.

[@annaberg6505]

In Swedish we say "stand under oath" as a 'legal situation', not a body position. Just as one can "stand up for one's rights" or "stand united".

[@idimmusangel78]

As someone with server GAD and ADHD my baseline is to over explain everything because I worry I'm not being clear. I can have a point branch into multiple things that people don't always connect to the subject until the end. And so many other "quirks" that go hand in hand with my neurodivergent diagnosis. Which floors me when my Dr points out that is a trait of them. But yeah Spidey has helped me discover my own baseline and not just look for it in others.

[@DulceN]

The over explaining also occurs in people that have lived in abusive (emotionally and mentally, not necessarily physically abusive) situations. I have lived all my 62 years with narcissists/BPD relatives (mother, ex-husband, daughter) and feel the need to overexplain in order to make extremely clear what I mean and leave no room for misunderstandings. Problem is, I’m so used to it that I tend to do the overexplaining in every situation.

[@SWTmel]

I over explain (perhaps because I'm a teacher), but not sure. I want there to be no misunderstandings. My question to you is: Do people get frustrated with you because you "take forever to get to the point"? That happens in my case. LOL

[@brittneybabeee4031]

@@SWTmelI also struggle with the same thing & yes, people do get frustrated with me, including my family. 😢

[@AndreaCrisp]

Same here! I was only diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD at 46, but know that I know more it explains so so much, including my over explaining everything. I have a deep need to understand my world and thus I just always figured that's why I need to overexplain. It's only been more recent years that I've really realized in a deeper way that most people do not share my curiosity or interest in the world at large. The more I learn the less I like neurotypical people. They seem to be petty and boring and self-absorbed. Lol Oops. Did I type that out loud?!?

[@SWTmel]

@@brittneybabeee4031 Same! My family (and some friends) are like "Spit it out! What are you saying." (As they prolong it by interrupting) lol

[@mrlee4353]

I have to disagree that contact and recovering biologics is more or less the same thing. Recovering alien bodies is one thing but having contact with live aliens is next level up

[@bethwenner]

It would be fascinating to see you analyze the long-form interview of David Fravor on Joe Rogan's podcast. He explains things in much greater detail there. Based on what he said in that interview, I believe his statement that he couldn't defend himself if the situation turned hostile is attributed to the fact that the object he saw outmaneuvered the fastest technology that we have and also that any object flying where they conducted their training (where he saw the object) posed a severe safety hazard.

[@Lmapmpmfa]

When I mentioned about public speaking and rank when I commented about Graves, Fravor is a prime example. He is an a retired lieutenant commander (O-4) which is the equivalent of an Army major. At this point in his career, he would have had to stand before numerous people for numerous reasons and would now be operating under the guideline of “bottom line first,” no BS. That is probably why he seems to slam through the first part of his intro. He made sure to correct the congressman on tic-TAC, but barely hesitated before continuing into the rest of his oration. He’s all business. He is also the only one who says he was there at the sighting of multiple oddities. From the get-go, he states why the two birds were sent. To investigate which is the only time he notes that someone else had noted the UAP’s and was monitoring them prior to sending someone else to take a look-see. He makes sure everyone knows that he was commanding officer-not a distinction to be sneezed at-of the world famous ‘Black Aces,’ which solidifies the reliability of what was seen. He and the other three men sent were considered highly honorable and reliable by proxy of belonging to this strike fighter squadron at that time. Then he goes on to state that he was one of the eight people sent out. When he says the air controller was “counting down the range to the objects,” he means they were being told how much distance before they should encounter the objects. Fravor tells the committee that they saw the flying things (though they didn’t see them more than on radar and as tic-tac images through the cockpit). He then notes the strange conditions under which they were seen, why these conditions were noteworthy and strange, and that the objects and the odd water conditions abruptly disappeared as the planes approached. This seems important to me, as he doesn’t discuss any photos or other images that may have been able to show visual details of the UAP’s. This is as close to distancing himself from the event to which he was witness, it seems to me.

[@NewWorld4Me90]

I think he's trying to get out as much information as he could during the congressional hearing without getting himself into trouble.

[@christopherdaffron8115]

Yes, in the strong tradition of being a true whistleblower.

[@1fast72nova]

If he's going to whistle blow... Whistle blow. He's half ass'n it imo

[@christopherdaffron8115]

@@1fast72nova Congress basically told Grusch that he would be protected which was the go ahead for him to spill the beans and be a TRUE whistleblower. He did not take them up on their offer.

[@1fast72nova]

@@christopherdaffron8115 weak sauce huh...

[@AShep92]

You guys do realize that the protections congress provides to UAP/UFO whistleblowers doesn’t cover classified materials being released to the public. There are laws that Grusch has to follow, that’s why he had his lawyer sitting right behind him telling him if he could answer the question. Grusch would love to show everyone what he saw and knows, but he can’t without facing legal consequences. If he were to share classified information, that would be used to discredit him and arrest him or even worse.

[@traciedavis4575]

with a billion dollars missing from the Pentagon every year, are we sure this isn't our own stuff that pilots are seeing?

[@TheBehavioralArts]

That’s a terrific question. If the Pentagon is hiding billions of dollars what else is it potentially hiding? 😆

[@twirlingparasol_]

I loved this one. It completely aligned with what i think about it... If the government are allowing these people to speak, it's likely orchestrated. Just as you pointed out, people unite when there's a larger threat... Something to ponder, anyway. 🤔

[@jediknight73]

The 3 pilots are not saying anything top secret.

[@kevinhank17]

The point of the hearing and the whistleblowing though is that the government doesn't know about these things because they have been hidden and restricted from the highest authority in the land. The government is allowing them to speak so it's on public record and the investigation can't be stopped, because the government wants answers as to why this has been hidden from them. Did you watch the full hearing, lots of Congress's questions were more about who specifically is not allowing them access to this information more than what the information is about, the whole alien thing is secondary to the real issue at play here. It's being aired in public so it can't disappear behind closed doors.

[@junipersages]

Steven Greer keeps alluding that there is a deadline to change/disclosure. I am not convinced he is a good source but it would make sense to me that this meeting could have been held for reasons that are not necessarily malicious (such as aliens wanting the world to know about them and telling the government that they have a deadline to disclose or they will do it themselves). I am quite torn as to what the nature of these non human intellegences may be. I can see a valid argument towards paternalism/wanting to help as well as maliciousness. I think it is interesting that all of this aligns with the main plot of X Files and that makes it harder for me to believe. If it is true I am wondering if the abduction stories are also true.

[@twirlingparasol_]

@@jediknight73 yeah, there are times in Grusch's previous interview when he straight up says he can't divulge blah blah blah. Maybe he has a contract with them until 2025 and that's why he slipped at the hearing (I don't know how that stuff works). But he still actively works for the government, that's a fact.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. Definitely lots to think about. I’m curious to see what’s next

[@joshh6861]

I'm pretty sure when they answered that they don't think they could defend themselves if it became hostile, is clearly based on the sheer speed and maneuverability of the thing. So they do know, or think they do

[@HOLLYHOUSE11]

Two things--Firstly, Rep. Burchett is my ex, and secondly, my husband was a Doctor and ran a whole wing of a major hospital in Seattle. He had an experience 29 years ago in WA state and because of that we have had to live 24/7 with private security due to the constant and ongoing harassment of the deep state that continues to this day. Also, they have killed dozens of my husband's co-workers, friends and our security and anyone who has attempted to help him. Countless people and their families have been threatened. They expunged his total existence and destroyed any credibility that he had. Entire websites have been created calling him a liar. It has ruined his life. If anyone has an experience where you are left with tangible, solid evidence, I suggest you keep your mouth shut.

[@DankDragon62]

This has to be hard living this way,stay safe& thanks for your input

[@prof.mommyarty]

WOAH, I sincerely hope you're all staying safe. I can't imagine the constant stress

[@mikefuller363]

complete nonsense

[@shae9364]

I believe it. It's just wild to me, because if was ever a time to let the public know there's more than just us. I'm sorry you've had to be on the run.

[@IndridColdSteveAustin]

So youre telling people to just stay silent and just continue to live in fear for the rest of your days until the information you have dies with you? Hell no. This information needs to be public, come forward with whatever information you have, for the sake of the human race.

[@catahoulacadre7052]

The reason they can be of the opinion that the UAPs are a physical threat is based on apparent maneuverability which far exceeds that of our own assets. Maneuverability is the main factor of superiority in a dogfight.

[@fourierrocket]

When I'm in meeting and people make statements, I always see the absurdity in things. So I often crack a smile while trying to contain it. People sometimes think I'm weird.

[@5hawks]

So you're a closet comedian?

[@DawnDavidson]

@@5hawksNo, they are saying that they see humor in situations that others don’t always see humor in. When they smile, other people - since they don’t see the humor in it - “think [they are] weird.” They aren’t saying that they think of themselves as a “comedian”, which is (I think) what you might be trying to say. Just that they have a certain internal sense of humor that causes them to see/hear the absurd in “ordinary” statements. I recognize this tendency, because I do something similar. I’m always looking at signs in businesses or on billboards and seeing an ambiguity that leads me to laugh at something I doubt the original was supposed to mean. There was a really mild one a couple decades ago in a florist’s window that I laughed at every time I went by, but I can’t recall the details of, unfortunately. There’s one that I saw earlier this year which is ABSOLUTELY not supposed to be funny, but fits this pattern. There was a giant billboard pointing out that fentanyl was - at least in part - responsible for 1/5 of overdose deaths in CA in 2021. But the actual sign had the message split into 2 lines: “Fentanyl is behind” “1/5 overdose deaths” so my weird brain - I do a lot of editing for clarity in academia - read the sign, mentally put in a full-stop line break at the end of the first line, and thought, “what? Fentanyl is behind and needs to catch up to other kinds of overdoses??” I KNEW that’s not what they were trying to say. But this weird part of my brain just had to find the black humor in the way the sign was formatted. (And even writing this note, at first i typed “the way the sign was laid out” and decided that the pun between “deaths” and “laid out” was too on-the-nose!)

[@DawnDavidson]

I do the same thing! See my response to LameWarrior for one example. I also basically lost a friendship over a smile “at the wrong moment”. I was an officiant, setting the space for a wedding by singing a song while also going around the space and lighting candles at the four quarters off of a taper candle in my hand, which was then to be placed in the center of the space. I had the presence of mind to realize that if the candle blew out while doing this, I’d be in big trouble. So I tucked a lighter in my pocket ahead of time. And thank goodness I did! Because the candle blew out when I was at the SOUTH, which in Wiccan/neo-Pagan tradition aligns with fire, will, and passion. I chuckled to myself between verses, grabbed the lighter, and re-lit the candle and went on. I was darned proud of myself for anticipating that! Later on, the bride was ANGRY at me “for laughing about their marriage.” See, my back was to the camera (and the audience) at that moment, so no one knew what had happened. If I hadn’t laughed AT MYSELF, no one would have known anything happened at all (or maybe they would have thought I’d forgotten the words to the verse or something.) She thought I was laughing AT THEM. It wasn’t the ONLY thing that happened that day, but she held on to that grudge for a loooong time. It basically ruined our friendship.

[@FionaC1]

Excellent analysis Spidey. Well worth all the hard work in preparation it took to put together 😊

[@nancythomas1954]

I think that people have two lines of thinking on this topic. I grew up in the desert and all my life I have met people who lived in the area too who have seen things (ie; beings, crafts, lights and such ). I have first hand met several of them personally and heard their stories. Amazing amount of people have the same stories even though they had never met. The fifties and sixties were an interesting time to grow up. I have seen things myself that I can't explain but then so did so many before me. We have a long time suspected the government of covering things up to "protect us" from the knowledge that we are being visited. Human's natural paranoia and fear could certainly make a mess of things. Looks at the Salem witch hunts. Thank you for looking at this logically and from this angle I appreciate it. I can't quote Shakespeare but you know the one I am thinking of 😁

[@Bozo---]

A lot of people think they see ghosts but they don't exist. Same thing here

[@bms77]

@@Bozo---they don’t exist? Really?? Got any evidence for your rather positive claim? Lol you just acquired a burden of proof or evidence congrats!!

[@Bozo---]

@@bms77 it's not me that have to prove that they don't exist but rather you have to prove that they exist. That's how science work.

I believe it may very well be possible that the likes of Mellon, Grusch and Elizondo have a hidden agenda to manipulate the public on the UAP issue. Reason being is that they are former government insiders who have always worked in high-level positions within the US intelligence and defense departments, which almost certainly means that they still have connections or interests in those sectors, as these 3 were always involved in the relationship between the us military and private companies that have contracts with the US government, and therefore funding from the US Army. Furthermore they have not provided any verifiable evidence to support their claims that the US government has alien vehicles and biologics, and that they were denied access to secret programs related to UAPs. The fact that they also could not discuss more details in a public setting, raises doubts about their credibility and motives. IMO I dont think that they are motivated by a sense of duty or that they want to expose the truth about UAPs, I believe they may have their own governmental agenda for how the UAP issue should be handled and that they are working for or with some elements of the US government or military to influence the public perception and policy on UAPs, exploiting the same public interest and curiosity for additional funding on these programs and/ or some other govermant plan that we will.never know. Again this is my opinion which may or may not be true.

[@mauibabe1711]

You are SPOT-ON imho!!! 🎯🎯🎯

[@brucewayne3271]

The reason the pilots couldn't defend themselves is their aircraft were not armed. They were on an training mission.

[@markcook3570]

Or scouting

[@Green.Country.Agroforestry]

F 18s are amazing aircraft .. in a support role, and as an air to surface fighter, there isn't much better .. but they are not air superiority craft by any stretch of the imagination.

[@JTPyrus]

yes, I understand as I have degrees in psychology, sociology, and public affairs. Like you mentioned i do not understand why they would harm themselves if they did not believe something was wrong. They have nothing to gain. but being persecuted .

[@pamelaconstantine170]

Another excellent video. I’m so glad you covered this.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 😊

[@denisia1111]

​​@@TheBehavioralArtssorry to piggyback off another fan's comment. I just wanted to point out Gatez and a few other members of Congress are unable to get top secret and classified information. Almost all members of Congress can pass the background checks and those who cannot is new issue within the 8yrs or so. This is why they said they couldn't get the documents or access to areas of interest mentioned. Again sorry to cut in, I am always interested in your perspective and opinions. Thanks for sharing Spidy.

[@Lmapmpmfa]

Now is the third question from the committee that is highlighted and is asked by Mr. Raskin. He asks about Grusch’s experience since he came forward. Grusch seems to bee”handing” his responses to the committee using his hands, like he’s saying “and here’s more. Would like some potatoes with your turkey. Have some gravy, too,” because here is the push to say how big this issue is. He keeps pushing the “I’ve had overwhelming support,” despite that it’s “ONLY been” a short time since I’ve made it public. Then he goes into how threatened he feels. He is really inflating his story every time he thinks he’s not being believed. It is really obvious that he wants people to think it’s as real as he believes it to be and that the government should be pushed to take appropriate action. But he can’t even pinpoint a source when he’s backed into a corner about where the threats are coming from. He has tarted to put um and uh interjections while speaking. I think his accusations and what he believes is starting to fall apart. He is scrambling, and I think he is really actually scared and can’t think on his feet. He is starting to pause before speaking. All he can say is he has knowledge that he’s heard about certain senior leadership gunning for him and the others in this endeavor to come forward. When Mr. Raskin tries to niggle more definitive answers from him. He makes a statement that action would be taken against anyone who tries to harm the committee’s witnesses. But he also subtly implies that Grusch’s statements may not be actually true but are respected as being made from Grusch’s perspective. But Grusch comes back at him with I know people who have been “Brutally,” administratively attacked because of this. He even goes as far as bringing his hand up to his throat in a strangling motion. I really do think that Grusch thinks he is in life threatening danger.,I see his forehead really furrowing. His hands aren’t clasped anymore. His confident speaking is quivering. He is literally folding in on himself. His head is ticking down and his hands are traveling up his arms in a self hug. His head tuck is causing him to hunch. He appears to think Raskin is even attacking. I believe Grusch would curl up under the table if he could. I think, also, that Raskin senses this because his tone has become on of an adult trying to comfort an extremely terrified child. I see little reassuring nods with chin and a posture that wants to close the distance between the committee and th witnesses and make sure Grusch knows it will all be okay. I’ve seen that same behavior that Raskin has in nurses at hospitals trying to calm patients.

[@theo4878]

Those are three of the most badass men to ever walk our planet.

[@seedsoflove7684]

I think they are all liars, personally. I think all ufos are govt created, not extraterrestrial. So yes, they exist, but they are earthly just secret.

[@colind7678]

Or just puppets.

[@seedsoflove7684]

@@colind7678 def just the dark govt mouthpieces, controlled, gaslit, and perhaps even brainwashed.

[@highcry]

It would be nice to get a part two of the UAP meeting analysis analyzing the various members of congress. I think collectively, the analysis could lead to some profound realizations

[@ethereal369]

Not really. None of the members of Congress and most of the rest of the government, for that matter, knows very little to nothing about what's going on with this subject. It's a very select few that are "read in" on it or even aware that the project exists.

[@bms77]

@@ethereal369bingo!!

[@bms77]

@@ethereal369also very few individuals if any probably have all the facts that are known about this subject. They let certain individuals who are in the know, in on only enough specifics to do their job, not the whole picture.

[@lilithatgirl5795]

When Grusch said “to which I was denied access…” it recalled my sense about him in your previous video on him. In that one, I didn’t question the truth of what he shared so much as his motive. I’d agreed about his interest in belonging but also the felt pride in his former role. Having been permitted only so far and denied full access seems significant with him. It’s like he wants to be a whistleblower (perhaps out of spite of not being given inner circle access, or maybe because it allows him to revisit the prestige of his role and appear to know more than he was granted access to) but with very limited first-hand exposure to anything.

[@mattr1554]

Grusch is a true patriot, and he takes his oath to the Constitution seriously. That is why he is doing this. If I found out that my government, I sacrificed so much for, was murdering people to keep a secret, trafficking people to help finance all of this, and holding on to alien technology, as well as bodies, AND spending OUR unaccounted-for tax dollars on doing it behind our backs, I'd do the same exact thing he is doing. But regardless of his personal motives, all this stuff is happening, and has been happening, even before the United States existed. It all goes back thousands of years, and most likely before we were ever present. And the whole coverup started with the Catholic Church and their crusade to hide and destroy anything that went against their selfish agenda of imposing will and gaining total control over people. And I'm not even religious. I can't stand organized religion because all it does is give greedy men a basis for imposing their will onto anyone they want. And anyone who argues that has not paid attention to history. I hope these beings come forward and introduce themselves. I hope they come here and crack the whip on our species. That they say, "You know what? We're tired of your bullshit. Either get your shit together, or cease to exist, you pick."

[@1183newman]

Pentagon was tasked by congress to setup a UAP task force to investigate the "new" uap issue since the release of new previously classified footage such as the tic tac video. Grusch was put in charge of this task force. Whilst investigating grusch came across programs directly related to his job of which he was denied access to. Essentially prevented from doing his job and uncovered programs which were not subjected to congressional oversight. I think pentagon relucantaly put together this rask force for congress and was confident it wouldnt get anywhere but grusch refused to back down.

[@L.U.AURIEL]

It is great that since this 1st hearing a SCIF was approved and Grusch gave Congress Senators his classified evidence.

[@prof.mommyarty]

Out of us and our 3 kids, only our daughter isn't neurodivergent and while we have similar traits our personalities make us come across very different. I think there's no black and white at all which makes your job even harder, especially if you have no knowledge if their conditions in advance. I read Grush differently in a few places so clearly have an INCREDIBLE amount to learn! They say only an alien invasion would unite all humans to work together but look what happened with covid 🤦. I'm not so sure 🙈. I'm in the camp that thinks that statistically there HAS to be others somewhere but the technology needed to make contact is terrifyingly beyond us. I'm sure I'm going to get some opposing comments thrown my way😄. Love your insight and the sensitive way you handle things. Tfs and have a great day 💖💖💖

[@shae9364]

I'm neurodivergent, and my reactions to things aren't normal, and I feel them intensely. I'd hate to be read. Only one person has ever been able to read me like a book.

[@Livingrentfreeinyomind77]

Maybe it’s not an invasion and it’s something even more bizarre than aliens visiting us. It could be that these beings have always lived on earth and are just as much a part of our world as we are. It’s just really strange but hopefully we will more know and know as we go.

[@rhondakennedy819]

Be kind to each other. Stay safe. Love to all

[@kellycasperhanson4426]

🤔I just don't trust Grusch. It's a gut feeling. 👍Glad to hear from Spidey. Best quote: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." 🎤Abso-freakin-lutely!

[@Lmapmpmfa]

Also, during introductions, Grusch almost imperceptibly nods his head several times to confirm the accuracy of his introduction as the chairman says it.

[@Dougwarren69]

Next up, the truth about Sasquatch. "The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth" -brought to you by The Department of Redundancy Department. Great job, Spidey! 😎

[@joebenzz]

You are what i consider to be a true skeptic which is to not blindly accept what is being told but to question it and find out a maximum amount of evidence or data to support it. Most so called "skeptics" we usually see just flat out deny and reject or even ridicule anything that is out of the ordinary and use science and their own twisted logic to justify their behavior and they don't even want that kind of subject to be talked about at all.

[@__Violet._.]

why are they telling us this now, is the question and here is a clue: Mr. Werner Von Braun said: " The last card will be alien threat " He said that over and over to Dr. Carol Rosin in the early 70's. This man died in 1977. He was also present at a military hangar along with President Johnson, Neil Armstrong, Edwin Aldrin, Robert Emanager, Gene Krantz, James Webb, Joe Kirwan, Dr. Thomas Payne, Glenn Looney, Dr. Christopher Craft, Dr. James Van Allen, General Trudeau, Luitenant Colonel Donald Simon and Grand Norray where the filming of Apollo 11 moon landing took place, in June 1968. After so many lies about anything and everything, should we trust governments blindly ? It is not what they say it's the Why they say it.

[@mikefuller363]

nonsense

[@StormCaller5]

I have info concerning the smile on the face of CDR Fravor. My daughter is 25 and on the autism spectrum. She loves letting people know of the latest celebrity death. Even if she's upset at the death, she's so happy to be informing others of the death, that she will sometimes smile. I think this guy is so excited to be on this panel, that he can't contain his smile.

[@antifusion]

Would have been interesting if you had also applied this to Matt Gaetz's testimony about him and 2 others from the hearing investigating a recent military UAP incident, firstly being denied access and then later being allowed to interview the pilot, see photographic evidence and radar data. Especially so since it's the first type of testimony from members of the committee. The clip was pretty viral.

[@ramhammer10-4]

Yes yes yes.... Lol

[@mirelairinapetre6503]

I m sure that all of you who had close encounter( not just seeing smth), are watching this with a smile on your face.A kind of patronizing smile.

[@astrophysicistguy]

You are absolutely correct. The fact that they could not have access to a SCIF for this hearing is absolutely a smoking gun. The ONLY reason to do that is to try and keep them from hearing his specific testimony. However, I do know that the House and Senate primary oversight committees ( Not the subcommittees) have in fact been briefed in a SCIF about the specifics of these same programs so there are members of Congress who do know the details.

[@davethomasatemyhamster]

Hessdalen in Norway is a great place to go to see UAPs . Brilliant video loved the analysis👍👍👍

[@JamJells]

This subject above all the noise of the mass media is the most important event of all of our lives, and it stands to reason that our leaders know this to be true and have controlled their bias to find these answers. Hoping for more hearings to procure reigning in of those whom selfishly have kept great secrets from the tax payers of our great nation.

[@banehog]

Or! Or! It is complete nonsense and a waste of everyone's time.

[@Nefville]

I for one am so glad the truth is finally getting out there. I can't wait for the hearings on ghosts, vampires, Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster to happen too. Its about time people learned the truth about what the government is hiding. Fantastic times to be a non-reptilian on this great flat earth!

[@GinaSeay-kn7xr]

So, did the aliens just visit the USA, or have they toured other countries? In that case, are all Governments and their military departments covering this up?

[@banehog]

@@GinaSeay-kn7xr there is no cover-up by any government or military because there are no aliens. So there's that.

[@JamJells]

@@GinaSeay-kn7xr unknown. But the stories continues to this day. Long history. Every country have their UFOs . If you are well traveled. You'd know this.

[@jamesweible5357]

I'm really glad you covered this one, because as soon as I saw it, I thought Grusch was much more believable, though like you said there were still a lot of issues. The two pilots seemed like the top notch pilots I dealt with in the USAF, those types who had either seen a lot of combat or were in the job a long time and were very careful with their actions, words, etc. very methodical. Younger/ less experienced pilots tended to be more flighty, not so serious. Those less experienced pilots tended to over-exaggerate issues or hold strong to things they thought were broke, but the older guys knew better and gave us exact details of what they experienced and why it wasn't working as it should, then let us figure out what was causing the issue. Basically "I have experienced this problem, you are the people to fix it, I'll let you do your job" I saw the same type of thing here. Fravor was just there to tell what he saw and his assessment of the situation. (what about his holding his thumb btw? Pacifying gesture?) Graves sees an issue with reporting, and wants the system changed Grusch...I'm not sure what he wants. He seems like he wants knowledge of this to be more democratic, but also seems like he wants to be the one in charge of it, while at the same time looking like he wants to be involved but not in charge, he's hard to read. I DID think he had to be more clear in his answers due to being under oath, which bothers me more about his interview. What might have been happening behind the scenes was he got instruction from a lawyer who read the NDA and classification regulations specific to him, and they had enough holes that he could let some things slip using specific wordage, but then like you said he said something entirely different at a different time, so I need more data. Grusch could also be lying under oath, assuming that he could never be called on it because in order to do so the trial would require releasing of documents agencies don't want to release.

[@stephenpomfret5068]

David fravor is a key witness,he adds a lot more credibility to this hearing.

[@jamesweible5357]

@@stephenpomfret5068 yeah he does.

[@patricialake104]

I have always struggled with body language and im so grateful for things you teach us. I was talking to my psychologist about something that had happened and when I said the other individuals name she turned her ear towards me and said "excuse me" and I repeated it. When I did she compressed her lips. "Ah, you know him" I didn't say that "looking down to the right. You don't have to, your compressed lips are withheld opinion and you never look down and to the right so you were being deceptive. "Another lip compression...yep, all the confirmation I needed.