Is The John Deere 2038R Too Big? Removing Landscape Rock, Adding Mulch!

[@steveadams4009]

I haven't seen anything that you have done yet that my old JD950 couldn't and in most cases hasn't done. As well as yard and landscaping, spreading gravel, fighting fire, brush hogging, It in its career also mowed grass for the US Corps of Engineers on every lake in the state of Oklahoma as well as many in Texas and Kansas. She mowed Lakes Ft. Gibson, Oologah Lake, and Tenkiller Ferry Lake for 6 years in a row (that was a great contract). But eventually age catches us all and now I get to live vicariously through your work.

[@bobbrayshaw1179]

Hi Tim, Hi Christie, We live on the East Coast just south of Whitby, England, where we are renovating and developing a small farm. After watching (all) your videos we invested in a 10 year old JD3036 with a loader which we love. It’s only done a few hours so is in great condition. We’ve now just bought a Case CX18C excavator, so we have our own Jonny and Casey in the UK      

[@harryfinch4986]

From Shropshire but Whitby is a lovey Coast (:

[@johns17m]

I don’t know what it is, but these are the jobs I love to watch the most! Don’t get me wrong, they are all great - but maybe as a suburban home owner these are the kind of jobs I could do around my house or the neighbor’s. Love it!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@petenolte4192]

Great video!!!! I didn't think there was enough duct tape for Tim to be able to use a shovel LOL😂

[@snapperkc9317]

I thought he was going to dump all in the grass too, Christie! Your tractor made sure everyone’s back lived to see another day!

[@paigetaylor7729]

Woah woah woah! Do my eyes deceive me? Did I see Tim using a SHOVEL? Lol nice to see your new tractor in action!

[@RuralStuff]

This is one my favourite channels especially with your growing collection of nice machines

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for your comment!

[@michealferrell1677]

You guys put on full display what Christian character aught to be like . Thank you from one one believer to another for your continued faithfulness to our Lord .

[@American_Heathen]

“Overkill is so under rated” John “Hannibal” Smith A Team

[@ronmack1767]

Enjoyed the video. The new logo looked good too. Lucy liked to play in the mulch. Y'all take care and God bless.

[@MattKochelJJInaJayco]

As you practice with the 4 in 1 you will find that you can dump like a spreader gate on a dump trailer also. I love my 4 in 1 bucket best think ever.

[@peterkober6758]

Tim Christi and Friends good show it give me some think about when doing work around the place thank you God Bless All PaK

[@ddsgala4405]

That black did pop out a lot better good to see old neighbors. Another good job

[@patrochism7700]

You doing a great job tractor time with Tim you and your wife a great job

[@mikefortune4796]

Hi Tim and Christy wow that black mulch looks far better than the stone nice work

[@bradhill5822]

I have learned over the years is to use heavyweight landscape cloth or heavy cloth that is used for road base. It allows water to seep without any weeds

[@photocontrol]

Johnny 2 did a good job on this project.

[@rakeempeace2991]

I love doing landscape it makes me feel good knowing that I did something beautiful

[@nealtubbs9608]

The 4 and 1 worked great in this episode. Jimmy is a funny guy. I'm surprised he didn't pick up a Johnny after you left. Lol he really does like operating them. I'm curious about how Jimmy liked the new neighbors since you've moved out?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The new neighbors are great folks. We like them too!

[@danielsharon524]

The new neighbors probably don't have NEARLY as cool of toys to play with, lol.

[@charlieronk7909]

I like that you can open the clam bucket when dumping in a trailer. Seems like you can load it higher instead of dumping in. You also can open the clam fully and tilt it down using it to smash down tree branches in a trailer. Also while open tilt the clam and use it to push dirt to the other side of the trailer. Would it work better picking things up like you would with your hand?? Meaning open the clam fully then tilt the bucket down over your object. When you use your hand you don’t keep your thumb flat on the ground and use your fingers to grab something. Just a observation that I’m curious about working.

[@patrochism7700]

What up truck time with Tim.

[@jeffherndon]

Tip on the turning in a tight spot, pull past and back into the 90 degree. It works more like a forklift then. Like backing into a parking space.

[@michaelmactavish1728]

magine if had our demo 171hp m7-171 with M56loader she'll be tight in that back yard but great for a $99,000 tractor love it and love the 99% dagree turning radius

[@eosjoe565]

Don't forklifts typically have rear wheel steering?

[@jeffherndon]

Yes

[@eosjoe565]

@@jeffherndon In my experience running a forklift, the rear wheel steering really helps with getting a load into a tight spot. It's probably why they designed them that way. :-)

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Doing a great job on that Tim.

[@mooman86]

That bucket is pretty slick

[@waltermattson5566]

Another great video. You had good neighbors there. Does Tim try to forget extra shovels?

[@leol1682]

Tim, Christy love the video and it's not to big the John Deer 2038R .like it .

[@michaelmactavish1728]

Leo l we had ademo kubota M7-171 with M56 loader in the back yard doing work its kinda huge big great beast wich my buddy says go bigger or go home lol

[@benjaminstockton3917]

That's cool helping out a friend your awesome Tim you to Christy

[@jarretolsen2771]

When looking at pricing these (used) I can find a low hour 1025 for 15,900 with a loader and belly mower, or a 2032 with the same with around 500 hours for 18,900. It’s hard to not go for the extra when what I really want is something a little bigger.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

500 hours won’t hurt you.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

500 hours won’t hurt you.

[@dand33911]

I've never seen anyone put plastic under mulch before. Won't that hold all the water? I get weeds can grow through landscape fabric, but I would think if you tried to do that on a hill, with a good rain all the mulch would wash right off. Anyway 👍for another good movie.

[@Mike1Hayes]

That's what I was wondering. And I was thinking why isn't anybody calling him on this?

[@treverXJ]

Would love to see a lift capacity test with the 2038r like you did with the 1025r and 3032e.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good idea.

[@danielsharon524]

I think Tim did do that. I saw a clip of it that Goodworks used in a video he did on the 2038R.

[@zsmizzy]

Dear Tim and Christie

[@curtwhite876]

By getting the riprap out of there, of course he meant all that Rock, right? Looks great!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

He said ‘riff-raff ‘. Meaning after Christy and I moved away, things started improving.

[@joshsmith743]

Will you be doing a lift capacity test on the 220R loader?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

So much time, so little to do!! Eventually!

[@mileswilson6724]

Hi Tim great video love all the content keep up good work

[@royscarbrough3589]

Love this channel-blessings to y’all

[@shawnboss5542]

That auto throttle is nice !

[@tylerstanley7775]

Will this work with the new OEM third function that they have moved to behind the fender? The outputs are now below the factory scv and the diverter is behind the fender under the loader control valve. Much better setup IMHO

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Didn’t know anything about that. Sorry.

[@skapur]

I am curious as to why the homeowner used plastic rather than landscape fabric

[@Darrell_Coquillette]

I am too. I would think the mulch will float/wash off the plastic at the first heavy rain.

[@bradhill5822]

I use road base fabric

[@skapur]

brad hill road base fabric is another name for landscape fabric

[@bradhill5822]

Sanjay Kapur there are varying qualities of fabric- road base fabric is a higher quality, while the box store landscape fabric is a lesser quality

[@akbychoice]

Sanjay Kapur road fabric comes in several varieties and all are much heavier than any landscape fabric I’ve ever seen. Some road fabric is about 1/4” thick and looks like wool even though it’s a product from oil.

[@PhatboyHD88]

Hey Tim , open the 4&1 all the way , then tilt it all the way forward so both the front piece and the dozer part are laying Flat if ya get my meaning , then close some curl some close some curl some etcetera,, and it will fill the bucket full that way .. man I wished I lived close to you in a hour I could have you running the 4&1 like a pro...

[@bobspratley6125]

PhatboyHD88 then make video so we all can learn👍

[@timnascimbeni]

I think this was a job for Johnny 5!

[@aarondarling6653]

That plastic will cause problems down the road. He will experience compacted soil that stays too moist under the plastic and he will experience the water washing the mulch off the top.

[@charlieronk7909]

So snow that you’re using the 4-1 bucket more what do you think?? I have limited use for a grapple and really wanted it to work better than your first impression had.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Haven’t used it enough yet to get the hang of it.

[@patrochism7700]

Try Channel 10 miler. John Deere truck that's a 2019 John Deere tractor that you got.

[@cory2146]

Good choice with the black mulch.

[@lodprice2343]

How was it being back in the old neighborhood? The mulch with the stone does look better than the rocks.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Great to come back and visit. Kinda sad. We really liked it there!

[@timkd5vmv583]

This is the first time that I have noticed the hidden cheeseburger in the new logo!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

WooHoo! This was a viewer idea (on Facebook)!

[@jefferywalton8176]

Rocks for mulch, bad trade!

[@johanbos160]

Nice video tim and kristie with big Johnny 💪

[@garylipscomb1347]

If you are in 4WD it doesn't turn as sharp as in 2WD. At least that is the case with my JD compact 3120.

[@floydferguson5366]

Great video!

[@ronandloriwood7847]

The old house is looking good. Ron

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. Good folks got it!

[@pino0820]

Unlock your rear brakes you can turn a slot sharper

[@grantdeisig1360]

I've never seen the new logo enlarged until this video (2:17). I laughed when I saw what you dotted the "i" with! lol

[@williamriley2528]

But bigger is way cooler and way more fun...!

[@patrochism7700]

Trike timer 10 you doing a great job man you and your wife and friend helping out people God is going to bless you with everything you want I hope I get to meet you one of these days you guys going to make me meet you one in days I live in Lexington Mississippi do you live in Kalamazoo Michigan and thank you say you live in Kalamazoo Michigan and Indiana do you live in Gary Indiana or Michael Jackson up from in Jackson 5

[@AnthonyE_73]

Good job guys!!! Nice work!😊

[@allenjackson1371]

Great videos

[@marksleeper3752]

Great vid

[@jeffreyallan2545]

Tim, The rear tires on the 2038R are definitely wider than the rears on the 1025R. However the front tires on the 2038R look to be the same width or even just slightly narrower than the 1025R’s. So you and Cristy are both right! Overall the 2038R will do more damage than Johnny especially when doing loader work.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Larger diameter. So still larger footprint. Make sense?

[@hunterslaptop2166]

I mean you could have changed the way you did this so you dont have to make turns and just drive beside the house like you were doing when you were removing the rock and start laying mulch from the back to front and roll out more plastic after each bucket drop.

[@realbss1]

Just a note : Around 3:00 it appears that the spring for the lock hook of the loader is not where it should be ... Could be dangerous if the locking hook is opening unintentionally ...

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Wow, that is an eagle eye! Yes, the spring was detached. I found it when I removed the loader...got it reattached. Thx!

[@MikeGetsItDone]

I would have liked to have seen this 2038R on that 3 acre yard tilling job you did about a year ago. Just curious how the extra horsepower would have done on that job versus the 1025R.

[@jaredhemming9102]

Running bth tractors what size would you buy if you only were going to buy one? How did you like the new turf tire vrs the R4 tread.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

On 1/2 acre like on this project (my former next door neighbor) I would buy 1025r. The tighter turning radius makes it much easier to maneuver. With more space, I would choose the 2038r. Much more capable machine.

[@jamieheyden7369]

Hi Tim Did you put a diverter kit on jonny2 or is it factory fitted

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Artillian. Same as on 1025r

[@profdave2861]

Tractor Time with Tim is there any specific reason why you chose the diverter valve instead of the third function valve system from WR Long? It’s ironic this came up today as I was at the local JD dealer this afternoon talking about availability of either a diverter or third function valve from Deere (I’m very close to ordering a new 2032R or 2038R). Deere offers a third function valve for the 3, 4, and 5 series, as well as one for the 120R loader found on the 1 series and 2023/25, but NOT for the new Gen 2 series tractors! The dealer assumes they’re working on it but has no time frame... However in the meantime, I want to have either a diverter or 3rd function installed right away as I plan to buy a grapple. Any advice upon one vs the other would be greatly appreciated!

[@cdee6096]

@@profdave2861 I can't speak for Tim, but I own a 2018 2032R. I wish that I would have moved up to the 2038R. They are very similar, but the 38 has more torque and more PTO power than the 32. I am happy with my 2032 overall but the extra power would have made me "more happy." I also have the belly mower which was money not well spent. It works well, but I could have bought a riding mower for less money than the add on. I am adding rear hydraulics soon for tip and tilt for the box scrapper. Either way you will be happy. I also went with turf tires which I really like. I have them filled with fluid for extra ballast.

[@GrampysTractor]

Riff-Raff Ha. But Jimmy knew who to call when there was work to be done. :~)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Wouldn’t have wanted it any other way. His ribbing is well appreciated!

[@meadowviewlawncarellc8079]

Hey Tim is the 2038r a factory diverter kit or is it a true 3rd function?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I have the artillian kit. I believe the Deere kit is a 3rd function. Btw, it doesn’t matter much to me. Johnny 5 (5075e) still uses a diverter ...it is fine.

[@meadowviewlawncarellc8079]

Tractor Time with Tim my tractor has a diverter kit with just one button, I find it harder to use then a true 3rd function with the 4 in 1 bucket. Because it’s impossible to curl and close at the same time. Because you gotta hold the joystick sideways and push the button at the same time. I think you know the style I’m talking about.

[@Nf6xNet]

I love the cheeseburger dotting the "i" in your new logo!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Facebook viewer gave us the idea.

[@stanleyjohnston5876]

That white plastic won't prevent weeds from growing up into the mulch.

[@bradhill5822]

Stanley Johnston ditto I use heavy weight road building cloth.

[@arnolamiroy5383]

Wy did you put the plastic tarp under need the mulch? Can the rain water stil go true?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

What was my role again? Oh yea, power wheelbarrow. I was not on charge of landscape design.

[@mattphillips4260]

johny would shine good for the mulch but the bigger was good for the rock in that case i think i would have done the same thing and went with the bigger tractor i hate being in that boat been dealing with that here with a friend we both want to bush hog and my small tractor looks good in places but his 40 hp tractor and 5 ft hog looks good for the taller weeds and such but stinks at the same time cause it is not easy to get around in some places what do you do in that case

[@jeffreycurrie3410]

Tim had you still owned this house at this point.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No. We had already moved. I think our house had sold by that time.

[@martineastburn3679]

Wonder how the split bucket would work spreading rock down a driveway ? !! #TTWT

[@flat4314]

Hi Tim just was wonding was the 4 in 1 usefull for this job? I will be purchasing either a 1023e or 1025r next spring for the main purpose of installing mulch. I own a lawncare buisness and so far this year me and 1 helped have shoveled, wheelbarrowed, and spread 400 cubic yards of mulch. I'm hoping a little tractor will out alot.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’m not the right guy to ask on the 4-in-1. I have not yet figured it out.

[@patrochism7700]

Tractor time with Tim and you don't hang up friend house and your house looking good try to tell the tale.

[@MattN03]

How do you like those tires Tim? Great video as always. The 4 in 1 bucket is pretty sweet!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’ll give a full review of the tires when I get more experience with them.

[@kwinchronic8953]

Rock removal is one of the worst/hardest jobs in landscaping in my opinion...

[@genedameier8746]

Advice from another channel: "Get the smallest tractor that can do your largest chore. It will also be able to do your smallest chore. ... If you get a larger tractor to easily do your largest chore, it may be too big to do your smallest chore." My decision is between the 1025 and 2025.

[@danielsharon524]

Interesting advice. Trying to decide between a 1025R & 2038R. Problem is I don't know yet what my biggest & smallest projects will be. 1025R seems too small but I may be doing a lot of residential work on smaller (¼-½ acre) lots so a 2038R seems too big. Personally, I don't see the point in a 2025R but I'm sure you have your reasoning. You lose the maneuverability of a 1025R & don't gain much in functionality. I even thought about a 2032R until I saw Tim's video with the New Holland & PTO driven hydraulic power pak which a 2038R PTO would (barely) drive and thought that capability alone made it worth the $ difference. The salesman @ the dealership knows the area I expect to be doing more of the work in & actually recommended a 1025R for what I want to do but the 2038R is only about 8-9" wider in the rear and not that big a difference in turning radius but such a significant difference in capabilities. For my own property a 1025R is already big but the decision really comes down to how many more jobs I could take on with a 2038R that I couldn't with a 1025R vs. how many jobs I couldn't take on because a 2038R is too big.

[@genedameier8746]

@@danielsharon524 , Talk to your dealer about renting (or even loaning you) a 1025 and use it a while, and then try out a 2038, and use it a while to see for yourself the pros and cons of each. This should be the best way to decide. Good Luck, Stay Safe.

[@danielsharon524]

@@genedameier8746 Thanks for the advice - Didn't realize that was even an option.

[@michaelrakowitz9987]

Should used weed Fabric

[@bradhill5822]

Michael Rakowitz yep heavyweight road base fabric, not the stuff from HD

[@jonstuart8352]

How do you like the new tire design. Any issues with traction?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Great traction so far. I’ll talk about this after I have more experience.

[@Tractorguy9000]

you should do a equipment tour

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Whew! Would take too long now. ...and it would put even more focus on our disorganization!

[@Tractorguy9000]

@@TractorTimewithTim okay

[@chris3m98]

Why did they paint over the brick house????

[@jamesdiehl8690]

Tim, would that tooth bar or the scarifiers fit that 2038 4 in 1 bucket?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Not sure, but I think so.

[@jamesdiehl8690]

@@TractorTimewithTim okay! I think that would make it a mean green machine. It already has the power to dig and the teeth would make it aggressive. The size and weight would probably make a good snow plower.

[@PermianBasinDiesel]

What kind of tires are on the 2038R. They aren't R1's or R4's please explain thanks and God bless.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

A little bit of each. They are Radials.

[@patrochism7700]

P try Channel 10 F150. 2018 Ford 250. Get a Ford 250. F-150 250

[@darthvader4hire]

nice Vid as always Tim and Christie; i am curious about the mulch. is it shredded tires or dyed organic mulch? which ever it is it looks really nice an J2 looked like the perfect machine despite the wide turning.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Dyed wood mulch.

[@botabob]

I really like the tires on the 2038 - what are your thoughts about the tires?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I will discuss when I have more experience.

[@petermavus4131]

Mulch better look...but black weed guard material under would have been better...heavy rainstorm gonna float that mulch...poke holes in that plastic......mulch blower truck would have eliminated a lot of tractor time...oops

[@paulcurcio2822]

Hey there I am in the market for a 2038r I have a small Excavating company I currently have a B 2301 Kabota great tractor has never let me down the problem I have is I have a 16 foot low profile dump trailer I am looking for a tractor that I can load from one side if needed my b2301 I have to swap from left and right to get the load in the middle of the trailer was wondering if you could help me out and let me know or even make a video dumping stone dirt etc. into your dump trailer just so I can get a visual I appreciate it and keep keep on making those videos 👍🏼👍🏼

[@TractorTimewithTim]

First, you will love the 2038r. Having said that, the forward reach of the loader is one disadvantage. Kubota loaders stick out further forward from the tractor than the Deere loaders. I cannot load the center of my dump trailer with my 2038r.

[@paulcurcio2822]

Yeah that’s what I was afraid of what do you think a three series would do the job

[@TractorTimewithTim]

3R, yes.

[@paulcurcio2822]

Ok thanks for the info 🚜🚜🚜

[@markpowell4701]

That was a nice video but, I think the dog stold the show. The mulch does look 100% better than the stone in this case...

[@brucealvarez9263]

Was it a bit weird working next door to the old house and not going home to it when the job was done?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes. Difficult. We really loved that house.

[@sweetlou7375]

What 3rd function setup are you running on this tractor?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Artillian.

[@akbychoice]

How many cheeseburgers will that 4 in 1 bucket hold?

[@jasone9]

I may be crazy and certainly lazy, but I would have put the mulch right over the stone. I'm sure the shovel operators wouldn't have argued.

[@Studio23Media]

Jason E If you do it right the first time, it'll be much easier the next time.

[@jasone9]

@@Studio23Media IMO the first hard rain and the mulch is going to get washed right off that plastic. The stones might have helped keep that from happening, but opinions are like backsides... everyone has one.

[@Studio23Media]

Jason E Nah the mulch isn't going anywhere. You're supposed to put plastic down to help keep the weeds out. Though I'm not sure this is the right kind of plastic.

[@jasone9]

@@Studio23Media that was my point. You would use landscape fabric which is permeable to let water drain through it. Plastic will hold the water and in a hard rain will make the water puddle which will make the mulch float, because wood floats, and therefore could wash out, depending on the slope. Obviously it isn't all going to wash out, but will be annoying. Also clear plastic will not stop weeds from growing because it doesn't block the light. That is the purpose of putting a landscape fabric, or even a black plastic down is to block the light so weeds dont germinate and grow. That being said if the mulch is thick enough on top the clear plastic it will block the light and help keep weeds down. Of course after the first year generally the wind has blown enough weed seeds around that the weeds take root in the mulch anyway so back to square one.

[@georgephillips1185]

Wouldn’t it be easier to back inside to unload mulch in tight aeras

[@fredkaminski6138]

Nice! How do you like the new design tires?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Really impressed so far. Holding off for more experience before sharing a more informed review.

[@zsmizzy]

What is the point of this 2 series tractor when it has the same motor and hydraulics

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The 2032/2038r is not at all like the 1025r. Much more horsepower and much stronger hydraulics. Awesome machine.

[@danielsharon524]

You'd be correct wrt a 2025R but the 2032/8R's are a different animal.

[@nathanbrodeur]

Tim I'm guessing that the 2032R would have been a better option if you were offered a chance to test it cause it's a bit narrower than the 2038R

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I don’t believe there is any physical difference between 2032 and 2038

[@nathanbrodeur]

Tractor Time with Tim the 2032R has a minimum width of 47.1 inches and max of 55.6 inches the minimum width of the 2038R is 55.1 inches to a max of 59.9 inches so I would think that it would turn tighter

[@arnaucanto6020]

In fact, the same tractor turns tighter with wider spacing, at least that's my experience with bigger tractors

[@eosjoe565]

Tim is right. The Gen-2 2032R and 2038R are identical in every way except for the engine. Assuming both have the same tires they would both have the same length, width and turning radius.

[@profdave2861]

EOSJOE you’re correct, as is Tim, in comparing the current versions of the 2032R (Gen 2) and 2038R. They are identical other than the engine. The variable widths given in the Deere specs are based on variations with tires AND include wheel spacers in the maximum width numbers. However, the older Gen 1 2032R (2016 and older) is a bit narrower.

[@Masdyl1319]

Hey Tim, do u know anything about Ls Tractors without being biased to John Deere?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Watch ‘Tony’s tractor adventures’ on KZbin. I know Tony. He is a TTWT fan, and has a sponsorship from LS.

[@Masdyl1319]

@@TractorTimewithTim I already subscribed to him. I asked for his input as well. Thank you

[@danielsharon524]

Well, once again your video was ZERO help in deciding between a 1025R and a 2038R, lol. The 2038R seems SO much bigger in comparison but dimensionally it's really not and the capabilities are so much greater. Seriously, you do a GREAT job pointing out the pros/cons of each. Every video I go back and forth. Thanks! Would still love to see a mowing/turning radius test between the two.

[@nickc7320]

I'd say it's easier to deal with a bigger tractor to do a job that would be best for a smaller tractor than a small tractor for a job that just needs more capacity

[@henryrodgers3409]

Seriously why would the home owner put down plastic before the mulch . Plastic is just going to hold water and rot the mulch even faster . Why not use landscaping fabric and let the water go thru . Weird .