Can a John Deere 1025R Lift 1300 Pounds? Mythbusters!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The loader specs came from this page: www.deere.com/en/loaders/front-end-loaders-for-tractors/120r-loader/ It says that the 49" (1250mm) bucket was used. I have the 53" (1350mm) bucket.

[@davidschomp4328]

You forgot the weight of the bucket itself.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No David. The weight of the bucket is included in the spec.

[@subwarpspeed]

So the "a little bit short" of the rated capacity can be attributed to the little bit more material for a wider bucket.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@subwarpspeed who knows. ...or cares really.

[@mrdeereford]

Tractor Time with Tim I was gonna say, don’t forget the bucket!

[@01Brever]

I’m glad you did this. I’m tired of a couple of people putting these little tractors down about the lift capacity. They need the right tool for the job. This little tractor is a lot of bang for the buck in my opinion.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

@ 9:27 Maybe the "magical 59 inch rating" has to do with trailer height, for unloading a tractor trailer combo that delivers goods to your site? We're watching your video to help us figure out how much freight we can unload from a trailer, as we will be hopefully receiving delivery here, at our home, as opposed to dock pickup at the freight company.

[@simonfell7581]

Love my 1025r. I’ve had it balancing on the front axle with a heavy load and was able to move it very slowly and cautiously. Also when doing my driveway I can lift a full mounding bucket of flex base. A 2 or 3 series would be nice but this 1 series is about all I honestly need.

[@indianaoutdoors4379]

The pressure relief valve is constant. The difference is the increased volume made by the pump spinning faster and the relief valve not being able to relieve it quick enough.

[@subwarpspeed]

I was pondering this too and it seems reasonable.

[@indianaoutdoors4379]

@@subwarpspeed That's basic hydrulics. Pumps don't create pressure, they create flow. Pressure is made by the resistance to flow ie the lines, fittings valves and whatever the hydrulics are driving. The relief valve sets a max pressure. It is designed to set the pressure at whatever the standard operating rpm is. Which generally is around 540rpm pto speed or full throttle. Because you lessen the flow at idle. You give up some pressure but tractors are also not designed to work at idle.

[@sideskraft]

Excellent video and good job explaining what NOT to do (driving across rough terrain at speed with a heavy load in the bucket).

[@jeffvaccaro6410]

Finally a video that shows the capability of the loader. Never been able to figure out if it had enough power. I’d be curious to see the difference in the 2025r that has a bit more hydraulic power.

[@TheFarmingLife]

Thanks for the video hope you're having a great day. Are you guys getting snow today. Thanks for taking time out to show the lift capacity of the John Deere tractor.

[@PressShopEng]

I purchased a used 1025r tlb, same year as Johnny 1, with about 400 hrs on the clock. I felt that the hydraulics were a little anemic. After watching some of your vids it definitely needs work. At idle it will barely lift the empty bucket. I can only get 1850 to 1900 psi on the loader port at full throttle. I will repair or replace the relief valve first. If I end up replacing the pump, I am going to compare it to the pump on a 2025r as it would supply approximately 1 more gpm. FYI - the liquid in the gauge is glycerin to dampen the needle because of fluid pulses coming from the pump. The best part of your channel is that your whole family is involved and supportive.

[@herbiebackhoe5593]

Great video TTWT... seems as if this subject could be talked about all day long. I really liked that heavy lift tip you shared if needed, along with the safety issues. Very good !!! Oh to jump onto another subject, I played out in Michigan's cool weather this late afternoon for five hours, pushing snow with the back blade, and loader bucket. My 2025R did fine, but wow those "Edge Tamers" worked great on the bucket !!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Glad to hear the positive report on the edge tamers!

[@trainmaster52]

Thanks for the info Tim. I've been looking at one. Can't do anything until after the first of the year but for what I'm getting it for this is great.

[@nicholascote8362]

You're killing me! The anticipation of your new trailer was what I was hoping the next video was.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Ha! We keep you guessing!

[@nicholascote8362]

Ha yes you guys are good!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Nice video Tim. That is a lot of weight, more than I would have guessed. Backhoes make good ballast weight too.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I doubt the backhoe would have been enough ballast once we started moving with that 1300 lbs. ...but that wasn't the point of the video, so I tried to focus on what was going on in front of the tractor!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

@@TractorTimewithTim Agreed. I just always look at the back end when I know there's lots of weight on the front. Just instinctive I guess, haha! A good visual testament to what the loader is capable of handling.

[@ramchillarege1658]

Incredibly good video. THANKYOU. I am trying to move some freshly cut logs from a white oak with a 20" diameter.. and was wondering what my options are, given that even 8ft sections will be beyond the rated capacity. These are excellent ideas and the demonstration with real numbers helps a lot.

[@SilverCymbal]

Great video Tim, very interesting test and demonstration!

[@johnthorpe1071]

Very good Tim & Christy! I tried to lift my 2048 rotary cutter (516 lbs spec.) with the forks and 1025R started to raise the rear end. Wound up just picking up on the front and letting the rear wheel take the rest. Loaded tires but with backhoe removed. Like you said, GO SLOW!! Thanks as always very informative.

[@dirtyworkdiver]

Great video! Good reminder of what the rating really means and the real world application of the rating. I have 42" forks that I use to move industrial 48x 40 wire baskets of firewood. I really feel lift capacity decline with the use of forks, since my lift is so far off the pin. I think the forks weigh 70 lbs each. That's -140 lbs off the working load, from the get go!

[@daltoncarr8861]

I had the front tires on my 1025R filled. I’m glad I did. It adds a significant amount of weight to the front which makes the tractor handle better with the backhoe on and even when I’m running around with only the mower deck mowing the yard. No squatting tires either.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

30lbs per tire

[@BennyViola]

WOW Tim great video as usual. That trick was wonderful I could have used it last summer when i was trying to move a paver step. I only needed to move it 4' and just couldn't get it without some assistance. I also agree with what you said regarding moving that much weight as I wouldn't move anymore than absolutely required at a very slow speed. Thanks again for sharing!

[@jimdandy7772]

Tim excellent video!!!! I have been reading and watching videos for two machines JD and Kubota This is the BEST video I’ve seen for explaining the bucket measurements and the lifting capacity Thank you !!!!😊

[@Formulabruce]

The Bucket weight is NOT figured into the JD "PIN" spec for capacity. BW14144 ( your 49 inch bucket) is 154 Lbs. If you back up over a 2X4 with the engine at rated and lift lever pulled, you can also gain some clerance. Great Video!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The bucket is figured into the capacity for the 500mm in front of the bucket. I won't argue the 'PIN' spec,as I find that spec totally irrelevant. No one lifts at the pin.

[@vincentrose9060]

Very interesting video. I think I've lifted around 1000lbs with mine too. I'd really like to see you do the same test but with the pallet forks. I think that would be more of what you might see in the real world, pallets of stuff. Like bricks, or masonry blocks

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I wanted to start with the bucket as that is the ‘standard’

[@Formulabruce]

@@TractorTimewithTim list the weight of the bucket ( 154 lbs) as JD lists the lift capacity with , nothing? just the pin and so many inches into thin air? It doesnt detract the weight of the bucket from what I see.

[@Sevalecan]

RE: 5:07 If you look at the pressure relief valve from an engineering perspective, what it's actually doing is starting to bypass fluid starting at a certain pressure. The amount of fluid bypassed will depend on how much it exceeds that threshold (let's say that threshold is 1900 PSI). So if you're pumping more fluid, at high idle, it will need more pressure across that valve to bypass all the extra hydraulic fluid. So you're right, it's technically not constant, but in engineering we approximate those things as being constant. You would need a PI controller to actually control to a constant pressure. Basically it's a form of error correction that eliminates the steady state error through the integrator. Not needed for this case since your max pressure at high idle isn't exceeding any limitations. Even with that, changes in the loading or speed of the engine would result in momentary deviations from that "constant" pressure, so it would never truly be constant. This actually applies to a lot of things, like the electrical grid frequency, or electrical circuit voltage and current. They say it's constant because it's a close enough approximation.

[@rexbarrett1643]

Very good video Tim! I found that the weak link on the 1025R is the small tires on the front axle. I have ruined two tires using a heavy load in the bucket. The tires didn’t blow out, they just separated the rubber from the cords and both times I ended up with bubbled up sidewalls. Just a little FYI. Thanks for the videos.

[@gentile1947]

Great information. I have a 2210 with a very similar lift capacity so all good but like you said gotta be very careful moving with heavy weight on a little tractor. I love my 2210. Great little helper.

[@davem5370]

Tim will be sleeping in barn with Johnny revealing Christy’s weight. Great test Tim. Very easy to understand as usual.

[@RickCarr65]

Very helpful, thank you so much for providing this info. I'm a newbie - my 2025r arrives next week.

[@stevebradley678]

Great video Tim and Christy. Enjoyed it this morning while drinking my coffee. You kept adding weights I got to where I could hardly lift my coffee it was getting heavy. Lol Love you guys!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the chuckle!

[@fredkaminski6138]

The more weights you put into the bucket, the more you were huffing and puffing! Great video!

[@zaphodbeeblebrox6768]

I know firsthand that I can lift a 280 pound 42" fork set and a 960 pound generator just a few inches off the ground, but enough to move it. It involves some trickery, and the bulk of the weight is near the hinge point, but my 1025r does it. Not sure if the 5-gallons of diesel and two batteries are included in the generator specs, but they are also adding to the weight.

[@bernarrcoletta7419]

Thanks. I was thinking that when I retire and get a tractor, I’ll have to be able to lift my Kubota Lowboy generator with its cart. That works out to about 950 pounds. Looks like I’ll have to go up a size or two.

[@KaisKhelif]

Tim, Thanks for the videos. It cleared up all my questions about the lift capacity. I have 5X6 round bales that I need to move around to the pasture and it's only 300 feet away. They weigh around 1200 lbs. I am thinking about getting a quick attach spear and use. Your trick about curl and lift was genius. Do you think I should be able to move them going very slow as I only need to lift them a bit off the ground to move. Thanks

[@jdean830]

wise tip with the heavy load bucket curl trick! thanks. your the man

[@bobcat9501]

Thank you for a practical and clear answer to what I can expect from my new tractor, thus video reinforces my purchase and should fill my needs and expectations

[@kennytipton7358]

Tim, I have a 2013 1025R with an H120 loader and I notice that when the bucket has a load, it leaks down when I want to tilt back before actually starts tilting back. I have been told that a re-generative valve will solve this issue. Your thoughts on the matter. and since you have a newer model, did they address the issue. fill the bucket or forks with weight on it. Then try to tilt up slowly, mine actually goes down until I apply more hydraulic pressure.

[@thomasdesmond2248]

Mine shows "no attachments". However I have an older and larger tractor so perhaps they changed it. Interesting thanks for sharing. God bless

[@henryrodgers3409]

This is the perfect test in the real world . Actually seeing what this tractor will do is better than reading any spec sheet. Thanks

[@TerraFirmaX]

Excellent demo. I have a 3046 rated at 1600 pounds. Of course in real world working applications it doesn’t. And it gets sketchy moving higher weights especially on my construction site as nothing is level. I just do what you said, like BBQ, low and slow.

[@jagx234]

As I'm looking to buy a John Deere of my own this is exactly the kind of thing I was wondering on the lift capacity. if I would be able to move stuff heavier than 500 lbs in my shop or driveway. Thanks for the video! I hope you do a similar video on the 3pt!

[@jc-botaman1077]

Hi Tim, I saw your video at Messick's and have been watching some of your other videos, good stuff. 1025R's are awesome tractors, I owned for several years and did a lot of work with it. I only got rid of it because I wanted to upgrade to a cab tractor (factory cab with A/C), so I went to a B2650 cab like the one you looked at. In your search for a larger tractor I recommend going with a cab, you won't regret it. It will take me awhile to catch up on all your videos, they seem very informative. Oh, and I subscribed.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Welcome! Thanks for joining us. We definitely need a second larger tractor. While a cab would be nice for some of our projects (mowing), I’m afraid it will interfere with our ‘interactive’ video approach. That is why we are skittish.

[@hsmith3844]

I really enjoy the quotes at the end.

[@stanleybroadhead8978]

Good info Tim. I have maxed my 1025r out on several occasions with pallets of flat rock. Sometimes you have to be creative. Stay safe and warm out there.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, the easiest way to be creative is to stack all the items on the 'loader side' of the pallet. Weight out on the end of the pallet will kill the capacity. Put the heavy stuff as close to 'the pin' as possible, right?

[@stanleybroadhead8978]

Tractor Time with Tim You got it!!

[@realpdm]

Just enough to move a big rock or something where you need it. Thanks for sharing the neat trick at the end there.

[@RJ4O4]

perfect timing. just getting ready tomorrow to fill my tires w/ air and was going to put 22psi in the front. didn't even think about needing more with the loader till I saw this video. And so, thank you ! Now my question is...does the back tires need more as well? think the book says 20psi for those (turf tires).

[@TractorTimewithTim]

20 is fine for the rears.

[@skipduld3630]

IV DONE YARD WORK MOVING DIRT ABOUT 4 HOURS OF THAT AND 1/2 OF A BUCKET OF STONE FOR 2 DAYS . THIS WAS TO BUILD A SHED ON CONCRETE. I TOOK MY TIME BECAUSE OF THE LOAD AND IM FROM THE CITY NOT THE FARM. TKS FOR SHARING VERRY INTERESTERING

[@realbss1]

It's really quite amazing what these "little things" can do ... However, as you already mentioned it's an intense amount of stress to the components involved (front axle, loader, bucket, ...) so I completely agree it should be done as an exception. However, one thing I want to mention : At least on the 2R the pressure relief valve is (I guess just a single one here for cost reasons) between the pump and the SCV (selective control valve), as it appears from seeing your "trick" to increase lift capacity it's the same on the 1R. Below the line it means that the parts are protected by the pressure relief valve as long as it's directly pressurized. If you roll the bucket down to lift the loader arms the pressure in the arm lift cylinders drops below the relief value and the loader arm is being raised. If you close the SCV by putting it back to the middle position for that function it just seals (actually it's not really a 100%, all those control valves will have a little internal leakage) the pressure between the valve and the cylinder and by curling back the bucket it will raise above the limit value. Thus it put's more stress to any component involved than planned by the manufacturer ... The front axle could fail by breaking, tires, hoses, control valve, ... So even if there is still some "extra capacity" in all components be careful not to harm yourself or anyone else if you work at or beyond the designed limits of the machine. Note : The increase in pressure between low and high engine RPM is because of the higher flow created by the (gear) pump combined with the viscosity of the used fluid. In other words, with low viscosity oil/cold oil you might see higher pressure compared to warm/high viscosity oil. Downside of forced high flow is cavitation and therefore damage to the components. Basically the same as if you would change the relief pressure on the pressure relief valve (they are adjustable and it's just turning a screw/nut - so be sure you DON'T do it) ... Pressure in the end is a side effect on restricted flow, that's why there is a need of a protection against over pressure (aka presusre relief valve), especially on gear pumps as the pressure would raise to a point where the pump destroys itself (if the engine is not stalled before). Extra Info (text already gets way too long ... :) ) : For example on way more expensive machines, I own a little Takeuchi TB016, the pressure relief valve is between the cylinder and the valve, so the mentioned "trick" does not really work (actually it does a bit but within limits). To be precise there are two pressure relief valves, one between the pump and the control valve(s) and one for critical hydraulic circuits (like the boom cylinder) between the actuator and the valve. The valve protecting the actuator has a slightly higher relief value than the one for the pump. So it's a bit working but not really far as the boom will be automatically lowered if you get to a critical load situation. For larger equipment and different brands it might be different, actually it is at least if it's legal (at least here in Germany) for lifting as it has a self locking and leakage free valve on the critical cylinders that will be automatically unlocked if you pressurize it. You can really see those lock valves from the outside as they are on the cylinders, same on hydraulic 3 point hitch top links. If the hoses attach directly to the cylinders hydraulic ports -> no lock valve, if they attach to some block on the cylinder from where tubes lead to the cylinders port you'll have those locking valves.

[@Malakie]

Also with the gauge that was a prime example and learning lesson on why you NEVER step under a bucket or implement that is raised with hydraulics.. at some point, they come back down. many people have died due to being crushed. Been meaning to ask.. what camera are you all using? I am watching in your full 4K right now and it has a great picture... need a new camera myself.

[@prodriver12345]

A similar tip i do when im loading a bigger bucket on a bigger tractor, is if i cant lift it higher i tip forward ever so slightly then crowd it back quickly and lift and the same time, the momentum of it curling back will allow you to lift higher. Do that a few times and you can get high enough to tip into a trailer or something, although it can get a bit sketchy when up that high!

[@johnscott2600]

Not much difference then the route I was gonna go which is a loader on a John deere 318. Appreciate the very well thought out testing and info on these 1 series tractors

[@houndsmanone4563]

Great illustration, Christy and Tim. Sure is nice to have those weights, huh? Thumbs up 👍

[@MerganzerBoone]

Great. Thank You! I just bought one of these tractors last week.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Congratulations!

[@pushpushlambert8079]

My sister and bro in law have one . I use it . It's an amazing little unit . Price is actually reasonable . Can't beat it .

[@bruceg79ify]

I think you also have to add the weight of the bucket, forks, grapple or what ever you have attached to the loader.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Please read the pinned comment

[@tmbsrtmbsr9859]

Your the "Man" the videos are great and I always learn something this time being adding air to the front tires with the loader attached. I must have missed that somewhere in the manuals.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Apparently I didn’t learn it!!! :-). I usually run about 30psi in mine...I know that is higher than recommended.

[@parkermehlman4551]

That’s a great example of lift capacity’s and how different they are it is very true that it is hard on that front axle especially when moving in 4wd

[@williamhaynes7089]

never thought about the curl assist ... but it worked

[@gdeisig]

Anyone who is saying that the hydraulics are the same strength at idle and full throttle has obviously never used a tractor...lol I notice obvious difference in lifting ability, same as Tim. Remember that the GPM (gallons per minute) flow rate is probably also higher at full throttle, which is probably contributing to the increase in performance. Good job showing that to everyone Tim. (I bought one of those gages from Ken too.)

[@majenness]

Hi Tim Great video. I have a 1025R (2014, a twin of old Johnny 240 hrs) with a 120H FEL I've often wondered what its actual capabilities were. I don't know if there are a great deal of capability difference between the 120R and the 120H but I'm impressed. .

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Not much diffeeence

[@kevinsmiley1783]

I really like the videos that you produce. I think that I watched all them over the past month or so. As a result, I purchased the John Deere 1025r with a few attachments that I think that I can handle. I hope John Deere will send you a little sales commission for people buying tractors as a result of watching your channel 😁. My teenage son I watch the together and we really learned a lot. We are both excited about our new little tractor. We will have to name the tractor soon. Thanks a bunch!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks Kevin! Congratulations on the new tractor!

[@justinshaw5706]

I've moved a stump that I couldn't get but an inch or 2, but was able to get it done! Same thing with a big rock!!

[@t.conner4798]

Very interesting video, thank you. Christy is a very patient lady! 😃

[@nickstark3648]

I'm looking at getting a 1025R this weekend (New 2017 Model, are they the same as the 2019). Still toiling with it vs the BX. Seems like lots of people complain about the lift and curl of the bucket at the same time is not very smooth and people complain the the control layout of the backhoe is not very industry standard like it is on the BX. Thoughts?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

2017 is different than 2018. Check for 260B backhoe. That is the one you want. 2 functions...no issue. You can do it, but not smoothly. Backhoe controls...bunk. There are two standsrds. SAE and ISO. Larger machines have selectors to choose format. Notice none of those nay sayers focused on the auto-connect deck or 3 pt hitch position control, or the 100 lb (25%) more lift capacity.

[@petermavus4131]

Tim you pinned it down with this vid and lifted my knowledge level of this subject

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Happy to provide the ‘dump’ :-). ...continuing with your theme :-)

[@petermavus4131]

HA HA glad your weighed in on my comment

[@73h73373r357]

As an interesting aside, I would postulate that the reason the relief valve appears to open in different places at different engine speeds (read: pump flow rates) has nothing to do with the pressure and everything to do with the flow. When the engine speed is lower, the pump flow is lower, and when the engine speed is higher the pump flow is higher. When the relief valve opens, an orifice is created for fluid to flow through. That orifice is smaller than the line feeding it, so the outlet side will experience a pressure drop and a flow increase, and the inlet side will experience a flow drop and a slight pressure increase. In shorter words, at higher flow rates the relief valve can't "relieve fast enough". You may be able to test this on your machine with a second pressure gauge by teeing into the relief valve outlet. However, just looking at the parts catalog I cannot tell if there is a way to get to the relief valve outlet or not. It may be worth looking into as a fun experiment. You can also do the same experiment with flow meters, just to prove the relationship of flow and pressure across an orifice.

[@CaptBob44]

When I have moved heavy items, around 800 pounds, using the bucket or forks on my 1025R I find my front tires tend to get “squashy” and when driving/ turning the tires roll over the rim making me a bit concerned that I will damage the tires. The tires are the R3 turf tires and I have them inflated to the listed maximum of 22 psi. Have you experienced this and what tire pressure do you run? Are the more aggressive R4 tires tougher?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The loader manual recommend adding another 4 psi. Personally, I usually run mine at 30psi

[@CaptBob44]

Thanks Tim! I guess I never saw that not in the loader manual.

[@tractorboy31]

Ive helped pick up a corner of a car with my JD 520 and 45w loader. At a demo derby a car slipped of its decking boards on a trl. I picked while a few guys rocked the car while another tried to get a board under the tire. When i was 16 the nieghbor was building there house and the truss delivery semi truck got stuck while unloading. The neighbor had used his oliver super 60? or something like ( looks like a ford 800 series) that he said could pull a 3 bottom plow to help the semi in a little bit but broke a previous repaired drawbar mount. I rode my bike and got dad and he came over with the 520 and she dug down a ft and dad repositioned and pulled again and dug about a ft again and got the trk moving again. Yes a down slope yes the trk was helping but the 520 last time i had her on the pony brake i was doing 25-33 hp with and unknown torque rating with the tractor wieghing 6000 lbs ish freed a 40000 lb trk yet the all girl doesnt like taking my flatbed on the road. I hauled a shed and a shelter and 3 bottom plow on my trl. The trl and tractor with or without the plow wieght 13000 (dont remember if had plow on trl for trip when i scaled it all) the tractor slowed down to half speed pulling the worst hill on my trip. You can push your limits but to what extend

[@peterkober6758]

Tim Christi great information did youever try with forks I have lifted heavy things like logs on forks but neve new what they wayed God Bless PaK

[@daved7024]

Thanks Tim for another informative mostly scientific demonstration.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

"Mostly scientific" . ...perhaps that is giving it a bit TOO much credit. Oh well. I think it got the point across!

[@daved7024]

@@TractorTimewithTim Very well done, Thanks

[@texaspecanderosa]

As always--a very informative video. I like it!

[@davescott4742]

BamaGreen1025r my 1025 has just hit the 50 hr. mark, and I am loving it...The little Tractor has always went ,above and beyond, what i expected when I bought it.I really thought it was maybe a glorified lawnmower...lol, I was badly fooled, Moving Dirt, brush hogging, sewer lines, drainage ditches..cleaning land that hadn't been touched in 40 years...It has done more than I ever expected. Of course, with the help TTWT..love what y'all do...great videos, that explains the in's and out's of everyday use ... but i'm still wondering if some kind of cooking spray would help this Alabama Red Clay, slide out of a back hoe bucket.....no where but Bama...."Roll Tide".....

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for watching Dave. I'm convinced the cooking oil for backhoe buckets thing is totally bunk. ...but can't say that in a video for fear of retribution. :-)

[@kencotton4645]

Fun video. I can't believe you risked your marital bliss by asking your wife to give her weight. I hear on the weather channel that temps out your way are getting really low. Maybe you should do your next video from inside the shop. When we had to work in an unheated building, we used a propane heater to take the chill off. Do you have something like that?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Our lighting is TERRIBLE!

[@flick22601]

Thanks for another great video Tim. John Deere rates their lift capacity with a pin on bucket. The Quick Change mechanism adds a few pounds so the spec'd values would be lower with it. I agree with you that you shouldn't push these tractors to their limits. I'm glad that mine can't lift heavy weights to the maximum. Very easy to have it fall over on soft or irregular ground. I believe I saw a KZbin video where a gentleman did just that.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

There is no pin on bucket option anymore. So I believe your info is dated.

[@flick22601]

@@TractorTimewithTim - Probably so. My tractor does have a couple of years on it.

[@alittleofthisandalittleofthat]

We got about same amount of snow wayyyy up here. How was your hydraulic fluid level during this test? Learned something about the curl and lift. Great video. Thanks. :-)

[@markmalone3606]

I have a 200cx loader with bucket forks I've left ed a pellet filled with 700lbs of dirt is lt safe?

[@compacttractortv5074]

This is a really good video Tim Really well explained.

[@shawnboss5542]

You guys are great ! Great video, very interesting. Thanks

[@ElectraRC]

Well done and thank you both.

[@tbrown6559]

My biggest complaint with mine is that the front end easily lifts off the ground when I’m digging or scraping with it. Also, the terf tires are great for moving, which we do a lot of, but nearly useless for cleaning up the barn yard

[@johndeno562]

Great information. Thanks for the video.

[@sergioiannino7228]

Hi do you have any problems with the bucket creeping down after lifting it I have a 1025r 2018 and it does

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I don’t know yet on this one. The 2014 Johnny did leak down, yes

[@royamberg9177]

It's good as far as settling but it does settle I have the new style late 17 model. All hydraulic Systems settle or creap some if you leave it up it will settle over night. Not a problem for normal use

[@allenjackson1371]

one of the best videos all your videos are great this one was just a little greater God Bless

[@georgeclouse5158]

Courious Tim ... did you include the weight of the loader bucket in your lifting calculations?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Read the pinned comment. The loader bucket is included in the spec.

[@floydferguson5366]

Great video!

[@MARKLOCKWOOD2012]

This rings true. Same with truck hauling. When we got back into camping hauling our first fifth wheel rv. The ram 2500 pulled it fine even with over load springs she would ungelate or what I call hulla dance made it very uncomfortable 🥵 being in a seven hour truck roller coaster so we traded up to a one ton3500 haven’t looked back. Find your trucks max tow weight will it be rock steady or bounce going down the road.

[@Korahandherdad]

Awesome, Great video Tim!

[@tjtobin86]

Its an impressive tractor for sure. It's somewhat affordable for the guy with a few acres but doesn't need a full blown cabbed tractor. For me, it works great for moving snow when it piles in 8 foot drifts.

[@thnksno]

You forgot the weight of the bucket. That's not included in the specs. The specs are based upon math +/-

[@TractorTimewithTim]

the doc said that the 1250mm (49" bucket) was used for the spec: www.deere.com/en/loaders/front-end-loaders-for-tractors/120r-loader/ "Bucket used: 1250mm"

[@thnksno]

@@TractorTimewithTim That's the bucket used for the loader, not the lift spec. Lift spec is all based upon rated numbers and a whole bunch of math. They arbitrarily use a a distance 500mm ahead of the pivot. FWIW- I was at auction once and they had those collectible trucks and tractors. I heard this one guy pipe up. Hey, look this one here is One of Five Hundred. He truly thought it was #1 of 500 built. Details, details, detail.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@thnksno Please present a link backing up your point. The link I sent CLEARLY states that the bucket used is the 49" 1250mm bucket.

[@subwarpspeed]

Agree with Tim here. It states a lot about the tractor that was used for the measurement and then the bucket. Tim has a wider bucket, considering that then the numbers are with margin of error in this emperic test. Otherwise it would mean that JD are grossly underrating the capacity. Bigger loaders with general specs for agricultural tractors I guess are calculated given a hydraulic pressure and with no bucket started it is to subtracted from the rated capacity. But JD seems to have presented the real world numbers.

[@thnksno]

@@TractorTimewithTim Tim, it's a play on words. That is the loader bucket provided for the loader, the only one, unless you want it and something different. It's the bucket used for that model loader, for that model tractor. Otherwise they would say specifically that the loader lift specs include the bucket. Not the pin, not 500mm ahead of the pin. I'm mobile now, otherwise I'd provide a link. This is a common marketing confusion among manufacturers. This is why nobody cares about anything other than lifting point at the pin whenever buying equipment.

[@mattjacobus3005]

Great video these compact tractors are little monsters thanks for another great video just wish I had the financial dept. you have so I could get one of them hows Casey doing?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Casey is staying warm :-). Ready for spring!

[@tomoaktree4951]

Hi Tim, How cold are the hydraulics? I don't believe you will have full performance if the fluid and components aren't up to temperature.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I ran the loader up and down for at least a couple of minutes before the test. Definitely not HOT, but not cold either.

[@stoamnyfarms]

I just want to know if it can stack a few round bales, just two high, but can it do it?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

No.

[@jeffingram8279]

Also don’t forget the bucket weight does the speck take that into consideration? If you had forks on there that weighs less you could lift more.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Incorrect. The specs DO include the weight of a 49” bucket.

[@_P0tat07_]

Hey it’s the guys (guy and gal) from messicks channel!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Nah, can't be. They would have said that a green tractor can't lift 15 lbs! :-)

[@gregtaylor4534]

First. Always wanted to do that. How about a video showing what equipment you use to make your videos? Or have you already done that and I just missed it.

[@KiotiCS]

Great job Tim sorry have not been on much with mom getting very sick on thanksgiving then passing away the first of jan just cant get in to them but i am trying too ! but nice video i see old Johnny is up for sale now hope it goes for a good price ! did you get the green dump ? if you did it is a nice one be looking forward to the video on it ! take care and God bless Kioti Curt :-)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’m sorry Curt! I knew you had not been online, but didn’t realize that your mother had passed. I’m sure this is a difficult time for you and the rest of your family. Yes, we got the green dump. We finally have heat....though it is costing us lots of money. We are headed to Europe to see Katriel. Pretty excited about that. Thanks for checking In. Keep your chin up! God will guide us!

[@KiotiCS]

@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim we dont know what really happen she got sick on thanksgiving and they put her in with a urinary tract and blood infection then she got out a week later and then got pneumonia from the hospital we think and whent back in they sent her home christmas eve but we was right back in on christmas then they sent her back to springfiled then they said her hart was bad then her kidneys started to fail so they put her on dialysis but then her o2 was so low then her blood presher dropped 2 time and that was it they say it was to much on her hart ! but hope you have a fun and safe trip to see Katriel hope you are going to take some video !!! LOL and i hope you get your heat all worked out it has been very cold ! but take care ! Curt :-)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We have heat now.

[@questioneverything2152]

Wow, your wife is such good sport. I swear sometimes my JD 4410, 33 Hp lifts more than my Kubota MX5200, 55 Hp. Great video Tim.

[@alexgeorgas334]

Cool video Tim, thanks!!

[@bigwheels6200]

Well Done , Tim & Chrissy , Rob here in south central Pennsylvania

[@justinbourassa9546]

Hey tim..i just bought a gun safe that is 650lbs & have to remove it from the back of my midsize truck this week.I have plenty of rear ballast do i dare try it?..what say u?..& happy thanksgiving!

[@TacoBellCustomerService]

Could the cold temperature affect the hydraulic fluid?

[@oldpackfan]

Bit what is the front axle rated for.

[@PhilGoldblum]

The weight of the bucket would be part of the load... So it's pretty close. Thanks for the video Tim!