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Is the joker really a Villain?

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MovieMayhem

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Unmasking The Joker: Uncovering His Origin Story
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@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
Song- broken wings by chyde movie- batman the killing joke part 2 is up guys kzbin.infoAAPWnQaHLB8 also if you want a video that counters the question i asked watch this:kzbin.infoGKdNFgF6wXc
@user-vp4fr6zh3w
@user-vp4fr6zh3w 10 ай бұрын
not batman the killing joke its joker who laugh
@ColossalReaperN7
@ColossalReaperN7 Жыл бұрын
I love that Joker actually gave a genuine human response instead of a joke or some psychopathic action, really shows that he's not crazy he's just incredibly broken and even under all that trauma he's still just a regular guy with feelings and emotions
@FunTimesOfBoredom
@FunTimesOfBoredom Жыл бұрын
he does give a joke a bit after, and batman kills him
@rose_of_wolves2464
@rose_of_wolves2464 Жыл бұрын
Proof that Joker acts way too crazy to actually be crazy.
@Star10x10
@Star10x10 Жыл бұрын
It's called super sane. He's aware of everything, he's aware that he is in a comic and that nothing matters. He knows he is supposed to be the villain so he plays the part.
@LordThomasPassion
@LordThomasPassion Жыл бұрын
​@@FunTimesOfBoredom you do know that theory is bullshit, right?
@zyluxviper9450
@zyluxviper9450 Жыл бұрын
@@FunTimesOfBoredomBatman doesn’t actually kill him.
@MrEasyNah
@MrEasyNah Жыл бұрын
"Is The Joker really a villain?" Yes. Unequivocally so.
@TheHagenator06
@TheHagenator06 Жыл бұрын
Yeah like how could the question be asked, yeah he got broken, but that doesn't excuse the thousands he's murdered LITERALLY FOR A REACTION
@JustaDislikeButton
@JustaDislikeButton Жыл бұрын
People keep acting like just because a villian has a reason it automatically means they're no longer a villian, no they're just a well written character.
@Iron4tress
@Iron4tress Жыл бұрын
I say he isn’t a villain just some regular guy who had a messed up childhood that left him mentally unhinged and he is taking it all out on the city to cope but he is just some broken guy who had a rough childhood
@sudanemamimikiki1527
@sudanemamimikiki1527 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheHagenator06 also his tragic back story is most likely not even real since joker himself admitted he has no idea if it is real or not and doesn't care either way.
@stare4539
@stare4539 Жыл бұрын
lool
@tommorgan8172
@tommorgan8172 Жыл бұрын
Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill, the only true voice actors of Batman and the Joker.
@sheedj22
@sheedj22 Жыл бұрын
One died one retired
@heidro1005
@heidro1005 Жыл бұрын
​@sheedj22 no, one died and the other is still around doing work. That's not being retired 😆
@tommorgan8172
@tommorgan8172 Жыл бұрын
@@heidro1005 conroy died, Mark Hamill retired from being Joker because Conroy was always the Batman to his Joker.
@sheedj22
@sheedj22 Жыл бұрын
@@heidro1005 What rock you living under???
@sheedj22
@sheedj22 Жыл бұрын
@@tommorgan8172 THANK YOU!! I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY HONORABLE MARK DID THAT THE COMIC WORLD WILL MISS BOTH VOICES IN THOSE SPECIFIC ROLES
@Lacucarachadefuego
@Lacucarachadefuego Жыл бұрын
“Is Joker really a villain” Joker: kills literally millions of people
@brucejohns4932
@brucejohns4932 Жыл бұрын
You didn't get to the best part where he tells the joke about the two men in the insane asylum Edit: damn this is my most liked comment by about 5k
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
Longer than 1 minute, should I make a part two🤷
@RezTheKing
@RezTheKing Жыл бұрын
​@@moviemayhem93 No just post a longer video.
@electroshockgamer2733
@electroshockgamer2733 Жыл бұрын
​@@RezTheKing Not how KZbin Shorts work
@RezTheKing
@RezTheKing Жыл бұрын
@@electroshockgamer2733 yeah its called better editing I have find 2 finds doing the same thing and both got it on a short.
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
@@electroshockgamer2733 ill post a part 2 of just the joke
@darkc1oudrose508
@darkc1oudrose508 Жыл бұрын
When you think about it, this is last time we will ever see this Batman (Kevin) and Joke (Mark) Duo
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
RIP to the true batman
@krabkrabby
@krabkrabby Жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: Batman doesn't kill the Joker in the end. Alan Moore, the writer of "The killing joke" novel, has specifically said it. Stop doing misinformation. Anyway.... In the novel it's even more touching, because Joker looks very depressed, he doesn't even look at Batman while he's talking to him, and it's raining. Also, Joker responds with the jokes about the two crazy guys to explain to Batman that he's afraid to be left behind again, his voice trembles and he starts to laugh and cry at the same. The image is so cool because his tears are mixed with the rain. And he even apologizes to Batman for the cry, covering his eyes with his hand. After that, they start to laugh together and Batman even puts his hands on Joker's arms, like they're two close friends or something. The story ends that way. It's the better novel on Batman and Joker ever written imo. My favorite.
@vatsalsharma4061
@vatsalsharma4061 Жыл бұрын
Some people in comment said in the end they both laughed but joke stopped and Batman continued to laugh basically Batman choked joker
@krabkrabby
@krabkrabby Жыл бұрын
@@vatsalsharma4061 I knew that. Some people are misinformed or they just like to say nonsense. The comic ends with the two guys laughing together while the police arrive to arrest the Joker, and the last image is a close up on the reflex of a light on the wet ground that separates Joker and Batman, the same image in the opening of the novel, and that is a reference to Joker's final joke about the two crazy guys. Also Alan Moore himself (the writer of the novel) has said that he never intended to suggest an aggression in the ending. I don't know why some people say it. They're probably just ignorant or they want to see violence where there isn't.
@vatsalsharma4061
@vatsalsharma4061 Жыл бұрын
@@krabkrabby thanks man 👍
@harshitverma158
@harshitverma158 Жыл бұрын
​@@krabkrabbyWhat's the name of that comic?
@krabkrabby
@krabkrabby Жыл бұрын
@@harshitverma158 "The Killing Joke" By Brian Bolland (drawings) and Alan Moore (writer).
@Sp1d3rCh3f
@Sp1d3rCh3f Жыл бұрын
"if I would have an origin, i'd like it to be multiple choice" -Joker
@flopus7
@flopus7 Жыл бұрын
There is no room to even begin to formulate a "the joker isn't actually a villain" He is THE villain
@isaacschmitt4803
@isaacschmitt4803 Жыл бұрын
That sad, tired response. Like after all that time, after all he's done, there's still someone that wants to help him. But he knows he's beyond help.
@igiczw6315
@igiczw6315 Жыл бұрын
„Is Joker really a villian” he killed millions. Of course he fucking is
@krabkrabby
@krabkrabby Жыл бұрын
You're confusing him with R'as. He killed bazillion of people in 2000 years..
@glycerosfournaris2512
@glycerosfournaris2512 Жыл бұрын
So why do you still allow Obama, Clinton family, soldiers, etc, to be outside of the prison?!
@krabkrabby
@krabkrabby Жыл бұрын
@@glycerosfournaris2512 Good question 🤔
@curtismcpsycho8212
@curtismcpsycho8212 Жыл бұрын
@@glycerosfournaris2512 sorry to be that guy but # 3 is war criminals not soldiers.
@joalter3106
@joalter3106 Жыл бұрын
​@@glycerosfournaris2512 soldiers did nothing wrong
@lugismansion2400
@lugismansion2400 Жыл бұрын
Joker is the definition of one bad day, in some continuities he is straight up evil however in others he is broken
@jesuszavala6051
@jesuszavala6051 Жыл бұрын
Joker: blows up hospitals, schools , orphanages just to get Batman’s attention since he knows he’ll escape and just do it again Fans: he’s not the villain his just Brocken🥺🥺🥺
@Speedy-editss
@Speedy-editss 6 ай бұрын
And to Jason...
@exhooe5067
@exhooe5067 Жыл бұрын
just because he has a sad back story doesn’t change the fact that he’s a villain
@I_shidded_and_farded
@I_shidded_and_farded Жыл бұрын
And it’s not even canon 💀
@Speedy-editss
@Speedy-editss 6 ай бұрын
Fax🎉
@koiDekhoNaa
@koiDekhoNaa Ай бұрын
Fact :- joker made by us not by choice
@shreeharibhavik
@shreeharibhavik Ай бұрын
This Society made joker
@biggusriggus7693
@biggusriggus7693 Жыл бұрын
Killing Joke was such a damn good movie
@smoke8927
@smoke8927 Жыл бұрын
is it the movie name?
@allybradley8103
@allybradley8103 Жыл бұрын
​@@smoke8927 Batman : The Killing Joke
@granny5455
@granny5455 Жыл бұрын
The second half
@Hawkis90
@Hawkis90 11 ай бұрын
The sex with Barbara ruined it.
@the-quiver
@the-quiver 8 ай бұрын
More like the ending was good
@kuro-koma
@kuro-koma Жыл бұрын
What kind of a silly question is that? Yes. Yes, he is a villain.
@_HeIIsing
@_HeIIsing Жыл бұрын
No he’s not bruh he’s just broken
@Kronosfobi
@Kronosfobi Жыл бұрын
@@_HeIIsing So we can call Stalin, Hitler and literally any bad guy ''nah bruh they're just broken/misunderstood'' A man who killed thousands in a heartbeat IS a villain. A man who beat a child for hours with a crowbar and killed him with a bomb IS a villain. A man who brainwashed another child into literal insanity that would scar him for life (Tim) IS a villain. Just because someone has a sob story doesnt make it allright. This mf'er is a villain and someone should've capped him ages ago.
@YenizTheMenace
@YenizTheMenace Жыл бұрын
@@_HeIIsing Joker being broken doesn't mean that he is not a villain
@epicpuddles1138
@epicpuddles1138 Жыл бұрын
He's a villain but in the past he was just a man trying to get by
@donuts1878
@donuts1878 Жыл бұрын
@@_HeIIsing he’s the definition of a villain
@DBD_Studios.
@DBD_Studios. 4 ай бұрын
For everyone saying that he IS a Villain listen to this first: We grew up adoring Heros, But once we're older we start to understand the villains point of view. *You cannot Help others* *If you can't even fix yourself in there*
@themaskedman757
@themaskedman757 Жыл бұрын
This is hand to god the only time I have EVER seen the Joker have a human moment
@inksans9700
@inksans9700 Жыл бұрын
It just ends on one kill the other But when the batman dies ... Joker becomes good realizing what he has done but when the joker dies batman becomes evil ...
@solvemproblerstudios5889
@solvemproblerstudios5889 Жыл бұрын
That’s not true- if someone other than Batman kills Joker, Bruce is usually absolutely fine.
@inksans9700
@inksans9700 Жыл бұрын
@@solvemproblerstudios5889 name 1 time the joker killed batman and did not become sane and bruce killing the joker and not it ending with a war or death of millions
@solvemproblerstudios5889
@solvemproblerstudios5889 Жыл бұрын
@@inksans9700 The Dark Knight Returns, The DCAU, The Burtonverse, Brave and the Bold, and even The Arkhamverse. Batman doesn’t necessarily kill him in all of them, but is still a direct catalyst. He’s also fine in Injustice- though Superman isn’t. Joker has “killed” him and does indeed become normal in “Going Sane” but in the alternate Death in the Family endings, he stays crazy and finds a new foil in Jason Todd. Meanwhile, there’s Batman who laughs as the case where Batman does lose it.
@monsieurlaphant603
@monsieurlaphant603 Жыл бұрын
What's sad is knowing how broken you are that even you know it's too late to be saved by anyone.
@Deadringer-xb5vh
@Deadringer-xb5vh Жыл бұрын
“Is the joker really a villain” man if I made a book about all the fucked up shit the joker has done it would be longer than the dictionary
@jtime314j
@jtime314j Жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as stupid questions. This video's caption:
@josemorales-jq4fx
@josemorales-jq4fx Жыл бұрын
No one is born a villain they’re just people, people who suffered to a breaking point; losing sanity, hope, lose of loved ones, betrayal, saving of another only to be ridiculed, etc or most of the time it is caused by distrust from the closest to u
@jaydenmanak
@jaydenmanak Жыл бұрын
Joker is truly not evil he is just a broken man that was never forgivin that was thrown out.He was forgotten by all the people he loves.He is just a broken broken man❤😢
@fokushigaru1310
@fokushigaru1310 Жыл бұрын
The thing that makes Batman great is the fact he's just as broken as those he fights against and he still keeps fighting.
@krabkrabby
@krabkrabby Жыл бұрын
This is what makes Batman one of the best person in comics!
@brfclan4561
@brfclan4561 Жыл бұрын
considering that he tortured a man for 8 years in the comics for saying that he was lonely and insane, yes i think he is a villian
@WORLD3107
@WORLD3107 Жыл бұрын
Barbara Gordon: THANKS BATMAN, NOW I CAN'T WALK AND BE BATGIRL FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE
@AAAshield
@AAAshield Жыл бұрын
Yes he’s still a villain he literally killed for no reason and killed jason todd
@maryannnettles2143
@maryannnettles2143 Жыл бұрын
Technically it was the fans that killed Jason
@ASS-tb3mq
@ASS-tb3mq Жыл бұрын
It was the fans who voted for Jason to die because he was a trash character
@anothergg2692
@anothergg2692 Жыл бұрын
@@maryannnettles2143 Uh what?
@maryannnettles2143
@maryannnettles2143 Жыл бұрын
@@anothergg2692 Look it up
@AAAshield
@AAAshield Жыл бұрын
Yeah the fans did choose Jason Todd to die but the joker carried it out and I actually don’t think Jason was the best robin but I did like when he became more aggressive
@radical7628
@radical7628 Жыл бұрын
The killing joke and animated batman and harley quinn jokers were just purely amazing. I know harley quinn was a comedy but they managed to make joker still hella funny in it
@croaxidc5503
@croaxidc5503 Жыл бұрын
Bruce wayne got the talk no jutsu in effect
@Speedy-editss
@Speedy-editss 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha😂
@YourLocalRobotGirl
@YourLocalRobotGirl 4 күн бұрын
The way Joker gave a genuine human response hits hard...he normally would respond with a joke or some psychopathic quote...
@Bdawg326
@Bdawg326 Жыл бұрын
You know it’s serious when the joker stops smiling
@snowdeter9450
@snowdeter9450 Жыл бұрын
He's still a villain, but the broken one too
@asherb5134
@asherb5134 Жыл бұрын
R.I.P Kevin Conroy the voice of batman
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
his voice hit different in this scene
@landenlambert5969
@landenlambert5969 9 ай бұрын
"A villain is never born, a villain is made by the society"~Joker
@Apersonyoudontknow13
@Apersonyoudontknow13 5 ай бұрын
I’m actually so happy that most people here aren’t like “joker is just broken, he isn’t a villain” like people know the difference between a good or bad person
@xtremegamerytz
@xtremegamerytz 9 ай бұрын
" Devil was once an angel ............ - Lucifer ...
@earnestpeeplesjr8948
@earnestpeeplesjr8948 Жыл бұрын
This is WHY I blame Batman for Jason Todd, Barbara becoming crippled and the VAST number of people who have been destroyed by Joker...
@Ghastly_mask
@Ghastly_mask 11 ай бұрын
You only become a villain when you’ve been through more than the hero
@ThatKingAlex
@ThatKingAlex Жыл бұрын
Joker is just really broken, that's what made him insane, but he still has a slither of human in him. Although, I do not know if it's possible to bring it out. 😢
@amymizunoluna285
@amymizunoluna285 Жыл бұрын
Arthur Fleck deserves this kind of Batman.
@KailynA368
@KailynA368 Жыл бұрын
Bro joker not only tortured Jason and killed him he shot Barbara and allegedly raped her and Batman at the end is just laughing with him. Like dude
@bambitoelafaki6036
@bambitoelafaki6036 Жыл бұрын
He was laughing to ease his pain. In the end he finally kills the joker
@rose_of_wolves2464
@rose_of_wolves2464 Жыл бұрын
Well, Batman’s kinda broken too
@ASS-tb3mq
@ASS-tb3mq Жыл бұрын
He didn’t rape Barbara where are u getting this information from💀
@georgelapsley2662
@georgelapsley2662 Жыл бұрын
Dude what? Jason was beaten with a crowbar for 30 min and the blown up Where's this rape coming from
@archbishopTL1
@archbishopTL1 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, these are different versions of the characters between multiple series
@TheIrishSicilian
@TheIrishSicilian Жыл бұрын
Actually why haven't they written a Batman reforms the joker and they fight side by side and save the world or some other crazy mission? That would be awesome.
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
I would be a good film but the mainly portray them as a divorced couple
@arandomthingintheabyss2062
@arandomthingintheabyss2062 Жыл бұрын
the only way the joker stops is either batman dies or batman becomes a villain becouse if batman dies or switchs sides so does the joker
@roberthastings5969
@roberthastings5969 Жыл бұрын
​@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 The reason its that way is to convey a simple saying. "Die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". This was actually said by Harvey Dent in one of the Dark Knight films as well.
@arandomthingintheabyss2062
@arandomthingintheabyss2062 Жыл бұрын
@@roberthastings5969 and in jokers case it the opposit sometimes depends on how much he cares about batman
@Tobylake-jt6gu
@Tobylake-jt6gu Жыл бұрын
I mean they did do that in a telltale series
@jamesflowers1295
@jamesflowers1295 Жыл бұрын
"I don't hate you because I'm crazy, I'm crazy because I hate you" Joker
@lucychirchir2625
@lucychirchir2625 Жыл бұрын
A wise man said "it's never too late to change"
@shdoods
@shdoods Жыл бұрын
The sad part is the theory of the fact that the entire comic series actually is just Bruce as an insane patient and his interactions with his doctor, Dr. Joe Ker. His nurse who he has a crush on, but still makes him take his meds, seen as Catwoman. The doctor's assistant, Dr. Harleen Quinzel.
@shamzam3012
@shamzam3012 Жыл бұрын
Villains were once regular people, just depends on the circumstances that brought them to where they are to be what they are known as. to see if they have any humanity left, one has to know how to understand why the person is the way they are, even if things happen a different way, some can give a similar feeling to understand each other.
@springtrap560
@springtrap560 Жыл бұрын
He may be insane beyond helping, but even he can have human moments every once in a while, even with his mind broken.
@aslightlystablefootsoldier9838
@aslightlystablefootsoldier9838 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the last line Joker said wasn’t the Joker. That was Oswald White coming out the madness to tell Batman that it’s not worth looking for forgiveness for a monster like himself.
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
Do you think The Joker and Batman are the same ???
@toxickid6856
@toxickid6856 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the difference is joker has a fear of being alone
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
it's like batman and the joker can't leave each other and actually (in some cases) care for each other
@toxickid6856
@toxickid6856 Жыл бұрын
@@moviemayhem93 yeah they do care each other becauses Batman was friends with him before he was joker and he’s guilty since he made him the joker
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
@@toxickid6856 sometimes I see batman as a villain, but batman would be an amazing villain if he was 😂
@kendi5391
@kendi5391 Жыл бұрын
No, Batman is a self destructive wreck that uses his trauma as violent way to help the city while Joker has commited every crime imaginable while laughing about it.
@IAmNOTTHEBODY
@IAmNOTTHEBODY 11 ай бұрын
"Why should I apologize for the monster I have become? No one ever apologized for making me this way."
@Hydro_squirrel
@Hydro_squirrel Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Kevin Conroy 🕊️ best voice actor
@orgalorgoverlord8766
@orgalorgoverlord8766 Жыл бұрын
too bad batman choked the life out of him at the end, joker keeps getting those heroes to kill...
@ainzmerrychristmas2797
@ainzmerrychristmas2797 Жыл бұрын
seriously ?? I don't remember
@gogetathestrongestfusion
@gogetathestrongestfusion Жыл бұрын
@@ainzmerrychristmas2797it was implied as They are laughing and suddenly jokers stops and you only hear Batman laughing
@Dropzzz_z
@Dropzzz_z Жыл бұрын
They changed it because it was to violent something like that Batman doesn’t kill the joker it just ends in both of them laughing together
@orgalorgoverlord8766
@orgalorgoverlord8766 Жыл бұрын
@@Dropzzz_z they didn't change it, they just didn't show it because the actual comic the movie is based on ends up with batman choking joker besides batman choking joker isn't as violent as joker shooting Barbra Gordon then torturing the commissioner...
@solenyadnapa8191
@solenyadnapa8191 Жыл бұрын
@@ainzmerrychristmas2797 yeah batman realized after the joke there was nothing he could do to change him...he was too far gone..
@Pentefix
@Pentefix Жыл бұрын
The most strongest man isn't the ons who resists... it is the man that accepts it and move on.
@lucashamilton6847
@lucashamilton6847 Жыл бұрын
I remember this, i love the moment they have together at the end
@rexiedisbarro7433
@rexiedisbarro7433 10 ай бұрын
Villians aren’t evil,their heros with broken hearts.
@khandakerhasnain9839
@khandakerhasnain9839 Жыл бұрын
He needed batman more than harlequin
@krabkrabby
@krabkrabby Жыл бұрын
That's for sure.
@Zerobird-fx2xw
@Zerobird-fx2xw Жыл бұрын
I just wished bats would’ve said “It’s never too late. For the both of us”
@levifout60882
@levifout60882 7 ай бұрын
Joker may be a psychopathic killer, but with his backstory, you can't help but feel very bad for him.
@guts1336
@guts1336 Жыл бұрын
He is the villain that was just a broken human being that no body decided to even consider helping…
@zardok11
@zardok11 Жыл бұрын
To answer the title question.. yes, he is a villain.. very few, if any, villains are that way by choice.. That's what makes the joker so scary. He may not have become a villain by choice, but once he got there, he chose to stay there
@TheMobileFoodCritic
@TheMobileFoodCritic Жыл бұрын
By far the best duo of voice actors ever batman Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamel are the best every rest in peace Kevin Conroy 😔
@williamperez4393
@williamperez4393 Жыл бұрын
It feels like recently i really resonate with Joker…it really is insane how much a bad day can really mess with you :(
@thelonggame9166
@thelonggame9166 Жыл бұрын
The really badass part of this interaction is the next set of the dialog. In short, Joker tells a joke that, if you read between the lines, basically says "You can't help me. You're as insane as I am." The Joker is right!
@vincem2320
@vincem2320 Жыл бұрын
The one who responded to Batman was Jack Oswald White, not Joker. One of the very rare moments Joker isn’t Joker, but finally himself. Happened with Martian Manhunter too in comics
@StudMacher96
@StudMacher96 10 ай бұрын
He’s broken. He doesn’t know any other way to try and deal with his trauma. He’s not crazy necessarily but is just absolutely done with life and became a killer and a criminal because it was the only way he knew how to cope with his trauma. It’s the only thing he knew how to do at that point after losing everything. It was like breathing. Like living. He knew he couldn’t turn back because he already lost so much and knew he couldn’t get it back. Crime was the only thing that made joker feel alive. And after he met Batman many times after the Ace Chemicals plant, he realized he couldn’t have turned into the joker without Batman’s actions. So he became obsessed with him. Because in the end, Batman was the one true person who understood joker’s pain of having a bad day that changed his life forever. And he tried to help him till the very end.
@theoseym1368
@theoseym1368 Жыл бұрын
There's a big difference between a monster, and a broken man. A broken man is not a villain, a broken man is a victim of his trauma, and his trauma can go beyond the ability to save him. I saw this in my own step father. Everyone saw him as a monster, but I saw him as broken man who was left behind in the darkness for far too long, and if he'd been helped before the trauma piled upon him, he'd have been able to turn things around, but some dark corners will never see light.
@jaysenbustamante9926
@jaysenbustamante9926 Жыл бұрын
Even though they use him to much you can’t help but feel bad because he wants to help him. We do indeed need a movie where Joker isn’t evil for once
@spectral.1441
@spectral.1441 Жыл бұрын
Even he killed more than 2000 peoples, I don't think he is a villain, I think he had a bad day. 🍷💀
@illmikumikuyou3661
@illmikumikuyou3661 Жыл бұрын
Jason Todd would say otherwise.
@krabkrabby
@krabkrabby Жыл бұрын
​​@@illmikumikuyou3661 A lot of people don't read comics, so I suppose that few people know that Jason Todd killed a man purposely as a Robin (he was like 14 years old), and he killed many criminals in Gotham city. Yes, I remember when he had his bag with like 10 criminal heads in it. The sweet Jason 😂 This happened after he came to life and after he lived to R'as and Talia for some time... But it's also important to say that he was like the kindest Robin ever, until some psycho writer decided to make him a crazy kid out of nowhere. :/
@starpixelproduction7571
@starpixelproduction7571 Жыл бұрын
People* And OMG that skull emoji made your terrible joke (or therefore the lack of an actual one) so much funnier bro I can't stop laughing "💀" 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Ridiculous..
@spectral.1441
@spectral.1441 Жыл бұрын
@@starpixelproduction7571 not as ridiculous as your life. 💀
@ingloriousdonk
@ingloriousdonk Жыл бұрын
Past experience does not excuse choices you make in the future
@Moony2313
@Moony2313 Жыл бұрын
Some people's worst fear is having..one bad...day. becoming something we never wanted, hurting those around us when in reality they want to help but we're so blinded by our own personal pain and sorrows, to the point we forget who we once we're. That happy smiling child we all used to be. God, idk what I'm saying anymore but I guess I'm afraid, afraid of becoming that monster that I've locked away deep in my mind as my mental state slowly deteriorates every passing second, every min every hour. 🌘🌃
@nachoferrari3054
@nachoferrari3054 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is, stop trying to see him as a broken person, he has ONE MILLON of oportunities of redemption, and he decided to kill all of that oportunities, and people who gave it to him, so no, he IS a VILLAIN
@krabkrabby
@krabkrabby Жыл бұрын
To be honest, this is the only true opportunity because Batman never talked to him like that. And he never talk to him like that in other comics. In fact, he answers to him "I want your help but I'm scared that you'll leave me behind somehow, and I'll fail again". That's the meaning of his joke after Batman's speech. Also, Joker didn't killed millions of people. That is R'as al ghul. Joker killed a lot of people like a teue proud serial killer, but he's not a genocidal like R'as. Yes, he's broken. And yes, he's also the villain. Because being the hero means to be broken and to handle the situation for the better. That's what define a hero, while if you're broken and you react with anger and violence, then you became the villain Best villains are both broken and bad. It's because they usually don't see hope. Or they see it only through the main character and that's why they try to be close to him/her constantly.
@Halo_wood
@Halo_wood Жыл бұрын
Even said the best villains are usually the ones with the saddest backstory
@SniperOnSunday
@SniperOnSunday Жыл бұрын
The joke directly after this was the perfect closer to this movie.
@revfivez7069
@revfivez7069 Жыл бұрын
One of the best performance of Hamill and Conroy
@koopaking6148
@koopaking6148 Жыл бұрын
The killing joke did a really good job of humanizing the joker...
@dekaritheprofessor2631
@dekaritheprofessor2631 Жыл бұрын
Yes Joker is a villain and No Bruce and him are not the same. Joker is a man who chooses to hurt others out of sheer pleasure while Bruce is a man who chooses to help others out of the good of his heart. They both made the choice to be who they are🤷🏿‍♂️
@DarkAtuki
@DarkAtuki Жыл бұрын
Joker never intended to be a villain his backstory is sad but for him to admit that it’s too late for him to get help without fighting or hurting him
@heidro1005
@heidro1005 Жыл бұрын
That's not really why batman does what he does 😆. Have you not read or seen any batman comics/movies/shows???
@dekaritheprofessor2631
@dekaritheprofessor2631 Жыл бұрын
@@heidro1005 Yuuuup! How about you😁
@heidro1005
@heidro1005 Жыл бұрын
@dekaritheprofessor2631 judging by your comments you have not seen or read a single thing about batman. Keep pretending though 😆
@dekaritheprofessor2631
@dekaritheprofessor2631 Жыл бұрын
@@heidro1005 Well then explain how i'm wrong🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️
@peterbutler1232
@peterbutler1232 11 ай бұрын
I love how after everything batman still tries to help joker.
@Rogue_Death_Angel
@Rogue_Death_Angel Жыл бұрын
"All i have are negative thoughts" - the joker
@enzonouniversogeek2549
@enzonouniversogeek2549 Жыл бұрын
Honestly...asking If Joker was really a villain is like asking If Hitler was really that bad
@ilikefood4935
@ilikefood4935 Жыл бұрын
“The difference between heroes and villains is how they respond to pain”-Somebody who i cant remember
@Paragonscales
@Paragonscales 7 ай бұрын
Not a villain, a broken man....
@relaxtube9670
@relaxtube9670 Жыл бұрын
The fact that he calmly said no is the most scariest shit in my opinion
@Drew-The-Philosopher
@Drew-The-Philosopher Жыл бұрын
The more I age the more I realize how these two are both sides of the same coin…
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
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@wesleyisolo
@wesleyisolo Жыл бұрын
Batman the Killing Joke was THE movie, if u haven't seen it ur not a true DC fan but all of this is from the OG series of the comics
@Fazmemes357
@Fazmemes357 8 ай бұрын
“Is the joker even a villain?” The over 2,000 kill count he has with just his favorite knife alone not including all of his other murders with his many types of guns, clubs, other knives, swords, brass knuckles, and at least a few hundred more
@techmaster9781
@techmaster9781 Жыл бұрын
Is the joker a villain? Is batman's shit brown?
@The_Watcher_0
@The_Watcher_0 Жыл бұрын
Plot twist, he shits oranges
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
Nah what 😂
@dew_DROOP
@dew_DROOP Жыл бұрын
I mean bat man shits bats
@techmaster9781
@techmaster9781 Жыл бұрын
@@dew_DROOP just like a bat would
@ImAHamsterDude
@ImAHamsterDude Жыл бұрын
My guy I shifted green before.. What I'm saying is there's a possibility for anything
@airlinghaaland8150
@airlinghaaland8150 Жыл бұрын
We really need a animated movie where joker actually becomes good
@jammydodger8597
@jammydodger8597 Жыл бұрын
Its too late for that, kevin conroy’s gone. The Batman is gone
@jaimej110
@jaimej110 Жыл бұрын
I think the joke afterwards really tells the jokers mindset
@blackholechan1770
@blackholechan1770 Жыл бұрын
There is no true evil it’s only sanity and insanity
@marvelousedits692
@marvelousedits692 Жыл бұрын
For 20 years Kevin’s voice has been apart of my life. Anytime I read dc that involves Batman I hear him saying Bruce’s lines in the comic. It makes me sad now whenever I hear him. We miss you, Kevin.
@slimjxnior5177
@slimjxnior5177 6 ай бұрын
The was this episode i once watched batman was sent in a parallel dimension were heroes are Villains and villains are heroes and in that dimension he worked with a joker that has it all figured out a joker that chose to be a hero❤🤞🔥
@Lancer_slayer4569
@Lancer_slayer4569 Жыл бұрын
Bro joker understands what he did and knows he can’t be redeemed
@NightZen123
@NightZen123 Жыл бұрын
RIP Kevin Conroy
@phoenyx.21
@phoenyx.21 Жыл бұрын
The fact that he gave a normal but broken-sounding response instead of a joke
@bruce_wayne86
@bruce_wayne86 Жыл бұрын
I love u Joker❤️
@johnward2101
@johnward2101 Жыл бұрын
A war between two sides can only end one way or the other, perhaps they'll kill each other, perhaps one will kill the other. This is proven to be the inevitable outcome between the two in various universes, dark knight returns, batman endgame, joker 80th anniversary special.
@jammydodger8597
@jammydodger8597 Жыл бұрын
Its beautiful, seeing a humane response coming from the joker, its not scary, its calming, relaxing. Its peaceful
@moviemayhem93
@moviemayhem93 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, gives a different perspective to him
@taylorfillmore9227
@taylorfillmore9227 Жыл бұрын
It made me have to shit
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