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@johnword477510 ай бұрын
Inspiration is in the words A lot of folks say that a translation can’t be inspired. They say that only the original languages are inspired or that only the original manuscripts were inspired. (They are no longer with us). Scripture does not support this view. Many folks say that saying a translation is inspired is “double inspiration”’ That is a false statement as preservation KEEPS the inspiration and as such is not “double inspiration”. Here are examples of translations in the Greek and Hebrew texts. 1. Joseph spoke to his brothers through an interpreter. He spoke Egyptian yet it was recorded in Hebrew. Genesis 42:23. 2. Jesus spoke to Saul on the road to Damascus in the Hebrew tongue yet it was recorded in Koine Greek. Acts 26:14 This last one is problematic for those who say translations can’t be inspired as we know everything Jesus says is inspired and we know what Jesus said was recorded in Koine Greek and this was a translation of what Jesus said. These folks don’t see the error of their view when they say “original languages only” in this instance as they original language Jesus spoke in Acts 26:14 was Hebrew not Koine Greek. Yet they say that “the Greek” is inspired even though it is a translation. The issue is what is inspired. Scripture tells us it is the words that are inspired. 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Notice is says all scripture IS given by inspiration of God not was given by inspiration of God (the originals are no longer with us). Scripture is given by written words and therefore that is where the inspiration lies. God promised to preserve His words: Psalms 12:6-7 6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Matthew 24:35, Mark 13:31, Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. God’s words are pure words (without admixture of error). Proverbs 30:5-6 5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. We need every word God gave us. Deuteronomy 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live. Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. God gave warnings about messing with His words. Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Proverbs 30:5-6 5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. Revelation 22:18-19 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. I believe by faith that God preserved His words perfectly in English in the KJB. That means that I believe that if God had given the originals in English they would read EXACTLY as the KJB. I have all the words God gave. They are in English in the KJB today.
@preacherman901810 ай бұрын
I wonder if he teaches in any Bible college? I have not heard this kind of clarification coming from HA or any other for that matter back in my youth. Riplinger and Ruckman were teaching heresy before I was on the scene, of course , but out of dozens of preachers I thought at least one FB would speak this kind of clarity in our churches. There was great preaching, of course. We would duplicate tapes and go hear brother Hyles at least once a year. Not.aking light of that. No doubt the internet has been helpful for exposing us to men like this brother.
@TONY1902196510 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation 👏👍Praise The Lord!
@KingjamesAV161110 ай бұрын
Ruckman was 10xs the Bible teacher as anyone at HA.... 😂
@preacherman901810 ай бұрын
@@KingjamesAV1611 I won't defend all of the teachers at Hyles Anderson College. Because of a few of them that I was aware of, I decided to not enroll. What did Peter Ruckman teach that must one do to be saved?
@scooterp70099 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@poolahpotАй бұрын
So, the kjbrc does not believe that the kjb was inspired??? they(kjbrc) are in the camp of "in the original writings" group??? oh boy! 🥺😢😬
@JohnathanBach10 ай бұрын
I disagree that 2 Tim 3:16 is entirely about how God originally gave the scriptures. “All scripture is given…” not “was given” Inspiration literally means “spirit in”. The words of Jesus are “spirit, and they are life” The breath of God is in the pages of scripture. A text properly translated carries with it the life and life-giving power of its Author. Modern versions are powerless in the sense that they have removed the “breath of God” by inserting meaning for the words. “There is a spirit in man, and the inspiration of the most High giveth them understanding.”
@Micah4_1210 ай бұрын
Amen, there’s that first mention used correctly.
@JohnathanBach10 ай бұрын
@@Micah4_12Courtesy of Dr Bill Grady for pointing that out for me in his book.
@KingjamesAV161110 ай бұрын
@@JohnathanBach.....bill Grady is a smart man.....and was a friend of Dr. Ruckman 😊
@boldasalion643610 ай бұрын
Link to the original? Need more of this please! May God continue to bless this channel & all real bible believers.
@kjbrc10 ай бұрын
Here you go! Dr Gary Mann The Reasons Translations Are Not Inspired kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXKypoWmerGAhZY
@boldasalion643610 ай бұрын
@@kjbrc ~ Thank you so much! :)
@TONY1902196510 ай бұрын
@@boldasalion6436 I've got a copy of the Scriptures, and according to 2 Timothy 3:16 it is given by inspiration. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" 2 Timothy 3:16 So now my King James Bible is not The Scriptures? This is the fruit of "scholarship worship" in action. And it is *HYPOCRISY!* And the path to *APOSTASY.*
@user-wk1li2cm5o4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Can you add a transcript link? Thank you.
@vinsonhelton714110 ай бұрын
The Word of God is not a language, it is what God thinks and believes in his heart. It is this exact and perfect information that must be written down in any language to convey this.
@TONY1902196510 ай бұрын
Scripture, Bible reference: book, chapter, and verse, please? Btw, "Word" with the uppercase "W" references The Lord Jesus Christ, i.e., John 1:14, 1 John 1:1, & 1 John 5:7. While "word" with the lowercase "w" references thse Scripture, i.e., Palm 119:105, Mark 7:3, & Romans 10:17. The more you know...
@vinsonhelton714110 ай бұрын
Hi Tony I believe this in part because of people hearing the Word of God at the Day of Pentecost event in the book of Acts and By God instituting the languages at the tower of Babel event. Also God spoke to Pharoah and other world leaders prophecies, which by default is the Word of God. Jesus Christ to me is indistinguishable from the written word apart from ink and the fact that Jesusis in the flesh. What God wills to convey to us in the form of information can be expressed by God in various forms even ones and zeros that computers use. Our phone gets the Bible in one's and zeroes and translates it to a language we understand. It's the information in whatever form that comes to us to understand that it is the perfect truth of God's will and the information is EXACTLY the same in every case.
@TONY1902196510 ай бұрын
@vinsonhelton7141 Well, that sounds nice. However, you are incorrect, and the events mentioned have nothing to do with your misguided approach to the Biblical references to scriptures and to The Lord Jesus Christ. While The Book and The Lord Jesus Christ are almost indistinguishable in character, there is true distinction between the written word and the Word incarnate in the pages of Holy Writt. Even The Lord Jesus Christ Himself makes the distinction between Himself and His words: "[62]What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? [63]It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." John 6:62-63 And it was John the beloved disciple under the inspiration of The Holy Spirit that penned, "[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2]The same was in the beginning with God. [3]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1:1-3 And, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14 And, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7 And, "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." Revelation 19:13 It is most likely that the difficulty you seem to have with this very self-evident truth has more to do with your faith in scholarship being greater than your faith in God and His written word. This misappropriated faith eventually leads to one becoming one's own "Bible scholar" capable of reading Hebrew, Syriac, and Koine Greek and coming to some of your own conclusions about scripture. Because, let's face the truth, eventually every student has to make his own discovery after the realization that your "scholarship worshipping" writer/guide has his own biases that you just don't like or agree with. So you set out to come to your own conclusions, but there is a fatal flaw in this self-imposed authority; "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." Proverbs 14:12 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools," Romans 1:22 Either God's word is the final authority, or you are. Take your pick. But have no fear, either position has its own consequences. May God be merciful unto and grant you the grace to simply believe Him at His word.
@stanhalen24710 ай бұрын
@@TONY19021965 God told Moses to speak to Pharoah; he said he would teach Moses' mouth to speak- Ex.4:12,15.When Moses spake to Pharoah, did he speak in Egyptian or Hebrew? When Moses penned Exodus, was it in Egyptian or Hebrew? When Jesus spoke to Paul from heaven on road to Damascus, in what tongue did he speak? In what language was the encounter written? Which words were inspired? Which words were not?
@TONY1902196510 ай бұрын
@stanhalen247 Okay. Why are you directing this statement to me? Btw,the translation always trumps the "original." "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:" Colossians 1:13 "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God." Hebrews 11:5 If God had not guided the King James translators to translate The Hebrew/Syriac Scriptures into English, only the Jewish people, which is less than 1% of the world's population, would have the O.T. It would be worse for the New Testament because virtually no one communicates in Koine Greek, which is different than modern Greek. But God, in His infinite wisdom and mercy, saw fit to give us His word in the predominant language of the world in these last days, English, perfected, preserved, and given by inspiration in The Authorized King James Bible Conformable To The Edition Of 1611 A.D. I'm not sure if this reply answers or clears up my position, but I sincerely hope that it encourages you. God speed. Btw, nice Hymns song list. I love the old Hymns because they just seem to focus the mind and heart more directly on The Lord Jesus Christ. They minister to the soul and not the flesh. Praise God, and thank you. God speed.
@biblebeliever27959 ай бұрын
Wrong. Inspiration is not limited to the original autographs only. If that were the case, it would mean the Bible we have today is not inspired. Inspiration is a reference the words themselves. The words are inspired or God-breathed. The KJB is the word of God and therefore inspired.
@tanner777910 ай бұрын
I appreciate the KJBRC but they are dead wrong on this one!
@hermonymusofsparta9 ай бұрын
@@jonpaia51112 Tim 3:16, the verse this man openly denied (in English and Greek)
@PastorScottIngram10 ай бұрын
Amen brother! Praise God!
@JohnathanBach10 ай бұрын
My question then, is specifically, which individual Greek / Hebrew texts that fully comprise the perfect word of God before 1611?
@TONY1902196510 ай бұрын
And why would it matter now in 2023, unless you're still trying to find God's word. But I don't believe that is where you're going. Right?
@JohnathanBach10 ай бұрын
@@TONY19021965 It’s responding to what the gentleman addressed. He answered with a rhetorical question instead of the substance. If he is positing that there were perfect extant Greek / Hebrew manuscripts in every century, I’d like to know which specifically he is speaking of. It is likely that the first time we ever had the perfect, preserved word of God generally accessible and in one volume was the Authorized Version. Is there a problem saying that?
@ChocolateHabanero2210 ай бұрын
Hebrew Masoretic text and Textus Receptus. Same texts that the AV translators used. Case closed. My question for you; do you agree with the textual critics and deny preservation? Do you belive Psalm 12? Or is it an allegory?
@JohnathanBach10 ай бұрын
@@ChocolateHabanero22 Which specific extant manuscripts?
@TONY1902196510 ай бұрын
@@JohnathanBach No problem at all! As a matter of fact it's spot-on! But the man making the presentation is merely a T.R. scholarship worshipper, and definitely not a genuine King James Bible believer.
@russhall18729 күн бұрын
Guy needs to find Psalms 12 and learn about perfection. 7th language and 7 th edition
@hermonymusofsparta10 ай бұрын
This man will stand up in a church and preach the "word of God" and refer to the KJB he uses as such and here he admits its not scripture. "*All* scripture is given by inspiration" If it's not inspired it's not scripture. He corrects the KJB with a book he can't read (Koine NT) and a language he doesn't understand (Greek).
@Delsha77710 ай бұрын
I agree. Thanks for the confirmation.
@AVKingJamesBible10 ай бұрын
Amen!
@HeavyMetalRuinedMyLife1971a10 ай бұрын
KZbin channel.... Truth is Christ.
@kathleenking4710 ай бұрын
Hes GREAT🤗 If i didnt see the numerics, i couldnt believe it Like the word LORD 1,769 times Genesis 1-Deuteronomy 34 And 1,611 times from Exodus 1-Deuteronomy 34 A trip With KJV PURE BIBLE SOFTWARE Book of ACTS is the 44th book
@kathleenking4710 ай бұрын
I think after 1769, technology accelerated. The steam engine was invented in the late 1700s Then TELEGRAPH, LIGHTBULB. and now SMARTPHONE
@scooterp70099 ай бұрын
Amen.
@GoaltoGo10 ай бұрын
I wish it would have been mentioned that the original King James 16:11 version had a letter to the readers basically informing them that errors may be made in the translation process...
@stanhalen24710 ай бұрын
Prove it. I Thess. 5:21
@GoaltoGo10 ай бұрын
@@stanhalen247 sure. Buy yourself an original 1611 and see
@hermonymusofsparta10 ай бұрын
This guy just learned about a word being in a certain tense and he's correcting the work of 50+ men who were fluent in Greek and discussed the proper translation of the Greek *in Greek*. If you're not fluent you shouldn't be talking about translation into *any language* . A teenager in Greece today who is fluent in Greek can pick up and read a Koine Greek NT and understand it 100x more than this man. He doesn't even understand what he's talking about clearly because passive tense does not mean "it's not going on now". Active: I'm doing my homework Passive: My homework is being done.
@risermoreriser423713 күн бұрын
Got to love KJVOist declaring that Latin is required to understand the KJV uses of the word "inspiration".... How disconnected are these people from their own words? KJVOist deny the necessity of all Latin Bibles..... Can you at least admit your own biases?
@hermonymusofsparta10 ай бұрын
This guy thinks "passive" is the same as "past" smh
@tbneddy92163 ай бұрын
The sayings of this man are faithless and foolish. The King James Bible IS inspired. Inspiration is ACTIVE in 2 Timothy 3:16. All Scripture IS given by inspiration of God, not "WAS" given in original languages and died with koine Greek and Biblical Hebrew. Wherever the pure and perfect word of God is, there is inspiration. Were Peter's words on Pentecost in Acts 2 not inspired because they were translated by the Holy Ghost into many languages unto the understanding and salvation of 3,000 souls? Did the teaching and words of Jesus become UNinspired because His apostles recorded them by translating them into Koine Greek instead of the Hebrew in which Christ taught? Apostasy in the churches is not found only in charismaticism, ecumenism, emergent philosophy, new age influences, and the unification of various denominations with Rome. It is found in faithless "pastors" who claim to trust in the King James Bible but in truth deny that the word of God IS living and powerful because it IS inspired whithersoever it has been faithfully and perfectly translated as it was in 1611. I believe that the King James Bible is not alone the perfect word of God, but that it is in truth the INSPIRED word of God. For if it is not inspired, how then can one claim to believe it is perfect? Reject such preachers as these whose desire for scholarly acceptance has blinded them to the word of God and where it may be found. "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God" 1 Corinthians 3:19 "For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it IS in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe" 1 Thessalonians 2:13 "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." Romans 3:4 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." John 6:63
@hermonymusofsparta10 ай бұрын
"Go back to the Greek word" then this preacher goes back and uses the fake, made up Erasmian pronunciation. This guy doesn't get up in the morning and read his Bible in Greek I assure you, nor can he. He knows very little and uses it to correct the word of God. Inspiration never refers to just the original and the word "scripture" never refers to just the original in the Bible.
@TheCableStrain10 ай бұрын
Indeed, and I agree.
@ChocolateHabanero2210 ай бұрын
You and him actually agree on the same thing. I agree with you as well. This man is attacking Dr. Ruckmans reinterpretation of the word inspiration, I didn't hear him say the KJB isn't inspired, as in it RETAINS the inspiration of the originals. He didn't fully flesh out what he said, I believe. If I were to ask him I think he would make that more clear. You are correct, the words of God aren't locked to a single language. And I do not believe that either. The words are in many languages now, and have been over the millenia.
@hermonymusofsparta10 ай бұрын
@@ChocolateHabanero22No we do not. Inspiration is ongoing. That's what the verse says in Greek and in English. This man's trouble is faith. He doesn't believe what the verse plainly says which is why he trys to argue it's in the past. The verb is in the present tense. The only reason you would think inspiration is a one time event is if you ignore every reference to the word "scripture" and inspiration in the Bible because it very clearly is not and translations are inspired and all throughout both testaments. This man has a Textus Receptus but the mindset of an Alexandrian critic. In doing this he just shows he doesn't know what he's talking about at all. The Greek word is present tense but is in the passive voice. Passive voice is not the past tense in either language.
@scooterp70099 ай бұрын
Amen.
@bislig2alabama9 ай бұрын
The WORD inspires the believer of the WORD! If the reader is not a believer, then there is no inspiration. Think about that. A non-believer can not be inspired because the word is just foolishness. Think about that. I think I was inspired by that thought when I read the word.
@biblebeliever27959 ай бұрын
NOWHERE in the Bible does it tell us to go back to "the Greek". That is man-made doctrine. God wants us to have the Bible in our own language, not study a dead language which no one speaks.
@christopherskipp15252 ай бұрын
No, it wasn't inspired in the least.
@stanhalen2479 ай бұрын
This guy speaks Greek. Wish I could too so that I could truly understand the Bible.
@scooterp70099 ай бұрын
But you have a inspired and preserved 100% perfect Bible in English. Make it your final authority, believe every word, and you will understand it.
@hermonymusofsparta6 ай бұрын
No, he doesn't
@scooterp70096 ай бұрын
@@hermonymusofsparta Well get him a King James Bible then!!!
@hermonymusofsparta4 ай бұрын
@@scooterp7009Oh he has one, he just doesn't believe it
@gleon160210 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head
@ctakiute10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Holly spirit is exactly the translation os divine inspiration, therefore there is no tied person of godhead. Jesus is the son of God, and he gave us his spirit.
@JPH488610 ай бұрын
I have numerous proofs that the KJB verses are inspired, all 31,102 of them. Thanks for the video ^ In case you wanted/cared to know a small part of one example I have: Do you have a proper/accurate word search program? Type exactly "in", if your program is accurate it must include UPPER and LOWER CASE. There are 12,338 lower case, and 336 upper case. You should get 12,674. Type exactly "earth"........................................ it must specify LOWER CASE. You get 985 (If you get 987, it’s because of the EARTH in revelation, and Earth in Genesis). Type exactly "the"........................................... it must include UPPER and LOWER CASE. There are 17 with ALL CAPS, 62,173 lower case, and 1,851 upper case. You should get 64,041. Type exactly “Amen”……………………………it must specify UPPER CASE. You get 77. (If you get 78, it’s because of the lower case amen in Numbers 5:22). Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21 are the verses where these four words come from. This is proof verses are inspired. Every phone has a calculator. YOU SHOULD GET 77,777. If your search program can specify what books of the bible you can search, specify only Genesis and Revelation: Type exactly “in” your program must include UPPER and LOWER CASE. You should get 767. (There are 754 lower case, and 13 upper case, in Genesis and Revelation). Type exactly “amen” or “Amen”, there are no lower case amen in Genesis or Revelation. If you doubt God's word as I did, download King James Pure Bible Search and do this simple word search. ●●● Jesus is our Amen. Jesus is in the earth. We are in the Amen. Revelation 3:14
@stanhalen24710 ай бұрын
Thank You. Excellent. Add up all the vowels in Gen 1:1 and Rev 22:21; 17. Add up all the consonants in the two verses: 27 No other version can do this. Now compare to vowels/ consonants of I John 5:7; 34 (2x17) and 54 (2x27). No other version can do this. Amen.
@nateholmes17769 ай бұрын
The numeric stuff isn’t in scripture and wreaks of mysticism which is satanic.
@stanhalen2479 ай бұрын
@@nateholmes1776 lol it literally is in the scripture count the words and letters 😂😂
@nateholmes17769 ай бұрын
Which verse are you referring to? I am fairly sure that in context the word "Count" does not mean add them up, but to rely on them. @@stanhalen247
@stanhalen2479 ай бұрын
@@nateholmes1776 Job 31:4 - Doth not he see my ways, and count all my steps?
@jacoblaw353410 ай бұрын
If you would; the bible isn't a translation at all, it's the very bible once delivered to the saints during the first thousand years of the millennial rule, we are in the little season, Revelations 20:1-10.