Is The LRT Singapore's Biggest Transport Failure? | What The Fact Ep 3

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@OGS.Official
@OGS.Official 28 күн бұрын
Note: There was a typo in Dr. Walter Theseira's name at around 4:05. We sincerely apologise for this oversight.
@RailFilmmakingSG
@RailFilmmakingSG Ай бұрын
Actually it's important to note that by most international definitions, our LRT isn't really a proper light rail, but rather an automated people mover system, and such a system needs to be well integrated into the town's planning to reduce access penalty. It may also be because of this "upselling" of this APM as a light rail that maybe set the expectations too high and leads to disappointment when it doesn't deliver the efficiency. The real litmus test for a proper light rail in SG is when the Jurong Region Line comes later in the decade.
@kimxgamer
@kimxgamer Ай бұрын
LRTs by right are supposed to be on the ground level. I don't get why they used the word LRT to name their system when it's clearly an automated people mover...
@MakLim-w7c
@MakLim-w7c Ай бұрын
​@@kimxgamer well I Search it up and is does not necessary need to be on ground level , it can me a light metro or a tram Anything that has a light capacity and has rail except the people mover
@PrograError
@PrograError Ай бұрын
@@kimxgamer that's just the norm, not the exception. LRT can be anything, that's not heavy rail like, even the Chinese ART can be considered one if one would want to stretch it far. -------- TBH all the newer line can be considered an LRT due to its planning size of it being a “medium capacity rail line”, except for the CRL which is designed like the NSEWL.
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican Ай бұрын
Yeah, as briefly mentioned, in addition to the fact the area around the Bukit Panjang LRT was built before the system, there's also the fact that Bukit Panjang is hilly (for fellow non-Singaporeans reading this, Bukit Panjang means "long hill" in Malay, and nearby Bukit Timah Hill is the highest natural peak in Singapore at 164 meters/538 feet above sea level), so terrain combined with having to navigate around existing residential structures and roads, and your result is a rollercoaster. For a peoplemover meant for airports...not a good design. Then there's the special smart windows that the Bukit Panjang LRT have to block out apartments for privacy which adds on to the cost, and due to reliability issues, the windows can remain opaque for the whole duration of the journey. And when talking about access penalty, you also have to consider people with disabilities. Even if LRT stations have elevators, if it still requires having to walk across a bridge over a road because it's too dangerous to cross the road on the ground, then someone in a wheelchair wouldn't be able to cross to use the station. The Bukit Panjang LRT was built out of political pressure. Singapore isn't the only place with automated peoplemover systems in an urban area. Miami, Florida is another example, with their Metromover primarily serving Miami's downtown core. The system is free to use and is composed of three loops, with all accessible stations. Running clockwise, the Downtown (Inner) Loop serves all Downtown stations except Third Street station. The Outer Loop (Brickell and Omni Loops) runs counterclockwise and share tracks around the downtown area, serving all stations except for Miami Avenue Station. The Brickell loop runs a line into the Brickell area to the south of downtown, while the Omni Loop contains a line with stations in the Arts & Entertainment District neighborhood north of Downtown. Similar to how the LRT systems in Singapore complements the MRT, the Metromover complements the Metrorail system, connecting directly with Metrorail at Government Center and Brickell stations. It also connects to Metrobus with dedicated bus loops at Government Center and Adrienne Arsht Center station. Like the Punggol and Sengkang LRTs, the Miami Metromover has been a catalyst for development. But all these systems still face the same problem, capacity. You'd need three Innovia APM 100s (formerly known as Bombardier CX-100s) peoplemovers to match the capacity of a SINGLE Siemens C651 car used on the MRT. Yes, Punggol and Sengkang were planned around their LRT systems, but according to traffic statistics from Maven Technologies, Punggol has been a long-term champion for having the worst congestion levels in the nation, with the Punggol Road-Tampines Expressway junction (towards Sengkang) consistently the top spot. And it's worth mentioning the reason they wanted to build elevated structures for the LRT was so it wouldn't slow down cars. They care more about cars than building quality frequent high-capacity transit besides the MRT. In a country where the majority of its citizens don't own a car! This is more evident when a possible replacement for the Bukit Panjang LRT with an enhanced bus system (like BRT) surfaced in 2016, they went against it because they claimed it would lead to more congestion. While cheaper to build the LRT than MRT, it's more expensive to run than the MRT and conventional light-rail. The Singaporean LRT systems are nothing more than gadgetbahns. Them using the term "LRT" to define an automated peoplemover system in Singapore is misleading, because it makes Singaporeans believe that LRT is something that it isn't, when actual LRT can be something much more useful for Singaporeans than an airport-style peoplemover! Let's compare Singapore's "LRT" systems with an actual light-rail system, the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail in New Jersey. Each HBLR Kinki-Sharyo 2000 series vehicle is 90 feet (or around 27.43 m) long and has four sets of double-opening doors on each side, with seats for 68 passengers and standing room for another 122 passengers. Each HBLR Kinki-Sharyo 5000 series vehicle on the other hand are lengthened versions of the 2000 series, consisting of two new sections, increased from seats for 68 passengers to seats for 102 passengers, and more standing room leading to an overall capacity of over 300 per vehicle. On the HBLR, you typically see a 2000 series vehicle combined with a 5000 series, or two 2000 series vehicles together! In 2024, the system is 17 miles, and in FY2023, its ridership was 13,400,000! In Q1 2024, the HBLR had 2,964 weekday riders per mile, the US light-rail system witht he second-highest ridership per mile behind the Link system in Seattle with 3,461. The HBLR has been a catalyst for transit-oriented development in Jersey City, Bayonne, Weehawken, Union City, and Hoboken! The HBLR is complemented by NY Waterway ferries, Citi Bike bikeshare in JC and Hoboken as well as miles of protected bike lanes those two cities have built, NJT commuter rail at Hoboken Terminal, and the PATH, a subway that connects Newark, Jersey City, and Hoboken with Midtown and Lower Manhattan in New York City. When you give people many transit options to get around, people will happily not own a car. Close to 50% of residents use public transit to commute to work in Jersey City, right behind NYC as the top two cities with the highest percentages of their residents riding transit in the US. Induced demand...make public transport so good, that even with decreased lanes, roads are still LESS congested because everybody is choosing to take public transport. So how do we build a successful light-rail in Singapore? Take a 7-lane road, remove two of the lanes to form a transit ROW, put it in the median so it wouldn't be affected by turning cars, put some tracks into the street, and voila, you've got a tram, that's safe to cross because no elevated infrastructure required. Even better if the tram tracks are grassy. Plantage Middenlaan in Amsterdam is like this, a right-of-way with grassy tram tracks and bike lanes on both sides, with a width of 10 meters. In 2015, it moved 17,500 per HOUR! Meanwhile, Petir Road in Singapore, almost twice as wide at 18 m, with 4 car lanes (including two mixed with bus), moved 3,200 per hour. That makes the one in Amsterdam ten times more efficient than Petir Road, with 1,750 people/hr/m, compared to Petir Road's 178 people/hr/m.
@amazingstarzz
@amazingstarzz Ай бұрын
If our LRTs were actual shorter trains on rails rather than airport people movers, it would make more sense for urban development & frequent transportation. Even a monorail would’ve faired much better than BPLRT.
@KyrilPG
@KyrilPG Ай бұрын
A CityVAL like Rennes (France) metro line B would be perfect. It accelerates and decelerates fast, has several open gangway cars, and can be as frequent as 1 minute. It's also fully separated with platform screen doors. The few elevated stations in Rennes all have direct escalator and elevator access from the streets. It's really nice and super efficient. It's much more a small metro than a people mover.
@wizardman3162
@wizardman3162 Ай бұрын
i wonder why they never just built a tram in the first place
@PrograError
@PrograError Ай бұрын
@@wizardman3162 trams were pretty ugly, plus car lobbies... as much as lobbies in SG are useless...
@YYLiow
@YYLiow Ай бұрын
The prof forgot one last important aspect of public transport which is comfort. Buses often have many seats and even if waiting for red light, you have a seat and aircon. LRT often have weaker air conditioning and less seats. Also you still have to walk a lot as well. Buses just sit at the stop then get on and sit again less movement as well. Worst thing about LRT and MRT is the packing of sardines in the morning, everyone so close tgt and Aircon so weak you can smell the stench of BO. Meanwhile buses only have limited standing area and if you get a seat you don't smell any BO due to the distance between the seats.
@PrograError
@PrograError Ай бұрын
>LRT often have weaker air conditioning Not really, that's a maintenance issue... newer LRT cars are pretty cold, and the warm ones are the older gen 1 stocks that are at least 20 years old by the now...
@mistercai9536
@mistercai9536 Ай бұрын
quite incorrect, i was on a bus. can smell the BO of this passenger sitting right of me.
@incognitopi3693
@incognitopi3693 Ай бұрын
Don’t forget the unreported breakdown from SMRT, I firsthand experienced a 20 min breakdown and they didn’t announce it
@Im_nobody-A350
@Im_nobody-A350 Ай бұрын
20min is only a breakdown delay not exactly abreakdown
@mistercai9536
@mistercai9536 Ай бұрын
Punggol LRT East loop totally cannot handle the crowd during peak hours. The best thing is, SBS had the cheek to alternate two-car trains and 1-car train during peak hours. I had to queue for the next train to be able to squeeze in the train. The people at the last station before Punggol LRT station had it even worse.
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 Ай бұрын
East Loop is fast, and straight. You know what is worse than no seat, no seat and slow. The issue with the overcrowding is poor planning of jobs and residential. People shouldn't have to travel so far for work, and unfortunately this is the problem with Punggol. You're lucky you have a system that allows you to get from your house in Rivera to Punggol in 10minutes. Try here in Hougang I suai suai too many red light become 20minutes.
@antant9523
@antant9523 Ай бұрын
the big draw of the lrt back then is that it is essentially buses above ground, and thus do not need to be affected by traffic condition. they are not completely wrong. however, as seen from bukit panjang lrt, there are far more issues to settle. skipping traffic seems like a very small thing compared to all the other big issues they need to settle.
@yrt9772
@yrt9772 Ай бұрын
Last time got the railway crossing at Bukit Panjang b4 Tanjong Pagar KTM Station closed down
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Ай бұрын
Detroit is another example of an urban peoplemover system. It only goes in one direction, It's useful in serving points of interest like Greektown, the Huntington Place convention center for the auto show, West Riverfront station serving the Riverfront Towers and Wayne County Community College District Downtown Campus, Times Square next to the Rosa Parks Transit Center for buses, and Grand Circus Park where there's a connection to the QLine and the D2A2 commuter bus to Ann Arbor, but you gotta go in a loop-around way to get wherever you want to go. The Detroit People Mover was meant to be a downtown distributor for a proposed city and metro-wide light rail transit system for Detroit in the early 1980s. Plans included an underground subway that would've been built from downtown to New Center, where it would transition into an elevated rail line running to McNichols (Six Mile). From there, it would've been a street-level light rail and extend beyond Detroit and into Royal Oak, and possibly later into Pontiac (this "Woodward-Michigan service" would've included lines to Detroit Metropolitan Airport and a Fort line towards Pennsylvania Rd in Southgate), with additional rail lines running on Grand River Ave, Mound Road, Harper Ave, and Gratiot Ave, and commuter lines from Detroit to Ann Arbor and Port Huron. However, it and the suburbs couldn't decide on anything for the 600 million promised by President Gerald Ford, and so only the circulator got built and the money was withdrawn by Ronald Reagan. The QLine streetcar built in 2017 was a step closer to that old vision. Now the QLine is still useful, it serves Wayne State University, Fox Theatre, Amtrak, Little Caesars Arena, and is walking distance from the Lions and Tigers stadiums as well from Grand Circus Park. But being curbside and not being in the median for most of its length hurts it and slows its down, and when asked by transit advocates during the planning, the QLine people were like "Yeah so?", they didn't care, they didn't want it to be true transit, they just wanted a casual touristy streetcar to attract development I enjoyed Singapore when I was there in 2018, and the MRT is great, but yeah, it deserves a better feeder system than the LRT. If you want a great example of a city with great transport modes that complement each other, and contributing to a lack of congestion, a example of a transit city is Pyongyang. The DPRK is the country with the lowest car ownership rate in the world. Pyongyang is the most notable DPRK city, but other cities in the country have transit, like Chongjin having trams and trolleybuses, Sinuiju having trolleybuses, Wonsan having trolleybuses and a resort tram line.The DPRK also has a great national rail network. The country's transport policy focusses on the railway as the primary means of transport for both passengers and freight. Passenger services include both long-distance trains, as well as commuter services for students and workers; freight transport focusses on industrial raw materials and military traffic, as well as import-export traffic. By putting heavy emphasis on rail transport of goods, by 1983 the amount of traffic transported by rail over an eleven-day period equalled that hauled in the entire year of 1946. The Korean State Railway operates over 5,248 km of railway, of which 4,725 km is 1,435 mm standard gauge, 156 km of 1,520 mm broad gauge, and 523 km is 762 mm narrow gauge Of the total, about 80% is in regular use. 3,893.5 km of the standard gauge lines are electrified at 3 kV DC and 295.5 km of the narrow gauge at 1.5 kV DC. Pyongyang has a lot of transit! Before war in the 1950s, the city had trams but said tram system was destroyed during US air raids, so it built a new system from scratch. Before this system was built, trolleybus lines and a metro system were created. The trolleybus system first opened in 1962, with opening of a line from the Three Revolutions Exhibition at Ryonmot-dong to the Pyongyang railway station. Today, the system has 12 lines with a length of 56.6 km, serving Pyongyang and its suburbs. The Pyongyang Metro has two lines, the Chollima Line and the Hyŏksin Line, with the lines opening 1973 and 1978 respectively. This means the Pyongyang Metro opened one year before the Seoul Subway Line 1 did in 1974. The fare costs 5 DPRK won, or half a US cent. The Pyongyang Metro is among the deepest metros in the world, with the track at over 110 meters (360 ft) deep underground. Due to the depth of the metro and the lack of outside segments, its stations can double as bomb shelters, with blast doors in place at hallways. Most of the 16 public stations were built in the 1970s, except for the two most grandiose stations, Puhŭng and Yŏnggwang, which were constructed in 1987. The Pyongyang Metro artwork is incredible too. Like Moscow and St. Petersburg Metro stations, Pyongyang's stations have chandeliers too! At Yonggwang (Glory) station, its chandeliers represent the fireworks that celebrated the Koreans' victory, and the pillars are sculpted in the shape of victory torches. At Kwangbok (Liberation) station, there are murals showing scenes of the forest from which Kim Il-sung led guerrilla anti-Japanese attacks. The trams finally opened in 1991 as a solution for overcrowded trolleybuses, with three lines, and the Kumsusan shuttle that connects Samhung station with the Kumsusan Palace of the Sun. The tram shuttle line opened in 1995 when the mausoleum opened, to replace the closed Kwangmyong station as the palace became a sacred site and as Kwangmyong was located below the mausoleum, it closed. A number of Tatra T4 trams and its trailer B4 were bought from Dresden, Magdeburg and Leipzig in 1997-1998, while the Kumsusan shuttle uses VBZ Be 4/4 Type Ib rolling stock from late 1940s that was retired from the Zurich network in 1994 on a gauge of 1,000 mm, different from the 1,435 mm gauge of the other lines. In 2008, the City Transportation Company of Prague sold 20 used T3s to Pyongyang. In August 2018, following the introduction of new trolleybuses and metro cars, new partially domestically-produced tram cars were introduced in Pyongyang for the first time in about twenty years. The bodies were manufactured by Pyongyang Bus Repair Factory and named Thongil-181, on the chassis of the Tatra KT8D5K. A ban on bikes was lifted in 1992, and now many people also bike alongside taking transit, and the government has built bike lanes and even introduced Ryomyong bikeshare. Almost all cities in the DPRK have one primary central square, often the site of a monument, a revolutionary museum, a children's traffic park (where kids learn to drive in mini cars), or other significant buildings that either political or cultural. DPRK urban-planning also includes limited urban sprawl, as new developments in DPRK cities tend to take the place of older areas of the city, rather than building new developments further out. In Pyongyang, this is the case with the developments of Mirae (Future) Scientists Street in 2015, Changjon Street in 2012, Songhwa Street in 2022, Hwasong Street in 2024, and Ryomyong (Dawn) Street in 2023. Micro-districts are made up of residences alongside their supporting amenities like public spaces, offices, shops, and schools. A key aspect is both the equality of the residential buildings and the encouragement of people to spend more time in the community, hence the focus on parks and playgrounds
@Pastel_Fox
@Pastel_Fox Ай бұрын
I stay Sengkang and here are some reasons why i loves the LRT line we had. 1. I stay nearby a LRT station. means i go out don't really need umbrella. 2. Safer for elder, bus will be more unstable if really needed to stand compared to LRT. 3. I hate how i need to cross the road to take bus or go home. (elder safety too) 4. some station are somewhat link to super market/shopping malls. if rain i could just take the LRT, same for elderly family members 5. LRT normally arrive on time compared to buses.
@WashedHavertz
@WashedHavertz 28 күн бұрын
These are the kind of things we expect from LRT, nothing special
@KyrilPG
@KyrilPG Ай бұрын
Maybe they should have replaced one with a CityVAL system like in Rennes (France) metro line B, it would be perfect. It accelerates and decelerates fast, has several open gangway cars, and can be as frequent as 1 minute. It's also fully separated with platform screen doors. The few elevated stations in Rennes all have direct escalator and elevator access from the streets. It's really nice and super efficient. It's much more a small metro than a people mover. It seems like current SG LRT's tried to push airport people mover systems above their weight. A CityVAL, as the name suggests, is made for urban transit and can have a surprisingly high capacity.
@ZRHTrainspotter
@ZRHTrainspotter Ай бұрын
I don’t think it is a failure. It just has some room for improvement. And mostly the BP LRT has Problems. Sengkang and Punggol LRT don’t.
@nicholasgoh3526
@nicholasgoh3526 Ай бұрын
The Bukit Panjang LRT was a failure right from the start because it was built out of political pressure. It was not well designed and was built to accommodate the existing town. This has also created a lot of problems when the system was deemed for upgrading a few years ago. There were very limited options including the train system options. It’s still under upgrading and has created a lot of inconvenience for the residents.
@craakhun
@craakhun Ай бұрын
This BP LRT barely has aircond in the morning when people commute to work and school for YEARS already. The stench and humidity when the train has to stall for few minutes due to technical error every single time.... OH MY GOD
@marisalow1185
@marisalow1185 Ай бұрын
I don't even get why buses and LRT were being compared. As the host pointed out, waiting for the next bus is 13 to 15 mins. That is an absolute waste of time getting nowhere closer to your destination. With LRT there is barely any variance in travelling time. Always predictable. As a sengkang resident pf 25yrs, undoubtedly this has made the estate much more convenient and accessible.
@marvint480
@marvint480 Ай бұрын
Still excluded walking to LRT station. I need to walk 6-8 mins to my nearby lrt station
@MebiManga
@MebiManga Ай бұрын
Great video. While buses are more flexible and they can use already existing road infrastructure, the traffic is a heavy factor for waiting and travel time. There are so many times where my bus just runs into every red light and the duration was increased drastically. I'm someone who has benefitted alot from the sengkang and punggol LRT system, and it helps tremendously when I need to help my mum push grocery trolleys when visiting the market - no need to struggle to board and alight buses. One reason the LRT might not be in consideration for newer towns is that there needs to have a huge offset to surrounding HDBs to maintain some form of privacy, and new HDBs are generally built quite close to maximise land use?
@kanadetomato12
@kanadetomato12 Ай бұрын
ooo informative!! maybe because i’m not near any LRTs, so taking them feels like a novelty more than a practical transport system… but indeed it’s good that sg is pretty well connected!
@vin34581
@vin34581 Ай бұрын
London's docklands light railway (DLR) is a better concept. They use medium 2 carriage trains coupled to form 4 or 6 carriage trains depending on time and pax load, which run on normal tracks at faster speeds unlike sg's LRT system. Such tracks are also capable to carry more pax at once while maintaining a decent speed that's comparable to MRT/metro trains
@RailFilmmakingSG
@RailFilmmakingSG Ай бұрын
When the Jurong Region Line arrives, that will be our version of the DLR...
@vin34581
@vin34581 Ай бұрын
@ exactly. good thing to point out as well that the JRL ends at choa chu kang. perhaps absorb the LRT into JRL like that they plan to do for the TEL and EWL changi airport branch? p.s. the line colour is very close to that of the DLR
@KyrilPG
@KyrilPG Ай бұрын
A CityVAL, like in Rennes (France) metro line B, would retain the lighter infrastructure and reduced noise while having better performance and comfort.
@vin34581
@vin34581 Ай бұрын
@ not familiar with that but I'll check out!
@WashedHavertz
@WashedHavertz 28 күн бұрын
This "DLR" thing I searched up and it take so much space already. Looks like a normal British railway. And the metal tracks will make a lot of noise.
@sgbuses
@sgbuses 29 күн бұрын
The LRT concept is still there, only that it got upsized to MRT. Look at JRL. It's going to be as messy as the Docklands Light Railway (DLR). But yay for those who want a DLR in Singapore...sort of. I think the bigger failure is not providing for future expansion. CCL is so overcrowded because they literately boxed in the design to 3-car length and the station infrastructure is built that way, and so the transport planners have set themselves a hard limit on capacity. Bahar Junction as it is designed and going to be built is not that far away as well.
@wonderfulfable
@wonderfulfable Ай бұрын
Hi from across the Causeway, 👋👋 Here in KL, the LRT ( Light Rail Transit ) is referred as a Medium Capacity System that can move large amounts of commuters. Our first two forms of LRT was the Kelana Jaya Line ( 1998 ) & Seri Petaling / Ampang Line ( 1996 ). These two LRT Lines are also KL's first steps into rapid rail transit solutions to alleviate traffic congestion in the city. Subsequently, the maiden MRT Kajang Line was launched in 2016 followed by the MRT Putrajaya Line in 2022. KL now has four major rapid transit lines that serves to move commuters around the city and from the nearby urban areas. The closest analogue of the Singapore LRT system to KL, is that the APM rolling stock is the same kind used for the KLIA ( Airport ) People Mover. It serves to move passengers between the main terminal to the satellite terminal. Interestingly, the station designs of the Singapore LRT has some similarities with the KL Monorail System.
@WashedHavertz
@WashedHavertz 28 күн бұрын
I am envious of Malaysia LRT, because not only is it more sophisticated and advanced than Singapore (1st world country) it can also handle more pax.
@KaysBP
@KaysBP Ай бұрын
BPLRT is connected a loop between two neighbourhoods therefore it’s bigger n one loop has 19 stations total which is more than the North-East Line with 17 stops so u can’t rlly rate much on BPLRT as it plays a bigger part more than SK n PG so I still would say BPLRT is better especially now they r upgrading the system with the new LRTs same SK but our white ones r getting retrofitted so it shld be more convenient in the future🙃
@waikitwong1646
@waikitwong1646 Ай бұрын
In my view LRT is not a suitable transport scheme. It is disappointing that the Government continues to ignore the sound from the ground and not take action to rectify the mistake.
@yeeeyore
@yeeeyore 21 күн бұрын
great video! i moved to punggol a couple of years ago and the lrt system was so confusing. it took me a few rides to figure it out even with access to the internet + being familiar with metro systems. i can't imagine how frustrating it can be for older folks who may not be as familiar. i also def prefer taking buses, even if it takes longer, just because of how far the lrt stations are. would love to cycle to the mrt station but it's just not cost efficient to do it since the fares are not discounted, unlike bus + mrt!
@spimple2837
@spimple2837 Ай бұрын
Just the non existent air con and the one way service during off peak hours need to be fixed in my opinion
@marukomu_7105
@marukomu_7105 6 күн бұрын
yea i think well said by that BP resident, maybe LRT could be a way for residents to commute late at night when there is no bus since it is automated.
@tehsiewdai
@tehsiewdai Ай бұрын
Nice LRT video! 😆 Singapore would be so much nicer with trams
@YaoboyProd2K15
@YaoboyProd2K15 Ай бұрын
A great idea to fix the LRT issue here in SG is to retrofit the Platform gates to include doors, improving safety onboard.
@farhan-5705
@farhan-5705 Ай бұрын
Should’ve extended JRL to BP to provide an alternative to city for ultra westies instead of clinging on to the LRT
@lamlamlam01
@lamlamlam01 Ай бұрын
BP already got DTL and plenty of bus services to CBD within 30mins
@farhan-5705
@farhan-5705 Ай бұрын
@ I’m talking abt connection to CCK, Tengah n Jurong
@FartTong
@FartTong Ай бұрын
⁠@@farhan-5705agreed, could have shortened the 9 min journey to 4mins. But the problem is JRL platform at CCK is perpendicular to the direction of BP, so it would have cost much more to turn the JRL 90°, not to mention the amount of space it would take up in the already packed area between CCK and BP.
@DuxihrXV
@DuxihrXV Ай бұрын
We could have had trams instead of the LRT system but noooo, LTA was and is still too stubborn to implement a form of transit that has priority over cars
@marvint480
@marvint480 Ай бұрын
Singapore is too small to have trams. You don’t even understand Singapore do you?
@DuxihrXV
@DuxihrXV Ай бұрын
@marvint480 what do you mean Singapore is too small to have trams, places like sengkang and punggol could have had a tram network instead of the LRT but noooo LTA just had to build the roads so damn wide to accommodate even more cars even though the government is trying to lessen the number of cars on the road
@laurentmisso6732
@laurentmisso6732 23 күн бұрын
@@marvint480you do realize we had trams in the early 1900’s
@Noruv_4
@Noruv_4 Ай бұрын
I was hoping if they would refurbish the entire network, you know, to add safety doors. Because I regularly use this to College
@derekchua1642
@derekchua1642 27 күн бұрын
At least we did not go for the PRT (Personal Rapid Transit) option! I cannot imagine that working out in crowded Singapore! xD
@MrAmbitiousjapan
@MrAmbitiousjapan Ай бұрын
Its faster to take LRT from bukit panjang to cck.
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 Ай бұрын
The LRT in Punggol East Loop and Sengkang West Loop works well. I think too much government groupthink to dismiss this people mover. It has its utility. Compared to Tampines, this LRT saves soo much on traffic light time. The only draw back, it doesn't go very far or connect to other towns like the way buses can. For instance Bus 82 links Punggol down to Serangoon, that is very useful saving time. If LRT link work as minor trunk lines, it make work better than Feeder service, not that this feeder service has I think work better than bus feeder services.
@WashedHavertz
@WashedHavertz 28 күн бұрын
Sometimes that LRT will just stop in the middle of the track for about 2 minutes. Stop dunno for what. Only wasting time
@PrograError
@PrograError Ай бұрын
I wonder if the ARTs (not the Chinese, but more like Tesla's or the pods at Heathrow or in _Irregular of the Magic High School_ ) would be more viable in the future as autotaxis. I imagine it will be rather expensive but still cheaper for intratown travel, and might put death to the public bus...
@thihal123
@thihal123 Ай бұрын
In the US and Canada, wait time of 5 to 7 minutes would be for peak times, not off peak times. Of course, public transit in both countries typically suck.
@shaylnwong5906
@shaylnwong5906 Ай бұрын
I feel like I learnt so much from this video!! Thank you OGS 😁
@ggggvvv
@ggggvvv Ай бұрын
Oh finally! The video is out!
@damnfreakingsien
@damnfreakingsien Ай бұрын
Lrts are so sluggish, skateboarding was my preferred option during my time going to Sengkang.
@christopheryongmenglee7569
@christopheryongmenglee7569 Ай бұрын
I think LRT(BP) need more improve
@jdchua
@jdchua Ай бұрын
Well done Marcus, Ray, Benjamin, Claire and Celeste
@cuatroscandiacus
@cuatroscandiacus 29 күн бұрын
How many takes did you take for the segment at 2:20 to sync with the train passing by?
@raymondloke
@raymondloke Ай бұрын
BP LRT is working fine..if you take the new car it's a reasonably comfortable ride...Sengkang & Punggol LRT are built on flatter terrain...did not factor in that BP LRT is older than Punggol & SK
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 Ай бұрын
I think the only two that is fast and efficient is the SK West Loop and Punggol East Loop. The other two give me headache like the Bukit Panjang Line. This people mover cannot turn very well.
@raymondloke
@raymondloke Ай бұрын
😊😊​@MrBoliao98 I dunno why non Bukit Panjang people have to be so dramatic and opinionated about BP LRT. As a BP resident I think it's working just fine. Punggol and SK LRTs are super crowded
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 Ай бұрын
@raymondloke the Punggol and Sengkang one are crowded because it is fast and efficient, saves time :)
@raymondloke
@raymondloke Ай бұрын
@MrBoliao98 I've taken the SK and Punggol LRT many times before ...cannot bluff me...still got single car despite the crowdedness 🙄
@WashedHavertz
@WashedHavertz 28 күн бұрын
Only time the Sengkang LRT works is off peak where the 1 car trains are empty and have aircon. I have already avoided taking the hot crowded LRT during peak hour.
@Loo-lp1fs
@Loo-lp1fs Ай бұрын
Hate to tell u......chicken rice then was 2.50sgd.
@y-tr1dd
@y-tr1dd Ай бұрын
10 years ago chicken rice was $2 only tho
@MakLim-w7c
@MakLim-w7c Ай бұрын
1:30 it depends on the day or which side of the loop, you didn't give us much details about that so it wouldn't be a fair test
@NATO4623
@NATO4623 Ай бұрын
6:55 some singaporean buses also have that so it’s not fair
@nerfblader
@nerfblader Ай бұрын
Is his name Theseira or Theresia? there seems to be some discrepancy in the video
@ashleymatthewteo7258
@ashleymatthewteo7258 Ай бұрын
amazing video
@HelloWorld-pc3ku
@HelloWorld-pc3ku Ай бұрын
Sengkang and Punggol LRT is fully packed and full to the brim, so it’s reliable at transporting people from a point to a central location. 😂
@ryankrishnanboongkannanmbs7791
@ryankrishnanboongkannanmbs7791 Ай бұрын
man the lrts are useful actually in my opinion to allow people to commute faster
@WashedHavertz
@WashedHavertz 28 күн бұрын
Supposed to be faster than bus but always slow and sluggish
@ryankrishnanboongkannanmbs7791
@ryankrishnanboongkannanmbs7791 28 күн бұрын
@@WashedHavertz yup the lrt travels at up to 60km/h but buses can travel faster
@spamboi2670
@spamboi2670 17 күн бұрын
access penalty is a impt concept 6:21
@augustinesanthanam7414
@augustinesanthanam7414 Ай бұрын
Great video….. though one thing…. Cannot get away with the way you pronounce LRT. Lol. ❤
@Xiaomi-jm2gz
@Xiaomi-jm2gz Ай бұрын
Never mention that the reason Bukit Panjang LRT got reduced opening hours or that the reason it's not bidirectional are due to upgrading works to improve the LRT's reliability. Plenty of bad research and poor information with no proper conclusions, combined with the bad presentation of the speaker means this is a really badly done video by OGS. I expected better from y'all.
@caezartuazon6
@caezartuazon6 Ай бұрын
I can only say that the lrt concept in Sg is actually a good plan executed poorly....Like for me me i like the connectivity of the bplrt with other mrt services and also irs connectivity to many schools and malls in the area...i can agree that the tracks are very bendy because of the hilly terrain...if only sg was not so pressured in buildiny these types od systems...btw there might be a new lrt system coming in the form of an actual tram building in the new residential area thats built on the old paya lebar airbase
@kennySg101
@kennySg101 Ай бұрын
It is a combination of design n type of system mis-fit. We should have fixed it when we build the 2nd one. Now we have given up.
@mr.pointman1930
@mr.pointman1930 Ай бұрын
No, it is not. It is one of the first example as an alternative for Bus. If the road accident.
@MrVipulLal
@MrVipulLal Ай бұрын
Most people take the LRT to get to the interchange.
@Wesley-mu2qy
@Wesley-mu2qy Ай бұрын
this host marcus koa is so handsome pls make move vids with him OGS😋
@brianwang8546
@brianwang8546 Ай бұрын
LRTs are for cities that can't afford underground transit. At least this is the case here in Canada. Don't sweat it guys.
@sevenhuang7777
@sevenhuang7777 Ай бұрын
Would the govt admit failure in any project ! ?
@MrPicanto
@MrPicanto Ай бұрын
It is too slow n not upgradeable 🎉
@SG4002G
@SG4002G Ай бұрын
at least got new C801B
@junielesparas8018
@junielesparas8018 27 күн бұрын
Why not just have help from japanese train experts like us when our LRT experience breakdowns which delays our mass transit in Metro Manila 😊
@idleideal4366
@idleideal4366 Ай бұрын
interesting piece but the host voiceover is a bit dull.
@MHAdventures-b5l
@MHAdventures-b5l Ай бұрын
My nice main transport is always the PAB. Don’t feed $$$$ into transport minister pockets and who don’t use public transport but their stinking cars only
@shizhengiso
@shizhengiso Ай бұрын
Yes
@Loo-lp1fs
@Loo-lp1fs Ай бұрын
But then full distance bus fare is sgd1.1. 1sgd = 1.7m$. electronics and fruits were cheaper than in malaysia. Malaysians were saying cheap cheap cheap on certain Singapore goods and not the other way round. 10 years earlier.......its even worse....... Most malaysians came in as tourists to enjoy duty free goods before gst being crept in at 3% in the 90s. Thats 70s show just came out where malaysians were reminiscing the good old singapore where singgies got to serve Malaysian for their fat dollars...... The wheels have turned
@harith6160
@harith6160 Ай бұрын
they should've just make trams...
@tranmainganha7593
@tranmainganha7593 25 күн бұрын
The Bukit
@thecommentatorofreallynoth9966
@thecommentatorofreallynoth9966 Ай бұрын
LRT save traffic light time.
@cinnamonbun5510
@cinnamonbun5510 Ай бұрын
Singapore needs to learn from Japanese transportation!
@user_dulcie
@user_dulcie Ай бұрын
LTA is upgrading the BPLRT with new trains and system, that why 2 directional travel is only available during peak hours, however the upgrading is taking way too long! Another bugbear about BPLRT is the lift service. Due to the design of the platform, only 1 lift is available on each side. If the lift is under maintenance, there is no access for wheelchair/PAB users, and pity those who are elderly with weak knees. Hope LTA can invest in adding additional lifts.
@towerguarder
@towerguarder 10 күн бұрын
LRTs are a waste of money
@christopheryongmenglee7569
@christopheryongmenglee7569 Ай бұрын
STC/PTC LRT is good
@christopheryongmenglee7569
@christopheryongmenglee7569 Ай бұрын
C810D is coming next year
@ほしなみん
@ほしなみん Ай бұрын
just saying the content is good but the awkward pacing and the questionable delivery by the presenter made this video quite jarring to watch. theres a lot of weird gaps in the narration and the story narrative doesnt make sense as much. good video but cld be nicer presented, keep it up
@adlymarjidi
@adlymarjidi Ай бұрын
Okay atleast its better than the trains here in Germany. Every trains are either delayed or cancelled. You will miss your connections and forced to wait for the next connecting train. Mind you I went to work for 40 mins then it took me 4 hours just to reach home due to the train delays and track problems. Talking about punctuality in Germany ? Boi its non existent.
@P53eud0nym05
@P53eud0nym05 Ай бұрын
Don’t like don’t take. Simple
@efgerfgergferg6749
@efgerfgergferg6749 Ай бұрын
Hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars used up...not as simple as you think
@laujunming4152
@laujunming4152 Ай бұрын
Lol "don't take" when in some cases there's no other option
@xh6399
@xh6399 Ай бұрын
How will things improve with this kind of attitude? It is our civic duty to provide feedback
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