Is The New 2024 CFMOTO 450MT Really That Good?

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[@muzammilfarooq4975]

175kg is dry weight Wet weight is 194/195kg with a full tank of fuel

[@NoName-gt5ow]

If this article is true, it's not that interesting. It weighs almost the same as a mid-weight adv bike.

[@stefanhansen5882]

10:37 The curb weight is NOT 175, but close to 195. 175 is the dry weight.

[@juanicofernandez]

I got one! and I love it especially with the rally seat!

[@paulvandervyver4223]

The new Honda NX500 is also a good competitor with a few more HP. Obviously Honda spells reliability, better resale value and it apparently has great fuel economy too. But no spoked 21/18 wheels, not much in terms of suspension settings, 180 degrees crank instead of 270 and almost the same weight. CFMoto has come a long way, but will have to prove itself in this segment of the market though.

[@StrappedHistorian]

Honda has been really vanilla the last couple years tho ugh nothing exciting in their lineup really

[@davidz8]

I have owned my 450MT since July, I have 2000 miles on it so far, I have fitted a 15 tooth front sprocket which makes the bike cruise easily on motorways, I have the both the low and high seats, I use the low seat when going off road for the day as I love having the complete foot down confidence it brings, and the high seat for touring and I can still get both feet down. The bike feels more like it has 60hp than 42hp, and can easily overtake most things, I came off a Tenere and much prefer the 450MT, the snatchy throttle for me was cured by taking the slack out of the cables, but it is a thing, hopefully a fuelling map will be released. Accessories are really cheap as are spare parts on the Uncle Wang website. I don't think this would be a great 2 up bike as that would asking a lot, but 1 up with luggage is fine. I average 70mpg which gives a range of 270 miles to empty, I can easily do 220 miles before the warning light comes on, I can cruise on motorways at around the limit!!! all day if I needed to, I just try not to if I can help it. The only thing that lets it down are the service intervals, 3000 miles or 12 months, 3000 miles on this bike can be done in no time, I will keep the warranty for the 1st year, but after that if nothing terrible has cropped up on higher mileage bikes I will self service from then on. There is a guy who has done 25000km on his and had no issues at all.

[@Tubed-i5n]

Nice one 😎✌️

[@LiviuXSA]

its not lighter, its just cheaper. not bad to have 45hp bike for 5500 euros but for 2025 they made it 6000 euros... and bad resale value. at that point just add 1-1,5k extra and buy japanese i think

[@mattwilliams9758]

…and have access to an established dealership network and good spares availability too. 😂

[@spotthedogg]

It is lighter than it’s closest competitor (NX500) and has much better appointments

[@paradoxworkshop4659]

Buying on resale value would mean riding on sunny days only, on pavement, under 2000mi/year, and washing more than riding. You'd be better off with a Harley.

[@jasonk7072]

This will be a great choice to use as intended if you pick one up secondhand in a year/18 months time.

I also think so... but remember... many of these bike are currently being abused by newbies off road... so might be a hard bet!

[@pepcooper]

I was hyped about the 450MT, but I went to see it at a dealership and got quite dissapointed. Probably is more due to my expectations watching reviews and all of that but, I don't think it's good enough. I expected it to be like you said some sort of a "mini tenere" but it's definetly not. It's just a bit lower, but it's actually wider and only 10kg lighter fully fueled but only has half the engine... It's a great bike allround but in my opinion, almost 200kg wet for a 450cc it's too much.

[@christianweller4288]

An imperfect unicorn. But very, very good value for the money. NX500 or IBEX will be a tough decision. Road focus or more off-road? Great that we have a choice though.

[@daveb2wright]

As usual a well informative video. I have the MT 800 and I am well chuffed with it. Quality is right up there with European manufacturers.

[@PlatinumRatio]

To me, this needs to compete with my DRZ.

[@TA21330]

not so light !!!

[@MH-xd2nd]

The true value of this bike is to wake up the big brands. Despite all the hoo-hah sales of premium high end bikes are declining as most richer bikers age and trade down or give up riding, and the only real growth sector is the more affordable 500cc and below. It might be a real big market proposition once CF Moto’s operation and support network catches up with their products, but BMW, Ducati, KTM (although they have CF produce their 790s), Triumph and the big 4 Japanese need to wake up. Their smaller offerings are so-so but I have no interest in a vibey single. The nearest spec competitor is the NX500 - not an off-roader but not much more and good enough for most owners, with that long history of quality and reliability. I also wonder whether the noisy pre reveal at a nice price softens up the market and a sneaky price increase for 2025 will be the “actual” price once the bikes are available, at least in the UK, which is probably a small market for CF moto anyway.

[@andrewpeter6128]

Yep, it will wake up the major manufacturers to potentially build their own small displacement motos…in China. Time will tell regarding all the concerns outlined by others. But cf moto will get better. They will become good. And likely even great.

[@mrzclips]

I think the main selling point is the shorter seat height which was always the cuplrit of the bigger adv bikes. The 450MT is cearly made for the lighter, shorter riders below 5 ft 9(180cm). Also the center of gravity is lower making it easier to maneuver in slow speed compared to top heavy bikes like t7. Im really excited about the new KTM 390 Adventure next year.

[@SuperOle2011]

Kawasaki Versys 300 has about 5hp less but weighs 20kgs less wet. This CFMoto is WAY too heavy for a small 450 engine. Great looking, great idea, but sharing the weight of a 1000cc superbike? No thank you...

Have you tried it? the way they nailed the geometry... it is amazing. I have ridden lighter bikes that behave like stubborn horses.

[@mikeshacklock6208]

@MOTOBOB As a 23' KTM 390Adv owner already I have a 450MT on order as want a more green lane friendly bike. The 390Adv needs quite a few mods to do off-road IMO, & even then it's slighlty compromised by wheel sizes. Don't get me wrong it's a good road bike with Adv styling for our crappy A/B-roads in the UK but too revvy for me off tarmac. Will I keep both...dunno yet🤔

Wonderfull review as always. this was the first ADV bike I test rode. I am on the retro segment... but this... made me laugh all the way... I just wanted to push it off the road to jump up and down the sidewalks. It reminds me of the fiat Panda 4x4. One other competitor would be the nx500. maybe more suited for longer rides on the road.

[@Tubed-i5n]

Yes it was launched in the Philippines & Asian market for the slightly shorter riders. It'll be a fun bike.

[@mattwilliams9758]

Buying the bike is only the start of the story… spares availability, service intervals and dealership support are what makes ownership a breeze or a pain. As an early adopter of a brand that had few (at that point) spares stocks and even fewer dealers in the UK, a cheap RRP can lead you down an unpleasant road. 😂

[@stephenbryson5618]

The 2025 model will come will more bhp and better fuel map!! I’ve had 2 CFMOTO s and the fueling has been terrible on both I will wait???

[@fatherted2260]

Yep I had same issue on test bike I rode. They need to sort the fueling

[@zaynkorai]

How you know that " more bhp". and how much more?

[@topgearnutter]

General reviews of this bike have been great and hopefully I can try it someday. One thing that I always wondered was if the engine in this was originally planned as a replacement for the ktm single 390 range…. CF and ktm do have a partnership so probably the engine was already designed before ktm cancelled their plans

[@simonpercival-f6r]

I own one of these and the review is spot on - jerky throttle and power lets it down a bit

[@lui310]

I've heard there is an update you can download to fix the throttle

[@twowheelin7361]

I’ve toured on this bike 2 up with luggage and it performed beautifully. It’s a small capacity engine so it isn’t ideal for long freeway stints

[@kaveiros75]

I haven't ridden one, nor am I interested in this category. But I 've seen a couple of these on the road lately and they look much more expensive and quality in the flesh than in the photos.

[@The_RC_Guru]

They offer a seat that’s like 3 inches taller too. I think they call it their rally seat.

[@jamesonpace726]

Triumph 400 is really more my use case thingy....

[@Sumrin3971]

Honda should make cp 500 motorcycles

[@TheBoobieMan]

2:44 it has apple carplay?

[@nightcoremetal2518]

CFmoto bikes, ATVs, SxS, etc. with the newer dashes have Apple Carplay and Android Auto. Google "CFMoto MMI"

[@leon81061]

Honestly i would never buy one of these (i have really bad experiences with chinese brand Motorcycles, Cars and Scooters) but hopefully this Bike shows the European and Japanese Brands how easy it is to solve a lot of "customer problems". The ABS-Switch is brilliant (look at you, Yamaha Tenere 700 and your stupid "Oh this Button just turns your ABS back on, if you want to disable it you have to stop and get into 300 Submenues and as soon as you turn off the bike you have to do it all again"-ABS-Settings), Apple Car Play in such a "cheap" bike is simpy unheard of and the whole setup with the quircky 450 Engine is just brilliant

Add on the GPS/alarm that comes with the bike and OTA software/remaping from your phone with no need to go to a dealer... About quality vs competition... European manufacturers are loosing sales in China (And Europe) due to quality match now from (some selected) chinese products (the vast majority is still trash). Also note that they are betting their name (30 years making mules for offroad) and not using a "refurbished" ole motorcycle brand. These guys are here to stay. The only thing/issue will be the resale value... for that to even out, this low quality stigma has to end first.

[@blackbuttecruizr]

Looks like a great value.

[@xpllmmff]

This is the first time I see more "Thumb down" than "Thumb up"in this channel. What's wrong with this video? （have seem much higher positive than negative now. ）

[@davmanlop333]

He can't get one 😂

[@gilbyseventy5]

Ive heard there are only 100 units coming to the UK next year so if you havent got a deposit down already you are in for a long wait. Size wise, it looks the same size as a t7. How does it compare?

More confortable (fully adjustable suspension), more electronics/usability, "half" the price, and all the rest goes downhill from there. BUt again... a T7 has 300 cc more, so you shouldn't compare them.

[@djangounhinged7634]

I own one also - no jerky throttle at all. Either Europe has a different tune to meet Euro-5 or your bike or style needs adjustment....

yup.. .you nailed it. it is Euro 5 rules that are fracking it. THere are already some remaps that lower this whilst providing 6 extra HP.

[@tobymcnicol922]

cheers, i like these. slightly bigger kettle of fish, but can get a Kove 800x to review?

also check the new VOGE 900 dsx, and the new CFMoto 800 MTX.... better wait and see how this all unravels :D

[@hakshayak2044]

Its chinese skip.... I can't take the risk of being followed by the bike itself😂

[@awwazaar]

As if it's not happening to RE already. You can't skip it bro you just don't have the option to have it.

[@OliviaWilson-i5f5f]

Your videos always bring so much joy and smiles! Thank you for your talented sense of humor and your bright, infectious performances!🚙🔴❕

[@ashwilliams4989]

nice bike, BUT too heavy (175 dry, 194wet) and too little capacity engine 457ccm. People need a adv-bike like KTM LC4 640 Adventure (under 160kg dry, big tank 25-30litres, big SINGLE cylinder engine 600-700ccm and large torque, 6 speed transmission).

I think the sales numbers are saying the opposite. YOU need a adv bike like KTM LC4.

[@Tubed-i5n]

Yup ✌️😄

[@fs5866]

This bike is one of the best looking light adv bikes around, the Chinese are cooking.

[@Sumrin3971]

I'll wait some one that rode it to reach 100000 km then I'll buuy

[@RMAPASA]

100K kms? This is not a car.

[@andrewpeter6128]

100k should be expected from a modern moto

[@Shady689]

Whoever buys this let's see how you feel after two years.

[@TT-ch2pz]

My first impression of this bike, just from pictures and video, was 450 Yamaha Tenere. I can't wait to ride it.

[@LiviuXSA]

i test rode 450mt, its nothing like tenere, feels like half the bike (which it is)

[@davmanlop333]

End of the day it's still the best compared to the competition 👍

[@scrapmix0804]

First Uncle Bob

[@SanthoshRajan-m2y]

Himalayan is far better than this one 🇮🇳

[@ravenfeather09]

Keep dreaming

[@hakshayak2044]

Dream for Chinese fanboys😂😂.its real​@@ravenfeather09

[@StrappedHistorian]

Not a chance, this has more cylinders

[@AnnaAllenko]

I really appreciate your attention to detail and quality. Your videos are always top notch!🏠😈🪱