Is the new Coil Gun too good?

[@grummdoesstuff2983]

The coil gun seems to ONLY fire at full charge, making it good for high single target damage, but if you’re surrounded or being chased down by a swarm, that long charge and single shot chamber will be a huge issue. But the bulldog is more versatile, able to deal sustained burst damage instead of single hit blasts, allowing it to both deal with single large targets and multiple smaller targets, and switch between them. The bulldog is a follow-up tool, great for when you need that little bit of damage but can’t use your primary or need high accuracy. Meanwhile the coil gun seems like a front loader, easily doing large amounts of damage, but not as swiftly or as readily.

[@shadowhaxor99]

Just because we only see them fire at full charge doesn't mean that it can only fire at full charge, although we won't know either way until later. I think if that is right, it will have less versatility than the bulldog, although that's not really a great thing either imo. I hope it is able to be versatile while doing it's own thing. That might sound a bit contradictory, but what I mean is that I hope it has it's own way to approach single target or crowd control. Like the engi's breach cutter and grenade launcher both can do single target damage or aoe, but they both go about it in different ways, if that makes sense. I still trust the devs, and we still need to see more, but I just kinda noticed that the gameplay is pretty similar between the two weapons. It's kind of like the coil gun is elephant rounds but as the base weapon lol.

[@Tidbit.97]

I really like the way this is put. Interesting assertion.

[@ranger8099]

The Coil Gun being too similar to the Bulldog had crossed my mind too. However, I also thought that the Drak and Deepcore would have the same playstyle, and they definitely do not play the same. With that in mind, I'm not to worried about the Coil Gun being a better/worse Bulldog.

[@shadowhaxor99]

That's a very fair point! I had the same worry myself and got proven wrong. The devs haven't let us down yet, so I'm still holding out hope!

[@Tidbit.97]

The primary difference, from what it looks like to me, is the charge shot itself. I watched the leak like 10 tens in a row. The coil starts (at least in the video) with 480 ammo but uses 40 ammo per shot. (For those not math inclined, that’s only charge 12 shots. And from the video they released, it looks like charge shots may be the only option on this gun, like a mini rail gun) I worried about this too at first; Long story short-The coil looks like much strong Direct damage option with MUCH less ammo efficiency. Which should compliment the Hurricane well as it has much less issue with ammo efficiency! Time will tell.

[@howtomakeacoilgunoffallout4096]

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[@robertbailey2160]

Isn't the charging mandatory? A one shot more powerful pistol seems very different from the bulldog, which to me is a bit of a backup plan when the minigun overheats. In keeping with the theme of the 3 primaries have 2 extremes and a middle option, it seems that the coil gun will be a new extreme, and the bulldog will be the middle option in terms of fire rate/damage/clip.

[@shadowhaxor99]

Charging might be mandatory, but we aren't quite certain. I think I get what you're saying about the weapons having a middle ground and 2 extremes. That does make me a little less concerned. I just hope it's not too extreme lol

[@mpaske1]

As a gunner main I think the coil gun will be like the EPC for the driller. Have regular shots to use as a basic firearm. Then having the charged shot for larger targets. I can’t wait to use it. However, it’s going to take an absolutely amazing weapon for me to change out my bulldog. Unless it has some really amazing overclocks it will really be hard to replace the pocket sniper.

[@LOUDcarBOMB]

Just wanted to say nice use of Red Brinstar throughout the video.

[@shadowhaxor99]

Thanks! Since we were talking about a futuristic laser gun, I wanted to go with something that would match.

[@LOUDcarBOMB]

@@shadowhaxor99 True, and with your video, I'm thinking of what Metroid music would sound like over DRG gameplay in different biomes.

[@jacobfoxfires964]

I feel like in terms of balancing and how we can make guns difference, this has 2 main guns to keep note of. Both the Bulldog and the EPC. The Bulldog has already a single target nature in mind but does have the tools to make it deal with multiple enemies. But the main issue is the comparison to the Bulldog in this video. The other is the EPC, which we don't want to be stepping on the toes of either since it also has a charging mechanic. It charges for slow moving projectiles but can shot the single click projectiles. So with that in mind, what can the coil do? I am definitely on the camp of it needing a full charge shot to fire. It's suppose to be a cross of a slingshot and a miniature rail gun so that makes sense. Another idea is that maybe it's less about the effects on the target it can do and more like what the impact of the weapon it can do. I have seen ideas about how this is meant for power and can mess with that like how it can provide piecing shots, maybe an upgrade where once it hits the surface, it makes a mini explosion, someone talked about Newton's second law and hitting a target can make a cone of damage behind it to hurt enemies which would be interesting to see. But when it comes to this comparison to Bulldog, bulldog's power comes more from other stuff it can do like with the 6 shooter with having more firepower in a clip to unload, the toxic coating, actually being able to hit weakpoints which the coil I think would not have, and it pairing up with fire damage to hit targets harder. So I do get some worries about the weapon but I do think there are some fundamental ideas that can make it different to the bulldog but still have both be viable.

[@Strelok3892]

Idk... I usually run brt but another thing i use the buldog for is a "get out of jail" card. Depending on the uncharged shot damage you may not be able to do that... Plus single shot. And i think i saw it burn 40 charges with one shot? That coul mean you will have very little ammunition; even less than a bulldog. That said the devs did a very good job with this game, i trust they will deliver something cool this time too.

[@Phoenix-qv9hg]

Considering the limited Information, you are really overthinking this, imo. Numbers, Mods, OC's, heck, we don't even know exactly what it can do and what not in it's base form. The only thing we know is that it's charged, uses multiple ammo per shot, and can go through terrain - Features that all vary strongly from the bulldog and ain't a straight upgrade by any means.

[@shadowhaxor99]

Yeah, you're probably right. My concern is how this weapon kind of seems like the elephant rounds OC but that's just the base weapon. It's got relatively low ammo but with very high damage. Another concern I forgot to bring up is if it can pierce through enemies like it does terrain. If that's the case, then it might get the best of both worlds. I still have a lot of trust in the devs, so I don't think it'll be a huge concern, just something I noticed in the limited footage we have

[@laary7589]

I KNEW IT PEOPLE THAT PLAY METROID LIKE THIS GAME

[@jnb_110]

Calm your panties, the gun isnt even out yet and you guys are already freaking out as hell. Jeez, this community sometimes...

[@shadowhaxor99]

Bud, I say myself in the video that I might just be overreacting. I just wanted to share some of my thoughts. I'd hardly call this video "freaking out as hell". I'm aware that I'm probably wrong. Just thought it was important to discuss.

[@laary7589]

PFTTT

[@Jan-gf7lh]

You make such beautiful videos!! Do not waste your time = P r o m o s m!!!