Is The New Dodge Charger Actually Going To Sell?

[@jackiejorpjomp]

Bottom line is dodge buyers want a V8 and ev buyers don't want a dodge.

[@jasonraymond7907]

You got it right, it's a bad muscle car and a bad EV.

[@darrenlub]

U nailed it. 👏

[@Nightakula]

Well put.

[@number1heatrocka287]

👍👍 exactly!

[@ENCAGED79]

You do realize that the 2 previous generations sold way more V6 models compared to the V8.

[@ingopaul67]

Just shows how out of touch Stellantis management are with their customers.

[@Peacepeacepeacepeacepeace]

I was just about to comment the same thing. I hope they get it together.

[@serga7486]

They tried to tell us what to like

[@zephxiii]

Tavares was out of touch with reality, he's gone now. Things will go back to normal eventually.

[@Jeez001]

Carlos was pushing high end EVs here so he can offset money losing cheap EVS being sold on same platform in Europe

[@MisterMonsieur]

*They're asking an extra $15k for the SCAT Pack, which is JUST a Software Tune. They ALL have the same hardware.*

[@jmoore4156]

The future of auto trim levels I guess…. Just “download the features you want for your car!” lol😂

[@escheidl]

That's how the trucking industries has been doing it for years. You pay X-thousands of dollars for a horsepower/torque upgrade and in many cases it doesn't require any changes in hardware. They just collect your money, hook it up to a laptop and say there you go. Cummins motto, "We sell horsepower." It's been going on for years.

[@worstgamer13]

well thats just an obvious scam

[@williambrennan5701]

seadoo was one of the first to do this in 2014. the difference between the base 60hp and the 90hp was a tune. You can save a bunch buying the 60 and sending the computer off to be reflashed. they can do 110hp with just software but u have to run high octane

[@stanguay169]

The ridiculous thing is the fake engine sound... Don't pretend something you're not.

[@danielulz1640]

Fake sound = fake car!

[@norwegianblue2017]

It's one thing to pipe in fake sounds into the interior like in the Hyundai Ionic 5 or the Corvette E-Ray. Laughable to put it on the exterior. Just embarrassing.

[@legiran9564]

Just like the loser vegetarians that eat burgers with imitation meat patties to play pretend cool.

[@rogerrussell9544]

@@legiran9564 Ah, this car is for the soy drinkers that want to pretend they are masculine enough to have a car.

[@miamoto69]

It's like a meat flavored veggie burger. Nobody asked for this.

[@davidcovey3001]

TOO EXPENSIVE! Who can afford a car nowadays? Every car is 50, 60, 70k+.. Most people don't even make that in a year.. who are they building these ultra expensive cars for?

[@RobertJohnson-bj5lk]

Rich people 😑

[@chriscon8463]

People that lease maybe? Makes no sense to me.

[@aussie2uGA]

Klaus Schwab says we are engineering society for mass transit and alternate forms of transportation. The average person won’t be driving at some point.

[@Name-kd5jj]

Debt is always an option.

[@horseathalt7308]

@@aussie2uGA I would bet that the WEF globalist financial institutions have influence in Stellantis.

[@jackiejorpjomp]

I heard they have sold less than 100 in total. It's already a flop.

[@davidcovey3001]

Doesn't help they're 70+ grand...

[@TheLumpyOne]

More than a flop. It's easily one of the biggest boondoggles in automotive history. This resolute failure, combined with all the other incompetence by the clown Carlos Tavares, may just leave Dodge unable to recover. Hopefully, Stellantis will split off CDJR l, back into its own group. Maybe that can help.

[@blackice7408]

​I believe that was his inside plan. To destroy dodge and the muscle car craze because their european minds see it as foolish while they drive around in their 1.4 litre 3 cylinder hybrid small cars​@@TheLumpyOne

[@mdaniel444]

Wait, it's already for sale lmao??

[@waynek805]

@@mdaniel444 What do you mean already?? It is a 2024 model that was originally slated for a mid 2024 release and not a single one was delivered to a customer prior to 2025!

[@bobbyjones2112]

It wouldn’t be so bad if it wasn’t $70-$80,000 and up! I mean, It’s almost ridiculous. It’s not almost, it is ridiculous!😂

[@bigrr64]

Yeah, this one's going to go down in the record book all-time Flopper here. I can already see it.

[@chriscon8463]

Edsel-level stuff right here!

[@MrHemikid426]

No one will trade their ice muscle car for this monstrosity. It's a joke and the fake exhaust is ridiculous.

[@kman0074]

I think they may get more of the Audi Mercedes jaguar big quiet car folks than converting muscle car people. I’m getting up there and have a bad back and need some space, I’d be a buyer (at $50k). Good cruiser seems not too bad of a market position.

[@horseathalt7308]

@@kman0074 NOBODY that shops Audi Benz BMW would ever consider this Dodge.

[@StefanoWeston]

True, I certainly wouldn't want an EV with fake exhaust and would do anything I can to turn the feature off. 😅

[@jpmiller99]

In my area I see markups on the new charger. To me. It's like a knee-jerk response from a dealer to mark up a new product regardless of actual demand. It's easier to just to mark it up and see if anybody buys it than to do market research

[@IconicSwooshes]

They sell well because of corporations buying them as rental fleets & corporate cars. It’s not tons of families buying the blazer

[@DanielDaniel1]

lol no. Tesla rentals were a disaster for Hertz. Nobody is renting a two door vehicle.

[@IconicSwooshes]

@ talking about the blazer. Whether the rental worked out or not it still counted as sales for the company which is the point.

[@brandonrides8953]

Houses aren't selling, why would overpriced cars?

[@19hundoc47]

Houses are selling, I don’t think you have a clue what you’re talking about you buffoon

[@legiran9564]

That are unreliable and lack practicality.

[@davidryder5082]

Houses near me are still crazy and they keep building.

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

Selling for high prices here in California

[@implodinggoat]

Put a Hemi V8 in it and it will sell. Dodge Charger buyers are not part of the EV market.

[@VinceVDC]

There isn't room for a V8

[@implodinggoat]

@@VinceVDC Its bigger than the old Charger was and they put a huge V8 in that. You can cram a LS V8 into a Miata if you want.

[@mike_johnson87]

​@@implodinggoat Facts, they can do it.

In 2024, Dodge sold 21,321 Charger models in total, and 21,000 in 2023. Not exactly flying out the doors of dealerships.

[@fivespeed3026]

They should’ve offered a all-wheel-drive hellcat version

[@Wonsdloc]

Electric and Muscle Car should never be in the same sentence. Stop changing popular well-known muscle or enthusiast cars into electric versions

[@poodabran]

FACTS

[@supersayin1]

Amen!

[@jlaw1901]

But they have to be… EVs are the future. Maybe not today for every use case but over the next 10 years battery tech is going to make them the best option for 90% of people. EV motors are already technically superior to ICE engines. Don’t murder me, I love V8s too, but I also see we need to adapt. China is knocking on our door.

[@williampisano7573]

Mustang lol 😂 the EV is out selling the regular mustang lol 😂 in three years from now charger EV will out sell gas version

[@bmorehemi392]

Should’ve called it “Electric proformance”

[@smithjones1906]

It's even heavier than the old one. Cops won't buy it. Rental car companies won't buy it. The Hurricane isn't very good, at least not the two that I've driven. And, Stellantis is the worst company in the business from a customer perspective. Don't buy this, and don't buy Stellantis in general.

[@techismycologne]

I've been watching TFL for a LONG time. You do a great job, don't let some loser who has the time to critisize you online otherwise. You can tell your father is proud of you and I think he did a great job helping you get there. Thank you for the great content.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

It’s just dumb. They were warned way before this thing hit the lots, and they totally ignored us.

[@MarceloLopezJr]

Stellantis has gone off the deep end in pricing.....$25000 overpriced.

[@technom3598]

Name a company that hasnt. Its called inflation and bidenomics.

[@matthewchetcuti3278]

I think if they were going to commit to the full electric, they should’ve offered more impressive specifications. Basically all of the cars that compete with this and its price class are significantly quicker, charge quicker or go farther.

[@Justtwodangmany]

They sold the idea of an EV version with the 800v Banshee, then launched 400v cars. Now theyre out, and we're still waiting for the muscle to show up. But the poor sales on these sub-Banshee models are going to kill the Banshee release itself. The V8s are going to take another 2-3 years to show up. Its ridiculous. Thanks Carlos

[@mike_johnson87]

Ok, to be fair. It's faster than the old 5.7 and 6.4 Hemi. That's not nothing to sneez at for their first shot. Also, power output can always be improved in EVs easily. The challenge is real-world range and battery capacity. Which is currently being led by Lucid for performance EVs. How much does those cost?🤔

[@Reginald_Harrison]

⁠@@mike_johnson87The blessing/curse of EVs is they’re all pretty quick. Launching a 2 door $62k EV with abysmal range and 4.9 second 0-60 is not gonna cut it. Volvo EV SUVs are faster than that 😂 The RT needed to cost $45k to at least be somewhat competitive in the EV market. $62k is ridiculously high for what you’re getting with the Charger.

[@mike_johnson87]

@@Reginald_Harrison The Volvo EV SUV is in a different category. Just because they're both EVs doesn't make them directly competitors. Most importantly, the Dodge RT MSRP is 59.5k before EV incentives. Also, 0 to 60 in 4.7 seconds. Can the starting price be approved upon? yes, that's across the board, though. But asking for a starting price of 48k-50k seem more realistic and achievable. This is something I do believe will happen soon. Also the lunch vehicles usually always start off as the slowest version. There's plenty of potential here.💪🏿😤💯🙏🏿

[@Reginald_Harrison]

@@mike_johnson87 That’s my point. Volvo makes safe, and kinda boring family vehicles. They make 3 SUVs that are quicker than the “Muscle Car” Charger. They aren’t competitors at all but Electrification puts everyone on an even playing field. The Hummer EV weighs 9,500 pounds and gets to 60mph in 3.3 seconds ffs 😂. So, what does the Charger have going for it that justifies its price tag? The Fartsonic exhaust? 😂 Starting MSRP is $59,595 + $2k destination = a real MSRP of $61,595 for a zero option RT. They aren’t eligible for EV tax credits if you buy one, only if you lease it.

[@zipperbluez]

That design is begging for a V8, and I think offering a V8 option (even if it is nowhere near a volume seller) will instantly change the public perception of this car and give it a chance for success.

[@jlaw1901]

It is a beautiful design

The last model had a choice of V8's and there are still plenty sitting on lots if you want one.

[@sambonedallas]

A quick search shows those a v6s or have ridiculous markups a year after going out of production

[@andrewfast6530]

Won't fit a v8, I6 hurricane tho

[@grego7345]

​@@andrewfast6530a V8 WILL fit, Stellantis is testing a V8 Charger in Mexico right now.

[@tedjones-ho2zk]

Funny a company that has always had electrical issues build an all electric, theres a joke in there somewhere...

[@onnu2001]

Journalist-‘People love the current Blazer’. Reality-The current blazer doesn’t sell as many units annually as the old body on frame unit. Approx 400k units over 7 model years vs approx 100k units a year. Don’t let journalists warp reality.

[@TheOutdoorBeerReview]

They're not actual journalists... they're pundits who happen to work in the automotive space. Big difference. In fact, TFL reviews are waaaay more opinion vs facts if you ask me, which is the exact opposite of real journalism

[@Jag-leaper]

​@@TheOutdoorBeerReviewyeah I agree it's annoying to be honest

[@TheOutdoorBeerReview]

@Jag-leaper yeah and I've been watching long enough to remember Roman literally telling the audience "We require our presenters to have a journalism degree" which apparently went out the window when they started hiring people like Branden, Jen & Mary... none of them have one either yet they got the job.. funny how that works 🤷

[@Jag-leaper]

@@TheOutdoorBeerReview agreed, well Brenden's gone..... And hopefully Jen and Mary will follow suit because they are woefully annoying..... I miss the days of roman and Nate .....

[@tescoshortage]

Where the hell did you get that from? Chevrolet moved 50,000 Blazers last year.

[@timsouttahere]

If it wasn't fully electric it would probably sell

[@poodabran]

If it was V8, RWD and with no electricity......it would sell.

[@pacman1789]

There is a V6 variant.

[@timsouttahere]

@pacman1789 but it not available yet

[@pacman1789]

@@timsouttahere It will be this year. They've already started production on the "Sixpack" models.

[@TheLumpyOne]

​@pacman1789 its the 3.0 Hurricane Inline 6, not a V6.

[@rondail5675]

I like the styling of the new Charger. I don't like the price!

[@justindeclemente1130]

Self-deprecation, honesty, humility, objective and relative to the everyday consumer, Tommy is in a class all his own.

[@mirthenary]

The singer after Phil Collins? Don't you mean after Peter Gabriel? 'Cause nobody's heard of the singer after Phil Collins

[@johnsmithers284]

Maybe he's talking about Ray Wilson

[@sdmoparmaninsd6713]

I think he meant after Phil Collins joined

[@zachlafond2652]

he probably is thinking of Travis Scott

[@ArronMurray]

00:57 the new Ford Capri - Hold my non-alcoholic beer

[@10penn83]

Not against trying something new. This however, is far too expensive, stupid fake engine noise, no thanks

[@buckshot6481]

The EV mandate has been canceled and the first 50 Chargers delivered have bricked, dead. Stellantis needs a back to the future move and fast.

[@TFLcar]

What EV mandate?

You're brain was bricked on the way home from the hospital.

[@horseathalt7308]

@@TFLcar Globalists mandated it. WEF, you've heard of it?

[@horseathalt7308]

@@TFLcar How much did Stellantis pay you to praise this thing? Well maybe they didn't hand you cash but some kind of compensation..well? hhaa

[@BeanerMan3k]

@@TFLcar 17 states have an EV mandate by 2035. As a car review channel, you should be aware of this.

[@joeidalski6047]

Discount all you want, people don't want them

[@The.Thirsty.K]

Yes. To Alamo, Budget, Hertz, National etc etc etc

[@maukamakai6924]

Good grief. No steps forward and a ton backward.

[@dakotaparsell9867]

Dodge definitely could have done more with the hellcat power train, a hybrid setup like the power boost or I-force max. Which would make it way more efficient and more powerful.

[@mirthenary]

They could have at least done a transitional car with a hybrid system first before going all electric

[@michaelwaiwood5629]

I love the styling inside and out but it needs a V8 option and they should have started with ICE versions first. Then down the road the could have offered the EV when it was actually ready and could use it to offset there fuel numbers from all the hemi versions.

[@mkgunnells2987]

The electric Charger exists for the same reason the Ford Lightning exists; government mandates and incentives. Get rid of the these and these electric devices fade into the background. Electric cars are not green. Look into what it takes to make the batteries for them, especially the lithium.

[@AStanton1966]

On top of this carbon only makes up 2% of our atmosphere!

[@leenichols132]

It’s actually about .04% which is double what it was before the Industrial Revolution. It is also increasing at about 100 times faster than ever before. This seems like a really small amount but carbon is really got at absorbing heat and not letting it radiate back into space.

[@AStanton1966]

@ Look up the Great Dust Bowl back in the 1930's when it didn't rain for 10 years and the IC engine was hardly breathing.

[@mikeschmidt3382]

@@leenichols132the trapped heat caused 6” of snow in Florida.

[@wright1048]

Maybe they have pushed the hemi V8 to it's limits, but that engine was pretty much the only thing they were doing right. You take that away and what have you got?

[@iceman45ification1]

I don't necessarily hate this new Charger. I actually love the body style. It resembles the '68-'70 Charger more than the current. Also, electrical motors have more than proven themselves performance-wise. What I don't like is the battery situation. As soon as those batteries go bad, you can pretty much kiss the entire car goodbye. I'm not willing to spend the price of an entire new car just to replace them. When they decide to bring back the Hemi or use an entirely different V8, they'd sell like hotcakes.

[@DanielDaniel1]

For 70k you can get way better EVs. That’s a huge problem.

[@mike_johnson87]

​@DanielDaniel1 What's way better? And, the starting msrp is 59.5k before EV incentives of 7500+. So I get it, most people want a V8 but the complaints are still mostly built off of bias more that facts.

[@tescoshortage]

@@mike_johnson87Can’t believe I’m about to say this, but Kia, Hyundai and Tesla all have faster, more practical EVs for less money.

[@ilcoolj12]

The biggest downfall of this Charger is not that's electric, obviously purists are not happy the Hemi is missing. I think the real problem to call it a "muscle car" it needs to do a burnout. This was a missed opportunity on Dodge's part, now we know they're working on that... Still a missed opportunity none the less

[@MisterMonsieur]

*That startup sound is ABSURD!* 🤣🤣

[@SeanDuu]

It's some 800 lbs heavier than my Ram 1500 rcsb 5.7 4x4 or my Grand Cherokee 5.7 4X4, what the heck.

[@johanchastain]

I'm a huge Mopar fan have owned 7 dodge products, but for me an electric charger is a big fat NO not ever .and the muscle car sounds is plumb embarrassing.

[@ilcoolj12]

Maybe its time to roll out a Hemi Gen 4 ????

[@plutodestroyer12]

not even crazy about the redesign

[@BYLRPhil]

Tommy, I love what you guys have been doing at TFl. I’ve been watching since the beginning when Andre used to show up speaking Russian. Keep it up

[@jeffdanilovitz10]

It should be Genesis after Peter Gabriel

[@John_O_Maoilearca]

He meant that - and he would have still been wrong.

[@JM21999]

Ultimate miscalculation by the euros in the rush to force feed us EVs . Thank goodness it is a flop to be honest.

[@IconicSwooshes]

It doesn’t mean that it’s good either.

[@rickp6391]

The 2026 six cylinder version better be priced similar to the old 3.6 version. I rather have even a base 5.7

[@joshknutson16]

Yea that’s not gonna happen

[@norwegianblue2017]

At least the 5.7 could be easily modded.

[@sdmoparmaninsd6713]

@@norwegianblue2017 There's nothing more easily moddable than a turbo engine buddy. Turn up the boost with a tune....

[@VictoriousNerd]

I 100% agree with you that people would support a gas (specifically V8) version of this car. It does look nice. It's got nice lines, a nice stance. I don't think you even need to do a big V8. Even a 4-5 liter would still be great.

[@aerynlovell4754]

The problem with this Dodge electric car is that most people call it a Charger, but Stellantis named it the Charger Daytona. To me, it would be better for Stellantis to just call it the Daytona EV and save the Charger name for a future internal combustion car. Stellantis doesn't seem to understand their customers, the emotional attachment people have to the classic Dodge Charger, or the difference between a musclecar and a sports car. If Stellantis is serious about building an electric sports car, then they should build an EV version of the M4S. The Dodge M4S designation stood for "Mid-engine, 4-cylinder, Sport“. The M4S was designed to achieve a drag coefficient of .236 with a top speed of 200 MPH using a mid-engine 4-cylinder. I believe that a new M4S Dodge "Interceptor" could be a great car if it used a similar architecture to the McLaren P1. I would like to see an EV Dodge Interceptor with a mid-engine 4-cylinder and electric motors for the front and rear. If Dodge built an EV where you can drive only on the internal combustion engine or only on electric power or send the combined power from electric and internal combustion to the wheels it could be a great (fast) car. The modern trend of using internal combustion engines as electric generators is ridiculous. If an internal combustion engine doesn't run for long periods of time (to reach normal operating temperature) at least once a month then it doesn't get hot enough to burn off moisture and it damages the engine. McLaren got the EV formula right with the P1 and if Stellantis executives were smart, they would copy the idea but build a sports car that is less expensive than the P1.

[@kmrtnsn]

It’s a joke, so much so that banks won’t even finance it, its depreciation risk is so high.

[@dylanallen8712]

Why would you want to buy one is the question? Id rather just get a tesla or a bmw i4 if i want electric

[@PatB-ce3yv]

Your devil's advocate argument is voided by the fact that the car is fully electric. That is the problem.

[@shanevanc]

It should've been the new Chrysler 300

[@JordanOwens107]

Nice but no

[@mustang131radio]

The EV market is dying. Needs a V8.

[@Bum_Hip]

What metrics are you using to say the EV market is “dying”?

[@mustang131radio]

@Bum_Hip without the free government money, who can afford one?

[@Bum_Hip]

@ the tax credit has not gone anywhere.

[@mustang131radio]

​@Bum_Hip it will be gone. Time for the EV's to live under a free market.

[@Bum_Hip]

@@mustang131radio like oil companies! No wait, they get BILLIONS in subsidies every year. You knew that right? And he’s not going to take away the EV credit until his sugar daddy Elon tells him to.

[@mike_johnson87]

Mark my words, this new platform will succeed. Minor changes are needed, and a V8 hybrid would be awesome. However, this platform is nice.🔥🔥🔥 They knocked the design out of the park, inside and out. With new ownership and some added development resources, I'm sure Dodge can come up with something great. They have proven to be capable, lets not forget that the SRT team has been disbanded but not destroyed. Those individuals still work within the company on different assignments but with a snap of the finger. They could very well be back together sooner than you think. It wouldn't surprise me if it happens very soon. Because they would be fools to waste this new design with huge potential.

[@Michael-1337]

Nah its toast. Already has massive discounts and significant issues with the electronics. Several confirmed bricked cars with less than a 100 miles on them already.

[@Wezi427]

You need to fake engine sound...🤭...that tells me something

[@glosario7]

0:50 just have some more respect for your dad

[@mpeugeot]

Short Answer: No The 2.2 Charger is likely to have sold more units once the dust settles.

[@gsyl655]

Legacy automakers should just merge their EV segments and focus on building out the vehicle shells and EV chassis separately, then making them interchangeable. I'd pay $25K for a chassis if I knew I could buy a Ford Mustang shell for $15K (any retro year of my choice) or the shell of a VW bus for $20K, etc. It could be like when they build monster trucks, only with more sophisticated shells. The key would be to focus on shell designs, so people want to change them every other year. So instead of buying a new car every 8-10 years, you can buy a new shell every 1-2 years.

[@gazzyT644]

Can’t wait to see $20k+ discounts on this one.

[@Luke-w5q]

Straight six Hurricane is not gonna sell either. Paired with this huge and heavy body it will be too slow, and will be lacking noise and character. They would need to cancel this thing altogether, redesign and bring it back with a new generation of V8, maybe hybridized or turbocharged at least. Otherwise Dodge is dead, and that totally sucks. Hopefully Jeep will learn a lesson from this flop and will cancel their ev Wrangler equivalent project before it's too late.

[@DennisH22A]

I'm surprised the charger doesn't have a feature that shakes the car at "idle". Or even a fake gas tank that you can fill up at gas stations and not look like an idiot.

[@sdmoparmaninsd6713]

fake gas tank? Congrats on making the dumbest suggestion I've ever read...

[@horseathalt7308]

@@sdmoparmaninsd6713 Stellantis is dumb too though? lol

[@duckdog38]

I love that idea. Add an electric fuel pump to the tank so when you get home, you can fill up your lawn mower, and this charger won't be totally useless!

[@scottthuma627]

The fact that the new Dodge Charger went through the entire process of being designed, built, and delivered to dealer lots with a 60k - 90k price point shows just how out of touch corporate America is with ordinary people.

[@poly_g6068]

You can't say the bad handling and massive weight is on brand then say the silent cabin isn't a negative

[@Jose_cab]

The price is what’s going to kill this car. It makes no freakin sense.

[@kevinbarry71]

if you want an electric car there are certainly superior options available. This is after all, a Chrysler. Not generally renowned for the quality of their products.

[@icky_thump]

13:27 the external "exhaust speaker" sounds soooo bad. The audio quality sounds compressed as hell, and the transition between modes where the audio just hard cuts out just makes it sound like its loading a different audio file.

[@timbaer8525]

I’d like to see some demographics on Charger sales. I think where a lot of them get sold and end up residing, aren’t places that are going to support an EV so well.

[@houstoncowdog]

Agreed, not many tax payer subsidized apartment complexes have charging stations.

[@josemiguel8149]

Instead of bringing in a Peugeot EV they turned the charger into a Peugeot EV….😂

[@Sedan57Chevy]

They should've launched the electric version as a Chrysler 300, where being a stylish, comfy and quiet cruiser would've made sense. The Dodge version should've launched with the Hurricane 6, and then later down the road, launch an ev version that makes the power to perform competitively against other performance EVs.

[@mzinns]

Tommy says “it won’t do a burnout” then shows it doing smokey 4 wheel burnouts and donuts. Dodge could make this a popular car, but not $60,000.

[@spcneary]

If this car came out in 2019 and sold alongside the regular challenger for 35-60k it would have been a great seller. In 2025 when you can buy a Hyundai that is faster, cheaper, more efficient, more spacious, and charges better I don’t see how anyone buys one of these things.

[@hissingoose]

Who would buy something this complex from a company with known technology issues and not even be around with the same ownership in 4-5 years if that.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

EV enthusiasts will buy it, but the price is ridiculous. Stellantis basically targeted the upper end Dodge buyer who was willing to spend over $50,000 on a Dodge when they should have been targeting the sub-$50,000 buyer. The $50,000+ crowd expects a V8 engine.

[@inconspicuous7464]

At this point, Dodge should just refund the few people who bought the car and take them back to undo this blemish to their legacy.

[@TheDrMayonnaise]

After buying a Ram 1500 with just the standard output Hurricane I am cautiously optimistic about the 6pack cars. For them to be successful they need to be priced right and they need to be tuneable from the factory unlike the S650 Mustang and if Dodge does this I think the cars will sell really well.

[@mistertrick]

i can agree the car is gonna go through teething issues, but there is a segment of "car enthusiasts" that are the types that are just mad for the sake of mad without giving anything else a chance I hope the EV and the Sixpack work out, this is an actual nice review and overview of the whole situation without really going into baiting views for the sake of it

[@jasonknowledge8824]

Prices aside, I absolutely love it! I don't love the EV variant. EV charging times. EV range is also a thing. How can you emergency evacuate in a 300 mile range EV that takes hours to charge? The only thing that you can do in a hurry in an EV is 0-60

[@waynek805]

They went in the wrong direction. The problem with the Challenger was that it was too big and heavy. Now they have a new 2 door Charger that is even bigger and heavier. Regardless of engine, it is a big heavy pig that will not be a competitive performance car in the current environment.

[@figmo7494]

I like your comparisons!

[@harveybirdman74]

It's like a gas-lighting DEI hire in car form.

[@Bum_Hip]

Did you know what DEI was short for before you googled it to reply to me?

[@steveam29]

Tommy you are a true professional. One of the best. Don’t listen to the hate.

[@erictate8986]

This Dodge Charger EV car is DOA already !! And Even when they start to Offer it with a new TT Hurricane 6CYI engine that's been problematic it's a hard pass !! People still want to see that Proven Hemi V8 engine, and possible a new dependable V8 engine as well, and turnable !!! And this car is still too expensive !!👎👎👎👎

[@charlesmathis3704]

Improve the handling and gas mileage along with the interior. Comfort + Performance = $$$ if it's not broken, don't try to fix it. Just give it style and options: V6 or V8 Supercharger. V6 owners can buy an aftermarket Supercharger for their V-6.

[@sungbaek3526]

Its probably not as bad as some of the reviews, but the main thing thats going to make it not sell is the price. I checked one out just yesterday, 75k for a non scat pack and they want a 5k markup too.

[@bettymaverick1098]

You got it correct. Price, capability, function and competition. Not competitive. Who wants a slow expensive sports car with a bad reputation. I hate the fake sound. Better options.

[@heavyearly2232]

Since the Tesla model S was competitive with the Demon, it probably seemed like a good idea. They certainly got the styling right on this - wow.

[@raddrider4466]

You mentioned the Chevy Blazer, which my wife just got. You were right on point. As a "Blazer" it is disappointing. As a Chevy SUV it is great. My wife had two Equinoxes before. We went with the Blazer EV because it had the heads up display that my wife has had since here 2003 Buick Rendezvous. The styling of the Blazer is the best of the Chevy SUVs and if you noticed. Chevy has stepped up the looks of Trax and the Traverse. On what Dodge is doing. They have great style, but I just don't trust their quality. I just got last summer a 2020 Jeep Gladiator. Since it is a Stellantis / Jeep product I made sure that I got a great price and that it was the most base model I could get (less to break). 60-75K for a Dodge car is not going to happen.

[@ryansmithza]

Too expensive, too slow and over specked. This was just bad market research. There’s an industry standard showing everyone exactly what to do to succeed in selling electric cars, if you’re not trying to beat Tesla at its own game you’re losing.

[@rogerrussell9544]

Have they sold 100 yet? Last I heard they only had 92 sold.

[@Insanity_Crow]

We bought our Charger for just around $25,000. 300HP, 30MPG on the highway, quiet, comfortable ride, and thus far it has been good to us. STARTS(?!) at 60k? Automakers have absolutely lost their minds. People can't afford this! You have to be upper class to afford anything fun anymore and it needs to stop. Flop.

[@lavilev9961]

im at the 6:18 mark. Im a prev owner of W220 06' S55 for many years, sold it last year. You are selling me on this car ATM! 😳😳 LET SEE and thank you!

[@jamesgray143]

three big issues: 1st) They stopped the formula of challenger 2 door charger 4 door. We have now lost on of the best 4 door fun cars 2)too expensive 3) you should not try and upset your core base. the chevy blazer has for a long time sold to a wide range of people. not the same with charger.

[@jeffrey_live1748]

I'm looking forward to seeing one in person. It looks great in pictures. I've driven an Ionic 5N and absolutely loved it. For the price and "muscle" of this I'd expect more performance though. I can't imagine picking it over an Inonic 5N.

[@rpsmith2990]

If you want to understand how quiet an EV can be, you have to go big, even bigger than the Charger. I've tried the Spectre, and the Charger is no Spectre as far as quiet goes. It's pretty good when you turn Fratzonic off, but there's a layer of noise that the Rolls-Royce simply doesn't have. Also, if you look at the price of a car as a function of size, the price tag of the Charger makes a bit more sense. You have pointed out the size of it, without mentioning that it's about ten inches longer than a Model S, and even more than that beyond the Model 3 that everyone compares its acceleration to. Frankly, the room and size of this car is a taste of the way things used to be. I'd like to seem them go even larger, with a similarly retro themed Chrysler New Yorker with more wheelbase, longer overall length, and inspired by the `970 models that looked a block long, half a block wide and about two feet tall. I'd even argue that it's time for an even bigger Imperial, especially if either of these could match that Rolls-Royce silence. Oh, and convertibles, because what we need is a big Chrysler convertible. I don't know if it will sell, either. I know that after the rational efficiency of modern EVs, I like the Charger, it's fun in its own way. I'd debate wheter the R/T or Scat Pack is to my taste, but it may come down to tire size for me. I tend to find the limits of grip on the road...

[@shockracer]

Three lineups would be perfect. One EV, one with the I6 Hurricane and one with a hemi. The public will navigate to the best one and also warm up those who are hesitant about EVs.

[@scorpy2643]

As a multiple EV owner and someone who won’t go back to gas: Tommy is right. It’s a drivetrain from 5 years ago with pricing to match. The EV world has evolved past Dodge’s target here. They need faster charging, better acceleration, and a lower price.

[@bikebudha01]

Had they just taken a stock Challenger, done the fancy 'front hood wing' thing, they'd sell in droves. But instead, the MASHED the Challenger and Charger together, and it JUST DOES NOT LOOK RIGHT.. And thus won't sell.