What The HECK Is Happening To The Car Market!?

[@drwisdom1]

Excuse me, but Tommy said he "never had an accident." Probably my most favorite episode of TFL was when Tommy backed their Tesla into the the corner of their bay/studio. Realizing his mistake he had the most entertaining come apart I have seen filmed. It spawned multiple episodes over the trials and tribulations of getting Teslas repaired and the insurance issues. The total for the fender bender was over $10k and months of delays. In my book that qualifies as an "accident."

[@is6566]

He meant an accident where he was traveling on a road. He redefined the word “accident”. 😃

[@benblakeney7418]

@@is6566 Or he meant on his record if they didn't report to insurance...

[@MattKremer39]

That was epic especially considering that car had 9 cameras and 1 inflated ego driver. hE mEaNt hIs dRiViNg rEcOrd

[@thoughtloop1737]

How about the time he broke the land lovers 2nd 20" wheel after some else broke one.

[@is6566]

He didn’t break the wheel. In both cases the tires were punctured.

[@NoLimitsCommemorativ]

@19:14. Man, I just found out my dad has stage 4 lung cancer today, and I needed this laugh after losing my shit. Thank you for this ❤

[@Arexodius]

I'm sorry to hear that... But please don't lose hope! There's a lot that can be done even at stage 4. One of the most effective solutions to any cancer is actually long term water fasting. Go on the internet and look for "the truth about cancer". You'll find a wealth of information that oncologists are never exposed to. Unfortunately, the medical system is rigged for profit, not for effective solutions. And most doctors don't realize this or simply don't care. And those that do are usually ostracized and tend to lose their licenses. It's sad, but you can't blindly trust your doctor. To get the best medical care you need to actually educate yourself sufficiently. That's why online resources like the one I mentioned are so helpful. Wish you the best!

[@briancavanaugh7604]

46:50 The fact that most people do NOT have a garage full of more capable trucks is a great reason to NOT by the Maverick as they will need a "truck" to do "truck" things. I agree with Tommy 100%. For 20-25K the Maverick makes a ton of sense. For the price of 37K I can get very well equipped 1/2 tons from Ram and GM and Ford(not MSRP but actual sale prices.) MPG is about the only thing I can think of that makes this make sense, and once again not for 37K.

[@is6566]

The Maverick was great value when Ford originally sold (a few dozens probably) for $19k or so. Then they kept raising the price and it’s a complete rip off if you think the financial side through.

[@Bonanzaking]

Thing is the Maverick was announced before the government went on a money printing spree and that 20k price became untenable. It’s a fairly capable truck much like old school rangers for reasonable stuff. It’s good enough for plenty of businesses from pest control, to plumbers as many tradesmen don’t need a full size truck. Plus the bed is pow enough to the ground to make getting stuff out of the bed easy like the old school rangers unlike unpractical full sized trucks when it comes to bed height.

[@EmmyJune212008]

I just can’t get excited about anything as big as the 4Runner with a 4-cylinder engine.

[@bt7482]

I thought I would be looking at a 4Runner by this point in my life but I'm happily shopping a Honda Odyssey Elite with a lovely VTEC V6.

[@leechburglights]

People couldn't get excited about a 6cyl only 4Runner just 11 years ago, now they are buying them up before they're all gone.

[@SunnynPhilly]

The 4.7L in the 4th gen 4Runner is the same engine as the 100 series Land Cruiser and Lexus LX. Both assembled in Japan ( unlike Sequoia and Tundra). Only downside is the engine bay is kinda tight in the 4Runner with the V8. I’d get a 4L V6 4Runner or a well kept garage queen LX from an older person if I wanted the V8 100 series.

[@spcneary]

Rant starting at approximately 29:00 is so true and annoying to me. I am an enthusiast, I despise the modern turbo/auto stuff. No fun and I will die on that hill. That said, I own and really enjoy EVs as well. I am blown away that people have embraced auto transmissions entirely because they are faster but do not like EVs at all. Manual NA>Manual turbo>EV>everything else

[@stevea3936]

I wanted to buy the trail Hunter Tacoma when they were announced. Then I saw the pricing and the California Toyota dealer additional $10000 market price adjustments. I just can’t do it. The 4Runner will be the same. The only advantage the 4Runner has is the fact that it’s JDM so unlikely that they carry the same issues the new Tacoma have.

[@benblakeney7418]

I just bought a 2024 Gladiator Mojave partly based on the reviews of the Gladiator TFL did with the long-term one y'all (yep, from TX) had. Jeep is having crazy incentives on them right now. The sticker was ~65k, and my OTD ~ was 45k, to which I then added a MOPAR 8yr/100k warranty for a little under 3k, bringing my total cost to ~48k. The new 4Runner OR that y'all just bought is 10k more? Not to mention how much the TrailHunter and TRD Pro will cost. It's crazy. Even the 25 Gladiator Mojave or Rubicon will be a bargain with their price reductions compared to 4Runner OR and above trims. Before the Toyota fanboys ding me (I am one), we own a 2013 Sequoia we love and if I could have gotten an NA Toyota SUV/Truck with the rear room and AC vents in the rear that Gladiator has, I would have gone that route. But the previous gen 4Runner doesn't work for me because the seats are too small. The real point I'm trying to make is that the value proposition between the Gladiator and the 4Runner is very off-kilter.

[@jayhiggins5239]

Should have bought extended warranty from Grainger Motors and saved $

[@benblakeney7418]

@@jayhiggins5239 lol I checked them, the dealer I was buying from and the MOPAR website. MOPAR was cheapest.

[@benblakeney7418]

@@jayhiggins5239 I responded before. Maybe the comment was removed. I checked out Granger, the dealer I bought from and MOPAR's website. I ended up with the cheapest, which may or may NOT have been the best price.

[@jdfleetguy28]

Very bummed about the Defender 90 leaving. It and the Ranger Raptor have been my favorites on the channel to look forward to seeing on the various channels.

[@RedHawkish]

isn't it interesting that -> People are already receiving their 4Runner but you have an embargo. Anyone who bought one can do whatever videos they want.

[@is6566]

Totally crazy policy by Toyota if you ask me.

[@C10sRule]

The Tacoma TrailHunter is high $80s, low $90K here in Canada!! It’s absolutely idiotic & I normally respect where pricing is, but these numbers are so dumb that they are actually sitting on the lots,,,,,. 😊

[@kennordsfan1494]

It is not only the Tacoma it is most of Toyotas line up that is priced ridiculous here in Canada. Plus dealers who continue to have these market adjustments is beyond ridiculous. Honda continues down this path of market adjustments as the Honda dealership said this is the new way of car buying lol. I was in for service and I can’t believe how stupid these manufactures think the public are. I wont set foot in a Honda dealership again unless it is warranty and I have less than one year left.

[@C10sRule]

@ - they don’t markups the prices here. It’s what you build it for on the website minus $400 as their fee is $599 instead of the $999 quoted on the website. No games, no “must take” security crap or warranty. You make your own decisions & they will answer your questions and consult on the vehicle. It’s still so expensive especially when you see the less expensive domestics also showing discounts. I bought a 24 Ranger XLT FX4 with the 2.7 V6. It was thousands less than a similar Tacoma TRD Off-road with the base engine. I’m not worried about reliability. There’s a bout 95 or more people that have no issues for every 4 or 5 that do. Even then, not all of those that have issues are serious issues. They are losing market share. The competition is so much better, almost literally now!! You can get a Chevy ZR2 Colorado as I would have built for $69,000 before negotiating. That’s a more capable vehicle for $20,000 less!! Hahaha.

[@Emmett1407]

lol, super fun episode guys, I laughed a bunch, great work!!

[@TFLtalk]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@johanchastain]

I'm with Roman I'm 61 yrs old and do not care for all this touch screen crap trying to figure your vehicle out ,and tiny buttons. Why are they trying to reinvent the wheel. If something worked for decades why the hell change it. Like ventilation controls with knobbs and radio controls with knobbs. It worked great was much quicker to use. Technologies are great if they make thinks better, but not if it takes your eyes off the road and take long. I can garrentee you i can change the volume on my radio much quicker with a knobb than u can with a touch screen same for ventilation

[@brucesmith8486]

When the car was invented, people with horse and buggy said the same thing and refused to change. Times change, gas powered cars are closer to the end, than they are to the beginning. Trumpsters can bitch and complain but times change, we can’t be in 1950 forever. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[@johanchastain]

I have a chevy Colorado AEV with a 4 cylinder diesel that has a delete def. That gets 30 mpg. And has front and rear lockers full skid plates. Why can't small diesel compete with hybrid vehicles

[@Jay-ns5ub]

The EPA and CARB

[@is6566]

They can’t compete for the exact reason you deleted your DEF. The EPA stuff. 😃

[@johanchastain]

I just think investing in the advancement of diesel engines would be embraced by the general public. I love my little 4 cylinder diesel and about the time we were getting small diesel engines they came out with the muffler juice (d.e.f.) it killed the small diesel market

[@jim76hr]

Sign dealer paper work four times sounds like hell in its self

[@EmmyJune212008]

The Vantage and DB9 of that era are among the most beautiful cars of the modern era and, arguably, of all time.

[@rk-xv4km]

We love the Ford Maverick hybrid awd! Roman is right on.

[@2151abell]

The RANGER vs Mavrick discussion is Absurd....Im with Tommy all day on that one.

[@benblakeney7418]

Wow. This is a multi-comment video for me - this is my third one. I agree, Roman, on having to go through screens to do things. My lease on a 22 BMW X5 just expired. I explored just re-upping with BMW on a new lease for another X5. I absolutely loved the X5 overall. There were only a few changes for the next one (move to Xdrive for the AWD and go with standard wheels and tires, as the staggered ones I had were too expensive to replace the tires). Test drove a 2025 X5, and they moved so much into the infotainment system that I said no thank you.

[@MugatuJag]

I really like I drive 7, I now have a Tesla and I'm sure that I drive 8 would be no problem. What did you inevitably choose?

[@benblakeney7418]

@ I'm sure the new X5 would not be an issue for you, it still has some buttons unlike Tesla. I ended up getting a 24 Gladiator Mojave that I got a great deal on.

[@kw91712]

That Aston is sweet. Love the exhaust sound.

[@toskin6395]

I’m of Roman’s generation, and this ICE/EV thing will pass just like cassette tapes did. When I was young, cheap speed was loud. That’s why everyone is harping on “feel” for ICE cars and trucks now - it’s what we grew up with. For our kids, cheap speed will be quiet. And that will be the yardstick until the next technology change comes along.

[@AndrewMcDonald]

Functionally, the new 4R is a step back. The electric motor pushed everything back inside, reducing rear leg room, and the hybrid battery reduced rear cargo area. Not a big deal for most people, unless those things matter to you.

I love the new ev Jeep Wagoner s.. perfect size... 200 kw charging speed is nice the question is where to charge it.. on a road trip..

[@Tware8100]

The Maverick is the equivalent to the Focus. So it's way more utilitarian than a Focus. The price is getting a little out of hand for sure.

[@markowens7743]

The rant by Roman at the end hit a nerve in me. I'm with Roman 100%. There is way too much useless tech in our vehicles, over the top crap, and frankly dangerous to the driver like your interior lighting issue in the Merc heading back to the airport. Thank you Roman.

[@malifestro3319]

I am with Tommy on 47:00 here. I've been talking with a mechanic and getting nice a comfy. There is SO many parts and labor you can buy for a used car for how much these new vehicles cost. Get a used full size before this Mav.

[@josephbarbato9668]

The 2012 Corvette was from the collection of David Ressler who passed away, so I am guessing they bid up to benefit his estate

[@thehumungus1985]

Great job guys!!

[@BitcoinMining-r1q]

Thank you so much for this amazing video! I have a quick question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (mistake turkey blossom warfare blade until bachelor fall squeeze today flee guitar). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@ssgtdelehanty2241]

I’d be cautious with comparing the Maverick’s MPG to the given EPA numbers right now. If you have the same experience i’m having with mine the cold really takes a toll. I have the fwd and over the summer was getting mid 40s. When temperatures dropped below freezing I was getting mid 30s, warmed up today a bit and the vehicle was showing 39. Come spring the MPG may be far more impressive for you.

[@timbaer8525]

It’s hilarious when a Toyota dealer lets you fill an ‘order’ for a vehicle knowing damn well that’s not how it works

[@is6566]

It shows an insane level of disrespect and how much they think such a looser the customer is. I would immediately find a different dealer to work with.

[@Backwoodsdweller]

Does Tommy have a company gas card? From the Jeep to the Range Rovers that he swoons over and now his panning of the Maverick, it seems like the cost of filling up his vehicles is irrelevant to him.

[@atmartens]

I’d assume any work trips gas would be covered but that’s a good point.

[@kevbecker672]

So do Denver 4Runners come from Terminal 4 in Portland Or ?

[@C10sRule]

Happy that you mentioned what your trade value was. Maybe someone can actually get a decent deal on it!! 😊😊

[@donschiffer7400]

As I understand it the 21% is only plug in hybrids or EV’s. It doesn’t include regular hybrids.

[@andrewshenton6541]

Bringing a lease in early depends on what the market value is iff your allowed to go 3rd party

[@maicolombia]

Damn, that insurance sucks if they wont insure someone just because they dont want to. Good point to note when looking for insurance companies.

[@Arexodius]

Roman's Rant Matter points were very valid in my opinion. You shouldn't *_have_* to even find workarounds and "solutions" to stupid oversights. Engineers are smart enough. They could figure it out so it's not stupid. But somehow they have their heads up somewhere and they probably can't do anything about that. The industry is being led by senseless blind men and the engineers are forced to go along with it. And the consumers, having gotten artificially persuaded over the decades into getting a new lease every 3-5 years, are collectively being muscled into a corner that the leaders of the industry have arbitrarily decided that they should want and that theme is *bedazzlement.* It's like a circus that escalates along with the pricing until something breaks and we're just about there already. Some innovations are a definite perk, but a lot of it is just some CEO's nephews' derailed pet project at best. I'm glad at least some manufacturers are willing to lend an ear to their customers enough to make meaningful changes. Anyway, that's my Rant Matter. *Thanks for another engaging episode guys! Love you both!*

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

"Nobody gives it a chance just because its Electric" - Yes. Roman - you say you don't care what powers the car. Thats great. The rest of the consumer market DOES care. In fact, for a significant portion of the car-buying public, the powertrain is amongst the first attributes that determine what cars we shop for. It's as important as deciding between a sedan and an SUV....

[@TFLtalk]

Roman says Value and Reliability is what most car buyers care about. Not the engine or motor.

[@VayaVosi]

@@TFLtalk I agree. The enthusiast care about the powertrain & its the enthusiasts that comment are car channels. But also, I am an enthusiast that loves a 4 banger with a popper. My 2 door jeep is basically an American WRX, it shifts faster than it has any right to and I couldn’t be more thrilled. I also like that Jeep is keeping buttons in their EVs. Jeep may be the car company to beat in the next 10 years.

[@benblakeney7418]

@@TFLtalk Maybe most people do not care about the drive train, but a significant minority do care. If all I did was city driving, an EV would make sense for my situation (owning my own house so I can charge it at home, shorter commutes, etc.). But the few times a year I take a long road trip, it's a deal breaker because of the charger network and time to charge it up. I would love a Rivian SUV (other than the air vents being controlled through the screen, I think it's fantastic). Also, many car buyers don't own a home and rent apartments where charging is neither at the cost of your electricity nor even available. There are many use cases the car-buying public considers for not buying an EV other than the very vocal political minority. These facts get lost in the politics.

[@is6566]

@TFLtalk every single driver cares about what runs the car the moment they start running out of juice and no working EV charger is nearby.

[@SunnynPhilly]

⁠@@TFLtalk Reliability goes hand in hand with drivetrain durability. Toyota expended the recall on the Turbo V6’s in the LX and Tundras January 2025. I’m sure being Toyota they will eventually get the new tech sorted but in the meantime informed consumers (Such as Andre) are choosing to stick with the proven reliability of the 5.7L V8. *not anti new tech or EV’s, I’ve got a Model Y for commuting. But for off-road 4x4’s I prefer proven reliability ( and the 4.7L V8).

[@amazingjason455]

Someone should tell Hagerty that Tommy is more mature than Roman.

[@robertdefilippi722]

I love hearing Tommy say the words “Glory Hole” ❤🌈

[@josephbarbato9668]

My pretty basic 2018 Silverado has at least 4wd auto, idk why it isn’t more common.

[@C10sRule]

It’s a clutch based system that wears out. If it’s used in a work truck or heavily like on gravel roads, it can fail. It’s a weaker transfer case. Just a few reasons. 😊

[@C10sRule]

The reason the Demons came down is they had some big dollars on a few cars. Then everyone with one wants that same money!! The market gets “flooded”. Classic cars are 25+ years old in my books. They get messed with as well! There was a time the 55 - 57 T-birds sold at Barrett Jackson for over $100K USD, now I can get one for less than $50K CAD!! Every possible one was restored and all to the same quality & specs. Nobody wants the identical car all of their buddies have!! 😂😂. It’s almost that simple. I didn’t get caught up with it fortunately, but I may be taking a hit on my C10/K10 collection 😮😂😂. I have 46 of them!! I have the cars & trucks, which some are climbing (F150/F100/F1) and I have some that will just retain their value like a 69 Camaro Z28 DZ 302, 69 Chevelle SS 396, it seems my Z cars are still holding their value,,, stuff like that, but I expect my “holdings” are about to drop by maybe more than 10%!!! 😮😮😮. OUCH! It actually doesn’t matter because I have each one because it is unique enough to add to the collection. It matters to me, but maybe no one else,,,, except maybe Tommy,, haha. 😊

[@josephbarbato9668]

@@C10sRule I’m pretty sure the 4wd auto on the Toyota 4Runner was also historically a clutch based system

[@C10sRule]

@ - that’s what I was getting at. I was just talking about auto 4wd and not the manufacturer. Didn’t think it needed to be spelled out.

[@derrickp]

@@C10sRuleI’ve never had an issue with the clutch based systems with 4wd auto. If you are truly off-road or stuck don’t horse in it with 4wd auto use 4hi or 4lo as the situation dictates.

[@1FiftyOverland]

If the maverick was a Toyota, Tommy would be drooling over it.

[@SunnynPhilly]

Yea, wish we got the Hilux Champ here, Toyota is leaving money on the table not competing in the sub 30k Ute/ pickup class.

[@lonerider5315]

It hurt me to do,but I had to try, 87 4runner turbo sr5 fired up 2nd crank at -22f 166k miles now😮

[@whiskeyfd7695]

As cool as the new 4Runner looks, it’s just an upseller’s dream. $45k SR5 cannot be optioned with heated seats despite the Tacoma SR5 offering a cold weather package for only $600. The first 4Runner trim to offer heated seats is TRD OR/Sport at $50k. 4WD Tacoma SR5 with cold weather package = $42k.

[@honda116969]

KO2'S best tires on the market for my truck 👌💯👍👍

[@andrewshenton6541]

For a lot of us guys we want an off-road looking vehicle,other than dirt roads or maybe going through the woods I’m not taking an expensive new vehicle off-road,but i love the rugged looks

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

me I want wagon with room to car camp in the back, fold down the back seat or 6' box mid size ute add a camper topper I dont need every luxury option in the books or a 3 row luxury family school bus s.u.v.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

the SR5 4Runner 4x4 can but will there be any under $50k

[@eiremerald]

It took me a few times to realize y’all were saying 4Runner and not Foreigner. I was very confused for a bit. 😂

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

Sad that you got rid of the Defender. We're now going on 8 months, 8000 miles on our 2022 Defender 110SE and have had no problems other than a small windshield leak that was taken care of under warranty. 4Runners are so boring. Even the new ones.

[@yetichris]

Tommy didn’t love the Defender enough to buy it from the channel!

[@jayhiggins5239]

Wagoner S should have been made to be competitive with the XC40 recharge.

[@Tbar24]

The interior of the 4Runner should’ve been more dialed back and refined. That design fits the Tacoma better.

[@Riffs24]

@36:00 because alot of Mfr. switched to a hybrid powertrain.

[@Tbar24]

Sucks that everything is like 10k more than it was 10 years ago. 58k for a trd off road 4Runner. Yikes. Still looking forward to seeing the videos when y’all get it 👍🏼

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

What I find hilarious is that the "hybrid" designation is nearly useless as far as measuring the "electrification" of the auto industry. The wife's Defender is technically a "hybrid" even thought he 48V battery is ONLY there to spin a supercharger (which is brilliant). If you didn't know this about the car - you'd never know it just by driving it. As for price before politics. You won't be able to PAY ME to drive an EV. There's no price I'd be willing to accept that would enslave me to the tyrannies of the EV.

[@briancavanaugh7604]

My 2017 Ford F-350 will not operate without it's batteries.............................IMO that makes it a "hybrid." lol

[@is6566]

Driving anywhere in the country on and offroad with a few cans of fuel in the bed is freedom. Scheduling my route to accommodate my CAR’s needs to recharge based on charger availability is lack of freedom.

[@kennordsfan1494]

If you look in Canada here, Tesla as of Feb 1st the price of a Model 3 is going up 9 grand, the Model Y is 4 grand so a Model Y long range will be 72 grand and a Model 3 long range will be 69 grand? As well as our version of the tax credit is gone last week which depending on are the credit was 5 grand to 12 grand all of those are gone. And has nothing to do with tariffs as some Tesla fan boys are saying. We can get a Honda Civic Hybrid touring for 38 grand? Why would someone pay double?

[@danbuckley4126]

Tommy forgot the Tesla M3 he wrecked

[@sweethands4328]

"mining" term 😂

[@is6566]

Funny enough but it actually is. It’s an excavation method for mining. Look it up.

[@AndrewBaker924]

I think the Electric Jeep Wagoneer S kinda looks like a current gen Jeep Grand Cherokee.

[@DearSX]

Tell me about good reliable new vehicles under $30k and who is not buying them! Like a base Toyota Rav4

[@honda116969]

2022 4Runner TRD off-road 4X4 premium 21K miles $44,000 that's what i would get! Last forever with bad ⛽ mileage 😂

[@0347kali]

How large has TFL grown? Seems like the platform has endless content categories. It would be cool to hear about the company's growth

[@greghale717]

You missed that podcast.

[@briancavanaugh7604]

40:42 That money did NOT disappear into thin air, come on. Having the feds spend other people money in the southern states for stuff folks don't want and won't use is not some great windfall. How about we redirect that SAME MONEY to infrastructure that needs updating, you know stuff ALREADY being used and needed. I'm sure folks in rural LA and GA are heartbroken about not getting those new charging stations...

[@EmmyJune212008]

Charging stations aren’t so much for people who live in an area. They’re for people traveling to that area and traveling home. I have no interest in buying an EV, but the purpose of fast-charging stations is greatly misunderstood and mischaracterized. If your area enjoys tourism, as my part of Georgia does, you need charging stations.

[@is6566]

@Emmy… Then let the local GA businesses build the charging stations in GA. If their financial interest motivates them to build charging stations they will build them.

[@johanchastain]

I'd be willing to bet it shares the same chassis as the charger. Furthermore hybrid vehicles should have came out a decade before all electric so the market could get charging stations in market with out federal government money. That's why hybrid is more popular cause the thought of a road trip u can rely the gas side until a person can find a charging station. The government should stay out of it. Let the market do. The government cannot shove electfication down our throat

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

With regards to Barrett-Jackson - my buddy goes to a ton of them and says "there is more booze and fake tits in the room than brains". Thus you get $300k plastic corvettes.

[@fl_atv_riders4455]

Are the majority of the 4runners going to be made in Mexico like the Tacomas are.

[@julioc.guevara3658]

They're made in Japan

[@fl_atv_riders4455]

@julioc.guevara3658 they used to share the same assembly lines as the Tacoma. But I hope you are right because Toyotas quality currently no better then the big 3 in America.

[@is6566]

Tacoma and 4Runner never shared same assembly line. Taco was built first in USA and then both in USA and Mexico at same time then it was moved to Mexico 100%. The 4Runner was always built in Japan.

[@is6566]

In the USA pure EV sales in 2024 accounted for 8.1% of total sales, up from 7.8% share in 2023. Information from Cox Auto.

[@JacobVanderaegen]

Ford Maverick Lariat is more expensive than a Colorado trail boss in Canada

[@daweed980]

Tommy, you can't get excited about the 4Runner because everyone has them but yet you personally bought a JL Wrangler?? 🤔

[@ChristianPareATLAS]

17:00 these engines have major issues, and it is hard to find parts to fix those engines. You can wait 1 year or more for rebuilding 1 engine if you are lucky 3 months minimum. Nobody wants newer cars that don't run and have issues. Corvettes are reliable, and lots of customization is possible

[@drwisdom1]

Recently there have been stories about the inability to insure new vehicles like the Cybertruck. Now this video is saying that trend is also happening to used vehicles too. I have been driving for over 50 years and don't recall insurance being because of the type of vehicle, just the driver risk like too many DUIs. What if you buy a vehicle to only find you can't get insurance? Do we have to check with our insurer first before buying now? What if they decided to get just liability (no collision), would Tommy then be able to drive the Aston-Martin?

[@is6566]

Before I buy any new vehicle I always check with my insurance agent first by providing the specific VIN to see the insurance quote. I am doing this for the last 20 years.

[@elizabethhopkins3826]

I understand Roman's rants about the ambient lighting and the seat settings. I agree with Tommy, you can pre-set your seat settings and ambient light to what you like and keep it that way.

[@TFLtalk]

It's the little things, right?

[@benrhoads6406]

Boy Tommy's really heart broken over that defender.😮 Don't worry the 4runner won't let you down.

[@kennordsfan1494]

Have you seen Toyota’s issues the last 2 years lol? All of these new turbo and smaller displacement engines have proved to to be not too good. Just look at eh Tacoma sales? Have you seen the pricing along with amount of these trucks on lots? Toyota has fallen just like most manufactures.

[@drnick40]

EV’s shouldn’t be politicized. They are a wonderful thing because they give us more choices. Mandating or forbidding something is wrong. Mixing politics and cars doesn’t make any sense.

[@mbsnyderc]

Tommy doesn't get it your paying money to get all that bad tech you never wanted in the first place.

[@johanchastain]

Well i don't know what the hell an ice vehicle is. But I'm pretty sure you're a city boy. And I can tell urban fellow nobody in the country where I live drives that crap. But that's what it's made for people who live in the concrete jungle

[@benblakeney7418]

ICE - Internal Combustion Engine

[@is6566]

ICE Vehicles == Vehicles that guys are arriving in to do Immigration and Custom Enforcement work.

[@GaryRichards-cb1fc]

"Whack yourself over the head with a dead fish?" Roman is really being psychedelic. Wow.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@robervin9107]

Thank you lord. They got a Toyota. Yas kase will be hype

[@briancavanaugh7604]

So people don't shop used trucks because of warranties? Seriously? So who buys all of TFL's trucks when you guys sell them as well as the millions of other used truck sales? Come on Roman.

[@marcstruglia5910]

Y'all ought to comb your hair when you get out of bed.

[@johnwillome1840]

When it comes to disagreements between Tommy and Roman, I normally agree with Tommy, but on the Maverick I am completely with Roman. I have a 23 Maverick hybrid and live in Texas. Most of the year I get a minimum of 37 miles per gallon at the pump, usually more. This time of year it does struggle a little more even in Texas because the engine has to run to run the heater. Drive this thing around in April through October and you will be in love with it. Or move to a more southern climate and you’ll love it more of the year. I hope y’all hold onto yours long enough to do another Denver 100 in April or May.

[@pault7977]

I like the 4Runner but I'm with Tommy, not sure trading the Defender for a new 6th Gen was the best decision. From a content perspective, really how different can it be from the Taco you had?

[@FatalAnimal]

The 4runners fulltime 4wheel drive is an ON-road feature not an off-road feature That is why its part of the Limited trim and not the off-road trims. That would be my guess

[@GaryRichards-cb1fc]

You guys are great, but you both look like you just rolled out of bed. Funny.

[@greghale717]

That was what I was thinking. That opening was a trainwreck! LOL

[@johanchastain]

Nobody gives them a chance Roman because only a very few people want an all electric vehicle. It's a no for me. (Never) but what i want to know that Nobody talks about is how many people buy on buy a 2nd one? I'm no generalist but I hear the people stupid enough to buy 1 Never buy a 2nd one

dude I have a Tesla model 3 after owning over 25 ice cars in my life.. I will never go back to ice..why.. because ev's are a better mean s of transportation than a ice vehicle.

[@is6566]

@johan… EV association funded study showed that only 1% of EV owners want to go back to ICE. McKinley consulting company study showed that about 46% of current EV owners consider going back to ICE. 😃

[@greghale717]

This podcast was all over the place!! Is the new studio layout distracting???

wow Aston Martin.. way to go...cant wait to see the reviews..

[@gordtulk]

Maverick is attacking mid and small suv owners along with light tradespeople. Those segments see a lot of utility in it - hauling nursery/gardening materials and carpentry equipment etc but still easy to drive in city/highway. New vehicle, relatively cheap to buy and run. This segment really doesn’t want to be nickel and dimed by and off-warranty used vehicle.

[@billjordan3639]

Money laundering 17:42

[@boganpainter1638]

I don’t understand why Toyota offers the Tacoma in manual, but not 4Runner.

[@jakethesnake9973]

When will Stellantis learn they have ZERO clue what the American market wants. They need to sell the brands back to someone. No one buys a jeep for luxury. A jeep that’s can’t at least act like it can off-road is useless.

[@JeepAndThings]

Maverick is a great little truck. Tommy, your wrong. 😁 We love our 21 XLT, and the payload is more than a 2015 Power Wagon truck. Great MPG.

[@jonathangully8291]

Tommy forgot that he smashed up the Tesla’s rear panel a few years back doing a slip test I believe. That’s probably enough reason for insurance to deny him. lol 😂

[@Evan_Land]

That plant in the middle of the table needs to be a car, otherwise the new setup is nice.

[@zachlafond2652]

Taking advice from Tommy is like listening to my 17 year old son.

[@1FiftyOverland]

Toyota is so lame

[@MatthewTheCCMA]

Why does anyone what you think you troll?? This is about a Ford? Little slow or dense?

[@1FiftyOverland]

@MatthewTheCCMA huh? Fix your sentence, and then I'll answer.

[@davidwalker72]

I agree. They're great cars for those who just want something "good." It's builder grade of cars.

[@nlken7175]

Tommy is out of touch in the real world. He been living in youtube land for his young life with the best vehicle's at his fingertips. Listen to Dads experience tommy.

[@is6566]

And still Tommy seems to have more common sense than Roman, when it comes to car prices for example.

[@joshknutson16]

Yea didn’t need the defender tho you’ve already done enough with them

[@TheMamonti1]

just be thankful the yugo doesn't return for 60k!

[@stevea3936]

Stellantis clearly does not understand Jeep customers in the US

[@Irwin_Fletcher]

The electric Jeep will be a very limited market. The best part of having a "muscle car" is the exhaust note every time you mash the throttle. To me, it's just another Tesla.

[@GuyIncognito1]

How is a 4 cylinder Jeep a muscle car exhaust note. Most are 4 cylinder or 6