Is the NEW Gorilla Mode formula worth the hype?

[@Exercise4CheatMeals]

Get The New GM Preworkout Formula : bit.ly/gmpre2 (Code E4CM for 10% off your order) Orange Rush was not put into my initial shipment, so I didn't know it was releasing. I will come back to my pinned comment and let you know my thoughts once I try it! Also, I will post Dereks product breakdown video here once it is uploaded!

[@Olmekc]

I’m back after drinking this (cherry blackout) for a week. This reformulation is a huge disappointment. The salt is incredibly overwhelming. They should remove it. I’m considering finding a comparable pre-workout ingredient wise due to the salt. Disappointing because I’ve been drinking this for years now. Edit: if anyone has a comparable pre work without the salt please let me know. I’m not sure I can stick with this because the salt really ruins it for me.

[@6r1nch4]

love the science Derek puts into his products

[@User-CCA]

Yeah like his turkesterone, oh wait

[@Piznick64]

​@@User-CCA he doesn't really promote it

[@jakegordon2887]

"They should call it, like.... Grape... Ape?" Derek MPMD: WRITE THAT DOWN- WRITE THAT DOWN!

[@areichental]

Do you have an ape drape?

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

The "forbidden flavor name" if you catch my drift.

[@Kayohvaak7]

@@user-ue4he3li8b mpmd should do it then have a black gorilla mind athlete promote it

[@jaimeisreal]

In terms of types of vasodilation, there's iNOS, eNOS and nNos. For endurance athletes, you're looking for eNOS. You get eNOS strictly from agmatine sulfate. You don't need l-citrulline, which mainly does iNOS & nNOS activation.

[@GartB]

I’m not gay but I’m pretty excited for the new formula! Also, I’m gay.

[@RjTheTrigun]

😂

[@GartB]

@@RjTheTrigun Massive pumps incoming fellas

[@RjTheTrigun]

@@GartB I just ordered a 3 tub special.

[@GingerApe]

😂😂

[@villianaire]

After a refreshing tall glass of Gorilla Mode 2.0, you'll all be gay.

[@gurshanchohan8121]

Plz make anabolic cookies, prefferaly like subway cookies.

[@JackOfHearts42]

He has a super low calorie one, but I too would prefer one that is anabolic focused, instead of low calorie focused.

[@spikeimperial]

If his recipe uses any sort of protein powder. I would suggest trying muscle milks Gainer series if you are asking for a bulking cookie 🎉. I saw it next to my usual pro tub and thought man this would have been nice for my bulk in august😂😂. Apologies if I misunderstood though. 😊

[@Yepppppppp533]

I respect honesty because far too many people lie about a product due to working with the company. So Being completely honest is awesome. I love Gorilla mode it works really well!

[@MrDoctorTrey]

The "buzz" of gorilla mode products are likely to be completely gone from the removal of BOTH Kanna and N,N-Dimethylphenethylamine Citrate. Heart breaking choices from my all-time favorite creator and company. RIP to the OG formula.

[@Olmekc]

The buzz will be gone because of the taste. Salt with a hint of something else.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Dopamine is a helluva drug...now we just get SALT. Well, ok, and ALphaGPC (underdosed) and a big uptick in Tyrosine. But still...

[@MrDoctorTrey]

@@Olmekc I cannot describe to you how confusing this statement is. The product is going to lose its noticeable feeling of a “buzz” because of the addition of 1 gram of salt? How does that work? How does the flavor contribute to its physical sensations and effects on your body?

[@Olmekc]

@@MrDoctorTrey Maybe I misunderstood you. By "buzz" I thought you meant the general discussion around the product. Not the actual feeling it provides you when you use it. I drank the new formula for a week and the flavor of cherry blackout" is overwhelmed by the salt. Really tastes awful now. If anyone says otherwise its a lie. I MAY try one of the overly sweet flavors to see if it helps with the saltiness but its pretty hard to swallow now.

[@dextav3161]

@@OlmekcI just brought the grape Cotten candy, doesn’t taste anything like Cotten candy but it’s a good grape flavor! I use to take ghost who are known for flavor and I think this taste just as good!

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

No "Orange Rush"? That's the one I need to see since the "Krush" was my overall favorite and I want to know if they changed it. Krush was kinda "orange cream soda" like, not "orange Crush soda" like I told him in numerous email contacts to hit (cringe fanboying xD), but it worked out to my top spot. Cherry Blackout, idk, maybe I got a bad early batch that tasted like cough syrup and almost no cherry flavor, but who knows. The Old formula Grape Cotton Candy I got smelled insanely strong, like grape bubble gum, but as soon as it hit the water it looked like dingy dishwater and tasted weak and dingy, too, almost no grape flavor. One big thing I don't understand, is Derek talks about how the "flavor systems" are so hard to get to work with the ingredients. The fact I could mix in a relatively very small amount of Crystal Light GRAPE into some of that nasty tasting "Lemon Lime" (old man candy lemon, yuck, bro, just yuck! xD) and there was no discernible taste of the offending lemon profile. Same with Crystal Light Fruit Punch, just covered it all up, easy. He's got a weird sense of formulation, too, where he keeps putting overlapping ingedients across multiple SKUS so you can't stack them. Like if I could take MODE, MIND, the new Multivitamin, and Lock&Load all together in a day without worrying about overdosing some ingredients, that'd be great. Maybe he'll listen to an affiliate more than me since it didn't take. I mean, he should want to make money, so making stackable formulas should be the goal, right? Just boggles the mind.

[@trevorsrq6179]

There’s a new Orange Rush

[@DrippyCheesyForeskin77]

Krush as a favorite flavor?? U are wild

[@HangryPandaMike]

Will the new formula still give me the poops? every flavor I had, post workout I always have to take a poop after the workout. not sure why

[@theoriginalmikee]

Probably because of the artificial sweeteners, which haven't been removed. I have the same issue with Mode.

[@HangryPandaMike]

@@theoriginalmikee i don't have that reaction to another pre workout so its gotta be something else

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

The increased peristalsis from the higher-than-average amount of Citrulline is probably the culprit. Funny that other preworkouts or an actual physical workout didn't make you want to poop. Do coffee or hot showers not do it for you either?

[@Primal391]

They are doing this with the Nitric version?

[@lessforloans]

You remember the old school NOxplode ?? Gosh that was the best

[@dcosio97]

*Removes expensive exotic ingredients* Stonks: 📈

[@Felale]

*Increases the price* Stonks: 📈 As if supplement industry didn't have a big enough margin already.

[@hap1678]

any clue where to supplement with these? Like kanna and et ?

[@TheGreatMasculineJourney]

What do you mean ?

[@tjblackmore7863]

I loved mango peach but thought the bombsicle was disgusting. What do you think are the most natural tasting flavors?

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Bombsicle was literally latrine-toilet-mint flavor. He's gotta have a dead tongue or nose since almost all the old flavors are kinda trash, like even guy's favorite Blackout Cherry here tastes like nasty cough syrup, and the Lemon Lime was gross, as was the Mojito. Funny thing, I could toss Crystal Light grape/fruitpunch into the LemonLime and you couldn't taste the nasty. So much for "flavor systems" being some complex art, pff.

[@tjblackmore7863]

@@user-ue4he3li8b good to know.. I think the mango peach tastes great but it’s pump only, not stim.

[@tjblackmore7863]

@@user-ue4he3li8b what’s a pre workout that actually tastes good?

[@winstonyang8515]

@@tjblackmore7863mango peach or strawberry kiwi

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

@@tjblackmore7863At this point, with hte excessive salt in the new MODE formula, I'm looking at just buying all the main ingredients in bulk powders and using ZIPFIZZ as the flavoring (they have 15+ flavors) and "multivitamin" add-on. Bulksupplements has excellent AlphaGPC ime, just really bad herbs and horrible customer service. NootropicsDepot, CosmicNootropics, hit some of the ingredients but it was hard to beat the price of MODE of Creatine, Citrulline, and Betaine/TMG. Pity Derek seems incapable of realizing that stackability of his products would improve sales (along with competent, EASY AF basic flavors).

[@maximusnotsure8282]

7:36 Me at 2am trying to figure out if I have a pre addiction:

[@zlightning]

But is it as good as the OG DS Craze?

[@jman2781]

Brooooo. That Craze was awesome!! Damn that meth like substance! lol

[@jacks_at_the_gym]

Excellent vid bro. BlackBerry lemonade is so gas

[@animus76-k3j]

Everyone who's proudly expressing your love of this product they just took out one of the greatest ingredients in their pre-workout(dimethylamylamine)

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Dimethlamylamine/PEA only seemed to hit the first time I took it. I only noticed it again after taking 2+ months off from it. PEA is like that, tolerance builds up way too fast. It was kind of a salacious junk ingredient in that way, only touching on the legendary effect of PEA that once but then getting buried in the regular use expected from this preworkout. Unless you have a different experience? I mean, I used GM as a daily energy drink (citrulline, betaine, creatine are all daily's and it's cheaper than Redbull/Monster which have none of these ingredients) and it actually got boring because when taken as directed which just wasn't quite enough caffeine and I had to add my own Alpha GPC, ALCAR(Carnitine), and citrus bergamot, all which should have been in there in the first place (and he still fudged the reformulation on those, but hey we got Salty-AF reformulation so...)

[@thomasowens4844]

The alpha gpc probably helped with your rep prs

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

I'd say the triple-tyrosine dose did. Not sure if you're goofin', but don't sleep on alphaGPC. Try taking 1200mg (not the 800mg in this "new formulation"), it's the dose Derek would always mention as a daily amount he takes. Not sure why he short-shrifted on it. But that dose gets me writing and talkative, and thinking up new ideas for everything with ease all day long.

[@bjohns3961]

I can’t find one that tastes even close to good

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Old formula KRUSH was killer on ice, double the water amount, my daily energy drink.

[@ninji5226]

I only use 1 scoop of mode and 1/2 and 1/2 of mode nitric on work nights so more goodies per scoop is good, I guess?. I 'm not really stoked bout that much salt just for my pre when its hard to stay under my DV already for salt though.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Turns out all the "great pumps" we're going to hear about from the new formulation are from 2-cents of "SODIUMS". Triple the tyrosine and added AlphaGPC make it a winner, though. Just needs ALCAR and Citrus Bergamot.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

He really screwed up by adding in salt/potassium into his preworkout reformulation. There's no need for it plus he's just undercuting his other Electrolyte product he sells which could have driven sales on that for people that wanted to stack different items. His whole product line is unstackable, kind of weird tbh. It's like he doesn't want me buying MODE, Lock&Load, and the new Multivitamin which I would but can't due to too much overlap and overdosing.

[@Olmekc]

The salt is terrible.

[@theronjackson6940]

Should I take the pre workout and the creatine too.

[@davidcamargo9167]

Yes

[@Olmekc]

That depends on the pre-workout ingredients. Many (like this one) include it. 1 scoop of Mode has 2500 mg (2.5 g). The daily recommended dose is 5000 mg (5 g). So if you take 2 scoops you are set. Otherwise you’ll need to make up the missing half.

[@MultiDiceman]

yes

[@legend995]

It definitely taste better and is a way better base now. I have only had the fruit punch and it reminds me of red hi-c/Capri sun so much better than before.

[@legend995]

100% I have the blue razz and the lemon lime one of godzilla. I have only had fruit punch of the new gorilla and it's honestly one of the best pres I have ever had even better than some RTDs

[@SamMatthews-n7t]

Gorilla has always been too sweet for me, but I will always choke it back bc no pre compares performance-wise. Are these new flavors just as sweet or is it the same?

[@bigw1340]

Too sweet? 😂😂

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Old Formula "Krush" is tasty af in 64 oz of water on ice, and still holds up in less water, too. But yea, try it in more water. Great all-day energy drink and best price point for all the ingredients. Quadruple the value over Redbull/Monster.

[@TheDarkLasombra]

You said you take pre before every workout for 3 years. Do you find the effect has greatly diminished because of that?

[@pomp5330]

I’ve also been taking pre for years and short answer No. I keep it at 1 scoop of my pre and never increase above that. It’s when you keep increasing you lose sensitivity. Also, no purpose is being super stimmed out for every workout so chasing that “high” from your first preworkout is pointless anyways

[@kkrizzz]

A bit iffy to reference other videos where he gives honest reviews, to try to make this one seem as genuine. But the others weren't sponsors, so very much pears and apples

[@ssholum]

He was sponsored by Gorilla Mind when he did the energy drink and protein bar reviews (you can actually see his offer code in the thumbnail he showed at 1:30) He was sponsored or affiliated (can't remember) when he did the PE Science reviews. He wasn't sponsored by Anabar when he did those reviews, but did have a professional relationship with Remington James around the time the video dropped (they had recently done a massive collab with some other rising fitness influencers of the time). So naw, not iffy. Not definitive proof of his being biased or not, but no different from his position during the other videos. And yeah, I've been following for a long time, because this channel makes some of the best macro-friendly recipes.

[@belltheTACO]

Doesn’t the caffeine hinder the absorption of creatine?

[@lokipoki444]

Slightly. Don't worry about it

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Now ask every preworkout manufacturer that question. They all have caffeine and creatine... odd issue to point out after this reformulation since it's not even new.

[@Jason_The_Man]

I like the energy drink. I couldn’t remember the name and went into my store and asked for Monkey Brain! 😂

[@bigdaddygainz]

He took out the one ingredient that made this special. I’m glad the focus is increased, but without the Eria Jarensis, it’s no different than Godzilla, with a little more focus. Sorry, it WAS a decent pre, now it’s just like anything else at GNC. Overpriced and nothing special.

[@erior9662]

💯 For me nothing beats Pandamic 🐼 for a good pre.

[@unknownstrongman]

I think I might be the only one alive who doesn't like it. I usually only take black coffee before training. Daily creatine. The occasional pre. But this stuff made me sleepy and irritated. Weak in the legs during training and a lot of time spent in the bathroom. I think Derek is awesome, spent some time in this, but it did nothing for me. I compete in Strongman

[@Mr.Snaggy]

What about bomsicle

[@theschafershow]

It’s awful now :/ I used to love it but the flavor is terrible and insane caffeine + taking out kanna and Eria janesis is what made the old stuff unique. Derek sold

[@john_does_stuff]

Dude, I ordered the fruit punch 2 weeks ago. It was absolutely TERRIBLE. It tasted like i was drinking straight creatine monohydrate with barely any fruit punch flavor. I've been using this product (old formula) for years and have been hella loyal. Now, I contacted the company and they refunded me. So i took that refund and bought a tub of Orange Rush... so far the orange rush is pretty good. Overall, i feel like this new formula is a bit more "sodium"-heavy due to the added ingredients EDIT: holy shit... i just realized he literally added salt.

[@arkansas1221]

the watermelon flavor is gasssssss guys

[@Olmekc]

I just tried the reformulated Cherry Blackout. This is a massive step backwards in flavor profile. The salt overwhelms everything else. I can’t believe you didn’t mention this. The upgrade of other ingredients is nice but after the first day this is not what I expected. Hopefully it grows on me but this is a disappointment.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Salt...just why? WHY? And then non-stackability with all the other big hitters in his line up....because too much B-vitamins...just leave the B's in the multivitamin, Derek. Drive sales of other items by creating standalone, stackable formulas. It's like the guy has braindamage. I can't believe he has Mike Cernovich funding him and this is the trash he turns out after hitting it big with Vitamin Shoppe volume sales.

[@billrogers323]

Still gritty?

[@69nites]

Almost certainly more so. There are more actives.

[@jkey3835]

It shouldn't matter.

[@xKonscious]

I really did not like gorilla mode when it first dropped in terms of preworkouts. I just couldn’t stand the flavors I had

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

trash flavors, agreed. And their quality control is pure shite, too, I got nearly $1k in orders last year that were sent back for being tainted, causing food poisoning effects. Slippin'.

[@xKonscious]

@@user-ue4he3li8b this is wild. I’ve never had them issues. Just bad tasting flavors. And I consider myself to have a high tolerance for nasty shit since when I was younger I would eat home remedies to feel better from like the cold or flu. But i don’t know them flavors was just baddd. They flavors I had was tiger blood, pina colda, bombiscle and the worse one by far that I couldn’t even finish and still own is lemon lime. The mango peach bcaa is also disgustingly bad too. Couldn’t finish that either. It actually gave me stomach cramps and made me nauseous a couple of times both the mango peach and lemon lime

[@legion7875]

Well that sucks never had the product and probably never will if it has creatine because I’m allergic to it.

[@johnkim805]

meat has creatine?

[@SleepyPaul]

Salt is flavor.

[@_maze_4733]

Yeah this shit post not bias at all.

[@buzzin2472]

looks like you was snorting that PW lol JK you got powder on your nose lol

[@animus76-k3j]

This is a cash grab the price should be dropped they took out the dmae bring original back at least it's worth its price

[@manuelmejia1422]

Wait what happened to the cream queen??

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Tell us more...cream queen Nick?

[@manuelmejia1422]

@@user-ue4he3li8b his girlfriend he called her cream queen

[@coleeg69]

The taste/the mixing of the product is very bad. I personally don't like the taste of any of the pre. Overhype for me, but thats just my opinion. Dererk is great though!

[@killaaks6165]

Apparently it's better now because he removed kanna as it was a hard mask it's flavor

[@rampage222555]

Gorilla Mode has always hit right for the workouts, but the flavors were always dogshit. I'd rather have a less "efficacious" pre-workout that I can swallow without gagging.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Just top it with Crystal Light, grape and fruit punch masked the dogshit "Lemon Lime" I got stuck with with ease. "Flavor systems" being difficult seems like a cop out. The Old formula KRUSH was great, though, only one I can't complain about except Firefly Lemonade.

[@andrulifts]

Still has no Beta Alanine.

[@loopycrayfish]

Thankfully

[@MatthewBrisset]

Derek said in his breakdown that he doesn't put it in because most people don't like butthole itches. He said you should supplement with BA if you want it's minimal benefit and can endure the butthole itches.

[@Felale]

@@MatthewBrisset I got a bag of it and it hits way harder than the preworkouts that have it mixed in even when I put in the supposed same amount.

[@captredbeard]

Thank God.

[@afz902k]

BA is really good right before you hit the sack with your partner if you're gay

[@CapELarry]

grAPE flavor please.

[@iser72ify]

Of course 33

[@CrowandTempest]

THANK GOD he took the n-phenethyl dimethylamine citrate out of the formula! It was literally a DMAA derivative. Like the old Jack3d.

[@KingBoshXD]

n phenethyl dimethylamine citrate feels nothing like dmaa

[@CrowandTempest]

@@KingBoshXD dimethylamine feels nothing like dimethylamine 🙄

[@CrowandTempest]

@@KingBoshXDYou're saying dimethylamine felt nothing like dimethylamine? They're the same thing.

[@KingBoshXD]

@@CrowandTempest 1’3 dimethylAMYlamine and n phenethyl dimethylamine citrate are different.

[@IsaacGonzalezFit]

i read that like "THANK GOD he took the best ingredient cuz i cant stand a real pre workout womp womp"

[@ipittythefool79]

No BetaAllanine? Nope not for me

[@elpusegato]

🌈

[@IamLEGENDkb24]

As if the old one wasn't good enough? the old was trash!!! wayyyy over-hyped!! lol.. we'll see about this new formula..

[@gavinpersuhn5354]

Lol that's a cap

[@IamLEGENDkb24]

cap? lol nahhhh it was maybe a good beginner pre.. was wayyyy too over hyped = way overrated.. this new one could be much better...@@gavinpersuhn5354

[@Olmekc]

It’s much worse with all the salt.

[@IamLEGENDkb24]

@@Olmekc yeah this one is just still over hyped.. but been using dark labs product for a few months now.. that shit hit!!!

[@RoaringRory80]

Caking issues bruh

[@olivrrrr]

Still trash compared to OG jack3d/CRAZE

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

How you like that OG jack3d/CRAZE? Useable on the regular? No heart issues, tachycardia, high blood pressure, rectal gaping with profuse bleeding?

[@olivrrrr]

@thisis3379 It felt like you're on 2x speed with an added boost of strength that lasted for hours. However, it's not good if you're prone to anxiety or panic attacks. As long as you follow the recommended dose, you'll be fine. I think the people with those heart issues abused the dosages, IMO. It's a shame they banned 1.3dmaa in the US*.

[@yazanalnablsi9938]

@@olivrrrr what pre do u take now

[@bostonphil]

Junk

[@mystyboarder910]

Sad they added alpha gpc. Won’t be buying the new formula.

[@Redpitbull44]

Expound please.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Alpha GPC is the best change although it's still underdosed per Derek's own statement that he takes 1200mg daily which I've found is the perfect dose, as well. What issue do you have with Alpha GPC, might I ask? For me, it's better than caffeine in terms of mental energy and facilitation of cognitive ability in regards to ideation, creativity, and pure volume of writing output. I've heard that some people have "cholinergic depression" or something to that effect so maybe in that direction?

[@mystyboarder910]

@thisis3379 Alpha gpc makes me incredibly lethargic the next morning. If I take it 2-3 days in a row, I can't hardly wake up the next morning. Seems to happen to alot of people and is linked to excess choline.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

@@mystyboarder910 I feel ya. There's some neurotransmitter "checklist/questionnaire" floating around the internet that helps delineate your personal balance and what supplements may be good/bad for you. Derek and really any supplement company should present that as part of their website experience. But then you never really do know until you try.