Is the Pentium cool again?

[@chubbykid6112]

Green Ham Gaming Subscriber Count: March 2015: 100 Subscribers December 2015: 40,000 Subscribers. April 2016: 70,000 Subscribers Wow.

[@markom2837]

+Chubby Kid Yeah I thought the same too. His content is really unique and fun, that's why I guess.

[@theangrychilli5496]

Waah? Wait, only 100? I expected him to have like 50,000. But now hes got 40,000? This goes well with my youtube "burst" theroey. There is a point where your subscriber count matches your video count, and then one day bam, you wake up with 40,000. From there you will be at 100,000 in no time. Pretty soon, you might start living off your youtube videos. But thats all for the future. They can burst at any time, sometimes 3 months, sometimes years. Mine still hasn't bursted yet. Im at 9 subs with 12 videos.

[@MrReddragongamingHD]

+the angry chilli Here's another sub to get you to ten, let the dream of becoming the next PewDiePie become a reality for you

[@theangrychilli5496]

:_) thanks man.

[@spicymeatball3297]

+Chubby Kid Growing as fast as Haggard Garage.

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

Always loved this video, and here I am 6 years later wondering just how it compares to that i3 in the long term.

[@shapman280]

Me too, and I hope he is doing okay in whatever he is dealing it with his own situations in life. I do gotta say, this pentium in 2022 is a cool question to ask and experiment even though the answer maybe obvious.

[@satoshi649]

G3258 just built different

[@naufaldesantos9060]

A: Hi dude whats up B: Oh Hi A:What cpu are in ur pc ? B:Pentium A:Poor boy , i have core i3 bitch hyperthreading B: G Overclocked

[@pinkstuntguy4]

+Naufal De Santos hyper-threading does fuck all

[@naufaldesantos9060]

yup it is

[@Cam-dn9ed]

+Im Not Good Enough It does stuff, actually. It gives hardcore Intel fans erections!

[@Cam-dn9ed]

Intelgents Whichever works better! :)

[@Cam-dn9ed]

Intelgents I know! XD

[@jooroth18]

The radiator is more expensive then the CPU itself

[@mazedmarky]

that is hardly an argument since those things will probably last for 2 to 3 CPU gens.

[@NamAim1991]

100 subscribers in early 2015 and now almost 120,000 in late 2016.

[@alanchristian3839]

Your channel deserves much more views and subscribers. Keep it up man!

[@botbeamer]

+Zombie Gaming yea :)

[@ChrisD__]

+Zombie Gaming He has 12,760 subs now!

[@botbeamer]

Chris D when i subbed he had 8k n it was only like couple months ago

[@yomamastacos2123]

+Chris D over 37k now! 3x subs in 1 month

[@ocass66]

first watched this video in the summer of 2016. looking back i think watching this was what opened the door to me eventually building my first PC. it's been a pretty fun journey ever since then so thanks for making this.

[@vintovkasnipera]

In India (as a fact, no sarcasm): Pentium is for cheapo's and school usage Core 2 is for old-time gamers Core non-K is for smart gamers Core K is for people who want to blow their money. APUs are for people who work and play. FX is for the smarter gamers.

[@GraveUypo]

core non-k is worthless. you buy any of the recent ones and my 2500k will blow you out of the water.

[@RatbagTheCoward]

+GraveUypo Hardly. With all the extra power consumption, the extra stress you're imposing on your CPU and the money you'll blow on a top end cooler to keep the thing from nuking the house, you could've bought a superior non-K i7 instead.

[@GraveUypo]

kcipopnevets absolutely could not. i won't bother converting to dollar, but here are the prices: i paid R$ 500,00 for this cpu back in 2012. R$ 100 for the cooler. that wouldn't cover half the price of an "equivalent" non-k i7, which in turn would be a LOT worse than this cpu is. btw a new i7 to match this nowadays is R$ 1600. so yeah, there's that too. you don't need a top end cooler to do overclocking. never did, never will. there are PLENTLY of quality cheap coolers. what you shouldn't do is use the godawful intel stock cooler. even if you're running your cpu stock. seriously, it's terrible. an moderately overclocked cpu will run cooler with a cheap-but-good aftermarket cooler than a stock cpu with stock cooler.

[@RatbagTheCoward]

***** Mainly superior as in feature-wise I meant, oops. Synthetically, sure, the K Sandy Bridge i5 would keep up with most of the Core lineup until around Cannonlake but the stock i7-2600 would've been less ill-advised for only $50 USD more, with more instruction sets, better single core performance, and hyperthreading (FX-8350 can't compare ;P) But, only for the spur of the moment of course. Even then, the i5-2400 has proven to be an amazing CPU today and plenty of Core is quick enough for barreling through any task, but to each their own I suppose; you can never work too fast. More power to you!

[@GraveUypo]

kcipopnevets yeah, i could, no joke, use a cpu a dozen thousand times faster than this one for rendering in 3DSmax. but we have to make do with what we have available. for now, this is plenty for gaming.

[@shockslice7632]

You got lucky, if you hadn't have began with step 1 as making tea, I would have shut the video off immediately and written some hate mail.

[@sevenhundred77_]

+shockslice hahahaha :D

[@theangrychilli5496]

So true though

[@Slay1337pl]

First scene Foreground: Corsair H100i, Intel Pentium Background: A completed AMD rig.

[@raven4k998]

everyone can see your underpants

[@TheoHiggins]

Then: 100 subs Now, a year later(almost): 63k

[@Polygraph2131]

4 years later: 147k

[@raven4k998]

now 172k views so is the Pentium cool again?

[@DaltonJWood]

Let's make the pentium great again!

[@Jimu69]

Yes!

[@КристопервлалимирАлехандерАрмс]

pentriump for president!

[@pataduzit1200]

Pentium Trump ``MAKE PENTIUM GREAT AGAIN``

[@TuanNguyen-lx7sk]

We need to build a wall to get those AMD CPU away!

[@КристопервлалимирАлехандерАрмс]

Alex Nguyen Amd is not sending their good products on this country they send athlons, bad graphic cards, palominos, 6600's and some, I asume they are 8350's chips

[@Saeng0]

March 2015 : 100 subs 1 year and a month later : 70k. damn

[@KevinCandrix]

Hi GHG, Is 4.5 ghz achievable on a Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo you think?

[@GreenHamGaming]

Kevin Candrix If you can keep the voltage low, yeah totally. I have the crappier version in my gateway (the 414) and it keeps my boiling hot Athlon X2, very very cool

[@KevinCandrix]

Green Ham Gaming Thank you very much for the quick answer! I will order these 2 for my new build :D

[@aceofspades9845]

Green Ham Gaming i have a g3268 stable oc at 4.2 ghz on stock cooler, tried 4.5 but it was overheating so i settles for 4.2

[@halo56822]

+Kevin Candrix yes, I oc'd my friends g3258 to 4.5 on the stock cooler. Doesnt overheat.

[@botbeamer]

+Chuy Castro i did 5 ghz and cooling the cpu with me blowing on it. you guys are lagging behind my expertise :)

[@JoshuaNicoll]

Well, with the Pentium G4400 the series has continued but being locked it simply isn't as good as a result, clearly this was a one off, confirmed by the fact It was only unlocked because it was the 20th anniversary. The Pentium won't be cool again until the next unlocked anniversary chip, probably 25.

[@mcl_official20XX]

You can still overclock the Pentium g4400 along with pretty much all "non-k" cpus if your motherboard has older drivers installed, a KZbin channel called Science Studio made a few videos regarding the subject.

[@JoshuaNicoll]

Yes, I follow that channel too, I even gave him two Matched Xeons. I cannot advise baseclock overclocking because you can damage components over the long term, whether that actually matters as if the parts will still be in use if something does break. you also don't get as stable an overclock, or as much of one.

[@dunxy]

It all depends on chipset, some boards separate stuff like PCIE clock when increasing BCLK, these you have no real danger on overclocking, others not so SAFE. Ive got an x79 running 125BCLK (because non K i7), as it has done for years. For sure its not as simple as upping a multi and throwing some vcore at it,some of us grew up overclocking before unlocked chips where a thing!

[@JoshuaNicoll]

No, on intel, SATA, RAM PCIe, networking and everything is derived from the baseclock, overclock that and everything gets overclocked. the X79 PCH is LGA 2011, only K series Sandy Bridge-E and Ivy Bridge-E where released on the LGA 2011 socket, so unless you have the one exception (well two I know of) or a xeon you can overclock. LGA 2011 CPUs are now pretty cheap, if you happen to have said i7-3820, it wouldn't cost too much to upgrade. While some of these things don't like being overclocked, it doesn't kill them, might just act funny. AMD overclocking is a slight pain, Core 2 overclocking is as much of a pain, lets not remember back to Pentium and Athlon days and before, we all have nightmares of those times, those are dark times, we shan't not speak of them.

[@dunxy]

Joshua Nicoll There are straps to adjust to keep ram at desired clock, pcie is seperated, at least on my board.It does not OC with BCLK of 125.At least, this is my understanding and the way my system runs, shows this.I assure you there is nothing happening with PCIE clock, or it would make my gpu unstable as its OC'd absolute MAX.Sure ram would run out of spec, if left at auto, just adjust straps to drop it within spec. Im not alone in this understanding, there are just as many who do the same , no problem, as there are those who claim BCLK is evil and will kill your board.Im sure there are boards where you cant adjust straps for anything, and the scenario you describe is true, but i do not belive it is the case with mine.If you are certain, tell me how can be proven if i am actually increasing PCIE frequency? My board is a gax79-up4 and you are correct, i have a 3820.Its @ 4.75 with 125BC, multiplier is not maxxed as to do so, i have to throw stupid vcore to get it up even 1.I have had it stable at 4.95, but temps were scary! I still stuff around overclocking old c2d and c2q for the lulz, got about a dozen in my collection.

[@Noobioh]

The G3258 was a beast of a CPU for the price. i rocked it for less than a year as it didnt really fullfill my needs (which includes 1080p60fps rendering, 3D rendering and gaming). So I upgraded to a 4460 last week. :)

[@amessman]

100x and 1.5y later... 100,000!!!

[@0mnis14sh]

I went from a P4 to a pentium e5300 OC'd to 3.8ghz for $75 australian. Once I got a HD4830 in there and OC'd that, it seemed go a fair bit better than my mates stock q6600/8800gt

[@parkerdrive654]

can you make a caption for the name of a song everytime you play one in your videos, i like a lot of them, cant find them

[@GreenHamGaming]

RabidCentral I always try to get all the song names in the Credits. In this video they can be found at 9:08. Hope that helps. :D

[@parkerdrive654]

oh ok thx

[@sinzofarock]

i freaking love the ways you do your videos! keep it up!

[@sjplaysall1020]

Happy 100!- Yes the Pentium is cool once more. I think in itself its impressive that the Pentium OC can keep up with that GPU. Love the shout-out and can't wait till the next 100- or 1000! :D -SJ

[@GreenHamGaming]

Oh yes, as I said- I didn't expect it to beat the i3 but it thrashed it! Thanks again, More Green ham on the way!

[@sjplaysall1020]

Love to see it! -SJ

[@Vexonia_Music]

I'm just happy that the Pentium G3258's spirit of low end overclocking lives on in the Athlon 3000g

[@NinjazGame]

Congrats on 100 subs man

[@Quietbut_Deadly]

Wow, did he say 100 subscribers at 0:09? His channel grew SO much in 2015. It was a great fucking year

[@eatsleepdie8808]

"Let's make 2015 a great f*cking year!" Oh damn this is older than I remember 0.0

[@PurpleVapourFx]

Congratulations on hitting 4000 subs, mate! You are, by far, my FAVOURITE KZbinr of all time, and I think, although 4000 subs is a big milestone, that you deserve much, much more than that. Keep up the good work!

[@certs743]

90 degrees? So basically you turned it into a P4 Prescott. lol

[@DaFlamingCrowOfDeath]

After watching some of your videos, I am honestly amazed at your production quality. It's unfortunate to say you are not well known. Keep it up, Im enjoying watching your videos more than I do with other youtubers.

[@GreenHamGaming]

Production quality is everything, without it I am just another KZbinr. Thanks haha!

[@EvilWiffles]

Increasing voltage is what increases the heat output, not the multiplier.

[@pesho9971]

+EvilWiffles They both increase the heat output .Overvolting increses the heat output more than overclocking .

[@jamesgarrett3000]

the fact that he plays the fratellis at the end was so amazing to me. i love and miss this guy.

[@trashboat2165]

them harry potter goggles though

[@cody113400]

dude i love this channel. I love the choices of music. i see this channel going somewhere

[@arabonarocketcamel8352]

GHG since when are you a big AMD fan? You only play around with Dell's with intels.

[@HyperfixationWizard]

Graphics card wise he is.

[@arabonarocketcamel8352]

Volerm Makes sense now, but for the budgets GHG has how could he buy nividia.

[@AntiqueMeme]

+TheTexasRangerNamedDeath what??

[@arabonarocketcamel8352]

***** In green ham gamings videos he often has a low budget, nVidia cards are poor performers at low budgets.

[@AntiqueMeme]

TheTexasRangerNamedDeath Um. The 950 is great and can be had for less than $140 USD

[@EzpadaZS]

I've been a subscriber of your channel for 3 days. And i say, thank you, for your videos, you are your way to the fucking top of tech channels. Keep it up man. (In hopes you still read comments, since you have 35k subscribers now). Greetings from Mexico.

[@rapper250]

Game developers are giving Dual cores the shaft. ubisoft and R* for example.

[@eraldorh]

+rapper250 You can still get them to work quite easily.

[@redey1290]

GTA V is actually working fine on the G3258 now. On Windows 10 you can get a stable 30fps with a GTX 750ti.

[@ryancockers3153]

+Redey1290 That's odd. I expected it to do more than that in gta v, honestly. But maybe I'm just an fps-jew...

[@jarodmartinez213]

+Ryan Cockers hes talking about ultra settinga

[@BitPlayYT]

+Redey1290 And 60fps

[@Evan2]

I've got the G3258 (OC'd to 4GHz) paired with a GeForce 750 Ti SC, 8GB DDR3 and 2 SSDs in RAID. Absolutley incredible budget build that will play many up-to-date games at full settings 1080p.

[@chuzzymcfuzzy3287]

+WinXPwhiz Which RAID? Also, nice setup. All I can recommend is a newer CPU/GPU combo. Incredibly good value. How much, and what currency?

[@ChrisD__]

100 to 8,000 in 5 months! That's insane! Congratulations

[@MagikarpGGod]

Now he has gained 4 thousand more subs since your comment.

[@ChrisD__]

O.o My brothers gotten 10 in that time!

[@chriss5828]

Annnnd now it's almost hit 17,000, I'll be proud the day you hit 100K or 1M so I can say "I was here since 15K" ;D

[@ChrisD__]

OO TheUnderatedPokemonFan Oo Been here since 100, XD

[@CONTROLTHEYOUTH]

He's already at 24k. gg

[@nate-otero]

Such nostalgia rewatching old ghg videos

[@jrlaflash]

What GPU were you using? I feel like you said it but I missed it.

[@GreenHamGaming]

starterpivot Just an R9 270X. Hey no problem! in future if you are curious about specs, I usually put them in a list in the credits entitled "TECH SPECS FOR GEEKS". Cheers, GHG

[@jrlaflash]

Green Ham Gaming Alright cool man, thanks, I subbed.

[@BabylonianLifting]

Green Ham Gaming yeh i dont think paring the r9 270x with the i3 or pentuim is that good since amd cards are kinda wack with 2 cores if u go with a fx 6300 or higher is better

[@so_cold7776]

2:50 40 degrees at idle?! my processor runs at 20 degrees idle.... with a stock cooler

[@geoiswho]

its 40 degrees at full load

[@Marco-cl9pb]

half the price but with a H100i LOL

[@christopherwalker8203]

I just want you to know, your videos are the best! Makes me feel like I'm reliving the 90's again. A time in my life where I got to experience all the new consoles and what not that came out as I progressed in my life as a teen. I thank you sir, and would make you a cup of tea if you didnt live so far away. Keep making these awesome videos my friend, and I will keep watching!

[@UnDeaDAmP]

MOAR HAM

[@Kris451]

Hey Tim, Intel has released the Pentium G4400, skylake, a few weeks ago. And in the worse possible move they can pull on a chip like that, they got rid of overclocking.

[@Venylynn]

#MakePentiumGreatAgain

[@credocooperative]

deathbat6916 #CoreSeriesForDiscontinuation

[@steffenstengardvilladsen3740]

Any comments regarding power consumption? I recall that as being the main reason why P4 lost back then.

[@memememegaming]

I had a very hot A10 chip a while ago. I ran it at 4.1GHz on bad cooling with no issues.

[@jackmcdonald8355]

or, you could, you know, just get an AMD FX-6300

[@leeliville9678]

still 40 bucks more on amazon

[@Mrx2002]

I hit my bong every time you said Pentium.... Gonna watch this again! lol

[@conformconsumeobey2985]

God damnit why does every 5 years society gets worse and worse? I wanted 2005 back in 2015, and now I fucking want 2015 back. Please Earth, can the human race just go extinct?

[@dampryan10]

you've got just about 100,000 more subs then you had last year... amazing!!

[@tehnoob19]

Isn't it better for the radiator fans to push the hot air directly out of the case? Unless your case does not have fan slots on the surface, i might've missed that.

[@anthrospartan7269]

CPU you used before: G3258 @ 3.2GHz MOBO you used before: MSi H81M-E33 CPU OC you got on previous MOBO: 4.2GHz (40 - 50C idle - 58 - 60C while rendering/gaming) Cooler you used: Xilence i402 CPU you have right now: I3-4170 @ 3.7GHz MOBO you have now: Gigabyte H81M-S2H Cooler you use now: CM Hyper 212 EVO

[@ChannelBenaPro]

Which grapics card are you use in the video?Sry for bad english

[@lapinus]

I actually grabbed a cup of tea lol. Btw, you gave me inspiration for my videos. Thank you! 5:59 Because csgo is cpu intensive, so even the slightest upgrade from an i3 to an i5 it can give hundreds of frames more

[@Boemel]

How high could a Pentium D go ? mine even has trouble opening google.

[@sjplaysall1020]

Haha random comment or question. Do you play Oldschool runescape or do you play RS3? It was something I was thinking about for a while after "dell to man" Video -SJ

[@GreenHamGaming]

I usually play OSRS when I play. Haven't had the time to play at all though recently with college and GHG. I still have a lot of nostalgia for the game as I played it heavily from ages 6-12. :D

[@favioescalon528]

Man I remember watching this around the time it came out. Time really flies by man lol

[@oldcracker3383]

a year or two ago i built my first pc, now I'm at like my 30th build and testing how much I can overclock low end i5 processors vs. stock i7s.

[@willanalikuri3290]

Great video, but you should test newer games optimized for four cores.... Such as Gta V... And see if the higher clock can compensate the "missing cores" (compared to i3 or i5)...

[@iminibrief]

I love the twist you put on the monotonous PC related videos on KZbin! I too am a proud owner of a Pentium g3258, well until I bought a r9 290x which seems to be a little too much for the Pentium to handle. it worked excellent with my older gtx 570 though so something to keep in mind is what hardware you have the Pentium paired with. keep up the amazing videos!

[@Arthur-ej5gi]

100,000 Subs well done M8 PC FOR THA WIN!!!!

[@herb3629]

little did he know the pentium g4560 was just around the corner

[@maximumelectronic6261]

not been a year since this vid. you have gained over 50k subs. well done.

[@FabbeBjuder]

I like that your wallpaper changes colour every second, I did the same and made a bunch of wallpapers with different colours but in Win10 I can only choose every 30 seconds..... do you know some way I can make it change every second?

[@Alex-oz9eh]

could you post links to all the benchmarking and monitoring software you use in this video please?

[@deadmeat1240]

I seem to recall that there are a few recent games that will not even load without at least 4 cores - Virtual or actual. So anyone considering going Intel on the cheap the 4130 is really awesome. It can be had for about $100 (US) on special. I used to be AMD guy for over 10 years, but took the plunge on the 4130 and have been amazed at it's gaming power.

[@m333x]

Wow, you went from 100 subs in march to 62k in less than a year. I remember i subscribed to you when you had 4000 subs

[@randomaccessbrains]

This video got me wondering: what are the specs of your main pc?

[@kaekaeslider7043]

wow ive been subscribed since 30,000 good job man! :D

[@nameistunbekannt7896]

Clearly arranged data, good presentation. Well done!

[@Apeman607]

is this chip still worth getting? i'm planning to do a mini tx build and to overclock the fuck out of it.

[@funnypranker34]

Harry George chapman yes

[@uHnodnarB]

Did he say 100 subscribers? Wow you've blew up! Good job!

[@thanatorz]

What were the temperatures of the overclocked Pentium under full load? Just wondering.

[@100mrbigman]

i love your channel its so retro!

[@col5491]

I thought i was the only one who liked amd for both cpu and gpu products. Now im not lonely...

[@timpedra]

I decided to "revive" my first PC ever (from January 2004) to play some old games on steam. Cleaned everything, applied new thermal paste on the CPU and GPU. The specs are: Pentium 4 1.8GHz, GeForce FX 5200 128MB, 1GB DDR400, 80GB HD and Windows XP SP3 installed. I got no problems at all running games like GTA Vice City and NFS Underground outside steam, but when I start any game on steam (even Duke Nukem 3D) the computer reboots or gives the BSoD immediately. It's probably because of the GPU's driver, but since it's too old, there are no updates. Is it possible to "fix" this problem? I'm asking this here because I always see on the comments people talking about older computers, especially from the early 2000's.

[@uHnodnarB]

Also what case is this? That is definitely the most unique I/O layout I have seen.

[@THRILLSON2183]

how did you get far cry to run on a dual core? i thought it only worked with quad cores

[@wajalama]

Hi GHG, I noticed you had the Gigabyte BIOS when overclocking the G3258, what were the OC settings you used to achieve 4.7ghz? Currently I'm at 4.3ghz (which is a big increase over the default 3.2ghz), but I wanted to see if I could push it even more for my mini ITX build.

[@orioncox2098]

Who rocked the glasses better? GHG or Harry Potter? lol besides that, I'm a big fan and love your content. Keep up the good work!

[@ph1l911]

Overclocking is quite cool, but if you're on a budget and want to buy a relativ cheap cpu (like this pentium) an aftermarket cooler pushes the cost up quite a bit. I mean doesn't this corsair water-cooling solution itself cost more than the cpu and around the same as an i3?

[@somewhitekidtv1002]

man you've really blown up, mate. Congrats!

[@j.lietka9406]

GH, hello.. have you ever rebuilt a Dell Vostro MT 230, say, new m/b, PSU, Video card? Thanks

[@cohenponsford8926]

Your tastes in Music are awesome.

[@jturner718]

90 Celsius isn't safe by any means? What about Prescott P4s or Turion 64 X2 Ultras? The latter one in my experience hits 90C every time you do anything remotely stressful. And yes, that is the CPU this laptop came with, and I do regular maintenance on my cooling system. Just replaced it here recently, in fact.

[@jokkmokk12345]

+Jacob Turner Those CPU's are awful with heat though, i had a HP with a turion 64 X2 that i had to heavily underclock just to keep it usable because of the heat it generated. Most CPU's normally underclock themselves when they reach a certain temperature just to make sure the CPU doesn't kill itself, this is normally around 70 - 80C if i remember correctly. I think the top temperature you want on a CPU under load is around 60C, at least that's what i keep my CPU's at.

[@matthewrobinsonsz]

You're 980th sub :) Keep up the good work

[@PragmaticTornado]

Bought one of these for my home server. It runs very cool and quiet even with the stock fan, and the performance is acceptable. Might have to upgrade to an i7 later for better multitasking, but for simple server tasks it works well. Seems like it's decent for gaming too from what I've seen on benchmarks.

[@diegojimenez4043]

what is load temp? when the CPU is being stressed and pushed right? not just sitting at idle?

[@LBZDreamer]

What motherboard did you use to overclocked this and have you ever experienced any issues overclocking as Beyond 4.6 and 4.7 ghz while starting the computer up

[@erzajumeidi]

9:39 When I was a kid, Pentium and Intel Inside thing is really the coolest thing ever in here, ah the memory...

[@isthisnickvalid]

I´m sure someone has said this already but learn the difference between it´s and its :D Love your videos btw!

[@megapro125]

comparing the stock i3 with the pentium with the premise that the i3 costs twice as much is kinda unfair since the price of the pentium + the h100i is easily higher than the i3 with it's boxed cooler. Nice overclocking results though ;)

[@laneharder9993]

I love how he uses "we" for his videos despite it being just him by himself in the videos themselves. It makes me feel more involved

[@SparkysAdventure]

Can you try delidding? That may help you with further overclocking.

[@structor125]

Have you ever used a Pentium E5200? I hear they are great for overclocking too.

[@theherblin]

Curious, I didn't spot it maybe? Any idea what GPU this was pared with ?

[@lucky73ven1]

wait, buying a Pentium and cooler how much does it cost already compare to buying an i3 or i5?

[@MordecaiTheAwesomeBluejay]

I build my very first "gaming" PC in Christmas. It was a cheap one too. I chose the G3258 because it was cheap. My GPU is a Nvidia GTX 650ti Boost. And 8gb Dual RAM. I play games with stock speeds because I don't have a cooler. I tested out BF4 at low and it was running 75 fps while it drops to 31 fps. The CPU is not that bad even at stock speeds

[@finlaymartins272]

you've got a great style of editing