IS THE SPRINGFIELD GARRISON TRASH OR DO I JUST HAVE THE WORST LUCK?

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[@user-ov6yd9mz8e]

I bought the salt blue Garrison 45acp. Love this gun.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

That's awesome! I think they are good I just had the worst luck!

[@DavidV4444]

I hope you get it sorted - nothing shoots like a 1911 and they make up 99% of my personal collection!

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Supposed to have it back this week. I just love the 1911. Nothing looks or shoots like a 1911 in my opinion. Really appreciate the comment sir. Hope to hear from you again.

[@alexg3591]

I've just purchased the Springfield 1911 Loaded in 9mm. Took it to the range today. The first magazine ran fine, but then I had two jams per magazine, and they were loaded to only half capacity. I've heard bad things about SA customer service, so I;m taking it to a good gunsmith this Mon. What happened after you got it back from the gunsmith? Do you shoot it much after that? I know that thse are on the lower end of 1911s, but there is no excuse for such lazy work. If Glock can make a great gun out of a piece of plastic, SA can certainly put some god damned effort into their flagship model. I was told they have a break-in period and that I need to use better ammo, but I'm not entirely buying that story.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I, to this day, still am frustrated by this experience. I don't like to say never but I can't see me ever buying a Springfield again. The gunsmith did fix it. He said it was bad quality control. He also said the last 3 years he's seeing problems out of the box quite a bit with a lot of brands. To me it's inexcusable. I sold it as soon as I got it back from the gunsmith. I can't keep something that is unreliable. I appreciate the comment and feel your frustration.

[@alexg3591]

@@DadsGarageDIY Thanks for the reply! I will keep mine and persevere with it. I will just add the gunsmith cost to the cost of doing business with Springfield.

[@chocolat4hogs]

I have the blued .45 ACP Garrison, love it, shoots great, feels good in hand for my liking. I put Wilson Combats grips on mine. Now it feels right for me. Good luck setting your pistol up to your liking.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Thanks. I got it back from the gunsmith Friday. He said he didn’t think it would happen again. I’m going to put at least 200 rounds through it on Sunday. We will see. I love the way it feels too. Crossing my fingers.

[@ritesideofthefence5857]

Just a heads up, my Garrison had a slide stop figment issue and actually something similar to yours took it apart hit with a file followed by a quick stoning and it’s been 100% reliable with many different ammo types ever since

[@DadsGarageDIY]

That is great to hear! I took it to the gunsmith and he got it working good but after 2 in a row I had such a bad taste in my mouth that I immediately traded it. Thanks so much. Love the conversation!

[@stephenjoy5021]

Got the garrison in stainless/.45.Added the Wilson combat g10 grip and bulletproof magwell.Then the Dawson precision fiber optic sights…Love it!!!

[@DadsGarageDIY]

It is a fine shooting gun for sure!

[@dianedo8314]

Wishing the best for you.… Hope it works out good seeing everyone! Best of luck to your son in the Navy, you must be so proud! I appreciate his service and dedication for sure!

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Thanks Diane. He's been at boot camp for 2 weeks today. Only 7 to go.

[@FrontSeatDriver]

I have a gun. It shoots bullets. I am quite the encyclopedia on guns. 😆 Thank goodness I had your assistance at the gun range last time.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

LOL. Unfortunately this gun there was no hope for. After 10 days with the gunsmith it will be all better.

[@22Phanatic]

I believe what you had was Galling of the frame and slide, maybe the fit was too tight and stainless steel tends to have galling issues when it gets hot ?! I own the Blued version and only issue I had was the extractor would not eject occasionally, I properly tensioned it and no more issues . I had Harrison Design put a set of his sights on it and I’m very happy with it so far.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

It's back from the gunsmith and I will get it another shot (pun intended) on Sunday afternoon. Crossing my fingers. I only give a one 1 mulligan. After that it goes on the trading block.

[@mikecude4167]

I had this exact issue with my Springfield Garrison. Not a good sign. I sent it back to SA, it’s scheduled to deliver back to me on Monday. Do you have any updates? I posted a video about it too.

[@lewiscase546]

I’ve had several Springfield 1911s, and have never encountered any of these problems. My Garrison functions perfectly, and has become my primary carry gun. I can only think that you have unbelievably bad luck.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I think so too. The 9mm started running pretty nice after 600 rounds. But, by then I was too frustrated with it. Also, felt weird. I think it was the lack of power coming from a big 1911. The 45 after a complete lockup I moved it along after the gunsmith fixed it. I was out of patience. I did pick up a Rock Island Elite 1911 in 10mm. Runs flawlessly. Doesn't shoot as nice as the Springfield. But, it does run every time. Good hearing from you. Hope you will subscribe if you haven't already and I look forward to future comments on other videos. Thank you sir.

[@ritesideofthefence5857]

Great video, maybe should have worked out the 9mm issues both my colt comp pistol and my Rock Island 9mm full size are fantastic range guns and I too purchased the Garrison in .45acp. It’s had lots of work done is absolutely a perfect performing pistol with just what I need and nothing else.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Thank you so much. Glad to hear about your Rock Island. I traded this off for a RI 10mm. Oh my gosh do I love it. It is spot on and has never had one single issue. My buddy just picked up a smaller RI in 9mm. I love the Rock Island products. Great hearing from you. Look forward to the next conversation.

[@MiJaHa]

With the case stuck like that, that's how You send it back to Springfield with "suggestions" about what to do with it.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Again 😂. I need more comments from you. You’re cracking me up!!! Thanks. I appreciate it.

[@josemeza3129]

Sr I have a garrison 9mm 2 months ago and I have shooting with it ove 500 rounds now and it works perfectly I also bought a Wilson Combat magazines and it feeds very good I love my 1911 9mm garrison thanks

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Hi Jose. So glad to hear. I loved the way it shoot too. Glad you are having good luck with it. I just had bad luck. Thanks for the comment sir. Hope to hear from you soon on some other videos. Thanks Jose.

[@giosiny]

I have the same one, put about 200 rounds through it no feed or extraction issues on mine. Gun shoots amazing, very happy with it. Edit: sorry didn’t realize yours was the 45 version mine is chambered in 9mm.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I will be happy with it when it gets back from the gunsmith next week. It shot so beautifully the 1st 8 rounds. Then total lockdown. I appreciate the comment EsEs.

[@fredowen64]

I have the stainless 45 also and love it.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Good to hear! Thanks Fred.

[@darkgardener9577]

Is it a perfect 4k nighthawk?? No..... but for 900 bucks and a few Wilson Combat mags? It ran like a dream.

[@DadsCars]

I loved the way both of mine shot when they would shoot. Glad you are loving yours. Good to hear from you sir. Hope if you are not subscribed you will. Thanks so much!

[@darkgardener9577]

@@DadsCars Subbed.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@darkgardener9577 Thank you sir.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@darkgardener9577 Thank you so much sir.

[@ClayWilliams-wp1kk]

They ingrave the last 4 numbers of the ser number on the slide i had to grind them down with a dremel tool because the slide would get stuck on the frame! I have two springfields they both were like that you need to look at that!

[@DadsGarageDIY]

This is ridiculous some of these simple quality control issues they are having.

[@tomnelson3362]

Dad, did you get that Garrison figured out yet?

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Unfortunately my patience with the Garrison was very short. After 2 in a row that had issues right out of the box. I dumped them both and moved on to a Rock Island Elite 1911 in 10mm. Only went out with it once but perfect so far. Great hearing from you again Tom!

[@tomnelson3362]

My first 1911 was a RIA FS ULTRA. I still shoot it. It never gave me any trouble and shot what ever I fed it. I was a little embarrassed that it was not a fabled name but it was/is a great dependable shooter. Thanks again for a very believable review.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@tomnelson3362 I am looking forward to getting it back out on Sunday. There are some good lesser known brands out there. I am hearing a LOT of good things about Tisas. I haven't had one but I have shot one. Always good hearing from you Tom. Looking forward to the next conversation!

[@tomnelson3362]

Please do a video on the Tisas @@DadsGarageDIY

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@tomnelson3362 My buddy has one. Let me see if we can get that together.

[@gilbertferguson1685]

Good information. Would like to know what you found out. Recently purchased this gun and in the first 50 rounds I had a couple failures to chamber, did not lock up. I will try different ammo and maybe magazine. Thanks

[@DadsGarageDIY]

The gunsmith said it was a quality control issue. He was a tiny bit surprised with a Springfield. But, he said over the past 3 years he’s seeing a ton of new guns with issues right out of the box. He said not many brands have been exempt from this. I loved the gun, when it worked. I just can’t live with a gun that is unreliable. And I have a very short fuse with this kind of stuff. Once I get a bad taste in my mouth with a gun it has to go.

[@gilbertferguson1685]

@@DadsGarageDIY understand. You don’t need a gun you can’t rely on. Thanks for the response.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@gilbertferguson1685 You’re very welcome, sir. If you’re not subscribed, I would really appreciate it if you would. I look forward to the next conversation.

[@gilbertferguson1685]

@@DadsGarageDIYsubscribed. Thanks.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@gilbertferguson1685Thanks so much. Really appreciate it.

[@PMPerformance]

I’ve always wanted a 1911, but always heard they can be finicky unless you go balls deep and spend a healthy amount of money. Have you tried different ammo? Sorry to see you are dealing with this. Curious what Springfield has to say

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I love 1911's. They are typically so accurate and reliable. Unfortunately this was not an ammo issue. I already have it at the gunsmith. He said it was a manufacturing issue. He is going to fix it. He said it would be a permanent fix and I shouldn't expect this to reoccur. Springfield only said send it to us and we will have it back to you in a month.

[@PMPerformance]

@@DadsGarageDIY I got to that part later in the video. Glad to hear it’s nothing major, sucks to have to deal with it though regardless.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@PMPerformance No question. It's a $75 fix but there should be no fix on a brand new gun. The gunsmith said he is seeing this all the time even with quality guns like the Springfield. He said the manufacturers are pumping them out so quickly to deal with the demand that quality control is really struggling with many brands.

[@PMPerformance]

@@DadsGarageDIY would be nice if Springfield comped you for that work. My friend had a DE 50 that stovepiped every single round. Talk about a kick in the dick for an expensive gun to not run!

[@MiJaHa]

Easy fix. Just don't buy POS Springfields.

[@anthonyharris1846]

Oof there was something very wrong for that pistol to jam like it did. What kind of ammo were you shooting? I've got a Garrison that I've put 1,000+ rounds through and it has yet to have a single issue. All I do is clean an oil the gun after the range. I have seen online some insane terrible quality guns online. As if a fa tory machine broke or the owners tried to customize them or take them apart for the first time an messes up, and then sells them. I feel like I could never trust a tool that I'd be using to protect myself & my family if I bought it used...

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I feel the same way. I have only bought 1 used. I always buy new. I tried all kinds of ammo. The better quality seemed to have less failures. Just bad luck to have 2 in a row with issues. The gunsmith said he is constantly getting new guns in with issues over the past few years. He said it is just quality control issues because everyone is just trying to push them out to quickly. Good hearing from you Anthony. Hope to see more comments on other videos. Thanks so much.

[@TSargeant]

That’s the same issue I’ve had with two out of three!!!

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Oh my. 2 of 2 for me. I moved on to the Rock Island Ultra in 10mm. It has been flawless!

[@MJ-om8nw]

Its agood gun. I have one. No issues. Id suggest taking to a gunsmith. Or if you feel like being a do it yourself gunsmith by watching utube videos..go for it. I too have done a little messing around with my junk kimber that i never should have bought. Now it funs flawlessly, so im glad i was able to fix it myself.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Yeah, I took it to my gunsmith. He fixed it then I immediately traded it. Once I get a bad taste in my mouth about a gun I'm done and move on. Really appreciate it!

[@007Chancellor]

SOOOOO disappointed. I shoot higher end 1911s (Ed Brown, Wilson Combat, and a Colt that has had major customization on it). They are truly flawless pistols. I've been thinking about a beater gun, and was seriously considering a Springfield cause they look really good. After your two experiences, they are off my list. So thanks for taking one (TWO!) for the team. 😉 I'm really thinking a Tisas might be the way to go. Looks really are important...and accuracy is a key element of any pistol for me. But 100% RELIABILITY is paramount. Nothing else matters to me if a gun doesn't go bang every time you pull the trigger. Out of curiosity, can you be more specific on what problems your 'smith uncovered and fixed? And please try a Tisas next! 🤣

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Glad I could save you some cash. LOL. I will have an Ed Brown or Wilson Combat one day. It's on my bucket list. I have shot a few Tisas and haven't had any issues and shoots decent. I agree with you 100%. If not 100% reliable I won't own it. Accuracy is also a must. He told me on both of them quality control were the issues. He was able to fix them but once I have issues like this the bad taste is still in my mouth and they just have to go. I have another one for you to put on your list. I have a Rock Island in 10mm and it's the best 1911 I've ever had. I'm not in fantasy land and making any comparisons to EB or WC. But, for a sub $1000 gun it is fantastic. I've had it about a year now and it's gone through many rounds. Never did it not go bang and It is SPOT ON with every shot. Great conversation! I look forward to the next!

[@007Chancellor]

@@DadsGarageDIY The Ed Brown Kobra Carry is, to my mind, the BEST .45 EDC 1911 on the market. You'd love, LOVE it. I've seen good Rock Islands...and some iffy ones. But, overall, they seem like good pistols for the money. The Tisas's , however, may just be GREAT for the money. I enjoy your vids, sir. 👍

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@007Chancellor Thank you! I appreciate you! I look forward to the next conversation. Still working on that bucket list gun. You will know when I get it.

[@kentac1911]

Whats the update?

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

Its prob just bad luck ...ALL companies make a lemon or 2 ...

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Yeah. I agree! Thanks for the comment.

[@scotm3599]

So, what exactly did the gunsmith have to work on or correct to fix the issue?

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Not real sure all he did. But, the receiver needed work. It was gritty before and after repairs. He said it was just bad quality control and they should have done more work on the slide and rail to make it work more smoothly. He said they are good guns but it’s getting very common to have issues with most brands right out of the box. He said the last few years it has gotten that way. It shoots so good when working right.

[@scotm3599]

@@DadsGarageDIY I was about to do an online purchase on a SA Garrison. I went to Bass pro shop to pickup a spare ammo box and walked out with a Kimber 1911 Custom LW. I have not had a chance to fire it yet, but the barrel bushing is incredibly tight on it whenever I field stripped it. Take care sir and hopefully you will have no more issues with your Springfield

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@scotm3599 Very nice Scot. Can’t wait to hear how you like it. I have only had 2 Kimbers but they were both great! I dumped the Garrison. I started having issues again. I just picked up a Rock Island 1911 in 10mm. Shot it last Sunday. No issues! Great hearing from you again my friend.

[@tomnelson3362]

Is this the second Garrison you've had problems with? I think you posted a video 3 months ago that you were having problems with a Garrison. Maybe you could review the Colt Competition 9mm for us? It might be time for a change. Enjoy your videos very much. They seem to be real life testing. It's almost impossible to find a bad gun review on you tube. You might think there are just no bad guns. Keep'um coming.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Thanks so much Tom. Yeah, this is the 2nd. The 1st was a 9mm then this 45. Both Garrison's. I really thought the 9mm was just a fluke. UGH! Thanks for the kind words. I really don't get into all the little specs and stuff. I try to stay with what the average person/user would experience. I have since gotten a Glock G20 that I did a video on and a Rock Island 10mm 1911. I didn't do a video on the Rock Island. But, it's quite good. Again, I really appreciate the kind words Tom. I will keep bringing the content. Thank you sir.

[@tomnelson3362]

@@DadsGarageDIY Dad, I have a RIA 1911 5" 9mm. and it might be the best, most reliable 1911 I own.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@tomnelson3362 I am hoping. Mine is in 10mm. Crossing my fingers. But, out of the box no issues. That’s a shock with the luck I have had lately. Lol

[@caloyocoy]

Springfield guns are not bad ,they’re not good just an average quality

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I have just been very unlucky. I won’t buy another Springfield for sure. I have had 3 and 2 had mechanical issues. The other I just hated it. Finally learned my lesson. Thanks for the comment. I look forward to the next conversation.

[@MERAJKHAN-pd1nw]

I have a garrison 45 no problems no feed issues nothing have 2 000 rounds

[@DadsGarageDIY]

That's awesome. I just got 2 Garrison duds in a row. Just bad luck. Loved mine when they worked. Good hearing from you!

[@nonyabiz9487]

Stainless steal 1911s do have the rare occasion of experiencing galling between the slide and frame rails. When that happens its game over! It happens with tightly fitted stainless 1911s. Rugers and some of the other not so tightly fitted lower quality stainless 1911s dont need any special grease on the slide however some Colts, Kimbers, Springfield Armory, and ESPECIALLY DAN WESSONS need to have there slides greased with special gun grease. I said grease not oil however Ive had good luck with FP-10 oil on tight guns. Dont say I didnt warn you!

[@DadsGarageDIY]

That’s some fantastic information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. This is crazy that I had so many issues with the Springfields. Two different issues. But, never the less. The 9mm shot really nice when it didn’t have jamming issues. The 45 never really got started. Full lockup and off to the gunsmith. I think both probably would have gotten worked out. But, once you get a bad taste in your mouth I’m done and the thing is going to be gone. I went over to the Rock island in 10mm. Its fit and finish is just fantastic. Not to mention it’s been to the range probably 10 times now and it has been flawless. Not a single hiccup. Thanks again and I look forward to reading future comments and having conversations.

[@007Chancellor]

With all due respect, this is nonsense. I've been shooting 1911s for 50 years. A well made, well fitted 1911 requires noting more than normal cleaning and oiling - and ut wil be among the most accurate and reliable pistols in the world.

[@nonyabiz9487]

@@007Chancellor Some of the above mentioned stainless 1911s are made with much tighter tolerances that you cant see with the naked eye and need more attention however i have a brand new Colt stainless 1911 that needs nothing but a little oil. Its a case by case bases.

[@007Chancellor]

@@nonyabiz9487 Both my Wilson Combat and my Ed Brown are stainless. And flawless.

[@nonyabiz9487]

@@007Chancellor ok and than?

[@billj5645]

An all metal gun will seem unusual with a minimum powered cartridge such as 9mm. A plastic gun better matches the recoil impulse of the small cartridge. It is inexcusable for a product that costs that much, even if it is on the low end of the price range, to not function well right out of the box. A 1911 is supposed to be a finely crafted machine, if you have to open up the tolerances to match the looseness of the plastic guns then that defeats the purpose. Your first few jams seemed to be an indication of improper extractor tension which would be easy for you to adjust yourself but you shouldn't have to. FWIW, I've seen some of the pastic guns completely seize up like yours did so it isn't peculiar to a 1911.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Great education Bill. I agree. This is completely inexcusable. Would love to hear from you on some more videos. Your insights are phenomenal.

[@rubengarza1260]

I own the blued one with over 1k in rounds down range hp etc no failures. Maybe you got a lemon.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Yeah, I think you nailed it. Good hearing from you Ruben.

[@TheRealZJE313]

Well it's bad u bought it used. Cause if you had bought it New u could have used the life time warranty.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

True.

[@charlesdesurne4696]

was thinking about buying this as a bday present to myself , think I'll pass. i like guns that work , even if this was one gun out of a thousand, its one jamamatic too much

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I bought 2. 1 in 45 and the other in 9 and both had feed issues out of the box. About 600 rounds in and the 9 started running better. By then I was over it. I’m so frustrated. Don’t know if I will be buying another Springfield.

[@TheRealZJM377]

What feeding issues did the 45 have?​@@DadsGarageDIY

[@justusbryant7366]

This is why i dont buy used guns. See you gonna go pawn it off for somebody else to buy and get a crappy gun

[@DadsGarageDIY]

I don’t buy used either. One reason is I can buy new for pretty much the same price. Kinda like that old saying about used cars “you’re buying someone else’s problems”. Thanks for the comment Justus.

[@TheRealZJE313]

That's right and u don't get that SA life time warranty

[@justusbryant7366]

@@TheRealZJE313 yea lol

[@justusbryant7366]

Yea and what gets me is gunbroker and Gun shops try and charge like 8 or 900 dollars for a used gun I'm like you crazy af. You prolly paid 200 for it if that. I saw somebody come in with a hi point and they offered them 50 for it. I know it's a cheap gun but still that same concept applies to every other gun.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@TheRealZJE313 True!

[@henrychang3153]

Get some help from a Gunsmith

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Did that. Got it working better. Just fed up that 2 Springfield 1911's in a row has major issues. Bought a Rock Island Elite 1911 10mm and it is absolutely flawless. Thanks Henry.

[@bobk.1428]

In all due respect stop spending money on those and get a .45 and a 9mm Glock. They may not be as pretty but they go bang every single time. I have thousands of rounds through my Glock 19 and not one single problem, ever. I recently switched to the 43X and have several hundreds of rounds through it. It hasn’t been cleaned or oiled yet and it’s flawless.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

My trusty Glock is always on my side. I enjoy shooting 1911's in 45. My 43X MOS is my daily. It was my 1st Glock and I have been carrying it since the video came out about 6 months ago. It has been 100% flawless and 100% reliable. It will take some years before I can call it my best gun ever but it is still in the running. Always appreciate it my friend!

[@DadsGarageDIY]

Going to get my G20 Gen 5 tomorrow.Shhhhhh. Don't tell anyone. It will be an upcoming video. LOL

[@billj5645]

I have seen Glocks fail to fire- click and nothing happens. I've also found loaded cartridges laying on the ground at my range with the unmistakable Glock firing pin indent in the primer but the cartridge did not go off. I've also seen plastic guns seize up where the slide completely locked and would not move either way so plastic guns are not immune to this.

[@DadsGarageDIY]

@@billj5645 This is the 1st time I have seen one just seize up. That thing seemed welded. It wouldn’t budge. Good news is the gunsmith said he would have it finished tomorrow.

[@charlesdesurne4696]

owned a glock 20 ,10mm for 25 yrs. mostly sat in the safe because it felt like a brick in my medium sized hands . Springfields xdm elite 10mm fits my hands perfectly. I'm back to the caliber I love for edc .