Is the Technics SL-1200GR Suitable for DJs?

[@Davehiphop]

I am 43 and still have my 1210's that I purchased when I was 16!

[@JMJC1]

Davehiphop same here, and very odd you have the same interests as me judging by your subscriptions! Lol.

[@Davehiphop]

Word up! lol

[@ceounicom]

i got mine 20+ years ago as well. never had a problem of any kind. still in the same hard-cases i put them in many years ago

[@Schoolforthesoul]

I bought a used pair of 1200s in 1996 and used them until 2001 then I bought a pair of 1210s really I just liked the 1210 color better but my 1210s work perfectly and I don't see me needing to replace them anytime soon. I don't think I would buy the new 1200. I really like the feel of the analog pitch control and who knows with the extra electronics in the new ones if they will last as long. Bravo though to Technics for building a product that lasts a lifetime and has brought me decades of joy!

[@alexandersamuel5638]

Thats absolutely awesome!

[@donkinshaun]

GR 2 update? 😎

[@sbennett6596]

I've had a pair of these for 2 years and they're amazing, I couldn't be happier with the purchase. I came from the Mk5g to these, my old decks were not very well cared for before I had them, they were ex hire units that ended up needing new tonearms. I was quoted nearly £500 for each tonearm, parts only, sooo.... The new decks are built like tanks, respect to Panasonic for again producing units intended to last a life time and not just a product cycle. The sound quality is definitely better than previous models, definitely, that was obvious from the first beat! The digital pitch is no issue from me at least coming from the Mk5G, and its really not that different at all from the old analogue pitch. The additional damping on the feet might be an issue if you are scratching etc but mixing house & techno as I do they have never once been an issue, ive never noticed it. One difference I did notice early on is that the platter top is textured instead of the old smooth metal, it makes slip matts a little less slippy, but again, not an issue unless you're really into spin backs. Price wise? Well, yeah, its seems like a lot. Although they're only the same as a CDJ900NXS2 and if you're into vinyl and sound quality is important to you then investment in quality is never a bad choice, you do generally get what you pay for with audio equipment. It did seem like a lot at first when you consider the Mk2 used to sell for £350 brand new, but like Mojaxx said, I see that as ridiculously cheap for the quality of the product. On reflection and having finished paying these off, they are worth the outlay. Im a very happy customer.

[@paulallen4169]

How do you find the pitch

[@stuartbennett4301]

No issues for me. I’ve not owned Technics with an analogue pitch, I’ve played on them a couple of times and not really noticed a difference between that and the digital one on the later models.

[@paulallen4169]

Mine are arriving tomorrow, can't wait

[@manukkee]

Super cool, the GR is the only one worth buying as new for DJ-ing. The MK7 is not the real deal and instead of buying a mint Mk2 for more than1000 $, i would prefer to get the GR instead. People complaining about the price of the GR are not really passionate about vinyl DJ-ing. Being a DJ is not a cheap passion, you need to invest money .... Technics is the only DJ tool that holds value and also increases with time.

[@bom128]

Thanks so much for this. You answered my unfounded concern after watching this ill-informed review. I was not sold on Mojax not recommending it as I am also a House DJ and do not scratch. What is important for me is build quality and better fidelity as I will be using it with a hi-fi system which I think is the real intended use for this model. Also should the feet really be an issue it is an easy replacement. The weight of the GR is more confidence inspiring than the lighter MK7 that Mojax recommended in another video even after knowing that the needle would skip in his loud bass unit tests. I think we need to have a DJ who is also an audiophile do justice to this unit by giving a proper review.

[@Tech_Soul]

unboxed my 1200 GR this week, ironically this video convinced me to get one. I have 2 minty SL1210's in my mixing room, the GR is my audiophile (listening) table - it is better all round than the older decks and that should not really be a surprise

[@MrAndyS]

Bought my 1210s new in year 2000 paid £399 each still got them good as new and feel lucky to have a nice pair

[@C10011]

This all depends on how you learned to beat match and mix, and where you worked as DJ... Large clubs in NYC all had the 1200s placed on very wobbly platforms, suspended on rubber rings ( worked during the early 1990s).. And we old school club DJs only used pitch control to beat match, and never touched the records or the turntable platters at all (unlike this video)... We also used Urei or Bozak mixers, without cross faders, with rotatory faders and hand held, single cup, lollypop headphone... SO I totally disagree that these are not DJ decks... If you are a true, old school trained DJ, the GR actually emulates the wobbly setup we are used to, and actually to lesser degree...

[@joseaavellanet4322]

The 1200 is my favorite turntable, great video.

[@DJTReinOkinawa]

"It's not a DJ turntable. It just happen to be good for DJ'n" You said a mouthful man. Thanks for giving us honest reviews!

[@TLka2.0]

Great deck, definitely the highest quality on the market. MK2-MK6 has been improved but there is small issue with the feet - these are good for queuing but for heavy scratch feet are shaky so for ultimate DJ experience in terms of quality would be worth to change them to isoone feet or just standard MK2-MK6 feet. ( with feet from MK2-MK6 model GR will still offer the best damping factor on the market at this moment because of superior chassis) Original MK2 was aimed for Hi-fi market but deck was so accurate and bullet proof so it was adapted by DJs and yet from one hand they sponsored DMC and from other they never officially advertised 1210 (in 90s) as truly DJ deck. This is only marketing point of view. For example Ortofon is reporting a drop in sales among DJ carts but increasing of Hi end Carts... There is demand for high quality of sound after era of compressed MP3s. And company just came back on the market with Hi-end equipment which costs average as much as a house (technics.com) so for them it would be problematic advertise turntable for DJs but yet there is 16 % pitch range for DJs. Personally I understand The reasons for which the company chooses this politics. In today's economy it is impossible to produce high quality product for the same price like 10 years ago (not mentioning 30 years with 3 mln sold units) So they had to choose between to be or not to be. Can anyone imagine Low Quality Technics deck ?? They would be mixed with a bot and I would be first in the first line ... As a product it is MK2 with better engine, better arm, better quality of sound and I think a bit more accurate pitch (but I did not measured it by software yet, opinion is based by my experience) As a quality freak I'm greautful for quality IMPROVEMENTS over a legend. But is there really demand for quality among DJ gear ? Most of DJs use serato or tractor if they use turntables. So why high quality of sound? Why ultimate WOW & Flutter (wow stability obtion( ? Why Damping factor ?? Why High sensitive arm (skip option in serato) ? Sad but True. Also CD Deck costs 1 K average which is Pioneer - Piece of plastic with Panasonic microprocessor and tons of money invested in advertising in the past. But yet there is problem with drooping 1 K for quality deck. And yes oem decks have plenty of issues: Vertical angle arm bearings, damping factor, anti skating, speed stability, overall quality of sound. btw. Pioneer deliberately or not after DJM-600 fitted their mixers with low quality phono pre amps which sound muddy. The reason is there is no demand for high quality of sound anymore, basic DAC will do the JOB which costs 50 gbp. But there is demand for buttons and a lot of functions which is understandable. Regards

[@btsr2553]

as an old ageing DJ once said to me: "Girls are coming and going and I saw many of them, but the twelve hundreds are for life!"

[@itimmy101]

I remember when I first cracked open a pair of M5G's it was amazing!

[@Brizzle293]

The problem with Panasonic is that they don't understand who their primary consumers are. It wasn't audiophiles that were mad and signing petitions when they discontinued the 1200 turntable in 2010, it was DJs. The reason that they sold so many turntables was because of DJs period. We were the ones begging for them to bring them back and they repay us with an overpriced unit that is honestly no better than a 1200 MK5!

[@manukkee]

Cmon man dont be so harsh, the GR is gorgeous and built in japan, compared to the pioneer cdjs plastic crap made in malaysia that cost twice as much as the GR. The 90's are over mate, you cant buy japanese art with under 1000 € anymore.

[@peterlagroove6555]

Who cares about the DJs

[@Stringbean421]

The Technics SL1200 was NEVER designed as a DJ turntable. It was purely for the audiophile market. DJs only took to the SL1200 because of it's robust superior build quality and used them ever since! Fast forward to 2016 and Technics re-introduced their top-of-the-line SL1200 but this time badged it as the SL-1200G later followed by the cheaper SL-1200GR both of which are targeted for the audiophile market and NOT Djs. Fast forward to 2019 and only now can DJs say they truly have a deck designed specially for them, the SL-1210 MK7.

[@yorkemar]

You are paying for sound quality and craft.all the other decks have generic "hanpin" or similar sourced parts but the Technics is bespoke.Get what you pay for...

[@peterlagroove6555]

@def creator Who cares about the Technics SL-1200GR......The real deejay turntables was the first generation SL 1200 AND SL 1100 FROM 1972 Not the crap mk2....since 1979 .I know because i was a deejay since 1976....

[@bitbotrecords]

Wow can't wait for the review of the new GR2 🎉🎉

[@RealDJblaze]

Great work on this review! I was wondering about these and now I know...

[@WazzyTV]

where can i get my dj name on control vinyls like the one dj city got

[@gusgomez7660]

ken ark 12inchskinz.com has em

[@Papopiringa]

ken ark I'm pretty sure those are slip mats and not control vinyls as you're thinking..

[@FSwiftDJ]

Great review but this deck just more for the hi fi stereo market, no vinyl original djs who like solid mixing will like a digital pitch control for example mk5g !! analog pitch is the best that was on the mk2s , for scratching this deck is fine if you swap the feet to make the deck stable , you could get technics 1200 MK2 or mk5 customise it up with LEDs etc much cheaper

[@keithparkhill8546]

They didn't aim at the DJ market because there is no point. More DJs are perfectly content with the cheap OEMs like Stanton.

[@Beatniktv]

Great video! I don't think i will ever not have two 1210's in my possession until the day I die. It would just feel wrong not to see them in my house every day! Shame as a company though they aren't working with DJs to make another industry defining turntable. I have some serious ideas about the next generation to come so maybe i should contact them!!

[@DJAUDIO1]

Great review Mojaxx. A bit baffled about the feet and the placement of the RCA and power adapter inputs. Shame they are so expensive. I spent $600 on 2 MK2's when I was 14 years old. They still work today 24 years later. Definitely One of the best investments I have ever made. This love/hate relationship with DJs from Panasonic and Technics is baffling. I'd love to see the numbers on audiophile only sales and you will probably see a sales spike on this model alone just from DJs maxing out their credit cards to show off. One love Mojaxx.

[@FeeLtheHertZ]

This is still ABSOLUTELY made for DJing - They're going with the tried and true formula for people who want the actual, OG Technics feel and performance. I doubt they'd have the massive pitch adjustment if it wasn't made for DJing (for a Technics, that is), as well as being cut down and obviously designed for club use with the heavy isolation and dampening. They've even mentioned DJ's quite a few times in the information for this deck; It's made for DJing - just because it's doesn't have 1000 +/- pitch adjust and fifty start/stop buttons doesn't mean it's anything less. I'd rather have it like this. Otherwise excellent review and production quality as always, Mojaxx.

[@HBC101TVStudios]

It's made for both audiophile and DJ use though.

[@scratchback2001]

I'm a gay Aussie DJ with some 40 plus years experience. In 1979, I went to a club I loved and the DJ, Paul said darling ya gotta try out these turntables. They looked shiny and new but when I saw they were direct drive, my heart sank thinking of how bad previous domestic direct drive turntables were because there was nothing made for a club and as for torque, pitch adjust, a target light and a stop start button, I thought it was too good to be true BUT as soon as I started using them that Summer, the rest is history. I've hung up my cans now as I'm 2 years off 60 years of age but I bought a brand new Technics SL1200 MK2 with an Ortofon 2M Red cartridge for playback use only in my bedroom. I wanted the first deck released because of my work history so a new 1200 and a Primaluna Dialogue Premium HP Integrated VacuumTube Amplifier, a Pioneer Pro CD player all fed into a pair of Wharfedale standing speakers. My man cave is were my 7.1 surround home cinema resides! Why Matsushita even thought of discontinuing the 1200 and the future decks amazed me. Every man and his dog started releasing copies of the 1200 to the point where it became pathetic. The Stanton ST150 was a great deck but all the others, fingers down the throat time guys and girls! The same was for CD players until Pioneer Pro CD players were released! They're great to use but unless like me you're an audio/visual engineer, the wave forms at the back along with the rest of the eye candy were just that....eye candy! As 2019 draws to a close, I wonder what the the future holds. Vinyl is surging ahead and new Technics SL1200 series decks should be made available with up to date engineering but leave the design alone. With Tractor and Cerato being used, 1200S will always be needed and the good thing with these 2 new formats is that with a switch through button on them, a vinyl DJ can use those switches to bypass them and actually use them live with no hassles. I cannot believe I'm nearly 60! I don't look it or feel it but it's time for future DJs to step up and create magic and diamond dust for the next generation! Cheers people! Andrew from Australia!

[@451911a]

It looks like Technics was looking at Audiophiles on the SL- 1200GR, that’s why I think they still make the SL-1200M7. For DJ use, hence the softer feet on the GR.

[@djangelortiz]

It's fascinating how many DJ's still support the Technic Turntable when It's obvious that technic has no desire to support DJ's. Looking forward to a Mojaxx review on the Denon Prime Turntable!

[@Mojaxx]

DJ Angel Ortiz The company have always had a strange relationship with DJs. On the one hand, seeming to ignore them, and on the other, sponsoring the DMC champs for 20-odd years!

[@djangelortiz]

MojaxxVDJ definitely strange! Keep up the great work Mojaxx! You're doing a great service for the DJ culture. ✌🏼

[@michaelhorgan9525]

Then you have a needle company (ortofon) reporting a drop in sales of their Concorde line but their audiophile line is doing great.

[@djangelortiz]

Jeff Force I am not trying to diminish what they have done for the DJ Culture but what have they done for DJ's in the last 10 yrs? They wouldn't even give Mojaxx a pair to demo!

[@DJPATTYE]

Mate, put simply, this turntable is an enhanced version of the very model that vinyl DJs have sworn by for decades. Their market value holds (and in some cases appreciates) like no other piece of DJ equipment.

[@skeelo69]

My Reloop RP7000 does me fine , no wobbly feet either . Thanks West End DJ for the top service .

[@ageispolis746]

This. Similar quality, half the price.

[@duczmal]

Completed console in the previous photo I missed putting the monitor speakers :-)... I wanted to do a review on these splendid machines the SL1200GR. Build quality is great and sound is crisp..but I want to review the beat mix which is the central thing..tried all three motor settings low medium and high torque..1) low torque :and It's a "listen" setting since the rotation to get up to speed and reach its stability the rotor platter has to make a complete revolution... and if you try to get your hands on the record before the rotor makes a full turn the platter tends to slow down and stop.. so low torque is exclusively for listening.. 2) medium torque: It's the perfect setting for djing use...i.e. it's the same as its mk2 or mk5 predecessor or more precisely to the M5G (we are talking about digital pitch) ... the start in initial acceleration and the rotation stability are like the mk5 (I think that at medium torque the engine force reaches 1.8kg ).. in this setting you can play with your hands by increasing or braking the puck as was the case with the old series and d I must say that they behave very well in this "no drift" mode and the same sensation I had on the mk5 ..but much closer to the m5g since we are talking about digital pitch )..anyway at medium torque I can confirm that putting two discs with the 1200GR is like putting them with its predecessors .. no indomitable behavior as someone had said and which I'm tired of hearing .. therefore to those who buy the 1200 GR I recommend setting it to medium torque (it comes out at high factory torque) .3)High torque: As for the high torque (and this is where people are convinced that the problem is the turntable and not the high torque and they go crazy because the tracks don't keep the mix!) you can mix with the high torque but once you launch the record you have to forget to touch the platter because the high torque compared to the medium torque will not allow you to push the disc with your finger to get it back in sync the power at 2.2 is too high and the motor cannot be handled .. therefore more precisely at high torque the engine does not react to the touches with the hand this is because it is at full power and does not feel the stresses ... to mix with the maximum torque once the disc has been launched you just have to work on the pitch and do pitch riding ... having said that I can't than to be enthusiastic about the 1200GR..I repeat set it to medium torque and you will have the same sensation during the mix of having its predecessor at hand ;-) 😉

[@JonMichaelDeShazer]

I agree that Technics is clearly not building a turntable for DJ's. but why would anyone need pitch control on a turntable if they're not using it for beat matching?

[@Projacked1]

Indeed! great question !!!!

[@cryptidproductions3160]

Fallback If something is wrong with the circuits that regulate the rotation speed where it's not hitting 100% spot on you can use the pitch slider to compensate for it. If you want to experiment and see what certain music sounds like a bit brighter or duller by tweaking the speed you can also do that. Granted, the quartz lock on the 1200 and 1200 clone turntables is so damn good the former rarely happens. I have a Gemini that was built at least 17 years ago and it's still dead on accurate as gauged by the strobe with quartz lock engaged.

[@gregn16]

​@CryptidProductions I absolutely agree. I'm not a D.J., more of an audiofile. When first considering this turntable, I thought I don't need the pitch control, but then the light went on , and thought it'd be MUCH easier/cheaper to adjust / match the proper pitch than sending it in and paying A LOT for the tech. to repair or replace parts. Plus, NO DOWN TIME.😮 🙂

[@SyncroScales]

People are commenting about MK2, MK3, M3D, MK5 etc: There was MK3 briefly. Then the M3D came out. The differences are slight, but the M3D is a better turntable and fixed an issue that the MK3 needed fixed. But the M3D had a problem with the pitch adjust when you used the instant pitch adjust and dragged the pitch adjust back to the middle. That is why the MK5 were made, it was supposed to fix all the problems with the pitch adjust. M3D is kind of like the MK4. People are commenting about Pitch Control and do not understand it: Pitch control is important for all turntables. Pitch control also is used for different RPM's. Or damaged records sometimes. Technics did not explain how to use this function though in an instruction manual. Some companies did.

[@HeatLedgerKicks]

Still got my MK2s, bought second hand, from 1999

[@Dayta]

concidering in a proper setup both scratch turntables are stuck in between the mixer on the inner side and turntable number 3 and 4 on the outer side the horizontal movement is really going down so you can start ripping the shit out of your vinyls. if you only need 2 turntable to play you might as well switch to a winamp playlist play button pressing dj you dont need scratching what you need are balls :) ... anyway thx for the review and mentionening that horizontal problem its good to know for alot of people out there i think dont feel bad about me beeing a bit too honest some times :) i loe this channel so you guys keep going

[@hot4futureyears2come]

great review, i will always keep my 12003d

[@marcoanfuso9492]

SL 1200 GR is it okay as a turntable for dj?

[@rsanchez7111]

My old MK2 will never get old. It works fine. Just like when I got them the first day. Nice vid tho

[@billwillard9410]

First off, I’m not a DJ, never was. The mk2 and the Stanton at the beginning of the 80’s were the tables to buy. I bought a mk2 and had absolutely 0 issues with it, none, not even a bulb replacement. Used the pitch control to speed up songs so I could squeeze one more song onto a cassette. It sat for a while in the 90’s but then a few years ago I hooked it up again and it just picked up where it left off. I’ve done a lot of KAB upgrades to it, but haven’t really noticed a big sound improvement except fir a new cartridge. I would’ve gotten a GR if anyone would’ve told me it was a vast improvement over my mk2, for the money but I haven’t really heard that.

[@DJorDJeDJ]

@mojaxx I'd like to do another video on these with different torque and brake settings while in use. I had em for some time now, and always thought I had em set up properly, but I was wrong all this time, spent some time reading the manual, tried different settings, and.... Oh boy it feels so much different, smoother, easy to mix etc. Paired with xone 96 it's a dream come true. Try it!!!

[@marianobbms]

What setting use now? Thank you for the comment

[@lp6132]

Whats the best setting for mixing ?

[@djsubculture2786]

@@lp6132 I find that adjusting to the lowest torque setting works best for longer blends.

[@daymeongartrell4809]

$4000.00 = 10 OLD 1200'S.

[@nihilionsaro]

1200s. Not 1200's.

[@manukkee]

Or 4000$ = one and a half pioneer cdj nexus 2000 made of plastic in malaysia , you choose ;)

[@marcmarcello981]

All this praise about the 1200 can apply to any good deck in terms of longevity, some garrards are 60 years old and still going strong, in fact the ridiculous amount of circuitry in the 1200s Make them vunerable to failure more than a basic engineered turntable., Oh and the arm bearings are easily displaced.

[@lghaze42]

Bought my 1200 new in '87. $350..still going strong.

[@ClectaSkiMusic]

Good review sir! Keep up the good work!

[@dylvasey]

Great review. I'm having real trouble with understanding why these cost so much. They haven't changed a massive amount of things - Yet they've doubled (or more depending on when you purchased the originals) the price? I assume they've trapped themselves in that regard by charging a fortune for the 'higher grade' models.

[@PrimiusLovin]

It's very rare for me nowadays to watch a renowned DJ still using turntables as their main DJing tool, I can't even remember when was the last time Carl Cox used one for a main gig event... and he has access to tons of vinyl records if he wants/needs to! I've seen some small gigs where turntables are still used, like Livia's performance here on KZbin was the last one I've watched last year, but one-off events aside, where someone wants to show off their manual DJing skills or how it was done in the old days, I'm really not seeing the market for turntables for DJs: they're expensive, very limited in functions compared to CDJS, and require extra workload to perform a DJ set... and I'm not even going to talk about how difficult, expensive and time-consuming it is to find great tracks on vinyl!!

[@Ryoga2K]

A-trak

[@unreliabletraffic9450]

there is music only on vinyl

[@ilikethispost7826]

I'm sure i only paid £250 or £350 each for my 1210 mk 2s 15 years ago. That's crazy when you see how expensive all the modern turntables are.

[@TLRPhotographe]

Mark Anderson old one on the second hand market are pricier...

[@ilikethispost7826]

i know it's crazy. the price is only going to go up as well.

[@TLRPhotographe]

Mark Anderson until the hype goes back again or a REALLY good alternative appears to enthusiast (this GR are made/priced for clubs & touring, not hobbyist IMO)

[@Beatniktv]

I got my 2 1210 MK2s for £400 a pair! I think that might be the deal of a lifetime but I was about 18/19 when it happened so seemed like every penny in the world to me! Still got them sitting next to me nearly 20 years later so a very sound investment!

[@ilikethispost7826]

I'm the same, I'll never sell mine :)

[@stuartbennett4301]

I have a pair and i'm delighted with them. Everything id expect from Technics. Still the top of the tree in my eyes. Worth mentioning I'm not experiencing any problems with the feet.

[@karnhall]

how have you found the digital pitch. Seems a few are complaining at it here saying they find it hard to mix compared to the analog pitch. Keen to know your opinion. Cheers :)

[@paulallen4169]

Yeah how is the pitch, Im hearing mixed reports, I have a pair on the way, I hope the pitch is tight.

[@joshuawilkinson4324]

Yeah I’ve found issues with the pitch with beat matching , I’ve had pioneer plx 1000’s and they seem to gel better when mixing, still getting used to the 1210 gr pitch, I’m not completely sold on them yet

[@timbuursink]

The SL1200 was never ment to be DJ turntable. Although this a great review it's not the right question. Still it's one of the best products ever made in the hifi industrie given the popularity but also production numbers, years of production and not many upgrades sins it's introduction. Oh and it is the best DJ turntable indeed. Even the new one.

[@djbrucelee_barcelona]

Always I have played with these in a club I have a lot of problems mixing... Finally I had to play with the cd players...

[@Atariatari-ky9te]

I am a DJ and Audiophile. Technics SL-1200 MK2 was made for Audiophiles and DJ's. In my opinion it is the best turntable ever made. The feet can be taken off of the SL-1200 GAE, G, or GR but the pitch obviously isn't as good because it is a digital pitch. I always like the snap in for 0 pitch on the SL-1200MK2 to let you know you are at 0 pitch also. To be honest I don't like anything digital on a turntable made to play vinyl records. So I wish Technics would have brought back the analogue pitch. Being that the analogue pitch is better than the digital pitch. My Technics SL-1200MK2 have been refurbished with Gold RCA Cables and I believe they will sound just as good as a GAE, G, or GR if not better (I still use real vinyl at my parties and on my mixtapes. Only use serato if I have too.) Obviously all the SL-1200 tables are the best but I believe the 1979 SL-1200 MK2 is just a hard turntable to beat. If there is nothing wrong with it. Then don't fix it (and their is nothing wrong with the SL-1200 MK2) in my opinion it is the perfect turntable. Plus these Audiophile turntables can't hold pitch like a SL-1200 can, and this is a major reason that Audiophiles should buy a 1200 as well and yes they were made for Audiophiles first. DJ's and Radio broadcasters picked up on them just because they are built like a tank and could with stand the hard DJ use, while also giving you audiophile quality sound. You can DJ with a GAE, G, or GR but I suggest as well to swap out the feet. The feet that come with the SL-1200 MK2 absorb unwanted sound better as well according to some. The GAE, G, or GR are great turntables. The MK2 is still the greatest though in my opinion.

[@dje1944]

Nicely Said!!!!!!!

[@JamesBond-qi3sm]

No it is not audiophile turntable it is wrong totally.,, Audiophile turntable is a fucken belt not direkt drive turntable .,, If you are dj who likes perfect sound that is it .,,, but if you audiophile you will take a belt drive thorens 25 kilos or more

[@bkkersey93]

@@JamesBond-qi3sm Bull fucking shit. Direct Drive turntables are audiophile tables too. Stop buying the "belt drive is better" hype, because that's what it is.

[@Ace-lx6nd]

I feel like it is psychological warfare that Technics is having with DJs in modern times. It looks like it will take a miracle for Technics to come out with a Technics SL-1200 MK5 equivalent. But then again, who knows what the future holds for DJs around the world...... Great review of the product by the way Mojax. I always found your videos very helpful✌😊

[@VoyageOne1]

Technics never gave a flying fig about DJs in the first place

[@DJPATTYE]

Good review mate BUT I have to strongly disagree with your criticism RE the horizontal movement of the feet on the SL-1200/1210GR models. I own a pair of the SL-1210GR turntables and have zero issues while scratching or mixing.

[@watertv1885]

DJPATTYE Nice tour feedback for DJs tô use 1200GR

[@manukkee]

How is mixing with the new pitch ? I didnt like m5g pitch, i bet the GR is much better than any other prrvious model though and worth mire than a plastic pionerr 3000 $ crap made in malaysia

[@djsubculture2786]

I picked up a pair of GRs earlier this year, I'm no "High-Roller", all ready to order a set of 1200 MK2 feet. Started playing on my GRs and completely forgot about the GR feet. Maybe Technics made a production change?

[@marcoanfuso9492]

no change, I also have 2 1200GR, the feet are fine.. you can mix and scratch the platter it doesn't move and even if it were that it oscillates slightly it doesn't affect the head which remains firmly attached to the vinyl, I did. any test and how scratching a mk2!

[@CarlitosDJmx]

so you think 1200 mk series are better than this gr....im tempted about to buy them...now i'm having a big problem deciding ....thanks

[@WaltThizzney415]

I still have my original Optimus prime too, wish I still had my jaba tho! Nice vid, great review

[@OneBadAssDJ]

buy any technics and it will be the best investment you ever made.

[@TheAnunnaki-NYC]

I said those same words to my wife and she allowed me to get 2 mint mk2s I found on Craigslist.

[@aegean_444]

those prices are scam

[@loweni7460]

Or buy reloop 7k mk2 turntables for a better and cheaper experience hell you can even change the torque and wind down on the fly without having to stop the platter completely

[@Turnster]

Nice dude, I really enjoyed that review!!.

[@ThomeTeque]

My SL1200 MK2 is now 20 yo and it is still running like (almost) new ;)

[@matt16103]

"Don't forget your roots, don't forget your culture" a lesson Panasonic seems to have forgotten completly

[@grey5626]

SL-1200GR2 is out now; how will it compare?

[@JamBurglar]

You killed it on this review (despite the UK "teckniks" pronunciation thing, haha). The cost on these is tough without the features (pitch range and midi input in particular). I've got a Vestax Controller 1 but I still like the feel of 1200s. So smoooooth.

[@Mojaxx]

JamBurgler I remember how weird it was when I first heard Americans say 'techniques' back in the day. Like, nah mate, it's techniks innit. ;)

[@GrayRealities]

Someone needs to make a break down video of the G and the GR or GAE so we can see whats inside we need a close look at the inside of these tables and see the built quality ...??? I'm tried of seeing the same'o show off and set up videos "Lets see whats inside" Open it up and you will get some real views???

[@everett7903]

$1700 is unreasonable and the company is missing out on the interest in vinyl. I paid $400 for each of my 1210s in 1994 and they still run well. The price needs to be around $800 which is still a lot. I just can't see what new tech warrants a $1700 price tag. I'll stick with my 1210s until panasonics comes back to reality. I'd really really really, like to know who is paying $1700 or $4000 for a turntable. I just don't see the point.

[@Jens-ottoSeydel]

1994 hast für 1 VW Golf auch dir hälfte bezahlt . 1994 hast du für 1 Pfund Butter oder 1 Liter Milch auch die Hälfte Bezahlt. Für eine Miete für eine Wohnung auch die Hälfte bezahlt. Ein Haus zu kaufen 1994 auch die Hälfte zu jetzt

[@lachleutenettmenschen6498]

So, jetzt ist der "Neue" SL1200 mk7 angekündigt der für DJing geeignet sein soll. Wenn der dann mal auf dem Markt ist, dann könnt Ihr den mal testen, macht wahrscheinlich mehr Sinn.

[@TemujinScott80]

Technics turntables were made for audiophiles that were made popular by DJ’s. They are catering to the audiophile more these days

[@akinkunmicook2977]

Great review! Shame on Technics for snubbing the dj market! That may come back to haunt them as there are better audiophile turntables for cheaper!

[@manukkee]

Really, like the continuum calibrum or what ?

[@k.musitano4754]

I still like my M5Gs better then this new models,very solid and no issues what so ever

[@frostwise87]

Great review mate

[@Nkdzani]

I cant say i'm surprised at all. Looks like the Denon Prime VL12 and the other super oems (PLX, Stantons and Reloops) will be the major players in the turntable game. Great review !!!

[@Mojaxx]

Nii Dzani The VL12s are the potential dark horse right now. These are certainly much more nicely made than the Super OEMs, but 2x/3x the price will be a hard thing to justify (or afford) for many. And that's if you ignore the option of used older 1200s.

[@Nkdzani]

Agreed ! Iv heard some good things about them audio quality wise but not enough from djs. I hope you get your hands on a set to road test with. I have a feeling they might just be the new kings. I think most serious DJs won't mind the price point to be fair.

[@boogiedownbronx73]

lol and i just bought 2x NM Technics SL1210mk2 the other day for 1000 GBP glad i did tho

[@fedscame]

theabstrakt84 be glad cant beat that

[@zhao-skitheprodigy6884]

Excellent review!

[@supremeuppercut]

GREAT review!

[@dennisgenovese227]

SUPER QUALITY ❤️

[@naughtystudios]

Just Bought a Brand New Pair of these - You can Scratch like a Demon on it and it Doesn’t Jump at all. Definitely different than my MK2’s that I have for Beat Matching. Take a bit of getting used to but Such a Beautiful Turntable.

[@NastyRhythm]

How are they to beat match on? One of my 1200s needs a new tonearm, and im considering getting the gr instead. But i mainly scratch so I'll prob just swap the feet over and isnt a massive deal breaker. Is the digital pitch that bad to beat batch on?

[@naughtystudios]

@@NastyRhythm awesome to scratch on. Mine never jump out of the groove. Beat matching is definitely different. Not as enjoyable as my MK2 1210’s that I have. I’ve seen a review comparing the Black MK7 and the GR. The guy said Althought the Black MK7 definitely feels cheaper than the GR it was much more like using a MK2 than the GR. if I’m honest I’d of rather bought a Really Nice pair of MK2’s than the GR’s. But you don’t know until you try these things do ya.

[@NastyRhythm]

@@naughtystudios ah thanks for the reply mate. Yer I think I'll just get a sl1500c tonearm as they are a straight swap apparently. I love my 1200s, and the only reason i considered the gr was because parts are getting so expensive for the mk2s now. Plus you know, opening a new shiny pair of technics is a special experience haha the pitch does put me off. I had a pair of M5G's years ago and i found the pitch really weird on them.

[@VoyageOne1]

Do a review on the new ST150 M2

[@mgtow-balance3409]

great review. now lemme add my few cents: 1) way back in the day i bought my first brand new 1200s for $250 each!! now i know that was a long time but ago, but NO WAY would i ever pay this much for a turntable. right now there are too many choices in premium turntables to even think about spending $1,000's for a technics set. anywhere in the $400 - $800 range will give you way more performance AND value than a set of 1200's (and of course, this doesn't even take into consideration the amount of DJ's who would choose to go the controller route instead of spending that much) 2) as for parent company panasonic, it's pretty sucky that DJ's were the bread 'n' butter of 1200 sales, but still you get all snobby and push the 1200s to "audiophiles." now a few years later you're gonna try to get that DJ market back because ain't too many people gonna spend $1,000s on turntables. so you come out with a unit that sells for ONLY $4,000!! are you crazy?! i don't care if you are technics. also you blew it by initially retiring the turntables, then bringing them back with a HUGE price, now you have a cheaper, not as good model and it's STILL $1,700!! in my opinion this is a huge black eye for the brand. panasonic, if you really want to get back with DJs, you have to adapt to the modern world and make a new digital turntable, similar to numark v7. full midi, touch strip, 8 pads, etc. alternatively you can build a hybrid unit, a'la the reloop turntable. limiting yourself to just vinyl is limiting your sales revenue. your crazy high prices are keeping yourselves out of the huge market of "the average DJ" (and remember you're not competing digitally either). plus either one of these units should not be priced higher than $1,000 so listen up panasonic, this is from a DJ who's rocked his 1200s for over 20 years!! and im quite sure im not the only one who feels this way. i hope y'all are listening thank you ps: to add to this, i also currently own a pair of gemini pdt 6000 turntables, which i bought for $200 each back then. and guess what? they perform as good or better than the technics i previously owned. and these units i bought like 20 years after the 1200's. it shows that even back then there were TT's that were as good or better than 1200s

[@jamessouthworth1699]

FU Technics. DJ's made you famous and richer and this is how you thank them? This is a slap in the face.

[@emphatic001]

Very informative review!

[@getupandgotransport6344]

Sorry being that techniques left the game left opportunity for other market tables. Not worth the money I rather get the reloops 8000.

[@manukkee]

You will never encounter those Reloops in clubs and you will never be able to rent them or re-sell them at a good price, so they might be cheaper, but they are not an investment. Technics made in Japan models will always hold value, you can always RENT them, you will find them in all major clubs and you will NEVER loose money with Technics. I NEVER lost money buying Technics turntables, always rented them, recovered all the money i paid for them and always sold them at higher prices than i paid for them, you make new friends, new connections when you have a nice pair of sl 1200. GO TECHNICS !

[@djxsquizit]

Same here. Reloop RP8000 MK2 turntables are the way to go. These over priced Technics are lame

[@TemujinScott80]

@@djxsquizit no they aren’t.

[@djxsquizit]

@@TemujinScott80 wanna bet and battle 😎

[@robertalexander2478]

just go get a pair of old 1200's and have them rewired if needed, saves you money and performance!

[@masterlix3034]

Is a review of the GR2 incoming? @djcitytv

[@vicg5323]

Sounds like the deck for me . Thanks

[@Papopiringa]

I beg to differ, the technics 1200 was always marketed as a "disco" turntable as most audiophiles would NEVER use a direct drive motor and the preference was and still is a belt drive for those that still cherish their old vinyl collections (do your own research). Prior to 1980 must clubs were using the 1600's which was another manual tt. Let's get the facts about the review, i.e. Wobbly feet ect. But the pluses as well. I personally just by looking at your video like the fact that the RCA cables are replaceable as that has always been an issue with the 1200's and having a removable power cord is also a plus. I get that having wobbly feet is not a good thing and perhaps swapping the feet with the old ones might be a fix but I don't agree that it isn't marketed as a Dj turntable, especially at that price point!

[@Papopiringa]

Correction: I meant the 1800's manual

[@Beatniktv]

.......they always look wrong to me set up that way though! Battle style always just looks right now!!!

[@djmorgan5708]

Can you still do the trick of a platter kick by holding the 33 down and quickly pressing the 45?

[@davidfuster6919]

Dj Morgan I also wonder to know it. Seems that if you do that it will activate the 78rpm mode. If it is the case, it's a very silly step back... that trick is awesome.

[@djmorgan5708]

It is a nice little feature, i come across it by accident in the early 90's messing around and don't really touch the platter for mixing using this.

[@davidfuster6919]

Me too. With a single "click" it goes to the exact place

[@irritablysavvy]

If it's not for DJs, then why put a pitch control on it?

[@FlyCasual1]

erratic_calm yeah I thought that too

[@Coxee1]

Analogue Hi-Fi maniac's says: why a hi-fi turnie should not have pitch control? And a lot of them has. They believe more on speed accuracy watching on strobe light then on factory setting.

[@irritablysavvy]

I also learned that back when vinyl was the dominant consumer format, there was initially no standard playback speed so pitch was added for broadcast and playback. It also makes sense for producers who are sampling into an MPC, ASR or DAW, etc.

[@pauldionne2884]

Agree. As an audiophile, the last thing I want to see is a pitch control. I want Engineers from the Large Hadron Super Collider calling me and asking how many revolutions my turntable has gone since new year's eve so they can calibrate their accelerator.

[@TheAnunnaki-NYC]

Audio-Technica AT-LP240-USB is the only SuperOEM DJ style turntable that lacks a pitch.

[@lk0707]

If this is not a dj deck, there shouldn't be pitch control

[@kronos9685]

I got mine still

[@Kwippy]

It's great for DJ's. Which begs the question why anyone would want to buy it who isn't a DJ or doesn't want to pretend to be one as you can get far better much more musical turntables for the price.

[@TheBASS2DARK187]

Great video 👌

[@djevohill]

wow! thats a lot of $£€.. I'd buy a used set and get them restored.. But lets keep our fingers crossed for something more in budget and dj friendly!

[@shawnwaldrop3702]

So, will this drive the price up on the used market?

[@williamgainesville980]

DjcityTv , which turntable brand you recommend for deejaying then if technics 1200gr is for audiophiles ? What’s the best turntable for mixing more then scratching ? I’m old school dj , I had technics 1210 bought new year 1994 then sold them year 2000 , which I regret for rest of my life , I’m planning on again buying new turntables not sure what to buy , technics 1200gr / pioneer plx 1000 , plx 500 , audiotechnica , etc .

[@ghostrider_2104]

You can say anything you like But you can't touch the merchandise She'll give you every penny's worth But it will cost you a dollar first..... or in this case $1200

[@naterally2176]

TTX put the Techs in the thrift store many years ago

[@cgnieves1]

I have one fully functional from 1972

[@illreel5169]

Wow Technics now we see why you didn't want a review on youtube... We love the 1200/1210 MKII design... That's been proven... But you need to focus on updating your product more like the deck this guy had customized to compete not switching feet!!! I wish I was in the focus group I've been a Dee Jay in NYC,CT&NC since I was 9 yrs old & I'm 45 now.... I could help you build the perfect deck in less than 2 weeks for a reasonable consumer amount... #FactzNotFiction.... .:WAX:.

[@FabrizioLuraghi]

Its like Pioneer vs Denon, Technics vs Vestax or Rane

[@criminologue]

We can notice that the platter wobble... That is not normal... I had the same problem with one that I bought. I asked for a refund. On many forums, many buyers have had this problem .... Technics is not able to create a perfect product for 1500 euros. It is regrettable. It is time that he replaced manual control with real machine control. It is because of this that this model is full of imperfections

[@peterlagroove6555]

This was an audiophile table not a mixing table .....

[@Tnapvrvideo]

Wonderful share! Might anyone know if the speed can be manually adjusted on this turntable if the strobe light indicates the need? This TT would be used at home. I am not a DJ so I have no idea if the slide mechanism to the right of the tonearm can be used to make micro adjustments to freeze the strobe light at the perfect 33 speed. Thanks!

[@ACCOUNTANTB]

Ita figured that they made it as a new Hi-Fi turntable...but not for dj market at all All replacement parts would be very expensive..such as the quartz motor and the optical pitch system.....further maintenance is certain a pain in the ass...course this guys are made t last....but one day you need to maintenance...

[@Dbulkss]

Can you make a review of the Denon v12 Turntable for Djing. Thanks!

[@coolbreez773]

Surprised DJCity has never reviewed the original Stanton STR8 / ST 150 or their new MKII's

[@donvito8652]

I can't get any good info on using any DJ deck for home listening. Can you contrast and compare with Denon VL12 for home HiFi use.

[@yorkemar]

Very pleasedI bought my Mk2 new in 2010...is it possible to fit the mk7 feet to the GR?..apparently they are more stable.

[@realfacthunt]

Bit of a silly question, but in this digital world maybe it isn't so silly.

[@seatleonish]

The GR is certainly not designed for DJing, but lets not forget that the original decks weren't either. It was simply a Technics HiFi separate. Around 1972 in the hip hop genre, the likes of the Wizard and Grand Master Flash started using them for there game, DMC's around the world soon jumped on the bandwagon as they discovered when paired together the SL'S were the perfect duo together. Set up was key and soon DJ'S who mixed dance music for a living found their pride and joy too. So it was by chance that these decks became our weapon of choice, even when i got my first pair at 16 years of age back in 92. I bagged myself a job at a Panasonic Service Center, got a brand new SL1210Mk2, then shortly after no 2 arrived, both at trade, coming out of my monthly wage. I recently returned to spinning black crack after 18 years of having nothing to do with the rave scene, I got a budget set up to start with, but soon fell inlove with it all again almost as soon as the stylus hit the first choon. I then saved for some technics, I saw the GR's had hit the market and so saved a bit longer for a brand spanking pair. Having money in the old ssavings account, I went to purchase them with no looking into them at all, after all they're technics, right? I am telling the absolute truth here, I got them home in the afternoon one Saturday, then went to grab a couple of Stanton Concorde cartrdges and stylus, waited until after the family meal, then went upstairs to set them up, along with my new pioneer DJM 350 mixer. As soon as I went for my first mix, I realised I'd made one of the biggest mistakes in 43 years of financial spend decisions, they were unstable due to the stupid feet on them, the torque from factory is set at ludicrous speed, one can alter this I know, then theres the speed pitch, which i just could not be doing with, I'd take analogue pitching over digital anytime, although since this horrid days passed I've used digital pitch decks with no probs at a few parties I've done. The GR simply needs to sit at the very top of your seprates or at the side of your whatever set up you have, but I'm sure there are much better separates on the Market. I looked into buying Mk2 feet but they are a fortune 2nd hand, I contacted the store and asked if I could return them after a week of just being fed up with them, they advised me no way at all, should have mail ordered as then you have 14 days to return goods just because you want to. So before i send people to sleep reading this dead sea scroll, I sold them loosing over sixteen hundred quid of my hard earned savings, then went on Ebay and paid good money on a pair of totally unmarked 1210Mk2's. I've always preferred the Mk2s as they are built with less torque, are more forgiving in the mix, plus hold the beat mix spot on due to the speed pitch being so great to mix with. Yes I was a complete numpty for doing no research, part of it was that I was scared of being ripped off on a 2nd hand pair, plus Iike to buy new, for guarantees and all that. I can still work and service my decks though, so really I had nothing to worry about did I? Which shows how even more bloody stupid I was. Thanks for a great channel, you sorted me out with leads and all that i needed to stream on Android and record straight to it too, love peace and unity in rave/dance/whatever format you spin on.😎🎧🎶🙌