Is the Traveler doomed in Natlan vs Capitano? (Genshin Impact 4.6 Lore, Theory and Reaction)

[@FRaptor-wl6ku]

Considering that Arlecchino humbled us I won’t be surprised if the CAPTAIN would send us to the shadow realm just by looking at us and the same can be said for Columbina

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

capitanos a good man. a hella strong one. but a good man

[@FRaptor-wl6ku]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia ok then explain Columbina who Childe and Scaramouche told us to STAY AWAY from I’m just saying

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

I am not gonna be surprised if Capitano dueled the Pyro Archon for the pyro Gnosis by trial of combat and won

[@FRaptor-wl6ku]

@@idontspeakjapanese6289 oh dude bro ll Captaino is gonna to SPIN the Pyro Archons block without even trying I won’t be surprised if that happened

[@porcelainpup]

All he gotta do is sneeze and we're fucked

[@zhongligaming1690]

Guys it's OK Aether was doing a no elements challenge run

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

AHAHAHAHA

[@isdrakon9802]

That's what really pisses me off, not only are we more impressive than she thought, we weren't using 5/6 of our power, and we already fought and beat someone stronger than her also without elements

[@erika002]

​​@@isdrakon9802 yeah it is really a strange decision for the Traveler to still cling with his/her dull blade and not use her elements. Regardless of which however - they DID finally and actually pointed out that the Traveler is weak. Edit: And I disagree that the Traveler can even get close to Arlecchino, she had help from a lot of people before, and she used her elements more or less, and the only person she truly more or less defeated by herself is Childe. Other than that, there's someone helping or buffing her up.

[@namelessvoid9725]

@isdrakon9802 I really hope your not talking about scaramouche since arlecchino would mop him so far in a 1v1 with no assistance have we beaten someone as strong as arlecchino.

[@namelessvoid9725]

@isdrakon9802 also they weren't trying to kill each other and it was literally stated that arlecchino was holding back.

[@OutboundFlight87]

Arlechinno is the first of the Harbinger fights that really shows that "the top harbingers are god-like"

[@gustavju4686]

Poor Scara 😅

[@p.istvan8744]

To be fair Scara only lost because Nahida helped.

[@scoobydoo1518]

The top 3 but yes she is in the top 4

[@scoobydoo1518]

​@@p.istvan8744and also the device which had wisdom from entire sumeru so scara was powerful Ideally but when u realise that scara was just a test subject ... for dottore

[@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn]

Wich is telling because she isnt even one of the godlike ones. Nahida said the top 3 is above gods and Arlechino is 4th. Imagine what Capitano, Dotore and Columbina can do.

[@jasondragonsbane8283]

Honestly, unless the Traveler get's his act together, he's getting whooped. Man needs to rely more on his elements.

[@johnnyjoestar1249]

Nah the dull sword is more superior

[@daridon2483]

He's getting fire element in natlan. Traveler, you got 6 elements by now, please remember to use ANY of them

[@celebisme2114]

@@daridon2483 and in the fight against childe he uses anemo and geo at will like use all 6 bro

[@daridon2483]

@@celebisme2114 It's kinda sad how there was a clear progression in the traveller's power during the first 3 nations You first encounter signora (8th harbringer) with 1 element and she inmediately rolls you on the floor, as expected Then you encounter childe (11th harbringer), who is on even grounds while you are using 1 element, but then is caught by surprise when you use 2, forced to go all out and yet you managed to defeat him anyways Then you find signora again with 3 elements, and now you're on even grounds with her, finally overcoming her strength and defeating her in a fair duel. Very clear path that makes you feel the traveller is getting stronger with each new element, but after sumeru they basically nerfed him back to zero in favour of promoting the next banner character. Even the most recent show of strength was against arlecchino (4th harbringer) with 5 elements, which only managed to get her into serious mode before inmediately getting humbled If he doesn't get a big powerboost in natlan, he is gonna have it very rough against the TOP 3 HARBRINGERS

[@Blackjax137]

MHY seems to be pushing the "not all Harbingers are bad" angle with Arlecchino, Wanderer/formerly Scaramouche and Tartaglia. So I wouldn't be surprised if Il Capitano is actually... A pretty stand-up kinda guy in constrast to La Signora, Il Dottore etc. Natlan was in a constant state of war *before* he and the Fatui ever threw their hat in the ring. So could be the first time we see the Traveller buddy up with the Fatui as part of the Archon Quest, in an effort to stop whatever is going on over there.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

seeing signora mentioned in the same breath as dottore giving me heart attack

[@Blackjax137]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Haha. Signora is def not as bad Dottore but she kicked our Venti, tried to kill Traveller then pleaded with Raiden to kill Traveller so... Hardly a paragon of virtue either lol. But yeah I think Arlechinno, Il Capitano, possibly Columbina are going to be used to change our perception of the Fatui and even the Tsarita (Arle deems her sincerely compassionate and warm). There's just some bad eggs.

[@vietcuongnguyenle8530]

@@Blackjax137signora have personal feud with venti She kick venti because he failed his responsiblity as monstach god with her I think the only reason she not kill venti either because she know venti just pretend he weak so she take the chance to kick him or tsaritsa forbid her revenge

[@Appers]

Worth noting that in one of the only lines we have from Capitano he says '[Signora's] methods tarnished her honour', so he's pretty explicitly setting himself up as having higher moral principles than the "bad harbingers". That said, he then follows that up by asking Dottore how he's doing with his experiments so who knows what's going on with that guy

[@Blackjax137]

@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 La Signora hated Venti little more than she did the rest of The Seven, Celestia, The Heavenly Principles and Teyvat itself. Her lover, Rostram, a Knight of Favonius and presumed successor to the then Grand Master perished during the Mondstadt expedition to Khaenri’ah. Fighting monsters as consequence of the Cataclysm. Bereaved, consumed by vengeance, Signora became the Crimson Witch of Flame. Her then hatred for the world, her grief for the future stolen from her, made her mutually aligned with The Tsarita and the Fatui Harbingers. Who seek to usurp the Usurper King to create a new world. One where anything like what Signora experienced could never happen again. What she didn’t know or care to know before beating on Venti and until meeting with Rex Lapis, is that even The Seven Archons aren’t too pleased with Celestia, The Heavenly Principles or even being Archons. She was only able to beat Barbatos/Venti because, as The God of Freedom, he refused to rule over Mondstadt on principle. That, as Venti explains prior, is why he was weakened. He was no longer the Barbatos said to flatten mountains with a whisper or able to accidentally create the Golden Apple Archipelago while terraforming Mondstadt. Nor did he want to be.

[@crammothy]

The worst part of all this is that since the traveler used 0 elements, we don’t know how large the gap between Arlecchino and the Traveler is (and she said the traveler is stronger than she expected despite her knowing the traveler’s feats, so no element traveler is stronger than at least the 8th rank harbinger and below). I just hope that the powerscaling in Natlan is not horribly inconsistent, even though we know that the traveler gets a lot stronger with every new element. Maybe a Dainsleif quest (4.7 hopefully) will give us a power up as well.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

wonder if its too soon for us to grab that sweet power from beyond lmfao

[@mihacimpric745]

​@@DawitsLookingforEmiliaThe Traveler's original power is also technically power from beyond.

[@crammothy]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia It might be. That power could be what we get in Khaenri’ah instead of a new element. It has to be noted that the traveler without elements is still an absolute monster considering what I said in my previous comment so that might be due to the full power returning.

[@X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X]

Something people don't seem to realize is that just because the Traveler wasn't SHOWN using the Elements in the cutscene, doesn't mean they weren't using them in the fight lol. I don't think it would've made a difference even if we weren't using the Elements. It's clear with or without them we were already winded once standing up to her in the cutscene, and the fact that she humbles us to the point where we can't even move to activate our Elements in the first place just shows that the gap is large.

[@RadaKadem]

the cutscene is the fight lmao

[@Joshua-vu9ny]

how funny would it be we walk in the arena with the captain he one shots us and then it skips to credits

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

AND THEN WE SWITCH TO OTHER TWIN AND CONTINUE FROM THERE. GO TO NATLAN AND RES THE SIBILING

[@MikeSwapp]

😂

[@Asm0sday]

You guys are underestimated Traveler too much . in term of power we are nothing,in term of techniques and experience we are something. Traveler only survived because of his skill in fighting, not because of his power because it is already sealed.

[@anadaere6861]

@@Asm0sday Trav is a survivor. That for sure is their main power. You can keep pummeling em and theyd keep standing up. But yeah no, even in full power, with their twin, they still got bodied HARD by the Sustainer, so they need extra power or some allies

[@Asm0sday]

@@anadaere6861 Traveler was beaten by Sustainer because they don't think before act,do you charge into a tank without knowing what it does?obviously not,in war or battle,we must know what the enemy ability are first. Then we can be careful of it,Traveler can avoid getting trapped if Traveler did not look at the eyes a(know her ability ) we would still lose because we are weak in term of power and from exhaustion ofc

[@Nanii_nani]

Either capitano turnes out to be a really nice wholesome strong big man or we are doomed

[@johnnyjoestar1249]

He actually a nice guy he saved a women in one of the artifacts story but that women decided to be disrespectful and screamed at his face and ran away without saying thanking him

[@Nanii_nani]

@@johnnyjoestar1249 there is a capitano lore already??? I need to check it out

[@danita122]

@@Nanii_nani they are talking about bloodstained knight artifact set description, and no - he's not confirmed to be Capitano

[@shafeekabdool3466]

He kills ruin guard with crayon so he must be a nice guy right right?

[@xiwhiplash2523]

Its either plot armour or we get our backs blown out.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

here we go with the backs blown out shit again lmfao

[@walnut2446]

I mean I ain’t complaining if my back getting blown out by Capitano ngl…

[@1Gymfreak1]

Hopefully I get blown in the front 😏

[@Frostborne2778]

Daddy Peruere uuuooogh 😭😭😭

[@frootloop3568]

@@walnut2446Mane what😂

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

Traveler about to charge against Capitano but then the Traveler turns into a cheese by Pierro unable to fight 🤣🤣

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

LMAO

[@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_]

traveller gonna do naruto "talk no jutsu" if she/he cant win

[@Iliketraumatizing_Ocs]

@@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_ Thats the only option they have

[@tabletennisstars1227]

@@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_ they dont even talk 😭

[@ALL_FOR_NOTHING_]

@@tabletennisstars1227 the budget VA only last minuet or crucial moment..

[@alejandronunez5110]

Traveler is either getting their back blown out or Inazuma level of plot armor, or the training arc route.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

back blown out is crazy lmfao

[@PoyoPoyomfs]

Maybe natlan is our training arc.

[@alejandronunez5110]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia considering how Arlecchino dog walked the traveler a fight against Capitano would be a violation

[@alejandronunez5110]

@@PoyoPoyomfs one can only hope

[@AiNotions1]

Add level 90-100 or make a way to convert all elements into one

[@CelticBotansDigitalArt]

Something I've been thinking too is that the Traveler might have recognized the Crimson Moon when it appears behind Arlecchino, whatever that is or what it means. I kinda had a little bit of that impression, that the sight of that made the Traveler connect some dots and/or realize something about Arlecchino's nature or true identity and just... freaking kept that to themselves. It's kinda easy to forget that the Traveller knows a lot more than they let us know, cause that mf won't talk about anything they remember from the Cataclysm or their time with the Abyss Sibling unless asked, and even then it's a stretch, lol. We know the Traveler knows about Khaenr'iah and it's hinted that they probably have been there before it was destroyed. So, them seeing the Crimson Moon, and we players knowing how tied that imagery is to Khaenr'iah lore and Perinheri, I dont' really think it's a stretch to believe Traveler recognized that somehow, and maybe that's what truly scared them.

[@sound995]

Maybe natlan would be the place where the traveler resurrection, where he can resurrect his lost strength just like the Phenix or a supernova

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

interesting metaphor ig lol. ig we dont exactly know "where" their power was "sealed". be it in them or otherwise

[@sound995]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia then maybe the traveler power is in their original sword because he could be using dullblade more because he was used to using his sword with their power in it.

[@Asm0sday]

I think not,more like pyro archin giving traveler power. because unseating traveler right now would be weird

[@penguinlord6098]

Nah bruh we playing Sekiro with Natlan💀💀💀💀

[@sound995]

@@penguinlord6098 that would be fun for me who finished sekiro with only 18 deaths on the first run.

[@thatguy2087]

I genuinely can't believe that the traveller switched to geo for navias quest, BUT DIDNT EVEN CROSS HIS MIND TO USE ANYTHING 😭

[@allg3559]

Traveler wants to flex

[@thatguy2087]

@@allg3559 he really tried go band for band with arlecchino but didn't flex any, and arlecchino humiliated him by flexing EVERYTHING even showing the crimson moon 😭😭

[@fierytigergaming8112]

He/She also used electro when saving Thoma from Baal (GOD it's trippy how that was her original name)

[@kawaiilone]

@@fierytigergaming8112 baal was makotos name, we saved thoma from the raiden puppet

[@fierytigergaming8112]

@@kawaiilone Lol, my original suspicion was that Baal WAS the puppet (I'm not too good on remembering specific details)

[@TinkRomero]

I honestly can’t blame the Traveler for losing, they have so many things holding them back; A powerful seal on their powers, Their original sword is still MIA, Useless fairy who refuses to be a meat shield, plot armor being persistent in the fact that it’s armor and not a weapon, Volumes 1-9 on Sword-fighting Techniques Knowledge Capsules, confused if they’re scared or excited to be fighting against Arlecchino, lived their whole existence not using any power except their own to now having to rely on another power that’s not their own. I can keep going on, really I can. I really want to, really I do. But the thumbnail of the next video has Arlecchino shushing me, so I’ll shush myself for now. With that being said, am I the only one who found the Traveler’s dialogue of “Crimson Moon?” to be a bit … suspiciously like recognition of the moon? Or am I just imagining that? (Wouldn’t be the first time I imagined something to be suspicious when it was actually just normal behavior.)

[@tabletennisstars1227]

what is that volume 1-9 thing about? also crimson moon sht is sus for sure

[@TinkRomero]

@@tabletennisstars1227 it’s the Knowledge Capsule we bought from Dori, the one that Alhaithem helped us out with, by testing our strength before and after taking the Knowledge Capsule.

[@kotarouinugami1745]

@@tabletennisstars1227 In Sumeru storyline, the Traveler used Canned Knowledge "Swordfighting Techniques VIII". Which gave them a whole lot of experience in swordfighting gleaned from Irminsul. Which translates to increasing the Traveler's attack by 3. Because Canned Knowledge is mostly useful for beginners who lack that kind of experience.

[@ii-xl2vb]

haven't you realized? despite they life long beyond 500 years. They appeared like a child, act like a child, iq like a child, experience also like a child. They still even struggled against npc in world quest why people think they are strong? if signora lost to this fraud then she's even more fraud.

[@JaxElectroSaiyan]

bruh what happens if the Traveler is the one that dies against a Harbinger, but the playable characters are the ones to revive them 💀

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

i wanna see the abyss sibiling intervene when their twin is faced with death. thatd be some shit

[@JaxElectroSaiyan]

​@DawitsLookingforEmilia That would be a good scenario too. Hoyo has given us a good enough twist each archon quest

[@Rabu072]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia That would be amazing

[@Gabrielfromuktrakill]

Honestly this is great but I imagine the scenario differently, the first act of the archon quest will be set on dragonspine and the first antagonist of course evil albedo as he steals the body of the travler and becomes him as he destroys all of mondstat but don't fear Bennett is here as he murks him by extension the traveler making Bennett enemy number 1 and the most hated person in teyvat making all to people in mondstat despise him with the exception of his close friends fischl and razor so he goes to an expedition in natlan trying to revive the traveler,

[@FirstLast-wk3kc]

... Traveler is a playable character too.

[@C4ptainoodles]

One thing I do wanna say is that Aether seemed a lot more scared about seeing the crimson moon than Arlecchino

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

u think they recognize it? i dont think we know when the crimson moon dynasty do we? or it could have come connection with the abyss

[@sound995]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia didn't we see the crimson in one of the trailer's of the abyss sibling

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

ya. but the traveler didnt so far as we know

[@sound995]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia the trailer takes place when the fall of the nation without gods happened? The same time when the traveler wanted to leave tayvat right?

[@wPhia]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I'm pretty sure he caught a glimpse of it, but I don't remember if it was from the Abyss sibling's memories, or just a flashback. Correct me if I'm wrong, but during the cutscene with Arlecchino he refers to it as "A crimson moon" So he must have at least heard of it. It was also mentioned in the notes found around the ruins in Fontaine.

[@captaindanger13]

Something I've noticed is in each archon quest that has a really big super powerful threat to fight, we've had help from other people. In Mondstadt, we had the squad and even a bit of Venti's powers in the flying fights. In Liyue, we had the adepti and the qixing channel their power into the traveler. In Inazuma, we had the wishes of every vision in the statue that had all the visions in it and also Yae Miko. In Sumeru, we had Nahida use samsara shenanigans and the knowledge of everyone in Sumeru (biggest "phone a friend" situation ever lol). And in Fontaine, we had Neuvillette share his dragon authority. During Arle's fight, all we had was the twins and Fremy. They're just 3 teenagers. lol

[@captaindanger13]

As I was reading other comments, I noticed Dawit said he said this already which is a big oof for me cuz I somehow didn't hear it. lol

[@captaindanger13]

ok as i continued to read the comments, I see I am one of many to type the same exact thing about this. lmao

[@L16htW4rr10r]

Enjoy reading it either way

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

AHAHAHA ITS ALL GOOD MANN

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Yeah. I think Travelers ability will scale higher with the powers of those who grant them power to overcome the obstacle, which is why the Hearth siblings weren't enough to aid Traveler.

[@castellaro12]

You know what i dont undestand? I always thought that what would make the traveler strong against the Fatui would be controlling multiple elements, but in all the cutscenes they show him using only his sword. Where is the traveler that against Tartaglia surprised him using 2 elements? Why doesn't he use them anymore?

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

great question

[@Sntra101]

Maybe he knew it won’t have worked against her as she’s just that strong

[@naturalhorn]

I think he was frozen with fear and was very surprised

[@zimagzeravla]

After seeing how weak his Hydro powers are, he opted for a physical build lmao

[@Mirenchan]

i am afraid they got rusty after so many music festivals

[@friolle]

If you read arlecchino domain description, it was mentioned that traveler faced "rude awakening" when he faced crimson moon. I think aside from being too intimidated by arlecchino, it's also given that traveler still have trauma about the red moon lol

[@tochichukwuocha1607]

I'm simply just upset that he didn't use a single element in the fight. Like its fine if he gets washed but like at least go all out on her.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

right

[@raimeino]

i bet he wanted to keep him being able to wield multiple elements in his sleeve so he can do some surprise attacks, but thats so stupid cuz fatui already know that he is able to wield multiple elements at once...

[@GhostlyGhost333]

That was one thing I was upset with. He has access to anemo, geo, electro, dendro, and hydro. Yet he can’t even use it once during the fight? I thought he wanted to test himself out against the 4th harbinger? I guess not.

[@jakeblitzcoffie4859]

Short answer? yes. Long answer? Plot armor. Another W video!

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

plot armor is one hell of a drug aint it

[@SolHati0828]

Would be cool if the sibling steps in

[@thedarkfox4517]

@@SolHati0828 Would be cool if I do say so myself.

[@supernieva2419]

Plot armor or Capitano see us as a viable asset on their war with celestia and decide to train us. We got training arc with Capitano,Sandrone testing her creations against us, and Dottore doing experiments to increase our combat abilities.

[@sama14ful]

@@supernieva2419 defo not the doctor he is an actual villain

[@anonymouscommenter2425]

Next dainsleif quest better give the traveller a massive power boost, or at least an explanation as to why they tend to keep their ability to manipulate all the elements hidden(so far very few have actually seen the traveller use elements without a vision, navia + the inazuma thing and childe but other than that people have only ever seen the traveller go physical)

[@babyjiren9676]

Bro all I want is to see traveler using his brain juice in one single goddamn fight. All they do is hack and slash and start panting like an idiot when it doesn't work. It's pathetic. At least make their losses seem believable like some effort was put into the fight.

[@proaxel7003]

Maybe they should try letting themselves get stabbed. It worked out pretty well for Trailblazer and Dan Heng 🤣

[@Dello678]

Hyv is trash they only make him weak bcs of sales. The powerscaling is garbage. If there wont be a training arc or good power boost im stopping.

[@walterthomas7540]

Honestly the next dansleif quest sould be focused on Traveler getting some training done, like they straight up go to inazuma and train with Ei hell even ask Arlecchino for some training and tips. Honestly we ejther need to be able to shortly tap into the dormant power or the traveler needs to put in time training

[@porcelainpup]

According to leaks (take with a grain of salt) Dain gets yamcha'd by our sibling

[@Pre4xes_]

@@porcelainpupain’t no way this shit is real

[@raimeino]

apperently dainslief gets beaten to a pulp by the abyss twin and also caribert appears again, so im assuming that we will go again thru abyss twins memories or something similar

[@Pre4xes_]

@@raimeino Holy shit Now I wanna see dude getting beat up so bad

[@tabletennisstars1227]

shonen ahh plot

[@AerinstadasChronicler]

Once again bringing up the fact that Traveler has only won two 1v1 fights: Childe and Signora. Every other major battle had extremely powerful allies. Traveler is strong, but is in the upper range of middle of the road compared to the people of Teyvat.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

i also said this. great minds think alike my friend

[@AerinstadasChronicler]

@DawitsLookingforEmilia Heard it as I typed it. Still wrote it for the people in the back, since it's such a widespread misconception that Traveler is somehow this super-god.

[@AerinstadasChronicler]

@DawitsLookingforEmilia I wrote in a comment in another video that the Traveler basically represents the 'best possible scenario'. Any event he takes part in is already able to be resolved by other characters, but with heavier losses. As stated in the game, the Traveler is a Witness in Teyvat, not a Protagonist.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

why cant the protagonist be a witness

[@AerinstadasChronicler]

@DawitsLookingforEmilia Fair. I suppose that would put Traveler more in the "supporting cast" section. Again, since their presence isn't really needed for Teyvat to flourish. They just tip the scales a little bit further to how they were leaning in the first place. I do stand by the idea that the Traveler isn't the main driving character in Teyvat's current history, though, for the prior mentioned reasons.

[@sageofsixpaths8392]

People forget that the only real win traveller has gotten WITHOUT HELP was against childe and signora. All other fights against gods, the traveller got help or was buffed to the stratosphere

[@manuel-dolmo4974]

Capitano: You were magnificent Traveller! I will never forget you for as long as I live! Traveller: 💀💀💀

[@kotarouinugami1745]

Traveler: Just as long as you live? I'm going to remember you for a few more lives. Then he goes to revive at the nearest teleport waypoint.

[@Eb-sq3jd]

If they do win it'll be another bumass power of friendship plot line I really fucking hate that

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

FAIRY TAIL

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

That's kinda just the way their power works though. Their elemental powers come from the dragons from the looks of things and those mfs are the biggest frauds in the game. The best portion of their power and their greatest feats come from when they rely on the power of others, I feel like that's what the game is building up as the source of their strength, the power of friendship. 😂

[@Eb-sq3jd]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks which is sad asf you know what I hate the most it's the fact that they brag that beat gods for living when in reality they need their asses saved many damn times

[@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn]

The traveler is weakened, you cant expect them to just beat everyone with their powers sealed so it makes sense they need help and outside sources of power. They are also fighting the strongest people in the world at that, not regular vision wielders and people but real gods, archons and beings beyond that. They would be more than a match for most beings if they had their real powers and sword and would only lose to the primordial powers like the heavenly principles and shades who are far beyond anything weve seen in game like the sustainer. I mean their still using a dull blade for crying out loud lol.

[@ame_goblin]

good, keep those hate flowing

[@petermartin6522]

1:57 my brother in Christ the only way we beat raiden and scaradoucheeee is because of the power of friendship, brought to u by both yae and nahida. Otherwise we ded

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

i dont disagree

[@nabilshah9184]

it feels like we beat raiden by unlocking some of our true power through the vision decree wishes. So its kinda like using the power of friendship to unlock prevous powers

[@deathwingthedestroyer3632]

Yet despite that you’re all forgetting that: 1) Scaramouche had more buffs and greater buffs especially given what we know about the Gnoses 2) How little it took for them to close the gap between them and Scaramouche 3) They were fighting Scaramouche by themselves and the Neo-Akasha Terminal doesn’t actually fire those lasers as its sole purpose is to store knowledge.

[@jamesm25144]

God the idea of Capitano helping the traveler would be so badass

[@ProkerKusaka]

There is a possibility that Child will help us to fight against Capitano cuz it is a wish of Ajax to fight with him😅

[@infinityone575]

Dude there is a high probability that not everyharbinger will be friendly to the traveler and playable. Remember Signora ?

[@the_trvlr]

​@@ProkerKusakacould be. Childe is getting stronger too and Mr. Worldwide is just all over the place lol. Now, he's with his master Skirk, he might train with her again

[@GetdonkedOn]

@@infinityone575 of course not all would be friendly but imo Capitano looks "reasonable" enough we'll see in Natlan. Dottore is for sure will not be on our side.

[@ms.pirate]

Maybe he will sacrifice himself. We don't get to see him under his helmet, and I *assuming* his face is too fxcked up to be shown. So I'm not sure if he'll be playable. If he is, then it would be interesting to have a character only wearing a helmet all the time

[@Not_A_Friend0777]

Childe and Neuvi also have massive different in power level yet Childe manage to scratch Neuvi's face in a surprise attack. While Traveler in a fair duel with a help of 3 vision holder did nothing against the 4th harbinger.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

tbf those 3 vision holders are like an introvert, and two magicians. childe a born and bred fighter

[@Not_A_Friend0777]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Still Childe only learn how to fight when he is 14 and become a harbinger around 16 years old. While traveler have hundred or even thousand of experience in combat. It's just the way they portrayed the traveler in current cutscene is so disappointing.

[@erdenesaikhanamgalanhyiag8351]

@@Not_A_Friend0777 I think it is because abyssal power is extra dangerous to elemental life forms

[@Mirenchan]

it is because childe uses abyssal power

[@thedaveed1]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia That and Neuvillette didn't have all his powers at that point either.

[@RedAstrals]

"NAH I'D WIN" -TRAVELER

[@DainajaxXD]

I don't think the traveler is truly hopeless that he can't achieve anything, I just think that he has a lot of training, and especially right now, even childe is stronger than him now

[@SighX19]

I just don’t see how be traveler is gonna defeat celestia if traveler can’t even defeat the knave 💀💀💀

[@Rabu072]

I think Capitano might take a liking to us, colombina might not.. Or the other way around, idk

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

i also think that. capitano feels like a "ive got no problem with you, youve got a problem with me" kinda guy. unless ur a god evidently. Columbina X Factor. we know nothing about her

[@dinte215]

Why do people think capitano is good. It that fatui harbinger video thingy he condemns Signora for been immoral and then looks over to Dottore (scumbag of scumbags, mahito reincarnate) and asks casually asks him about how his experiments are going and the guy is obsessed with mutilating and transfiguring people (especially children) That to me screams hypocrite and pretentiousness. He hides his true ugly self behind that mask and cape. He is said to be humble yet people always see him show his insane strength publicly and flashily. That screams a liar of historic proportions

[@5255andrew]

I think they’re setting up the story for Capitano to challenge the pyro archon for the archon title and/or bring the gnosis back to the tsaritsa.

[@5255andrew]

@_gqt exactly that’s what I’m saying 😂

[@scoobydoo1518]

Scara the 6th harbinger turbed out to be a test subject for the 2nd?. Enough to give the chills for dottore boss fight

[@AyumuTheTamer]

Arlecchino is actually kind… otherwise she would have not cared what happened to her best friend, would not allow Dottore to experiment on the Orphans or (spoiler warning) allow the orphans that wanted out of the Fatui to live normal lives (albeit with their memories wiped). All because Traveler has access to 5 elements for now, they are not powerful at all, just unique and able to purify a few things. They still do struggle with a lot of opponents since more that half of the time they beat their opponents by the assistance of someone (Venti, Nahida , Yae Miko and the people of Inazuma, the Adepti that serve under Zhongli, Shenhe, Neuvillete among many others). Even gameplay wise, would anyone go for Traveler or for another 5 star? I do have traveler on my team half of the time but that’s because I want to play as them, realistically it’s a struggle to use them outside of Dendro…

[@BlairAnsor]

I think the only enemy of note they have fought with no assistance is Childe

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

and signora

[@internetjerk2839]

Canonically speaking Traveler is powerful remember we switch between characters for game play but as far as story is concerned Traveler solos every fight asides from the ones where we have another character traveling with us for story

[@aloneinthelight7754]

The reason why Arlerchino won against the traveler is very simple: they need to sell her banner. In a Archon Quest Fatui has no chance to defeat the traveller.

[@daffafatih8669]

Bro clearly didn’t pay attention to the story fr😂

[@megumin6548]

I took him shaking in arlecchino's fight as him seeing the crimson moon, which reminded him of khanria that shocked him so he forgot to use his elements type of deal. He wasn't expecting to be reminded of THAT moon, that nation by her and it caught him off guard so he slipped up and lost.

[@truedarkknight0882]

5:45 didn’t they only get scared because of the crimson moon? They weren’t afraid before and were in shock upon seeing it.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

i mean when alrecchino gap closed at light speed, you can see them shaking

[@truedarkknight0882]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yeah I know they were probably scared to death too. But the crimson moon always means danger and stuff and they seemed afraid. But I think both reasons are true

[@Nataninko]

I don't play genshin anymore yet it is sad that the traveler didn't use their elements againts Arleechino AND THEN lost to her so no one would think that had they used these elements they would've beaten Arleechino Regardless unless the traveler gets a huge power up pre Natlan... yeah the traveler is nuked.

[@lordbroccoli3987]

hear me out we defeated Devlin with help we didn't defeat andrius ghost we defeat childe because he got tired of foul legacy we defeated that mf three-headed snake with shenhe help raiden killed Signora we defeated ei with yae's help ei defeated raiden(puppet) we died to scara 168 times and nahida helped us to defeat him that whale? neuvillette and childe helped and arlecchino? we just got humbled nah traveler is just a punching bag at this point. (sorry because of grammar)

[@vietcuongnguyenle8530]

Childe retreat because he can’t keep fighting so that still is we win by ourself We defeat signora. Raiden only kill signora because we not do that and signora try to broke the rule of the battle so that still is we defeat signora by ourself

[@kotarouinugami1745]

I don't think Childe got tired of Foul Legacy Transformation. I mean, he fought the Narwhal in his Foul Legacy form for weeks, yet we defeated him in minutes. I don't think he had an opportunity to get *that* much better at using Foul Legacy.

[@vietcuongnguyenle8530]

@@kotarouinugami1745 that is after he trained in a long time to reduce the negative effect for using foul legacy

[@keneunaegbu851]

​@@kotarouinugami1745With the help of full power Neuvilette, who is said to be Archon level if not higher...

[@kotarouinugami1745]

@@keneunaegbu851 I do not mean we defeated Narwhal in minutes, although we did. I mean we defeated Childe in Foul Legacy mode in minutes.

[@TheJH1015]

another reason why Traveler lost is probably because the Crimson Moon visuals Arlecchino showed caused a trauma flashback to the Cataclysm. Remember that there was a Crimson Moon when the Cataclyms was happening. Recalling that event and thinking Arlecchino could be behind at least part of that entire event must have been insanely fear-inducing as well.

[@adamtruong1759]

I'm willing to say that the Traveler probably didn't go in that fight with Arlechinno with the intent to kill, and probably held back to a certain degree. But I wouldn't go as far to say that would've made a significant difference. As for Natlan, I wonder if the Traveler will work towards a training arc, or employ a less direct approach to reach the top. It's hard to say... Maybe Dain will provide some insight.

[@jamesbrown6994]

What if capitano or somebody else from natlan trained him

[@nothingbutsomeone3934]

I think traveler got a lil too cocky thinking they could rival Arlecchino.. "Fighring gods? I' ve got a resume" yeah but all the times you did you got MASSIVE help from others, be it in Liyue with ALL the adepti and all and being with Zhongli against Azhdaha (and 2.4.. blud got demolished by Beisht' s normal attack😭), Inazuma with the will of everyone (traveler didn't even fight the puppet in Raiden act 2, it was Raiden herself!! We just witnessed it) and Sumeru we literally had to fight Scara 168 times to have a chance at beating him WITH NAHIDA' S HELP. The only one were we kinda fought was againt Apep' s guardian thingy, and even then Nahida was with us. And finally Fontaine, where Neuvillette was with us against the whale Arlecchino was the first fight where the traveler was by THEMSELVES I think what makes traveler ultimately stronger than everyone is the fact they can resonate with everyone' s power so well for some reason, which might be what makes the traveler win at the end, they' re a catalyst of some sort As to WHY they are... hopefully it' s an actual good reason and not "plot armor" cuz honestly I rlly dislike the traveler as a character and how they' re portrayed

[@kofabillion]

I agree but you also forgot that we were also able to fight childe and Signora solo.

[@nothingbutsomeone3934]

@@kofabillion Yeah but they aren't gods or power rivaling them

[@XenoGenerator]

​​​@@nothingbutsomeone3934At the time, what you said would be valid. Heck, it's still valid regarding La Signora. But with Childe? It no longer applies. Need I remind you that he stalemated the Narwhal for who knows how long while in his Foul Legacy form? That alone puts him above the Traveler, who needed a piece of Neuvillette's Authority to be of use when they fought it. Granted, it's only when he is using the Foul Legacy, but it's clear that, compared to the fight in the Golden House, Childe has surpassed the Traveler at this point

[@nothingbutsomeone3934]

@@XenoGenerator yeah he definitely got stronger, I mean even in his story quest he was stronger than when we fought him, but still, we fought him when he was weaker, not now, so the point still stands that Traveler fought weaker opponents solo Would be cool to see how much stronger Tartaglia got through another battle with the traveler compared to before

[@massimilianoreali4398]

​@@nothingbutsomeone3934the traveller is actually on the level of gods the problem is that the top 3 harbinger have the power to rival a true archon in a 1vs1 and arle is the closest to be almost on archon level

[@crimsonrain2705]

i think this is a good point that being a descender doesn't guarantee being strong... a will that rivals the world could very well mean that he holds the power to change the world and that exactly is what is happening every time traveller ends up in a nation - change.

[@yep1486]

and make friends along the way who will solve all your problems ;3

[@kotarouinugami1745]

@@yep1486 At least the Traveler is not as bad as Venti when it comes to making others do things for them.

[@captaindanger13]

1:57 btw there are very thin strings keeping traveler still here in this scene. that is why traveler couldn't move. I originally thought he was staying still cuz he was petrified or something, but then after rewatching the scene from other people's playthroughs, I noticed the strings holding him down. they're hard to see tho since you can simply blink and you'll miss them.

[@bubs3674]

they mention this later to 5:11 !!

[@captaindanger13]

@@bubs3674 dang this is the 2nd time I missed something in the video. Lmao

[@weeblordgaming6062]

Traveler at this point should be strong enough to make magic strings, bad writing hoyo just makes the traveler look like a clown to advertise more 5 star characters

[@_black_bird]

We'd get clapped by Columbina, Capitano and the Tsaritsa, not to mention the Heavenly Principles and whatever Celestia has in store. But this feels like a setup for a training arc which might as well be what a good chunk of what Natlan's archon quest might be, after all, we don't really know much of what the plot for Natlan will be about, we haven't gotten anything teased by NPCs like we got for the regions before they got released and the travail trailer also doesn't give much with which to work with, but well, just a couple of months to find out.

[@fierytigergaming8112]

You mean with the rumours of the Pyro Archon already being deceased?

[@suzumiya_19]

(Anemo) Freedom: Independence (Geo) Contract: Commitment (Electro) Eternity: Loyalty (Dendro) Knowledge: Mastery (Hydro) Justice: Law and Order (Pyro) War: Strength and Power (Cryo) Love: Compassion/Kindness The Seven Elemental disciplines that the traveler needs to become The New Heavenly Principles

[@Niyuki.]

This "fight" wasn't ridiculous because the Traveler lost against the Knave. It was pathetic because he didn't do anything other than dragging around that Dull Blade, spamming pointless physical attacks around and not using ANY of his elemental powers in any way. There was no fight there. Just a cheap and lifeless advertisement for Arlecchino and for that they sure loved to make the Traveler an absolute clown. Stopped playing months ago and I tell ya, they are working hard to keep me away. No... Perhaps they just aren't working after all.

[@Testaccount_98765]

Alright this might be a CBT2 voiceline and all, but hear me out. In the Closed Beta testing 2, Venti had a voiceline about Murata (pyro archon) and how she gave her power to us, (I have no idea how, maybe through the gnosis?) So if we have the power of the God of War, and our own combined, wouldn't that make us as strong as a God? For the people who want to know what the voiceline says: "That Brawler, i can't believe she gave all her power to you, wow wow wow wow, YOU have to protect ME"

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

venti also has a line about focalors that makes no sense with the current lore so its like 50/50. but dain did say the pyro archon would share a secret with the traveler so ya never know

[@gabrielmarpaung3551]

Bro, it comes to my mind, what if at the end of Natlan AQ, Capitano recognized the traveler's cability, then promised to train the traveler and give the traveler the title of the tenth of the eleven harbingers, that's also would be a free ticket to get to snezhnaya. But yeah, we might be just doomed there

[@Pheynex]

Why would be be weaker than some ash?

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

bruh

[@Pheynex]

I know, I roasted La Signora... Literally.

[@dirtyrat886]

0:25 I bet 5 mora that Hoyo is going pull the “plot twist” that the pyro archon and Natlan “aren’t actually like that” and are “misunderstood”.

[@Ren_rz]

Imagine hoyo made the traveller lose here on purpose just throw him on the brink of death in Natlan just for him to enter the Avatar State (because he's missing fire from the 4) Anoth t thing that i don't think i have seen anyone talk about is the fact that like yeah he was freaked out by Arlacheno but it wasn't completely 100% because it was Arlacheno but he freaks out the moment he saw The Crimson Moon behind her and he actually recognised it instantly, what it was and by his reaction I'd say he knows how terrifying the Crumson Moon is

[@Zero60133]

At this point, it seems Traveler will just get carried by 5* characters to endgame, power of friendship style. While having no more feats to themselves.

[@josephdeffen6989]

I keep thinking something will go down and we get the pyro gnosis. That will give more power and a way for us to get into Snezhnaya without getting thrown in the slammer since we’ve fought the fatui so much on our journey. It would also give us a chance to have an audience with the tsaritsa since she’s collecting gnoses like dragon balls.

[@maximiser2183]

I think it's just traveler going easy since there were civilian NPCs in the way as you can see the background, i think there will another fight knave and about the fear thing i think it was just throwback to intro where crimson swallowed the twin while fighting with heavenly principle

[@bubs3674]

mkay im not much of a lorehead (im always trying to know more) but what if WHAT IF... hear me out on this because of the presence of like a moon, traveler themselves couldn't use their element. traveler also couldnt use their elements against ei (whereas there was also a moon present) (and for arle, the curse of the moon entirely) im probably wrong but this is just a crack theory i thought of. great video as always chief 🫡

[@hatedxsoul.]

I honestly think the traveler knew that “father” wasn’t going to kill any of them. Since he saw AND commented on the Scarface newspaper boy looking familiar. I also think he wanted to keep his cards close in case he ever had to fight her seriously. Why show her that he can use any of the 5 elements in what is practically a sparring match

[@bubs3674]

​@hatedxsoul. i can see where youre coming from. she clearly wasn't trying all that much but the point still stands. bro has not caught up to the meta yet and is still trying to prove physical is viable. with a dull blade no less

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

I think it was a bit more then a sparring match. keep in mind in the final scene, the traveler threw himself between arlecchino and the two people who were supposed to be "executed" so as to defend them.

[@kish4corheunbl]

Still can't get over the fact that Alrlecchino had to her fancy powers against a dull sword traveler lmao. I can't think of any reason other than hyv tryna say that the traveler is pretty strong that Arle had to unleash such power against him, but then again it didn't even look like the traveler was going all out lol. I think they just rly fkd up with this fight.

[@herpderp5727]

Yeah, I'm fine with Traveler losing against Arlecchino, it's the fact that he didn't use any of his elemental powers against her. Imagine him using Wake of Earth to try and tag Arlecchino with earth spikes, only for her to counter and overpower it with her Bloodtide Banquet. Imagine Traveler using Surgent Manifestion to, either in conjunction with Lyney's Pyro or attempting to use Arlecchino's own flames against her, create an explosion or Gust Surge in conjunction with any of the siblings' elements, only for Arlecchino to tank it like nothing. Or use Bellowing Thunder to amp up their attacks and break free from Arlecchino's spikes, only for Arlecchino to easily bat them aside with her strength and skill and terrify the Traveler with her "Genjutsu" 😂. I'll admit I don't play Genshin impact (despite having it lol, I just finished the mission with Dvalin), so I'm not familiar with all the nuances of Genshin's power system and mechanics, but I think having the Traveler showcase all of their power and still have Arlecchino defeat them with the same level of ease she did, would cement the number 4 as a veritable threat, one whom the Traveler, even with all their bag of tricks stood no chance against.

[@arav13]

I don't think pyro archon would hate us. Didn't the trailer say "she is waiting to share a secret with the traveller" or something

[@DanielSouthards]

I think the traveler would’ve stood a better chance, had they not been shocked to their core about seeing the crimson moon

[@johnnyjoestar1249]

They’re gonna be even more shocked when capitano flexes his muscles infront of him

[@DanielSouthards]

@@johnnyjoestar1249 capitano is most likely an inflated bragger, but I get the sense he might help us

[@anonymouscommenter2425]

Could have at least thrown some lightning in when they dashed in front of the children

[@SmallOneEyedKing]

From the moment I saw Arlecchino in the Trailer 4.0, I was terrified her presentation of how to act and snapping her fingers, leaving a crimson stare at you for a brief moment is terrifying.

[@Truck-kun11]

The Traveler has always acted as a catalyst capable of bringing together the power of many into one. - In Liyue with the power of the Adept - In Inazuma with the Visions - In Sumeru with the Akasha. On each occasion they were fighting someone close to or as strong as a God, so I don't doubt something similar will happen in Natlan.

[@nullspace9927]

You're forgetting the most important thing. The Traveler's ambition is too weak. No reason to get stronger. This is mostly due to his/her relationship with the sibling.

[@dshearwf]

It's high time for the Traveler training arc. Lil bro got spoiled getting carried all the way.

[@Tracydaviesmesf]

TLR/HLD the 0TH Fatui Harbinger:I'm back from the Backrooms *he's stronger than Godzilla And Hell and Composite Godzilla combined*

[@dododanny77]

Sometimes i wonder why traveler is the one deemed as legendary and savior of nations by everyone when the other characters were the ones carrying 💀. Qixing and shenhe carry in liyue, kazuha saved traveler(he wouldve died if kazuha didnt react + power of friendship ahh cutscene[goes hard tho]), sumeru carried by nahida doing a Tsukuyomi on scara, neuvillette and childe carried against the whale, forgot monstadt's story His powers are sealed i get it but bro if you think about it. Hes a literal star. Hes probably older than teyvat itself youre telling me hes not saitama level in physical strength or whatever

[@KingMufasa_8]

I mean, you're also not giving them any credit. Shenhe stepped up to repay the kindness traveler showed her, kazuha was only there in the first place because of trav. We were literally the only ones who could see nahida and we saved her, we spearheaded the plan against furina and was essential for the plan for nuev to regain his power and fight against the whale.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

he might not be the strongest, but we gotta admit. wherever he/she goes, problems get fixed, its not a coincidence.

[@yep1486]

I am guessing Traveler is less this "big strong wo/man showing up to solve all problems" and more the reason those type of people shows up to help

[@dododanny77]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia true, i think the best showing of this was sumeru with him freeing nahida after being trapped for 500 years (still my favourite arc/region especially since every character introduced had a major role)

[@deathwingthedestroyer3632]

@@KingMufasa_8 Plus if it weren’t for the Traveler not only will Kazuha and his squad will get fried, Kazuha wouldn’t have been able to briefly resonate with his friend’s vision.

[@Pat005pro]

Perhaps since Natlan is a nation of war and constant battles, maybe we get some sort of an Avatar (the last Airbender, not blue people) treatment, by which I mean we unlock pyro and someone from Natlan sees us trying to figure it out (but maybe even fail, setting something on fire) and decide to help and train us also pointing out how element using is our advantage. And since we're probably going to need to fight a lot (unlike pretty much every other region where we're all willy nilly just adventuring and hangin out with friends) so maybe then we figure out how to be stronger.

[@hello_idk0]

In my opinion it is very clear that hoyo is needing the traveller just for the 5 stars to shine Also the traveller also isn't using the sword of narsizenkruiz

[@Gamfluent]

Honestly seeing him lose to arlecchino is so weird, he was winning against everyone until he gets genjutsud which is so weird as the ones left to fight are essentially Fatui gods and the actual Tsaritsa, not to mention the fact the traveler didn’t utilize any Element of his is weird

[@petermartin6522]

4:46 this is some demon slayer sh*t bc, remember when rank 4 akaza shows up. It was the sukuna of that time(well he aint nearly powerful as sukuna). I think natlan might be our training arc

[@fierytigergaming8112]

Lol, a nice touch would be if we ended up temporarily regaining the power of "Reason" (The power Traveller used at the beiginning, before being separated from their sibling) while fighting Capitano

[@chesedp2o23]

The traveler didn’t assist against the whale when Childe and Neuvillette were putting up numbers and only starting scrapping when Neuvillette gave them protection when he had his authority #nooticing 🤔

[@DainajaxXD]

Tartaglia 🗿🙏🏼❤

[@deathwingthedestroyer3632]

Neuvillette didn’t give them protection, he gave them a portion of his power.

[@Ersterde]

i sincerely believe the traveler did not fear arlecchino, it felt more like ptsd to the crimson moon to me. they already fearlessly confronted stronger beings too

[@Novacore9811]

I'd like to point out in the interlude trailer it is stated that the Pyro Archon will share thier "gift" with us Which could mean the Gnosis or their Authority. But we know tha she will give us her gift- which sounds like a power boost to me

[@elmamaco7303]

Well, since so far, the strongest that we have seen from the traveler was them fighting against Scara and Raiden (which were both only possible due to the power of people), the traveler might stand a miniscule chance if they can get the support of the people again. Since genshin is based on gnosticism, which talks about the power of humanity, I think the traveler can get strong enough if they get the willpower of as many people as possible. Basically, the traveler ain't shit without the power of friendship

[@Shadowenclave47]

The traveler is going to job like he/she always does. Nothing new. They exist only to make the limited 5* characters that Hoyo wants to sell to you look cooler. Can't wait to see them struggle and job to random nameless thugs/treasure hoarders in Natlan and needs to be rescued by Iansan. Capitano, Dottore and Columbina will finger flick the traveler away and the Abyss twin and/or Unknown God will blink them out of existence Jiren style at this rate lmao.

[@DoggieBoi]

Bro actually understood rather than trashing traveller like it was his/her fault.

[@-_-neno-_-1111]

One thing is sure, if traveller doesn't know how to tank mental attacks like with arlechino, then in natlan, traveller better hope he/she have practiced their negotiation skills instead. The fatui are sending the higher ranked guys to make sure traveller doesn't get a title in each nation that easily.

[@someoneinasia]

at this point, we should realise hoyo just doesn't care about traveler. or genshin in general. since 4.0, traveler never even shown to use hydro in any cutscene.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

lmfao

[@KingMufasa_8]

And you don't think they're doing it on purpose? They literally made the hydro traveler, them not using it in a cutscene serves a purpose. Saying they don't care when they put so much effort into the lore of the game is just weak reasoning

[@someoneinasia]

glad to see some people still have hope for genshin. so what's the purpose of not showing traveler using hydro or even multiple elements?

[@babyjiren9676]

@@KingMufasa_8 Bro they don't care, you're high on copium. I've literally never seen a fanbase of a gacha game treated as poorly as the Genshin fanbase yet you refuse to accept it. Star Rail gets 30 anniversary pulls and a free 5-star, on top of 10 pulls each patch. You Genshin ccks get 3 pulls total as a "gift for supporting the game for 3 years" 😂😂 Like, don't you actually feel emasculated by this? And then MC is just a soulless plot device that gets shafted over and over again while Kiana and Trailblazer are beloved, have personality and cool story moments.

[@KingMufasa_8]

@@babyjiren9676 i like how you didn't say anything that actually matters lol. I don't play genshin or any gacha for the rewards, i literally couldn't care less about that. As long as i get what i want from a game i'm satisfied. Does that bother you?

[@ankitjadhav6775]

Well, in the Teyvat Chapter Dainslief Did say a Disturbing line abt god of war telling them truth or smth that might also lead to Their character 'Growth' Maybe we will get our Weapon back or power in Natlan

[@StoickTheTired]

As a person who's up on the leaks, the Traveler is fine. We know the Fatui don't want to make an actual enemy of the Traveler

[@sageofsixpaths8392]

I don't think the game is overhyping arlecchino but rather putting emphasis on her powers, the crimson moon, showing that powers relating to khaneriah might be the travellers weakness

[@abyssal_phoenix]

Either Columbina dies, magically joins the traveler and then dies or she pulls a mothra and gives the traveler a damage boost, and then dies Or she lives. Idk she just gives me some feeling like she's the mothra from the genshin world. If she would become playable it wouldn't surprise that she'd be an A++ tier support character

[@kylegadson7434]

Maybe natlan is where the traveler goes on a training arc and a domain or anti domain technique I can't be the only one who thought that

[@AdrasAdraki]

Maybe the traveler should start doing the elemental thing that only really they can do.

[@lnsflare1]

It should be noted that the Traveler is super vulnerable to any sort of mental effect, usually being dropped instantly or frozen in plane for extended periods of time whenever they encounter them, and Arlecchino's Crimson Moon Domain Expansion might count as a mental attack. Hopefully, they will get some of that godly residence to such things that Dottore mentioned. What, don't forget that the Traveler canonically gets stronger each time they resonate with a new Element.

[@beng4ll967]

I remember audibly laughing when Aether began talking shit in front of Furina. Like bro your "resume" is you getting either dogpiled or hard carried, what you mean I got a resume? Bro was real lucky Furina’s a bitch. I’m guessing he wouldn’t be talking that kind of shit it Raiden was the one suggesting a duel

[@Ghosta_]

Actually they are stronger than gods Said by Nahida herself

[@beng4ll967]

@@Ghosta_ Nahida is a certified Fraudveler glazer. Statements like that don’t mean ish when she never even met another archon

[@deathwingthedestroyer3632]

Wdym hard carried? They’re ones who did most the work.

[@Tarotko]

Thank you for talking about this!, Because after seeing the Cutscene with Arlecchino my first thought was "how the Hell is the Traveler gonna survive if the opponents are gonna get stronger" I personally think Mihoyo will chose inazuma plot armor(power of friendship), because we only have basically 4 more patchs till 5.0 and supposedly that will be natlen, And at this point The Traveler needs some kinda of training arc

[@Tarotko]

Then again About the multi Elements it has to become a playable feature sooner or later because if it can happen in Cutscenes then it has to be playable in game.

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

we still should have one dain quest before natlan. and given this is the longest weve gone without a dain quest, it could be the biggest one yet

[@Tarotko]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia at this point I'll take, we get a power up during the dain quest, Cause we're gonna need it, but The problem is, what if we don't get that power up?, Then how is the Traveler gonna fight in natlen?, Cause as much as I want to believe Traveler will get that power up, I partly believe Mihoyo won't give the travler it

[@higaiwokeru]

The power progression of the traveller is so weird Allegedly, you get stronger the more elements you unlock but it doesn’t feel like we are getting stronger in terms of the lore because we either only fight pushovers like treasure hoarders or are somehow able to best Scaromouche and Tartaglia

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

hmm. wonder if thats why the sibiling turned to the abyss. more power to do what they need

[@higaiwokeru]

@@DawitsLookingforEmilia it does make sense, the gods destroyed Khanriah prob bc they had the power to rival the Heavenly Principles wouldn’t be surprised if delusions are made from technology from Khanriah

[@dinte215]

​@@higaiwokerukhanreah unleashed cataclysm with its experiments on abyssal energy and it was the abyss creatures and the energy spouting from it that annihilated their nation. They fled from khanreah to lands of the archons, the gods, some khanreans and celestia dealt with the abyss rift (this is where it is hinted in sumeru that the sustainer of heavenly principles was contaminated by the abyss and has never been seen since). After this celestia punished khanreans to eternity, the curse turned impure blood khanreans into hilis while pure ones stayed relatively the same just immortal. The curse causes them pain as they slowly erode and lose a sense of self hence punishing them. Celestia did not destroy khanreah they did it themselves. For proof, go to the sumeru underground region beneath rift that leads to khanreahs gates. Collect all the shining papers and read them, they are daily logs of the abyssal experiments and the aftermath of the disaster(people mutating, monsters everywhere, envoys being sent to request from the gods etc)

[@dinte215]

Honestly i dont blame people from being completely lost on the history of teyvat, its hidden in scrolls tou find under rocks, chest and on top of high ceiling shelves.

[@massimilianoreali4398]

at least thanks to lynguan and chenyu vale we have a better perspective on the power of the traveller

[@Stro2101]

I guess that the traveler will get his original sword that will grant him a real huge boost in power or for some random duexmachina the traveler gains his original power temporarily, then we are screwed.

[@LunaeOverMoon__]

I bet the traveler is gaining a power up either in Dainsleif quest or at some point in the Natlan quest

[@fffwii9531]

the reason why traveler lost was because he wasnt planning on going all out. he knew the knave wouldnt harm her children but to ensure their safety he did what the knave told him to: to intervene( do what you think is the best). that doesnt mean he has to go all out because he knows knave isnt actually evil. i mean cmon how would anyone want to hit her right after hearing her sob story right?

[@josesoldevilla3092]

the duel between arlecchino and traveler is one of the most Disappointing thing I've ever saw Travelers character development is not developing they should've atleast tried Arlecchino to get hurt or injured in the fight to see that the Mc is really commendable but instead we got a punching bag MC didn't even utilize to use the elemental power he absorbed and used it on the same time

[@Mr.Devourer]

i thought atleast we will see some development in traveller but it just made me disappointed well i think it was to showcase the banner character arlecino's feats

[@inosuketheboar9747]

Keep in mind the Travelers best feat alone is defeating Signora. And from Childe and Scaramouche’s voicelines, they see she’s immensely powerful

[@weeblordgaming6062]

@@inosuketheboar9747we have gained 2 more elements since beating signora, so we should be very powerful

[@Nihilore]

if the traveler had gone all out and still lost it would have been far more impactful

[@Ksquad-l4c]

The only way traveler gonna survive Natlan is if they he gets some sort of power boost like a training arc to fight better. Or maybe somehowhe gets some of their original powers back. Otherwise traveler is cooked and he just gonna get lots of plot armor😭

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

THE POWER OF PLOT !!

[@Asm0sday]

Sorry but you cannot train to fight better,what Traveler actually need is power,Traveler can already fight better, seeing how we dodge Arlecchino attack and most importantly raiden and with more power we was able to dodge a lot more raiden attack lore wise.

[@Ksquad-l4c]

@@Asm0sday true true

[@fierytigergaming8112]

@@Asm0sday You mean being able to use his/her old power to an extent? (Not completely, otherwise they'll be overpowered in the battle with the Tsaritsa) - Would make sense, if Traveller learned the truth about the Heavenly Principles and the fact that as well as averting the prophecy (They only saw that much in Furina's memories)... Focalors' sacrifice was to defy the Heavenly Principles

[@pikastudios2850]

I think the traveler was afraid of the crimson moon which led to arllechino getting the jump on him, not that the traveler could have defeated her anyways.

[@playerunknown1828]

In the fight against arlechino if you using lumin you see lumin hand is turning like stone or hilichurl but if you using aether you can see that because aether wearing gloves

[@theallmightycabbage]

don't forget about the pyro sovereign Xbalanque, maybe he'll help us out

[@DawitsLookingforEmilia]

dont think hes the sovereign, at least not from the pronouns he used