Is the Ugreen NAS the Ultimate Homelab Product?

[@dave1790]

Ugreen must've sent these out to every KZbinr out there

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

It's a new market space for Ugreen, so I understand their desire to get feedback, as well as get the word out that they are now in the NAS space.

[@dave1790]

@@AwesomeOpenSource it looks cool alright.... and I am tempted especially if they confirm properly that you are allowed to install other OS's without voiding the warranty. Last time I checked it was a bit vague

[@Link-channel]

The software quality seems ok

[@Felix-ve9hs]

It's probably a lot cheaper to send out a few thousand dollars worth of hardware they made than to pay hundreds of thousands to run ads.

[@Link-channel]

@@Felix-ve9hs i don't see the problem if the product is good and it's not unfair behaviour or some form of evil marketing

[@GeoffHalsey]

For an off the shelf NAS, looks good on spec, build quality and importantly, price too. Still got to factor in the hard drives on top that price, which is no small amount, but UGreen has done a reasonable job on this initial effort. Would I buy one? I've a good setup with dirt cheap ex-enterprise gear, but if I was less of a Linux nerd and had deeper pockets, probably would.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Great insight. I agree, it's a nice entry into the market, and the drives aren't a negligible expense, but if there are people like me with a bunch of older drives lying around, then it could be worth it to start putting those to use.

[@xellaz]

Dang... that's a pretty slow transfer speeds and those files aren't even that big. I hope they improve on this before I get mine. They also need to give the option to enable editing the MTU for the 10GbE connection. The GUI looks good though but definitely needs a lot of polishing.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

I agree, but so far the update seems to have addressed a lot of the initial issues. As for the transfer, that could be an effect of my network (though I don't think so), I did not setup a cache, so that could help, but not sure how to do it in their softwrae, and potentially increasing RAM, as well as using a different RAID type.

[@keyboard_g]

I would wipe the OS and install TruNas. Don’t want to wait the years for theirs to mature and the backdoors to be found. Glad to have competition in the space.

[@Kevin-oj2uo]

I will do the same. Truenas Scale is great.

[@trumptrump6019]

I did, it works well, only the led works abnormal.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Definitely an option.

[@tankspl7]

Things, I would have liked to have seen in the review. Installation of TrueNAS Scale, the only examples I have seen so far seem to be pretty convoluted with BIOS settings. Can the two SSD slots (which you skipped on the hardware overview) also be used as storage by TrueNAS for fast access with OS installation on the original OS drive. Details on the exact type of memory that is compatible if one wished to expand it to 64GB.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

First, thanks for the advice on items to include in future videos. My goal was to show what the product can do "off the shelf", and it was already quite long. I may do a follow up where I show upgrading hardware, changing OS, etc, but wanted people to see how to use what you get out of the box.

[@l0gic23]

​@@AwesomeOpenSource I think that's a great approach. Can't wait to watch more in the series... Hint hint 😅 thanks for considering. If you do, be sure to link between the videos and maybe add it a playlist to help future viewers looking up the product find your series...

[@musicalplankton]

Very interested to see what comes of ugreen with this unit when its out of the kickstarter.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Indeed. I hope it's a hit. I love to have more competition in this space.

[@Chuck.S.]

Been following UGREEN since they started development. You donated at least 5 bucks ...the usual crowd funded project. I do have to say that they have been very proactive to feedback and community ideas.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Thanks for that! I agree, they have been really terrific to make updates. All the oddities I notice during initial setup were addressed with the update i ran later in the video.

[@dslynx]

RAID 5 with 4TB drives is a horrible idea! With 4 drives, RAID 10 would be the only safe bet (not to mention it'll have way better performance, if the controller can handle the bandwidth). If this device is really in use with a lot of data on the drives, the chances of the other 3 drives surviving a rebuild of 4TB of data is too big of a risk. Specially if the 4 drives installed were manufactured at the same time, during the same process. The one drive failed for a reason, chances are the other 3 are right behind.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Great points for sure. I think any RAID is better than none at all though.

[@tarad0nbr4n9]

Hardware specs looks great compared to the popular NAS out there.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

It runs really well. I'm pretty impressed with it, and seriously, the trays for adding drives...a s troke of genius in how easy they made it.

[@greob]

Looking promising, thanks for the preview!

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

You bet!

[@Rick.Fleischer]

Watch your mike position/volume settings. Please.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Yep, always trying to make adjustments. I have bad eyes, so it's a bit tricky sometimes, but I'm constantly working to make it better.

[@Crazy--Clown]

Lets face it.. Synology is the leader when it comes to NAS's and the reason is because of regular updates & great apps... My advice to Ugreen is keep the regular updates flowing and don't be slack once your boxes are sold. Lets come back here in 2 years time and see the status of Ugreen NAS's.... Gee there's bugger all Apps...

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Synology is ok. I'd say TrueNAS, Unraid, and QNap are also in the top running spots. But, yes, it would be nice to see Ugreen continue this OS and really build it out as time continues.

[@CraigMcIntosh]

Looked at this, but since the kickstarter did not include the United kingdom, plus they have no track record in NAS market, and they originally said you could only use their OS, I went and bought an Asustor Lockstore 4 Gen 2 which is pure awesome.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Yeah, it's tough when they are regiononally locked, and it's a gamble, but having used it for a bit, it's not bad.

[@fcamarota]

Interesante productos lo nuevo de Ugreen. Para cuando deseen promocionarlo en el mercado hispano latino aquí estaré dispuesto a recibir una unidad para su análisis y promoción. Gracias por fomentar Open Source Codes

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Preguntaré y te contaré lo que averigüe

[@MattVickers]

One thing these smaller companies aren't doing well is improving their packaging. So much unnecessary plastic! I've picked up some refurb Dell equipment and noticed a lot more thought has been put into the environmental impacts.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Not something I really thought about. There was a bit of plastic in it for bags, but some felt more like a foam type material. The rest was all cardboard, so recycle-able at least.

[@Rockwolf50]

There is no way I would trust my data to some untested software. Hardware looks decent. Would probably throw Proxmox on it.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Understandable. Only time will tell I suppose.

[@l0gic23]

Can you post a roundup of hardware you dislike? There is value in that as well.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

That would be tricky, as I tend not to use hardware I dislike. I'm a massive believer in researching something before buying it. As for hardware I have tested for a review...so far nothing has been bad. It's just a stance I've decided to take should I get something I really don't like or see value in.

[@l0gic23]

@@AwesomeOpenSource cool thanks for the clarification.

[@ahmadbinali4668]

Its my pleasure to be your subscriber

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Thank you so much.

[@balfit]

'I will talk to you next time...' -- finally, someone telling the truth. As opposed to 'I will see you next time...', which I do not think ever happened on any channel I am subscribed to. On a more serious note, thanks for this nice review Brian!

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

My pleasure!

[@SB-qm5wg]

Pretty good. 👍

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

[@nerkymusselman8843]

if one wants to simply play tv shows & movies via plex, is there any reason to get the plus version of the 4 bay instead of the non-plus of the 4 bay? thanks for your reviews!

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

I think the 4800 would do just fine. It's just a difference in CPU and RAM Max....4800 is N100 (which is find for streaming media), and 16 G Max ram, which should also do just fine.

[@movalli9269]

For me it is ZFS all the way and anything else is just pance.

[@wagmi_dude]

Exactly, even on my nases without ecc memory

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

ZFS is awesome for sure!

[@Link-channel]

​@@AwesomeOpenSource do a tutorial on how to set it up on Linux 🙂 I still haven't done it and I don't know how it works yet

[@rogerc7960]

Users will probably add it to their router, thus accidentally creating a webserver.

[@wagmi_dude]

Most don't have public IP so no worries 😂

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

I connected it to my router, but all my IPs from the router are internal (private IPs) only, sono direct access to it from the web. TrueNAS, Proxmox, and all the rest have web interfaces for management. It's a norm in the NAS space.

[@abdraoufx]

Almost a clone of Synology, which is a good thing. But ugreen seems a company from the products i bought before

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

They are branching out, and trying to make entry into this market. I think it's great to get more options for sure.

[@rufusmurphy9990]

This is not a Homelab product, it is a Home Networking product. Maybe it meets your criterea because you got it for free, and it runs foss, but I doubt many serious Homlabbers are going to want this product when there are a lot of cheaper (and more interesting) options out there. Nice try by Ugreen though, they got you there.

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

This is in no way, shape, or form a home networking product. This has no netowrking control other than setting it's IP address a tall. You could probably install a networking system on it, like OPNSense or pfSense, but that would be a waste of a NAS. That said, I believe this is absolutely a great starter product for those wanting to get into homelabs. Sorry you disagree.

[@Glatze603]

not you either...

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Not me either? Reviewing this unit? I was really happy to do the review, and Ugreen was great to work with. I think this is a great product at a solid price, and the fact they use Open Source to make it work, is even more awesome!

[@Glatze603]

@@AwesomeOpenSource But currently everyone is asking whether the Ugreen NAS is the best. Personally, I feel far too obsessed with this NAS (which is currently not even available for purchase) and the negative thing about it is that it no longer matters how good it actually is.

[@Link-channel]

​@@AwesomeOpenSource Do it if you think it's worth it, we will keep following you 🙂 don't worry. As long as you continue showing quality products

[@abdullahX001]

They should have used USB C for power

[@AwesomeOpenSource]

Would be nice, but not sure you could power that many spinning drives on USB-C only. Maybe, but in this case barrel connector is fine.

[@Crazy--Clown]

USB C has limits and sending high currents to spin up X4 HHD's is not a good idea