UGREEN NAS OS (Re)Review - 3 Months Later?

[@thisisgm21]

I didn't even boot into it, I have been running Unraid since I got it and it works flawlessly

[@nascompares]

Lovely stuff

[@junior-OG]

can you use the thunderbolt 4 port and smb multichannel in unraid ?

[@musicman0024]

@thisisgm21 - Did you just put a brand new SSD boot drive in from the go? Which drive and what size did you go with?

[@Ilham.H]

I did the same, but since i am cheap. I got OMV instead, I was wondering if we missed any good firmware/bios update

[@octaveanaugustus307]

​@@Ilham.H No mate, you’ve missed nothing worth mentioning in UGreen UGOS. When I received my DXP8800 Plus, I just went with UGOS out of curiosity. The latest version is 1.0.0.1150 which dropped a few days ago.

[@jdberdugo]

The writing is on the wall for Synology and QNAP. The pace of improvement of UGREEN is very promising. Finally a competitor that's not trying to sell 5-10 year old hardware like the newest and greatest.

[@musicman0024]

I bought the 6 Bay / DXP6800, haven't even opened it yet. Will wait a couple more months before I do to save myself from the first round of bugs / limited OS challenges. I am brand new to NAS and don't have the comfort level to run / install TrueNAS, UNRAID, etc.. Thanks for the update video!

[@Solkre82]

Running proxmox with a truenas VM since day 1, and it's been perfectly reliable.

[@octaveanaugustus307]

I like that idea. Also of note, for those who may be morbidity curious about UGreen UGOS progress, one could image the boot SSD and run it in a VM.

[@TheRealTomGreen]

I do love the good old Proxmox route, my self built NAS is doing that. But i went with baremetal TrueNAS scale on the DXP 6800 and it seems to be running quite well.

[@sherrykda3511]

I would never use it since I don`t have a use case for a prebuild NAS like this, but if i had one I would be very please with this. Looking at it being their first try on NAS Systems from a company that was not in that business before is quite good and sure, a lot of things aren't there yet, but as long as the support and development continues, that's mostly fine with me. I will follow their development and maybe in the future I`ll even recommend them to my friends

[@skyuk3000]

Great summary of the OS so far, I decided to keep using the UGOS instead of using an 3rd party. However, you've missed that the connection to active directory doesn't work and that fine for home users but for homelabs and businesses it's major oversight.

[@zocheez]

Bought the 8 bay in KS, booted their OS once just to check around, then immediately installed TrueNAS Scale because they don't have the features I need yet, iSCSI and a few others. Very happy with the system though, 8 16TB HDDs with NVME cache.

[@BrandonRatz]

Which drives did you go with??

[@TheRealTomGreen]

Nice. I did the same but smaller drives. Its a great little package!!

[@zocheez]

@@BrandonRatz I went with MDD data center, they are used data center drives rebranded by MDD but given the price, at just over $120 each I can buy a couple spares for significantly cheaper, at least until SSDs get even cheaper. Works great, I can saturate my 10gbe and it's a nice large storage for 40 years of crap I have saved up since the 80s.

[@BrandonRatz]

@zocheez thanks for the info. I have my 8 bay sitting in a box waiting to be set up. Thinking I'll go straight to TrueNAS as well. I used FreeNAS until it became TN and didn't love everything about it but it's served me well for 5+ years in a custom build. Doesn't appear UGreen's software is worth investing much time into.

[@beaster04]

Great update video, do wish ugreen had more useful apps. Is it possible u can do a video on how to install tailsacle thru docker on the ugreen NAS?

[@octaveanaugustus307]

Hear, hear! Seconded!

[@jdberdugo]

Hi there @nascompares. Love your videos... They're super informative and unbiased. I see that Ugreen NAS are hitting the market (can be purchased in Germany now). Are you planning an updated review with the production version of UGOS? Have you heard of any planned updates or features now that sales have started? Thanks a lot!

[@jodajackson4489]

I actually think a video covering how to backup the UGreen UGOS Pro OS would helpful to a lot of UGreen NAS owners looking to migrate away from UGOS but still retain the ability to go back. Also a UGOS image could be useful for running it in a VM.

[@jodajackson4489]

iSCSI LUN support wouldn’t go amiss either. Support for accessing external (USB and Thunderbolt) storage with MacOS Finder and Windows Explorer (not just through UGOS) is a sorely missed feature.

[@nascompares]

The latter one is a big ask...but...the iSCSI stuff hurt too! Kinda disappointed that is massively absent

[@jodajackson4489]

@@nascompares Fair to say Rome wasn’t built in a day. However, there are buyers that could say they have had both the above features many moons ago on competing products. UGreen can forge its own path but feature parity with the competition should not be ignored. Especially so for features considered baseline.

[@Solkre82]

@@nascompares Not on TrueNas it isn't 😉

[@Semi-Detached]

I picked up the 4 bay "pro" model. I have only used it to host some SMB shares and for those its run flawlessly. I am very happy with it, but my usage is pretty limited.

[@dakshkukkar2150]

Can UGOS catch up to DSM soon? Consumers really need a shake up in the space.

[@Jilaman]

I agree with your review. It’s still beta for the UGOS.

[@EduardoSantos-fz7qq]

Time for a new review!

[@fmrp66]

Some avi file don't play correctly using the ugreen app. However, using Windows file manager and vlc app the files play correctly.

[@BooleanDev]

for only 3 months, this is pretty good progress

[@MakilHeru]

Strange request for a Ugreen NAS video. Showcase how to run Plex using content on an external hard drive. I current am out of space and am using this as a temporary stopgap until I size up.

[@JuffoWup78]

You know, I just can't help getting the feeling that doing a preinstall of truenas would have just been a better option. I get why they did it from a market/business perspective, but it feels like until the segment was more built and mature for them, sticking truenas or unraid (though, unraid has its own cons related to annual/lifetime license charges) as the os would have been a wiser move initially. They could have then taken the first several models as they grew to understand what is wanted and better tailor an os to the market instead of charging off first run like this.

[@nascompares]

If I had to guess (and said this in other vids) 9 reckon it was because they would need to to sort licensing using a 3rd party. Also, ugreen aren't that small - they likely want to scale out of DIY and enthusiast and get into business (SMB and mid tier to start). For that, you gotta either pay a hefty TrueNAS license (which iX rarely play ball with), add UnRAID and be locked out of your own potential eco, or build your own. UGREEN seemingly want to compete and likely push out the likes of terramaster and Asustor tbh

[@rael_gc]

Sadly, still not available to buy (their support said few minutes ago they still have no time estimated).

[@MWONG06]

Some Kickstarter backers still haven't received their units; albeit that number seems very few as of today. The initial rollout came from a logistics warehouse in LA and now they are shipping directly from China. It should be available for retail once they finish deliveries.

[@nascompares]

(slightly) in their defence, I don't think they counted on the volume of sales from the initial crowdfunding... Add to that the short turn around between end of campaign and fulfilment here (and they won't get the KS funds immediately, perhaps even fractionally), I'm not massively surprised that fulfilment has been spotty. Not defending them, or letting them off on it, just not a shock. Hopefully they resolve this quickly

[@rael_gc]

@@nascompares Indeed, it makes sense!

[@JoaquinVacas]

I wrote them because I'm interested in buying a couple units from Spain, and other friends are interested too. So they told me they will begin selling them in their store in mid-August/first week of September. I really want to see this on Amazon or another trustworthy seller.

[@MrRafa1973]

What is the consumption with 6 disks in the ugreen dxp6800? And temperature?

[@TheRealTomGreen]

Thats going to depend on your drives, load level, etc. But to give you an idea I have the DXP 6800 with 6x 8TB WD Red Plus drives installed (5 of them are 5640RPM and one is a 7200RPM). I am running TrueNAS with 64Gb DDR5, a Samsung 512Gb NVMe, a 118GB Optane drive installed for playing around with cache, etc. It's pulling about 65w on average according to my smart plug. TrueNAS reports a CPU temp average of around 40-42C, disks are around 36-38C average with the 7200 being a little warmer at around 43C. Hope that helps.

[@michaelbodenhoff7871]

Ugreen have put the NAS' up for sale on at least their german shop, with a 10% discount. Meaning the DXP4800 is 540€ after discount and the DXP4800 Plus is 720€ , which makes them collide with Terramaster F4-424 and F4-424 Pro. Comparing the Ugreen plus to the F4 pro , i would prefer the more mature Terramaster software , and probably the N305 , over the 4800 Plus 🤔

[@KapitanMokraFaja]

Cannot wait for the retail! SSDs are waiting for the lovely 4 bay all ssd nas (and pendrive with unraid)

[@nascompares]

Tbh I thought they were launched at retail this week

[@KapitanMokraFaja]

@@nascompares Whaaaaat? Thank You, by retail I meant in stores actually. Nothing in central Europe, website says out of stock.

[@MonstaAU]

@@nascompares They promised a wider release (more countries, not Global) via Amazon in June which has not happened. Please follow up with UGreen and get some real answers for us on when they will be stocked.

[@frankwong9486]

It looks like it works well if used as a basic file sharing storage locally But those promised/soon/will be there/in progress functions seem still not there "yet" 😅 There is even no timetable for those things If just need a basic storage device there are many options in the market

[@joaomiguelxs]

uh-oh. pink casio video. another banger

[@TheAndred1]

These other companies are holding us up with a tier system. Ugreen has seen a massive hole in these companies holding us to ransom and not giving the consumer what they want at a reasonable price . Too many variants without top end performance . Things have changed now spinning hard-drive are becoming more affordable. All I want is the highest spec CPU for 4k plex, with high end expendability for memory, cache ,and ethernet . It doesnt need to be high end memory etc at time of purchase because we can always upgrade. It is that simple. High end chip with expandability at consumers expense .

[@FuzzyKaos]

I would have bought one if it were a quiet rack mount solution.

[@nascompares]

They DID launch ALOT of desktop at once. Surprised even a sneaky little 1U half depth rack wasn't out the door on day 1, yeah

[@jodajackson4489]

BTW, UGreen NAS VM USB passthrough doesn't work. The option is there but it simply doesn't work at all.

[@mrdali67]

It's not available yet anywhere. Maybe give it 3 months more😄 The hardware is otherwise pretty decent. Can they actually do anything if people just installs TrueNas or Unraid on it instead of the lackluster software it comes with ?

[@unitedstates3068]

would be better of software was open source. what backdoors are there?

[@leexgx]

No snapshots? ( this is their first go into this so I believe they have done pretty good, sulphur this type of thing company size doesn't matter because they've never done it before)

[@svan71]

Will Plex be adding native support to Ugreen without the need for docker?

[@petebuka]

I can't find a way to sync folders from my ugreen to external usb. Looking I only see rsync nas to nas. Has anyone found a way to back up your folder shares to USB drive?

[@tw3140]

is there any news on the ugreen nas lineup restocking

[@BenReese]

Haven't seen it done yet, but will this run Xpenology? The hardware seems to be a great value, but hearing about shared keys and lack of proper security features worries me. This could be the perfect host for gray-market Synology DSM! And I do realize that's very much a gray area since DSM isn't properly open-sourced - though it possibly should be. But licensing aside, will it run?

[@MonstaAU]

People have been able to run XPenology on them, but not all things working which is probably driver related. Drive activity lights was one thing that probably will not be resolved any time soon though.

[@BenReese]

@@MonstaAU oh, awesome! And honestly, drive activity lights don't matter much to me. My current Xpenology NAS sits in the basement and is never seen.

[@rogerhalt3991]

Can I add full HDD’s with this? Or will it format into raid config?

[@alexsanzphoto]

Not available for the uk market?

[@Geonade]

What OS would you recommend if this os isn't great, for a noob as well lol

[@moralreality7328]

Sucks they can't be found anywhere

[@dancarpenter419]

Do you think UGreen will have a comparable software to synology ? Or will synology still remain supreme

[@svenasmussen8745]

I mean even players who have been in the market for years dont have as good software as synology does, thats quite a high goal. Synology has a different value proposition, they have kinda outdated hardware but have the best software, with ugreen its kinda the opposite

[@EmilMarunde]

Could you add a quad this SABRENT 4-Drive NVMe M.2 SSD to PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter Card [EC-P3X4] SSD PCIe card in DXP8800 Plus?

[@TheRealTomGreen]

I mean.. maybe? But the case itself and the PCI-E slot is a half height card .. so you'd probably have to hack the case. It wouldnt be pretty lol.

[@BenjaminStraue]

So far almost unusable. New errors are added every day. There are a lot of complaints in the Facebook group and on the Discord. Often the whole raid breaks down and cannot be restored. The support ignores requests. I am currently very unhappy with this.

[@brianw.4985]

It is interesting how many people are putting other things on this, basically paying for the hardware.

[@hhuey5]

What audio chipset is the nas using It's not intel Realtek???

[@BootlegCraig]

Where can these be purchased? I missed out on the kickstarter (cold feet).

[@TheRealTomGreen]

No where I know of YET but i heard they should be available soon, probably Amazon when the time comes i'd assume. UGREEN tends to sell a lot of stuff on there.

[@twilihgtn]

One of the huge drawbacks is that they override permissions on the homedir every reboot. This makes SSH unusable with keys, only password! I asked the support and got a response that nothing they can do about permission change on the .ssh directory, that's by design.

[@udirt]

If only they had anything to do with said design 😂 Like Synology and unix user Id mappings

[@khoirulanam9141]

is ugreen nas os linux??? can install jellyfin on that os?

[@ivtecdaily]

Anyone else worried about the "custom" Ugreen Linux kernel? This discovery is what made me cancel my order. As someone who works in cyber security, this is very concerning coming from a Chinese company. Please don't take this the wrong way, there are cyber attacks every day coming from China, and pretty much none coming from Taiwan, where most other NAS companies are based.

[@TazzSmk]

is the OS outsourced by Synology? it looks too similar in every way I can't imagine being developed independently and without lawsuits?

[@BenReese]

Too many missing pieces to be outsourced by Synology. I wish Synology would sell the OS separate for a self-hosted NAS though!

[@Terrnaz]

Does anyone know if one can reinstall Ugreen native OS after one have installed a 3rd party OS, like TrueNAS?

[@TheRealTomGreen]

Currently there is no official images of their OS available to reinstall, so no. I heard from another KZbinr that they might offer it in the future... but i wouldnt hold my breath right now. Safer thing to do is either 1) take an image of the OS (clonezilla is free..) and back it up on another drive in case you ever want to restore it or 2) remove or disable their NVMe drive with their OS and install another NVMe of your own in order to install TrueNAS on that (you can get a cheap 250gb NVME for like $20 these days). Then you can always either reinstall or enable the original UGREEN NVMe down the road.

[@Terrnaz]

@@TheRealTomGreen Thanks for the reply. The ultimate reason for me vasking this is I am able to purchases one from the Chinese Market (Taobao) and the seller told me it only works in Mainland China. I was hoping they provide the OS so I can Install the International OS on the Chinese NAS if I am not able to set up TrueNAS (as I have no experience in NAS atm). And since I dont own an International versioner of the NAS it will be hard for me to clone the OS :(

[@TheRealTomGreen]

@@Terrnaz Yah i imagine the BIOS on it there might also be chinese specific? At least in terms of Language.. i can't remember if i saw language settings in the BIOS. At the end of the day its still decent hardware so you can probably install TrueNAS, UNRAID, proxmox, whatever you want really if you're more familiar with another platform. Since you aren't familiar with TrueNAS id probably encourage you to checkout UNRAID instead, its a little more user friendly... TrueNAS is wonderful but there are a lot of quirks, it can have a steep learning curve and it performs best with lots of RAM. Honestly the UGreen OS seemed ok, but it is definately still missing features i wanted. Of course those features might not matter to you... but you could always just wait for UGREEN to start selling the international version again which is supposed to be soon. But... if i can ask.. how good was the price in the chinese one? :D

[@edhahaz]

I don't understand NAS hardware vendors' obsession with making subpar software that their clients will have to subsidize

[@saftschinken2353]

Is there any official relase date for those NAS Systems?

[@nascompares]

Tbh, I thought release was..well...now

[@saftschinken2353]

@@nascompares I'm really turned towards the DXP 4800 Plus. Reason 1: Optics and Material Reason 2: Hardware Turnoff: Software. But as you said they improved it the last three months quite a bit. It has potential

[@BenjaminStraue]

@@nascompares latest update form the support says august

[@saftschinken2353]

@@nascompares still nothing... I guess we'll have to wait for a couple of months

[@john_in_phoenix]

I hate seagulls! But I will admit the KZbin algorithm loves them. I am waiting to purchase enough drives to fill my 6 bay up, but hopefully soon I can replace two of my Synology NAS with this running TrueNAS. I appreciate your updates on the Ugreen software.

[@nascompares]

Thanks for the kind words man (that said, your earlier mention of seagulls triggers me and I think you know that)

[@zMeul]

chinesium software should be avoided at all costs if I'd buy one of their NASes, I'd put TrueNAS on it immediately

[@MitchGonz]

Why do you say this? My UGREEN NAS arrived today and I have not setup yet

[@zMeul]

@@MitchGonz it's a security risk already established NAS solutions have been breached and data got stolen / encrypted

[@solidunit]

just install debian and be done with it

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[@FosterMarsh-d1f]

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[@jeremymoon9088]

Is vadility similar to validity? Hmm...smdh

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