Chris has 6 months to build his ultimate Yamaha Tenere 700 Extreme, in part 1 of this series he starts with a few basics.
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@samihasib3 ай бұрын
Chris rides at such a high level compared to most of us that he makes any bike 'the best' for its intended purpose.
@Alexander-of7ny3 ай бұрын
Agree👍
@exothermal.sprocket3 ай бұрын
Check out Pol Tarrés. I think he's done things with the T7 no one else on the planet has done.
@allanproctor25323 ай бұрын
Glad you're liking the t7 I love mine. Wee tip for abs. While in gear. Flick out the side stand. It kills the engine and when you start the bike abs settings are still the same.
@natenobrakes62923 ай бұрын
Never rode off-road bikes, probably never will, but watched this video anyway. Damn you Chris!
@pinkiewerewolf3 ай бұрын
I’ve had a 22’ 890 Adventure for a year and a half, just picked up a 24’ T7. Still in the break-in but I’m thoroughly enjoying the T7. I think the bike is a good fit for me even though it is a bit taller than the 890, with me being only 5’8” and a 30.5” inseam.
@iangriffiths99303 ай бұрын
I’m the same size as you and find the T7 just too tall, it’s fine when everything is going to plan but the moment you need to take an unplanned tab etc I’m in trouble 😮
@pinkiewerewolf3 ай бұрын
@@iangriffiths9930 Yeah, it takes some maneuvering of the body, for sure. I had a KLR 650 2nd Gen, Pan America and a 1290 SA-R before the 890. The 890 is nice with the shorter seat height but I was after the extra off-road clearance along with a less intrusive bike.
@exothermal.sprocket3 ай бұрын
We all want to hear that CP2 bark. I recon a pipe, snorkel removal, and a flash will solve the running issue.
@kkattrap3 ай бұрын
Yeah that sounds like some newer ECU tune that the older T7's don't have or just something with this bike.
@exothermal.sprocket3 ай бұрын
There's nothing by way of hardware on these bikes that shouldn't enable these engines to run absolutely perfect. It's the tuning, to please bureaucracies.
@nhardy24803 ай бұрын
It doesnt- mine still is grumpy when cold despite all the upgrades!
@exothermal.sprocket3 ай бұрын
@@nhardy2480 And not all tuners are equally reputable or know what they are doing. Tuning is an art, requires good grasp of combustion engines and electronic controls.
@Advcrazy3 ай бұрын
Enjoy riding kinda fast on road as much as I like riding it off road”…I’m looking for the same and can’t decide between the extreme and the World Raid. I was really impressed at how light the extreme feels. Can’t get a test ride on a WR unfortunately. Tough one. Thanks for the vid and I’m looking forward to an update!
@Twistsquishbang3 ай бұрын
The bike you are after doesn’t exist, I ended up with two bikes for this reason the best on road bike(ktm 690 smc r I need performance not luxury) and the best off road bike available(ktm 300 exc 2stroke lightest bang for your buck) long story short I sold them both for the tenere it does everything at half the cost, but you won’t get the best of both worlds but what it does off road is better than anything else. Not bothered about road riding now as almost every ride on the supermoto I nearly died
@guylevyathan74183 ай бұрын
I’m really interested on a comparison to the 890R As a fun bike Whealy skid and all other sort of shannanigans Your opinion matters, you have a lot of experience with KTM’s
@hardcorerider43413 ай бұрын
Do Tuareg Next. Pls. Do
@Gud-y2s3 ай бұрын
I don't know how it would fit, but putting the rally gytr fuel tanks on that bike would make it perfect. Expensive yes, but still doable if you compare it to bikes like the 890, desert x, etc. Someone will do it.
@urbanstrencan3 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see final product, but don't forget on Akrapovič ❤❤❤❤
@macavenco3 ай бұрын
Becoming a fan of this channel as i discovered recently. It would be nice to have a comparison to the Aprilia Tuareg, since the opinions on the channel seem to be independent. Because i lost count to the versions of the T7. Is it enough a unique version of the Tuareg for the four, or give, versions of the T7? Cheers
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
Hi, hope you've subscribed? Thanks for your support, we will do a comparison with a few other bikes once we've finished the upgrades.
@andreasstefanou58983 ай бұрын
Best adventure bike ever
@Dzinbhudist3 ай бұрын
Abs reset is controlled by safety certification it should reset every-time you restart your bike, no “official” way to workaround 😉
@chrishart85483 ай бұрын
So why do so many other bikes not reset each time
@Dzinbhudist3 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 all new ones reset, I have bike which do not reset, because no abs at all 🤣
@Dzinbhudist3 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 example and year of manufacturing?
@leeinwisАй бұрын
It's the best because of the blue color ?
@rideroll96093 ай бұрын
Norden 901 if you upgrade shitty KTM CAM shafts... Great bike with epic design. Tenere is just offroad bike without good design.
@stefanbrycke33493 ай бұрын
The fulong when cool is something my Ducati 1200 does, i call it character and she makes up for it 2min later… 😇
@CanadianTexaninLiguria3 ай бұрын
Nope. Tuareg 660, hands down.
@paolozampieri26913 ай бұрын
This guy will tell you a tricycle is THE best bike EVER if he has to. And all the gadgets he's endorsing as well!
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
"Has to"? We've not been paid anything for these vids, we're just trying to make something entertaining and informative.
@SB-Kiwi3 ай бұрын
Bollocks
@bennyb.17423 ай бұрын
*Cries in North American market* Why can't we have nice things!?
@Captndarty3 ай бұрын
There must be a tariff or tax that Yamaha is unwilling to pay to import multiple models of the T7 to the United States. We here have more adventure ready terrain to ride than the entirety of Europe yet you in the United Kingdom get all the various Tenere models. Whats up Yamaha?
@DeadRoman3 ай бұрын
More dope shit from Yamaha that we wont get in America.
@Emily-ou6lq3 ай бұрын
Way too heavy though
@chrishart85483 ай бұрын
I would prefer a honda NX500 but with single cylinder engine would still make 47hp easy. And would make the bike lighter and maybe a higher exhaust and some wire wheels. Bit more like the old NX650
@Emily-ou6lq3 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 the aircooled 650 RFVC makes maybe 35hp if you're lucky. The watercooled 650 of the XR650R doesn't even make 50hp. Honda making a 500 single with 47hp is wishful thinking. Btw their streetlegal CRF450L with a compression ratio of 12:1 makes 39hp and needs a complete rebuild including crankshaft after 32k km according to the Honda shop manual....
@chrishart85483 ай бұрын
@@Emily-ou6lq how about a 600cc single ? Be a bit like that AGP 7 then but at least you could trust a honda
@Emily-ou6lq3 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 Once they retired the XR650R they stuck its engine (with a bigger 686cc piston) in their TRX700XX quad. So they already have the engine
@jeltonjelton34373 ай бұрын
I very much would like to hear Chris' opinion on the Tuareg 660
@Lopez_673 ай бұрын
The T7 isn't the best at anything, but it will survive anything. If Aprilia had a better dealer network, the T7 wouldn't even exist anymore.
@SB-Kiwi3 ай бұрын
I don't know if you're allowed to bolt on such a mod or if Yamaha will get pissy about it, but LSK Electronics do a plug & play dongle which enables the bike to remember your ABS settings when switched off. Game changer. 👍🏼
@SMP-qs2be3 ай бұрын
Just installed on mine . Game changer it is. No idea how they do it but switching on and off abs is now a doddle with the big switch and it holds the memory when switching off. Plug and play too. Took literally 20s to install.
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
Cheers, we'll check it out.
@erickmontero62223 ай бұрын
Tuareg next!
@mrbookends3 ай бұрын
I like imagining the neighbors wondering what Chris is all about on a cold morning when he leaves his house and stalls it - "I thought that guy worked at a bike factory or something? Is he new to bikes?"
@nastysoda9212Ай бұрын
The only thing stopping me from buying a tenere 700 today is the suspension. I am in the US and we only get one configuration, the base model... it stinks. If they offer this version in the us it will be sold out. Please YAMAHA, give this to the US market, please.
@TriAngles3D3 ай бұрын
So many aspects about this bike stand out. Smaller than these SUV sized ADV bikes. It is like a big dirt bike. But also the old-skool simplicity or otherwise lack of nonsense electronics like rider modes, traction control. I want to ride my bikes not my AMD PC's. The ABS function is a hassle. But I am sure someone will discover a work around.
@santiagomoralesgarcia18023 ай бұрын
Yeah, i think the most important electronic gadghets for a bike is ABS (with cornering ABS) and digital display (no TFT display) and slipper clutch, and for bigger cc bikes, traction control and power modes.
@rasthurlo68123 ай бұрын
Mostly like riding twin cylinder bikes on enduro trails. IMHO T7 is not the best off-road twin bike, Center of Gravity way too high for technical terrain. I Had a tricked out T7 with Andreani Cartriges and Ohlins shock, but found it just too much work offroad. Now have a 890R and super happy with the geometry/handling/CoG for my kind of riding That said the T7's engine is a peach
@TriAngles3D3 ай бұрын
The exact bike to be long-term tested by the exact person that you want to test it...
@tomtom85523 ай бұрын
The ABS issue has a fix already. Pretty sure well be seeing the LSK ABS dongle kit soon in a future mod video. Cant wait to see what more You'll be doing to it.
@guzziman3 ай бұрын
All the reviews so focus on off road, but reality most guys owning it ride 80% on road..... that would be a good review...highway... long travel, abuse it on road :)
@SkuStyle3 ай бұрын
Quick answer to the question .... NO! The Aprilia Tuareg 660 is way better Off-Road ADV Bike.
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
Tell us why?
@SkuStyle3 ай бұрын
@@BikeWorldTVshow Tuareg 660, more suspension travel, better ground clearance, tubeless wheels, more fuel capacity and situated lower down, cruise control, rider aids -Traction Control, more wind protection, better engine for low speed and all round traction... I could go on......🙏
@2wheels.are.better.than43 ай бұрын
Pull the ABS fuse (which is what I did), or get the LSK Electronics dongle 👍🏼
@chrishart85483 ай бұрын
Or just put a switch in line with the fuse would probably cost less than a quid
@user-hf8ie8mf3n3 ай бұрын
I finally figured it out. These reviews are actually about whether the bikes can withstand Chris or not. Simple as that, and if I were a manufacturer, I’d be holding my breath when these vids come out. Serious dude. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
@braaaaaaaaaaap3 ай бұрын
At least take out the spark arrestor if you haven't or put on a slip-on. Definitely recommend a full exhaust and a tune. Wakes the bike up. Fixes the power loss at high rpm, revs out much faster, gains about 6hp, loses 12+ pounds. Lithium battery to lose 4.5lbs.
@KairyuRider3 ай бұрын
NOT SOLD IN JAPAN!!!!! But this is Yamahas main business plan, take the best models and don't sell them to the Japanese who make it.
@beags19793 ай бұрын
Chris, when are you going to test the Aprilia Tuareg?
@Dailyrider943 ай бұрын
brake magazine has a cool series on modding this one. Looking forward to
@timothymills7333 ай бұрын
Good chance it will be as most other ADV bikes are way too heavy.
@chrishart85483 ай бұрын
It makes them a lot more stable on the road though
@kkattrap3 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 The T7 is not lighter weight like the Husky 701/ KTM 690. T7 is plenty stable on road with the long wheelbase. Only when you mount really aggressive offroad tires does the T7 have problems at high speed, as would most other adv bikes with knobbies that aren't made for that.
@chrishart85483 ай бұрын
@@kkattrap would you agree the 701 and 690 are definitely not stable at high speed on the road.
@kkattrap3 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 One thing I see with the 690/701 Enduros is defaulting to more aggressive tires. They both have the same front stock tire size (90/90/21) but the 690/701 has a 140/80/18 rear vs 150/70/18. Less tire contact is great for offroad breaking traction but bad for pavement. A high front fender can contribute to weird wind deflection (stock for 690/701 but aftermarket for the T7). Stock form for both, the 690/701 Enduros are not designed for high speed pavement while the Tenere is. The Tenere can be made worse for road use and the 690/701 Enduros better. Folks rip around on a 690/701 supermoto knows the engine or the overall design is not the limiting factor for road worthiness.
@AustrisPhoto3 ай бұрын
ABS issue is solved easily with LSK Electronics dongle.
@ronanrogers41273 ай бұрын
Sounds like you need a couple of dongles to address the two things you don’t like…or are they available for KTMs only?
@brandome46703 ай бұрын
If you kill it by putting the kickstand down and leaving the key in the "on" position, ABS will stay off
@OutdoorFun01Ай бұрын
Did you try the Honda Transalp?
@BikeWorldTVshowАй бұрын
@@OutdoorFun01 not yet, it’s on our list.
@OutdoorFun01Ай бұрын
@@BikeWorldTVshow Yay!!! Can't wait to hear more from you. Thx!
@Shroomy80127 күн бұрын
Does anyone know if someone thats 5’10 can fit on one of these comfortably?
@renatojlopes3 ай бұрын
Chris, this is cool, but what I want to see is you combined with Desert X Rally: make it happen. 😂 Thanks in advance.
@Roadlesstraveled12442 ай бұрын
U get abs dongle Chris also u want to replace restrictive air box that’s best mod cold starts bike can breath
@bernardcucuz33153 ай бұрын
Love to the Grand Turismo career mode progress. Love the video
@kostasrestas3 ай бұрын
Its 1 of the best !!! cheers from Greece , a T7 lover !!!
@Moby1805713 ай бұрын
Spot on review.... 2 years in and a few upgrades like suspension mine makes me grin every time.... like a big WR450
@emperorkhan99413 ай бұрын
Very helpful and knowledgeable to know and well said feedbacks, loved it. Looking forward to more thoughts and impressions of the T7 Extreme.
@JPalazzolo319 күн бұрын
This thing coming to the US any time soon?
@TheSweetasanut3 ай бұрын
If pol terres can’t break one then I’m sure you won’t
@motoboggle75253 ай бұрын
Where are the videos Chris 🤷♀️🤷♀️🙏🙏
@Terraceview3 ай бұрын
Mods this mods that, it should be good from the start no?
@dumitrascuraul47293 ай бұрын
Best moto reviews by far. Keep it up 💪🏼
@Bryan-lg3fn3 ай бұрын
Chris always love your reviews , a man with your knowledge of motorcycles i trust blindly ( which is rare for me ) . I was getting excited about this Tenere extreme for a minute and then i realized i live in the states which means we won't be getting this version ......I guess Yamaha doesn't like us to much
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
So we hear, why is that?
@Ron-n4s3 ай бұрын
Yamaha doesn't hold the candle to the apria. Apria handles better and is Lighter
@Twistsquishbang3 ай бұрын
Wrong!!! You obviously haven’t riden a tenere Nothing handles off road better than a tenere
@anshusharma15233 ай бұрын
really enjoyed watching this!
@Lopez_673 ай бұрын
I'll save you a years worth of testing, it isn't. 😂
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
We'll race you!
@je76473 ай бұрын
wouldnt consider this an off road bike at all really
@Twistsquishbang3 ай бұрын
It’s more off road than any bike in its class
@franmolina73673 ай бұрын
aprilia tuareg 660 is better
@Gimme_Stitches3 ай бұрын
No
@iangriffiths99303 ай бұрын
Too many small issues with them for me, hopefully Aprilia will work them all out, then it would be a fantastic bike
@grego10r3 ай бұрын
lol
@franmolina73673 ай бұрын
@@Gimme_Stitchesyes
@theriderdtm86503 ай бұрын
✌🏻😊
@FaetalEU3 ай бұрын
It's such an amazing bike, if not very much too top heavy :P had the old xt 600 tenere, which had the same curse. To me it's a great 2nd place behind the ktm 790/890 r platform. But i do prefer the tenere for touring (wish it had cruise control tho)
@offroadistheway2 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see more from this long term review! For the ABS, for a more "OEM like" solution, you have the LSK ABS Dongle (has a memory feature for whatever ABS setting you select even if you turn the bike off - but it's 150 € or something). Or for a Much cheaper alternative, you can make a switch to intersect the rear ABS sensor plug under the panel where your right knee sits to make the ABS go into Fault Mode and deactivate while still keeping your speed and ODO (FuelDongle makes one for 25 € or thereabouts). Hope this helps :) Life's better when you're riding ;P
@MagnumMuscle10003 ай бұрын
Yamaha needs to make an 850 Tenere with cruise control, premium off-road suspension (manually adjustable), with no weight penalty, and upgraded electronics (TC, and fix the ABS issue). I'd buy that bike in a heartbeat.
@7Deejay3 ай бұрын
Nope, so far it will be CF Moto 450MT or ibex in US market i believe reasonable price for what you get
@iangriffiths99303 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this bike 👍
@chrishart85483 ай бұрын
Is that a twin though
@HeavyEnduroAdventures3 ай бұрын
For abs just buy a switch from Fuel Dongles quick install simple abs turn of on fly and if you restart the bike it remembers it being off and is dead cheap as well.
@aluisious3 ай бұрын
…no. A drz400 is better. Weight is the enemy off-road.
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
That’s not exactly an adventure bike though is it!
@Twistsquishbang3 ай бұрын
Wrong this bike defies its weight and will absolutely destroy an drz400 up, down and anywhere you care to call a challenge
@Foegol3 ай бұрын
Adding 2 (or more) teeth to the rear sprocket might spice it up a little for you. I've done it and at first I thought it didn't make much of a difference, until I put the original back on. That lasted for about 500 meters.
@mikeshakespeare72943 ай бұрын
I can't stand these half mudguard things! One thing or another please.
@ianjohnson53652 ай бұрын
Bottom is for exhaust guard top is for everything else, it has its benefits
@mikeshakespeare72942 ай бұрын
@@ianjohnson5365 I get it, but in my experience a low guard will clog with mud in wet conditions, hence the use of a high guard. Obviously not an issue in dry conditions.
@gpzfan52723 ай бұрын
What size are those Kriega bags? I’m torn between the 6L and 12L for my DesertX. Don’t want them too bulky and in the way
@paulcoverdale83125 күн бұрын
Get both see what’s best for a couple of days an send back the ones u don’t want!
@paulcoverdale83125 күн бұрын
Oh an Don’t go mud pluggin or anything else!😂😂😂
@gpzfan52725 күн бұрын
@@paulcoverdale8312 I got the 12L bags in the end, they’re just right
@2day_we_ride3 ай бұрын
Chris, you capture the point of riding so perfectly. Does it make you smile and encourage you to do the things you like doing. Also, excellent use of 'hooning around', my favourite riding verb 🤘😁
@str8shooter23 ай бұрын
Looks like a fun reliable bike.Tempting to sell my old KTM 950 for one of these.
@CRFLAus3 ай бұрын
Bridgestone AX-41's are great. It's amazing how well behaved they are on the road for knobbies.
@GixxerZilla3 ай бұрын
Higher exhaust, thank me later
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
One of the next jobs
@paulwilson96163 ай бұрын
Excellent video as usual Chris , I’ve had a KTM 690 usual problems, F800 GS which I took Morocco . I come from an off-road background. I bought the world raid last year. I also thought it would be a bit underpowered but as you said every time I get on that bike it puts a smile on my face. it’s bulletproof. It looks fantastic and it’s reliable. I have changed the front sprocket to 16 tooth. Which the bike still performs fantastic off-road and on road it’s a different beast giving you that longer first gear. I often do distance work down to my brothers in Dorset no problem at all on the motorways
@josech3 ай бұрын
Great to see Yamaha finally improved the exhaust hanger design. Oh, wait!
@MLeitao3 ай бұрын
I think your first mod should be the abs dongle...
@Davinch-e6x3 ай бұрын
Fork springs to stiff on mine bet your only getting 50mm of sag ,looks like they kept the same springs as the heavier world raid
@siraff44613 ай бұрын
Exhaust, remap, tail tidy of some sort and enjoy. Oh and apparently the abs is easy to sort but since I've never had a situation where it helped but plenty where it got in the way I think I would just pull the whole system off, lose the extra weight and have brakes that do as they're told when they're told.
@XtremeCoke3 ай бұрын
No, best offroad is 890 adventure R. However is come with a price to own which is separate issue.
@ridewherever3 ай бұрын
When I test road it a couple of years ago on a 160 mile dirt loop, I couldn’t get over how clunky the gear box was. It already had 3,000 miles on it due to it being a tour rental. That was the only negative at the time.
@Twistsquishbang3 ай бұрын
I have to say after reading the comments that the tenere is the most misunderstood bike on the planet, stay tuned I will upload my opinion of this bike.
@urhhoney3 ай бұрын
Will you put on a progressive shock and forks?
@brandonabbott75743 ай бұрын
I hope this leads to a “Best off-road bike” series and you test the Aprilia and the Desert X. You happen to be the best Bike World presenter. Others have ridden bikes for launches that were underwhelming.
@ValdemhaarАй бұрын
love this, got my tenere 2023 this summer... loving the hell out of it
@Davinch-e6x3 ай бұрын
Arrow titanium headers,,gytr stage 1 ecu next
@mariokolenko43223 ай бұрын
No more DREAM RIDES?
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
Yep, we’ll be back up there in a couple of weeks.
@billcag3 ай бұрын
You may want to have a look at LSK for the ABS fix. 😊👍🇦🇺
@DJAguitars3 ай бұрын
Just got my extreme, looking forward to seeing how this series evolves 👍
@mikehbomb692 ай бұрын
Looking forward to how you get on with this long term 👍
@petewatson98663 ай бұрын
My big problem with the T7 is its AGE, and Yamaha has done little to improve it since the T660, BUT Yamaha have increased the price. It’s just not competitive anymore with what you can buy for £10k+. No matter how you rag it around a field its competitors can do the same plus kick its ass on long motorway journeys. No heated grips or seat on UK roads 😮. No cruise control the list goes on. I just feel Yamaha are milking their loyal following, but even they will dry up
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
This isn't about heated grips or seats though Pete, so ragging it around a field is very relevant to the subject of this video, the clue is in the title!
@iangriffiths99303 ай бұрын
The normal T7 is too tall and too top heavy for me, I think this extreme version must be worse. A little disappointed we are not seeing the Suzuki 800 project bike as there isn’t much UK off road content with this bike.
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
We're still waiting for the bike, won't be long.
@longdaysandhardworkatramra82603 ай бұрын
If you factor in reliability yes.
@shadowred19803 ай бұрын
I tested the tenere and 890, money went on the 890. Tenere was to tall and lacked power for the weight, top heavy. Ducati didn't have a demo desert x at the time.
@kkattrap3 ай бұрын
Higher center of gravity / top heavy nature of the T7 is absolutely a negative vs the low-slung tanks of the 790/890.
@Avensur3 ай бұрын
Yes Indeed my friend!💪
@selegaso3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great report. 👍Can you tell me how tall you are so that I can better estimate the proportions?
@BikeWorldTVshow3 ай бұрын
Thanks, Chris is about 5'8.
@mikelyon55953 ай бұрын
Sadly, the Extreme is N/A in the States!
@solcambs3 ай бұрын
Make your own - high level mudguard, world raid suspension (including rocker arm and dogbones), a set of GYTR pegs, a radiator guard (if you really have to), good bash plate, a rally seat (perhaps) and a longer side stand. You have the Extreme in function if not name.