Is There A Future For Premium Analogue Bikes? The MBR Show

[@GuyKesTV]

Cheers for the shout out gents, one day I'll get you up here for a Thursday Night Fight Club and prove it's not all type 2 XC, there's some type 2 Enduro too 🤣

[@MBRmagazine]

Ha! Thursday night is crochet club, sorry! 😂

[@gibra92]

You won’t fully appreciate an e-bike until you try one! After being out of mountain biking for about three years, I initially planned to get a high-end aluminum MTB, like a Commencal. But once I tried an e-bike, I had such a blast that I couldn’t even consider a regular bike anymore. I was also fortunate to find a great deal on a Trek Rail, so I went for it. I can honestly say it’s an absolute game-changer-especially for someone who wants to maximize their ride. If you’re already spending significant money, it makes sense to invest in one with a motor. From a performance standpoint, you’ll get more out of your rides, which ultimately means more fun!

[@MBRmagazine]

🤘

[@sambolo]

I ride both, mtb and e-mtb. I don’t ride for sport or fitness, I ride just for fun and thrill, and I love going downhill. Lift or ebike, whatever takes me up again for another downhill suits for me.

[@tablatom]

I ride almost every day, and my two analog bikes cost a total of about £3200 as I got them secondhand and rebuilt them. For me to have a bike that would cost £3000 would be an absolute luxury and would be more than enough than I would ever need to fulfil everything I would like to do.

[@mikes.8305]

I just built up a SJ 15 that’s more expensive than many e-bikes… Honestly I’m having more fun on analog at the moment. All that being said they should cost less than and e-bike with similar spec right?

[@ilove2learn783]

With these prices? No. I'm switching to motorbike.

[@Peanutdenver]

They're very close in price to my 2024 KTM 125SX...and not far off my race bike a 24 450 SXF

[@markianross]

Good luck riding that on the trails or taking it to a bike park

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

Jet

[@Mrp0lly-y9j]

Its just a mountain bike. Stop saying analog, and please never say acoustic. It's just a mountain bike. If your talking about an e-bike, then say e-bike.

[@robertmckendry8670]

It could be a mountain bike unplugged

[@chickenclips]

Amish bike then.

[@MTNMAX88]

@@robertmckendry8670 no, it’s just a mountain bike, and they have always been “mountain bikes.” There is no need to change the name or add to it just because there are now e-bikes. There are mountain bikes and electric mountain bikes.

[@jontoad]

I have a Bronson V3 from 2019 with a coil shock and cascade link installed and I have never felt like they changed enough since then to make me want to upgrade to a new Bronson. It might be my forever analog bike with the way things are going. I did just buy a Pivot Shuttle LT Ebike with the insane sales that are going on right now. I love it, but with the way tech is advancing in Ebikes I feel like it will probably be my brand new Ebike that will be outdated before my 2019 Bronson is.

[@dadventuretv2538]

Same story here. 2019 Bronson V3. Just got an Ibis Oso this past December. Just mulletted the V3 2 weeks ago. Do not see any need to buy another analog mtb. Hopefully not emtb either.

[@SL--rz6ul]

I don't understand why you're calling a bike analogue? In electronic music, analogue means the sound is created electronically. Can't we just say 'Traditional Mountain Bike' and 'E-Bike' ?

[@MBRmagazine]

It’s just a phrase that has been coined and used by loads of people. Not necessarily a great one, but there you go.

[@spektrumB]

​@@MBRmagazineJust because people create non-sense rubbish. You have to use it.

[@MTNMAX88]

@@MBRmagazine it’s the wrong phrase. Just because people are mistakenly using it, does not mean it should be the accepted norm. Be better. Do what is right. Bikes and e-bikes, it’s that simple.

[@paulhshudson]

​@@MBRmagazineYou hang out with weird people. Most people would call them a mountain bike and electric assist bikes e-bikes.

[@motoboy6666]

@@MBRmagazine >Loads of people >MBR

[@richchin5163]

I think another question is whether heavy mid to long travel bikes without a motor would have any appeal for the non-racer. I think the short travel trail bike without a motor will always have its audience at all price points.

[@323johnnybravo]

Out here in Colorado Ebikes are banned on most of the trails. They are definitely looked down on by the old school XC crowd.

[@LiveStoked]

Old people dislike everything. 😂

[@greggoldman893]

IDC. I ebike everywhere!!!

[@sultanabran1]

haha the xc crowd. they are the crowd that everyone looks down on. ebike or not. no one like those punks.

[@MBRmagazine]

That is probably the biggest problem in mountain biking: riders looking down on other riders.

[@greggoldman893]

@@MBRmagazine Yup! Share the trail! The trail doesn’t belong to any individual user. Ride responsibly! And courteously! More access and less restrictions!

[@simonchocian6632]

I’m definitely going to buy an electric mtb next. Having tried one, they are so much fun and needed help for these hills as I get older. Super fun and puts a whole new perspective on riding 😊

[@spikeymike267]

Just bought a Cannondale moterra sl1, still got my enduro bike…..3 rides in on the ebike and it’s threw up some interesting points, one being I definitely won’t be getting rid of the enduro. Time will tell whether I’m fully onboard with the eeb, it’s almost a different sport, without question climbing is nuts on it, but on undulating terrain you can get a few pedal strokes in now and again and get some crazy speed going….takes me back to long long ago and blipping a throttle (mx). Be interesting when I get back on the enduro.

[@MBRmagazine]

We’ve got a Moterra SL on test right now 👍

[@Twentykixx]

Great timing actually. I’ve been riding both analog and e-bike on the same trails recently to gauge my interest for a new analog rig. What I found was that my older 2018 Scott 700 LT Tuned 160/160 with RSV 30 upgrade and AXS XO are still working perfectly fine. @29lbs fully kitted with maxxis exo with adjustable kinematics, flip and twin-lock, I simply cannot see how it gets better for an analog rig. I tried a couple of the newer models Scott, Trek, Specialized, and frankly put, none of those were even close to snappy and gnar charging as the 700 LT Tuned in one package. For my custom SC Bullit, at 50lbs fully kitted with maxxis DD, I simply cannot stop riding it, I can go for hours on it and that really is something special. I cannot say one way or another which I would prefer if I had to choose one, but probably the Bullit as it can really do everything with adjustable suspension. It’s incredible. IMHO. Would I ever spend +8K for an analog bike, probably not. It would have to be a complete quiver killer, but that’s reserved for a full power +630wh under 20kg e-bike that hasn’t been made yet. Cheers!

[@wazamarine]

I was at my local bike shop the other day, the sales guy told me e mtb’s are out selling the higher end analog bikes almost 10 to 1, he said e-bike sales are saving the bike shops the same way the UTV’s saved the off road motorcycle industry a few years back

[@johnnietillotson3465]

There are many places in the US that do not allow e-bikes. Most Federal Govt. land and many state parks do not allow e-bikes. Plus, some folks rather ride regular or non-assisted MTBs, regardless of the price.

[@wgnwheels333]

So much for usa being the land of freedom

[@sedohrj87]

And I'll still take my tiny Bosch active line plus 50nm motor and tiny 400W battery on those trails and nothing will be done about it because your average person can't even tell it's an e bike. Understanding class levels of e bikes is crucial here, not all e bikes are the same.

[@tolyho73]

I just ordered this frame to fit a bit of a "hole" in my two bikes/where I like to ride... and plenty of parts sitting around to build it up. I have another trail 29'r with 150/160 travel but steeper HT and shorter wheelbase so the 10 days a month I tend to ride steeper, raunchy stuff it becomes more survival mode. Sure, it works but I would rather have a bit more stability and less arse buzz of the MX that climbs almost as well. The 3rd is a big MX ebike which is was what pointed me this direction.

[@davefreeman9347]

I think your spot on boys the analogue bike is on borrowed time you only have to look at places selling them second hand such as eBay it’s littered with them and they are giving them away, I agree for racers and pros they will always serve a purpose but for the average Jo who wants to cram as mush riding into their busy lives e-bikes all the way. e-bikes will have around 90% plus of the MTB market within the next few years great topic lads 👍

[@10100110101]

Probably the end for them in Australia unless it’s a downhill bike. It’s rare to see a non e-bike on the trails. Well, not rare, but e-bikes seem to well outnumber non e-bikes on most trails.

[@steez8888]

This has been my experience as well. I think it comes down to riding more for the short, closed period of time you have.

[@pwalopwaloson9009]

I have a Gen MX Bronson and with the Super Deluxe shock the bike wasn’t a happy package. Having had the Gen 3 frame for 2 years previously and finding it a breeze to set up and ride the Gen 4 wasn’t that! It was soft- too soft into its travel and then harsh as hell on rough descents! Eventually I fitted a Fox X2 and experimented like hell - this eventually got me to sweet spot with a lot of LSC and HSR - one volume spacer and about 30% sag. From watching Guys review it almost sounds as though the new version feels as my Gen felt on the original shock. I love this bike now - it’s still playful and turns like a housefly! I’ve got a Kenevo SL that’s immensely capable however it’s no trail bike and nowhere near as much fun to ride! Sounds like the bronsons been edged further towards short travel enduro bike!

[@briannyob7799]

Higher prices are being done on purpose by brands as they want to push us into e-bikes. Regular mountain bikes have no easy route to post-sale monetization. E-bikes will start getting some kind of subscription service for really high-end features in a few years. Slowly, the feature bar will be lowered to include basic features. Think I'm paranoid? This is slowly happening to virtually everything else.

[@MBRmagazine]

Will visibly be interesting to see if this happens. Bosch already has it for some of its data-based services on the smart system, but it’s free for the first year.

[@rouxenophobe]

pay per brake pull

[@NaZ-rs1dd]

Love the platform So it would be greatly appreciated if you boys introduce yourselves at the start of every mbr session's..

[@huckfin1598]

We have reached peak MTB about 4 years ago

[@ssjj9584]

You said it: people aren’t going to buy a new bike with a degree slacker head angle. Brands are pushing E for money opportunities to sell the dream of “making you a better rider” of upgrade potential year to year with tech much easier than analog marketing (iPhone mentality). All kinds of marketing to suck you in. “E bikes make you a world class XC rider…” more workout… (false because lazy people will only do 2 ups on analog and 4 on E so E is more workout lol. ) The way they spin everything to get you hooked like an E drug. It’s hilarious. People eat up the tech and brands are counting on it

[@dangerfulmind]

Yeap people want the easy option and convince themselves they're getting a better workout because they have a high heart rate, what they don't realise is their leg muscles aren't working as hard, hence if I sit on a chair and spin my legs as if on a bike my heart rate will get high, but my legs aren't getting pedalling muscles.

[@zizusaid]

@@dangerfulmind It's boring to ride the normal bikes... how don't you realize that part of the equation? It's slow, it's limiting you in every aspect. If I want to have big muscles on my legs, I go and do squats... This Xc mentality is really annoying. If you are slow you get left behind and that is what's happening. Deal with it...

[@dangerfulmind]

@@zizusaid 🤦‍♂️

[@Srt3D01-db-01]

@@zizusaid lol

[@tolyho73]

I see it kind of in the middle of this and what zizusaid said. It's not "boring" but I do get twice the downhill laps when I want to or can carry a chainsaw for trail work and still rip a lap to pick it back up much easier than my mtb. Splitting time between the two has helped my 50yo knees heal more as well. Not saying it's for everybody but there are benefits that can't be argued and many more points of reference when considering the purchase.

[@tonybennett3904]

Love these discussions,thank you both.

[@dennisbalgobin461]

I am interested in acquiring an E-Bike in the near future but I will not be dropping a wad of cash on any type of bike because they need to come down in price. All bikes are now way overpriced since the pandemic when demand outstripped supply. However, the pandemic is over and prices need to come down significantly to attract more buyers. I don't see how these bicycle companies can demand motor cycle prices for bicycles.

[@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v]

Prices are all over the place not just because spec and demand. It's like the industry can't figure out what to do It's really sad because they new this was coming and they caused some of it. I think the next bike i'm getting a nice new analogue bike to go with my Ebike. Yes there is a future for premium Analogue bike just not ones with stupid profit margins. They should cost more they are premium bikes just not the degree many are.

[@crankshoptv]

If people keep buying them, they'll keep making them and people will keep buying regular bikes, because not everyone wants the added weight, complexity and expense of an electrical bicycle. I own a high end alloy trail bike so I'm biased.

[@ciprianciprian3252]

A well made and informative video. Thank you.

[@MBRmagazine]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

Bike manufacturers: raised the prices by 50% during covid. Now they moan because they have to go back to normal prices. Allright 😆

[@austinradtke2896]

Analog or acoustic mountain bike is such a cringey term that all the dentists seem to have made up when they bought their fancy e-bikes. Hardly anyone says acoustic guitar when they compare them to electric guitars. It's just guitar and electric guitar. It's usually the derivative that gets the new term.

[@youbikewithatube]

Half of a new acoustic or analog or Amish mtb is electric already with wireless shifting gps ect. It’s only a matter of time until the tech become so light as about two filled 24oz water bottles that it’s going to become a none issue. They also have created classes of eMTBs so I see the trail regs in the future allowing them more and more biased on the class of eMTB. This track slash is an early example of the trend I feel we will continue to see. I myself don’t mind since I’ve tried them and they are a hoot. Absolutely the happiest and friendlier people on the trail are the eMTBers I have seen banking berms on the climbs. And the most smug or just a little grumpy type of people are the ones sucking wind up the climbs which I can’t really blame them since they are working that hard. Just like vhs tapes I think the regular mtb as we know it will be a dinosaur here in future. I just done see this tech going away, just getting better and better.

[@MTNMAX88]

They are just mountain bikes. They aren’t analog. Analog is specific to electronics. They aren’t acoustic either. Acoustic is specific to sound. Please stop trying to make up a new name just because of e-bikes existence. They are just bikes.

[@MBRmagazine]

We didn’t make the name up, it just seems to be the least grating of all the options.

[@MTNMAX88]

@@MBRmagazine “mountain bike” is a good option. Then for the electric bikes, they can be called, “electric mountain bikes.”

[@stonewp]

High end mountain bikes will still be around when the e-bike fad slows down.

[@JEAdventures]

Amish bikes

[@MTNMAX88]

@@JEAdventures bikes

[@wallyedmonds8199]

Normal bikes will not die .

[@thim8009]

Here in the USA, places are limited where we can ride emtb. I think if the US would realize that emtbs aren't motorcycles we wouldn't see the sales so high of analog bikes.

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Most of the MTB KZbin channels are ALL EMTB now

[@alexbiketester]

Im the original.... Alan needs an ebike because he creaks... not the bike...

[@harveycasey1900]

And what's wrong with that?

[@trailblazeratv6306]

@@harveycasey1900 we can’t ride them on the trails here in Idaho unless you’re on motorcycle trail and Jeep trails. No mountain bike or hiking trails.

[@kostello2011]

Because 10% will buy high end analog bike, other will buy ebike.

[@MBRmagazine]

Hang on, we covered three topics, and only one of those touched on e-bikes 🤷‍♂️

[@NelsonSherry]

Ebikes are fun, but alas, my passion is pedaling.

[@vlbz]

Any chance for a head2head2head with Maxxis (as the benchmark it is), Michelin and the new 'radial' Schwalbe?

[@finroddd]

Now we know how all Santa Cruzes gonna look like.

[@TheDirrtydog]

its the other way around! Specialized copies SC on the regular. LOL

[@mybadvideos]

A high-end bike without a motor is always going to be lighter than a high-end bike with a motor am I wrong?

[@gweflj]

The motor isn't really the issue, it's the battery tech. They simply don't have enough energy density so they end up being massive and weighing 3-4kg. Add 4kg to your downtube on your bike and you'll need a larger chassis suspension fork, more powerful/heavier brakes, thicker casing tires etc. There needs to be a revolution in battery tech IMO. Same applies to cars.

[@Rustyfox46]

The day that manufacturers stop producing the original mountain bike - will be a very sad day. I have no intention to follow the ebike crowd. I'm still more than happy to ride my 2020 Trek Ex8 👊🏻

[@1xbikes]

I think that maybe, you are looking at the question of pricing, from the wrong perspective. In my opinion, discerning buyers, choose the type bike they will find most useful. If black is downhill, and white is cross country. Then everything else in the middle, are just shades of grey. Having chosen which shade of grey sir/madam prefers (or indeed black or white), the next choice is specification. Or, how much does the buyer want to spend just now. I believe, that the decision to buy an e-bike, is separate. The first time buyer, may be persuaded to buy an e-bike. Though, considering a base model hardtail is well over €1000, this may be tricky. Experienced mountain bikers, are more likely to buy an e-bike, as a second bike. Example, we all have our main bikes, the ones we use daily (hopefully). Then, those of us who have a second bike. Will have something more specialised. Like an e-bike, or a dirt jumper, downhill rig etcetera. However, it would be very interesting, to see an interview with a bike company employee. An interview, where the purchasing history of the last few years is discussed.

[@thegram9207]

I would certainly ride one BUT at a fraction of the price . A miniscule fraction. 90% discount sounds about right.

[@greggoldman893]

Brunson Looks like it’’ll take a motor real nicely!

[@fuellerr]

High-end analog bikes will be rare going into the future

[@damianwinn6086]

Sold Bronson last year and bought Levo SL, no regrets

[@michaelmann3636]

I own three great analog bikes already, but maybe when Pinion is perfected and comes to America and is affordable 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@briannyob7799]

I won't be buying any more mountain bikes if the current trend of longer and longer keeps going. The length of mountain bikes is getting ridiculous. Combine that with electronic drivetrains, and I'll be keeping my current bike until it is no longer serviceable.

[@MBRmagazine]

I think sizing has maxed out. Now the focus is more on adjustability and choice, so you can choose between two or three sizes rather than just one.

[@GilCasinillo]

Is it just me or does anybody reading this comment find the terms analog and acoustic somewhat hilarious and at the same time inapropriate? Just my thoughts.😅

[@Timtheranger]

so, humanity has taken the most efficient mode of transport ever designed by man and made it a conspicuous consumption machine that has a working life of less than 5 years, make it make sense

[@harveycasey1900]

Buying a bike for $10,000 or more without a motor on it. Please make that make sense.

[@my_dear_friend_]

The vast majority of humanity cannot afford bikes like that. And most of those who can use them to play with and not for transliteration. It will remain the efficient mode of transportation it was.

[@Timtheranger]

@@harveycasey1900 well that's the industry being daft, some road bikes are nearly £20k and scott even released a hardtail mtb for £14k, but at least they'll last longer than 5 years before becoming obsolete

[@cupidstunt1975]

Don’t like it don’t buy it.Simple.

[@MBRmagazine]

There are still plenty of simple bicycles for sale out there. They haven’t disappeared.

[@jamesw1791]

It just goes to show how much markup they have in these ridiculous prices. You can buy a full-on dirt bike for what you're paying for a pedal bike. The prices are not what they should B. As far as tires go, all of the tires are overpriced.

[@noelbodle8863]

I think most people are riding bikes that are just way too heavy and are massively over biked for the majority of the riding they do. So they end up suffering much more than they should and that is then there reasoning to get something with an engine. Myself I much prefer the feel of a light weight 120mm down country bike that does everything extremely well and I have never felt the need to have something with a motor, not yet at least. E-bikes in my opinion have become a different sport to regular mountain biking / cycling and much closer to legal off road motor bikes. It’s not for me, though I do see the appeal for the less fit or experienced rider out there. Or for someone who does not get chance to ride often, but then that is a huge amount of money to be sitting in the garage most of the year. But I do hope most companies do keep a decent range of bikes for all disciplines of riding. As for now I much prefer riding a proper bicycle under my own power.

[@MBRmagazine]

A good xc/down-country bike is a joy to ride these days 👍

[@schenker1993]

At this point the winning combo seems to be one of the new “freeride” rigs that brands are recently coming out with and a eeb of your choice. Unless you like XC…

[@rouxenophobe]

LOL "freeride", where does that fit in the XC-trail-enduro-downcountry-down hill pantheon?!

[@ianhong4811]

I guess it could face same direction as hardtail bikes. Who will spend that much money on a hardtail bike anymore?

[@ftrujillomunizaga]

I would pay 5k for a bike with the same specs as it's e-equivalent. There is no downside for a regular bike for me, much simpler and cheaper on the long run (3-4 years).

[@glpf5]

Just built up a Rascal V2 for more than many Ebike; I'm in my late 50s and have no intention of going Ebike anytime soon so yes, I'll spend big$$ on analog bikes. Are you talking about complete $$analog bikes or just high $$ analog framesets and $$$ parts?

[@nellyx1x493]

As soon as most riders are on motor assisted bikes then its not the same sport that took off 40years ago or so, and I won't classify the thing I've been doing since then as mtb... even though I'll keep doing it regardless. To my mind e-bike riders are riding motorbikes, most of them seen out are even dressed more like motocrossers.... different sport.

[@MBRmagazine]

Mountain bikers have been dressing like mx riders since forever!

[@nellyx1x493]

@@MBRmagazine Well, yeah.... but rolling around a trail centre at the height of summer wearing gear that we'd have previously been sweating buckets in at sub zero mid winter, is definitely a new thing... and the biggest tell of the comparative effort involved.

[@YavorM-Yash]

​@@nellyx1x493 you sound like you've never seen a mtb jersey.

[@buffshields4037]

Analog and acoustic both sound dickish , it's been called a mountain bike forevee ,no need to change it

[@stevenh766]

Didn't realize I was subb'd to an e-bike channel. People who enjoy riding a bike and not a scooter is the answer to who will be buying non-ebikes.

[@harveycasey1900]

But the question is, would you buy one for $10.000+🤔 If that's a yes, then it better have a moto on it🤨

[@stevenh766]

@@harveycasey1900 I have a $10,000 bike. It does not have a motor on it. I plan to buy another before next season (down country to complement my trail bike). It will also not have a motor on it.

[@schenker1993]

Nerd

[@10tenman10]

I commute to work. I bought a mild e bike and am very happy with it. I think that $3,000 to $4,000 is the sweet spot for a high quality bike. Am not doing steep mountain trails.

[@10tenman10]

Don't need fork shocks, carbon, alloy. Don't need adjustable seats. Don't need super high end brakes. I own a Specialized but am looking at a lesser name brand given the excessive prices from Trek, Specialized.

[@wholeteam089]

Get ready MTB dinosaurs.....the E-MTB asteroid is on its waaaaaaaay

[@dadventuretv2538]

That’s the funniest, but also the most accurate, description ever.

[@cjmooreftwtx2000]

E bikes are great for people that aren’t physically able to pedal a bike. Not only physically handicapped people, but also people that have lower levels of fitness and that want to still ride a bike.

[@wgnwheels333]

Yeh I'm nearly 65 was starting to find some climbs to hard I have a rail 7 love it but also a normal hardtail that I use alot to keep fitness up

[@sedohrj87]

I bought an e MTB and im very fit, I didn't get a MTB for exercise I got it for fun and an e bike seemed like a lot more fun.

[@nipshardaf]

I’m 31 but ride emtb because mountain bike trail is 35 min driving or 35 min uphill biking distance for me. With loading unloading the bike to the car, biking there is faster for me. Can I ride there with a normal bike? Yea but maybe it will take an hour and I’ll be pretty exhausted by the time I get there.

[@markianross]

Or people who just want to fit more riding into the same amount of time

[@blakekennard7700]

I’m sure plenty of people still will

[@ChefIan73]

Analog devices still require electricity. A more apt name would be acoustic or Amish 🤔

[@SandraRobinson-l8u]

Beatty Cove

[@scollyutube]

The main point is you don't need to be fit to ride ebikes.....anyone can have cash, but you can't buy fitness. Just make the batteries generic so you don't have to throw your bike away every 3 years!

[@pedrolahoz]

My next bike is a racing road bike😂

[@Photoshopuzr]

The truth is the nonsence needs to stop, non ebikes should be half the price 2500 usd period, add the motor and it makes more sense to cost 5000. The really crazy part about all of this, the same people that believe that spending 10000 on a ebike when the time comes and stuff normalize that same 10000 would be 5000 and the same non ebikes would be around the 2500 -3000 for a bike you will feel really dumb. Stop encouraging nonsense for no real reason. ill see you guys at the end of the line when these bikes get dirt cheap. not going to be wasting on this nonsence. I been in this MTB game for far to long. Its better to build your ebike than to buy it, one of the biggest games these bike makers are doing to people are limiting the moto by not making them upgradeable which in my option is a bloody scam slash scalping mentality. Somebody will solve this problem and when they do they deserve to take all the other makers out of business.

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

There will always be a market for high end mountain bikes regardless of how many pedal assist motorized mountain bikes are released. There is a huge market and many riders who want the best mountain bike they can ride and want no part of motorization.

[@chaosflower4892]

there'll always be a market for 26 in wheels.. erm.. hang on...

[@drewsmith6066]

A good E bike is way too expensive

[@ladyjedi3D]

Yes, facebook marketplace is full on no. Ebokes for sale.

[@is2good4u]

There are bicycles (human powered) and then there’s everything else.

[@vault-boydan4984]

Too many people are too lazy to pedal uphill these days and want the easy way out without suffering so they choose ebikes, God forbid if legs burn a bit or they feel uncomfortable or in pain when pedaling, I find that pathetic tbh 🙄😒.

[@SteveKimbo]

Whisper it... NOT EVERYBODY WANTS A F*KING FITNESS SIMULATOR!!!

[@friederz2346]

Conventional ***

[@lonniecross4698]

Haha, "analog". A new buzz word for a bicycle.

[@meltedcubetv9379]

I am. E bikes are not a perfect machine. E bikes are for people who can’t ride…

[@MBRmagazine]

Hmm, we’ve seen plenty of people who can definitely ride more than ok aboard them.

[@Bondirob2000]

Would be nice to engage in Mtb media without having e-bikes shoved down my throat at every turn. I get that MBR are paid by sponsors and the bike industry wants us all on e-bikes. I’ll happily get one when my body gives out and I can’t pedal up hills anymore.

[@MBRmagazine]

To address a couple of specific points, if you’re referring to this specific video, only one topic out of three involved e-bikes. All our sponsored videos are marked as such and we try to make sure that we balance commercial videos with editorial videos, such as the bike tests, which are 100% impartial and very expensive and time consuming to produce. We try to balance the amount of regular and e-bike content, and if you visit the home page you’ll see the last three bike reviews are all regular bikes. We’re only a team of three people (with a few contributors) so pleasing everyone all the time is an impossible task. Now that we don’t have a print magazine, all of our content is also absolutely free for everyone.

[@SnideArt]

I just want to get fitter, improve yourself not your equipment

[@nervozzzza]

FFS analog bike? ANALOG!?

[@MBRmagazine]

We didn’t come up with it. Feels slightly less grating than acoustic.

[@ark530abe]

Beginning of the end is such an absurd statement more like beginning of an end to these overpriced bikes. No one unless you can get an industry discount is buying these top spec bikes.

[@sdtrailrider8070]

Ebike! Midpowered.

[@ellerybice3787]

E-vil peds are evil, no matter the $.00 price. Man powered bikes races are where the women flock to.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Maybe you guys are getting old but I still like real bikes, stop saying analogue it's a bike and ebikes are eebs or electric mopeds whatever 😂

[@MBRmagazine]

We are old! 😂

[@SuperSlant]

Analogue Bikes? What kind of absurd term is this? You should at least google the meanings of the terms. Some idiot confused the terms "electric" with "electronic" and "electronic" with "digital", after which he called a non-electric bicycle "analog", and you picked up on this nonsense. You didn't study physics at school and don’t know the definitions of basic physics terms?

[@megane230f1]

not as bad as that acoustic bulshi- that was made up

[@rushntare]

Alright Karen 😂

[@SuperSlant]

@@rushntare Google the definition of the term "Karen"

[@stevenh766]

@@SuperSlant I think the word they're looking for is "bike". It's called a bike.

[@SuperSlant]

@@megane230f1 That's right, I heard that too. I just forgot

[@richdavenport7751]

Overpriced

[@sety409]

My main hobby is weightlifting, ebikes keep biking fun. An hour climb sounds boring AF. All these Mfs making comments are always subpar men anyways. I have fun. You have opinions.

[@gweflj]

Bikes still seem popular in North America and other countries with actual mountains. I think the large scale of eBike adoption in the UK says more about the average Brit than anything. You know, "I only use eco mode, I still get a good workout' types. I did a 60k industry ride at CWX and there was maybe 3 mopeds out of 100 riders...

[@MBRmagazine]

Be interesting to see how many will be on next year’s ride.

[@gweflj]

@@MBRmagazine Are eBikes not good enough now then? 😉

[@MBRmagazine]

Brands generally change their tune once they have one in the range! 😉

[@danielmateusz9293]

full pover all the way

[@EMTB17]

Sidewall puncture protection is going to be greatly reduced when you do radio construction. That’s why nobody’s done it before.

[@RoninMon2012]

Analog bike?

[@max-eb9vi]

Ill still be buying high end non e bikes as i ride with honor. You can buy uphill speed but you can't buy skills and the fitness required to pull off said skills🥷

[@ark530abe]

Beginning of the end is such an absurd statement more like beginning of an end to these overpriced bikes. No one unless you can get an industry discount is buying these top spec bikes.