IS THERE DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY BETWEEN 2022 LEXUS LX 600 AND TOYOTA 4RUNNER? RESULT IS SURPRISING!

[@enriquecarrillo3909]

Nice job David, we love our 2022 Tahara plant manufactured GX 460. Keep up the good work. I have my concerns with these V8 twin turbo replacements….

[@joejohnson4698]

Super idea to do your engineering quality audit side by side between the two “standards.” Thanks as always, David.

[@little123456788]

I believe that even though that 4.0L 1GR-FE will feel like a dog compared to the LX 600's fancy twin-turbo V6, it will ultimately last much longer. Normally aspirated>forced induction when it comes to durability.

[@WheelsRCool]

Maybe, but modern forced induction engines are built from the start to handle the addition of the turbo.

[@GTEagle205]

@@WheelsRCoolsee

[@Tonydasoria]

Hi David. When are you going to test the build / manufacturing quality between a 4 runner limited vs a Lexus GX premium. That would be great 👍

[@oscargarcia5498]

The paint thickness difference is because of the tri-coated paint on the White Pearl Lexus. Blizzard Pearl, Wind Chill Pearl, Ruby Flare Pearl, and Moon Dust for Toyota are the ones that are "thicker" which are denoted as "special color" charges on spec sheets. 1G3 or Magnetic Gray Metallic isn't one of the special colors.

[@Pepcfreak]

My lunar rock is on average 157 when averaging all panels. I know this because I have OCD and we were hit and the body shop matched the microns very well. The orange peel on the other hand is a big oof on almost all 4 runners. It doesn't bother me that much but with machines painting and dipping these cars you would think it would be pretty damn smooth.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Hi David, I saw a Chevy Tracker this morning, when will you feature one on your channel?

[@travelsouthafrica5048]

I remember that in South Africa years ago a certain car dealer refused to take vehicles produced on Mondays and fridays , because he believed the build quality would be lower on those days for obvious reasons

[@joshharrison1160]

where was that filmed? beautiful street

[@johnpaul5438]

David is the king of toyota and lexus. love its.

[@maneekaray7391]

Great video David!! Thanks!

[@ejshelby5460]

Wondering if the sheet metal thickness different?

[@RovexHD]

What’s so hard about getting the gaps flush ?

[@MechayaAlta]

Do panel gaps and paint thickness translate to drivetrain quality? I know Tesla suffers in this area, yet consumers love its drivetrain.

[@frankpalomera8920]

Speaking of quality have you heard how toyota is addressing the hv mgr cable issue on the rav4 hybrid? Would it be advice to apply die electric grease to it as a temporary preventive measure?

[@jzfz6871]

When you get a chance measure pearl white against pearl white. We know pearl white is a premium paint which I suspect is one extra layer of paint.

[@stephanlevesque7632]

That white has at least 3 layers so I am not surprised it is thicker. One of the reasons pearl white usually has an up charge

[@BLR653]

2012 4Runner trail w 96k going strong here. Best vehicle I have ever owned. Looking forward to the 2024 GX!

[@brotherLee340]

Yea I got a 2010 4 runner. 137k at the moment and still runs great.

[@shinjiro212]

He kept saying $65k for the 4Runner and I had to keep reminding myself that this was the inflated price. I got my ORP in 2020 at MSRP 42k. Those days are long gone. Had a 2017 RX350 for 3 years and when I bought it I immediately noticed how heavy the doors were, felt way heavier than my wife's 2016 Pilot. Is the paint thickness something that is consistent across all Lexus products? How about for Toyota? Have you been able to compare the quality of a 4Runner vs a Toyota built in the US?

[@jimmyamico4713]

Hi David! Great video as always…I ❤️ the Lexus LX 600; however, I don’t think it’s worth the price I’m so glad I have my 2021 LX 570 which was $40,000 less… I also was wondering because I haven’t heard from you from the GX 460 video; if the last year with a 4.6 L V-8 engine is going to be 2022 or 2023 please let me know what you think because that is going to be my next purchase thank you so much for your talent and passion to your craft as always you are the best of the best of the best thank you David… Respectfully, Jimmy USAF 🇺🇸✈️🙏💜✝️😇👍🇨🇮🇨🇦🇯🇵

[@AutomotivePress]

So sorry for the delay in replying to your other comment Jimmy! I just returned from Europe so it's been busy... anyhow, I believe that the 2023 model year will be the last year for the current Gen GX. The new one should arrive late next year as a 2024 model year.

[@jimmyamico4713]

Hi David I truly apologize; I didn’t mean to be so impatient; it’s just that I enjoy your videos so much… I share them with many friends and wanted to get back to them as soon as possible…again please accept my deepest apologies… I will tell you David you never need to to explain your situation but I understand more and more that you are extremely busy and I I just feel bad bottom line is you are the best of the best of the best and I consider you a very good friend and one of the most brilliant people that I know thank you for everything you do and again I truly am sorry for being a pain in the neck… I consider you a brother… And Kurt my stepbrother… Lol Respectfully Submitted, Jimmy USAF🇺🇸✈️🇨🇮🇯🇵🇨🇦🙏💜✝️👍😇

[@roguegoldza8305]

Hi, please can you do a quality check on GWM or Cherry SUV's. They are selling very well in my country.

[@aaddam1133]

Nice analysis as usual.

[@garylu1062]

Nice video David. Really love to learn the different plants of Toyota in Japan. We love our GX460 Tahara plant build. What about FJ Cruiser? Which plant build that one? It’s a great truck but not just me, so many people in my FB group have roof leak issue, turns out it’s the panel welding issues. Love my FJ too, just curious about what plant build that

[@JC-xc8rx]

Not Tahara

[@erickisel8668]

@AutomotivePress: The LX has three stage paint due to pearl coat. Isn’t the extra thickness due to the second clearcoat?

[@terp8373]

Would love to see comparison between the Lexus and comparable Mercedes, BMW, etc. : )

[@NikolaiHT]

Please do 4Runner vs gx next

[@jkelly9845]

4 runner limited are 65k?

[@ESGsoccer]

My man is in Canada so Canadian dollars.

[@g.fortin3228]

Thats my only complaint with the 4Runner the paint could be a bit thicker.. I can change out cheesy loudspeakers but paint is a different issue. I will be ceramic coating for some protection..and wax over that. I am pleased with the alignment though mine looks very straight too. It's an ORP not a Limited. Nice video and insight as always !

[@tombrodzinski157]

Good high level comparison David. Having owned 4Runner LTD and recently traded it in for the LX600 Premium I agree with both your points re paint and panel gaps. I think LX is a relative deal - in Canada I paid 107K for it which has all the same off-road features as the 4Runner TRD pro which is almost 70K. 35-40K difference is well justified - LX is superior on the hwy, matches the off-road capability and has slightly better mpg compared to the 4Runner. There is also the exclusivity factor.

[@WheelsRCool]

The LX 600 is the Lexus variant of the Land Cruiser, which is a different vehicle than the 4Runner, so that is also why the price is higher.

[@michaelbuerhaus8409]

Interesting comparison. There have been continuous debates over quality between Japan vs NA vehicles of the same models. (i.e. Rav4, RX, ES, and Corolla). It would be interesting for you to have a series of videos showing the the likenesses & difference of the same models with different manufacturing locations. Thank you.

[@Pepcfreak]

I have had a 2019 Camry SE and now have a 2022 TRD. I can tell you that both have gap issues all over. Not only panels but lights and weather stripping. The interior noise in my 2019 was unbearable and part of the reason I traded it in. The part the rattled was the left grey plastic left of steering wheel. Nothing I did fixed it other than lunching it 😜. That didn't make it better just made me feel better. The 2022 TRD also has vibration in the dash right up by the windshield. A piece of paper wedged under fixed that. I have a friend who is stationed in Japan and that car is much better made than mine. My hood on driver's side I can fit my pinky and the other side is good. Not to mention the hood is also higher towards the windshield.

[@WheelsRCool]

@@Pepcfreak What TRD vehicle do you have? A pickup?

[@Pepcfreak]

@@WheelsRCool was talking about my TRD Camry. But I also have a 2022 TRD Sport 4 runner but that has not gap issues

[@fly.into.theblue]

Thank you for honest content

[@MrWbjones22]

What about the land cruiser and the sequoia vs the ls model they are the closest uou will ever get

[@RealCarlosJr]

Great video- as always! Any updates on the new Lexus GX?

[@MegaAbright]

You should rewiew the quality of fullsize SUVs

[@joeythedime1838]

I don't believe the paint thickness is a measure of the paints quality applied by the different production plants. It is a measure of the color and the stages that color needs. For example: Toyota Super White 040 is a single stage paint, Magnetic Gray 1G3 is a two stage paint and Blizzard Pearl White 070 is a three stage paint. Single-stage method: the acrylic base color and hardening/gloss components are combined into a single mixture that does not require a clear coat; the process requires two to three coatings of the single-stage paint mixture. Two-stage method: this requires two to three coats of base color plus another two to three coats of clear coat paint. Three-stage method: two to three coats each of (1) base color standard paint, (2) a translucent "medium" paint that carries the suspended pearlescent pigments, and (3) clear coat paint The Blizzard Pearl color requires the three-stage method as the translucent paint coatings help create a more distinct "pearl-like" appearance. The three-stage method is more expensive due to the additional materials, labor, and processing time. I would bet that a Blizzard Pearl White 4Runner Limited would have the same paint thickness as the Blizzard Pearl White LX600 that you have in this video.

[@mikewright2858]

I read that the Super White is formulated this way to keep the white pure - the refraction caused by clear-coat layers tends to somewhat alter the brilliant white's appearance.

[@timhardman4764]

Interesting information - I hope David checks out the Bliz. Pearl on a 4runner to see how it compares.

[@billg8270]

Don’t matter how you compare them. Toyota/Lexus number 1 .

[@ronaldbishop9873]

Great topic

[@mjv1967]

4Runner is high quality, it is just that the interior materials are extremely cheap hard plastics. It needs stronger primer and paints on the frame too. A Toyota Venza for 5 years ago has a beautiful interior for a similar price as a 4Runner.

[@tylerwest3820]

Who’s paying $65k for a limited 4runner. Is he in Canada ?

[@AutomotivePress]

Yes I live in Canada

[@ShinobiTekken]

Lexus Turbos will break down b4 200k miles

[@little123456788]

@@flight2k5 That same engine in the new Tundra is already breaking down before even reaching 300 miles in some cases. Simple physics tells is that when you put a relatively small engine in a big heavy vehicle like this and increase pressure and stress, the internals, seals and gaskets will wear out faster. So his prediction is not far off.

[@coltonmarshburn1828]

I know the LX’s towing capacity is better than than the 4Runner so the 4Runner can improve on towing

[@imranabbasi7871]

Toyota 4runner

[@catsaretasty]

New Sequoia vs New lx600

[@apollomedia7210]

Hey David, I have a 2022 XLE RAV4 magnetic gray. I realized when I wipe it a little hard it leaves spot. Seems like toyota is going cheap on paint. It did not used to be like this. My old toyota has better paint.

[@davidhouston7812]

Paint isn't cheap. Especially if it's coming for Kentucky

[@noctilucent7396]

They use mag gray on their land cruisers, you must be doing something wrong

[@noctilucent7396]

@@jamesp6283 my mag paints been through a lot in my 2015, I wax and take care of it though. So it's pretty immaculate, user error

[@apollomedia7210]

@@noctilucent7396 I only hand wash and wax it every 6 months

[@apollomedia7210]

@@noctilucent7396 it is not about mag gray it it about its quality.

[@Andres0603]

My previous lexus gx paint was garbage compared to my new 4runner

[@Andres0603]

@@jamesp6283 I had a 21 gx it was the worst paint I ever had