Muc Off Faces Backlash Over ‘Disgusting' Advert & THAT £340 GCN Kit - The Wild Ones Podcast Ep.33

[@Cade_Media]

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[@tony5269]

@Cade_Media I’d day no to the GCN kit don’t need GCN detailing my Wallet

[@wagonmoundno.2396]

As a man who's initial impressions were "why be offended over this" over the Muc Off ad, Producer Emily's explanation linking it to womens discomfort in male dominated spaces is really interesting and eye opening - something that I think is very valuable for men in all areas of life (not just cycling) to understand. Very well put.

[@milesizdead]

Yes, this. I was going to come here and say that Emily’s comment should be shared in various forums that have nothing to do with cycling. She describes the phenomenon perfectly. This comment coming from a youth worker, where inclusion and non-toxic communication is crucial. Well done Emily, huge props.

[@bugsygoo]

Her speech was quite powerful.

[@petermyers4409]

I thought the same. Thanks Emily for laying it out so clearly.

[@Hmmmppffff]

Very agreeable 😅

[@simonlynch4204]

Absolutely. Impeccably explained and with added link between seemingly unrelated issues... I wish I could high five her IRL. Awesome woman.

[@anniewang3065]

Thank you, Producer Emily, for speaking about your experience as a woman in the world and in cycling spaces. Hyper-sexualizing situations may seem harmless enough here and there but it all adds up and before you know it, you're going through a nontrivial amount of your day on guard and nervous. And if it's not just some random person on the corner doing it, but a global brand, that effect is magnified.

[@od1koneod171]

Emily's breakdown of how perpetuating outdated, creepy content affects those who are vulnerable to the worst of the male experience is honest, erudite, judgement free. Wonderful and important perspective Emily, thanks!

[@Fimobe89]

Came for the GCN bashing, heard an inspiring disussion about women in cycling instead. This is a great channel!

[@rossfishy]

Emily, you did an amazing job there. Great explanation of why life for women can just be tougher.

[@tonyg3091]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@garrywallah4966]

Try being an attractive black man like myself now that is tough, I go to the supermarket or a restaurant and have almost every woman eyeing me off settle down ladies Garry is happily married.

[@bejo-108]

@@tonyg3091 grow up

[@LordTechnopants]

As an old fart in his 50's, I think the very lucid explanation of why Muc Off's ad is not a good thing (incredibly relevant input from Emily) was spot on. She Clearly set out why this perpetuates or at least contributes to a culture where women can feel unsafe. That's why it isn't enough to say 'it's a joke'. Men need to wake up. As decent blokes, we shouldn't want women to ever have to feel the way she describes (so eloquently).

[@saysthetedd]

‘It’s lazy, it’s weak, its vulgar, be more intelligent” 100%, well said. All that ad did for me is want to put my money into the hands of mature brands, like Silca.

[@Liryc19]

I really appreciate Emily sharing her experience !

[@michaelclark3860]

I wasn’t even the entire way through listening to Emily and I knew I needed to comment. What a wonderfully intelligent and coherent presentation of the issues facing women in typically masculine settings. A joy to listen to!

[@petertreadway]

Genuinely incredible monologue by Emily on why women don’t feel safe and while she says she doesn’t speak for all women, it’s sad to think she likely speaks for the majority! As the father of a young, active daughter, it both scares and angers me in equal measure what kind of world she will be growing up in. The response from the majority of well meaning men of *shrugs ‘we’re not all like that’ isn’t good enough and unless we actively get on board to call out and eliminate the sort of behaviour that Emily sadly experienced in Richmond Park, our mothers, sisters, daughters and granddaughters are destined to experience the same. Anyway, just my tuppence ha’penny worth but well said that woman. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@redkeyspoke]

Hi Peter, greatly enjoy your channel and this comment of yours!

[@petertreadway]

@@redkeyspoke Thanks Nathan, I really appreciate that.

[@catshoemike]

I have run lots with my daughter over the years, mainly on the hills and quiet back lanes that lead from our house to the off-road. She then moved to our nearest city - Chester - and going running with her there, on roads, I was genuinely absolutely shocked by the amount of cars slowing down and leery comments (presumably before the shouter realised that the person running in front of my daughter was a bloke) And then she tells me that it is just absolutely routine

[@michaelclark3860]

Well said sir! Change will only occur when we all acknowledge the need for it to do so!

[@Pseudynom]

25 % of women experience sexual assault or attempted sexual assault in their lifetime (UK statistic). 97 % of women in the UK experience sexual harassment in their life. The numbers in other western countries like Germany, USA, etc. aren't really better. The problem is that a good amount of guys only start reflecting their douchy behavior until they have a daughter ... because they know how men treat women from themselves. I personally don't think I've sexually harassed anyone, but I've definitely been unaware about women's issues until I started dating my first girlfriend (now wife). I've never felt unsafe walking through the city at night. But that's not the experience my wife always had. So I think it's also our responsibility to call out creepy and douchy behavior of other men.

[@MW-ud8zp]

I'm really glad Emily could share her story and opinion on the Muc-Off ad.

[@bobkerman670]

As a man I appricated the speech given by producer Emily and no one interrupting her, wish this sort of stuff would be talked about more widely to be able to bring in more diverse group of riders.

[@bradallen8643]

Yes, I agree. By filming the guys paying attention to what Emily was saying was good editing 👍. No doubt that was due to Producer Emily’s skill and wisdom in demonstrating what all men should be doing in this space - pay attention to what women are saying and feeling, call out bad behaviour in men and respect all women.

[@pphaneuf]

Emily is spot on, about the Muc-off thing, it marks the space as unwelcoming to a number of people. I might not be a woman, but I'm queer, and I know all too well that in the sort of space where that kind of jokes are made, homophobic ones closely follow...

[@unkebunktebusal9023]

I am male, 194cm/85kg (6″4/13st5), three-day beard, broad shoulders for a cyclist (44cm handlebars). From time to time, when a car approaches from behind, it honks wildly, and the male passengers open the windows, shout at me and drive on. The first time this happened, I was scared and stopped to check my bike, thinking it was a warning that something was wrong with it! But the bike was fine! I couldn't explain what that meant. When I spoke to my daughter about it once, she said: 'You're wearing a man's bun, and a ponytail on the bike because of the helmet. If you make yourself so small on the bike with your shoulders tucked in and they can see the ponytail, they think you're a woman. It's called "cat calling". It happens to me all the time, and sometimes it makes me uncomfortable when a man walks behind me on the sidewalk, even if he's not doing anything like that.' My daughter was 14 at that time.

[@bowlst12]

Nick is a brilliant addition to this podcast. So knowledgeable being someone properly intertwined in the cycling customer.

[@gregoryspowell]

i genuinely appreciated Emily's thoughtful explanation and contextualization of the muc off situation. well done!

[@SB-ds3fm]

Emily's monologue was very thoughtful and articulate. Also, best round of overrated / underrated in a while!

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Last summer I was with my 13 yrs old son on a cycling path and a woman came to us asking if we could pretend we're with her, I looked over my shoulder and I saw that creepy bearded dude in jeans following us, she said he was right behind her for like half an hour, I told my son to go on with her and turned around, the friggin maggot turned back and flew the f away... Fkin creeps

[@RufusAstra]

Thank you Emily.

[@kpizzle1985]

Nick is making the assumption that your local bike shop is good. Before I did my own bike builds I once paid my LBS to build up a frame I got as a crash replacement. They never bled the brakes properly, I took it back a few months later when I completely lost the front brake, they kicked off when i queried why I needed to pay for their corrective work.

[@soundninja99]

I went in to get my gears re-indexed at my lbs since it came as a lifetime service with the bikes. They somehow managed to move both shifters and adjust brake lever position because "it was off". I spent more time redialing my position than I would've just re-indexing myself. For that level of service, I'd rather just take my direct to consumer discount, fix my bike myself then go in with more specific instruction of what not to do if I'm having any larger problems.

[@paulobrutus]

So much respect for the space you all have created and the way she gave an explanation to how women feel in certain situations and their experiences. 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 thank you for the awareness you have created and I love the content you guys bring every time. Mad respect 🫡 ❤

[@josephb7128]

Thank you for your excellent discourse Emily! While I started the podcast for F and J, I am so happy that you’re contributing more and more. It’s always valuable.I love the podcast. Cycling needs to be welcoming and safe for everyone.

[@kipcc3918]

Pro Mechanic Nick is a man of reason is definitely what I’m here for. 🤣🤣

[@philipp-christopherdeeke2210]

Nick is a great addition to this podcast. Please more 😀

[@paulwendon-blixrud8397]

Emily, extremely well said, I think the channel would benefit from including you more. To move towards equality in life we need more of these voices and these discussions.

[@leightondavies8884]

I work in the bike industry here in the UK and eagerly await your pod cast every week - never fails to impress me with the content and common sense , interesting and relevant content - you nail it week in week out 👊👊👊👊

[@kalaalefaio5108]

👏🏽 Father of a daughter here. Well said Emily!!! Also it's so refreshing that she was able to have her say without interruptions.

[@mrpokeit]

You guys are all fab. You clearly love cycling and care about others. You're careful not to abuse your viewers trust and inform/entertain for free to a high level. Not sure how anyone could take that badly to be honest.

[@fitzt70]

Had not seen the Muc-off ad until featured here. I found it amusing at first but quickly felt a bit over done in a gross way. Wouldn’t have given it much thought but Emily’s explanation of the way it brought up the creepy encounters with men cyclists made me reconsider. Imagine being a woman washing her bike and some dude walks up and makes a preference to Muc-off. Would not want ti risk that.

[@out_spocken]

Are we seriously relating gross ads to bad behaviour? A gay male could take some of this ad being directed at him. Some of it is about self gratification. It's not directed specifically at females. It's gross on linking sexual stuff to cleaning a bike. It's that simple. Huge stretch to suggest it enables or encourages bad behaviour.

[@danielsotelo3942]

I was inside the bike industry for a very long time, and not a fan of pod casts. But you are very interesting and very pleasant to watch and listen too. So I'm now a fan as you cover so many things in the bike industry. Thank You.

[@thewattlife]

Well said Emily, this is fantastic. 20:00 Everything you say here IS IMPORTANT. I wish i had the space to share some stories but i believe we can all do better to create a more wholesome cycling landscape.

[@nigelwilkinson-xg9us]

Thank you Emily, you’re helping to educate us all. Great work

[@JSC131]

Best cycling podcast especially when Nic is on wouldn't miss it keep the videos coming .

[@Unktiontofunktion726]

💯

[@jtmuso]

As someone who is to some degree ‘woke’ I find explanations from producer Emily, as a woman in a predominantly male industry, mega important. It’s too often men arguing why stuff like this is JuSt A JoOoKeE! Without taking time to think about it or asking people with a different view why it’s insensitive. Massive respect for tackling this subject head-on 🤘

[@SpicyTrifongo]

you got big "I don't like when gay people kiss in movies" energy but from the opposite direction.

[@jtmuso]

@@SpicyTrifongo lol what?!

[@SpicyTrifongo]

@@jtmuso you didnt like the ad. That's OK. But how is it OK to go and accuse muc off of being sexist or create a hostile environment for women?,

[@jtmuso]

@@SpicyTrifongo the ad comes across as crass to me. On top of that they’re promoting a product to solve a problem which doesn’t exist. People can form their own opinions and some of those are that the ad is sexist. This is freedom of speech and expression. Muc-off have the right to make an ad and people have the right to form an opinion. I think it’s crass and has the air of being made by teenage boys, as well as promoting a product which is not necessary.

[@stevenss8070]

As a bike Shop owner, I would be happy if more people need my help. As a customer, I wouldn’t go to a shop with such an elitist mindset. If I’m willing to pay the price , but you don’t want to repair it, I’ll go to another shop with nice people.

[@habanerooperations8432]

Same. However (we’re an all female shop) we still experience inappropriate words and behavior.

[@StephanieLuff]

21:50 Emily is SPOT ON!!

[@richb8709]

Appreciate Emily’s comments on Muc Off and anything else she contributes. Even though my interest in all things cycling has waned recently, your conversations are always worth watching. Keep up the great work!

[@WintergardenPL]

I bought a Canyon full sus and I had another popular brand road bike. I went to service my mtb where I bought my road bike. The owner said that they will service it but last time. I said ok and took my bikes to other bike service. Now I have two canyon bikes and a new friend in that other bike shop. Good luck.

[@MtKrybnik13]

I don't understand this point of view. Basically if you are not living in capital city of your country, there will always be a brand, that is nor offered by your local bike shop. So they refused to make money on the service, cause you've didn't bought the bike from them? Idiots... Place where I'm servicing my two Canyons Lux CFR and Ultimate CFR is my local Cannondale shop(plus few smaller brands). I'm riding bikes for around 20 years, and I've never owned a Cannondale, and they where dealing with my S-Works, Giants, Scotts, and even Santa Cruz.

[@petermyers4409]

I'm not really on board with the idea that if you don't buy your bike from the local bike shop you can't expect to take it there to fix things. I bought one of my bikes 15 years ago and the other one second hand. When I go to the bike shop i pay for repairs and parts. I don't buy my car from the local mechanic either.

[@DS-um9hi]

Especially if your local bike shop doesn't stock the brand you want.

[@virtualmartijn]

@@DS-um9hibut if you then buy a bike at a shop that does stock that brand, why not use them for servicing it as well? They will carry the brand specific spares or are able to order parts and handle warranty issues. The local bike shop will not.

[@DS-um9hi]

@@virtualmartijn plenty of reasons, distance to travel, the fact I know my LBS mechanics, the fact I would rather support local where I can... They are more than happy to supply me with spares and on the odd occasion I can't (be bothered) to carry out my own repairs to complete them as well. Also my LBS is more than just a shop, its a great meet up point that does decent coffee and the staff often organise rides. Of course everyone has different experiences.

[@PedroRodriguez-kg4bq]

My LBS only stocks major cycling brands = entry level alu bike £1300. No thanks.

[@out_spocken]

I'm all for it. Give your money to mobile or independent bike mechanics that will probably charge less, give a better service, and appreciate the money going to them instead of paying for people that are so a-moralistic they don't want your money.

[@billmontgomerie9526]

i love watching your shows , always fun and down to earth . Almost all the new bikes i have i have bought from the same shop except for one to help a friend get his leg up in the business at a shop he was working at , all the rest is same shop and the why is the after market service !!!!! they have always given me great deals and even when the bikes warranty has expired in many cases have done the work or given me a great deal , my other bikes i have picked up other time they service like their own. I have had some bad experiences with other stores and simply not delt with them again. support your local shops !!!! They are the ones that support your local kids teams and up and coming riders. Great shows keep them coming

[@jhoff80]

As someone whose tinnitus gets worse with age, I've been very conscious lately about how loud wind noise can be. I admit being a little curious about these newer aerodynamic helmets that partially cover the ear because I wonder if they can help with that.

[@stewieDM]

You could find it makes it worse. In the motorbike world helmet caused wind noise is a big problem, and the reason most motorbike riders wear earplugs.

[@Omar411269]

@@stewieDM agree so much. I already had tinnitus from being dumb as a kid but riding my Aprilia without earplugs is so uncomfortable.

[@paulridgers4676]

I used to have "cat ears" for cycling. They make you look like you stole Elvis' sideburns but they cut a lot of wind noise out.

[@TheUnfairytale]

Thank you Emily, this episode is a must watch for your monologue, I'll be sharing it far and wide.

[@aur_gnd]

Quick personal story about the direct to consumer brand. Last year, I wanted to upgrade my bike. With a few years of experience with previous bikes, I new that I was looking for something specific: shorter reach than most race road bikes (back issues), shorter crank length (knee issues), with a bike that could hold a big cassette for my big mountainous rides. So I made a big Google Sheets table to try to calculate bike geometries and check which could potentially fit. I went to the 5 big bike shops in my city. Only one could have a proper discussion about bike geometry (my favourite bike shop!), but unfortunately didn't sell something that fitted me. One (the Giant shop) even complained that I did a pre-bike fit to have more precise geometry requirements for my bike. None of them would let me try the bikes for a few kilometres to check the feeling I had on them. I think that bike shops need to understand that they have to become wise and sound adviser for potential buyers and not just Sales people casually selling bike stuff. On the other hand, I'm always mad at people that I see buying bikes after falling into marketing traps, or getting advices from bike shops just to make their minds about an online purchase. And at those who want to see bike shops doing things for free all the time. Servicing a bike costs time, and a lot of money. But the market prices are so high and the hype so huge about many tech gimmicks that unfortunately entry bike cost is one of the biggest factor for purchase decisions. On my side, I found a shop in another city that sold a bike assembled in my hometown and they were able to send it to me. I then changed and assembled all the remaining custom parts I wanted thanks with my local bike shop. I think that's the best of both world.

[@lybern]

I just want to say that you guys are amazing:) This podcast and the entire Cade Media channel is one of my most favoured channels on KZbin. I truly appreciate you guys, keep up the good work! :)

[@jimmilner4169]

Well done Emily, your explanation of the issue which is much much wider than muc off or indeed cycling was brilliant. Cycling has an issue which it would be interesting to explore on your podcast. I think the discussion about how good the product is was largely irrelevant as jimmy and nick said for another product, poc was it? buy or don’t buy. The problem with women not feeling safe is something all us men should be more concerned about

[@lazzaboyman8003]

Interestingly GCN have made a few videos recently about how expensive bikes have become and that they are planning on testing more ‘affordable’ bikes then they release frankly ridiculously priced kit!

[@BramStoked-uq4hp]

I agree that it seems expensive but so what? It doesn’t make GCN hypocrites.

[@AdamOHalloran]

Well done Emily, you demonstrated great courage in sharing your story, even though this is obviously something has a lingering affect.

[@romenorom]

Another great podcast. The three of you are a great group.

[@Ron_Boy]

The revelation with the Muck Off ad is the immaturity of their all-male marketing staff.

[@SpicyTrifongo]

Right you think it's immature and that's fine but how is it sexist? All I saw were disembodied gloves that looked somewhat mannish, does the extended ad have some sexy lady in a muc off bikini staring at the camera like Paris in a Carls Jr ad?

[@Ron_Boy]

@@SpicyTrifongo I didn't say it was sexist. I said it was all-male, agreeing with Emily. This sort of innuendo is typical of immature men. I don't see it with women.

[@SpicyTrifongo]

@@Ron_Boy watch last week's Saturday Night Live or a couple stand up comedy specials from women comics. Men do not have a monopoly on making sexualized jokes. Lisa Lampanelli made a whole career out of it.

[@cincydooley]

Boo. Hoo.

[@larisonjohnson]

5 years ago, GCN was the first place I checked for bike related content. But, IMO, they are no longer relatable for at least half of their content. It’s too bad really, but that makes room for more meaningful content, like yours! Keep up the good work. Maybe if we stop talking them, they will get the hint.

[@cherriagana]

Will we ever have a wild ones without a GCN discussion in the future xD

[@mcdvtt]

Well shit Emily, ain’t that the truth of so many women’s experiences. Thanks for putting that out there in such a coherent and sensible way. More women in all spaces with those spaces feeling safer.

[@serafinaproductions8752]

Absolutely on point, Emily. 👏 24:42

[@darthvegan3823]

Fantastic explanation Emily!

[@rolffuchs2737]

A good coffee is never overrated but it depends on what you define as a good coffee. I tried a lot of small roasters and they all can`t keep up with the Italian roasters that I prefer, but they are much more pricier (sometimes more than double). We use to buy things for a higher price when we think it must be special. By the way it is sometimes the same thing with so called boutique bikes.

[@jawaraoconnor]

And this episode is why Emily is the GOAT of the cycling podcast world. She's Balanced and represents woman in a very honest way in a very male dominated industry. Jimmy and Francis are lucky to have her. I love your reviews and honestly agree with 99% of everything you all day, bike mechanics and all. I have to say...in life, I'm very happy about discovering your podcast. I've never met any of your but I'm super glad to know you all exist. I feel like you are all friends of mine, that I've met to meet. I hope to connect with you all, one day... please continue to keep pushing the envelope....and keep the women and their voices heard. I'm really excited for you all. congrats on your awesome show.

[@NordicUrs]

Emily’s insights regarding the muc-off ad alone is the reason why I really like this channel. You guys outperform pretty much any other bike related channel, in particular GCN (which I actually unfollowed some time ago). Chapeau

[@Milquetoast702]

Emily’s Muc Off explanation is spot on and I am not easily offended

[@swordmonkey6635]

About women feeling threatened all the time: I heard a female comedian say something along the lines of "Imagine walking around people that are physically stronger and bigger than you are and imagine they might be attracted to you. Could you stop them if they really wanted to do something? No."

[@gedheaton1415]

As a 63 yrs old cancer patient who now has some complications due to radiotherapy damage,I started cycling a while back.a short while back,I've now had to stop due to an impending operation but my point is, even though I'm was a very new pss poor cyclist who has retired !!,(from cycling) bar Zwift in the future,I love this channel, Very well done guys and gals keep it coming.

[@Cycling-through-cancer]

Stage 4 Cancer club member here too. I’m with you mate .

[@BrotherMichigan]

Maybe I've missed this in the past, but I'd love a segment on everyone's favorite cost-effective kit brands or even specific items.

[@zgSH4DOW]

GCN for bikes is like Donut Media for cars-- loud, goofy entertainment for the lowest common denominator None of them would need expensive kit, and those who do wouldn't be caught dead seen with it

[@JHA854]

Well said Emily!

[@petermyers4409]

I guess you won't read this Jimmy but I really enjoy what you bring to the podcast. Don't bother about the trolls.

[@colinricketts1415]

GCN have had kit made for their filming that's then made available for purchase - I wouldn't buy it (wouldn't have a clue what size to fit a middle age person that is a distance from 'race weight'!) but don't see what the problem is adding it to their shop. No one has to buy it. If I had £200 for some shorts I'd want to go to a shop to see them before. Fair play to anyone that can afford them though.

[@biking261]

Well said Emily

[@mikeODVentures]

Jimmy, I would say this to in person as well. You're awesome! Thanks guys for the podcast

[@amserj]

Thanks, Emily, for sharing your perspective, even though you knew you were opening yourself up to (possibly harsh and vitriolic) criticism from people who don’t share your perspective. I agree that this is a lazy ad campaign, typical of much SM advertising. Unfortunately, as we’ve learned in the US, even negative engagement is good for a lot of brands (see for example, US political ads). Regarding the issue of women’s experience in cycling, my bike club has a very robust women’s program. Women are tired of hearing “cycling is just dudes, get over it” and are creating spaces for themselves, where they can gain skills and make friends, and also migrate more confidently into male-dominated areas of the sport. But we’ll still have to hear the occasional ‘you’re a good cyclist-for a girl!” 😂

[@kibbee890]

As a Canadian, I find that buying online from Europe is often the only way to get stuff. A lot of items just aren't sold here at all, even American brands, and a lot of stuff is way overpriced. I think that a lot of the blame goes on manufacturers who don't make their products available in certain markets for reasonable prices. There's no reason that something should cost twice a much to buy locally as it does to buy it online, shipped across an ocean.

[@jean-francoisbourdon4789]

From 20:45 to 25:12 - you guys need to make a standalone video with this and share it massively.

[@SkylarsRnD]

I really didn't enjoy this channel in general bc I thought you all were a bit annoying, but I gave it a chance and love your views on life and not trying to make people feel uncomfortable. It has become my favorite cycling channel and I have learned so much from all the presenters on Cade Media. Keep up the good work!!!

[@newttella1043]

I like this podcast way better without that other guy 😂.

[@SkylarsRnD]

@@newttella1043 hahahaha!!!

[@SpicyTrifongo]

you saying you didn't enjoy this channel has made me uncomfortable.

[@123oner2]

Hearing Emily's talk about wider issues regarding the Muc-Off advert is extremely insightful. Thank you so much for talking about this, it's hugely appreciated

[@theroadsnearyou...5088]

I didn’t know anything about ‘the advert’ until this video popped up randomly in my KZbin feed and it appears you’re part of problem pushing this advert & the ensuing feeding frenzy! If you’ve managed to get this far in my comment before ranting, you might be interested to know I also thought the advert was crap, but not for the reasons of the panel’s agenderised opinion, if people are going to be this triggered by an advert, how are you going to cope in a real crisis? Btw, I love reading all the AI generated ‘part on the back’ comments, they’re getting so easy to spot now! (Alan Turing would be impressed!🤪) I look forward to reading some more below after this….

[@styven77]

Well said Emily.

[@DaveMullenJnr]

Brilliant insight from Emily! 🔥

[@alickmanning9133]

Hi guys, love the show, you’ve helped change my opinion on what’s necessary and what’s overrated as a beginner cyclist, saving me money in the process so thank you so much. Can we see in the future both Nick and Francis on the podcast, I know the intention is just to have 3 of you but Nick has the tech knowledge and Francis has the practical/race knowledge and together they’d provide a great perspective. Once again love the podcast, keep it up!

[@tristanocristofoli9848]

Hey Chris and Jessie, love the show. With regards to Jeffs video about narrow bars. You didn't mention the second half of the video. The aero wasn't the point but the tucked in position allowed Jeff to attack/sprint more easily. I personally ride 38cm bars but that was always from a confort stand point.

[@ladk387]

As a bike mechanic of 23 years and a current shop owner, I always find myself agreeing with Nick. You can always tell someone that’s been in the business long enough to see through the marketing and think for themselves. Kudos.

[@TH4TGUYGREG]

Emily thank you for sharing that story, I would hope that people would stick up for others in the same situation. It was also nice to can see Jimmy contemplating if he could get away with a murder in the middle of Richmond park!

[@jamieburkett358]

Your point about there are good and bad bike shops is spot on. Do not mind paying a little more at a good LBS. Issue is in my experience there are more bad ones out there. In times like these when the industry is struggling, hoping customers remember who the good ones are and support them.

[@billhulley]

Glad it's not just me that thought Strada Bianca tyres are the hardest to get on. Good thing that they last for ages and are easy to plug. Wouldn't want to be wrestling with them by the side of a trail in the rain. And yes, I used them with Silca sealant 😏

[@nathanpedley4696]

They are such a nightmare. They answered my email on the show, I now feel slightly embarrassed at how happy I was when I heard my name... add in the Silca sealant and wow. Nearly broke me. I did it though. 4 of em...💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@rodfuchs6932]

Jimmy I will say this to your face. I LOOK FORWARD TO LISTENING TO THIS ON KZbin or WHEN I DRIVE TO WORK!!!!! I said it and I don't regret it. Thank you for what you folks do.

[@jimreppinb14]

35:58 in that case I recommend you get some head wax, it's not shiny enough.

[@SME_Ste]

This podcast is absolutely brilliant.

[@jedisdad2265]

One chooses to either be offended or to ignore that which one deems Offensive. Ignoring it and “turning the other cheek” robs those who might seek to offend of their power over you.

[@paopixel]

Since the Alex Crankgate, people have been bashing on GCN every week. AGU charges €180 for the same unbranded jersey on their site

[@eloyanzola]

Really appreciate Emily’s explaining the issue with the ad and how it relates to inclusivity, and safety. Very clearly and eloquently put. Thanks so much!

[@StevenNassibian]

Great video. Thanks for sharing Emily.

[@matthewgarland6542]

Great listen, will try some more episodes 😊❤

[@catherinebroshears2384]

Emily-👏👏👏👏 you are speaking truth to everyday experiences for women. Words, images, branding-- it all matters.

[@chrismadge7292]

If you have a some basic mechanical knowledge and basic tools, you can fix most things on a bike. That is why I buy from the likes of Wiggle. However I still support my local bike shop by buying bits and pieces from them.

[@ConnorFrench]

Well said Emily 👏👏👏

[@MrGaryPeace]

Emily! As a father of daughters, who works in advertising and branding, you are spot on.

[@chrishophoto]

More of Emily please! I started out thinking, “what’s the big deal?” Then Emily shared her very simple experience that I am sure is not at all uncommon, and I thought, yeah, she is completely right! Her perspective is so important, and she isn’t just a producer on your show to interject from time to time. Cheers’

[@DarynRod]

A LITTLE over reaction I feel. But its dumb. The low hanging fruit on the idea board for the ad agency. It should have stayed on the idea board but in the "pass" column.

[@8rk]

I haven't been to other places in Spain yet but last year I had a chance to visit Girona. I fell in love immediately. I would say the "scene" is actually much bigger than I've seen anywhere else. Or maybe I should say much more concentrated. Never seen so many great cafes and bike shops in such a small area. I live in San Francisco Bay Area so it's not uncommon for me to run into hundreds of cyclists on a 4 hour bike ride but Girona is so small that you step out the door and immediately see dozens of super high end bikes roll by. So if you're a casual cyclist who cringe at that performance focused road cyclist it really might be a turn off. I personally really love looking at high end gear and training 12 hours and in that sense I LOVE that Girona has a high concentration of that kind of mindset. I really, REALLY would love to move there and we're seriously trying to make it happen.

[@avocette]

Nic's mindset about being principled yet flexible is golden ❤❤

[@DanMehlig]

Will the helmets lower wind noise? Maybe a win for bone conduction headphones

[@freemdog9728]

I wouldn't say it in person but I love all 3 of you ❤ Great podcast - thanks.

[@RicardoRocha-lg1xo]

I've loved POC helmets ever since the Octal came out. As a brand they seem to prioritize safety over other selling points (aero, weight). It's the only brand of helmet I've used for many years now.