Is this new Renault 5 the small EV market saviour?

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@S4MM7ify 3 ай бұрын

This is one of those cars that makes you think “I want one”. Love it

@ScenicLoverr 3 ай бұрын

yess😂

@Whatshisname346 3 ай бұрын

I’m really looking forward to this car. Finally a genuinely appealing electric small car. Well done Renault.

@didierpuzenat7280 3 ай бұрын

1:19 Just as a reminder, there are *no* rare earth materials in EV batteries. There are only a little rare earth materials is some kind of electric motor, but as in hybrid cars. And yes, indeed, Renault uses induction motors rather than permanent magnets motors in its cars (R5 E Tech, Megane E Tech, Scenic E Tech, etc.), so no rare earth materials at all for Renault.

@kezman82a 3 ай бұрын

What are you smoking?

@brunodahli2481 3 ай бұрын

@@kezman82a What are you drinking!?

@IngVasiu 25 күн бұрын

Such a beautiful car.

@huwprice881 3 ай бұрын

Driving a lot of new Renault atm, and they've all been really nicely designed, built and judged in terms of performance and usability. This looks fabulous, maybe Citroën will make a new AX?

@realfist1 3 ай бұрын

Hi Will, Nice road test, good to see a lower price EV on the market. Will are you related to a Tony Dron that I used to read in the old Motor magazine in the 70s ? I do see a resemblance…

@justinbennitt835 3 ай бұрын

Hopefully it'll be better and sell more units than the Honda E. I've probably only seen 3 or 4 of those on the road since they were launched, after such acclaim from the motor journalists... in concept form anyway.

@rusty911s2 3 ай бұрын

Yes, concept was soooo cool and they bottled it on the production car. Low range, high price ensured Honda E rarity. Hold their value incredibly though.

@ScenicLoverr 3 ай бұрын

yes

@timaustin2000 3 ай бұрын

Honda's head honchos had no intention of making it a success or they'd have sold it under £30k, which they could have done. They priced it to fail.

@Bow-to-the-absurd 3 ай бұрын

Honda e was a massive failure. Way too much money for far too small a battery. Looked amazing.

@timaustin2000 3 ай бұрын

"No Rare Earth Metals" opined like a true journalist who has little understanding of what it means. Rare Earth Metals are not actually rare. They're fairly abundant, as it happens. "Rare" is a description of the PROPERTIES of the material, not their availability. Rare, in this usage, = "Special". It's in no way remarkable that there are no Rare Earth materials in the motors Renault use. Its just as true as dozens of others: it just depends on the type of motor you want to use.

@brunodahli2481 3 ай бұрын

Moteurs à induction ou moteurs à aimants permanents

@matbowden9156 3 ай бұрын

A bit more info about it's "first in class" V2G capabilities would have been nice 🤦

@Yormsane 3 ай бұрын

I would love to see this come to America! Build it at a Nissan plant here in the US, fit the long-range battery, keep the spec simple, and Renault would have a winner.

3 ай бұрын

New Micra is going to be built on the same platform and will be 5’s sister car, so it might come to the US

@Yormsane 3 ай бұрын

Interesting info, I suspect there'll be a US-specific model with a different name than Micra, but I'll be keeping my ear to the ground.

@ricbrook7059 9 күн бұрын

Nissan and Renault's relationship is currently set to " it's difficult"...

@SWR112 3 ай бұрын

If they bring in the larger pack one with toys under £30k MINI are in trouble and that’s from someone who has had five, two currently on the drive factory ordered in a Hatch and Clubman both getting swapped out next probably not any MINI. would this replace the Hatch that goes on road trips, tell you what for the looks I’d give it a good go. The MINI SE I think will be the better drivers Car but starts at £35k without the sports pack and level 3 that can take it to £43k but who really pays sticker price these days. Absolutely love the look of it, never owned a Renault but been following the R5 development and can’t wait to see one on the road.

@danielcliment8251 3 ай бұрын

Can't wait to see this awesome car in Australia at triple the price....

@didierpuzenat7280 3 ай бұрын

5:42 The "try before you buy" is a good advice for seats, not for range. Indeed range is just part of the equation for long trips, with a good charging curve, with a good embedded software to plan the trip and pre-heat the battery, with plug and charge enabled, etc. So what I would advice is to test the trips you plan to do with a site as A Better Route Planer (ABRP), but in a few months for ABRP to have accurate data. Or try another KZbin channel with people crossing Europe with the car, not just a press promenade. Knowing Renault's recent EVs (Megane and Scenic) I guess the results will be quite good but it does not mean it works for you personal needs.

@ScenicLoverr 3 ай бұрын

yes

@fluxcapacitor 3 ай бұрын

1. Why use a third-party app like ABRP when there's already Google's navigation with route planner built in the R5 infotainment system? 2. Third-party apps have no access hence do not trigger battery preconditioning. Only the built-in route planning does.

@didierpuzenat7280 3 ай бұрын

@@fluxcapacitor You miss the point, I said to use ABRP *before* buying, to test several cars on all the trips you plan to do.

@fluxcapacitor 3 ай бұрын

@@didierpuzenat7280 Ok! Indeed I missed your point. Thanks for the added precision

@bristolfashion4421 3 ай бұрын

Irrelevant how good it is, as the tw4t ar$e freeholders of my modern apartment block won't let us install ev charging points in our dedicated car parking - inspite of the fact that the original build spec. included a communal share car, powered by - you guessed it - electric! You can't make this cr4p up!!!

@oliverlondon5246 3 ай бұрын

WHEN IS IT FINALLY COMING???

@sargfowler9603 3 ай бұрын

The 52kwh battery model appears to have around 176miles range in good weather on A/B roads. In winter on a motorway with 10% - 80% charging, the range is going to be truly appalling. However, I presume this is just a town/second car?

@roberthardy3090 3 ай бұрын

I have a 52kW Zoe, The poorest mileage I have achieved on a very hilly route was 178 miles with 14% remaining, The return route on much better roads left me with 21% after 183 miles. The R5 will be more efficient with better aerodynamics so its Summer mileage will likely be closer to the 250 claimed so long as you stay within the speed limit on the motorway.

@roberthardy3090 3 ай бұрын

My subzero range is greater than 150 miles although recent UK weather rarely tests the car in that regard.

@Brian-om2hh 3 ай бұрын

Seemingly there are around 8000 expressions of interest in the UK already....

@miguelmelchior986 3 ай бұрын

Really like it!

@jancsikus 3 ай бұрын

It is!

@dancinglizard6034 3 ай бұрын

This is one of the few evs i want

@danniepushkin5849 3 ай бұрын

I was surprised how quiet it is inside

@rusty911s2 3 ай бұрын

How can the original R5 be fifty years old! I learnt in one. Loving the new one.

@MOSSFEEN 3 ай бұрын

Original Renault 5 launched 28/01/1972 and the Entry level R5 had 782cc

@Brian-om2hh 3 ай бұрын

You didn't. You *learned* in one......

@chrismurison-m8f 3 ай бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh I think learnt is perfectly correct, unless you're american where learned is more usual (unless you mean he is a learned person)

@willswomble7274 3 ай бұрын

Can they 'nail' it to be reliable?

@vernhill-wv7pp 3 ай бұрын

Nail in the battery pack won't help reliability but might keep you warm.

@ricbrook7059 9 күн бұрын

Well here's a man that's knows sod all about driving! Not that I'm surprised from the Sunday Times...

@glideman 3 ай бұрын

Love cars like this that are retro cool, I bought an Ioniq 5 Namsan. Also love ultra modern like the CyberTruck but it’s the cars in between that are just plain dull and boring like the VW group cars and Audis that are just plain boring. People seem to want more exiting looks these days.

@NigelRudyard 3 ай бұрын

It looks incredibly smart, purposeful and functional. We had the original one in the 70s, so it also brings back some memories.... fantastic, no-nonsense review.

@stephenlee5929 3 ай бұрын

I missed the price.

@MalcolmRose-l3b 3 ай бұрын

£23K in the UK for the basic model.

@cburg 3 ай бұрын

Glad to see a multi-milion pound newspaper uploading in 720p potato quality.

@didierpuzenat7280 3 ай бұрын

Better for the environment 😇.

@harry7384 3 ай бұрын

@@didierpuzenat7280 ahah

@vernhill-wv7pp 3 ай бұрын

I won't watch unless it's 1080p broccoli!

@justinbennitt835 3 ай бұрын

Honest question: are there any current model EVs where Apple Carplay and Android Auto aren't fitted as standard?

@MrBerlinPark 3 ай бұрын

Any Tesla

@driesdebackere5233 3 ай бұрын

I never ever use it

@didierpuzenat7280 3 ай бұрын

Having Apple Carplay and Android Auto is not better than having a very good OS in the car, it is just a backup when the OS in the car is bad. I guess you will not often use Apple Carplay or Android Auto in the R5 E Tech because Android Automotive OS is very good. Same with Teslas.

@drfisheye 3 ай бұрын

General Motor cars don't get Apple Carplay and Android Auto anymore. And their own system isn't that great either.

@Brian-om2hh 3 ай бұрын

Yes..... There are some with only one of them fitted.

@jlzab6914 3 ай бұрын

Vous aimez ? C'est Français ! 🇫🇷 😊

@TeslaFuture-b2r 3 ай бұрын

Can we please cut out the drama? There is nothing wrong with the EV market.

@WilliamLaverick-wo1nb 3 ай бұрын

Runnng on ECO should be the standard not the choice. If we are supposed to be saving the planet why is Sport mode an option?

@Acejustforalaugh 17 күн бұрын

Variety is the spice of life ✨️

@ken8178 3 ай бұрын

If this was in petrol or diesel they would sell way more cars. Then you have the second hand ev market. People are loosing so much money on ev,s.

@AlanTov 3 ай бұрын

Yaaaaaaawn.

@chrismurison-m8f 3 ай бұрын

so right, my recent 150 mile journey in an EV cost a massive £2.60 in electricity!

@Luke-PlanesTrainsDogsnCars 3 ай бұрын

The best thing that legacy car makes have over their Chinese opposition are heritage shapes and well known logos....However to call this a Renault 5 is something of a stretch.

@markthomasson5077 3 ай бұрын

Yeh, actually a bit of a mess

@global_nomad. 3 ай бұрын

they're doing it a lot better than ford...(scenic SUV aside) at least the link is evident,

@gileshalliwell3591 3 ай бұрын

It’s a great re interpretation.. Way better than the awful, unreliable mini!

@roberthardy3090 3 ай бұрын

Given the average size of modern family cars, it seems to be a good approximation to the R5 of old, just under 4m in length, though of course it can't match the lack of passenger crash protection of the original!

@ram64man 3 ай бұрын

So the Zoe gets a refresh call, the r 5, I absolutely hate those seats it looks tacky beyond belief, and terrible headlights and still no default heatpump if the Zoe us anything to go by the 52kwh may push about 186 miles in sumner but stop to 175on average in winter

@timaustin2000 3 ай бұрын

I could get 230 in summer in my Zoe ZE50 with barely trying.

@ram64man 3 ай бұрын

@@timaustin2000 is that city range only, I was quoting motorway ranges that people prefer do they know minimum levels

@madmandonna1 3 ай бұрын

It does have a heat pump as standard (unless you get the absolute cheapest version, which isn't coming to the UK). I regularly get more than 200 miles in the Zoe in summer, and this weighs less and charges at twice the speed. So logic would suggest this will go slightly further and the heat pump will mean it's more reliable in winter. I'd say this ticks all the boxes and looks 100x better than the Zoe.

@lincoln537 Ай бұрын

720p video? Lol no thanks

@chasseur_d_occidentroll 3 ай бұрын

R COMMERINGARD

@arnebuchner1297 2 ай бұрын

Great looking car, but without an ICE it won't last. All car brands should know by now, that you have to develop new cars as ICE versions and (if you can't help it) as an EV. More choices = more sales.

@Jabber-ig3iw 3 ай бұрын

Needs a small fizzy 4 banger, not a washing machine motor🤮

@ComeJesusChrist 3 ай бұрын

Is it already so bad that a small Renault is supposed to be their false saviour?!

@Brian-om2hh 3 ай бұрын

False? There are already thousands of deposits placed by potential buyers. The EV market has been swamped with large and costly EV's for a while now, and smaller town and commuter EV's are what many have been waiting for. This Renault is but one. There are others coming from other manufacturers...

@roberthardy3090 3 ай бұрын

They sold a lot of Zoes and this will be much cheaper to build.

@ComeJesusChrist 3 ай бұрын

@@roberthardy3090 The Zoe was one of the very few models in a time when those who really would consider an EV would have been able and willing to pay the premium for it, have the charging ability (or willing to have fast charging installed) at home and it was all supported by the government. The honeymoon period is over. Since then, the market developed, government is scrapping the subsidies and tax incentives that poorer people were subsidising, shocking level of depreciation is recognised by the owners and many of them abandoned the idea of using an EV. Dealers don’t want to touch an EV as part exchange unless it’s for another, overpriced EV at higher interest rate and worse lease terms. The market for a small EV now is completely different than it was ten years ago. I used to drive a Zoe occasionally at work when they came out and I was considering buying one as a second or third car. I wouldn’t touch an electric car now.

@ComeJesusChrist 3 ай бұрын

@shockthemonkey7046 3 ай бұрын

Bidirectional charging so you can use it to power other things… fair enough - good idea but, Bidirectional charging so you can use it to help balance the grid… what are you smoking?

@roberthardy3090 3 ай бұрын

Potentially in the region of 500 Gigawatts of available battery capacity attatched to the grid through electric vehicle chargers in a decade or more. That is a lot of potential capacity smoothing if the effort is put into enabling the grid to use it. Dinorwig for contrast offers about 9 Gw.

@Yogi5D 3 ай бұрын

Sitting inside a battery car is like sitting inside a microwave! You are getting roasted the whole time you're in there!! Prove us wrong! Battery cars will go down as the biggest failure in automotive history. The answer is free energy solid state motor!