Is this peak TikTok? | The Vergecast

The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the Apple Vision Pro review rating, changes to the TikTok app, streaming news, and more.
Further reading:
Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not: www.theverge.com/24054862/app...
The Vision Pro is a computer for the age of walled gardens: www.theverge.com/24055677/app...
Apple’s Vision Pro battery pack is hiding the final boss of Lightning cables: www.theverge.com/2024/1/31/24...
Even without Netflix and KZbin, Apple’s Vision Pro has over 600 apps at launch: www.theverge.com/2024/2/1/240...
TikTok loses Taylor Swift, Drake, and other major Universal Music artists: www.theverge.com/2024/2/1/240...
UMG set to remove music from TikTok amid AI and payment concerns: www.theverge.com/2024/1/31/24...
TikTok test automatically identifies products in videos and offers purchase links: www.theverge.com/2024/1/30/24...
TikTok goes full KZbin: www.theverge.com/2024/1/29/24...
Hulu is cracking down on password sharing, just like Disney Plus and Netflix: www.theverge.com/2024/1/31/24...
The death of the Amazon deal could mean goodbye iRobot: www.theverge.com/2024/1/31/24...
Lawmakers propose anti-nonconsensual AI porn bill after Taylor Swift controversy: www.theverge.com/2024/1/30/24...
All the news from Congress’ Big Tech child safety hearing: www.theverge.com/2024/1/31/24...
Snap is recalling and refunding every drone it ever sold: www.theverge.com/2024/2/1/240...
TikTok’s CEO can’t catch a break from xenophobia in Congress: www.theverge.com/2024/1/31/24...
Your home’s internet connection could soon be called .internal: www.theverge.com/2024/1/30/24...
00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Nilay has a lot of feels about his Vision Pro review
32:24 - Taylor Swift enters the TikTok wars
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[@anthonycrook6452]

Bonus points for showing pictures of the things you are referencing!

[@tayjn]

Very disappointed Nilay isn’t wearing the Vision Pro for this episode

[@RiveTheRat]

Nilay should out-Joanna-Stern Joanna and wear it for the next 5 consecutive shows

[@lil_sebastian13]

Pretty sure they had to return the review units before they recorded this.

[@imdavidpierce]

@@RiveTheRat I support this plan, let's make it happen

[@dkerr200]

He should wear it for weeks with an empty battery.

[@MaxArthey]

We need a whole episode with everyone wearing a Vision Pro.

[@javiersp15]

Challenge to the vergecast: record an entire podcast on vision pro.

[@maxmouse3]

4:45 this was very funny because I think we're trying our best to be inside Nilay's mind hahahaha

[@wirelesstkd]

It has just occurred to me that "objectively" is the new "literally." It's a word that people use to mean the opposite of its dictionary definition, and, by doing so, have etymologically changed the definition so that the word is now an antonym of itself.

[@patrickbdavis00]

Cinnamon Toast Crunch Nilay and IP Law Nilay are my two favorite flavors of Nilay

[@imdavidpierce]

Imagine the combo, it would be unstoppable

[@GordonChaffin]

I would watch the heck out of a special vergecast where they discuss cereal law.@@imdavidpierce

[@moramento22]

Love David's emphasis on the fact the Vision Pro is 35 HUNDRED DOLLARS! 😆

[@imdavidpierce]

Recently I wake up in the middle of the night yelling THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS

[@tekphloyd]

One of the best Vergecasts! ❤😂

[@rocckyman729]

Alternate Title: Guilt Tripping Nilay for half an hour | The Vergecast

[@jbnelson]

I give this episode of The Vergecast a 7

[@sullivan4052]

shout out to scissor vodka in the vision pro video

[@azyrael96]

Comment for some engagement on one of my top 3 podcasts

[@qazsedcftgbhujmkolp4401]

What are the other two?

[@craiggmelville]

I have a challenge for Nilay and David. You should compare working in the Apple Vision Pro for one week then the following week swap and use Samsung DEX for a week and compare notes? Samsung DEX costs roughly start at $2500 if you use a fold.

that's a task force, baby

[@qazsedcftgbhujmkolp4401]

It should have been a 6 out of 10

[@humaidmustajab1745]

Best Vergecast yet!

[@Jdevil21]

You have to compare this to the iPad launch. They had no apps ppl didn’t know what to use it for. Now look at it

[@RonKJeffries]

Well said.

[@sullivan4052]

Imagine if meta microscoft google and samsung worked together on an MR platform

[@jonasking3670]

57:34 This just in: Alex pushed a new mother off of her Hulu account. Film at 11:00.

[@lesliewinter1905]

But now that we are getting the vision pro can't you show us the gallery and other fun things? Set up a platform for a party! 😂🎉

[@craiggmelville]

Here is a deep question, how many people in fashion can tell the time?

[@SrijanChakraborty]

I just realized that you literally cannot buy an apple vision pro if you do not own another face ID device (iphone or ipad)

[@MrUrsulvlad]

I think it’s unfair that David would want Nilay to rate Apple Vision Pro as a 6 and not 7, while David himself has rated the Meta Quest 3 a 7! Wouldn’t that mean that Apple Vision Pro is worse than Meta Quest 3? Even though Nilay keeps saying that this is the best version of this type of computer ever made?

[@imdavidpierce]

*Clears throat* It's THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. I dinged the Quest a whole point because the price went up $200!

[@b00tstrap]

nilay should use Dex while wearing the vision pro

[@willow2893]

for some reason i am now craving sugary cereal…

[@Jdevil21]

Omg you can reach over onto someone’s computer and press their track pad! …. Seriously

[@JackMediaComments]

6 out of 10

[@ChadBlanchard23]

I enjoyed the vid immensely, but I had no idea what was going on. I'm not sure it matters.

[@datatheandroid8973]

7 out of 10 😀

[@toadlguy]

It may be a developer kit, but as a developer kit the Vision Pro is a 10, however.

[@zacharyeversole]

I have no idea what he’s talking about when he says he’s calling the top on camera based pass through. In what world are tiny cameras, the best today they will ever be? This thing is the worst vision Apple will ever ship. They will only get better from here. That is how it has always gone. I don’t see why it would be any different now.

[@Jdevil21]

I think this is The problem with ppl like this doing review for main stream ppl. They just have no clue what blows the mind of the everyday person

[@Jdevil21]

You can’t review this product. Until the software is out. Just on launch day they dropped 600 more apps. Your laptop is nothing without the software you can use.

[@_sophies]

Also regarding the Vision Pro, and it drives me nuts nobody says this - the display, while impressively high-res, is not high-res enough to fully resolve a 4K display's worth of detail, even if the display is so big it takes up your entire FoV. Clearly, as Nilay said, it's good *enough* not to matter, but IMO it's a little scummy for Apple to call it a 4K display.

[@shashank1630]

It is enough to resolve more than 4k

[@howmanybeansmakefive]

any floptropican who witnessed the rise of the product wars been done knew about marketization of tiktok

[@pumpuppthevolume]

q3 has it ...spatial anchors ....and all headsets have in person people looking at the same virtual object with the right software .........what the hell r u talking about .....how can he be a bit into vr and so ignorant at the same time ...am I missing something and why is Adi not reviewing it did she leave

[@michaelkork3197]

Guys you are treating developers like they are a machine to make apps and have them available from day one. It takes time to get to know the new form factor and contemplate ideas. Get off your high horse.

[@sajizzle2680]

Guys no one really cares about your score

[@Jdevil21]

They just not pay the white guy much. $3500 bucks seems like 100k to him. Give this guy a raise.